PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 16, 2019, 11:03:23 AM
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Nothing about Trump’s tweets this week was racist, yet I see “racist” inserted forcibly into every mainstream headline about them.
My question: Who really registers this word anymore? I’m getting inoculated to the word. It literally means nothing to me now because it’s being applied to everything and nothing.
Are Dims realizing it’s being misapplied? We don’t have a racist President in any sense of the word. My stomach is in knots thinking about the low-info peeps who think we do.
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Not One Person accuser Donald Trump of racism until immediately after he decided to run against the one woman crime syndicate
It is all a fabrication pushed by liars, liberals and communists - - which is to say democrats.
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The Democrats can not run against Trump on his record, especially with the economy, which is the most important issue to most people. They must invent things. Russia didn't work and was revealed as a hoax. So, it is the accusations that Trump is racist.
First because he doesn't want to let ILLEGAL ALIENS in unabated, therefore he hates "Brown People". Now, he stands up to bully, fascist Democrats. Can't have that! He's racist!
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My question: Who really registers this word anymore? I’m getting inoculated to the word. It literally means nothing to me now because it’s being applied to everything and nothing.
This is so true. Not so long ago calling someone racist was about the worst thing you could say. The word was reserved for the most horrible, extreme behavior and was not used lightly. Calling someone sexist was similar.
Today, the word is used so freely it's lost all meaning. It's the default position. I have brown skin and you disagree with me therefore you're racist. It shuts down all argument and the other party has no defense. Far from defending the offending position, you're now defending that you're not a racist. Which is impossible.
Someone calls me a racist I immediately assume that that person is an idiot.
I predict that in the near future "racist" must be replaced as it's lost all effect. You disagree with me, therefore you're a pedophile. Whatever.
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Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
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Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
No, he told them to go back to where they came from because they are assholes. That they happen to have brown skin is irrelevant.
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This is so true. Not so long ago calling someone racist was about the worst thing you could say. The word was reserved for the most horrible, extreme behavior and was not used lightly. Calling someone sexist was similar.
Today, the word is used so freely it's lost all meaning. It's the default position. I have brown skin and you disagree with me therefore you're racist. It shuts down all argument and the other party has no defense. Far from defending the offending position, you're now defending that you're not a racist. Which is impossible.
Someone calls me a racist I immediately assume that that person is an idiot.
I predict that in the near future "racist" must be replaced as it's lost all effect. You disagree with me, therefore you're a pedophile. Whatever.
So true! Speaking of pedophile the exact same thing has happened with that word too. It used to be a grown adult fondling a small prepubescent child. Now a pedophile can be a 21 year old dating a 16 year old.
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No, he told them to go back to where they came from because they are assholes. That they happen to have brown skin is irrelevant.
^^^^This. THEY brought up race, and skin color, not Trump. He said nothing about it, yet the Media and Dems (same thing) call him the racist one.
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Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
That is utterly a LIE.
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At work the other day our die hard Dim called me a racist. I laughed and told him that means I won the discussion. Can't even remember what we were talking about...
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Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
Can you post the exact words the President used?
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Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
You are a fucking troll without a clue to keep you company in the barren wasteland of your mind.
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Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
He said no such thing! He told radical progressives to go back to whatever shithole country they came from and fix things there, then come back here and apply the fix to this country.
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He said no such thing! He told radical progressives to go back to whatever shithole country they came from and fix things there, then come back here and apply the fix to this country.
Here's the actual quote:
So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......
....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....
....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!
And here is how the perfesser interpreted it:
Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
See the difference? The perfesser is an absolute liar and suffers from TDS.
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“House passes resolution declaring Trump tweets racist.”
None of them are. All a person has to do is read them. Nothing about race AT ALL.
This why I started the thread, I guess the House can pass a resolution claiming any fiction they want.
Crazy.
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Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
How about telling them to go back where they came from because they are idiots who don’t understand how America works?
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How about telling them to go back where they came from because they are idiots who don’t understand how America works?
That's exactly what Trump said. He also said, go back, fix those countries, then COME BACK and tell us how to do it here! How is that racist at all? Nothing about skin color, nor ethnicity.
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To a liberal racist means you dared to think something you were not told to think.
How dare the president put America before the American hating attention whores?
The left has become a toxic sickness that destroys everything it touches and enriches the most disgusting people possible along the way.
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That is utterly a LIE.
Bullshit. He's claiming they aren't real Americans. Racist to the core. But it can't be wrong, because, er, ah... Trump!
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Bullshit. He's claiming they aren't real Americans. Racist to the core. But it can't be wrong, because, er, ah... Trump!
In full troll mode today huh?
Care to show us where he stated they aren't real americans?
This is why you have zero credibility, you come in the forum to troll it with outright lies, then when confronted you post more lies, then flee and hide.
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Bullshit. He's claiming they aren't real Americans. Racist to the core. But it can't be wrong, because, er, ah... Trump!
Yes, they're not responsible Americans philosophically due to their POLICITICS and POLICY positions, NOT skin color, race nor ethnicity. STOP LYING.
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Bullshit. He's claiming they aren't real Americans. Racist to the core. But it can't be wrong, because, er, ah... Trump!
American is a race now? Nice try.
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Bullshit. He's claiming they aren't real Americans. Racist to the core. But it can't be wrong, because, er, ah... Trump!
WARNING STEINGAR: You have exceeded your bullshit quotient for the millennium....
What a shame that you are so fucking blind that you actually claim to have a brain.
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A master of misdirection. I haven't heard anything about his taxes for a while and "RACIST!" is being diluted beyond all meaning. And now everyone can see very clearly who is against him in government, the media, and elsewhere. It's great having your enemies stand up and look like fools.
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A master of misdirection. I haven't heard anything about his taxes for a while and "RACIST!" is being diluted beyond all meaning. And now everyone can see very clearly who is against him in government, the media, and elsewhere. It's great having your enemies stand up and look like fools.
Exactly! Like when I live on a farm and had to eradicate raccoons infesting the out buildings. I’d take my lever action Marlin rifle out at night with a flashlight. Shine a light on them and they stand up in a “please shoot me in the belly” pose. So I did.
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Exactly! Like when I live on a farm and had to eradicate raccoons infesting the out buildings. I’d take my lever action Marlin rifle out at night with a flashlight. Shine a light on them and they stand up in a “please shoot me in the belly” pose. So I did.
LOL. That's what my Winchester Bolt action Model 69 .22LR is for. My Great Uncle gave it to me when I was 12. He bought it new in 1935 or so.
Now, I just use a Colt M4 to piss off the progressives. :)
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LOL. That's what my Winchester Bolt action Model 69 .22LR is for. My Great Uncle gave it to me when I was 12. He bought it new in 1935 or so.
Now, I just use a Colt M4 to piss off the progressives. :)
If every 12yr old had an Uncle like that we wouldn't have to worry about these idiots watering down the right to bear arms.
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Telling Americans to go back to where they came from because they have brown skin is utterly racist.
That would be racist, if that was the reason he told them that. But you know damn well that wasn't the reason.
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That would be racist, if that was the reason he told them that. But you know damn well that wasn't the reason.
Mikey can’t help himself. He has to perform exactly as he did. He is a troll and not free to think for himself, or generate original thoughts at any time.
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I now see that Trump is going to play into the identity politics to get himself reelected that got him elected. Makes sense too.
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I now see that Trump is going to play into the identity politics to get himself reelected that got him elected. Makes sense too.
You mean by putting a spotlight on AMERICA HATERS that push for more foreign illegals? Because that is the only "Identity" he's using, and a good one at that!
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I now see that Trump is going to play into the identity politics to get himself reelected that got him elected. Makes sense too.
Believe it or not white supremacy isn't what got him elected, if that's what you mean. If it is what you mean, he's not doing that anyway. Have you ever listened to his speeches? Have you seen what's happening to the black and hispanic unemployment rates? He is very inclusive of minorities as long as they're legal citizens. What you mean by "racist" is simply him not accepting illegal aliens. You are redefining being supportive of a legal immigration policy as being a white supremacist. That is ludicrous. Step out of your emotional hate for Trump for a minute and try to connect the logic dots.
Logic 101: Not wanting illegal aliens in the country does not equal racism if black and brown legal immigrants are accepted, which they are. Trump himself promotes streamlining the legal immigration process.
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Mikey is lying.
He is lying to us about The President and white supremacy because he’s too dumb to think for himself.
He’s lying to himself because it is his habitual state of being. He lies to his students, who think he’s the dumbest asshole on earth and he lies to God because he can’t stand the thought of a supreme being that is greater then mikey’s Opinion of mikey.
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How long before Apple Pie is declared racist? ::)
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And how long before you realize cries of "send them back!" are hateful and bigoted?
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How long before Apple Pie is declared racist? ::)
Well, Johnny Appleseed was white.
And he did plant them himself rather than demanding the government plant them.
And he used his own seeds instead of government seeds.
So, yes. He was probably racist (using the current definition), and it logically follows that Apple Pie is racist and should be banned.
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And how long before you realize cries of "send them back!" are hateful and bigoted?
It's not hateful and bigoted. It is similar to the "America love it or leave it sentiments" during the Vietnam War where mostly WHITE PEOPLE, often college students and ivory tower academics were bashing America as a colonial power and our soldiers as "baby killers". People didn't like that so said exactly what Trump is saying.
It is not about skin color, race, ethnicity, gender, nor sexual preference. Stop making it seem like it is as that is dishonest.
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And how long before you realize cries of "send them back!" are hateful and bigoted?
Why is it hateful for Trump to tell people that hate America that it is alright to leave what they hate. In liberal fantasy socialist countries, they have to put up walls to keep those people home.
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It is similar to the "America love it or leave it sentiments" during the Vietnam War...
A damn nice example of the politics of hate if ever I saw it. Not, "what do you find wrong and who can we together seek to fix it", but rather" if you don't like it lump it"! This is the sort of cry raised by those either deaf or immune to well intentioned constructive criticism.
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A damn nice example of the politics of hate if ever I saw it. Not, "what do you find wrong and who can we together seek to fix it", but rather" if you don't like it lump it"! This is the sort of cry raised by those either deaf or immune to well intentioned constructive criticism.
Why is it that when one side expresses hate for America,
And the other side says "If you hate it, then leave", then it is this side that is accused of hate, instead of the side that is actually expressing hate(for America)?
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A damn nice example of the politics of hate if ever I saw it. Not, "what do you find wrong and who can we together seek to fix it", but rather" if you don't like it lump it"! This is the sort of cry raised by those either deaf or immune to well intentioned constructive criticism.
What does "love it or leave it" have to do with HATE?
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What does "love it or leave it" have to do with HATE?
Not only that. How is that concept "Racist"? Which is the claim of many Leftists. So Mikey went from "racist" to "hate". Hmmm. Seems like the old bait and switch to me.
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Mikey doesn’t think.
Thinking is hard.
It’s easier to lie like the little bitch he is than think and come up with a truthful answer.
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The perfesser is a troll, and an ignorant one at that.
Just more proof that a piece of paper on a wall does not equal intelligence.
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A damn nice example of the politics of hate if ever I saw it. Not, "what do you find wrong and who can we together seek to fix it", but rather" if you don't like it lump it"! This is the sort of cry raised by those either deaf or immune to well intentioned constructive criticism.
I would consider "If you don't like it, leave" to be well-intentioned constructive criticism. We would all be better off if the left would offer useful suggestions and not just hate speech. Giving all my money to government is not a useful suggestion.
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When Obama was first elected, there were a bunch of black people on the news talking about how excited they were to vote for the first time. This wasn't young people, but people 40 years and up, and that they were excited to vote for a black person. How come nobody calls them racist for voting for a black person?
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Not only that. How is that concept "Racist"? Which is the claim of many Leftists. So Mikey went from "racist" to "hate". Hmmm. Seems like the old bait and switch to me.
Because he singled out people of color for his diatribe. Hence indicating that they aren't real Americans to start with. He's done this all along, skirting on the edge of racism without overtly stepping over, just so his little fanboys like you would have a reason to defend him.
The really sad thing is Reagan's America was a shining city on the hill, showing all the world the grace and superiority of America's values. This sort of hate based electioneering is anathema to previous Conservative thought and ideology. I might not have agreed with Conservatives about a lot, but I certainly respected them and their views. Not anymore. No this lot.
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Because he singled out people of color for his diatribe. Hence indicating that they aren't real Americans to start with. He's done this all along, skirting on the edge of racism without overtly stepping over, just so his little fanboys like you would have a reason to defend him.
The really sad thing is Reagan's America was a shining city on the hill, showing all the world the grace and superiority of America's values. This sort of hate based electioneering is anathema to previous Conservative thought and ideology. I might not have agreed with Conservatives about a lot, but I certainly respected them and their views. Not anymore. No this lot.
Bull fucking shit.
If “people of color” are inoculated from any and all criticism, including harsh criticism, because doing to is deemed to be racist, then the tyranny of the minority has already won the battle.
Of course that premise is bullshit, yet that’s the entire protective shield of the left, including you. It’s a cowardly way to live, and threatens freedom of speech that we all should have.
And when a leftist starts citing Reagan, then you know they are on their way to losing the war.
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My God you leftists and your racism. Here's something for you to chew on.
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell012919.php3
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Seventy-one years ago this month — in January 1948 — a black, 17-year-old high school dropout left home. The last grade he had completed was the 9th grade. He had no skills, little experience, and not a lot of maturity. Yet he was able to find jobs to support himself, to a far greater extent than someone similar can find jobs today.
I know because I was that black 17-year-old. And, decades later, I did research on economic conditions back then.
Back in 1948, the unemployment rate for 17-year-old black males was just under 10 percent, and no higher than the unemployment rate among white male 17-year-olds.
How could that be, when we have for decades gotten used to seeing unemployment rates for teenage males that have been some multiple of what it was then — and with black teenage unemployment often twice as high, or higher, than white teenage unemployment?
Many people automatically assume that racism explains the large difference in unemployment rates between black and white teenagers today. Was there no racism in 1948? No sane person who was alive in 1948 could believe that. Racism was worse — and of course there was no Civil Rights Act of 1964 then.
How then could there be this low unemployment rate, with virtually no racial difference? Racism is despicable. But that tells us nothing about what weight it has — compared to other factors — as a cause of particular social problems such as unemployment.
Perhaps the most widely condemned racism in the second half of the 20th century was that in South Africa under apartheid, when an openly racist government proclaimed white supremacy, and denied blacks basic human rights. Yet, even under such a regime, there were particular occupations in which black workers outnumbered white workers — even though it was illegal to hire any blacks at all in those particular occupations. Economics carried weight, even in South Africa under apartheid.
In the United States, what was unusual about 1948 was that, for all practical purposes, there was no minimum wage law in effect. There was a minimum wage law on the books. But it was passed in 1938, and a decade of high inflation had raised money wages, for even low-level jobs, above that minimum wage.
Among the effects of a minimum wage law, when it is effective, is that many unskilled and inexperienced workers are priced out of a job, when employers do not find them worth what the law specifies. Another effect of a minimum wage law is that it can lead to a chronic surplus of job applicants.
When an employer has 40 qualified applicants for 20 jobs, it costs the employer nothing to refuse to hire 10 qualified black applicants. But if he has no more than 20 qualified applicants, that is a different ball game.
The point here is that economic factors carry weight, and sometimes, under some conditions, those economic factors carry more weight than racism. Even in South Africa under apartheid.
In the United States, as the minimum wage rate specified in the law began to be raised, beginning in the 1950s, so as to catch up with inflation and then keep up with inflation, the minimum wage law became effective in practice once again — and a racial gap in unemployment rates opened up and expanded.
As a black teenager, I was lucky enough to be looking for jobs when the minimum wage law was rendered ineffective by inflation. I was also lucky enough to have gone through New York schools at a time when they still had high educational standards.
Decades later, when examining the math textbook used by some young relatives of mine, who were living where I grew up in Harlem, I discovered that the math they were being taught in the 11th grade was less than what I had been taught in the 9th grade.
The opportunities open to my young relatives in Harlem — and to other young blacks elsewhere — were not nearly as good as the opportunities open to me back in 1948.
Many of the seemingly compassionate policies promoted by the progressives in later years — whether in economics or in education — have had outcomes the opposite of what was expected. One of the tragedies of our times is that so many people judge by rhetoric, rather than by results.
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He's done this all along, skirting on the edge of racism without overtly stepping over, just so his little fanboys like you would have a reason to defend him.
You heard it here first, folks! What he did was NOT racist. He skirted, but did not step over the racist line.
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It is not about skin color, race, ethnicity, gender, nor sexual preference. Stop making it seem like it is as that is dishonest.
He's just applying full-Alinsky tactics, or rather parroting what he hears on MSLSD and NPR and 'round the faculty lounge.
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Because he singled out people of color for his diatribe.
Correlation D.N.E Causation? Right, Mr Scientist?
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He's just applying full-Alinsky tactics, or rather parroting what he hears on MSLSD and NPR and 'round the faculty lounge.
He is a CNN worshiper. No critical thinking required.
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Because he singled out people of color for his diatribe.
So you would be happier if he included a few white Caucasian males? Perhaps he could have selected someone like me and said I should go back to my Grandfather's Italy or my Grandmother's Germany.
I asked this earlier, but you must have missed it. Do you really think he singled those four out because of their color.
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So you would be happier if he included a few white Caucasian males? Perhaps he could have selected someone like me and said I should go back to my Grandfather's Italy or my Grandmother's Germany.
I asked this earlier, but you must have missed it. Do you really think he singled those four out because of their color.
Exactly. Can’t wait to hear how the Steinmeister contorts his answer to your question.
Trump is all America, all the time. You’re American? Act like one.
Stan is right. If we can’t criticize someone if they are of a politically preferred pigmentation, then those people will rule and everyone else’s freedom is co-opted by those who decide which pigmentation is beyond reproach and which is fair game.
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https://moonbattery.com/repetition-is-key-to-wielding-the-racism-club/
https://mobile.twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1151141405982515200
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Not only that. How is that concept "Racist"? Which is the claim of many Leftists. So Mikey went from "racist" to "hate". Hmmm. Seems like the old bait and switch to me.
He probably went from racist to hate because he was alluding to what older folks said to young antiwar protesters in the '60s and early '70s, most of whom were not black or of minority ethnicity. But I don't think it's accurate to say that those words were motivated by hate. Anger, yes, resentment that young people would desecrate a national symbol like the American flag. But not hatred, I don't think, in most cases.
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Naw......nothing racist here! Nothing whatsoever!
Move along!
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/07/18/flashback-when-jerry-nadler-used-government-resources-to-try-and-deport-american-citizen-sebastian-gorka-n2550287
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He probably went from racist to hate because he was alluding to what older folks said to young antiwar protesters in the '60s and early '70s, most of whom were not black or of minority ethnicity. But I don't think it's accurate to say that those words were motivated by hate. Anger, yes, resentment that young people would desecrate a national symbol like the American flag. But not hatred, I don't think, in most cases.
Agreed. As my memory as a kid it was more of a generational thing than anything else. The Baby Boomers of which I caught the end of really were unique. Not that I agree with a lot of their attitudes or what they ended up doing to society, but that's another story.
Ban the Bomb > Beatniks > Hippies and Hippie wannabees > Vietnam Protesters > Environmental Activists > Todays Progressives.
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He probably went from racist to hate because he was alluding to what older folks said to young antiwar protesters in the '60s and early '70s, most of whom were not black or of minority ethnicity. But I don't think it's accurate to say that those words were motivated by hate. Anger, yes, resentment that young people would desecrate a national symbol like the American flag. But not hatred, I don't think, in most cases.
So... he’s not a lying asshole, just an uniformed, delusional, progressive, spouting bullshit to pretend outrage and offense when there is none present, nor implied.
And exactly what is the difference?
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So... he’s not a lying asshole, just an uniformed, delusional, progressive, spouting bullshit to pretend outrage and offense when there is none present, nor implied.
And exactly what is the difference?
Theoretically the difference would be the absence of malice and malevolence. However, I think it is more switching accusations when one is obviously losing, thus the change from "Racist" to "Hate". When I think about it, there is no true difference. Racism is just hate based on skin color, ethnicity, etc.
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bump to get the spammers off the front page
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Andrew Stein is a Democrat.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/456523-donald-trumps-no-racist-as-past-acts-and-presidential-record-prove