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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on July 19, 2019, 09:31:06 AM

Title: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Rush on July 19, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
I broke my rule and am watching an American series, "Six Feet Under".  It took only until the third episode to take a jab at Republicans.  This character is saying he doesn't want to sell his business to a big corporation and take salary because he doesn't want "to make fat, Republican stockholders richer".

First of all, all stockholders are Republican????

But most important, the assumption that the "normal" world and audience would be Democrat.  How does the entertainment industry justify insulting 50% of its audience with jabs like this?

It would be fair enough to say the character is a Democrat and has his bias, but I have never seen such an offhand jab taken at Democrats by a character who is for the purpose of the show, not political.

This is the perfect example of how American entertainment is blindly liberal, urban and Democrat, and that is default normal.  Conservatives, Republicans or rural flyover people are some kind of alien. The premise is they are outsider and such offhand insults directed at them are of course normal and to be expected.

Do you not see this, and do you not grasp how the other half is becoming very resentful of this arrogant dismissal?  Do you not see how this may have played into Trump winning the election?
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Anthony on July 19, 2019, 09:39:13 AM
Rush, that is actually a very MILD example of the Far Left (Democrat) bias in today's Entertainment, Media, and Social Media.  The Left is still promoting the narrative that large corporations are all greedy and run by Republicans.  Nothing can be farther from the truth.  They are almost all run by leftist progressives, overly PC, SJW's that solely support Democrats. 

Until I stopped watching newer programming and movies, I often saw message against legal gun ownership, rural people (flyover country), MEN, constant pro man made climate change messages, dismissal of "Deniers", and many other purely Leftist views.   
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Lucifer on July 19, 2019, 09:56:23 AM
I wrote about a similar pattern with Hollyweird entertainment.  They are so ideologically blinded now that they are sacrificing hundreds of millions in profits. 

Most people just want entertainment.  Once upon a time our great comedians of the day put on great performances.  You didn't know their party affiliation, nor did you care.  Late night TV was entertaining.

 I recently watched The Cheyenne Social Club , a western starring Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda.   For those who don't know, Stewart was a conservative and Fonda was a liberal off stage, and they were close friends.  In the movie there is one small dialogue where Stewart admonishes Fonda's character for being a liberal.  It was funny and light hearted, and didn't distract from the movie.

 Bob Hope poked fun at democrats.  Johnny Carson poked fun at whoever was in the White House.  None of it was belligerent or done in anger.   John Wayne was very conservative, but he was admired by everyone, even die hard liberals.  Red Skelton paid many patriotic tributes to the country he loved, no one screamed "racist" at him.

 Then we have a news network, the one that pioneered 24/7 cable news. Ted Turner revolutionized news with "CNN".  For many years CNN was a trusted news source, then they sank into their liberal ideology so deep that they are now struggling for survival.  And as their ratings are lower than PBS, and shares are in the tank, they simply can't break the mold.

Finally, as it's been said before, liberals destroy everything they touch.  Entertainment is no different.
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Lucifer on July 19, 2019, 09:59:11 AM
Rush, that is actually a very MILD example of the Far Left (Democrat) bias in today's Entertainment, Media, and Social Media.  The Left is still promoting the narrative that large corporations are all greedy and run by Republicans.  Nothing can be farther from the truth.  They are almost all run by leftist progressives, overly PC, SJW's that solely support Democrats. 

Until I stopped watching newer programming and movies, I often saw message against legal gun ownership, rural people (flyover country), MEN, constant pro man made climate change messages, dismissal of "Deniers", and many other purely Leftist views.

Liberals cry about "income inequality" and those rich republican CEO's.

But yet, you never hear liberals complain about Hollywood types or sports figures, or music artist and the millions they make. 
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: azure on July 19, 2019, 10:11:19 AM
I think this is true, and unsurprising given where the entertainment industry in this country is centered. Apparently there was a 2011 book written about this issue by Ben Shapiro, called Primetime Propaganda. And it's not only in entertainment, but in education as well, as everyone here is well aware.

That the marginalization of traditional values conservatives had a lot to do with the backlash that resulted in Trump's election I think is undeniable. When you marginalize any group, you breed resentment.
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 19, 2019, 10:20:22 AM
It would be fair enough to say the character is a Democrat and has his bias, but I have never seen such an offhand jab taken at Democrats by a character who is for the purpose of the show, not political.

You must have missed this amusing jab:

Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Anthony on July 19, 2019, 10:30:35 AM
You must have missed this amusing jab:



How old is that movie Jim?  I will tell you.  It's from the 1940 movie, "Ghost Breakers".  That's 79 years ago.  Back them, with a looming world war, Hollywood was certainly pro-America. 

If you can't acknowledge that Hollywood, and the Media have become LEFTIST biased at least since the 1970's, then you are being dishonest. 
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Rush on July 19, 2019, 10:33:11 AM
You must have missed this amusing jab:



Ha ha! No I've seen that before.  I should have said I have never in recent years.
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Lucifer on July 19, 2019, 10:33:12 AM
You must have missed this amusing jab:



Did you see Bob Hope say that with vitriol?    Nope.  It was ligh hearted fun, nothing more.
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Little Joe on July 19, 2019, 10:59:36 AM
You must have missed this amusing jab:

I'm not sure which is funnier Jim,
The joke about Democrats, or the fact that you had to go back around 60 years to find it.

But thanks for sharing.  I enjoyed it.  The joke was even more true today than it was then.
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 19, 2019, 11:15:16 AM
How old is that movie Jim?  I will tell you.  It's from the 1940 movie, "Ghost Breakers".  That's 79 years ago.  Back them, with a looming world war, Hollywood was certainly pro-America. 

If you can't acknowledge that Hollywood, and the Media have become LEFTIST biased at least since the 1970's, then you are being dishonest.

I did not say I disagreed with her basic thesis. Her post just brought old Bob Hope's jab back to mind is all.

Indeed - the pendulum swings - there is a well-documented time when Hollywood blacklisted anyone with communist ties and their sympathizers. Payback's a bitch and I do hope the pendulum stops swinging, as I do not care for socialist crap.
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Anthony on July 19, 2019, 12:11:36 PM
I did not say I disagreed with her basic thesis. Her post just brought old Bob Hope's jab back to mind is all.

Indeed - the pendulum swings - there is a well-documented time when Hollywood blacklisted anyone with communist ties and their sympathizers. Payback's a bitch and I do hope the pendulum stops swinging, as I do not care for socialist crap.

Hollywood used to be pretty much neutral politically because they didn't want to alienate half their audience.  They were never "RIGHT WING".  Never.  So the pendulum has swung from the CENTER to the FAR LEFT. 

Ever watch the old Tonight Show with Johnny Carson?  He criticizes both parties.  Often the one in power at the time, or a party member that makes the news somehow, but never in a caustic way.  Bob Hope in his stand up routines made fun of both parties, and also played golf with Presidents and politicians of BOTH parties.

So you see today's environment in Hollywood and the Media is MUCH different than before and much worse.  The pendulum hasn't swung, it has come off. 
Title: Re: @steingar and other liberals
Post by: Number7 on July 19, 2019, 05:47:07 PM
The ease with which hollyweird attacks and insults everyone not stupid and liberal goes along with the ease with which the left goes postal if anyone so much as disagrees with any of the stupid things they say, do and demand.

The very same whack jobs that go nuclear on everyone to the right of Oprah, cry like the pussies are if anyone talks back.

What a bunch of hypocritical cowards.