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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 03:34:13 AM

Title: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 03:34:13 AM
Six cops were shot trying to arrest a guy on drug dealing charges.  Fortunately, they all are OK.

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FOX 29 has learned Hill has an extensive criminal history including at least a dozen arrests since he was turned 18. Hill has been in and out of prison since 2002 after being convicted on charges including illegal possession of guns and aggravated assault.

Most recently, Hill was convicted of perjury in 2013 and was sentenced to seven months’ probation.

Multiple Felon, did jail time for possessing illegal weapons, and jail time for other violent crime, and drug dealing yet he's on the street to commit more violent crime.  The Mayor says that weapons and "fire power" are the problem and need to be addressed.

https://www.fox29.com/news/maurice-hill-what-we-know-about-man-accused-of-shooting-6-philadelphia-officers
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2019, 05:15:45 AM
A convicted felon whose guns were illegal. And the response to this will be screams to further restrict guns from the law abiding.
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 05:22:19 AM
A convicted felon whose guns were illegal. And the response to this will be screams to further restrict guns from the law abiding.

I saw this live yesterday and the second sentence out of the Mayor's mouth was gun control about "weapons" and "fire power".  He knows it is the fault of the Democrats these career felons are on the street so deflect about more gun control.

Their agenda is to disarm the law abiding only. 

Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Username on August 15, 2019, 06:22:15 AM
I saw this live yesterday and the second sentence out of the Mayor's mouth was gun control about "weapons" and "fire power".  He knows it is the fault of the Democrats these career felons are on the street so deflect about more gun control.

Their agenda is to disarm the law abiding only.
The police were calling for long guns so they could take out the perp.  The mayor is right, something has to be done about it.  It is disgusting.  But the mayor is wrong about the solution.  Don't disarm the population but properly arm the police.  Peace through superior firepower.

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"Our officers deserve to be protected and they don't deserve to be shot at by a guy for hours with an unlimited supply of weapons and an unlimited supply of bullets. It's disgusting and we got to do something about it ... quickly," the mayor said.
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 06:31:55 AM
The police were calling for long guns so they could take out the perp.  The mayor is right, something has to be done about it.  It is disgusting.  But the mayor is wrong about the solution.  Don't disarm the population but properly arm the police.  Peace through superior firepower.

I was watching it live. They had SWAT and other officers all armed with AR-15's or M-16's.  Probably the latter.  The Philly police are well armed, that's not the problem.  The real solution is much longer jail term for these repeat Felons.  This guy hand multiple firearm related Felonies, as well as a bunch for violent crime, drug dealing etc.  He MAY get a good jail term now because he shot six cops.   
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: jb1842 on August 15, 2019, 08:04:01 AM
The police were calling for long guns so they could take out the perp.  The mayor is right, something has to be done about it.  It is disgusting.  But the mayor is wrong about the solution.  Don't disarm the population but properly arm the police.  Peace through superior firepower.

Is there audio available of the police response, or is this just coming from the news? Most people don't know this, but a .223/5.56 round is very light and starts to tumble, break up (depending on type of round) and lose energy fast after it hits something. They could have been calling for SWAT and a dedicated sniper that shoots a heavier bullet.
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 08:30:19 AM
Is there audio available of the police response, or is this just coming from the news? Most people don't know this, but a .223/5.56 round is very light and starts to tumble, break up (depending on type of round) and lose energy fast after it hits something. They could have been calling for SWAT and a dedicated sniper that shoots a heavier bullet.

I've heard some of the audio, but they didn't call for snipers per se, just long guns.  The only rifles I saw were M-4's (or AR-15 pattern carbines).  That doesn't mean there were no snipers there with .308's, etc. From what I could tell it was really closer quarters stuff, without the possibility of a long shot, but I don't know that for sure.

In the old days that career criminal would have never emerged alive.  Cops don't like getting shot at, and getting shot.  Go figure. 
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 08:32:21 AM
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PHILADELPHIA Police sources identified the gunman in a standoff at a Philadelphia apartment building that left six police officers injured as Maurice Hill, 36, a city resident with a lengthy history of gun convictions and of resisting attempts to bring him to justice.


The police sources declined to be identified because they were not authorized to speak. Reached by phone about 9:30 p.m. Thursday evening, Shaka Mzee Johnson, the lawyer who most recently represented Hill, confirmed that Hill had a connection to the standoff.


"My client is requesting me to come to the scene," he said.


The standoff began Thursday about 4:30 p.m. when a Narcotics Strike Force unit attempted to serve a search warrant at a house on the 3700 block of North 15th Street in the Tioga section of North Philadelphia.


For the next few hours, police used bullhorns and phone calls, trying to get him to surrender.


Hill's history in the adult criminal justice system began in 2001 when he was 18 and was arrested with a gun that had an altered serial number.


Public records show that he has been arrested about a dozen times since turning 18, and convicted six times on charges that involved illegal possession of guns, drug dealing and aggravated assault. He has been in and out of prison; the longest sentence handed him came in 2010, when a federal judge gave him a 55-month term.


And, his record would indicate, he does not like to go to prison. In 2008, he was convicted of escaping, fleeing from police and resisting arrest. Along the way, he beat criminal charges on everything from kidnapping to attempted murder.


Hill also spent time in federal prison. In 2008, he pleaded guilty to federal firearms violations after he was caught with a Smith & Wesson .357 and later a Taurus PT .45 semiautomatic. His prior felony convictions should have barred him from owning those weapons. U.S. District Judge Paul S. Diamond sentenced him to four years and seven months in prison.


More recently, Hill was convicted of perjury in 2013 and sentenced to seven years of probation. He appeared before Common Pleas Court Judge Rayford Means for three different alleged violations of probation at least two of them related to new cases, which he later beat.


In one of those cases, Philadelphia police arrested Hill in May 2014, after spotting him driving an unregistered scooter. But when officers tried to stop him, he raced down an alleyway against traffic on a one-way street and then onto a sidewalk, sending pedestrians scattering, court records say. Hill crashed the scooter and then fled on foot but was apprehended. He was charged with driving without a license, recklessly endangering another person, and fleeing police, but later was acquitted on all counts.


Philadelphia police arrested Hill again in October 2014 on charges of drug possession and false imprisonment.


According to court filings, his accuser told police she had agreed to sell marijuana for Hill but then later changed her mind. When he summoned her to his house in Southwest Philadelphia days later, she says, she overheard Hill and an associate discussing killing her. Fearful for her life, the woman said, she called 911. When officers arrived, she fled as Hill and his associate hid the crack cocaine and marijuana in a tire out back. Investigators discovered 83 grams of marijuana.


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Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 08:33:51 AM
Here is his rap sheet. It is unbelievable how he was caught at least 10 times as a felon with a firearm and in all cases the charge was dropped. He only spent a few years in jail but if you total all of the charges that were Nolle Process he should have been in for centuries. And these not processed charges were not minor things like drinking or causing a nuisance. They were mostly hard core felonies.

https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Docket...EXI66YmA%3d%3d
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Number7 on August 15, 2019, 08:42:03 AM
He must give on hell of a blow job to beat those charges so often.

I wonder if anyone told bill clinton about him, yet....
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: jb1842 on August 15, 2019, 08:50:36 AM
Prosecutors don't care about punishing criminals, all they want is a high conviction rate, an they get that through plea deals. It's all about the numbers. I've seen it hundreds of times where someone had multiple charges, plead down to a lesser charge, and dropped the most serious charges. Then the same prosecutor barely putting up a fight to get the maximum sentence the criminal deserved. They love plea deals because half of them couldn't put on a criminal trial to save their lives.
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: jb1842 on August 15, 2019, 08:52:03 AM
I've heard some of the audio, but they didn't call for snipers per se, just long guns.  The only rifles I saw were M-4's (or AR-15 pattern carbines).  That doesn't mean there were no snipers there with .308's, etc. From what I could tell it was really closer quarters stuff, without the possibility of a long shot, but I don't know that for sure.

In the old days that career criminal would have never emerged alive.  Cops don't like getting shot at, and getting shot.  Go figure.

I read somewhere that they were shooting through the floors. That can screw up the path of the bullet for sure.
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 09:07:52 AM
I read somewhere that they were shooting through the floors. That can screw up the path of the bullet for sure.

I didn't read, no her that, so don't know.  Yes, that would alter the path of a 5.56 pretty well, or any small arms bullet for that matter. 

In 1985 the Philly police ultimately responded to a domestic terrorist group, "Move" by having a helicopter drop a bomb on their building after a long stand off.  Thankfully the Mayor that gave the order was Black, or there would have been Race Riots all over the city.   
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: jb1842 on August 15, 2019, 09:38:08 AM
I didn't read, no her that, so don't know.  Yes, that would alter the path of a 5.56 pretty well, or any small arms bullet for that matter. 

In 1985 the Philly police ultimately responded to a domestic terrorist group, "Move" by having a helicopter drop a bomb on their building after a long stand off.  Thankfully the Mayor that gave the order was Black, or there would have been Race Riots all over the city.

Give it time. Soros is probably working on getting money to rioters as we speak.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/crowd-of-onlookers-taunt-police-during-philadelphia-standoff-reports
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: nddons on August 15, 2019, 12:11:38 PM
Prosecutors don't care about punishing criminals, all they want is a high conviction rate, an they get that through plea deals. It's all about the numbers. I've seen it hundreds of times where someone had multiple charges, plead down to a lesser charge, and dropped the most serious charges. Then the same prosecutor barely putting up a fight to get the maximum sentence the criminal deserved. They love plea deals because half of them couldn't put on a criminal trial to save their lives.
Yet, if out of all their violent felonies they were charged with possession or dealing, guys like this would be high on the list of people needing to be released from prison due to “nonviolent drug charges”. I shit you not. We are going to see that with our new bleeding heart Wisconsin Governor.
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: YouOnlyLiveTwice on August 15, 2019, 06:01:56 PM
I saw this live yesterday and the second sentence out of the Mayor's mouth was gun control about "weapons" and "fire power".  He knows it is the fault of the Democrats these career felons are on the street so deflect about more gun control.

Their agenda is to disarm the law abiding only.
F Kenney. What an assclown, in a long line of philly mayoral assclowns.
Title: Re: Six cops shot in Philly
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 06:40:14 PM
F Kenney. What an assclown, in a long line of philly mayoral assclowns.

Indeed.  I can't wait until the Johnny Doc scandal takes him down.  D-bag extraordinaire.