PILOT SPIN

Pilot Zone => Rusty & Student Pilots => Topic started by: jaybee on February 19, 2016, 07:06:48 AM

Title: 61.129 a 4 ii
Post by: jaybee on February 19, 2016, 07:06:48 AM
Can the night cross country be done under the hood in "VFR conditions" and still count ?
Title: Re: 61.129 a 4 ii
Post by: Jaybird180 on February 19, 2016, 07:41:01 AM
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(ii) 5 hours in night VFR conditions with 10 takeoffs and 10 landings (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern) at an airport with an operating control tower.
Would it be considered reckless and dangerous to perform the above actions with a view limiting device?  If an incident were to occur, what part of the PTS could be used to justify the "training" exercise as reasonable and justifiable?
 
More importantly, the section above that reads:
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(4) Ten hours of solo flight time in a single engine airplane or 10 hours of flight time performing the duties of pilot in command in a single engine airplane with an authorized instructor on board (either of which may be credited towards the flight time requirement under paragraph (a)(2) of this section), on the areas of operation listed under §61.127(b)(1) that include—
Notice that it requires the 10 hours to be performed solo.  How do you suppose to fly solo with a view limiting device?  Solve that problem and you're home free.
Title: 61.129 a 4 ii
Post by: nddons on February 19, 2016, 09:18:48 AM
Can the night cross country be done under the hood in "VFR conditions" and still count ?

Why would you want to do this?  If you don't have your ASEL, you need to learn skills and issues that are unique to night flight, including a false horizon, vertigo upon takeoff, finding an airport via its beacon, pilotage, and different visual clues unique to night flight.

EDIT:  Withdrawn, because I'm an idiot and didn't read the FAR.
Title: Re: 61.129 a 4 ii
Post by: Jaybird180 on February 19, 2016, 09:30:09 AM
Let us remember that this reg is in the section for a candidate seeking a CPL.
Title: Re: 61.129 a 4 ii
Post by: nddons on February 19, 2016, 09:33:15 AM

Let us remember that this reg is in the section for a candidate seeking a CPL.

Ah, you're right. My mistake. Sorry, OP.
Title: Re: 61.129 a 4 ii
Post by: jaybee on February 19, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
Would it be considered reckless and dangerous to perform the above actions with a view limiting device?  If an incident were to occur, what part of the PTS could be used to justify the "training" exercise as reasonable and justifiable?
 
More importantly, the section above that reads: Notice that it requires the 10 hours to be performed solo.  How do you suppose to fly solo with a view limiting device?  Solve that problem and you're home free.

"...or 10 hours of flight time performing the duties of pilot in command in a single engine airplane with an authorized instructor on board..."

guess I'm home free.  8)