Post by: Rush on August 15, 2019, 11:02:06 AM
How can I get some of this stuff shipped to my family in NC?
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Sales of Polygamy Porter beer banned in NC
Raleigh, N.C. — The state Alcoholic Beverage Control Commission on Wednesday denied the appeal of a Utah-based brewery to sell its Polygamy Porter in North Carolina.
The ABC Commission initially denied a permit for Wasatch Brewery in May, stating flatly, "Polygamy is illegal. Therefore these products will not be approved."
Wasatch appealed the decision, but the commission rejected the appeal, citing state administrative code that prohibits certain statements on labels or in ads for alcoholic beverages. One such prohibition deals with depictions that are "undignified, immodest, or in bad taste."
Polygamy Porter's label depicts a scantily clad bearded man with three equally scantily clad women.
"Why have just one?" Wasatch states on its website promotion. "Polygamy Porter is a smooth, chocolatey, easy-drinkin' brown porter that's more than a little naughty. Take some home to the wives!"
North Carolina would have been only the second state east of the Mississippi River to sell Wasatch brews. The company's website shows its sales territory stretches from Wisconsin to Nevada.
https://www.wral.com/sales-of-polygamy-porter-beer-banned-in-nc/18569271/
(https://wasatchbeers.com/assets/images/beers-pic-polygamy.jpg)
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2019, 11:07:21 AM
On the subject of marriage, ever wonder why one needs to be licensed to have a spouse? The actual reason would blow liberals minds.
Post by: Little Joe on August 15, 2019, 11:17:24 AM
Post by: Username on August 15, 2019, 11:19:06 AM
Shear idiocy.Not to marry but one should certainly have a license to have kids. Sterilize at birth, then once you can prove that you can support and raise a child to the age of 18 you get it temporarily reversed. Brought to you by the ministry of procreation.
On the subject of marriage, ever wonder why one needs to be licensed to have a spouse? The actual reason would blow liberals minds.
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2019, 11:31:28 AM
I wonder if they sell that stuff in Florida?
No.
(http://wasatchbeers.com/assets/images/beerDistributionMap.png)
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2019, 12:24:00 PM
No.
(http://wasatchbeers.com/assets/images/beerDistributionMap.png)
Hmmmmm, guess we get an 18 wheeler and head out there. We'll need a car to run interference on the way back, a fast car......
Post by: Steingar on August 15, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2019, 12:57:23 PM
I'm with Agatha on this. The State has no business peeking into people's private lives so long as everyone is consenting and no one in being harmed. I actually know a polyamorous family. While I might not wish to participate in this lifestyle (the one I know is two guys and one girl. Bleeeech!) I have no desire to prevent them from living as they see fit. And NC is nuts for banning a beer because of the name and non-libidinous picture on the label.
Two guys one girl? Yeah I don't get that. One man is all I can handle.
Post by: nddons on August 15, 2019, 01:12:05 PM
I guess this is one of the things that makes me a libertarian, not a conservative. I don't think substances should be banned, least of all beer. Second, I don't think the picture of the scantily clad man and three women is undignified, immodest, or in bad taste. Third, I see nothing wrong with polygamy as long as it is between consenting adults, and the man, not the taxpayer, supports all his wives and kids. But most of all, I don't like government telling me I cannot buy a harmless beer because somebody thinks the label is offensive (subjective opinion) or because polygamists brewed it (religious discrimination, no?)What makes you attribute this to conservatism? Serious question.
How can I get some of this stuff shipped to my family in NC?
https://www.wral.com/sales-of-polygamy-porter-beer-banned-in-nc/18569271/
(https://wasatchbeers.com/assets/images/beers-pic-polygamy.jpg)
Having lived in Charlotte for 6 years and traveled North and South Carolina extensively, in a state that hates Catholics (which I am) more than almost anything, I would say the Bible Belt mentality vastly overrides political party.
NC has state-controlled liquor stores, called ABC stores. They don’t just regulate liquor, as all states do, they control it. I left NC in 2006
A quick check shows the NC State Senate was controlled by Democrats from 1992-2013. The NC State House was controlled by Democrats from 1992-3013.
In 2016 the governorship flipped back to a Democrat.
Just saying it’s a fallacy to attribute the patriarchy of the NC booze business to conservatism.
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2019, 01:52:11 PM
What makes you attribute this to conservatism? Serious question.
Having lived in Charlotte for 6 years and traveled North and South Carolina extensively, in a state that hates Catholics (which I am) more than almost anything, I would say the Bible Belt mentality vastly overrides political party.
NC has state-controlled liquor stores, called ABC stores. They don’t just regulate liquor, as all states do, they control it. I left NC in 2006
A quick check shows the NC State Senate was controlled by Democrats from 1992-2013. The NC State House was controlled by Democrats from 1992-3013.
In 2016 the governorship flipped back to a Democrat.
Just saying it’s a fallacy to attribute the patriarchy of the NC booze business to conservatism.
I was hoping someone would make this point! You are spot on; it's not conservatives per se against alcohol but tends to be southern Protestants, who right now tend to be equated with conservatives. However it might be fair to say conservatives are against polygamy, if they support "Marriage is one man and one woman." That gets a lot of press these days, but it's in the context of being against gay marriage. I don't know if polygamy is on the radar of the general public.
I'm Catholic too, or at least was raised Catholic. I can remember as a child seeing a burning cross in front of a Catholic Church one night, when we were on vacation near the Outer Banks.
Post by: azure on August 15, 2019, 05:01:50 PM
I guess this is one of the things that makes me a libertarian, not a conservative. I don't think substances should be banned, least of all beer. Second, I don't think the picture of the scantily clad man and three women is undignified, immodest, or in bad taste. Third, I see nothing wrong with polygamy as long as it is between consenting adults, and the man, not the taxpayer, supports all his wives and kids. But most of all, I don't like government telling me I cannot buy a harmless beer because somebody thinks the label is offensive (subjective opinion) or because polygamists brewed it (religious discrimination, no?)
How can I get some of this stuff shipped to my family in NC?
https://www.wral.com/sales-of-polygamy-porter-beer-banned-in-nc/18569271/
(https://wasatchbeers.com/assets/images/beers-pic-polygamy.jpg)
The only point I'll disagree with you on is the bad taste thing... actually not so much bad taste as a serious groaner (the why have just one gimmick). But even if it were truly in bad taste, that's no reason to ban something. Let the market decide - and it'll succeed or fail mostly on the basis of taste (the taste of the beer, that is).
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 05:23:24 PM
The only point I'll disagree with you on is the bad taste thing... actually not so much bad taste as a serious groaner (the why have just one gimmick). But even if it were truly in bad taste, that's no reason to ban something. Let the market decide - and it'll succeed or fail mostly on the basis of taste (the taste of the beer, that is).
So, we've heard Rush's take. What's yours on two women and one guy?
Post by: nddons on August 15, 2019, 05:38:46 PM
So, we've heard Rush's take. What's yours on two women and one guy?Not sure about the ladies, but I think I can speak for all men when I say “We are all George Costanza”:
https://youtu.be/j6_pv_vRHKI
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 15, 2019, 05:39:36 PM
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 05:46:00 PM
Not sure about the ladies, but I think I can speak for all men when I say “We are all George Costanza”:
https://youtu.be/j6_pv_vRHKI
I think there is a Seinfeld reference for every eventuality in life. lol!
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2019, 05:54:26 PM
Not sure about the ladies, but I think I can speak for all men when I say “We are all George Costanza”:
https://youtu.be/j6_pv_vRHKI
One of my favorite Seinfeld scenes.
Post by: azure on August 15, 2019, 06:53:55 PM
So, we've heard Rush's take. What's yours on two women and one guy?
Same thing as if it were one woman and two guys. I don't think the government should be involved in controlling intimate relationships between consenting partners.
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2019, 07:29:48 PM
Same thing as if it were one woman and two guys. I don't think the government should be involved in controlling intimate relationships between consenting partners.
Well my attempt at levity obviously failed.
I agree on government staying out of personal, and/or intimate relationships as well. Also, marriage. Government should not be involved, nor need to sanction marriage.
Post by: Number7 on August 15, 2019, 07:42:48 PM
It seems like it was Pope Nicholas in the 800's that defined 'legal' marriage as taking place at the altar, in the church.
Here it was a rather fluid term for quite some time and only became an issue when taxation and licensing could be applied to it.
Post by: azure on August 16, 2019, 06:02:01 AM
Well my attempt at levity obviously failed.
I agree on government staying out of personal, and/or intimate relationships as well. Also, marriage. Government should not be involved, nor need to sanction marriage.
I thought you might have been joking... but even one guy is too many for me. Two women? Not my style, but to each their own.
BTW polyamory is fairly common in the LGBT community, and I have been to women's festivals that had workshops on the subject. I wonder if "Polyamory Beer" would have gotten the ban too? Probably not, but the name isn't as catchy anyway.
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 06:06:50 AM
I thought you might have been joking... but even one guy is too many for me. Two women? Not my style, but to each their own.
BTW polyamory is fairly common in the LGBT community, and I have been to women's festivals that had workshops on the subject. I wonder if "Polyamory Beer" would have gotten the ban too? Probably not, but the name isn't as catchy anyway.
I bet that would sail over the commissioners’ heads, they probably never heard of the word. They might allow it unless they think to look it up in a dictionary.
Post by: Anthony on August 16, 2019, 06:10:02 AM
BTW polyamory is fairly common in the LGBT community, and I have been to women's festivals that had workshops on the subject. I wonder if "Polyamory Beer" would have gotten the ban too? Probably not, but the name isn't as catchy anyway.
That's fine if everyone consenting, obviously. I don't know why some people get their panties in a bunch over other people's choices in their personal, and intimate lives. As long as it is consenting adults, and nobody is trying to force their lifestyle on others, I don't see the problem.
Post by: bflynn on August 16, 2019, 06:13:45 AM
So, we've heard Rush's take. What's yours on two women and one guy?
That the guy is a masochist. The penalty for having two wives should be having two wives.
Also being from NC, I don't think the ABC board is on point here. If I name something "M-16 Beer", they would not ban it based on the name, but M-16s are illegal in the state. This is somebody's puritan religious views being forced onto others under color of law.
I hope the ABC board is sued all the way to the supreme court if necessary. It's a clear violation of first amendment because the beer isn't practicing polygamy, it just has the word on the label.
Post by: Anthony on August 16, 2019, 06:17:41 AM
That the guy is a masochist. The penalty for having two wives should be having two wives.
I wasn't talking about marriage. :)
Post by: Little Joe on August 16, 2019, 06:41:06 AM
I wasn't talking about marriage. :)A lot (most) men fantasize about that, but about 40 years ago when I was young, healthy and (I thought) good looking, I had that experience. It started off ok, but not nearly as satisfying as one good woman. But it quickly devolved into about the worst two years of my life. The women involved turned out to have a whole lot more mental problems than just being willing to participate in such a tryst. I was stalked and hounded by them until I was finally able to arrange a job transfer across the country and left without telling them. It was easier to hide in those days before internet search engines and cell phones.
Somebody posted a meme somewhere; it might have been here. It was a picture of a hot babe with the caption (something like) "No matter how hot she is, there is some guy some where that is sick of her shit." Two women don't double that shit. The shit multiplies by the square of the number of women.
Post by: Steingar on August 16, 2019, 07:11:34 AM
So, we've heard Rush's take. What's yours on two women and one guy?
I have a hard enough time putting up with one of them. Really don't know how lesbians deal with it either.
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 07:22:17 AM
I have a hard enough time putting up with one of them. Really don't know how lesbians deal with it either.
I'm a woman and I hear ya. I seriously don't know how men (or lesbians) put up with us.
Post by: Anthony on August 16, 2019, 07:26:27 AM
I'm a woman and I hear ya. I seriously don't know how men (or lesbians) put up with us.
Some just don't. I doubt I may ever live with a woman again. I certainly won't get married again, and am happy with casual relationships from time to time. My freedom, and sanity are too important to me.
I was dating a woman who once exclaimed "Your house looks too masculine!" or something to that affect. I told her it looks like a guy lives here because ONE DOES. Many women just seem to have the controlling, feminization gene. No thanks.
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2019, 07:34:20 AM
I'm a woman and I hear ya. I seriously don't know how men (or lesbians) put up with us.Ha. My wife of 35 years is sometimes a handful. She’s Irish, so, duh. My daughter has followed suit. They are both strong-headed women, and I love that.
We also have a very good female friend, who’s not married and in her 40’s. I spend a lot of time with her because we are both officers on our CAF wing. She too is strong headed and sometimes a handful. She’s quite the sparring partner. So she asked me how I put up with her shit sometimes, and I told her that I like a challenge.
This is literally true. I feel alive with these women in my life. Once in my life I dated a meek, blond Barbi-type. I could not stand it!
Give me a strong-headed brunette any day of the week.
Post by: azure on August 16, 2019, 07:35:46 AM
I'm a woman and I hear ya. I seriously don't know how men (or lesbians) put up with us.
I haven't had a partner in over 15 years, haven't seriously dated in 12. Not sure if I ever will again. I don't know if it's women or just that relationships with either sex are difficult. Human beings are complex. Plus, like others here, I value my freedom too.
Post by: Little Joe on August 16, 2019, 07:41:15 AM
Some just don't. I doubt I may ever live with a woman again. I certainly won't get married again, and am happy with casual relationships from time to time. My freedom, and sanity are too important to me.On the other hand,
I was dating a woman who once exclaimed "Your house looks too masculine!" or something to that affect. I told her it looks like a guy lives here because ONE DOES. Many women just seem to have the controlling, feminization gene. No thanks.
Before I met my future wife, I had a long term girlfriend that insisted on "decorating" my house. She picked out much of the furniture, the curtains, the bed spreads and those stupid things they call duvets, bolsters, shams etc.
I finally got rid of her and met my first and current wife. One of the first things she did was get rid of all the "sissy" stuff. Unfortunately, she also (subtly) had me get rid of my Trans-Am. At least she didn't interfere with my garage.
If I ever part with my wife, I will either stalk Rush ;) or take up your lifestyle Anthony.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 16, 2019, 07:43:40 AM
I'm a woman and I hear ya. I seriously don't know how men (or lesbians) put up with us.In general I prefer being around men, mostly because most (many?) women don’t think things through but react emotionally. My best women friends are thinkers. So are the women whose thoughts I like to read ... like azure and Rush. :)
I’d love to have a few beers with you ladies. And all the guys here except Steingar! Woo hoo!
I like Stan’s noticing when he feels alive with certain people. Me too! Sadly, my liberal friends make me feel dead. :(
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 16, 2019, 07:45:32 AM
On the other hand,
Before I met my future wife, I had a long term girlfriend that insisted on "decorating" my house. She picked out much of the furniture, the curtains, the bed spreads and those stupid things they call duvets, bolsters, shams etc.
I finally got rid of her and met my first and current wife. One of the first things she did was get rid of all the "sissy" stuff. Unfortunately, she also (subtly) had me get rid of my Trans-Am. At least she didn't interfere with my garage.
If I ever part with my wife, I will either stalk Rush ;) or take up your lifestyle Anthony.
I know, right? Why would you want something called a “sham?”
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 08:21:35 AM
A lot (most) men fantasize about that, but about 40 years ago when I was young, healthy and (I thought) good looking, I had that experience. It started off ok, but not nearly as satisfying as one good woman. But it quickly devolved into about the worst two years of my life. The women involved turned out to have a whole lot more mental problems than just being willing to participate in such a tryst. I was stalked and hounded by them until I was finally able to arrange a job transfer across the country and left without telling them. It was easier to hide in those days before internet search engines and cell phones.
Somebody posted a meme somewhere; it might have been here. It was a picture of a hot babe with the caption (something like) "No matter how hot she is, there is some guy some where that is sick of her shit." Two women don't double that shit. The shit multiplies by the square of the number of women.
Yikes. A lot of us have amazing stories from our youth, it's a miracle as many of us survive as we do. When I was 18 and a freshman at college, I and my roommate were taken out to dinner by a couple of very impressive (rich) looking older men who we knew to be businessmen, and, it was rumored, had connections with the mafia. As we were finishing a very nice dinner, they invited us to fly with them back to NYC in their private jet to attend a party where we would meet Dustin Hoffman and Al Pacino. Not being TOTALLY stupid, we, in the lady's room, discussed it and concluded it was likely they were trying to lure us into prostitution. "Meet movie stars"... yeah right. So we thanked them for the dinner and had them drop us off at our dorm. Stupid youth - it was bad enough we got in the car and went to dinner with them, we were lucky nothing else happened. They didn't even try to kiss us, they were complete gentlemen, but no doubt their game was to lure trusting girls into their plane, not have a one night stand.
Why did we go to dinner with them in the first place, despite having heard about the mafia connection? Young people want to dip their big toe into exciting, adventurous and forbidden things, things they think are "grown up", and if they think it might be dangerous, they are too damn naive to believe anything could actually happen to them personally. You found out the adventure isn't all it's cracked up to be, can even lead to danger. Sheesh, you had to move to shake those crazies!
Post by: Anthony on August 16, 2019, 08:21:59 AM
If I ever part with my wife, I will either stalk Rush ;)
I saw her first! :)
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or take up your lifestyle Anthony.
Well, my idea of a fun evening is making five hundred rounds of .45 ACP or 9MM in my basement.
I used to have this thought that all of my guy friends and I would eventually get divorced, and be single again. We would all live together (separate rooms!) in a kind of a "Frat House" situation where we would revert back to our younger selves, without the stupidity of course. We would have enough money to travel, have fun, and do whatever we wanted, plus have a housekeeper, named Mrs. Hanratty, who was also a good cook and gave us motherly advice especially about the bimbos we were dating. :)
Post by: Old Crow on August 16, 2019, 08:37:21 AM
I have a hard enough time putting up with one of them. Really don't know how lesbians deal with it either.Especially if both women have PMS on the same day. Don't wanna be around for that!
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2019, 08:58:33 AM
I saw her first! :)While I’ve never met you, the image in my mind’s eye of you is Frank the Tank from Old School:
Well, my idea of a fun evening is making five hundred rounds of .45 ACP or 9MM in my basement.
I used to have this thought that all of my guy friends and I would eventually get divorced, and be single again. We would all live together (separate rooms!) in a kind of a "Frat House" situation where we would revert back to our younger selves, without the stupidity of course. We would have enough money to travel, have fun, and do whatever we wanted, plus have a housekeeper, named Mrs. Hanratty, who was also a good cook and gave us motherly advice especially about the bimbos we were dating. :)
https://youtu.be/thkf-DD5NlA
Post by: Anthony on August 16, 2019, 11:08:27 AM
While I’ve never met you, the image in my mind’s eye of you is Frank the Tank from Old School:
https://youtu.be/thkf-DD5NlA
Sorry to disappoint you Stan. I look nor act nothing like Will Ferrell. I am more like one of the characters in Animal House. Flounder, Bluto, or Dean Wormer. LOL! Or maybe like one of the Black guys at the bar, but not Otis Day.
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 11:41:08 AM
In general I prefer being around men, mostly because most (many?) women don’t think things through but react emotionally. My best women friends are thinkers. So are the women whose thoughts I like to read ... like azure and Rush. :)
That is exactly me. I like people who analyze and intellectualize and think in deep layers and levels and multiple dimensions. Women often think in one dimension: the emotional one, form a hysterical opinion and then shut their eyes and plug their ears and go la la la la la la la
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I’d love to have a few beers with you ladies. And all the guys here except Steingar! Woo hoo!
No offense to any of you guys and ladies but I'd rather have a beer with Steingar. It would be more challenging and then more satisfying to find common ground and agree on something. And maybe have a slight chance to budge him a millimeter off the extreme left.
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 11:49:24 AM
Ha. My wife of 35 years is sometimes a handful. She’s Irish, so, duh. My daughter has followed suit. They are both strong-headed women, and I love that.
We also have a very good female friend, who’s not married and in her 40’s. I spend a lot of time with her because we are both officers on our CAF wing. She too is strong headed and sometimes a handful. She’s quite the sparring partner. So she asked me how I put up with her shit sometimes, and I told her that I like a challenge.
This is literally true. I feel alive with these women in my life. Once in my life I dated a meek, blond Barbi-type. I could not stand it!
Give me a strong-headed brunette any day of the week.
But here's the thing; you are a strong headed man, or you wouldn't be a sparring partner and enjoying it, you'd be a doormat who would one day snap and strangle her to death, leaving everyone scratching their heads because you are so sweet, gentle and calm and nobody saw it coming. ;D
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 11:53:54 AM
If I ever part with my wife, I will either stalk Rush
I saw her first! :)
I finally got two men fighting over me! It's about time. ;D
Post by: Steingar on August 16, 2019, 12:48:19 PM
No offense to any of you guys and ladies but I'd rather have a beer with Steingar. It would be more challenging and then more satisfying to find common ground and agree on something. And maybe have a slight chance to budge him a millimeter off the extreme left.
Agatha, I'm pretty certain we actually have met in the real, can't really pinpoint where. No beer involved, we were both flying.
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 03:05:40 PM
Agatha, I'm pretty certain we actually have met in the real, can't really pinpoint where. No beer involved, we were both flying.
Well dang I’m going to have to wrack my brain. Years and years ago we attended a few fly ins or pancake breakfasts and met with what back then was AOPA people. Or Babes and Airplanes, if you were ever one of them. Don’t ask me to recall where all we went. The one place I do remember was Patty Wagstaff and Snort Snodgrass’s party at her house, were you there?
Post by: Anthony on August 16, 2019, 03:17:18 PM
Well dang I’m going to have to wrack my brain. Years and years ago we attended a few fly ins or pancake breakfasts and met with what back then was AOPA people. Or Babes and Airplanes, if you were ever one of them. Don’t ask me to recall where all we went. The one place I do remember was Patty Wagstaff and Snort Snodgrass’s party at her house, were you there?
I met Michael (Steingar) and his lovely wife at one, or more POA fly ins outside of Philly at Wings airport. I don't think you and Mark ever came to that one, or it may have been when I was living in Colorado for several years, and stopped attending stuff in the East.
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 03:34:41 PM
I met Michael (Steingar) and his lovely wife at one, or more POA fly ins outside of Philly at Wings airport. I don't think you and Mark ever came to that one, or it may have been when I was living in Colorado for several years, and stopped attending stuff in the East.
You and I met at least twice, you came to my house once if I recall, the other time I don’t think it was philly, I have no idea where.
Post by: Steingar on August 16, 2019, 05:55:28 PM
Well dang I’m going to have to wrack my brain. Years and years ago we attended a few fly ins or pancake breakfasts and met with what back then was AOPA people. Or Babes and Airplanes, if you were ever one of them. Don’t ask me to recall where all we went. The one place I do remember was Patty Wagstaff and Snort Snodgrass’s party at her house, were you there?I’ll bet cash money it was at one of Adam Zucker’s do’s at KLOM. I can understand why you might not recall, there were a LOT of people from the different sites. It was a long time ago.
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2019, 06:49:50 PM
I’ll bet cash money it was at one of Adam Zucker’s do’s at KLOM. I can understand why you might not recall, there were a LOT of people from the different sites. It was a long time ago.
Mark says we’ve never been to KLOM. Did you ever go to W41, Crisfield Maryland?
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2019, 09:08:35 PM
Mark says we’ve never been to KLOM. Did you ever go to W41, Crisfield Maryland?Get a room you two!
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2019, 09:12:21 PM
But here's the thing; you are a strong headed man, or you wouldn't be a sparring partner and enjoying it, you'd be a doormat who would one day snap and strangle her to death, leaving everyone scratching their heads because you are so sweet, gentle and calm and nobody saw it coming. ;DWell I think I can be sweet, gentle and calm and still be toxically masculine.
. That’s a serious statement. True, I’ve never understood the doormat man, or the women who like that.
Post by: Rush on August 17, 2019, 04:53:58 AM
Well I think I can be sweet, gentle and calm and still be toxically masculine.
True, I’ve never understood the doormat man, or the women who like that.
You’ve got the right mix of sweet and “toxic”. Haha! My husband and I are both firstborn and that’s what we attribute our mutual strong willed sparring to, whether there’s really anything to birth order or not I don’t know.
Post by: Anthony on August 17, 2019, 04:59:45 AM
Get a room you two!
Jealous!
:)
Post by: Steingar on August 19, 2019, 05:57:53 AM
Mark says we’ve never been to KLOM. Did you ever go to W41, Crisfield Maryland?
Nope. Can't say when or where, but you and I have been in proximity somewhere sometime in the past. We didn't even get mad at each other.
Post by: Rush on August 19, 2019, 07:25:07 AM
Nope. Can't say when or where, but you and I have been in proximity somewhere sometime in the past. We didn't even get mad at each other.
Well Anthony and I did “get a room” (PM) and we figured out that my memory of him showing up at my house was actually just a phone call. Apparently when I was standing in my kitchen on the phone with him I pictured him so well I have a false memory of him standing there in my kitchen in real life. Maybe something like that happened with you and me, maybe we both went to Oshkosh or somewhere else but missed each other by a day or maybe we talked about meeting up but never did. I don’t think I would have forgotten meeting you however if it was prior to our in-depth debates about politics it’s possible. I have been on the forums since 1999 ...... wow, 20 years now, it’s possible I just don’t remember us meeting if it was many years ago.