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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on September 24, 2019, 04:49:51 PM

Title: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Little Joe on September 24, 2019, 04:49:51 PM
It sounds bad.  Judge Nap on Fox is saying it was a crime.

Problem is, nobody had heard the tape of the conversation yet.  That will come tomorrow.  I hope it is a rerun of the Mueller investigation, but part of me is afraid Trump really stepped in it this time.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 24, 2019, 05:19:31 PM
It sounds bad.  Judge Nap on Fox is saying it was a crime.

Problem is, nobody had heard the tape of the conversation yet.  That will come tomorrow.  I hope it is a rerun of the Mueller investigation, but part of me is afraid Trump really stepped in it this time.

Yet another huge nothing burger. 

The dims can’t find anyone who can beat Trump next year.   Trump’s polling numbers are at their highest ever.  The IG report on FISA abuse is due any day. 

 Now we have a “whistleblower” who said Trump tried to get asked a foreign leader to investigate Biden’s corrupt son.  Yet the whistleblower has now admitted he didn’t actually hear the conversation, only second hand information (hearsay).  Congress hasn’t seen the transcript. 

So we have a congress ready to impeach on hearsay evidence.  Right. 

Notice that Pelosi only said there would be an inquiry?  Notice Pelosi hasn’t called for a vote in the house?   Why is that?  Well, if Pelosi calls a vote, dem house members who are in red districts will ensure their defeat come 2020. 

C’mon Nancy!   Call the vote!   I dare ya!

Oh, “Judge” Napalitano?   He’s a fuckin’ liberal hack. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Little Joe on September 24, 2019, 05:28:14 PM
Yet another huge nothing burger. 

The dims can’t find anyone who can beat Trump next year.   Trump’s polling numbers are at their highest ever.  The IG report on FISA abuse is due any day. 

 Now we have a “whistleblower” who said Trump tried to get asked a foreign leader to investigate Biden’s corrupt son.  Yet the whistleblower has now admitted he didn’t actually hear the conversation, only second hand information (hearsay).  Congress hasn’t seen the transcript. 

So we have a congress ready to impeach on hearsay evidence.  Right. 

Notice that Pelosi only said there would be an inquiry?  Notice Pelosi hasn’t called for a vote in the house?   Why is that?  Well, if Pelosi calls a vote, dem house members who are in red districts will ensure their defeat come 2020. 

C’mon Nancy!   Call the vote!   I dare ya!

Oh, “Judge” Napalitano?   He’s a fuckin’ liberal hack.
Gut and recent history tell me you are right.  I hope so.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 24, 2019, 05:33:03 PM
They are desperate, don't have anything or there would be articles of impeachment already. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 24, 2019, 05:39:57 PM
They are desperate, don't have anything or there would be articles of impeachment already.

Even an impeachment inquiry requires an up/down vote in congress to proceed.  That hasn’t happened because they don’t have anything. 

The “evidence”?  An unknown whistleblower using second hand hearsay, which congress hasn’t even seen. 

Trump will release the full transcript tomorrow.  Nancy says that doesn’t matter, even if it doesn’t show anything. 

Unreal.

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 24, 2019, 06:00:54 PM
“This time?” You’ve fallen victim to the Dims’ strategy of keeping something, anything, in the public eye that is negative about the President, even if they have to make it up. Everyone I’d waiting for Trump to “step in it,” but he never does.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 24, 2019, 06:16:42 PM
Now several documents will be released tomorrow.  One of them is from the IG on the whistleblower, which will detail that this person is aligned with one of the dem candidates running for President.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Little Joe on September 24, 2019, 06:36:31 PM
“This time?” You’ve fallen victim to the Dims’ strategy of keeping something, anything, in the public eye that is negative about the President, even if they have to make it up. Everyone I’d waiting for Trump to “step in it,” but he never does.
I'm not sure why you think I have fallen victim because I said "this time".  I though it was perfectly obvious that the Dems have made up false charges many many times. 

I was just asking if this time is any different?  I guess we will see tomorrow.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: bflynn on September 24, 2019, 11:46:59 PM
I don’t think so. He has said there was no pressure. The president of Ukraine has said there was no pressure and no quid pro quo. As these were the two men having the conversation, I think it’s clear that the evidence doesn’t support impeachment.

In fact, the only evidence supporting it comes from a deep stater inside the intelligence community who didn’t ever hear the actual conversation.

No, I don’t think Trump is in trouble.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: jb1842 on September 25, 2019, 01:08:25 AM
At what point is all this rhetoric from the Dems cross the line into sedition? I think it has.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 25, 2019, 03:38:13 AM
At what point is all this rhetoric from the Dems cross the line into sedition? I think it has.

I think the Democrats, elements of the Media and perhaps individuals in the FBI and DOJ have been flirting with Sedition for over 2 1/2 years.  When you have a failed attempted Coup which this has been from the beginning, I don't see what else it can be. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: bflynn on September 25, 2019, 03:53:19 AM
I find it extreme to call the Democrat's partisanship "sedition".  Opposition is not sedition, it's just opposition.

I am more worried about the actual sedition out there when governments only enforce the laws they want to enforce, when they think they ought to be enforced.  That makes the United States a banana republic in fact.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Little Joe on September 25, 2019, 04:25:12 AM
I find it extreme to call the Democrat's partisanship "sedition".  Opposition is not sedition, it's just opposition.

I am more worried about the actual sedition out there when governments only enforce the laws they want to enforce, when they think they ought to be enforced.  That makes the United States a banana republic in fact.
This is going on while the President is addressing the UN on several very critical issues.  I am probing my failing memory for another recent attack on the President, thus diverting his attention and weakening his presence on the world stage as he was in the middle of a different international conference.  I think it was the G7 but I don't recall what that particular Dem attack was about.

When they keep doing this to the President at times like that, I do believe that can indeed be termed sedition or treason.  At lease with greater truthfulness than the Dems charges against the President.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 25, 2019, 04:34:19 AM
I find it extreme to call the Democrat's partisanship "sedition".  Opposition is not sedition, it's just opposition.

I am more worried about the actual sedition out there when governments only enforce the laws they want to enforce, when they think they ought to be enforced.  That makes the United States a banana republic in fact.

When you have a coordinated attempt to unseat a sitting President by the Democrats, Media, and elements of the FBI, and DOJ, using dubious and false information, I don't know what else to call it.  This is more than just partisan opposition, this is an unprecedented attempt to usurp control of the country.

The only worse coup was the assassination of JFK. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Little Joe on September 25, 2019, 04:35:31 AM
Does this surprise anyone:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-whistleblower-complaint-release-congress-white-house

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WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias,' official says

If true (as the Dems like to say about the most outrageous charges against Trump), wouldn't THAT amount to sedition?

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Sedition
Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent towards, or resistance against lawful authority.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 25, 2019, 04:56:42 AM
I find it extreme to call the Democrat's partisanship "sedition".  Opposition is not sedition, it's just opposition.

I am more worried about the actual sedition out there when governments only enforce the laws they want to enforce, when they think they ought to be enforced.  That makes the United States a banana republic in fact.

You mean like the Massachusetts Suffock County DA publishing a list of crimes that she won't prosecute?

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: nddons on September 25, 2019, 05:04:32 AM
Pelosi just guaranteed a landslide victory for Trump in 2020.

The people are sick and tired at the swamp trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2019, 05:47:25 AM
https://nypost.com/2019/09/24/goodwin-pelosis-impeachment-flip-flop-changes-everything/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2019, 06:11:30 AM
According to Drudge it's all but over for Trump..........
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 25, 2019, 06:15:25 AM
According to Drudge it's all but over for Trump..........

Which tells me Drudge is no longer an outlet to be trusted.  What was Fox News' major story on it?
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2019, 06:30:47 AM
Which tells be Drudge is no longer an outlet to be trusted.  What was Fox News' major story on it?

Matt Drudge has become an aggregator for left wing news sites.   He use to try to be fair by putting up stories from both sides, but he too has gone progressive looney.

Fox has reported more on the story, such as the IG finding the supposed whistleblower is a partisan hack with an agenda.

Tucker Carlson last night kept laughing at all of the absurdity surrounding the clown show.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2019, 06:33:02 AM
AOC is the defacto Speaker of the House.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Username on September 25, 2019, 06:35:59 AM
I think I heard that impeachment proceedings gives the House broad investigating powers that they didn't have earlier.  That means they can force Trump to give up his tax returns and pretty much all other evidence that to this point he could withhold.  While this particular set of "charges" may go nowhere, it's a means to collect more stuff to dig through to find somethingAnything.

And isn't this now a statement by the democrats that they would really rather have a President Pence?  Now THAT will bite them in the ass.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 25, 2019, 06:43:50 AM
Matt Drudge has become an aggregator for left wing news sites.   He use to try to be fair by putting up stories from both sides, but he too has gone progressive looney.

Fox has reported more on the story, such as the IG finding the supposed whistleblower is a partisan hack with an agenda.

Tucker Carlson last night kept laughing at all of the absurdity surrounding the clown show.

Exactly. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2019, 06:44:52 AM
I think I heard that impeachment proceedings gives the House broad investigating powers that they didn't have earlier.  That means they can force Trump to give up his tax returns and pretty much all other evidence that to this point he could withhold.  While this particular set of "charges" may go nowhere, it's a means to collect more stuff to dig through to find somethingAnything.

And isn't this now a statement by the democrats that they would really rather have a President Pence?  Now THAT will bite them in the ass.

Unless the speaker in name only, Pelosi introduces a vote to the floor for impeachment, the democrats can't proceed forward.   They can give it fancy names such as "Impeachment Inquiry" but in reality that has zero force, and they can't use that to force the president to do anything.   

 Nancy knows if she calls a vote (btw, the vote must have articles of impeachment attached, which they don't have) the vote will fail and the real speaker and her squad will go into meltdown and rage.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 25, 2019, 07:01:23 AM
I slept soundly. Because I read the President’s tweets! He tweeted about this!

Seriously, there’s probably a long, long list out there of ALL the claims the Dims have made against President Trump for almost three years now! ALL of which turned out to be untrue. From supposedly impeachable offenses (not) all the way down to improperly feeding koi in Japan and removing the portrait of MLK from the Oval Office. Not!

This is why, sadly, I’m losing respect for my liberal friends. They live in a strange land where what they want to happen somehow IS happening, but when truth slaps them in the face they shake their  heads dazedly and start looking for something else to validate their “truth.”
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 25, 2019, 07:05:06 AM
Enmity sells.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1176656567300587520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1176656567300587520&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.michellesmirror.com%2F
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2019, 07:08:32 AM
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“There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, what Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great,” Trump said in the call, according to NBC.

Trump added: “Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution, so if you can look into it, It sounds horrible to me.”

Trump only mentioned Biden once in the July 25 call, which lasted about 30 minutes and produced a five-page transcript, NBC reported.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/25/trump-asked-ukraine-president-if-you-can-look-into-biden-and-his-son-in-phone-call.html


 So now apparently by saying "if you could look into it" is a crime punishable by impeachment.

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 25, 2019, 07:17:09 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 25, 2019, 07:24:18 AM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/24/speaker-pelosi-bamboozles-base-by-announcing-enhanced-continuation-of-status-quo/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 25, 2019, 07:26:35 AM
The transcript. Yawn.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/analyze-this-39.php
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Number7 on September 25, 2019, 07:29:03 AM
There IS NOTHING THERE.

The real take away from it is the comment the President made about senile Joe bragging about getting teh Ukrainian prosecutor fired only eight minutes after barry the traitor ordered senile Joe to threaten them with cutting off their funding.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 25, 2019, 08:36:45 AM
Double standard much?

https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/5-4-18%20Menendez%20joint%20letter%20to%20General%20Prosecutor%20of%20Ukraine%20on%20Mueller%20investigation.pdf
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Mr Pou on September 25, 2019, 01:16:40 PM
Yet the media is now crowing about impeachment like it's now a done deal. I just don't get it. I really home the majority of people aren't stupid enough to swallow this crap.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 25, 2019, 01:27:36 PM
Yet the media is now crowing about impeachment like it's now a done deal. I just don't get it. I really home the majority of people aren't stupid enough to swallow this crap.

Yes, they are.  Just about every Media outlet is giving legitimacy to this non event.  Then we wonder why the Progressives believe it all and hate Trump so much.  The Media totally indoctrinates them.  The only outlets, I've heard a different, more realistic narrative are Fox News, Breitbart and possibly talk radio which I haven't heard for a while.  All small in comparison to CNN, NBC, MSNBC (Comcast), CBS, ABC, PBS, NYT, Washpo, AP, Reuters and the others. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: nddons on September 25, 2019, 01:44:33 PM
Unless the speaker in name only, Pelosi introduces a vote to the floor for impeachment, the democrats can't proceed forward.   They can give it fancy names such as "Impeachment Inquiry" but in reality that has zero force, and they can't use that to force the president to do anything.   

 Nancy knows if she calls a vote (btw, the vote must have articles of impeachment attached, which they don't have) the vote will fail and the real speaker and her squad will go into meltdown and rage.
You think the vote will fail in the House? 

Interesting. I think there Is a good chance of that myself. Of course the MSM is just saying it will fail in the Senate because of eeeeevil GOP control, ignoring the fact that some dem representatives are wise enough to know that an impeachment trial will guarantee a Trump landslide.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: nddons on September 25, 2019, 02:35:45 PM
Is it me, or did this Ukraine thing happen in about 8 seconds?

3 years of special council investigations and constant impeachment threats and they got nothing.

1 story a few days ago about a possible whistleblower and THAT is all it takes to begin impeachment proceedings? 

What the fuck is really going on here? 

Look what the other hand is doing.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 25, 2019, 02:42:28 PM
Is it me, or did this Ukraine thing happen in about 8 seconds?

3 years of special council investigations and constant impeachment threats and they got nothing.

1 story a few days ago about a possible whistleblower and THAT is all it takes to begin impeachment proceedings? 

What the fuck is really going on here? 

Look what the other hand is doing.

Good point.  I think it is partially to get Biden out of the race, but also hurt Trump.  I just saw part of Trump's new conference from the U.N. conferences.  He answered questions WITH the President of Ukraine sitting right there, backing him up.  He NAILED IT.  He also called the media Fake News again.  Love it!
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 25, 2019, 03:54:29 PM
Meanwhile Trumps approval rating goes up.
Heard today that there is a law firm offering pro-bono representation of democrat whistle blowers. They have billboards around D.C.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2019, 05:30:49 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/must-see-fake-news-liberal-media-slander-president-trump-again-lie-and-omit-500-words-from-transcript-to-implicate-trump-in-zelensky-call/

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The Mainstream Media (MSM) is dead.  They refuse to report the truth.  They cannot be trusted.
More Americans are waking up to their lies.  Today was another example of how the MSM will do anything to protect criminals on the left and indict heroes on the right.
They will stop at nothing.  No lie is too big to tell.

The mainstream media is evil.

On Wednesday after the release of the Trump-Zelensky transcript. The liberal media purposely omitted nearly 500 words in the transcript to implicate President Trump.  The media lied and said Trump asked Zelensky “a favor” to look into Joe Biden’s crimes.  This is absolutely false.  Trump was asking Zelensky to look into the 2016 election.

These people are evil.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2019, 06:12:38 PM
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 25, 2019, 06:22:56 PM
Shep Smith is a big time Liberal and Napolitono is supposed to be a Libertarian, although I believe he's a never Trumper.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 25, 2019, 06:25:29 PM
Shep Smith is a big time Liberal and Napolitono is supposed to be a Linertarian, although I believe he's a never Trumper.

You got that right Eppy.  I heard a rumor Napolitano was upset at Trump for not getting a SCOTUS appointment. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: bflynn on September 25, 2019, 08:52:25 PM
The Democrats think the timing is right. I’ve said before they intended to use impeachment as a campaign strategy, so that every day the president is campaigning, the media gets to just keep saying impeach, impeach, impeach. Well, here we are and the Democrat’s obviously transparent strategy is to milk this for the next 14 months with hearings in the House.  It won’t be killed or referred to a vote until the election is decided, probably mid November.

Personally, I think this backfires on them.  Republicans now get to say “they have used their power to advance their power, not to do anything for you. Nothing got done because they held hearings all the time.”  And nobody except the fanatic left wants to hear this.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 26, 2019, 02:08:15 AM
The Democrats think the timing is right. I’ve said before they intended to use impeachment as a campaign strategy, so that every day the president is campaigning, the media gets to just keep saying impeach, impeach, impeach. Well, here we are and the Democrat’s obviously transparent strategy is to milk this for the next 14 months with hearings in the House.  It won’t be killed or referred to a vote until the election is decided, probably mid November.

Personally, I think this backfires on them.  Republicans now get to say “they have used their power to advance their power, not to do anything for you. Nothing got done because they held hearings all the time.”  And nobody except the fanatic left wants to hear this.

I heard some sound bites from Democrats even, saying they don’t want to hear endless talk of impeachment unless there was real evidence, and there isn’t any. I just hope enough voters get disgusted with the Dems to forsake them in 2020.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 05:27:16 AM
I heard some sound bites from Democrats even, saying they don’t want to hear endless talk of impeachment unless there was real evidence, and there isn’t any. I just hope enough voters get disgusted with the Dems to forsake them in 2020.

 The radical progressives are the ones demanding impeachment, and they are the ones that understand it the least.  They are being pushed by the defacto Speaker AOC.   Pelosi has lost control.

BTW, Nancy has announced that she will seek the speakership yet again next congress.   Think about that.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 05:37:45 AM
https://libertyhub.com/ukraine-whistleblowers-attorney-used-to-work-for-both-chuck-schumer-hillary-clinton/

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     One of the attorneys representing the person who anonymously filed a complaint against President Donald Trump claiming Trump asked Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter has a resume that includes working for Senators Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.).

    As The Federalist reports, “Andrew Bakaj, now a managing partner at the Compass Rose Legal Group, interned for Schumer in the spring of 2001 and for Clinton in the fall of the same year, according to Bakaj’s LinkedIn page.”

    The Federalist notes that Bakaj’s resume also includes stints at the CIA and Pentagon and specializing in whistleblower and security clearances.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/attorney-for-anti-trump-whistleblower-worked-for-hillary-clinton-chuck-schumer/

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The anonymous person who filed a formal, uncorroborated complaint against President Donald Trump for allegedly asking a foreign leader to investigate corruption related to Joe Biden now has a legal team that includes a Democratic operative who worked for Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.).

Andrew Bakaj, now a managing partner at the Compass Rose Legal Group, interned for Schumer in the spring of 2001 and for Clinton in the fall of the same year, according to Bakaj’s LinkedIn page. More recently, Bakaj has worked as an official in the CIA and Pentagon and specializes in whistleblower and security clearances in his legal practice.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 05:45:02 AM
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/how-the-house-plans-to-use-its-inquiry-to-instigate-impeachment/

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Exhibit A in the upcoming impeachment proceedings, if you believe Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), is this transcript of a phone call between President Trump and the president of Ukraine. Anyone capable of passing a middle school civics test already knows an “impeachment inquiry” of the kind Democrats have announced is only step one in the process.

In a Senate with 47 non-Republicans, the “get Trump” forces must convince 20 Republican senators to vote to expel the president for a House impeachment effort to succeed. This is because Article I of the Constitution requires that two-thirds of senators vote to convict to expel the president. If all 100 senators are present, 67 must vote to get rid of Trump. This seems impossible based upon the current state of affairs.

So what is behind the coordinated media and Democrat campaign to drum up an “impeachment inquiry”? In one 24-hour period, the media rolled out the same Trump-Ukraine story with the same angle and often the same talking points within the same few hours on CNN, the Intelligencer, The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Guardian, Vox, Vanity Fair, and The Daily Beast, to name a few examples.

More tellingly, the phrase “in plain sight” appears over and over again in the supposedly independent media outlets that, in theory, wrote the articles at the same time, making it difficult or impossible for them to have directly copied from each other. Google search results bury the first dissenting coverage near the bottom of the second page. Of course they’re colluding with each other and coordinating with Democrats, but that’s another article for a different day.

To understand the significance of an “impeachment inquiry,” we need to go back to a blitz of document requests that House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrod Nadler sent in March 2019. Nadler sent requests to a withering list of 81 government officials, citizens, corporations, and probably a few zoo animals and cartoon characters. Each included a “schedule” of requested documents designed to burden and harass each of the unlucky recipients. The one to the White House requested a huge list of document categories, including any documents furnished to the special counsel team.

Since at least March, Nadler and other House Democrats have engaged in a public fight with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to force the House into a formal impeachment proceeding. Rep. Ro Khanna explained Nadler’s strategy: “What happens next is dependent on the courts. If the courts rule against the administration and the administration defies a court order, then I think it is a full-blown crisis.”
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 05:53:58 AM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gv092419dAPR20190924084526.jpg)

(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/bg092319dAPR20190922064509.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 09:24:26 AM
The "whistleblower" complaint.   A work of fiction and misdirection, carefully lawyer written.  Notice the similarities of style to the Mueller Report.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/09/26/the-whistleblower-complaint-is-out-n2553748

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  The House Intelligence Committee has released the whistleblower complaint against President Trump which accuses him of threatening to withhold military aid from Ukraine if the government did not honor his request to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden.

It can be viewed here. The complainant outlines his "urgent concern" about the call he heard about between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. He was relying on what he heard "from multiple U.S. government officials" to conclude that Trump "is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country to investigate one the President's main domestic political rivals." The complainant also names Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Attorney General Bill Barr as accomplices.

Although the whistleblower was not a direct witness, he or she found these colleagues' accounts to be credible because, "in almost all cases, multiple officials recounted fact patterns that were consistent with one another." The complainant adds that they were "deeply disturbed" by what they heard.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 26, 2019, 09:30:34 AM
Quote
Although the whistleblower was not a direct witness, he or she found these colleagues' accounts to be credible because, "in almost all cases, multiple officials recounted fact patterns that were consistent with one another." The complainant adds that they were "deeply disturbed" by what they heard.

My God, does anybody buy this crap?  "The accounts are credible because they are similar to all the other lies we tell."
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 09:32:12 AM
My God, does anybody buy this crap?  "The accounts are credible because they are similar to all the other lies we tell."

Mueller report was full of this crap.   Right out of the playbook.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2019, 09:37:17 AM
The Democrat Party has the integrity of the 1930's Nazi Party, and that's not hyperbole.  They are using every tactic including employing the Brown Shirts like Antifa, and BLM.  Watch for the "White Nationalist" false flag attacks with the Media touting Antifa and BLM for "defending themselves". 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 09:38:33 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/schiff-rewrites-trump-transcript-so-it-says-what-the-california-congressman-wishes-it-said/

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Midway through his opening statement, the California Democrat decided to deliver a “parody” of what transpired in a July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.

“What happened on the call?” Schiff said.
 

“Zelensky begins by ingratiating himself, and he tries to enlist the support of the president. He expresses his interest in meeting the president and says his country wants to acquire more weapons to defend itself. And what is the president’s response? Well, it reads like a classic organized crime shakedown. Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates.”

Then Schiff played Trump as a mafioso. ” ‘We’ve been very good to your country, very good, no other country has done as much as we have, but you know what, I don’t see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you, though. And I’m going to say this only seven times, so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand, lots of it, on this and on that. I’m going to put you in touch with people, not just any people, I’m going to put you in touch with the Attorney General of the United States, my Attorney General Bill Barr. He’s got the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him. And I’m going to put you in touch with Rudy — you’re going to love him, trust me. You know what I’m asking, and so I’m only going to say this a few more times in a few more ways. And by the way, don’t call me again, I’ll call you when you’ve done what I’ve asked.’

“This is in sum and character what the president was trying to communicate with the president of Ukraine. It would be funny if it wasn’t such a graphic betrayal of the president’s oath of office,” Schiff said.

But that’s not what transpired in the [phone call — not even close.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 09:42:04 AM
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 10:06:06 AM
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 11:28:46 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/09/26/watch-rep-elise-stefanik-shades-chairman-schiff-at-dni-hearing-n2553774

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On Thursday, as the chairman was kicking off an Intelligence Committee hearing with Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire, he decided to improvise some parts of the phone transcript.

Schiff later explained that his version of events was simply a "summary of the president's call was meant to be, at least part, in parody."

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) was having none of it. She didn't wait to call the chairman out until their proceedings had finished. She took him to task right there.

"On page one - and I'm not going to improvise for parody purposes, like the chairman of this committee did," Stefanik said when she began to read the whistleblower complaint. "I'm going to quote it directly."

She went on to read the whistleblower's confession that he or she "was not a direct witness to most of the events described." Still, officials concluded that even though the complainant was relying on secondhand knowledge, it was "credible" enough to investigate.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 26, 2019, 11:53:19 AM
The Democrat Party has the integrity of the 1930's Nazi Party, and that's not hyperbole. They are using every tactic including employing the Brown Shirts like Antifa, and BLM.  Watch for the "White Nationalist" false flag attacks with the Media touting Antifa and BLM for "defending themselves".

THIS ^

And the Bolsheviks of 1917.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/30/russian-revolution-brought-100-years-evil/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 11:58:10 AM
Go read the communist manifesto and compare that to what the dims are campaigning on.   It's a real eye opener.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2019, 12:08:44 PM
And Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" which was an offshoot of the Communist Manifesto.  I am convinced the Democrats are run and funded by Globalists such as George Soros and others like him.  Greta Thunberg, and the Man Made Climate Change movement is also funded by them and is their major vehicle for wealth and income distribution, and the destruction of American sovereignty.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 26, 2019, 12:13:07 PM
I'm listening to news bites.  It's surreal... they aren't spinning it... they are out right LYING.  I've never seen anything like this in my life. They're just making shit up out of thin air. Dear Jesus PLEASE God don't let the idiot young millenials buy all this shit.  So unreal.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2019, 12:21:13 PM
I'm listening to news bites.  It's surreal... they aren't spinning it... they are out right LYING.  I've never seen anything like this in my life. They're just making shit up out of thin air. Dear Jesus PLEASE God don't let the idiot young millenials buy all this shit.  So unreal.

And that's 98% of the Media, Social Media, and the entertainment shows they watch, hosted by comedians that present their drivel as facts and "news".  All anti Trump and anti Republican.  If it is not 100% Woke, SJW, PC, MMGW CRAP they don't want it. 

It is scary, because they've been brainwashed.  Goebbels would be envious. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 26, 2019, 12:41:14 PM
I'm listening to news bites.  It's surreal... they aren't spinning it... they are out right LYING.  I've never seen anything like this in my life. They're just making shit up out of thin air. Dear Jesus PLEASE God don't let the idiot young millenials buy all this shit.  So unreal.

Wait, it's not really a lie if they really believe it, right?  It's not really a lie if they don't intend to deceive, right?

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Mr Pou on September 26, 2019, 01:30:30 PM
And that's 98% of the Media, Social Media, and the entertainment shows they watch, hosted by comedians that present their drivel as facts and "news".  All anti Trump and anti Republican.  If it is not 100% Woke, SJW, PC, MMGW CRAP they don't want it. 

It is scary, because they've been brainwashed.  Goebbels would be envious.

And Like I've opined before, as "we" start to die off, this country is going to be fundamentally changed just as BHO promised. I sure hope these kids enjoy the bill of goods they've been sold.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2019, 01:44:50 PM
And Like I've opined before, as "we" start to die off, this country is going to be fundamentally changed just as BHO promised. I sure hope these kids enjoy the bill of goods they've been sold.


I do too.  When they realize they've been scammed, they may change their tune, but it will be too late.  Drastic measures will have to be taken, but they will have neither the tools, nor the training to do it. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 03:59:55 PM
Wait, it's not really a lie if they really believe it, right?  It's not really a lie if they don't intend to deceive, right?


I just spewed diet root beer all over my keyboard....................thanks... ;D
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 04:13:52 PM
https://www.scribd.com/user/259237201/JohnSolomon?campaign=VigLink&ad_group=xxc1xx&source=hp_affiliate&medium=affiliate

400 pages of documents detailing the Bidens involvement with the Ukraine gas company.   Also statements from the prosecutor that Joe Biden demanded be fired for investigating his son.


https://therightscoop.com/audio-mark-levin-interviews-john-solomon-about-biden-and-big-news-story-breaking-tomorrow
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 04:18:20 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/86-things-democrats-have-cited-as-reasons-to-impeach-trump/


86 Things Democrats Have Cited As Reasons To Impeach Trump




Quote
1    For potentially ignoring court orders on his travel ban    02/01/2017    MSNBC    Joaquin Castro
2    Because "we have to"    02/06/2017    Grabien    Maxine Waters
3    For "creating chaos and division"    02/06/2017    CNN    Maxine Waters
4    For potentially supplying damaging information    02/20/2017    MSNBC    Jerry Nadler
5    For trying to "undermine Hillary Clinton and therefore undermine our democracy"    03/23/2017    Grabien    Maxine Waters
6    Because his "motives and actions are contemptible"    04/15/2017    NTK Network    Maxine Waters
7    For "collusion"    05/11/2017    MSNBC    Maxine Waters
8    Because "he regards himself as above the law"    05/14/2017    ABC    Lawrence Tribe
9    For firing Comey    05/15/2017    MSNBC    Al Green
10    For allegedly disclosing classified info to Russia    05/16/2017    The Washington Free Beacon    Maxine Waters
11    For Comey saying Trump asked him to drop Flynn probe    05/17/2017    MSNBC    Jerry Nadler
12    For being "mentally unstable"    05/22/2017    MSNBC    Ron Reagan
13    Because they've been able to "connect the dots"    05/28/2017    MSNBC    Maxine Waters
14    Because "a plurality of polls" supports it    06/07/2017    ABC News    Al Green
15    For being "abnormal" and possibly "crazy"    07/07/2017    NTK Network    Maxine Waters
16    For banning transgenders from serving in the military    10/11/2017    Grabien    Al Green
17    For "disrespecting and disparaging women"    10/11/2017    CSPAN    Al Green
18    For saying NFL athletes should stand for the national anthem    10/19/2017    CSPAN    Al Green
19    For being "friends" with Putin    10/24/2017    CNN    Maxine Waters
20    For being "a clear and present danger" to Americans    10/25/2017    MSNBC    Tom Steyer
21    For "putting the health and safety of Americans at risk"    10/28/2017    MSNBC    Tom Steyer
22    For being an "inciter" of "ethnocentrism"    11/08/2017    CSPAN    Al Green
23    For promoting "xenophobia"    11/08/2017    CSPAN    Al Green
24    For inciting "bigotry"    11/08/2017    CSPAN    Al Green
25    For being an "inciter" of "hatred"    11/08/2017    CSPAN    Al Green
26    For "undermining the federal judiciary"    11/15/2017    Grabien    Steve Cohen
27    For mocking a disabled journalist    11/16/2017    Bloomberg    Maxine Waters
28    For the "Access Hollywood" tape    11/16/2017    Bloomberg    Maxine Waters
29    For "threatening the media"    11/18/2017    MSNBC    John Yarmuth
30    For "taking money from foreign governments"    11/26/2017    CNN    Tom Steyer
31    For "dereliction of duty"    12/03/2017    MSNBC    Ted Lieu
32    For being incompetent    12/04/2017    MSNBC    Ezra Klein
33    For bringing "dishonor" upon the United States    12/06/2017    CSPAN    Al Green
34    For being "psychologically deranged"    12/16/2017    MSNBC    Richard Painter
35    For being "racist, sexist, and Islamaphobic"    12/30/2017    MSNBC    Anushay Hossain
36    For not believing in the Constitution    12/30/2017    MSNBC    Karine Jean-Pierre
37    For being "unfit" for office    01/08/2018    MSNBC    Tom Steyer
38    For saying some countries are "shitholes"    01/14/2018    MSNBC    Al Green
39    For his aides talking to Russians    01/26/2018    CNN    Cory Booker
40    For urging Sessions to investigate Hillary    02/28/2018    MSNBC    Chris Hayes
41    For not being respectful    03/04/2018    MSNBC    Maxine Waters
42    For being "the most dangerous president in American history"    03/05/2018    MSNBC    Tom Perez
43    For name calling    03/12/2018    MSNBC    Maxine Waters
44    For A.G. Sessions firing Andrew McCabe    03/16/2018    MSNBC    Danny Cevallos
45    For violating the "emoluments clause"    03/20/2018    MSNBC    Tom Steyer
46    For possibly considering "firing" Mueller    03/23/2018    CNN    Ted Lieu
47    For being "unwilling to make it clear" Russians can't hack America's "critical infrastructure"    03/26/2018    MSNBC    John Garamendi
48    For being "unworthy" and "despicable"    03/27/2018    MSNBC    Maxine Waters
49    Because "we have the grounds to do it"    06/27/2018    CNN    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
50    For staffing Trump Tower with park rangers    01/16/2019    MSNBC    Rashida Tlaib
51    For the BuzzFeed report on Cohen    01/18/2019    MSNBC    Eugene Robinson
52    For the "so many things" he has done    01/20/2019    MSNBC    Maxine Waters
53    Because Virginia's governor wore blackface    02/08/2019    CSPAN    Al Green
54    To prevent his re-election    05/04/2019    MSNBC    Al Green
55    Because the "system of checks and balances is at risk"    05/15/2019    C-SPAN    Al Green
56    To prevent a "monarchy"    05/15/2019    C-SPAN    Al Green
57    For not releasing his tax returns    05/16/2019    Campaign Ad    Tom Steyer
58    To put a "stain" on his presidency    05/25/2019    MSNBC    Karine Jean-Pierre
59    Because it's "critical to our national security"    05/27/2019    MSNBC    Richard Painter
60    Because it would be "crazy not to do it"    05/30/2019    CNN    John Hickenlooper
61    In order to "set a precedent" for future presidents    06/01/2019    MSNBC    Karine Jean-Pierre
62    Because we have a "moral obligation"    06/02/2019    CNN    Cory Booker
63    Because it will help "educate" and "inform" the American public    06/03/2019    MSNBC    Mike Quigley
64    Because the president "is leaving us no choice"    06/04/2019    CNN    Dan Kildee
65    Because it's our "constitutional duty" to "have this debate"    06/08/2019    MSNBC    Seth Moulton
66    For failing to "produce evidence"    06/10/2019    CNN    Steve Cohen
67    For saying the press is the "enemy of the people"    06/10/2019    CNN    Steve Cohen
68    For saying he'd take "dirt" on rivals from foreigners    06/13/2019    CNN    Steve Cohen
69    For Kellyanne Conway's alleged Hatch Act violation    06/14/2019    MSNBC    Richard Painter
70    To ensure Robert Mueller's work is continued    06/19/2019    NTK Network    Katie Porter
71    For being "above the law"    07/11/2019    C-SPAN    Al Green
72    For "inhumane" conditions at the border    07/15/2019    MSNBC    Rashida Tlaib
73    For "high crimes and misdemeanors"    07/15/2019    MSNBC    Ilhan Omar
74    For administration officials defying congressional subpoenas    07/16/2019    C-SPAN    Ann Kirkpatrick
75    For saying fellow Americans should "go back to other countries"    07/17/2019    C-SPAN    Al Green
76    For Trump crowd's "send her back" chant    07/18/2019    CNN    Al Green
77    For attacks on the judiciary    07/19/2019    MSNBC    Steve Cohen
78    Because we're in a "constitutional crisis"    07/25/2019    C-SPAN    Al Green
79    For offering to host G7 summit at Doral    08/31/2019    MSNBC    House Judiciary Committee
80    For influencing the decision of the new FBI building's location    08/31/2019    MSNBC    Mike Quigley
81    For publicising his own assets    08/31/2019    MSNBC    Mike Quigley
82    For suggesting a company for Army Corps to award wall production contract    08/31/2019    MSNBC    Richard Painter
83    For talking like Hitler    08/31/2019    MSNBC    Richard Painter
84    Because every new impeachable offense makes it harder to take action    08/31/2019    MSNBC    David Cicilline
85    For investigating Hunter Biden    09/22/2019    CNN    Adam Schiff
86    For "hijacking" American foreign policy    09/23/2019    MSNBC    Chris Hayes
87    For betraying his oath of office    09/24/2019    Politico    Nancy Pelosi
88    For "coercing" a foreign government    09/25/2019    MSNBC    Matthew Miller
89    For "extorting" a foreign government    09/25/2019    MSNBC    Matthew Miller   
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2019, 04:51:25 PM
^^^^^What a list of absolute CRAP.  And look at the media outlets.  CNN, MSNBC, ABC, BLOOMBERG.  Democrat Propaganda. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 26, 2019, 05:57:34 PM
Schiff knew what he was doing. His opening will be used everywhere but on Fox News and people will take it as truth since none of the other media outlets will talk about it being purely fiction.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 06:05:03 PM
Schiff knew what he was doing. His opening will be used everywhere but on Fox News and people will take it as truth since none of the other media outlets will talk about it being purely fiction.

 That's exactly why he did it, was for the news media sound bites.  And you are correct, the MSM will run with it and play it over and over.

 "I can see Russia from my house!"
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 06:15:44 PM
All of this has been crafted, just like the Steele Dossier.

The whistleblower complaint?  Written by a lawyer.  Very easy to tell.  Start putting all the pieces together on this, and you'll see just how manufactured this has been.

 What the dims didn't count on was Trump releasing the transcript of the call.  They really believed he would use executive privilege. So now that has been released, the lawyer crafted "whistleblower complaint" which is based upon hearsay evidence and is full of false information, but the dims find it "credible".

 I hate to say or think it, but what's next for these crazed people?
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 06:17:24 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/that-was-quick-state-department-already-refutes-partisan-anti-trump-whistleblowers-report-says-senior-counselor-brechbuhl-was-not-on-ukrainian-call-video/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 06:36:22 PM
https://clashdaily.com/2019/09/dear-cnn-these-dem-senators-wrote-a-letter-to-ukraine-to-find-dirt-on-trump-should-they-be-impeached/





(https://clashdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Screen-Shot-2019-09-25-at-2.40.45-PM.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2019, 06:40:04 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/complaint-from-so-called-whistleblower-is-riddled-with-gossip-blatant-falsehoods/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Mr Pou on September 27, 2019, 04:44:39 AM
I'm just aghast at the blatant railroading of the American people. Whoever is leading this campaign against the American way is far more villianous than any James Bond type character times ten.

I really just can't believe it, they control everything, including our media. People better wake the fuck up, fast...
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 27, 2019, 04:53:21 AM
an old adage:

Don't ascribe to malice than can be explained by stupidity.

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 27, 2019, 04:55:09 AM
I'm just aghast at the blatant railroading of the American people. Whoever is leading this campaign against the American way is far more villianous than any James Bond type character times ten.

I really just can't believe it, they control everything, including our media. People better wake the fuck up, fast...

I keep harping on this.  All the institutions, public and private have embraced the Far Left Progressive, "Woke", PC, SJW mentality.  All anti the American values that made the U.S. successful.  It is a purposeful dismantling of freedom, liberty, and all the purposes this country was created in the first place.

I am convinced it is a Globalist elite push to reduce and eliminate American sovereignty.  Look at the backers of Greta Thunberg.  Soros at the center.   
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Mr Pou on September 27, 2019, 05:07:42 AM
an old adage:

Don't ascribe to malice than can be explained by stupidity.

Maybe I'm donning too much of a tin foil hat, but there's more to this than random stupidity. This is an organized assault on nearly all media fronts. Remember the 5th column from WWII? This is that, only even more skillful.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 27, 2019, 05:30:42 AM
I keep harping on this.  All the institutions, public and private have embraced the Far Left Progressive, "Woke", PC, SJW mentality.  All anti the American values that made the U.S. successful.  It is a purposeful dismantling of freedom, liberty, and all the purpose this country was created in the first place.

I am convinced it is a Globalist elite push to reduce and eliminate American sovereignty.  Look at the backers of Greta Thunberg.  Soros at the center.

Grammar police here: Congratulations, you used the word “purposeful” correctly.

Quick lesson: Purposely vs Purposefully

Purposely: Done deliberately as opposed to unintentionally

Purposefully: Done with an end goal in mind; done with determination

Examples:

“The MSM purposely misrepresents everything Trump says.”

“The MSM propagandizes purposefully every single day.”

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 27, 2019, 06:00:52 AM
Maybe I'm donning too much of a tin foil hat, but there's more to this than random stupidity. This is an organized assault on nearly all media fronts. Remember the 5th column from WWII? This is that, only even more skillful.

You're not.

If this was the first "controversy" to come up in the Trump presidency, then yeah, maybe it's just stupid. But there has been an ongoing assault by the Left, and I mean virtually all Democrats and the Never Trumper "Republicans", since DJT won the GOP nomination. They haven't been investigating real charges, they have been investigating charges they've manufactured out of their warped minds.

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2019, 06:01:51 AM
Lots of Democrats, including many of today's party leaders, stood up when Bill Clinton was impeached to give impassioned speeches about the perils of taking away the American people's choice. Here's today's impeachment ringleader, Rep. Jerry Nadler, in 1998:

    "The impeachment of a president is an undoing of a national election. And one of the reasons we all feel so angry about what they are doing is that they are ripping asunder our votes. They are telling us that our votes don't count."


And here's Nancy Pelosi in 1998 on the hatred behind the Clinton impeachment push:

    "Today, the Republican majority is not judging the president with fairness but impeaching him with a vengeance ... We are here today because the Republicans in the House are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton. And until the Republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer."

Sadly, Nadler and Pelosi were right in 1998. Republicans should not have impeached Clinton, and they paid the price. Democrats today hate Trump. It's not about justice or truth. What they care about is winning the 2020 presidential election. Democratic leaders have decided that impeaching Trump is essential if they're going to win next year. So they're staking everything on this bizarre, flimsy scandal that the rest of us can barely understand.

https://townhall.com/columnists/tuckercarlsonandneilpatel/2019/09/27/understanding-the-impeachment-charade-n2553796
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Little Joe on September 27, 2019, 06:04:49 AM
I'm just aghast at the blatant railroading of the American people. Whoever is leading this campaign against the American way is far more villianous than any James Bond type character times ten.

I really just can't believe it, they control everything, including our media. People better wake the fuck up, fast...
The Dems, through their hypocrisy, have been able to keep much of Wall Street on their side.  The Dems talked tough on wealth but submitted to their lobbying and bribery to protect those that would share the wealth with them.  But now comes Elizabeth Warren who is so idealistic and stubborn, even the Wall Street folks (and big Dem contributors) are saying if she gets the Democratic nomination they will either sit the election out or support Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/wall-street-democratic-donors-eye-trump-as-elizabeth-warren-picks-up-steam

Maybe I will switch to D affiliation so I can vote for Warren in the primary.
402+ days left to Nov 3, 2020
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?p0=263&iso=20201103T00&msg=2020%20US%20Presidential%20Election
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 27, 2019, 06:13:29 AM
Go Lizzie! One wonders what the tipping point is or will be for the Dims as the bizarreness factor escalates!

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/as_biden_falters_hillary_attacks_trump_and_positions_herself_to_enter_presidential_race.html

“Trump is a corrupt human tornado,” says one of the most corrupt pols in living memory.


Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 27, 2019, 06:13:38 AM
^^^^^I believe Warren cut a deal with Wall Street.  They've agreed she can bash them during the election in a populist "for the people" manner.  Once elected, they will "come to terms" and nothing will change for the rich elite.  Oh, there may be a nominal tax on transactions for you and me, but nothing big, and nothing that will effect the big players. 

Firms like Goldman Sachs only support Democrats.  They did with Obama and Hilary and will do so for the Democrat nominee including Warren.  I think Wall Street and the DNC sees Biden as to old, white, male, frail and senile.  Unable to mount a real campaign against Trump. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 27, 2019, 06:21:05 AM
The Dems, through their hypocrisy, have been able to keep much of Wall Street on their side.  The Dems talked tough on wealth but submitted to their lobbying and bribery to protect those that would share the wealth with them.  But now comes Elizabeth Warren who is so idealistic and stubborn, even the Wall Street folks (and big Dem contributors) are saying if she gets the Democratic nomination they will either sit the election out or support Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/wall-street-democratic-donors-eye-trump-as-elizabeth-warren-picks-up-steam

Maybe I will switch to D affiliation so I can vote for Warren in the primary.
402+ days left to Nov 3, 2020
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?p0=263&iso=20201103T00&msg=2020%20US%20Presidential%20Election

Wow, what a dilemma. I was gonna vote for Biden in the primary but it’s looking like he will already be history by then. Don’t know if I can pull it for Warren, but if she is the only candidate Wall Street will go against for Trump, maybe I should.

I wonder how much Wall Street matters in an election.

Who am I kidding, I don’t think I could do it. I would hurl right there at the polls.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2019, 06:44:30 AM
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2019, 06:49:43 AM
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: bflynn on September 27, 2019, 06:50:37 AM
Taking a random break from the hysteria of the politics, enjoy this Secret deodorant ad, placed the day after Tampa kicker Matt Gay missed a 34 yard field goal which would have won the game.


(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3891.0;attach=1163)
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2019, 07:21:43 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/09/27/president-trumps-calls-on-adam-schiff-to-resign-n2553808

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President Trump called on House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff to resign Friday morning. He also believes the congressman should be investigated after entering false and fake testimony into the congressional record during a hearing Thursday morning with Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2019, 07:27:05 AM
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/when_hillary_clinton_colluded_with_ukraine.html

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  So now we have a whistleblower who isn’t because he cannot be, either from his circumstance or from the law. He or she had no firsthand knowledge, weren’t on the call or in the room, and in any case cannot blow the whistle on a unitary executive, namely President Trump. You can only be a whistleblower for an agency you are a member of. We have a quid without a quo and a phone conversation in which President Trump did not pressure a Ukrainian leader into a crime Joe Biden has previously confessed to, namely threatening to withhold a loan guarantee unless the Ukrainian government fires a prosecutor looking into a company that was paying Hunter Biden, a man with no special knowledge of Ukraine or the business, $600,0000 a year.

As Trump lawyer and former New York mayor Rudy Guiliani points out, the phone transcript makes Trump the whistleblower and Biden the criminal in a Ukrainian collusion saga that leads to Hillary Clinton and not Donald Trump. As Giulian states in an interview with Fox News’ John Roberts:

    The reality is, the distinction is this. What they are trying to say is, I went there for a political mission to kind of get Joe Biden in trouble.

    Ridiculous.

    I went there as a lawyer defending his client. I -- I have known about this for five months. I have been trying to get people to cover this for five months. So, I knew it would be very, very hard to get this out.

    And what I'm talking about, this, it's Ukrainian collusion, which was large, significant, and proven with Hillary Clinton, with the Democratic National Committee, a woman named Chalupa, with the ambassador, with an FBI agent who's now been hired by George Soros who was funding a lot of it.


If you want real collusion with a real trail of evidence of people trying to do real things interfering with our elections, particularly the 2016 campaign, try Hillary Clinton’s real collusion with Ukraine to derail and besmirch Team Trump. As Politico reported in a story that went nowhere at the time:

    Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

    A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

    The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 27, 2019, 08:27:41 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/09/27/president-trumps-calls-on-adam-schiff-to-resign-n2553808

I love it. Trump not letting them get away with this crap.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2019, 08:47:13 AM
I love it. Trump not letting them get away with this crap.

Wouldn't be great if more republicans got behind him?
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2019, 08:48:13 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/new-evidence-shows-democrat-adam-schiff-likely-had-whistleblower-accusations-a-month-ago-team-used-to-create-junk-document/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 27, 2019, 08:50:53 AM
Wouldn't be great if more republicans got behind him?

That's a problem.  He's fighting many in his own party who never got over a non-establishment Repub got the nomination.  Plus he did call a lot of his primary opponents names, and their huge egos just don't respond to that well.  However, once he became the nominee then won the biggest upset in modern history, they should have totally rallied around him.

Romney is a big disappointment as are some of the others. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 27, 2019, 09:06:44 AM
Wouldn't be great if more republicans got behind him?

Better would be for people to stop lying about President Trump.  But I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 27, 2019, 09:57:47 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/limbaugh-turns-out-ukraine-whistleblower-was-deep-state-plant-from-the-cia

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On his radio show Thursday, Rush Limbaugh addressed the revelations from The New York Times about the identity of the “whistleblower” who sparked the controversy of President Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukraine’s president that has given the Democrats a rationale to move forward on their impeachment campaign.

According to the Times, the whistleblower is “a CIA officer detailed to the White House,” and, according to Paul Sperry, former D.C. bureau chief for Investor’s Business Daily,  rumors are “swirling” that the whistleblower was one of former CIA Director and current NBC analyst John Brennan’s “old CIA humps detailed over to — planted inside — the White House to spy on Trump and help thwart the investigation of #Spygate which also involves Obama DOS/FBI/CIA skullduggery in Ukraine.”

“This is part of the same intel cabal that ran the Russia collusion mess!” Limbaugh exclaimed after reading an excerpt of the Times’ report on the as-of-yet still anonymous whistleblower (transcript via RushLimbaugh.com). “So he was a CIA officer. He was a plant! He was a deep state plant from the CIA at the White House!”

“Okay, what does this prove?” Limbaugh said. “It proves the intelligence community is spying on the president. It proves it. Trump said it during the 2016 campaign. They laughed at him; they mocked him. They said, ‘You’re insane. You’re crazy. Nobody’s monitoring your calls. Nobody’s tapping your wires. The CIA’s not spying on you!’ Yes, they are. Not, ‘yes, they were.’ Yes, they are.”

“He ‘is a CIA officer detailed to the White House,’ meaning not a Trumper,” Rush continued. “This is somebody the CIA, the intel community, sent over there. This guy was put there as a spy and did his job … I knew the intel community was part of this — and, folks, nothing’s changed. Nothing’s new. It’s the same operation. They just failed to get Trump on Russia.”

“It’s the same theme! Trump interfered in the 2016 election. The Russians meddled; Trump colluded. The FBI tried to plant spies to prove this,” Limbaugh said before stressing something he’s stated repeatedly on his show: “It did happen because the meddling happened with the Democrats. The Democrats meddled and interfered by creating (the Hillary Clinton campaign buying) the Steele dossier.”

Along with the Times report, Limbaugh pointed to a tweet from Sperry, stating, “Rumors swirling the anti-Trump whistleblower was of Brennan’s old CIA humps detailed over to — planted inside — the White House to spy on Trump and help thwart the investigation of #Spygate which also involves Obama DOS/FBI/CIA skullduggery in Ukraine.”
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 27, 2019, 10:51:26 AM
Limbaugh said Kasich was on CNN this morning and was asked about impeachment. He said something about Trump not doing anything illegal and then told the anchor that the Democrats need to be careful because no one in Ohio is talking about it.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: azure on September 28, 2019, 06:52:13 AM
Late to this party, but the one glaring fact that I can't get over is that if the House Dems were to proceed with articles of impeachment, it would be political suicide. The Senate is still Republican controlled, the Senate is where the President would be tried, and Republicans still overwhelmingly support Trump. They have zero chance of getting a conviction, and would simply be handing Trump the biggest victory of his presidency so far. In the meantime their energy and the country's will be focused on something even Dem voters don't seem too enthused about. Instead of talking about issues that matter to voters, they'll be putting on a circus with a predetermined outcome and squandering whatever chance they have of beating Trump next year.

And I don't think that chance is small at this point... the polls so far do not support a Trump landslide. But if they continue down this path, I think that's almost sure to happen.

If I was a Democrat and paranoid, I'd suspect the whistleblower complaint was concocted as bait by the Trump campaign and the House Dems are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Number7 on September 28, 2019, 07:00:55 AM
So odd the exact same playbook has been used to attack President Trump as the swamp used in making up, fabricating evidence, committing perjury, and LOSING spectacularly with the fake fusion GPS  - Steele Dossier...

In that regard it's also the same playbook used in pushing the fake mmgw bullshit..

What is it with communists (democrats)? All they can do is lie and fabricate evidence to support heir delusions.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Little Joe on September 28, 2019, 07:13:04 AM
I understand why the dems don’t care a whit about the actual meat of this whole thing; the corrupt dealings of Biden and Hunter. What pissses me off is that the media is (predictably) ignoring it.

And what the hell kind of name is “Hunter” for a Democrat anyway?  That is like a Republican named Pansy.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 28, 2019, 07:24:17 AM
Late to this party, but the one glaring fact that I can't get over is that if the House Dems were to proceed with articles of impeachment, it would be political suicide. The Senate is still Republican controlled, the Senate is where the President would be tried, and Republicans still overwhelmingly support Trump. They have zero chance of getting a conviction, and would simply be handing Trump the biggest victory of his presidency so far. In the meantime their energy and the country's will be focused on something even Dem voters don't seem too enthused about. Instead of talking about issues that matter to voters, they'll be putting on a circus with a predetermined outcome and squandering whatever chance they have of beating Trump next year.

And I don't think that chance is small at this point... the polls so far do not support a Trump landslide. But if they continue down this path, I think that's almost sure to happen.

If I was a Democrat and paranoid, I'd suspect the whistleblower complaint was concocted as bait by the Trump campaign and the House Dems are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.

I think Pelosi is smart enough to know this, but she’s under pressure from the pathological far left, and I mean pathological in the literal sense. These people have a collective sociopathic personality disorder with delusional psychotic overtones. Their narcissism cannot handle the 2016 loss and they are still trying to reverse it at any cost. Pelosi knows an impeachment attempt will backfire but to appease the radicals she has opened an inquiry that she is fully aware will go nowhere, but makes it looks like she is full steam ahead to get rid of Trump. She needs to keep up appearances because she knows she is losing her grip on power.

These people are hyper focused on destroying Trump to the exclusion of all else. Their made up fantasy of Trump the Anti-Christ blinds them to reality.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 28, 2019, 07:34:01 AM
I understand why the dems don’t care a whit about the actual meat of this whole thing; the corrupt dealings of Biden and Hunter. What pissses me off is that the media is (predictably) ignoring it.

And what the hell kind of name is “Hunter” for a Democrat anyway?  That is like a Republican named Pansy.

LOL!  Well he was banging his brothers wife when they were still married, so...….

But Trump said the word p*ssy twenty years ago!

I still think this is an attempt by the Democrats to get Biden out of the race, so Warren can be the nominee.  Yes, it may be just my cynical side coming out, but it is obvious to everyone that this is a Joe and Hunter Biden scandal, not a Trump issue, but of course the Media is lying about it to smear Trump. 

Once the dust settles, I think the DNC will have the Media slowly talk about the payments Hunter Biden was/is receiving and Biden's pressure on the Ukraine when he was VP. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2019, 07:35:03 AM
I think Pelosi is smart enough to know this, but she’s under pressure from the pathological far left, and I mean pathological in the literal sense. These people have a collective sociopathic personality disorder with delusional psychotic overtones. Their narcissism cannot handle the 2016 loss and they are still trying to reverse it at any cost. Pelosi knows an impeachment attempt will backfire but to appease the radicals she has opened an inquiry that she is fully aware will go nowhere, but makes it looks like she is full steam ahead to get rid of Trump. She needs to keep up appearances because she knows she is losing her grip on power.

These people are hyper focused on destroying Trump to the exclusion of all else. Their made up fantasy of Trump the Anti-Christ blinds them to reality.


Nancy lost power right after taking the Speaker position in 2018.   AOC and her mob are the defacto Speakers now.

The DNC is lost to the radical progressives.   The moderate democrats (yes, they still exist) will have no choice but to move over to a third party and attempt to regroup.   And like their republican counterparts, they are remaining quiet to avoid the wrath of the radical progressives and their hate groups.

 I'll repost this here, Tucker once again nails it:

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2019, 07:38:31 AM
LOL!  Well he was banging his brothers wife when they were still married, so...….

But Trump said the word p*ssy twenty years ago!

I still think this is an attempt by the Democrats to get Biden out of the race, so Warren can be the nominee.  Yes, it may be just my cynical side coming out, but it is obvious to everyone that this is a Joe and Hunter Biden scandal, not a Trump issue, but of course the Media is lying about it to smear Trump. 

Once the dust settles, I think the DNC will have the Media slowly talk about the payments Hunter Biden was/is receiving and Biden's pressure on the Ukraine when he was VP.

 The progressives want Biden gone, period.  Smearing Trump in the process is only gravy.

 The DNC has become so radicalized that if a guy named Barrack Obama were to run today, with the platform he ran on in 2009, the progressives would torch him.  Think about it.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 28, 2019, 07:40:56 AM
The progressives want Biden gone, period.  Smearing Trump in the process is only gravy.

 The DNC has become so radicalized that if a guy named Barrack Obama were to run today, with the platform he ran on in 2009, the progressives would torch him.  Think about it.

Yes, Obama would probably be too moderate for them now.  However, once in office Obama did show his true colors which are more aligned with today's Democrat Radicals.  Fundamental Transformation is but one example. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2019, 07:48:03 AM
Yes, Obama would probably be too moderate for them now.  However, once in office Obama did show his true colors which are more aligned with today's Democrat Radicals.  Fundamental Transformation is but one example.

I'll disagree a bit.  True, what BHO ran on was not what he did in office.  But these progressives today are far more radical than what BHO did as president.   And that's saying a lot.

 Today's progressives are totally aligned with the Communist Manifesto.  Just go read their platforms and compare them to the pillars of communism.  Bernie has become an all out communist and is not afraid to admit it.  Pocahontas is aligned with the communist manifesto, and as an extra added bonus, is a total fuckin' loon.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 28, 2019, 07:50:53 AM
I'll disagree a bit.  True, what BHO ran on was not what he did in office.  But these progressives today are far more radical than what BHO did as president.   And that's saying a lot.

 Today's progressives are totally aligned with the Communist Manifesto.  Just go read their platforms and compare them to the pillars of communism.  Bernie has become an all out communist and is not afraid to admit it.  Pocahontas is aligned with the communist manifesto, and as an extra added bonus, is a total fuckin' loon.

Agreed.  BHO knew he couldn't run on his real ideals, but today's Democrats think they can run on Communism, and government totalitarian rule.  Illegals, voter fraud and Media brainwashing are how they think they can pull it off. 
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 28, 2019, 07:55:29 AM
Trump has a pinned tweet saying “I AM DRAINING THE SWAMP!” and the video of Biden bragging about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired.

POTUS is a fighter, and he has right on his side. I’m encouraged.

Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Rush on September 28, 2019, 08:20:58 AM

Nancy lost power right after taking the Speaker position in 2018.   AOC and her mob are the defacto Speakers now.

The DNC is lost to the radical progressives.   The moderate democrats (yes, they still exist) will have no choice but to move over to a third party and attempt to regroup.   And like their republican counterparts, they are remaining quiet to avoid the wrath of the radical progressives and their hate groups.


Can it happen? Can the party split?

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/will-the-democrats-split-into-2-parties-after-aocs-threats/


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They worry that the sweeping proposals and hardball tactics of liberal firebrands could alienate centrist voters in the 2020 election, even as they hold out hope that Democratic primary voters, focused on defeating President Trump, will check the party’s move to the left.
The moderates’ concerns came to a head this week when one of the newest Democratic stars appeared to threaten colleagues who would not toe the liberal line, raising the specter of a fracture in the party between moderates and purists, similar to a long-standing divide in the Republican Party.
Any way we slice and dice these numbers, they are all pointing to the same outcome — a rise in third-party activity. That also applies to the Democratic Party. There are serious fissures emerging behind the curtain that I doubt CNN would report. This movement that is beginning to fracture the Democrats is actually being instigated by AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.)) There are threats being made behind the scenes that some of her colleagues could find themselves “on a list” of primary election targets if they do not support her and especially following anyone who voted for a Republican amendment that required undocumented immigrants who try to buy guns to be reported to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

......

In 2020, President Trump and nearly two dozen GOP senators will face reelection. The battle lines are being drawn for this is going to be a contest between basic conservative to middle-ground principles against the rise of socialism and authoritative government. Thus, the 2020 election indeed appears to be on schedule for one of the most violent political confrontations since 1968.

Whoa whoa whoa WHOA.... the left does NOT want illegal aliens to be prevented from buying guns? Did I read that right?  They want to take guns from law abiding U.S. citizens but allow illegals to buy guns. Please tell me I am misreading that.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2019, 08:40:12 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/27/flashback-obama-admin-asked-ukraine-to-investigate-trump-campaign-manager-paul-manafort/

So when does the subpoena get delivered to BHO to come testify?


Flashback: Obama Admin Asked Ukraine to Investigate Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort

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Former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy noted at National Review on Thursday that then-President Barack Obama’s administration asked Ukraine to investigate Donald Trump’s campaign manager, Paul Manafort, in 2016.

McCarthy notes the double standard — that Democrats want to impeach Trump for doing what Obama did — and which they have been telling the world for years was necessary to do to protect American national security.

As House Intelligence Committee chair Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) told NBC News in March, his investigation into Trump dealt with “a present threat to our national security — whether the president and anybody around him are compromised by a foreign power.” If Trump colluded with Russia, or if the Russians had compromising information about him, they could hold enormous influence over the Trump administration — hence the need for investigation.

That is how Democrats defended the decision by intelligence and law enforcement officials under President Obama to conduct surveillance of Trump campaign associates — without warning Trump himself in a “defensive” briefing.

McCarthy notes that “the Obama administration’s law-enforcement agencies pressured their Ukrainian counterparts to revive a dormant corruption investigation of Paul Manafort” in the middle of the 2016 presidential election.

He cites his recent book, Ball of Collusion: The Plot to Rig an Election and Destroy a Presidency, recently excerpted on Fox News, which reports that Obama administration officials urged Ukrainian prosecutors to investigate Manafort — which amounted to “effectively meddling in the American presidential election.” The results were soon clear: leaks about Manafort’s activities in Ukraine began to appear in the U.S. media, spun in the worst possible light. He was replaced at the Trump campaign and became a target in the phony “collusion” narrative.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on September 28, 2019, 08:56:52 AM
Is it true Warren's Indian name is Gray Beaver?  Or is it Runs with Scissors?
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2019, 01:20:14 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/26/jesse-watters-juan-williams-treaty-ukraine/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2019, 05:37:18 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/28/common-funding-themes-link-whistleblower-complaint-and-crowdstrike-firm-certifying-dnc-russia-hack/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Lucifer on September 29, 2019, 06:16:42 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/explosive-report-rep-adam-schiff-linked-to-prominent-ukrainian-arms-dealer/
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: nddons on October 09, 2019, 01:38:04 PM
Is it true Warren's Indian name is Gray Beaver?  Or is it Runs with Scissors?


I always preferred Squats with Unions.  Don’t want to picture the former.
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Anthony on October 09, 2019, 02:16:20 PM


I always preferred Squats with Unions.  Don’t want to picture the former.

Yeah, I had a difficult time typing that.  My eyes!  My eyes!
Title: Re: Is Trump in deep doo doo this time?
Post by: Number7 on October 09, 2019, 06:44:52 PM


I always preferred Squats with Unions.  Don’t want to picture the former.

Fauxahontas