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Title: Project Veritas.....
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2019, 08:56:05 AM
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/11/05/video-leaked-insider-recording-from-abc-news-reveals-network-executives-killed-bombshell-story-implicating-jeffrey-epstein/
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Leaked Insider Recording From ABC News Reveals Network Executives Killed Bombshell Story Implicating Jeffrey Epstein
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: nddons on November 05, 2019, 06:45:02 PM
https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/11/05/video-leaked-insider-recording-from-abc-news-reveals-network-executives-killed-bombshell-story-implicating-jeffrey-epstein/
This is on Tucker Carlson right now. Holy crap.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Anthony on November 06, 2019, 03:50:54 AM
So how is the Democrat Media going to address that?  It is obvious that powerful Democrats control NBC, MSNBC, CNN. ABC, CBS, PBS, NYT, Washpo, AP, etc. 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Little Joe on November 06, 2019, 06:04:34 AM
So how is the Democrat Media going to address that?  It is obvious that powerful Democrats control NBC, MSNBC, CNN. ABC, CBS, PBS, NYT, Washpo, AP, etc.
They'll just ignore it and hope it goes away and that people will just think it is FOX making shit up.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2019, 06:33:35 AM
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Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Anthony on November 06, 2019, 07:16:25 AM
They'll just ignore it and hope it goes away and that people will just think it is FOX making shit up.

Most likely.  I haven't seen it on ANY networks or other mainstream outlets.  Very telling. 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Lucifer on November 08, 2019, 01:14:45 PM
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Steingar on November 08, 2019, 01:17:37 PM
I would remind you all that ABC is a private business that is entitled to run whatever material they see fit.  Freedom and all that.  It is possible the the story was quashed because it was too insubstantial.  Stories like that get quashed all the time.  I certainly could be wrong on that score, and I don't feel like wading through all the partisan nonsense to figure out the truth on this one. 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Anthony on November 08, 2019, 01:36:56 PM
I would remind you all that ABC is a private business that is entitled to run whatever material they see fit.  Freedom and all that.  It is possible the the story was quashed because it was too insubstantial.  Stories like that get quashed all the time.  I certainly could be wrong on that score, and I don't feel like wading through all the partisan nonsense to figure out the truth on this one.

Yeah, so what?  Nobody needs to be reminded of that.  We all know that NBC, MNSBC (both owned by Biden supporting Comcast), CBS, ABC (owned by Far Left Disney), PBS, NYT, Washpo (owned by Bezos/Amazon) are Democrat controlled propaganda machines that should be INGORED.  Yes, they are private, and can say whatever they want.  They also have NO CREDIBILTIY.  NONE.  Pure Democrat PROPAGANDA. 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Steingar on November 08, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
Yeah, so what?  Nobody needs to be reminded of that.  We all know that NBC, MNSBC (both owned by Biden supporting Comcast), CBS, ABC (owned by Far Left Disney), PBS, NYT, Washpo (owned by Bezos/Amazon) are Democrat controlled propaganda machines that should be INGORED.  Yes, they are private, and can say whatever they want.  They also have NO CREDIBILTIY.  NONE.  Pure Democrat PROPAGANDA.

Anthony, according to you any media outlet that does not closely adhere to the Conservative point of view is a liberal propaganda outlet, and any one touting the Conservative line is spouting the Odin's honest truth.  I'm still wondering why you don't just pick up and move to Alabama.

 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 08, 2019, 02:06:23 PM
I would remind you all that ABC is a private business that is entitled to run whatever material they see fit.  ...


hmmmm, I wonder if Freedom of the Press carries any moral/ethical obligations
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Number7 on November 08, 2019, 02:28:57 PM
Anthony, according to you any media outlet that does not closely adhere to the Conservative point of view is a liberal propaganda outlet, and any one touting the Conservative line is spouting the Odin's honest truth.  I'm still wondering why you don't just pick up and move to Alabama.

You are a fucking idiot.

Your objections are pure pablum, wrapped in ignorance, egotism, blind adherence to propaganda and stupidity.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 08, 2019, 02:47:54 PM
I would remind you all that ABC is a private business that is entitled to run whatever material they see fit.  Freedom and all that.  It is possible the the story was quashed because it was too insubstantial.  Stories like that get quashed all the time.  I certainly could be wrong on that score, and I don't feel like wading through all the partisan nonsense to figure out the truth on this one.

Right, like they quashed the (unfounded and ultimately revealed to be made up) literally UNSUBSTANTIAL and UNSUBSTANTIATED Kavanaugh accusations?

Got it.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Little Joe on November 08, 2019, 03:06:31 PM

hmmmm, I wonder if Freedom of the Press carries any moral/ethical obligations
We don't have enough emojis on here.

I need a really good "LOL" or "ROFLOL" emoji over that one.  Or maybe one that is laughing so loud it is crying.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Little Joe on November 08, 2019, 03:10:57 PM
You are a fucking idiot.

Your objections are pure pablum, wrapped in ignorance, egotism, blind adherence to propaganda and stupidity.
I was going to jump on Steingar to, but now I'm not sure who deserves it more.

Number 7; are you sure your not a bot with a limited vocabulary consisting entirely of slurs?  Steingar is not a fucking idiot.  He is just a plain old liberal idiot.

Steingar;  In my mind, there is more evidence that ABC, CBS,MSNBC, CNN et al are more of a liberal propaganda outlet than there is that man is causing climate change.  A LOT more.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Lucifer on November 08, 2019, 04:08:36 PM
Right, like they quashed the (unfounded and ultimately revealed to be made up) literally UNSUBSTANTIAL and UNSUBSTANTIATED Kavanaugh accusations?

Got it.

THIS!
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Number7 on November 08, 2019, 07:28:20 PM
I was going to jump on Steingar to, but now I'm not sure who deserves it more.

Number 7; are you sure your not a bot with a limited vocabulary consisting entirely of slurs?  Steingar is not a fucking idiot.  He is just a plain old liberal idiot.

Steingar;  In my mind, there is more evidence that ABC, CBS,MSNBC, CNN et al are more of a liberal propaganda outlet than there is that man is causing climate change.  A LOT more.

Someone needs a nice adult beverage and a massage ...
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 09, 2019, 06:08:09 AM
S0, ABC told CBS the leaker worked for them and CBS fired that person. Now it turns out that person was not the leaker, but had lost her job none the less.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Steingar on November 10, 2019, 09:55:35 AM
Right, like they quashed the (unfounded and ultimately revealed to be made up) literally UNSUBSTANTIAL and UNSUBSTANTIATED Kavanaugh accusations?

Got it.
The Cavanaugh story had a very credible eyewitness. That said, it probably never should have been brought up. Something like that from decades ago is very difficult to substantiate, and even if Cavanaugh did it, he’s not the same man he was way back when. Most folks do stupid and regrettable stuff in their youth, especially when fiat experimenting with the joys of alcohol.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Rush on November 10, 2019, 10:44:26 AM
The Cavanaugh story had a very credible eyewitness. That said, it probably never should have been brought up. Something like that from decades ago is very difficult to substantiate, and even if Cavanaugh did it, he’s not the same man he was way back when. Most folks do stupid and regrettable stuff in their youth, especially when fiat experimenting with the joys of alcohol.

I agree (except I don’t think that witness was credible at all). Also the culture was a bit different back then. Women were expected to be coy, and hesitant, and the men were expected to be persistent. Nowadays a persistent man is “sexually harassing” and women can withdraw consent even smack dab in the middle of intercourse, making a man who can’t withdraw that second criminally equal to the rapist in a dark alley.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Anthony on November 10, 2019, 11:28:17 AM
I agree (except I don’t think that witness was credible at all). Also the culture was a bit different back then. Women were expected to be coy, and hesitant, and the men were expected to be persistent. Nowadays a persistent man is “sexually harassing” and women can withdraw consent even smack dab in the middle of intercourse, making a man who can’t withdraw that second criminally equal to the rapist is a dark alley.

And God forbid the girl has ANY alcohol in her.  At the first sip of a beer, she becomes UNABLE TO GIVE CONSENT.  I have a firm rule all the women I date have to be at least 25 and out of college!
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2019, 12:09:53 PM
I would remind you all that ABC is a private business that is entitled to run whatever material they see fit.  Freedom and all that.  It is possible the the story was quashed because it was too insubstantial.  Stories like that get quashed all the time.  I certainly could be wrong on that score, and I don't feel like wading through all the partisan nonsense to figure out the truth on this one.
I’m sorry, was someone proposing that Congress force ABC to publish a story?  Or are you just pissy because we are criticizing the ethics of a member of the MSM as they attempt to provide cover for establishment democrats? 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Number7 on November 11, 2019, 12:26:09 PM
The Cavanaugh story had a very credible eyewitness. That said, it probably never should have been brought up. Something like that from decades ago is very difficult to substantiate, and even if Cavanaugh did it, he’s not the same man he was way back when. Most folks do stupid and regrettable stuff in their youth, especially when fiat experimenting with the joys of alcohol.

HORSESHIT... as usual.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: azure on November 12, 2019, 11:19:28 AM
The Cavanaugh story had a very credible eyewitness. That said, it probably never should have been brought up. Something like that from decades ago is very difficult to substantiate, and even if Cavanaugh did it, he’s not the same man he was way back when. Most folks do stupid and regrettable stuff in their youth, especially when fiat experimenting with the joys of alcohol.

Eyewitness, or victim?

I agree that Blasey Ford was a credible victim in that she convinced nearly everyone that she had been sexually assaulted. What she couldn't convince enough people of was that her assailant was Kavanaugh. That, because as you say it was decades ago and there WEREN'T any eyewitnesses, and no one (at least no one credible) to corroborate her story.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Anthony on November 12, 2019, 11:36:46 AM
Eyewitness, or victim?

I agree that Blasey Ford was a credible victim in that she convinced nearly everyone that she had been sexually assaulted. What she couldn't convince enough people of was that her assailant was Kavanaugh. That, because as you say it was decades ago and there WEREN'T any eyewitnesses, and no one (at least no one credible) to corroborate her story.

Why come out about it 25 years later with this timing?  Blasey Ford was a paid Democrat operative to derail the Kavanaugh appointment.  It failed and for a good reason. 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: azure on November 12, 2019, 11:48:35 AM
Why come out about it 25 years later with this timing?  Blasey Ford was a paid Democrat operative to derail the Kavanaugh appointment.  It failed and for a good reason.

Because he was being nominated to the SCOTUS? :shrug:

Do you have any evidence that she was a paid operative? Absent evidence, I don't buy this. There was corroboration that she told her shrink back in 2012, so she didn't just make it up. I'm pretty convinced that SHE believed she'd been assaulted by Kavanaugh, just not convinced that her memory was accurate so long after the event.
Title: Project Veritas.....
Post by: nddons on November 12, 2019, 12:04:05 PM
Why come out about it 25 years later with this timing?  Blasey Ford was a paid Democrat operative to derail the Kavanaugh appointment.  It failed and for a good reason.
She was a fraud. If the wasn’t, she wouldn’t have disappeared from public view. She would be pursuing whatever remedy might be available.

Instead, when she was no longer useful to the democrat party, she was shown the door and asked not to return.

I’m surprised you don’t see that.
EDIT:  ^^^^This statement was for Azure, not for you, Anthony.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Anthony on November 12, 2019, 12:32:12 PM
Because he was being nominated to the SCOTUS? :shrug:

Do you have any evidence that she was a paid operative? Absent evidence, I don't buy this. There was corroboration that she told her shrink back in 2012, so she didn't just make it up. I'm pretty convinced that SHE believed she'd been assaulted by Kavanaugh, just not convinced that her memory was accurate so long after the event.

It was OBVIOUS she was paid, and brought their to specifically disrupt the appointment.  If you can't see that you are purposely avoiding reality.  As Stan said.  SHE WAS A FRAUD. 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 12, 2019, 12:59:27 PM
It was OBVIOUS she was paid, and brought their to specifically disrupt the appointment.  If you can't see that you are purposely avoiding reality.  As Stan said.  SHE WAS A FRAUD.

Not just disrupt, but to taint and forever footnote this (invented) controversy so historians and future decisions will question anything done by the Court, and particularly regarding decisions written by Kavanaugh.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: azure on November 12, 2019, 01:47:08 PM
It was OBVIOUS she was paid, and brought their to specifically disrupt the appointment.  If you can't see that you are purposely avoiding reality.  As Stan said.  SHE WAS A FRAUD.

Again, I ask for the evidence. Saying something is OBVIOUS is just a way of dodging the question. You either have evidence or you don't.

BTW, it wasn't obvious to a lot of people in the Senate, including a few moderate Republicans (e.g. Collins).
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 12, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
Because he was being nominated to the SCOTUS? :shrug:

Do you have any evidence that she was a paid operative? Absent evidence, I don't buy this. There was corroboration that she told her shrink back in 2012, so she didn't just make it up. I'm pretty convinced that SHE believed she'd been assaulted by Kavanaugh, just not convinced that her memory was accurate so long after the event.

I apply the same criteria to people making allegations.

oh, btw, my interest is in credible evidence.

Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Number7 on November 12, 2019, 02:15:47 PM
Again, I ask for the evidence. Saying something is OBVIOUS is just a way of dodging the question. You either have evidence or you don't.

BTW, it wasn't obvious to a lot of people in the Senate, including a few moderate Republicans (e.g. Collins).

You are full of shit and you are not nearly stupid enough to believe your assertions here. To believe the bullshit you would have to accept many unbelievable accusations, not backed by anything - even pretense.

The entire charade was pure evil progressive politics, which is to say standard  communists (why they call themselves democrats is ANOTHER bullshit lie they try and sell).

The fact that you share your opposition to the President without a shred of corroborating evidence from bullshit websites that publish solely democrat (communist) talking points, and demand others provide you with evidence is just another example of your hypocrisy when it’s comes to progressive talking points and typical academic asshattery.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 12, 2019, 02:20:14 PM
Go find the statement by her lawyer where she said the intent wasn't to keep him off the court, but to put an asterisk by his name should an abortion case show up.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Number7 on November 12, 2019, 02:21:45 PM
Go find the statement by her lawyer where she said the intent wasn't to keep him off the court, but to put an asterisk by his name should an abortion case show up.

Careful... you might trigger the academic using facts, and don’t post a link to the video because it might cause seizures.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Lucifer on November 12, 2019, 02:31:07 PM
Again, I ask for the evidence. Saying something is OBVIOUS is just a way of dodging the question. You either have evidence or you don't.

BTW, it wasn't obvious to a lot of people in the Senate, including a few moderate Republicans (e.g. Collins).

You play this game often here.  When presented with evidence you quickly dismiss the sources as “biased” all while telling us how unbiased NPR/PBS is.  I could post several links that expose Blakey Ford, but why bother.

There is a lot of information on Blasey-Ford and her lies and motivation.  Her own father didn’t believe her, that should speak volumes. 
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: azure on November 12, 2019, 06:23:23 PM
You play this game often here.  When presented with evidence you quickly dismiss the sources as “biased” all while telling us how unbiased NPR/PBS is.  I could post several links that expose Blakey Ford, but why bother.

There is a lot of information on Blasey-Ford and her lies and motivation.  Her own father didn’t believe her, that should speak volumes.

Go ahead and post them. I've seen lots of allegations, all of them on strongly biased right-wing sites, and repeated mostly on sites pushing conspiracy theories. But even if her father supported Kavanaugh, that's neither here nor there. Whatever tensions and ill will exist between members of that family can't really weight the evidence one way or the other on whether she was sincere in her testimony.

I'm continually amazed how people on this board always seem eager to believe the most sinister explanations for what people on the other side do, as long as they are reported in places that support your dearly held narrative about our President. Did it ever occur to you that there is so much bullshit being thrown around on both sides that none of us has any solid, reliable understanding of much that happens in the news?

Given that, I usually default to Hanlon's razor... but I'm always willing to be convinced by solid, well-researched facts.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: azure on November 12, 2019, 06:27:44 PM
all while telling us how unbiased NPR/PBS is.

BTW this is a bald-faced lie. I've NEVER said that NPR and PBS are unbiased. They're definitely left-leaning and I've said that MANY times. The only reason I prefer them is that they don't make shit up and they (usually) make an effort to be accurate when they report facts.

But fuck yes, they're biased. I never said otherwise.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Username on November 12, 2019, 06:30:11 PM
Go ahead and post them. I've seen lots of allegations, all of them on strongly biased right-wing sites, and repeated mostly on sites pushing conspiracy theories.
That's because all but the right-wing sites actively suppress anything that goes against Democrat doctrine.  Anything that does not advance the approved narrative must be eliminated and the source discredited.  Thus "strongly biased right-wing sites ... pushing conspiracy theories."  That doesn't mean it's wrong.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Number7 on November 12, 2019, 06:31:44 PM
Gee...

Not A Single Person that blasey-ford named as witnesses remembered a single fact she claimed, but our academic progressive still proclaims that we must believe the credibility of the fucking lying, twat.

No doubt azure thinks anita hill was telling the gospel truth, too.
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Lucifer on November 12, 2019, 06:36:33 PM
Go ahead and post them. I've seen lots of allegations, all of them on strongly biased right-wing sites, and repeated mostly on sites pushing conspiracy theories. But even if her father supported Kavanaugh, that's neither here nor there. Whatever tensions and ill will exist between members of that family can't really weight the evidence one way or the other on whether she was sincere in her testimony.

I'm continually amazed how people on this board always seem eager to believe the most sinister explanations for what people on the other side do, as long as they are reported in places that support your dearly held narrative about our President. Did it ever occur to you that there is so much bullshit being thrown around on both sides that none of us has any solid, reliable understanding of much that happens in the news?

Given that, I usually default to Hanlon's razor... but I'm always willing to be convinced by solid, well-researched facts.

Just keep listening to your beloved NPR.  They tell you what you want to hear. 

 

Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Lucifer on November 12, 2019, 06:39:00 PM
BTW this is a bald-faced lie. I've NEVER said that NPR and PBS are unbiased. They're definitely left-leaning and I've said that MANY times. The only reason I prefer them is that they don't make shit up and they (usually) make an effort to be accurate when they report facts.

But fuck yes, they're biased. I never said otherwise.

"They don't make shit up"......  Oh fuckin' please!   Are you seriously that naive?
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Number7 on November 12, 2019, 06:50:37 PM
YES...
Title: Re: Project Veritas.....
Post by: Little Joe on November 12, 2019, 06:57:05 PM
BTW this is a bald-faced lie. I've NEVER said that NPR and PBS are unbiased. They're definitely left-leaning and I've said that MANY times. The only reason I prefer them is that they don't make shit up and they (usually) make an effort to be accurate when they report facts.

But fuck yes, they're biased. I never said otherwise.
This is true.  Azure has often admitted the left leaning bias of NPR and other media outlets.  But that doesn't mean she doesn't believe them though.