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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 06, 2019, 06:04:20 AM
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yup - that was the headline of an opinion piece in the Boston Herald today (Wednesday).
The writer is Joyce Ferriabough Bolling, someone who bleed liberal liberal liberal all the time.
She laments about the cost of eye drops, she cries about the cost of prescription medicine, she decries "big pharma" getting sky-high profits, she complains that a company has the audicity to discontinue production of a cancer drug (calling it "unconscionable" - I guess she'd be ok with forcing the company to continue production)
Not once does she consider how much it costs to develop and produce medicine. Not one single time.
Not once
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Why do liberals think Medicare recommends private, "Medicare Advantage" plans to save money?
If we get "Medicare for All", will there still be private insurance firms that can offer these cost saving Medicare Advantage plans?
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Why do liberals think Medicare recommends private, "Medicare Advantage" plans to save money?
If we get "Medicare for All", will there still be private insurance firms that can offer these cost saving Medicare Advantage plans?
better question: if we get "Medicare for all" and all the price fixing that comes with Medicare, who is going to invest in the healthcare industry?
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Hey, the VA has been a success, right? Right?
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Hey, the VA has been a success, right? Right?
A good friend of mine was partially disabled in the Marine Corps (Corpse to Obama) so he has to go to the VA for treatment and meds. It is a total fiasco. He just went down there (hour plus drive) only to be told his doctor's appointment was cancelled. No notice, nor warning, and it has happened to him before. The treatment sucks also. They basically just want to get rid of you, as you are just a nuisance to them. Poor diagnosis, poor treatment, lots of bureaucracy, and LOTS OF WAITING.
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A good friend of mine was partially disabled in the Marine Corps (Corpse to Obama) so he has to go to the VA for treatment and meds. It is a total fiasco. He just went down there (hour plus drive) only to be told his doctor's appointment was cancelled. No notice, nor warning, and it has happened to him before. The treatment sucks also. They basically just want to get rid of you, as you are just a nuisance to them. Poor diagnosis, poor treatment, lots of bureaucracy, and LOTS OF WAITING.
Wasn't fixing the VA one of Trump's big initiatives during the campaign?
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A good friend of mine was partially disabled in the Marine Corps (Corpse to Obama) so he has to go to the VA for treatment and meds. It is a total fiasco. He just went down there (hour plus drive) only to be told his doctor's appointment was cancelled. No notice, nor warning, and it has happened to him before. The treatment sucks also. They basically just want to get rid of you, as you are just a nuisance to them. Poor diagnosis, poor treatment, lots of bureaucracy, and LOTS OF WAITING.
Yep, that's a preview of "Medicare For All"....
Won't it be wonderful having a mindless bureaucrat deciding what kind of treatment you are "entitled" too? Or when you need to see a doctor, being told "We will schedule you an appointment within the next 12 months, and give you short notice of that appointment. If you miss the appointment you will be scheduled for the following 12 months".
Oh, and the wonderful paperwork we will fill out! Page after page of useless paperwork, that will get rejected with the slightest imperfection!
Can't believe everyone is not on board with this!
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Wasn't fixing the VA one of Trump's big initiatives during the campaign?
That would be sort of like putting a shattered window back together.
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Wasn't fixing the VA one of Trump's big initiatives during the campaign?
He's been working on it. Fired over 300 hundred bureaucrats for bad performance. They've made some other changes as well. Like any other large bureaucracy change is slow due to the embedded ideologues.
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Wasn't fixing the VA one of Trump's big initiatives during the campaign?
They are very SLOW to change. For instance, many of the employees still have Obama's picture up as President. Guess the demographic there. There has been some minor improvement though. I think he is getting his prescriptions filled with less waiting time.
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They are very SLOW to change. For instance, many of the employees still have Obama's picture up as President. Guess the demographic there. There has been some minor improvement though. I think he is getting his prescriptions filled with less waiting time.
We put up over a dozen trump pics all over the office the day after the election. But we also quietly took down obamas long before that. Good thing our obama appointed boss was too good to come to the workspace of us little people. But he had his head so far up his ass he probably wouldn't have noticed.
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better question: if we get "Medicare for all" and all the price fixing that comes with Medicare, who is going to invest in the healthcare industry?
Exactly. And who is going to want to be a doctor? Shortages and wait times. And the whole problem is largely caused by government interference in the first place.
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A good friend of mine was partially disabled in the Marine Corps (Corpse to Obama) so he has to go to the VA for treatment and meds. It is a total fiasco. He just went down there (hour plus drive) only to be told his doctor's appointment was cancelled. No notice, nor warning, and it has happened to him before. The treatment sucks also. They basically just want to get rid of you, as you are just a nuisance to them. Poor diagnosis, poor treatment, lots of bureaucracy, and LOTS OF WAITING.
That was the same for a good friend of mine too. That was in a big city. On the other hand my sister who goes to the VA in a smaller town can’t say enough good things. She loves it. So I think there is some variation depending on location. But as a general rule the bad predominates it seems. Maybe the only reason hers is good is because they have many fewer “customers”.
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Exactly. And who is going to want to be a doctor? Shortages and wait times. And the whole problem is largely caused by government interference in the first place.
I blame Facebook, IBM, Google, and the like. This is the first step to Doctor AI. Step in a booth, get probed, and a pill pops out. Automated, cheap, easy. No need for years of med school, just program the AI-enabled body-bot. Can't be cured or too expensive to treat? No problem. Floor opens to the convenient patient disposal chute.
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yup - that was the headline of an opinion piece in the Boston Herald today (Wednesday).
The writer is Joyce Ferriabough Bolling, someone who bleed liberal liberal liberal all the time.
She laments about the cost of eye drops, she cries about the cost of prescription medicine, she decries "big pharma" getting sky-high profits, she complains that a company has the audicity to discontinue production of a cancer drug (calling it "unconscionable" - I guess she'd be ok with forcing the company to continue production)
Not once does she consider how much it costs to develop and produce medicine. Not one single time.
Not once
Does this woman think that Warren’s plan also involves a government takeover of the pharmaceutical industry?
Pharma profits are used for R&D on new lifesaving drugs. R&D doesn’t just “happen.”
What a twit.
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That was the same for a good friend of mine too. That was in a big city. On the other hand my sister who goes to the VA in a smaller town can’t say enough good things. She loves it. So I think there is some variation depending on location. But as a general rule the bad predominates it seems. Maybe the only reason hers is good is because they have many fewer “customers”.
His is in Philly. I told him to switch to the one in our County, and I think he's going to, The problem is scheduling. Last time he switched it took him over a YEAR to get to see a doctor. His disability is no joke either.
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The VA tried to kill my half-brother. He has a knee replacement. Went home and started out patient therapy. One day the therapist told him he had an infection based on the temperature of the knee. He went back to the surgeon, surgeon says everything is fine.
He goes back home and several days later the knee explodes open and dripping all over the bathroom. Heads back to the VA hospital and, what do you know, the knee is infected. He is in such bad shape the organs are trying to shut down and at one point they called my sister to tell her she should round up the family. By this time he was in a coma.
No infectious disease doctor had been assigned to the case. She finally took a friend, that is a nurse, with her and her friend started giving them hell. Eventually things turned around. They had to go in and take the knee out and replace it with a spacer. Turns out they put the wrong size spacer in and eventually it dislocated and turned sideways.
After changing VA hospitals he finally had another knee put in and has been recovering.
On the down side he now has been diagnosed with cancer in his lymph nodes.
Can you imagine getting a call that you should gather the family together?
He has found a lawyer that is going to take his case.
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I qualify for VA medical services, but it would be a last ditch life/death situation before I ever darkened their doorstep. And even then, the house probably wins.
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Not once does she consider how much it costs to develop and produce medicine. Not one single time.
Not once
The advertising budgets of most Pharmaceutical companies dwarf their R&D, much of which they get from the taxpayers (who fund the vast majority of the biomedical research onto which Pharmaceutical companies piggyback).
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The advertising budgets of most Pharmaceutical companies dwarf their R&D, much of which they get from the taxpayers (who fund the vast majority of the biomedical research onto which Pharmaceutical companies piggyback).
source?
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The advertising budgets of most Pharmaceutical companies dwarf their R&D, much of which they get from the taxpayers (who fund the vast majority of the biomedical research onto which Pharmaceutical companies piggyback).
Total false B.S. I've been a consultant to three of the largest Pharma companies in the world, and that is just bad information. Their R&D is very expensive, and that's why they are sending a lot of it overseas. Also their MARGINS are very low. They are not the cash cows they were twenty years ago.
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source?
PLOS1
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PLOS1
That's kind of like saying your source is a library. Can you be more specific?
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That's kind of like saying your source is a library. Can you be more specific?
He is projecting his bullshit, brainwashing again.
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It has been argued about for a while. Here’s a fair article explaining the differences.
https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2019/7/do-biopharma-companies-really-spend-more-on-market
TLDR version, it used to be more sales and marketing because of how people were grouped. Today R&D is higher.
Additionally, a lot of R&D is done by outside companies and acquired by larger pharmaceutical companies so M&A costs are really R&D too.
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The federal government funds a huge amount of early-stage drug research though the NIH and DARPA. Pharmaceutical companies or venture capitalists take over with the late-stage development and clinical trials.
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That's kind of like saying your source is a library. Can you be more specific?
It is one of the most well-regarded science journals in existence.
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It is one of the most well-regarded science journals in existence.
As amazing and wonderful as that might be, would it be too hard for you specify the specific journal date/issue/article?
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As amazing and wonderful as that might be, would it be too hard for you specify the specific journal date/issue/article?
With the entire Man Made climate change LIE we've seen what garbage some of the "scientific community" can put out. Total garbage, and biased propaganda.
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An uncited source is an opinion.
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I blame Facebook, IBM, Google, and the like. This is the first step to Doctor AI. Step in a booth, get probed, and a pill pops out. Automated, cheap, easy. No need for years of med school, just program the AI-enabled body-bot. Can't be cured or too expensive to treat? No problem. Floor opens to the convenient patient disposal chute.
similar to the automated IRS booth: step in and get, ahem, probed.
amazingly, some health insurance booths operate (no pun) the same way, that is, step in and get probed. (notice I didn't say anything about treatments)
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An uncited source is an opinion.
And would be completely rejected by real scientists.
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And would be completely rejected by real scientists.
Unless they are Democrats.