Post by: Lucifer on November 11, 2019, 06:56:48 AM
This article is long and uses the direct testimony of Vindman. Read it and see just how desperate these people are in taking down a sitting US President.
Post by: Anthony on November 11, 2019, 09:56:39 AM
The people in the Media purposely pushing Democrat lies, or making up their own to benefit the Democrats and hurt the President need to be held accountable. I don't know how to legally do this other than don't watch, read, nor listen to them, which is already being done by some. I think there needs to be legal accountability pointed at CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, NYT, Washpo and others that actively LIE in attempt to overturn a Presidential election.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 11, 2019, 06:41:08 PM
Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) explained that “quid pro quo” is too complicated a concept.
“I have two problems with quid pro quo,” he said on NBC News’s Meet the Press. “Number one, when you’re trying to persuade the American people of something that is really pretty simple, which is that the president acted criminally and extorted in the way a mob boss would extort somebody, a vulnerable foreign country, it’s probably best not to use Latin words to explain it.”
He said the distinction between “quid pro quo” and a word like “extortion” will be critical during the public hearings.
He said, “What they’re going to hear is they are going to hear immensely patriotic, beautifully articulate people telling a story of a president who — let’s forget quid pro quo, quid pro quo is one of these things to muddy the works — who extorted a vulnerable country by holding up a military aid.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/11/democrats-shift-from-quid-pro-quo-to-bribery-and-extortion-ahead-of-public-impeachment-hearings/
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Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 12, 2019, 05:02:35 AM
Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) explained that “quid pro quo” is too complicated a concept.
[snip]
once again, the democrats are depending on voters being stupid. shades of that POS obamacare.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 12, 2019, 07:22:48 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 13, 2019, 12:02:28 PM
Post by: Steingar on November 13, 2019, 01:15:42 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 13, 2019, 01:20:32 PM
Coups usually involve guns, gentlemen. This is accorded by the Constitution and is lawful. Sorry you don't like it, but someone you don't like doing something you don't like doesn't mean anyone is breaking the law.
Yet another wrong, uninformed content free post.
Post by: nddons on November 13, 2019, 01:37:32 PM
Coups usually involve guns, gentlemen. This is accorded by the Constitution and is lawful. Sorry you don't like it, but someone you don't like doing something you don't like doesn't mean anyone is breaking the law.And sometimes they don’t. What is your point?
Please let me know where a coup is lawful in the Constitution. I can’t seem to find it.
What I DO see in the Constitution is that “the House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.” Not the Speaker. Not the chairman of a committee. Not one political party to the exclusion of the other. THE HOUSE. What is happening right now is NOT impeachment as the House has not voted on impeachment.
Post by: Number7 on November 13, 2019, 01:42:53 PM
Coups usually involve guns, gentlemen. This is accorded by the Constitution and is lawful. Sorry you don't like it, but someone you don't like doing something you don't like doesn't mean anyone is breaking the law.
You poor, deluded, imbecile.
Didn't your snowflake upbringing include civics?
Of course not.
One only has to read the comments made by your former students to know how deeply delusional you are.
I'll bet you are still convinced that Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house????
Post by: Anthony on November 13, 2019, 01:43:53 PM
Coups usually involve guns, gentlemen. This is accorded by the Constitution and is lawful. Sorry you don't like it, but someone you don't like doing something you don't like doesn't mean anyone is breaking the law.
Just because something illegal hasn't been brought to light doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I do think Democrat and Media collusion to invent falsehoods against a legally elected President in order to unlawfully unseat him is ILLEGAL, and that is what is happening. A coup does not have to involve guns, nor force, just illegal acts.
Post by: Rush on November 13, 2019, 01:49:35 PM
but someone you don't like doing something you don't like doesn't mean anyone is breaking the law.
EXACTLY CORRECT. And the whole Ukraine phone call thing is about Trump doing his job, as he should, with foreign policy, and the left elite don't like it. "He's not going through us! Impeach him!"
Post by: Steingar on November 13, 2019, 01:53:24 PM
And sometimes they don’t. What is your point?
Please let me know where a coup is lawful in the Constitution. I can’t seem to find it.
What I DO see in the Constitution is that “the House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.” Not the Speaker. Not the chairman of a committee. Not one political party to the exclusion of the other. THE HOUSE. What is happening right now is NOT impeachment as the House has not voted on impeachment.
Nothing in the Constitution says they have to. Indeed there really isn't that much in the Constitution about how to carry out an impeachment. Just the the House indicts and the Senate convicts. No worries really, the Senate is full of good Trump toadies who will back him up and make you all happy.
And in case you missed the news, the House did indeed vote on it, and it did indeed pass.
Post by: Anthony on November 13, 2019, 01:53:39 PM
someone you don't like doing something you don't like doesn't mean anyone is breaking the law.
Someone did something.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 13, 2019, 01:56:30 PM
And in case you missed the news, the House did indeed vote on it, and it did indeed pass.
The House voted to impeach?
Post by: nddons on November 13, 2019, 02:14:08 PM
The House voted to impeach?Apparently so according to Steingar, who is bereft of facts and willfully ignorant. It must have been called the Orange Man Bad Resolution.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 13, 2019, 02:33:26 PM
It must have been called the Orange Man Bad Resolution.
Didn't they do that before Donald Trump took the oath of office?
Post by: Lucifer on November 13, 2019, 02:38:32 PM
Nothing in the Constitution says they have to. Indeed there really isn't that much in the Constitution about how to carry out an impeachment. Just the the House indicts and the Senate convicts. No worries really, the Senate is full of good Trump toadies who will back him up and make you all happy.
And in case you missed the news, the House did indeed vote on it, and it did indeed pass.
There was not a vote on "articles of impeachment". Why? Because they have none.
I will say this about you: It's amazing to see the reaction of someone so misinformed and guided by MSM talking points. You are a dream to the leftist.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 13, 2019, 02:44:47 PM
Nothing in the Constitution says they have to. Indeed there really isn't that much in the Constitution about how to carry out an impeachment. Just the the House indicts and the Senate convicts. No worries really, the Senate is full of good Trump toadies who will back him up and make you all happy.
And in case you missed the news, the House did indeed vote on it, and it did indeed pass.
Surely then you can supply us with the text of the articles of impeachment ? When will the trial start in the Senate?
Post by: Steingar on November 13, 2019, 02:58:45 PM
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/02/775749115/house-votes-to-formalize-impeachment-inquiry-against-trump (https://www.npr.org/2019/11/02/775749115/house-votes-to-formalize-impeachment-inquiry-against-trump)
Article of impeachment (since non of you know how to do a Google search):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_impeachment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_impeachment)
Post by: Anthony on November 13, 2019, 03:05:59 PM
House votes:
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/02/775749115/house-votes-to-formalize-impeachment-inquiry-against-trump (https://www.npr.org/2019/11/02/775749115/house-votes-to-formalize-impeachment-inquiry-against-trump)
Article of impeachment (since non of you know how to do a Google search):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_impeachment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_impeachment)
A vote to "Formalize an Impeachment Inquiry" doesn't equal a Vote For the ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, but to NPR, I guess there is no difference. You are really reaching and FAILING.
Post by: Lucifer on November 13, 2019, 03:07:37 PM
House votes:
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/02/775749115/house-votes-to-formalize-impeachment-inquiry-against-trump (https://www.npr.org/2019/11/02/775749115/house-votes-to-formalize-impeachment-inquiry-against-trump)
Article of impeachment (since non of you know how to do a Google search):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_impeachment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_impeachment)
You simply can't be this stupid. Honestly.
Do you know the difference between an "inquiry" and actual articles of impeachment?
How in the hell did you ever get a PhD?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 13, 2019, 03:31:28 PM
Post by: nddons on November 13, 2019, 04:26:24 PM
A vote to "Formalize an Impeachment Inquiry" doesn't equal a Vote For the ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, but to NPR, I guess there is no difference. You are really reaching and FAILING.Flailing is more like it.
He just can’t be this stupid. He’s trolling. I hate feeding trolls.
Post by: Old Crow on November 13, 2019, 05:22:38 PM
Post by: Anthony on November 13, 2019, 05:33:10 PM
As I understand it the House voted to officially INQUIRE about impeachment. To me that indicates an investigation. If the House had actually impeached the President then all the action would go to the Senate. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Correct. The House would need to vote on the Articles of Impeachment, and if it passed the President would then be "Impeached", and it would go to the Senate for the Impeachment Trial. Being "Impeached" is meaningless unless the Senate finds the President guilty of the impeachable charges. The House is like the Grand Jury, the Senate is like the actual trial.
Post by: Rush on November 13, 2019, 05:35:44 PM
Post by: Little Joe on November 13, 2019, 05:46:41 PM
Geez people, give him a break. MSM is deliberately reporting it to sound like an actual impeachment. Half the country thinks it is.I was on the treadmill at the gym today and none of the TVs were working except the one tuned to MSNBC. After watching 45 minutes of that, I can see why mush minded people can believe the worst about Trump. They really do sound convincing.
Post by: nddons on November 13, 2019, 05:51:46 PM
Geez people, give him a break. MSM is deliberately reporting it to sound like an actual impeachment. Half the country thinks it is.He knows better than that. Or at least should be smart enough to find the facts. Absent that he is willfully ignorant.
Post by: Anthony on November 13, 2019, 05:57:39 PM
Geez people, give him a break. MSM is deliberately reporting it to sound like an actual impeachment. Half the country thinks it is.
You really want another thread locked don't you?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 13, 2019, 06:18:58 PM
I was on the treadmill at the gym today and none of the TVs were working except the one tuned to MSNBC. After watching 45 minutes of that, I can see why mush minded people can believe the worst about Trump. They really do sound convincing.But they didn’t convince you?
Post by: Little Joe on November 13, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
But they didn’t convince you?They did convince me.
They convinced me that the media is the enemy of the people.
Post by: Anthony on November 13, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
They did convince me.
They convinced me that the media is the enemy of the people.
Amen brother, and the reason this country is divided and in such a mess politically. Well that and EDUCATON brainwashing impressionable kids and young adults to believe only FAR LEFT ideology.
Post by: Mr Pou on November 14, 2019, 05:45:28 AM
Amen brother, and the reason this country is divided and in such a mess politically. Well that and EDUCATON brainwashing impressionable kids and young adults to believe only FAR LEFT ideology.
The young ones will eventually come around, but will it happen before they give the country away? Hmmm...
Post by: Lucifer on November 14, 2019, 06:05:31 AM
Post by: Anthony on November 14, 2019, 06:17:28 AM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/liberals-cant-answer-this-simple-question/
They sound just like Steingar!
Post by: Rush on November 14, 2019, 06:39:42 AM
The young ones will eventually come around, but will it happen before they give the country away? Hmmm...
THIS.^^^^ Many young in China get it, but there’s nothing to be done, once tyranny has an iron hand. You see what’s happening to the protesters in Hong Kong. In the rest of China, they just restricted how many hours a day you can play video games. With such tight control over everything in your life, and today’s technology (surveillance), I don’t see how a populace can ever regain freedom, especially once disarmed, and the young are being well cowed against guns.
I will never forgive Edward Snowden for his betrayal, but he was right about one thing: technology (cell phones and internet) creates a database of our every thought and most of our movements. It is rapidly becoming impossible to muster resistance against a government with such all-knowing power. Even our DNA is now considered a tool for law enforcement and we have no right to keep it private (a recent court decided - I hope somebody takes that to the SCOTUS). And you aren’t safe by not giving your DNA to ancestry.com, it doesn’t matter, because they will track you through your relatives’ DNA.
Our only hope is to keep our nation a Constitutional Republic with a strong Bill of Rights and uphold the Electoral College.
Post by: Steingar on November 14, 2019, 07:21:07 AM
Post by: Username on November 14, 2019, 07:33:58 AM
Trump abused his Presidential powers to try and strong-arm a foreign leader into providing him with dirt on his political rivals.No, he didn't.
Post by: Anthony on November 14, 2019, 07:35:44 AM
Semantics. The House has voted to undertake an investigation leading to articles of impeachment. I stand corrected. You can all pat yourselves on the back. Trump abused his Presidential powers to try and strong-arm a foreign leader into providing him with dirt on his political rivals. His one saving grace is he did it so incompetently that he might even get off. Of course none of this matters. He really could have shot someone in the head and his toadies in the Senate will still back him. He'll get off.
Trump was investigating an illegal relationship with former VP Biden selling his influence through his son Hunter by getting a high paying job with Ukraine Gas. He was not investigating candidate Biden's actions. This is, by treaty, the responsibility of the President.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 14, 2019, 07:57:39 AM
Semantics. The House has voted to undertake an investigation leading to articles of impeachment. I stand corrected. You can all pat yourselves on the back. Trump abused his Presidential powers to try and strong-arm a foreign leader into providing him with dirt on his political rivals. His one saving grace is he did it so incompetently that he might even get off. Of course none of this matters. He really could have shot someone in the head and his toadies in the Senate will still back him. He'll get off.
Everyone is his political rival, because he is not a dues-paying member of the Club.
Since when is someone off limits because he is a member of the opposing party? By that measurement, it should mean that the Dims can't investigate or even question anything Trump does.
Use the fucking brains Odin has given you.
Post by: Number7 on November 14, 2019, 08:05:26 AM
Semantics. The House has voted to undertake an investigation leading to articles of impeachment. I stand corrected. You can all pat yourselves on the back. Trump abused his Presidential powers to try and strong-arm a foreign leader into providing him with dirt on his political rivals. His one saving grace is he did it so incompetently that he might even get off. Of course none of this matters. He really could have shot someone in the head and his toadies in the Senate will still back him. He'll get off.
You are so fucking pathetic.
Post by: Rush on November 14, 2019, 09:10:17 AM
Semantics. The House has voted to undertake an investigation leading to articles of impeachment. I stand corrected. You can all pat yourselves on the back. Trump abused his Presidential powers to try and strong-arm a foreign leader into providing him with dirt on his political rivals. His one saving grace is he did it so incompetently that he might even get off. Of course none of this matters. He really could have shot someone in the head and his toadies in the Senate will still back him. He'll get off.
You are soaked in mainstream media spin. Just soaked in it. Can't you look at it from the other point of view for just one second? Biden's Ukraine quid-pro-quo was to cover up investigation of corruption. Trump's (if it was QPQ) was to investigate possible corruption.
In your moral world, which is the right thing to do and which is the wrong thing to do? Cover up corruption, or investigate corruption?
And even if you think Trump shouldn't have asked for an investigation because Biden is a political rival, then how are you okay with everything the Democrats did against Trump as a political rival, such as falsify FISA warrants?
Trump tried to dig up dirt on Biden? What about the dirt the Dems created on Trump? And then leaked to the press, and then used the made-up story they themselves leaked as "additional evidence" to put on a FISA warrant?
How does this math work in your head? Does 2+2=5 in your world also?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 14, 2019, 09:14:30 AM
Post by: Number7 on November 14, 2019, 09:21:40 AM
You are soaked in mainstream media spin. Just soaked in it. Can't you look at it from the other point of view for just one second? Biden's Ukraine quid-pro-quo was to cover up investigation of corruption. Trump's (if it was QPQ) was to investigate possible corruption.
In your moral world, which is the right thing to do and which is the wrong thing to do? Cover up corruption, or investigate corruption?
And even if you think Trump shouldn't have asked for an investigation because Biden is a political rival, then how are you okay with everything the Democrats did against Trump as a political rival, such as falsify FISA warrants?
Trump tried to dig up dirt on Biden? What about the dirt the Dems created on Trump? And then leaked to the press, and then used the made-up story they themselves leaked as "additional evidence" to put on a FISA warrant?
How does this math work in your head? Does 2+2=5 in your world also?
mikey doesn't think.
Sober examination of issues often leads to facts... and facts is racist, just like maths.
Post by: Anthony on November 14, 2019, 09:23:43 AM
You are soaked in mainstream media spin. Just soaked in it. Can't you look at it from the other point of view for just one second? Biden's Ukraine quid-pro-quo was to cover up investigation of corruption. Trump's (if it was QPQ) was to investigate possible corruption.
In your moral world, which is the right thing to do and which is the wrong thing to do? Cover up corruption, or investigate corruption?
And even if you think Trump shouldn't have asked for an investigation because Biden is a political rival, then how are you okay with everything the Democrats did against Trump as a political rival, such as falsify FISA warrants?
Trump tried to dig up dirt on Biden? What about the dirt the Dems created on Trump? And then leaked to the press, and then used the made-up story they themselves leaked as "additional evidence" to put on a FISA warrant?
How does this math work in your head? Does 2+2=5 in your world also?
And then he thinks that anyone that doesn't blindly believe the LEFTIST CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, NYT, Washpo DEMOCRAT PARTY LINE should move to Alabama. Not too elitist, huh? I live in PA which voted for Trump in the last election, so there are a lot of other people here that have similar beliefs to me.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 14, 2019, 09:23:47 AM
Sleepy Creepy Joe is under the bus and it’ll be rolling soon. I predict Deval Patrick will be the next Obama. WalkAway aside, there is the Black Code. Blacks will vote for blacks.
Deval Patrick? ROTFLMAO
Have you heard him speak?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 14, 2019, 09:32:06 AM
Deval Patrick? ROTFLMAOWhy, yes I have. He’s very good at quoting other people meaningfully, so much so that Obama plagiarized him. Plus, he is of politically preferred pigmentation.
Have you heard him speak?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc#
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 14, 2019, 09:38:10 AM
Why, yes I have. He’s very good at quoting other people meaningfully, so much so that Obama plagiarized him. Plus, he is of politically preferred pigmentation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc#
sure - he has a wonderful commanding voice.... for a chipmunk that took a hit of helium.
(I live in Taxachusetts, so I had to endure that putz in the Governor's office)
Post by: Lucifer on November 14, 2019, 09:38:51 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 14, 2019, 10:14:04 AM
The removal and reprogramming of their brain will occur after election.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 14, 2019, 10:18:22 AM
You are soaked in mainstream media spin. Just soaked in it. Can't you look at it from the other point of view for just one second? Biden's Ukraine quid-pro-quo was to cover up investigation of corruption. Trump's (if it was QPQ) was to investigate possible corruption.See your own excellent post about liberal doublethink.
In your moral world, which is the right thing to do and which is the wrong thing to do? Cover up corruption, or investigate corruption?
And even if you think Trump shouldn't have asked for an investigation because Biden is a political rival, then how are you okay with everything the Democrats did against Trump as a political rival, such as falsify FISA warrants?
Trump tried to dig up dirt on Biden? What about the dirt the Dems created on Trump? And then leaked to the press, and then used the made-up story they themselves leaked as "additional evidence" to put on a FISA warrant?
How does this math work in your head? Does 2+2=5 in your world also?
Post by: Lucifer on November 14, 2019, 12:41:23 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/burisma-slush-fund-operated-by-devon-archer-john-kerry-john-kerry-jr-heinz-jr-and-hunter-biden/
Post by: Steingar on November 14, 2019, 01:31:18 PM
You are soaked in mainstream media spin. Just soaked in it.
Sorry I don't get my news from Alex Jones or Breitbart.
Can't you look at it from the other point of view for just one second? Biden's Ukraine quid-pro-quo was to cover up investigation of corruption. Trump's (if it was QPQ) was to investigate possible corruption.
Were there evidence of such, which I have yet to see. All i have seen is innuendo.
In your moral world, which is the right thing to do and which is the wrong thing to do? Cover up corruption, or investigate corruption?
In my world what I want to see investigated is illegality. Which Ukrainian laws are the Bidens accused of breaking?
IAnd even if you think Trump shouldn't have asked for an investigation because Biden is a political rival, then how are you okay with everything the Democrats did against Trump as a political rival, such as falsify FISA warrants?
I keep seeing this charge and have yet to see any evidence. Just innuendo. You guys re good at that. The DOJ is supposedly investigating this stuff, so perhaps there will be some facts in evidence, not that little things like facts would sway any of you.
ITrump tried to dig up dirt on Biden? What about the dirt the Dems created on Trump? And then leaked to the press, and then used the made-up story they themselves leaked as "additional evidence" to put on a FISA warrant?
The vast majority of dirt the Democrats used on Trump were created by hisown fat self. If you're referring to the Steel report, it was actually commissioned by Republicans. The current imbroglio was also created by hisown self.
But whatever. Everything Trump does is legal and brilliant, and anyone who dares criticize him is wrong, misinformed, and should be jailed forthwith.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 14, 2019, 01:39:21 PM
Sadly, you don't recognize how much innuendo you use when fabricating "evidence" about President Trump.
It's ironic how much noise you make about being interested in facts.
Post by: Little Joe on November 14, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
Sorry I don't get my news from Alex Jones or Breitbart.When the shoe is on the other foot, inuendo is enough for you to demand an investigation.
Were there evidence of such, which I have yet to see. All i have seen is innuendo.
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In my world what I want to see investigated is illegality. Which Ukrainian laws are the Bidens accused of breaking?Why are you so hung up on Ukranian laws instead of Americans breaking American laws?
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I keep seeing this charge and have yet to see any evidence. Just innuendo. You guys re good at that. The DOJ is supposedly investigating this stuff, so perhaps there will be some facts in evidence, not that little things like facts would sway any of you.As you always say when the shoe is on the other foot, THAT is why we have investigations. You don't see evidence because you ignore it.
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But whatever. Everything Trump does is legal and brilliant, and anyone who dares criticize him is wrong, misinformed, and should be jailed forthwith.I seem to recall a lot of Republicans criticizing Trump when he said he was withdrawing from Syria. Except that after the knee jerk reaction receded, it was shown that he did the right thing.
Post by: nddons on November 14, 2019, 02:30:35 PM
Sorry I don't get my news from Alex Jones or Breitbart.Certainly your hero Adam Schiff brought his A game to the impeachment investigation, right? Witnesses that are knowledgeable about relevant facts, right?
Were there evidence of such, which I have yet to see. All i have seen is innuendo.
In my world what I want to see investigated is illegality. Which Ukrainian laws are the Bidens accused of breaking?
I keep seeing this charge and have yet to see any evidence. Just innuendo. You guys re good at that. The DOJ is supposedly investigating this stuff, so perhaps there will be some facts in evidence, not that little things like facts would sway any of you.
The vast majority of dirt the Democrats used on Trump were created by hisown fat self. If you're referring to the Steel report, it was actually commissioned by Republicans. The current imbroglio was also created by hisown self.
But whatever. Everything Trump does is legal and brilliant, and anyone who dares criticize him is wrong, misinformed, and should be jailed forthwith.
Well the answer is no. In fact, here’s the theme song for yesterday’s performances:
https://youtu.be/lAovdZ7WmF8
Post by: Little Joe on November 14, 2019, 02:54:17 PM
That was good, but only for about 30 seconds. Then it got boring. But the first few lyrics were perfect for yesterday's hearing.
Well the answer is no. In fact, here’s the theme song for yesterday’s performances:
https://youtu.be/lAovdZ7WmF8
Post by: nddons on November 14, 2019, 03:03:38 PM
That was good, but only for about 30 seconds. Then it got boring. But the first few lyrics were perfect for yesterday's hearing.Well, the first few lyrics were the whole point of this joke, killjoy.
Post by: Rush on November 14, 2019, 06:44:19 PM
Sorry I don't get my news from Alex Jones or Breitbart.
Neither do I. In fact, I'm not even sure who Alex Jones is.
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Were there evidence of such, which I have yet to see. All i have seen is innuendo.
Okay, suppose all of it is just innuendo. So what's the more righteous? Investigating alleged corruption, or covering up alleged corruption?
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In my world what I want to see investigated is illegality. Which Ukrainian laws are the Bidens accused of breaking?
Maybe no laws were broken, maybe it was perfectly legal for Biden's crack addict son to accept $50,000 per month from the Ukraine for doing basically nothing, while Biden was involved in mediating U.S. policy toward Ukraine. And maybe no laws were broken when Joe Biden gave them an ultimatum: "You have six hours to drop the investigation or you don't get the $1 billion". If it's not illegal, it stinks to high heaven. You're fine with this? Yet you have a big problem with Trump wanting to investigate Ukraine's involvement in influencing the 2016 election?
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I keep seeing this charge and have yet to see any evidence. Just innuendo. You guys re good at that. The DOJ is supposedly investigating this stuff, so perhaps there will be some facts in evidence, not that little things like facts would sway any of you.
We do have Biden on tape bragging about his glaring quid-pro-quo. As for the FISA stuff, yes we are all waiting for the report. It's supposed to come out any day now.
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The vast majority of dirt the Democrats used on Trump were created by hisown fat self. If you're referring to the Steel report, it was actually commissioned by Republicans. The current imbroglio was also created by hisown self.
No. All campaigns typically investigate opponents. The Republicans before the primary commissioned Fusion to dig up dirt on Trump, and they gathered various business records and tried to tie Trump to organized crime. This was before Steele got involved. Then, later, in early 2016, Fusion got a new client: The Clinton campaign and the DNC. That's when Fusion engaged Christopher Steele. The dossier had nothing to do with the earlier Republican commission, in fact, the Republicans withdrew their funding from Fusion in May, 2016 I believe. They had nothing to do with the Steele dossier, that was done for the Dems and the Clinton campaign.
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But whatever. Everything Trump does is legal and brilliant, and anyone who dares criticize him is wrong, misinformed, and should be jailed forthwith.
You have that backwards. It's your side, not Trump supporters, that's jailing people.
Post by: Number7 on November 14, 2019, 07:24:27 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 15, 2019, 07:12:31 AM
Post by: Rush on November 15, 2019, 07:29:06 AM
Found the Articles of Impeachment
This is what it all boils down to, that's all it is. These people (the left who are in power) arrogantly think that they know what's best for our country, and that they should be running things. When their candidate was rejected by the voters they couldn't handle it and they've been trying to undo the election result ever since.
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2019, 07:35:25 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/breaking-trump-white-house-releases-transcript-of-president-trumps-first-call-with-ukrainain-president-zelensky/
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 15, 2019, 07:43:51 AM
The "smoking gun" was just released. I guess it's over for Trump.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/breaking-trump-white-house-releases-transcript-of-president-trumps-first-call-with-ukrainain-president-zelensky/
President Trump is horrible.
It's a mystery how can anyone read that transcript and still support President Trump. Him talking about owning Miss Universe, terrible terrible terrible
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2019, 07:47:39 AM
President Trump is horrible.
It's a mystery how can anyone read that transcript and still support President Trump. Him talking about owning Miss Universe, terrible terrible terrible
Owning Miss Universe!!! OMG....SLAVERY!!!!!
Post by: Anthony on November 15, 2019, 07:48:27 AM
Post by: Number7 on November 15, 2019, 08:03:06 AM
Found the Articles of Impeachment
Mikey!!!
Here's your proof!
Post by: texasag93 on November 16, 2019, 08:06:39 AM
This is what it all boils down to, that's all it is. These people (the left who are in power) arrogantly think that they know what's best for our country, and that they should be running things. When their candidate was rejected by the voters they couldn't handle it and they've been trying to undo the election result ever since.
I think you are incorrect in that they think they are doing what is best for our country. They are doing what is best to keep their power and money flowing to themselves. They do not give a f*** about anything good for our country.
Some in shadows even think that what is bad for our country it should be done even if it hurts them in the short term.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 16, 2019, 11:45:51 AM
Does anyone know what the allowable expense limit is for a sitting Representative or Senator?
There will also never be term limits for these critters as they will never pass begin the amendment process, short of the country actually having a Convention of the States.
In other words, we're screwed.
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2019, 07:08:24 AM
https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/tim_morrison_key_points.pdf
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Here are the key points to Tim Morrison’s testimony.
1. Mr. Morrison did not believe anything improper occurred on the July 25 call. (p. 60)
2. Mr. Morrison testified that the memorandum of conversation (a phrase used to describe the call transcript) of the July 25 call was complete and accurate. (p. 60)
3. Mr. Morrison, who listened to the July 25 call, testified that he was not concerned about the substance of what was discussed on the call – only that the transcript might leak. (p. 46-47)
4. Mr. Morrison was told by National Security Council lawyer John Eisenberg that the July 25 call record mistakenly ended up on the highly classified system, debunking the Democrats’ allegations of an attempted “cover up.”
5. Mr. Morrison repeatedly testified that he purposefully kept Lt. Col. Vindman out of the loop on this matter because he had concerns about Vindman’s judgment, which were also raised to him by Fiona Hill and others.
6. Mr. Morrison testified that, as the final clearing authority for any edits made to the 7/25 call package, he accepted all of Lt. Col. Vindman’s proposed edits. (p. 61-62)
7. Mr. Morrison testified that he does not believe Burisma came up on the call or that anyone suggested edits to the mem-con to include the word Burisma. (p. 64)
8. Mr. Morrison testified that Lt. Col. Vindman relayed two concerns to him about the July 25 call: that the call did not get into the subject matter they had hoped, and the fidelity of the translation. (p. 72-73)
9. Mr. Morrison testified that Lt. Col. Vindman never reported to Morrison any of the “light queries” that he received from Ukrainian officials in August regarding the hold on aid. (p. 93)
10. Mr. Morrison confirmed that President Trump generally does not like foreign aid generally, and specifically held concerns that corruption in Ukraine may cause U.S. aid to be “misused.”
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2019, 07:17:07 AM
Plan B. Sway the Electoral College votes
Plan C. Overturn the Election results with recounts. (Recounts were abandoned when they resulted in more votes for Trump and exposing democrat voter fraud)
Plan D. Nullify the election by framing Trump with Russian collusion
Plan E. Have the Deep State take Trump out using the 25th Amendment
Plan F. Impeach Trump for firing Comey
Plan G. Impeach Trump for Campaign Finance violations
Plan H. Push Back: “If you see anybody from that cabinet.....get in their face”
Plan I. Impeach Trump for Obstruction of Justice
Plan J. Demonize Trump’s S.C. Justice nominee
Plan K. Impeach Trump for Money Laundering
Plan L. Impeach Trump for Treason
Plan M. Impeach Trump for revoking security clearances of people no longer in the government.
Plan N. Obstruct everything Trump attempts to do in congress
Plan O. Impeach Trump for violation of the Emoluments Clause
Plan P. Throw tantrum over Trump’s tax returns we will never see
Plan Q. Give sixteen year olds the vote
Plan R. Eliminate the Electoral College
Plan S. Let imprisoned convicts vote
plan T. Use pictures of illegal alien children caged by 0bama and blame Trump
Plan U. Mueller Report findings....
Plan V. Mueller's 9 minute summary of Weismann’s 400 pg op-ed
Plan W. Impeach Trump for "racist" Tweet "if you don't like it here, go home"
Plan X. Mueller's testimony before Congress🤣😂🤣
Plan Y. Moscow Trump Tower
Plan Z. Tie Bill's buddy Epstein to Trump
Plan AA. Exclude Trump from Kalifornia’s Primary Ballot
Plan AB. Convince voters we are headed into a recession
Plan AC. Recruit Establishment Never-Trumpers to run against him
Plan AD. Dox Trump supporters
Plan AE. Conspire with Silicon Valley to shut down any and all Conservatives
Plan AF. Change the whistle blower rules so literally anyone can fabricate a fake story based on hearsay
Plan AG. Change the House Rules on Impeachment as needed
Plan AH. Impeach Trump for pulling out of Syria after the Stated Mission of eradicating ISIS was successfully concluded
Plan AI. Impeach Trump for not informing leak prone democrats before taking out the ISIS leader and his successor
Plan AJ. Accuse Trump of a cover-up because the Trump/Zelenskiy transcript was stored on a secure system Wait, what?
Plan AK. Impeach Trump for Quid Pro Quo
no wait, make that Bribery,
no wait, make that Extortion,
no wait, make that intimidating tweets
Plan AL. Since Dems know they can’t impeach, have a meaningless show trial to keep the word “impeachment” in the news. And coach the witnesses on their hearsay evidence.
Post by: Lucifer on November 18, 2019, 05:45:29 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 18, 2019, 07:47:50 PM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 19, 2019, 08:53:43 AM
“I think part of it is his own insecurity as an imposter. I think he knows full well that he's in that office way over his head. And so he has to diminish everyone else.” —Nancy Pelosi, Face the Nation, November 17, 2019
Post by: Anthony on November 19, 2019, 09:03:56 AM
“The most profound threat to democracy today is not from Russia... The most grave threat to the life and health of our democracy comes from within, from a president without ethical compass.” —Adam Schiff, California Democratic Party’s Fall Endorsing Convention November 16, 2019
“I think part of it is his own insecurity as an imposter. I think he knows full well that he's in that office way over his head. And so he has to diminish everyone else.” —Nancy Pelosi, Face the Nation, November 17, 2019
Remember when the Democrats and Media were saying that the economy would crash, the stock markets would crash, and Trump would get us into more wars and possibly a World War?" Were they correct? NO. In fact the opposite has happened, yet they give NO CREDIT to Trump. None.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 19, 2019, 09:17:32 AM
Post by: Rush on November 19, 2019, 09:24:02 AM
“The most profound threat to democracy today is not from Russia... The most grave threat to the life and health of our democracy comes from within, from a president without ethical compass.” —Adam Schiff, California Democratic Party’s Fall Endorsing Convention November 16, 2019
The definition of “ethical compass” is: the progressive leftist agenda.
If you aren’t for that, you have no ethics. If you’re not pro choice you have no ethics. If you’re not for government run healthcare you have no ethics. If you support fossil fuels you have no ethics and so on.
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“I think part of it is his own insecurity as an imposter. I think he knows full well that he's in that office way over his head. And so he has to diminish everyone else.” —Nancy Pelosi, Face the Nation, November 17, 2019
I love the way he diminishes the likes of her.
In over his head? ROTFLMFAO!!! That man was born to be where he is today.
Post by: Rush on November 19, 2019, 09:37:32 AM
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More telegraphing of the left’s true agenda: “Voters can’t be trusted. We need to run things because we are intelligent and sophisticated.”
They practice “culturism”. They are highly bigoted against rural or conservative culture, and they openly practice censorship, discrimination and persecution of those with opinions not in line with their radical leftism. Yet they whine the loudest about all the other isms.
Post by: Old Crow on November 19, 2019, 11:15:37 AM
Post by: Rush on November 19, 2019, 11:48:47 AM
We need a helluva lot more people in DC who would be in 'over their heads'!
What she means by that is he won't go through the establishment and the established procedures. YES we need a lot more outsiders to not bow to the DC elite.
Post by: Anthony on November 19, 2019, 12:06:42 PM
What she means by that is he won't go through the establishment and the established procedures. YES we need a lot more outsiders to not bow to the DC elite.
The DC elite have become Royalty. They no longer fear The People, so feel entitled to become rich in office, and abuse their power. They need to learn a lesson, but I don't know how that is done. Voting them out of office doesn't work as the people that replace them become just as bad if not worse. The game is rigged.
Post by: nddons on November 19, 2019, 02:28:57 PM
The DC elite have become Royalty. They no longer fear The People, so feel entitled to become rich in office, and abuse their power. They need to learn a lesson, but I don't know how that is done. Voting them out of office doesn't work as the people that replace them become just as bad if not worse. The game is rigged.I firmly believe the last and only hope to change course is an Article V Convention of the States amendment to create term limits for Congress and the courts, and a balanced budget amendment.
Nothing else will work if it has to pass through the hands of the swamp.
Post by: Lucifer on November 19, 2019, 04:12:21 PM
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Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 19, 2019, 06:49:12 PM
Post by: bflynn on November 20, 2019, 02:57:47 PM
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4012.0;attach=1250)
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 20, 2019, 03:00:41 PM
And the man is still voting for democrats.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 21, 2019, 03:07:34 PM
Dems’ intent in their own words.
Damn.
Post by: Lucifer on November 21, 2019, 03:59:58 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 22, 2019, 06:23:02 AM
Post by: Anthony on November 22, 2019, 06:44:40 AM
Representative Brad Wenstrup had a pretty powerful moment yesterday, yet I can't seem to find any video about it. Only thing I've found is a video on Politico entitled, "Hear Hill’s powerful response to GOP lawmaker’s ‘coup’ claim"
The Media are suppressing facts, and only publishing misinformation and disinformation. You may see a few facts, and actual accurate quotes on alternative sites that will be quickly dismissed as "Far Right Wing". It has gotten to the point of absurdity. They are not even hiding it anymore as there is nobody to hold them accountable and they know it. Many people are just gullible, blind and brainwashed.
Post by: Rush on November 22, 2019, 07:21:43 AM
Post by: Old Crow on November 22, 2019, 11:08:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db2c2H4SKOM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 22, 2019, 12:07:17 PM
Is this the one?That's it, perfect!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db2c2H4SKOM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db2c2H4SKOM)
Post by: Lucifer on November 23, 2019, 08:15:53 AM
Post by: Anthony on November 23, 2019, 08:36:03 AM
(https://i1.wp.com/hardnoxandfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/a-fog6-1.jpg?w=619&ssl=1)
But, but, Hillary won the Popular vote!!! LOL! Russia! Stormy! Quid Pro Quo! No wait, Bribery!
(Nothing to see with former VP Joe Biden and the Hunter job in the Ukraine. Don't even ask about or investigate that.)
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 23, 2019, 08:41:50 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 23, 2019, 09:22:27 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 23, 2019, 10:37:38 AM
Biden has now threatened Lindsey Graham for opening an investigation on Burisma and the Bidens.
Shouldn’t Biden “prove his innocence” and allow the release of the documents?
After all, wouldn’t those documents prove nothing nefarious was going on?
Post by: Lucifer on November 23, 2019, 02:48:25 PM
Coups usually involve guns, gentlemen. This is accorded by the Constitution and is lawful. Sorry you don't like it, but someone you don't like doing something you don't like doesn't mean anyone is breaking the law.
(https://i0.wp.com/hardnoxandfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/a-wen15.png?w=828&ssl=1)
Post by: Steingar on November 25, 2019, 11:55:11 AM
or nothing to see with the Clinton Foundation...
I looked over the Clinton Foundation just before all the brouhaha launched. I used a couple websites that rate charities, I usually do before making donations. The Clinton Foundation was very highly rated for transparency, administrative costs and impact, indeed it got the highest rating from the sites I checked.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 25, 2019, 12:16:45 PM
Post by: Little Joe on November 25, 2019, 12:19:04 PM
I looked over the Clinton Foundation just before all the brouhaha launched. I used a couple websites that rate charities, I usually do before making donations. The Clinton Foundation was very highly rated for transparency, administrative costs and impact, indeed it got the highest rating from the sites I checked.Think lying, coverup and subterfuge.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 25, 2019, 12:30:42 PM
Post by: Number7 on November 25, 2019, 12:33:58 PM
I looked over the Clinton Foundation just before all the brouhaha launched. I used a couple websites that rate charities, I usually do before making donations. The Clinton Foundation was very highly rated for transparency, administrative costs and impact, indeed it got the highest rating from the sites I checked.
Of course it is!
Any charity that gives away less than 2% of its income in charitable donations would be above reproach as long as it was operated by a fucking progressive criminal.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2019, 12:51:23 PM
Of course it is!
Any charity that gives away less than 2% of its income in charitable donations would be above reproach as long as it was operated by a fucking progressive criminal.
Odd how "donations" to the Clinton Foundation plummeted when Felonious lost the 2016 election.
Post by: Anthony on November 25, 2019, 01:56:22 PM
Odd how "donations" to the Clinton Foundation plummeted when Felonious lost the 2016 election.
Anybody with eyes, and half a brain can see that the Clinton Foundation was/is purely a money laundering operation to finance the Clintons fun, profit and politics. The fact that they lost $16.5 Million in 2018 since Hillary LOST to Trump (lol!) should tell even the deaf, dumb, and blind something.
https://www.lucianne.com/2019/11/19/clinton_foundation_reportsbr168_million_loss_in_2018_20783.html
Post by: Steingar on November 26, 2019, 06:41:07 AM
Of course it is!
Any charity that gives away less than 2% of its income in charitable donations would be above reproach as long as it was operated by a fucking progressive criminal.
Charities with high overhead are poorly rated. I recall a medical charity with a very poor rating, yet it was easily the most successful one, channeling far more money toward the intended recipients than charities far larger and better known.
Post by: Lucifer on November 26, 2019, 06:44:07 AM
Charities with high overhead are poorly rated. I recall a medical charity with a very poor rating, yet it was easily the most successful one, channeling far more money toward the intended recipients than charities far larger and better known.
So can you list out the various causes that the CF helped and what they paid out?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 26, 2019, 06:47:00 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 26, 2019, 06:48:07 AM
Hate to interrupt the thread drift, but a "D" Congress woman has come out not supporting impeachment. Is she the beginning of an avalanche or will she be made to care?
or will she suffer the same fate as Kenneth?
Post by: Lucifer on November 26, 2019, 06:51:25 AM
https://thefederalist.com/2015/04/27/in-2013-the-clinton-foundation-only-spent-10-percent-of-its-budget-on-charitable-grants/
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/231363
https://newspunch.com/clinton-foundation-admit-85-of-donations-do-not-go-to-charity/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/7-things-you-need-know-about-clinton-foundation-aaron-bandler
https://dailycaller.com/2016/09/16/just-5-7-percent-of-clinton-foundation-budget-actually-went-to-charity/
https://freebeacon.com/politics/report-96-percent-clintons-charity-donations-went-family-foundation/
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/campaigns-elections/is-the-clinton-foundation-really-a-charity/
https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/home/2016/6/23/what-the-heck-does-the-clinton-foundation-actually-do.html
Post by: Anthony on November 26, 2019, 06:54:24 AM
Hate to interrupt the thread drift, but a "D" Congress woman has come out not supporting impeachment. Is she the beginning of an avalanche or will she be made to care?
We know what happens to Democrats that waiver even just a tad from the lock step, Fascism that is the Democrat Party today. Remember what happened to Corry Booker when he said he just LOVED Obamacare, but there was one little part he'd change. He was made to retract and apologize because the DNC immediately ostracized him and pulled any support for his political future.
Post by: nddons on November 26, 2019, 07:23:57 AM
or will she suffer the same fate as Kenneth?It depends. What’s the frequency?
Post by: Anthony on November 26, 2019, 08:07:36 AM
It depends. What’s the frequency?
Same as Dan Rather's.
Post by: nddons on November 26, 2019, 08:22:49 AM
Same as Dan Rather's.
Post by: Number7 on November 26, 2019, 09:20:27 AM
https://thefederalist.com/2016/09/16/clinton-foundation-spent-6-percent-charitable-grants-2014/
https://thefederalist.com/2015/04/27/in-2013-the-clinton-foundation-only-spent-10-percent-of-its-budget-on-charitable-grants/
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/231363
https://newspunch.com/clinton-foundation-admit-85-of-donations-do-not-go-to-charity/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/7-things-you-need-know-about-clinton-foundation-aaron-bandler
https://dailycaller.com/2016/09/16/just-5-7-percent-of-clinton-foundation-budget-actually-went-to-charity/
https://freebeacon.com/politics/report-96-percent-clintons-charity-donations-went-family-foundation/
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/campaigns-elections/is-the-clinton-foundation-really-a-charity/
https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/home/2016/6/23/what-the-heck-does-the-clinton-foundation-actually-do.html
DAMN YOU for offering unapproved facts!
Post by: Username on November 26, 2019, 09:59:16 AM
Any facts that don't fit the theory must be discarded and the offender flogged.
DAMN YOU for offering unapproved facts!
Post by: Little Joe on November 26, 2019, 10:42:28 AM
Charities with high overhead are poorly rated. I recall a medical charity with a very poor rating, yet it was easily the most successful one, channeling far more money toward the intended recipients than charities far larger and better known.Overhead can be hidden or disguised. It would take serious investigation to uncover such deception and none of the bureaucracy or the MSM has had the motivation to thoroughly investigate the Clintons. That leaves it to the "right wingers" to investigate and their conclusions get mocked as "conspiracy theory" by the MSM.
When liberals are accused of wrong doing, liberals say there is no proof therefore no need for investigatoin.
When conservatives are accused, liberals say we need to investigate to find the proof.
Post by: Anthony on November 26, 2019, 11:00:31 AM
Overhead can be hidden or disguised. It would take serious investigation to uncover such deception and none of the bureaucracy or the MSM has had the motivation to thoroughly investigate the Clintons. That leaves it to the "right wingers" to investigate and their conclusions get mocked as "conspiracy theory" by the MSM.
When liberals are accused of wrong doing, liberals say there is no proof therefore no need for investigatoin.
When conservatives are accused, liberals say we need to investigate to find the proof.
Exactly. You'd have to look at ALL the Salaries, and other things they call Operating Expenses and dissect them, and yes they hide "profit" within those expenses that they used for personal income, or bribes, and other political uses. I'd love to go in there and do some digging.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 26, 2019, 11:21:18 AM
Exactly. You'd have to look at ALL the Salaries, and other things they call Operating Expenses and dissect them, and yes they hide "profit" within those expenses that they used for personal income, or bribes, and other political uses. I'd love to go in there and do some digging.
if you could stand the stench...