PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on November 11, 2019, 07:21:42 AM
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To all who served....
Thanks.
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Yes, thanks and vote Republican because that's all who is going to support you.
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My deepest gratitude to all living and dead who serve and who served the United States and its CITIZENS.
Years ago, maybe 15 or so, I used to routinely pick up a New York Times on Wednesdays to read their extensive food section. But one year on Veterans Day I noticed that the NYT on display had NO mention of Veterans Day on the front page. I looked at the front page, nothing. Leafed through the sections, nothing.
I never bought a New York Times again, and it is my fondest hope that they will rot and die, preferably in Hell.
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Unfortunately we have shit like this: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/thank-a-veteran-today.122552/
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Assholes gotta stink.
It’s what they do.
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Unfortunately we have shit like this: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/thank-a-veteran-today.122552/
Post #13 they deleted James’ comment. Good grief, he makes a good point, although his attitude is a bit disrespectful and there’s a difference between being forced to hand over money and putting your butt in the way of bombs and bullets. That’s no reason to delete the comment IMO.
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Post #13 they deleted James’ comment. Good grief, he makes a good point, although his attitude is a bit disrespectful and there’s a difference between being forced to hand over money and putting your butt in the way of bombs and bullets. That’s no reason to delete the comment IMO.
A bit disrespectful? That fuckin’ clown spends a lot of time there disparaging veterans and the military.
I am surprised they deleted his post, they’ve let so many others stand.
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A bit disrespectful? That fuckin’ clown spends a lot of time there disparaging veterans and the military.
I am surprised they deleted his post, they’ve let so many others stand.
A lot disrespectful. I was understating to overprove. ;D
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Every Veterans Day I post this on FB and thank, by first name, as many family and friends they I can think of that served.
https://youtu.be/2kX_3y3u5Uo
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Post #13 they deleted James’ comment. Good grief, he makes a good point, although his attitude is a bit disrespectful and there’s a difference between being forced to hand over money and putting your butt in the way of bombs and bullets. That’s no reason to delete the comment IMO.
Likely they asked him to delete his post or face sanctions. DAMHIK...
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Watched a western movie this evening with my 100 year old step-father who had served as a radioman in the Army in the Pacific theater. (My own father, who died of lung cancer at 53, served in the army engineers in the European theater) The western starred Audie Murphy. I knew he was one of the most highly decorated soldiers in U.S. history, but I couldn’t remember how he died, so went to review his biography. It was, sadly, due to a VFR pilot flying IFR conditions. But that isn’t the real point of this post. It was that I also learned Murphy had a talent for poetry, and this is one of them I thought appropriate here:
The Crosses Grow On Anzio
Oh, gather 'round me, comrades
And listen while I weep;
Of a war, a war, a war...
where hell is six feet deep.
Along the shore, the cannons roar.
Oh how can a soldier sleep?
The going's slow on Anzio
And hell is six feet deep.
Praise be to God for this captured sod
That’s rich where blood does seep;
With yours and mine, like butchered swine;
And hell is six feet deep.
That death does wait
There's no debate;
No triumph will we reap
The crosses grow on Anzio,
Where hell is six feet deep.
Audie Murphy, 1948
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I had to look up the battle of Anzio. WWII truly was a world war, so many battles, all over the place.
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I had to look up the battle of Anzio. WWII truly was a world war, so many battles, all over the place.
A close friend of my Dad fought at Anzio. It was one of the worst. The Italian campaign was really tough.
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How amazing your stepdad is 100, Jim! I’m curious what he thinks of politics today. My Dad was a gunnery sergeant in the European theater. He passed away in 2010 at 84.
And I’m sorry about your dad. I lost three grandparents to lung diseases, all smokers. My Dad saw it happening as he was growing up and refused ever to smoke. Apparently it was considered harmless at the time, although Dad impressed us all with stories of the coughing and hacking so we never touched the stuff either.
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How amazing your stepdad is 100, Jim! I’m curious what he thinks of politics today. My Dad was a gunnery sergeant in the European theater. He passed away in 2010 at 84.
And I’m sorry about your dad. I lost three grandparents to lung diseases, all smokers. My Dad saw it happening as he was growing up and refused ever to smoke. Apparently it was considered harmless at the time, although Dad impressed us all with stories of the coughing and hacking so we never touched the stuff either.
My Dad died of smoking but not til he was 79 years old. Still I tried cigarettes when young but quickly became violently allergic to them. The appeal never took either, I didn’t get any kind of nicotine high. Makes me want to try vaping just to see what all the fuss is about. I won’t any time soon though. My plan is to wait til I’m 95, give up my drivers license and then try all the fun drugs and dare the government to jail me for smoking weed inside my own home.
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I like that plan!
One of my grandfathers started smoking at 13 and didn’t die of emphysema until he was 77. The human body must be amazingly resilient sometimes. He even rolled his own cigarettes and they had no filters. Just tubes of tobacco. He’d light the next one with the stub of the previous one. Until he went into the hospital, I rarely saw him without a cigarette going.
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I like that plan!
One of my grandfathers started smoking at 13 and didn’t die of emphysema until he was 77. The human body must be amazingly resilient sometimes. He even rolled his own cigarettes and they had no filters. Just tubes of tobacco. He’d light the next one with the stub of the previous one. Until he went into the hospital, I rarely saw him without a cigarette going.
I’m not a smoker.
The reason your grandfather made it so far is just as you described, he smoked pure tobacco. The shit they lace production cigarettes with is the deadly killer. And the chemicals used to make the filters adds to it.
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I’m not a smoker.
The reason your grandfather made it so far is just as you described, he smoked pure tobacco. The shit they lace production cigarettes with is the deadly killer. And the chemicals used to make the filters adds to it.
I am trying to take a gentler tone on this board (don't know if I'm succeeding) but I have to call this out. Tobacco is one of the worst thing for you no matter how you ingest it. Doesn't much matter what's put in it. I'd say modern cigarettes are better than hand rolled ones because the modern ones have filters, which can screen out some of the noxious chemicals. But cigarette smoke has both mutagenic chemicals than can damage DNA, and inflammation inducing agents that can drive cell proliferation. The single best thing you can do for your health is to stop smoking.
When I taught introductory biology I always gave a long screed against smoking. I figured if I could stop even one student from smoking I'd save my state my salary for the year in reduced medical costs.
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I am trying to take a gentler tone on this board (don't know if I'm succeeding) but I have to call this out. Tobacco is one of the worst thing for you no matter how you ingest it. Doesn't much matter what's put in it. I'd say modern cigarettes are better than hand rolled ones because the modern ones have filters, which can screen out some of the noxious chemicals. But cigarette smoke has both mutagenic chemicals than can damage DNA, and inflammation inducing agents that can drive cell proliferation. The single best thing you can do for your health is to stop smoking.
When I taught introductory biology I always gave a long screed against smoking. I figured if I could stop even one student from smoking I'd save my state my salary for the year in reduced medical costs.
Please reread what I wrote. I never stated nothing was wrong with pure tobacco. But, the chemicals that are laced into cigarettes today make it far deadlier. Even the chemicals used to make filters is bad stuff.
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You're both probably right. Filters filter out some bad stuff but also add some other stuff. We probably don't really know the truth because we cannot do proper studies; it would be unethical. All the studies are retrospective with a lot of confounding factors.
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How amazing your stepdad is 100, Jim! I’m curious what he thinks of politics today. My Dad was a gunnery sergeant in the European theater. He passed away in 2010 at 84.
My stepdad (not legally, technically just my mom’s second husband) had a bio published here on his 100th that may give you an idea: https://www.presspubs.com/citizen/news/years-for-hometown-hero-former-mayor-fire-chief/article_14cecf7a-51a0-11e9-8c19-f337690ae813.html (https://www.presspubs.com/citizen/news/years-for-hometown-hero-former-mayor-fire-chief/article_14cecf7a-51a0-11e9-8c19-f337690ae813.html)
I hope the time you had with your father was good.
And I’m sorry about your dad. I lost three grandparents to lung diseases, all smokers. My Dad saw it happening as he was growing up and refused ever to smoke. Apparently it was considered harmless at the time, although Dad impressed us all with stories of the coughing and hacking so we never touched the stuff either.
Sorry to hear that. My dad was a pipe smoker. Years after his death my mom read an article on distinguishing the causes of lung cancer and she suspects now, based on where the cancer started, the main cause probably wasn’t smoking but possibly asbestos (my dad was a carpenter.)
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How amazing your stepdad is 100, Jim! I’m curious what he thinks of politics today. My Dad was a gunnery sergeant in the European theater. He passed away in 2010 at 84.
And I’m sorry about your dad. I lost three grandparents to lung diseases, all smokers. My Dad saw it happening as he was growing up and refused ever to smoke. Apparently it was considered harmless at the time, although Dad impressed us all with stories of the coughing and hacking so we never touched the stuff either.
I don't believe people when they say they smoked because they thought it was harmless. Even in WWI, cigarettes were called "coffin nails" for a reason. Anyone with a brain has known cigarettes caused lung damage for a century. They might not have known it caused lung cancer, but they knew if fucked up you lungs over time. They just thought it wouldn't happen to them because they knew of, or heard about anecdotal stories about people that lived to be a 100 smoking every day. THOSE are the exceptions.