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Title: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Johnh on February 21, 2016, 06:50:37 AM
All my life, the term "snowflake" (outside of the white stuff that falls on the ground up north when it gets cold) has been a derogatory word for white people.

When I worked in the tractor-trailer maintenance department for Yellow Freight, where 90% of the line guys were black, I was routinely referred to as "snowflake", "white bread" or a host of other terms meant to be demeaning.

So what is the current meaning of the word?  I never heard it used like it is today until Florida Cracker used it one time and ever since then it has been thrown around in various contexts, but generally to ridicule someone.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: JeffDG on February 21, 2016, 07:13:25 AM
The way I've heard the term in recent times is to refer to those special, unique individuals who are part of the "participation trophy" generation, that need to have their thoughts and opinions continuously affirmed.  They are delicate, and any disagreement with them will send them running to find their "safe space".  Any disagreement with them will be called "harassment", and they will demand that those in power (normally University administration) severely sanction those who do not agree with them.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: carnack on February 21, 2016, 08:19:22 AM
I agree with Jeff..... As for the OP...... I know the feeling of working around mixed races and did so with very little hostility... But there were some who would constantly call me. Whitey, White trash, Honky, and worse.... I just let it roll off my back... BUT let one white person call a african american ANY kind of slur and your are FIRED on the spot, sued and kicked into the gutter...


Funny how that works...
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on February 21, 2016, 08:47:38 AM
The way I've heard the term in recent times is to refer to those special, unique individuals who are part of the "participation trophy" generation, that need to have their thoughts and opinions continuously affirmed.  They are delicate, and any disagreement with them will send them running to find their "safe space".  Any disagreement with them will be called "harassment", and they will demand that those in power (normally University administration) severely sanction those who do not agree with them.

You will receive the Special Snowflake Award for this.

(http://sadieforsythe.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Screen-Shot-2015-01-21-at-09.02.48.png)
Title: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 21, 2016, 08:56:24 AM
The way I've heard the term in recent times is to refer to those special, unique individuals who are part of the "participation trophy" generation, that need to have their thoughts and opinions continuously affirmed.  They are delicate, and any disagreement with them will send them running to find their "safe space".  Any disagreement with them will be called "harassment", and they will demand that those in power (normally University administration) severely sanction those who do not agree with them.

I totally agree. I see snowflakes as the millennials and others who are "unique" (as all snowflakes are) and delicate and very subject to melting (as snowflakes generally do) when faced with any heat whatsoever. Anyone who claims the be a "victim" of anything short of a real crime is probably a snowflake.

Of course they are very sensitive to "microaggressions" and "racism" and fight to shout down and shut up anything and anyone that challenges their world view.

In my experience it has zero to do with race.
Title: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 21, 2016, 08:58:26 AM
You will receive the Special Snowflake Award for this.

(http://sadieforsythe.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Screen-Shot-2015-01-21-at-09.02.48.png)

Is that like the millennial's version of the Order of Lenin?
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Dav8or on February 21, 2016, 08:58:37 AM
My understanding is the term "Snowflake" is a derogatory label for progressives that champion the "politically correct" dogma. Those that are hyper sensitive to perceived injuries caused by speech, or suggestion. The kind of people that invented "micro aggressions" and adhere to this kind of structured thinking. Those that celebrate diversity of skin colors, ethnic backgrounds and varied cultures, but not critical or non conforming speech.

I think the word snowflake was chosen because a snowflake is small, delicate and very sensitive to heat. Also each snowflake is unique, but also very uniform and similar with other snowflakes. For a snowflake to survive and preserve it's unique characteristics, it needs gentle handling and great care in it's protection. A snowflake is not meant to last forever in our country, but it can with special assistance and shelter.

The term "snowflake" works, because there are more and more people like this in our world. Collectively they are trying to pull a snow job on the American people as we face the potential avalanche of socialism.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: JeffDG on February 21, 2016, 09:00:38 AM
You will receive the Special Snowflake Award for this.

(http://sadieforsythe.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Screen-Shot-2015-01-21-at-09.02.48.png)
Added to my avatar.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Johnh on February 21, 2016, 10:15:28 AM
I agree with Jeff..... As for the OP...... I know the feeling of working around mixed races and did so with very little hostility... But there were some who would constantly call me. Whitey, White trash, Honky, and worse.... I just let it roll off my back... BUT let one white person call a african american ANY kind of slur and your are FIRED on the spot, sued and kicked into the gutter...


Funny how that works...
Actually, I didn't mind them calling me names like Snowflake or White Bread or Vanilla Pudding.  That meant they accepted me.  What they said to, said about and called the other supervisors was a lot worse.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Mase on February 21, 2016, 11:28:49 AM
The term "snowflake" works, because there are more and more people like this in our world. Collectively they are trying to pull a snow job on the American people as we face the potential avalanche of socialism.

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Jaybird180 on February 21, 2016, 11:36:12 AM
Diversity of Derogatory. Who'd a thunk it?

I'd like to publicly state that I was not acutely aware of the racial component of the term "Snowflake". I used it recently referring to Stan and if it was taken in that manner, it was not intentional. I suppose it's akin to the blackface issue at UW-Whitewater.
http://m.wisn.com/news/photo-of-uw-whitewater-students-in-blackface-causes-controversy/38071068

Maybe I need some racial sensitivity training (?).

 
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Dav8or on February 21, 2016, 05:43:53 PM
I see what you did there.

I know, I'm super duper cleaver, right??  ;D ;)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Mase on February 21, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
I know, I'm super duper cleaver, right??  ;D ;)

Wally, or Beaver?
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 21, 2016, 09:42:23 PM
Diversity of Derogatory. Who'd a thunk it?

I'd like to publicly state that I was not acutely aware of the racial component of the term "Snowflake". I used it recently referring to Stan and if it was taken in that manner, it was not intentional. I suppose it's akin to the blackface issue at UW-Whitewater.
http://m.wisn.com/news/photo-of-uw-whitewater-students-in-blackface-causes-controversy/38071068

Maybe I need some racial sensitivity training (?).

It wasn't taken in that matter, You chocolate chip.  ;)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Dav8or on February 21, 2016, 09:59:11 PM
Wally, or Beaver?

Give me a brake. I no you have the common cense too sea I'm the tall one.

 ;D
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Mase on February 21, 2016, 10:02:26 PM
Give me a brake. I no you have the common cense too sea I'm the tall one.

 ;D

 :) :)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 22, 2016, 07:01:55 AM

Give me a brake. I no you have the common cense too sea I'm the tall one.

 ;D

You act more like Eddie Haskell to me. ;)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: pilot_dude on February 22, 2016, 07:11:19 AM
Diversity of Derogatory. Who'd a thunk it?

I'd like to publicly state that I was not acutely aware of the racial component of the term "Snowflake". I used it recently referring to Stan and if it was taken in that manner, it was not intentional. I suppose it's akin to the blackface issue at UW-Whitewater.
http://m.wisn.com/news/photo-of-uw-whitewater-students-in-blackface-causes-controversy/38071068

Maybe I need some racial sensitivity training (?).
Nah, racial sensitivity training is so 90's
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Jaybird180 on February 22, 2016, 08:41:16 AM
It wasn't taken in that matter, You chocolate chip.  ;)
Stan,
Here's my nominee for your new avatar showing a fully snow plowed runway
 
(http://www.simflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Runway-winter-textures.jpg)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 22, 2016, 08:44:35 AM

Stan,
Here's my nominee for your new avatar showing a fully snow plowed runway
 
(http://www.simflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Runway-winter-textures.jpg)
Nice!
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: JeffDG on February 22, 2016, 08:44:45 AM
Stan,
Here's my nominee for your new avatar showing a fully snow plowed runway
 
(http://www.simflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Runway-winter-textures.jpg)
Well, since we're talking about snowflakes...


Your use of the word "plowed" is a euphemism for sex, and therefore a clear indicator of "rape culture".  Therefore, since you failed to preface your remarks with a "Trigger Warning", permitting people to retreat to their "Safe Spaces", your microaggression is worthy of execution.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 22, 2016, 08:55:23 AM

Well, since we're talking about snowflakes...


Your use of the word "plowed" is a euphemism for sex, and therefore a clear indicator of "rape culture".  Therefore, since you failed to preface your remarks with a "Trigger Warning", permitting people to retreat to their "Safe Spaces", your microaggression is worthy of execution.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160222/c2e0f7c69553df0873941d0bb79cec7a.jpg)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Number7 on February 22, 2016, 09:34:37 PM
The way I've heard the term in recent times is to refer to those special, unique individuals who are part of the "participation trophy" generation, that need to have their thoughts and opinions continuously affirmed.  They are delicate, and any disagreement with them will send them running to find their "safe space".  Any disagreement with them will be called "harassment", and they will demand that those in power (normally University administration) severely sanction those who do not agree with them.

Kind of like POA moderators.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 23, 2016, 12:17:44 PM
Perfect example of a snowflake

http://www.youngcons.com/bernie-sanders-supporter-cries-uncontrollably-because-trump-voters-were-mean-to-her/
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: carnack on February 23, 2016, 02:03:31 PM
Perfect example of a snowflake

http://www.youngcons.com/bernie-sanders-supporter-cries-uncontrollably-because-trump-voters-were-mean-to-her/

Un fucking believable....
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 23, 2016, 02:58:12 PM

Un fucking believable....

Oh my God.  Watching that kind of makes me want to be a Trump supporter! 

What I find stunning is that these snowflakes aren't embarrassed to be snowflakes, and even are willing to put their fragile emotional state out on the internet so that we can all understand and sympathize, or ridicule their sorry asses for wasting precious oxygen. 
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Johnh on February 23, 2016, 03:56:34 PM
Perfect example of a snowflake

http://www.youngcons.com/bernie-sanders-supporter-cries-uncontrollably-because-trump-voters-were-mean-to-her/
So if you want to build a wall, you think Mexicans are less than human.
But if you support trump, you are less than a brick wall?   ::)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 23, 2016, 04:05:28 PM
So if you want to build a wall, you think Mexicans are less than human.
But if you support trump, you are less than a brick wall?   ::)

It is the liberal way to think all Republicans are:


1) Oppositional in Congress for the sole purpose of keeping Obama from fulfilling his campaign promises! 

2) Hateful of everyone who is not white.

3) Hateful in general.

4) In complete agreement with everything GWB did.


The fact that none of these beliefs are anywhere near the truth makes no difference.  To cry whilst talking about these commonly-held misconceptions makes you especially esteemed by liberals, because YOU, like THEM, really Care About People.  And kittens.  And those poor, misunderstood terrorists.

All the ills in our country were created by Republicans. 


Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 23, 2016, 04:10:42 PM

So if you want to build a wall, you think Mexicans are less than human.
But if you support trump, you are less than a brick wall?   ::)

I would have loved to hear the callers. I suspect that the slightest pushback against her premise is coming across as  polite resistance, but for Snowflakes any resistance is met by an Alynskyite response: 

Pick the target (Trump supporters), freeze it (they called immigrants animals), personalize it, and freeze it.

And the crocodile tears help to personalize it.

Pathetic. 
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: nddons on February 23, 2016, 04:13:31 PM

It is the liberal way to think all Republicans are:


1) Oppositional in Congress for the sole purpose of keeping Obama from fulfilling his campaign promises! 

2) Hateful of everyone who is not white.

3) Hateful in general.

4) In complete agreement with everything GWB did.


The fact that none of these beliefs are anywhere near the truth makes no difference.  To cry whilst talking about these commonly-held misconceptions makes you especially esteemed by liberals, because YOU, like THEM, really Care About People.  And kittens.  And those poor, misunderstood terrorists.

All the ills in our country were created by Republicans.

It is funny that the democrats have had control of the Executive for 7+ years, and control of the House and Senate for a number of years, yet they act like they were mere bystanders as to what is happening in this country.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 23, 2016, 04:28:35 PM
It is funny that the democrats have had control of the Executive for 7+ years, and control of the House and Senate for a number of years, yet they act like they were mere bystanders as to what is happening in this country.

They weren't just standing by, they were pushing back!  Against the obstructionist Republicans!  All would be sunshine and rainbows if the Repubs hadn't squashed everything down. 
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Jaybird180 on February 23, 2016, 07:23:01 PM
Sarcasm Becky?
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: FastEddieB on February 23, 2016, 08:38:51 PM
It is the liberal way to think all Republicans are:

Caricatures.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7558/15547302949_f78c7f5903.jpg)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Little Joe on February 24, 2016, 06:37:45 AM
The way I understood it was that a "Snowflake" generally refers to fragile white girls that think they are unique among all others.  And their fragility devastates them when someone doesn't coddle them and make believe that they are unique even though they are mostly basically alike.
 
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: pilot_dude on February 24, 2016, 07:11:23 AM
We need to find her email address and extend an invitation to join us here at Pilotspin :)  That should cause a break down of epic proportions lol
I have a lot of respect for this group as we can disagree, sometimes vehemently, yet remain civil.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: asechrest on February 24, 2016, 07:32:25 AM
Caricatures.

Yes, caricatures.

(http://www.sitnews.us/Cagle/051005_fairrington.gif)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Dav8or on February 24, 2016, 08:53:11 AM
All the ills in our country were created by Republicans.

Yes and of course you realize that the conservatives think that all the ills of our country were created by Democrats. Welcome to polarized, partisan politics in America. We are a people divided.

The way to solidify and galvanize your people is to demonize the "enemy". Indoctrinate your followers that the opposition is inferior, weak and  corrupt. Make them believe that the other side is something a little less than human. This makes it easier to get otherwise rational people to say and do horrible things to other people.

I see this happening in both camps in America.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 24, 2016, 11:26:12 AM
Yes and of course you realize that the conservatives think that all the ills of our country were created by Democrats. Welcome to polarized, partisan politics in America. We are a people divided.

The way to solidify and galvanize your people is to demonize the "enemy". Indoctrinate your followers that the opposition is inferior, weak and  corrupt. Make them believe that the other side is something a little less than human. This makes it easier to get otherwise rational people to say and do horrible things to other people.

I see this happening in both camps in America.

I do realize all of that, and agree that is what is going on.  What I would like to know is HOW DO WE TURN IT AROUND?

I tried the other day to bring up some of these topics in a mostly-liberal group.  The liberals looked right, left, out the window, at the ceiling, shifted in their chairs, and finally said, "That's getting into politics!"  The moderates like me looked at each other and shrugged.  We have two options:

1)  Force the conversation and lose friends
2)  Shut up
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Mase on February 24, 2016, 12:01:38 PM
"Can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: carnack on February 25, 2016, 12:32:10 PM
"Can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King

And where is Rodney King now???
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Mase on February 25, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
And where is Rodney King now???

6 Feet Under (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King)
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Dav8or on February 28, 2016, 08:50:30 AM
I do realize all of that, and agree that is what is going on.  What I would like to know is HOW DO WE TURN IT AROUND?

I tried the other day to bring up some of these topics in a mostly-liberal group.  The liberals looked right, left, out the window, at the ceiling, shifted in their chairs, and finally said, "That's getting into politics!"  The moderates like me looked at each other and shrugged.  We have two options:

1)  Force the conversation and lose friends
2)  Shut up

I don't have a clue how to fix it. The information age has torn us apart. People's addiction to news and politics available 24/7 on various media have fueled this fire.

There have always been differences of opinion and half of the population leaning towards the left and half leaning towards the right. This has been the case all through history. What has changed is the amount of information available that is custom tailored and designed to suit your leaning, agitate you and keep you coming back for more.

It is now easy to seek out and find exactly what you're looking for. As an example here, Jaybird can easily find stuff about black oppression in white America and Jeff can easily find stuff about the evils of Donald Trump. Each can get enough of these facts and opinions piled up that they absolutely know in their mind the "truth". The producers of all this information are all making money off of it and they want you to come back again and again for more, so they know they need to frame it in the sense of a great struggle against the other side. A cause to rise up to, like we are to mobilize and go to war. That's what motivates people.

The last thing in the world the peddlers of "facts", "truths" and "information" want is for us all to get along, agree on common ground and get things done.
Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: CharlieTango on February 28, 2016, 09:21:11 AM
...

The last thing in the world the peddlers of "facts", "truths" and "information" want is for us all to get along, agree on common ground and get things done.

What is this 'get things done' of which you speak?  Forward?  Euro-model?

Seems to me anytime we get things done we go deeper in debt and even more of my money is confiscated to benefit others that didn't earn it.

Title: Re: What is a "Snowflake"
Post by: Anthony on February 28, 2016, 09:50:51 AM
What is this 'get things done' of which you speak?  Forward?  Euro-model?

Seems to me anytime we get things done we go deeper in debt and even more of my money is confiscated to benefit others that didn't earn it.

Exactly.  More laws, more regulations, more taxes.  Getting things done means GOVERNMENT GROWS ITSELF.