PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on December 09, 2019, 03:44:22 PM
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I was on a flight today, so I watched Fox News when the Horowitz Report dropped.
Within 15 minutes of the report being made public, Chris Wallace was spinning so hard he almost flew off of his chair. He was proudly proclaiming "no findings of bias!" and lamenting how the report exonerates the FBI and DoJ. Pretty amazing for a guy who hasn't even read the report.
Right after that we had Juan Williams jump in to tell us that the FBI had done nothing wrong and was, as the report stated, correct in launching an investigation into a Presidential Campaign. Needless to say, 'Ol Juan hadn't read the report either.
Interesting to read the statements put out by Durham and Barr right after the release, seems they aren't too happy with it, and in fact are getting ready to start filling in the holes of the Horowitz report. Stay tuned.
I've got some reading to do tonight on the Horowitz report, unlike those who will only rely on CNN or MSNBC/PBS/WashPo etc to tell them what it says.
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William Barr’s statement below:
“Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.
The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.
FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.
No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.
With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action.”
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John Durham’s full statement:
“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”
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Here it is.
https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf
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https://johnsolomonreports.com/just-how-bad-was-the-fbis-russia-fisa-51-violations-and-9-false-statements/
To understand just how shoddy the FBI’s work was in securing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant targeting the Trump campaign, you only need to read an obscure attachment to Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report.
Appendix 1 identifies the total violations by the FBI of the so-called Woods Procedures, the process by which the bureau verifies information and assures the FISA court its evidence is true.
The Appendix identifies a total of 51 Woods procedure violations from the FISA application the FBI submitted to the court authorizing surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page starting in October 2016.
A whopping nine of those violations fell into the category called: “Supporting document shows that the factual assertion is
inaccurate.”
For those who don’t speak IG parlance, it means the FBI made nine false assertions to the FISA court. In short, what the bureau said was contradicted by the evidence in its official file.
To put that in perspective, former Trump aides Mike Flynn and George Papadopoulos were convicted of making single false statements to the bureau. One went to jail already, and the other awaits sentencing.
The FBI made nine false statements to the court.
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You guys don’t understand.
President Donald J. Trump was not supposed to win. Then he said something mean and that is the end of all discussion
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I think that each day passes with this Impeachment in process, more, and more people realize this is an absolute, invented FARCE to affect the 2020 election. It is obvious to all but the far left, committed Communists.
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I think that each day passes with this Impeachment in process, more, and more people realize this is an absolute, invented FARCE to affect the 2020 election. It is obvious to all but the far left, committed Communists.
Correct.
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/lb191205c20191205073654.jpg)
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/thanks-pelosi-the-tide-turns-trump-now-beating-all-democrat-candidates-in-swing-state-polling-and-trouncing-democrats-in-wisconsin/
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I think that each day passes with this Impeachment in process, more, and more people realize this is an absolute, invented FARCE to affect the 2020 election. It is obvious to all but the far left, committed Communists.
Every liberal I know seems to think the same and believe the same as Steingar. It's scary.
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Every liberal I know seems to think the same and believe the same as Steingar. It's scary.
I haven’t seen anything remotely resembling independent thought coming from mikey. He seems like a fake doll, with a pull string that babbles bullshit talking points whenever you pull it.
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Every liberal I know seems to think the same and believe the same as Steingar. It's scary.
The Media, Entertainment, Education, and their beloved Facebook, Twitter, Instagram are RIGGED to only push the anti Trump, Far Left agenda. The low information, knee jerk, weak minded thinks it makes them look smart and informed if they repeat these lies. It is an epidemic of the stupid. Yes, that's harsh, but they don't paly nice, so I'm not going to either.
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Every liberal I know seems to think the same and believe the same as Steingar. It's scary.
Same here I want to know what liberals have changed there minds. Everyone keep saying they are but none of the ones I know are.
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Same here I want to know what liberals have changed there minds. Everyone keep saying they are but none of the ones I know are.
For a true dedicated leftist, it takes a total sea change, a sudden epiphany like Paul on the road to Damascus, or like when a cult member is deprogrammed, or when any religious person has an experience causing him to question his core beliefs. I don’t think that happens very often.
But what is happening I think is people who have been Democrat or liberal without thought, just because their family always was, or because they assumed it was the way they should be because of school and their community, if they aren’t rigid in their thinking and they are open to new information, they probably account for the change in polling. This would especially apply to rust belt states that were Democrat historically because of unions and support for the working man. You’d have to be blind and dead to not see that now, it’s Trump, not the Democrats, on their side. Same for blacks when they realize the Democrats put illegal aliens above them.
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From John Solomon
https://johnsolomonreports.com/just-how-bad-was-the-fbis-russia-fisa-51-violations-and-9-false-statements/ (https://johnsolomonreports.com/just-how-bad-was-the-fbis-russia-fisa-51-violations-and-9-false-statements/)
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From John Solomon
https://johnsolomonreports.com/just-how-bad-was-the-fbis-russia-fisa-51-violations-and-9-false-statements/ (https://johnsolomonreports.com/just-how-bad-was-the-fbis-russia-fisa-51-violations-and-9-false-statements/)
The MSM is desperately trying to spin this as "no news", but in fact it is very damning. I predict Wray will be ousted over this.
The IG was limited in scope to what he could investigate, and he had no power to empanel a grand jury or seek anyone outside of the FBI/DoJ. When you read "he found no political bias", what that means is he found no written evidence, no witness stating "this was political bias". His report is factual evidence and surrounds the misuse of the FISA court. And it was misused, big time.
In the report it states without the Steele Dossier and the fabricated "evidence", the FISA warrant request would have failed. And the FBI needed those FISA warrants to get inside the Trump campaign. They needed them to unmask others.
Read the parts about the "Defensive Briefings". Seems the Clinton Campaign was offered a defensive briefing, but not the Trump campaign. Why? If the FBI was truly concerned about meddling and certain people, why didn't they want candidate Trump to know?
Comey should be hiding under a rock right now. This report does not exonerate him, just the opposite.
Finally, Durham made an unprecedented move yesterday coming out with his statement. Durham is conducting a criminal investigation, keep that in mind.
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For a true dedicated leftist, it takes a total sea change, a sudden epiphany like Paul on the road to Damascus, or like when a cult member is deprogrammed, or when any religious person has an experience causing him to question his core beliefs. I don’t think that happens very often.
But what is happening I think is people who have been Democrat or liberal without thought, just because their family always was, or because they assumed it was the way they should be because of school and their community, if they aren’t rigid in their thinking and they are open to new information, they probably account for the change in polling. This would especially apply to rust belt states that were Democrat historically because of unions and support for the working man. You’d have to be blind and dead to not see that now, it’s Trump, not the Democrats, on their side. Same for blacks when they realize the Democrats put illegal aliens above them.
Shock therapy might work on the democrats, but I’m not sure there’s enough electricity on the grid to pull that off.
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Shock therapy might work on the democrats, but I’m not sure there’s enough electricity on the grid to pull that off.
maybe that's why the democrats so desperately want to limit electrical generation...
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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-james-comey-fbi-director-lies-punishment
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maybe that's why the democrats so desperately want to limit electrical generation...
Well they are BANNING Natural Gas in cities and communities all over, and Governments worldwide and in the U.S. are mandating Electrical Vehicles with not too distant deadlines. Where are they going to get all this generation and grid capacity to run all electric homes and electric vehicles? It is absolute nanny state, Utopian, Progressive MADNESS.
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https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/10/ig-report-confirms-schiff-fisa-memo-media-praised-was-riddled-with-lies/
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https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/473709-horowitz-report-is-damning-for-the-fbi-and-unsettling-for-the-rest-of-us?amp
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-william-barr-grants-first-interview-on-fisa-report/
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/its-official-the-dossier-was-malarkey
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/its-official-the-dossier-was-malarkey
Perfect example of how fiction propagates through word of mouth within groups of people and then ends up becoming solidified in official documents, leading to what is known as: Witch Hunt.
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Gee...
I'm so... like... shocked!
Imagine a... like... FBI agent making shit up made up of pure bullshit... and using it to politically damage the President of the United States, Donald Trump, (still not hilary... sorry mikey, kristen and azure).
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/10/senators-ig-fisa-abuse-report-misled-public-about-crossfire-hurricane/
Last week’s political trifecta—the Iowa caucus, the State of the Union, and President Trump’s impeachment acquittal—temporarily starved other stories of oxygen. Among those was the news that the inspector general’s report on FISA abuse was misleading and that redacted information contained in four footnotes contradicted sections of the lengthy expose on the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
Sens. Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson dropped that bombshell in a letter delivered to Attorney General William Barr that requested Barr declassify the information hidden in the redacted footnotes. While the declassified version of the Grassley-Johnson letter did not identify the four footnotes at issue, a detailed analysis of the IG report suggests the redacted information concerned Christopher Steele’s sources and potentially the FBI’s purported predication for the launch of Crossfire Hurricane. These conclusions come from a deep-dive into the IG report read in tandem with the Grassley-Johnson letter.
That letter noted that the senators had “reviewed the classified report of the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) with regard to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation, and [were] deeply concerned about certain information that remains classified.” Their concern? “That certain sections of the public version of the report are misleading because they are contradicted by relevant and probative classified information redacted in four footnotes.”
The next sentence is the key, as it establishes that the redacted information concerns not just a few details addressed in the IG report, but goes to the heart of the entire Crossfire Hurricane investigation: “This classified information is significant not only because it contradicts key statements in a section of the report, but also because it provides insight essential for an accurate evaluation of the entire investigation.”
We Can Find The Footnotes With Those Breadcrumbs
From these details—that the redacted information contradicts “sections of the public version of the report” and provides insight “for an accurate evaluation of the entire investigation”—it is possible to pinpoint the footnotes and concerns Grassley and Johnson see.
First, the universe of possible classified information the senators seek declassification of is narrow because we know from their letter it appeared in footnotes. While the IG report contains 535 footnotes, only 37 include redacted information: 17, 21, 61, 63, 164, 166, 205, 208, 210, 211, 214, 242, 244, 253, 265, 276, 293, 296, 301, 302, 328, 334, 339, 342, 347, 350, 354, 362, 368, 372, 377, 379, 389, 464, 475, 484, and 526.
Of the redacted footnotes, several can be ruled out because, from the placement and context of the notes and redactions, and from the unredacted details, it appears clear that the blacked-out information merely protects FBI “methods.” Other footnotes are easily deciphered from publicly known information or seem to provide little more information.
But four footnotes stand out: 302, 342, 347, and 350. These provide the most precise fit to Grassley and Johnson’s description of the hidden information and its relevance.
First is footnote 302, which followed Horowitz’s explanation that “Person 1” was the subject of an open FBI counterintelligence investigation at the time the first FISA application was filed against Carter Page. Hidden from the public, though, were details connected to the counterintelligence investigation into Person 1, who is described elsewhere in the IG report as a “key sub-source” to Steele.