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Title: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 03, 2020, 12:10:11 PM
For kicks and giggles (not really, but I think some might get the point), compare and contrast the documentation requirements for a Real ID and any attempts at voter ID.

Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Lucifer on January 03, 2020, 01:27:27 PM
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Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: bflynn on January 04, 2020, 04:02:37 AM
There are rumors of voter registration fraud in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.  Some people think that's how Trump won those states.  Voter ID sure would have been a good idea for them.
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Anthony on January 04, 2020, 07:23:33 AM
There are rumors of voter registration fraud in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.  Some people think that's how Trump won those states.  Voter ID sure would have been a good idea for them.

I am in PA.  I have personally witnessed Democrat vote buying in Philadelphia when I worked on a campaign there.  There is huge Democrat voter fraud in the cities here.  There has been no accusations of Republican voter fraud that I know of. 

Where are you getting these "RUMORS"?
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Lucifer on January 04, 2020, 07:28:01 AM
California is king of voter fraud.

 Take a look at the "ballot harvesting" laws enacted there.   This is why so many congressional seats that were won on election night flipped days and weeks later.

 Also, look at their "jungle" primary, which essentially provides for one party domination in elections.
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 14, 2020, 08:31:17 AM
More of this across America, please.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/01/wisconsin_democrats_held_in_contempt_for_refusing_to_purge_voter_rolls.html
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Rush on January 14, 2020, 10:24:45 AM
More of this across America, please.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/01/wisconsin_democrats_held_in_contempt_for_refusing_to_purge_voter_rolls.html

The ethical integrity of Democrats is a joke. There is no reason whatsoever to object to dead people being removed from voter rolls except you want them to stay available for fraud.

I make a prediction:  If blacks flip en masse Republican, all of a sudden this “racist” claim will vanish.
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Anthony on January 14, 2020, 10:31:36 AM
I make a prediction:  If blacks flip en masse Republican, all of a sudden this “racist” claim will vanish.

That's not going to happen.  The Black Community is too invested in the Victimhood Mentality that is reinforced by their leadership, the Democrats, Media and Education.  I have a few Black conservative friends that say that it is way too pervasive in their friends and family. 

They complain that almost everyone of them is always blaming "Whitey" for all their ills, and they hate Trump who they view as Whitey #1.  Their friends and family ALL thought Obama was great.  These are guys I shoot with at my gun club, so they are strong 2A supporters. 
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Rush on January 14, 2020, 11:06:45 AM
That's not going to happen.  The Black Community is too invested in the Victimhood Mentality that is reinforced by their leadership, the Democrats, Media and Education.  I have a few Black conservative friends that say that it is way too pervasive in their friends and family. 

They complain that almost everyone of them is always blaming "Whitey" for all their ills, and they hate Trump who they view as Whitey #1.  Their friends and family ALL thought Obama was great.  These are guys I shoot with at my gun club, so they are strong 2A supporters.

You're probably right, the biggest problem is the public schools and the media. That reinforces the prejudice they are getting from their family.  But, they flipped in the past, it could happen again.  I don't see any hope as long as the media and schools have such a stranglehold. 
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: bflynn on January 15, 2020, 06:30:45 AM
The ethical integrity of Democrats is a joke. There is no reason whatsoever to object to dead people being removed from voter rolls except you want them to stay available for fraud.

Let's be fair, Democrats do not own ethical integrity issues.  Republicans commit voter fraud too, maybe in increasing numbers because it's already being done and they need to help balance things out.  I'm sure you at least heard about the issue down in Rockingham in 2018.
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Anthony on January 15, 2020, 08:40:13 AM
There is absolutely NO REASON that we shouldn't have voter I.D. laws.  Also, States need to stop allowing ILLEGAL ALIENS getting drivers licenses which they then use as I.D. to fraudulently get all kinds of benefits. 
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: nddons on January 15, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
Let's be fair, Democrats do not own ethical integrity issues.  Republicans commit voter fraud too, maybe in increasing numbers because it's already being done and they need to help balance things out.  I'm sure you at least heard about the issue down in Rockingham in 2018.
Let’s be real. While there may be bad actors on both sides, your equivalency is bullshit.

Republicans are universally for one REAL person, one vote.

Democrats almost universally deny voting fraud exists, and fight to the death to clean up voting rolls, claiming “disenfranchisement,” an unsupported bullshit argument.

Same with voter ID. I recently saw a guy interview white people in Berkeley regarding voter ID, and the universal take was that it was racist, cause disenfranchisement, and of course many black people can’t get to the DMV to get an ID card, or have no access to the internet, so you are denying their “right” to vote.

The same guy then went to Harlem and interviewed blacks about IDs, and across the board everyone had one, and everyone knew exactly where the DMV was. Further, across the board the black people called the take of the Berkeley respondents as “uninformed,” “ignorant,” and “racist.”  They laughed their ass off when they were told that people at Berkeley said that blacks had no access to the internet.
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Rush on January 15, 2020, 12:31:12 PM
Let's be fair, Democrats do not own ethical integrity issues.  Republicans commit voter fraud too, maybe in increasing numbers because it's already being done and they need to help balance things out.  I'm sure you at least heard about the issue down in Rockingham in 2018.

Actually I haven’t.  Maybe I don’t watch enough cnn.
Title: Re: Real ID - compare with voter ID
Post by: Little Joe on January 15, 2020, 03:06:53 PM
Let's be fair, Democrats do not own ethical integrity issues.  Republicans commit voter fraud too, maybe in increasing numbers because it's already being done and they need to help balance things out.  I'm sure you at least heard about the issue down in Rockingham in 2018.
That's like saying women aren't the only ones that get breast cancer.  It is true, but look at the numbers.