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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on January 10, 2020, 11:01:42 AM

Title: Excellent video from an Iranian/American
Post by: Little Joe on January 10, 2020, 11:01:42 AM
I lifted this from a post over on The Pilots Place.  It is worth watching.

https://youtu.be/1C888mSyD7s
Title: Re: Excellent video from an Iranian/American
Post by: Rush on January 10, 2020, 02:20:20 PM
She is exactly right!  I know a guy from Iran.  He says the military or police would come knock on your door and order you out into the streets to shout "Death to America" and you had to do it or they'd arrest you. You had to have a picture of the Ayatollah on the wall next to your front door or you'd get in trouble.  He said most Iranians want nothing to do with the radical theocratic regime. Some real religious types do, but most he said, "just want to live our lives and be left alone, we don't care about all that religion stuff".  He LOVED America.  He came here and got his citizenship and runs a successful business. He's a really nice guy and upstanding citizen. As far as I know his family is still in Iran, his father snuck him out when he was 16 for his safety.
Title: Re: Excellent video from an Iranian/American
Post by: Little Joe on January 10, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
She is exactly right!  I know a guy from Iran.  He says the military or police would come knock on your door and order you out into the streets to shout "Death to America" and you had to do it or they'd arrest you. You had to have a picture of the Ayatollah on the wall next to your front door or you'd get in trouble.  He said most Iranians want nothing to do with the radical theocratic regime. Some real religious types do, but most he said, "just want to live our lives and be left alone, we don't care about all that religion stuff".  He LOVED America.  He came here and got his citizenship and runs a successful business. He's a really nice guy and upstanding citizen. As far as I know his family is still in Iran, his father snuck him out when he was 16 for his safety.
That's been my experience with the few Iranians I have met.  They are wonderful, well educated, hard working people.  That is why I am so hostile to their government and think we should liberate that country from their leaders.  Actually, that is not why I think we should liberate them.  We should depose their leaders because they are a threat to the US.  I just don't think we should be the ones to install a new government.  Perhaps NATO (that useless bunch of pricks) could set up a police force while they organize themselves.
Title: Re: Excellent video from an Iranian/American
Post by: Lucifer on January 10, 2020, 04:22:11 PM
That's been my experience with the few Iranians I have met.  They are wonderful, well educated, hard working people.  That is why I am so hostile to their government and think we should liberate that country from their leaders.  Actually, that is not why I think we should liberate them.  We should depose their leaders because they are a threat to the US.  I just don't think we should be the ones to install a new government.  Perhaps NATO (that useless bunch of pricks) could set up a police force while they organize themselves.

Your espousing the Bush Doctrine.  And while it may sound reasonable, it's not.

 First of all, if we go in and "remove" the current regime, then we own it.  And that means billions upon billions of dollars, our dollars. 

 And don't look to NATO to offer up any help, well, unless we foot the bill.

 On the subject of "liberation". Right now we have a large percentage of people in the US that would like to see a "regime change" here.   So should several countries get together and "invade" the US to force a regime change here and liberate the leftist and progressives?

 Sound absurd?  Of course it is.  But so it would be for the US to go liberate Iran.   Let the Iranian people throw out the government if they don't like it.  It's not the job of the US to go around the world and remove governments it doesn't like.
Title: Re: Excellent video from an Iranian/American
Post by: Rush on January 10, 2020, 05:49:49 PM
Your espousing the Bush Doctrine.  And while it may sound reasonable, it's not.

 First of all, if we go in and "remove" the current regime, then we own it.  And that means billions upon billions of dollars, our dollars. 

 And don't look to NATO to offer up any help, well, unless we foot the bill.

 On the subject of "liberation". Right now we have a large percentage of people in the US that would like to see a "regime change" here.   So should several countries get together and "invade" the US to force a regime change here and liberate the leftist and progressives?

 Sound absurd?  Of course it is.  But so it would be for the US to go liberate Iran.   Let the Iranian people throw out the government if they don't like it.  It's not the job of the US to go around the world and remove governments it doesn't like.

I can see that too. What we shouldn’t do is begin backing rebels and make promises and then pull out leaving them holding the bag. We change presidents every 4 or 8 years, I can see where countries feel they can’t trust us.