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Title: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Little Joe on January 17, 2020, 10:27:50 AM
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409245-trumps-comments-on-falling-in-love-with-kim-jong-un-are-shocking-and-appalling

Like Obama, I have "Evolved" in my thinking of gays.  But saying he "fell in love" with Kim Jong Un is disgusting, even if it is just a joke, or an attempt to trigger the left.

And he shouldn't be writing "Beautiful letters" to Kim.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 17, 2020, 10:36:52 AM
Simple.   

Trump uses twitter like a laser pointer, and the liberals are the cat.

The Hill will blow this out of proportion (and they are a cat herder).

Stupid shit.  Shall I make a posting of all the stupid shit being said by the liberals and progressives right now and in the recent past?  Funny thing is the MSM will not write about that.

 Finally, we are entering the senate impeachment trial.  The next few weeks the MSM is going to go throttle up on anything and everything to sling at Trump.  The MSM want him gone, and they want to punish his supporters.   It's gonna be a wild ride.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 17, 2020, 11:31:05 AM
why?  reverse psychology.  maybe.

Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Anthony on January 17, 2020, 11:37:01 AM
I wonder if Melania is jealous?
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 17, 2020, 11:41:07 AM
I wonder if Melania is jealous?

for some reason, I suspect not.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Little Joe on January 17, 2020, 12:11:44 PM
Simple.   

Trump uses twitter like a laser pointer, and the liberals are the cat.

The Hill will blow this out of proportion (and they are a cat herder).

Stupid shit.  Shall I make a posting of all the stupid shit being said by the liberals and progressives right now and in the recent past?  Funny thing is the MSM will not write about that.

 Finally, we are entering the senate impeachment trial.  The next few weeks the MSM is going to go throttle up on anything and everything to sling at Trump.  The MSM want him gone, and they want to punish his supporters.   It's gonna be a wild ride.
Unless you are telling me that the reports are a lie, then it was a stupid thing to say.

Oh, I still support him just as strongly as ever.  I think he is right and the DNC/MSM is wrong on just about everything.  But that doesn't stop him from saying stupid shit and causing even more people to have less respect for him.  If he didn't keep saying stupid shit he would be elected by a landslide in November, in spite of the DNC/MSM.  He probably will be anyway, but it makes it harder.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Anthony on January 17, 2020, 12:51:26 PM
I get frustrated by some of Trump's tweets and some of the things he says that shoot himself in the foot.  Then I remember we purposely elected a non politician that doesn't carefully parse his words in sentences that have a lot of words but say nothing. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 17, 2020, 01:00:50 PM
Unless you are telling me that the reports are a lie, then it was a stupid thing to say.

Oh, I still support him just as strongly as ever.  I think he is right and the DNC/MSM is wrong on just about everything.  But that doesn't stop him from saying stupid shit and causing even more people to have less respect for him.  If he didn't keep saying stupid shit he would be elected by a landslide in November, in spite of the DNC/MSM.  He probably will be anyway, but it makes it harder.

Never said the article was a lie, and I never implied such.

Just shows the desperation of the MSM.   
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 17, 2020, 01:04:02 PM
I get frustrated by some of Trump's tweets and some of the things he says that shoot himself in the foot.  Then I remember we purposely elected a non politician that doesn't carefully parse his words in sentences that have a lot of words but say nothing.

/\ /\ /\

This.

  I'm sick and tired of polished politicians who lie constantly, but who are also eloquent in speeches.

 We didn't hire Trump to be the Pope (although he would do better than the present one).  We hired the guy to fix things, it's all about job performance. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 17, 2020, 01:04:58 PM
Trump trolls, a lot, if you get caught that's your problem.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Anthony on January 17, 2020, 01:08:00 PM
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This.

  I'm sick and tired of polished politicians who lie constantly, but who are also eloquent in speeches.

 We didn't hire Trump to be the Pope (although he would do better than the present one).  We hired the guy to fix things, it's all about job performance.

Agreed, but I think Joe's concern is that it hurts him unnecessarily in the Media and thus a segment of the population that believes the Media, so could potentially hurt his chances for re-elections.  It is a valid concern, but that's the other side of the coin you get when you elect someone like Trump.  Hard to get both in the same package. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 17, 2020, 01:26:46 PM
Of course, if President Trump's use of twitter is the only legitimate complaint about, then there is absolutely no reason to vote against him (especially with the cast of sewerage the DNC is running against him).

If there are actually other legitimate complaints about President Trump, then his use of twitter is irrelevant.

Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: nddons on January 17, 2020, 02:06:41 PM
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409245-trumps-comments-on-falling-in-love-with-kim-jong-un-are-shocking-and-appalling

Like Obama, I have "Evolved" in my thinking of gays.  But saying he "fell in love" with Kim Jong Un is disgusting, even if it is just a joke, or an attempt to trigger the left.

And he shouldn't be writing "Beautiful letters" to Kim.
I watched the clip. Give me a break. Can no one recognize Trump demonstrating absurdity by being absurd?  He knows exactly what he’s doing, and “love” has nothing to do with it.

Trump has tamed Kim. No other president has done that. He has done so with his whip and with a pat on the head. He knows you never turn your back on a dangerous animal, but you also don’t need to constantly use the whip either.

It’s a shame that I have to explain this.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 17, 2020, 02:18:54 PM
I watched the clip. Give me a break. Can no one recognize Trump demonstrating absurdity by being absurd?  He knows exactly what he’s doing, and “love” has nothing to do with it.

Trump has tamed Kim. No other president has done that. He has done so with his whip and with a pat on the head. He knows you never turn your back on a dangerous animal, but you also don’t need to constantly use the whip either.

It’s a shame that I have to explain this.
Another aspect of Trump is that he gets everything all out there. Nothing is untouched. He is the most transparent President in history. And his willingness to call shit out is causing a tsunami of honesty and citizenry speaking up to leaders throughout the world, from Brexit to Hong Kong and Iran. He points out the failures of past administrations to address the inner cities, unemployment, bad trade deals, etc. so even Latinos and Blacks are waking up.

Not saying he’s perfect, but he’s what the world needs now.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 17, 2020, 02:30:24 PM
I believe we are going to see something new this year.........honest talk.

Instead of the constant "my feelings are hurt!" and the unending "outrages", the pushback has begun.  Ricky Gervais just gave an excellent example at the Golden Globes (and he's a liberal).   People are fed up, watch for more of this to happen.

 At least Trump has shown the weak kneed republicans it's OK to fight back.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 17, 2020, 03:49:29 PM
He just tweeted:


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Your 2nd Amendment is under very serious attack in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. That’s what happens when you vote for Democrats, they will take your guns away. Republicans will win Virginia in 2020. Thank you Dems!
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 17, 2020, 04:20:19 PM
He just tweeted:


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Your 2nd Amendment is under very serious attack in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. That’s what happens when you vote for Democrats, they will take your guns away. Republicans will win Virginia in 2020. Thank you Dems!

How dare Trump!!!!!    The nerve!!!!

I feel so threatened!!!!!
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Number7 on January 17, 2020, 05:39:57 PM
This is yet another example of the tragic lack of awareness and sense of humor among liberals.
The fucking times ran a fact check on one of the President’s jokes because libs are so pathetically shallow.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Little Joe on January 18, 2020, 07:03:48 AM
I agree with just about everything everyone has said here.  I am 100% in favor of him tweeting although I don't use Twitter.  I am glad when he calls a spade a spade.  I love that he fights back and that he is defending America from both our enemies AND our so-called friends.

But I still think if he had just a little bit of a filter between his brain and his mouth, he could be much more effective.  Maybe Steingar is right; people DO defend Trump, even on the few times he is actually wrong.

He "fell in love" with Kim Jong Un?  Really???
He knows more about wind turbines than anybody?  Really?

He may still qualify for one of the best Presidents ever, but he isn't perfect.  And when people defend him even when he is wrong, it gives the enemy (MSM/DNC) more ammunition to use against him.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 18, 2020, 07:08:53 AM
Part of the playbook that's in motion right now is not only attack Trump, but attack and belittle his supporters.

The liberal progressives hate Trump's supporters even more than Trump himself.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Username on January 18, 2020, 07:22:55 AM
Part of the playbook that's in motion right now is not only attack Trump, but attack and belittle his supporters.

The liberal progressives hate Trump's supporters even more than Trump himself.
Of course!  They betrayed America by denying the Entitled Bitch the chance to sit her ample butt in the Seat of Power.  It was her turn, and they ruined it.  She didn't even win a majority of votes.  65,844,954 votes from a total of 235,248,000 eligible voters.  That's only 28%.  Only a quarter of all eligible voters voted for her.  THAT's a statistic you'll never hear from the MSM.  The Democrats hate Trump supporters and everyone else who failed to vote for Queen Turd.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Anthony on January 18, 2020, 07:30:44 AM
Nobody is perfect.  I disagree with some of the retorts Trump gives, and how he gives them which are typically in response to what Democrats and/or the Communist Media says.  These are mostly "counter punches".  He gets down in the gutter with them, as that is all they understand. 

Bush, and others never fought back because they FEARED THE MEDIA.  Trump does not.  Does he sometimes give them ammunition to use against him?  Yes, but if you look at the big picture, that is relatively rare, but seems more prevalent due to the Media's over the top response. 

We will see the ultimate outcome if he is reelected or not.  I believe he will be. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 18, 2020, 07:45:22 AM
Nobody is perfect.  I disagree with some of the retorts Trump gives, and how he gives them which are typically in response to what Democrats and/or the Communist Media says.  These are mostly "counter punches".  He gets down in the gutter with them, as that is all they understand. 

Bush, and others never fought back because they FEARED THE MEDIA.  Trump does not.  Does he sometimes give them ammunition to use against him?  Yes, but if you look at the big picture, that is relatively rare, but seems more prevalent due to the Media's over the top response. 

We will see the ultimate outcome if he is reelected or not.  I believe he will be.

 You just hit on another reason the progressive media hate Trump so much, he fights back.   They have never had a president take them on, and get away with it.    The media operates like the playground bully, they hide behind the first amendment and use that to defame and slander/libel whoever they feel, including the President.

 Ever see the reaction of the playground bully when he get's a bloody nose?   Yep, the same reaction the MSM is having right now.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Rush on January 18, 2020, 08:24:58 AM
Ever hear the term "bromance"?  It's a current cultural meme, an allegorical description of one to one male bonding between absolutely straight men. Trump simply took that and ran with it, using verbal exaggerations like he always does.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bromance

If you want to be offended that he is portraying a human rights violator as a close friend, that's understandable, but the "love" aspect here is clear metaphor and demonstrates yet again that Trump is tuned in to ordinary people and not putting on elitist airs.

If you are offended that he's developing a good relationship with Jong-Un, what's your alternative? Do you prefer no communication at all and continued hostilities? Isn't it a good thing that he's opening up dialogue? After having made clear the U.S. position of greater power? (As opposed to Democrats who cozy up to enemies and give them money.)

I expect the left to attack Trump no matter what he does, but conservatives? Guy can't win for trying.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Anthony on January 18, 2020, 08:34:37 AM
^^^^^Trump can't win.  First, the Dems and MEDIA (same thing) said Trump would start a Nuclear War with North Korea iv he were elected.  Then when Trump tries to negotiate peace, be firm but friendly, they now say he is "propping up a fascist regime".  So, no matter what Trump does, even if it enables PEACE in the world the LEFT HATE HIM FOR IT. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Rush on January 18, 2020, 08:47:20 AM
^^^^^Trump can't win.  First, the Dems and MEDIA (same thing) said Trump would start a Nuclear War with North Korea.  Then when Trump tires to negotiate peace, be firm but friendly, they now say he is "propping up a fascist regime".  So, no matter what Trump does, even if it enables PEACE in the world the LEFT HATE HIM FOR IT.

Exactly. Because they simply hate the fact that he pulled the rug out from under their plan to install Hillary and complete the “transformation” of the United States from a free market democratic republic into a socialist regime.

That’s all that’s going on here.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Rush on January 18, 2020, 09:28:24 AM
I agree with just about everything everyone has said here.  I am 100% in favor of him tweeting although I don't use Twitter.  I am glad when he calls a spade a spade.  I love that he fights back and that he is defending America from both our enemies AND our so-called friends.

But I still think if he had just a little bit of a filter between his brain and his mouth, he could be much more effective.  Maybe Steingar is right; people DO defend Trump, even on the few times he is actually wrong.

He "fell in love" with Kim Jong Un?  Really???
He knows more about wind turbines than anybody?  Really?

He may still qualify for one of the best Presidents ever, but he isn't perfect.  And when people defend him even when he is wrong, it gives the enemy (MSM/DNC) more ammunition to use against him.

Having disagreed with you about this, I have disapproved of other things he’s said. Like this:

https://reason.com/2017/07/28/trump-encourages-police-to-brutalize-sus/

Quote
”Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you're protecting their head," Trump continued. "You know, the way you put their hand over, like, don't hit their head, and they've just killed somebody. Don't hit their head. I said, 'You can take the hand away, OK?'”

What he is forgetting here is that we are all presumed innocent until proven guilty, and plenty of innocent people are arrested. But even if I have no sympathy for a guilty person being treated roughly, I don’t think Trump helped himself making these comments. The same with his endorsement of civil asset forfeiture. I think he was trying to get the law enforcement community on his side and maybe he knew what he was doing. There are plenty of Democrat sheriffs and police officers. So possibly it helped him among them but it’s not going to help him among blacks and that’s a demographic we absolutely need to change.

Law enforcement departments have become dependent on civil asset forfeiture as a source of funding and that’s a serious problem. If we fix that they will have to get funding elsewhere and that probably means higher taxes. But here’s the thing: it is disproportionately lower classes that suffer from civil asset forfeiture, but replacing the income stream with taxes will shift that burden to middle and upper classes which is as it should be but might be what’s stopping this from being fixed. If you say it’s the lower classes that commit the most crimes so they should pay, no, not all of them are criminals and the innocent among them are being abused. We can keep criminal asset forfeiture. But civil is literally just highway robbery.

One of the complaints of the left is that wealth tends to flow upward, and they are correct about that although they are wrong about the solution. In all economic systems money tends to accumulate with a small number of people at the top, but in free market capitalism things remain fluid and the people at the bottom have a better chance to improve their lot. The problem is that in all systems, those with the authority to use sanctioned force are always the winners. This is why, in a free market system, government is used to manipulate the system to your advantage. In socialism and communism, the government is the de facto controller and no manipulation is needed. Both systems are unfair to the poor but only the free market system has a chance to regulate the unfairness.

Those who understand nature know there is no such thing as a “fair” system. But we have figured out that the best system overall, bringing the most benefits to the greatest number of people, is freedom. How terribly sad there are so many in this country who have forgotten this.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 18, 2020, 11:02:55 AM
If you want stupid, here ya go:  https://twitchy.com/doug-3137/2020/01/18/the-stupid-it-burns-nbc-news-serves-up-steaming-hot-take-about-voting-for-trump-being-unconstitutional/
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: nddons on January 18, 2020, 01:34:04 PM
I agree with just about everything everyone has said here.  I am 100% in favor of him tweeting although I don't use Twitter.  I am glad when he calls a spade a spade.  I love that he fights back and that he is defending America from both our enemies AND our so-called friends.

But I still think if he had just a little bit of a filter between his brain and his mouth, he could be much more effective.  Maybe Steingar is right; people DO defend Trump, even on the few times he is actually wrong.

He "fell in love" with Kim Jong Un?  Really???
He knows more about wind turbines than anybody?  Really?

He may still qualify for one of the best Presidents ever, but he isn't perfect.  And when people defend him even when he is wrong, it gives the enemy (MSM/DNC) more ammunition to use against him.
Why do things like the “Love” thing or the wind turbine thing bother you?  So he uses absurdity. So he boasts. So what?  Only one perfect person has walked this earth, so Trump is in good company with the rest of us sinners.

About defending him, let’s be clear.  If he advocated a position contrary to the Constitution, or contrary to a fundamental conservative position, he will get my scorn. He would be wrong.

But if you think you will gain good will from the left by joining on the pile on for outrages such as if he is truly in a romantic relationship with Kim or other equally ridiculous and irrelevant shit, you’re wrong. The left will give NO quarter to a conservative for joining in the pile-on. They will continue to ridicule and hate us for the temerity of supporting such a racist and doofus as Trump.

I look at defending Trump like I I look at getting in the middle of a fight between two brothers. They may be beating the snot out of each other, but if you join the fray and attack one of them, they will both beat the shit out of you.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 18, 2020, 01:48:53 PM
If you want stupid, here ya go:  https://twitchy.com/doug-3137/2020/01/18/the-stupid-it-burns-nbc-news-serves-up-steaming-hot-take-about-voting-for-trump-being-unconstitutional/

(https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/015/945/Double_Facepalm_by_ScotlandForLife.jpg)
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: nddons on January 18, 2020, 02:02:28 PM

 Ever see the reaction of the playground bully when he get's a bloody nose?   Yep, the same reaction the MSM is having right now.

^^^^^Bingo.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 18, 2020, 06:15:35 PM
I guess people would be happier if kept to himself and didn't get things done.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 18, 2020, 06:21:00 PM
I guess people would be happier if kept to himself and didn't get things done.

Those two things aren't necessarily related.

Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 18, 2020, 06:52:26 PM
Those two things aren't necessarily related.


Possibly not, but you're asking him to change who he is, something he's not going to do.  How easily could you change the way you are?  What I like most is how he pushes back and he's showing others how it can be done.


Levine had Tom Cotton on tonight of Fox, it was a good show.  One thing Cotton mentioned was how many previous Presidents promised to move the Embassy in Israel, yet Trump actually carried through on it even though people said how horrible it would be and the mess it would create. 


Concerning the Articles of Impeachment, one of them is Obstruction of Congress.  I don't believe Congress truly has the authority to investigate the President. If so, the President has just as much right to investigate them.  They say obstruction because folks wouldn't respond to subpoenas. Notice, the only recourse the House would have is to take it to court. That they don't have an enforcement method, means they don't have the authority to hand them out.


I may not have explained that very clearly. Go listen to the first hour of today’s Monica Perez show. She's on WSB in Atlanta. Not sure when the podcast of the show gets posted.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 18, 2020, 07:52:09 PM

 How easily could you change the way you are? 

Not easily, but I like to think I learned a thing or two as I matured.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Number7 on January 18, 2020, 08:57:44 PM
Not easily, but I like to think I learned a thing or two as I matured.

Maybe, but the swamp wasn’t consulted when America elected Donald Trump President

AND THAT is the only real problem.

You are being manipulated by the media to believe the bullshit you are spinning, because it’s far easier to go along with the shit stream than think for yourself and test the information for truth.

Did you feel any compulsion to whine like a pussy every time hilary fucking clinton opened her stupid mouth and spouted nothing but shit?

Nope?

I wonder why???

I suppose you weren’t directed to by the force of the press and their controllers.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Little Joe on January 19, 2020, 01:10:57 AM
I guess people would be happier if kept to himself and didn't get things done.
That's ridiculous.  It's not all or nothing.


Did you feel any compulsion to whine like a pussy every time hilary fucking clinton opened her stupid mouth and spouted nothing but shit?

Nope?

I wonder why???
That too is absolutely fucking wrong and has nothing to do with Trump.   Hillary makes me want to gag everytime she opens her mouth.

You guys are proving Steingar right about one thing though.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Number7 on January 19, 2020, 02:57:35 AM
That's ridiculous.  It's not all or nothing.
That too is absolutely fucking wrong and has nothing to do with Trump.   Hillary makes me want to gag everytime she opens her mouth.

You guys are proving Steingar right about one thing though.

Hit too close to home, huh???
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 19, 2020, 05:26:31 AM
...

I suppose you weren’t directed to by the force of the press and their controllers.

I suspect that someone doesn't understand my ridicule of labels...
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Little Joe on January 19, 2020, 05:26:56 AM
Hit too close to home, huh???
I might be a little slow, but I just figured out that you must be a troll.  Nobody could be that stupid or obtuse.  Or perhaps it is just that fiction writing you do that is rubbing off.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Number7 on January 19, 2020, 06:02:32 AM
I might be a little slow, but I just figured out that you must be a troll.  Nobody could be that stupid or obtuse.  Or perhaps it is just that fiction writing you do that is rubbing off.


...or you don't like people holding up a mirror to your posts.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Rush on January 19, 2020, 06:27:31 AM
I haven’t had my coffee. What did we prove Steingar right about?

Or I will just go away and come back in two hours and reread this page and it will all make sense.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Anthony on January 19, 2020, 06:31:38 AM

Possibly not, but you're asking him to change who he is, something he's not going to do.  How easily could you change the way you are?  What I like most is how he pushes back and he's showing others how it can be done.


Levine had Tom Cotton on tonight of Fox, it was a good show.  One thing Cotton mentioned was how many previous Presidents promised to move the Embassy in Israel, yet Trump actually carried through on it even though people said how horrible it would be and the mess it would create. 


Concerning the Articles of Impeachment, one of them is Obstruction of Congress.  I don't believe Congress truly has the authority to investigate the President. If so, the President has just as much right to investigate them.  They say obstruction because folks wouldn't respond to subpoenas. Notice, the only recourse the House would have is to take it to court. That they don't have an enforcement method, means they don't have the authority to hand them out.


I may not have explained that very clearly. Go listen to the first hour of today’s Monica Perez show. She's on WSB in Atlanta. Not sure when the podcast of the show gets posted.

I think Eppy hit on it here.  We can't change who Trump is and nor do we want to change him.  The occasional Tweet, or statement that we think is immature, or too harsh is worth his personality which GETS THINGS DONE that are positive.

That being said.  I have no problem with people questioning Trump's judgment when he does this.  I don't consider it whining, but maybe it is wishful thinking that he is going to change anytime soon.  When Trump needs to be "Presidential" sounding he is just that.  Then the Media accuses him of "just reading from a script" which is probably true, but so what?  They all read from teleprompters.  Obama made it an art form.  When he went off prompter he sounded like he was still toking with the Choom Gang.   
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2020, 07:15:30 AM

Possibly not, but you're asking him to change who he is, something he's not going to do.  How easily could you change the way you are?  What I like most is how he pushes back and he's showing others how it can be done.


Levine had Tom Cotton on tonight of Fox, it was a good show.  One thing Cotton mentioned was how many previous Presidents promised to move the Embassy in Israel, yet Trump actually carried through on it even though people said how horrible it would be and the mess it would create. 


Concerning the Articles of Impeachment, one of them is Obstruction of Congress.  I don't believe Congress truly has the authority to investigate the President. If so, the President has just as much right to investigate them.  They say obstruction because folks wouldn't respond to subpoenas. Notice, the only recourse the House would have is to take it to court. That they don't have an enforcement method, means they don't have the authority to hand them out.


I may not have explained that very clearly. Go listen to the first hour of today’s Monica Perez show. She's on WSB in Atlanta. Not sure when the podcast of the show gets posted.

 There is no such thing as "obstruction of congress".   Had congress really wanted something, they have the judicial branch (courts) in which to seek relief.  They rejected this because it didn't meet their timeline.

 Congress could have also requested a Special Counsel to investigate, however they also rejected that because they would have to request that through Attorney General, and the request would have been rejected.

 Pelosi, Schiff and Nadler have created a clown show of epic proportions and the country will pay the price.   And a dangerous precedent has now been set to use impeachment as a means to attempt to overturn elections, something the founders did not want to see happen.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Little Joe on January 19, 2020, 08:08:28 AM
I haven’t had my coffee. What did we prove Steingar right about?

Or I will just go away and come back in two hours and reread this page and it will all make sense.
Steingar says everyone on this board will defend Trump, even when he is wrong or says stupid shit.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2020, 08:47:14 AM
Steingar says everyone on this board will defend Trump, even when he is wrong or says stupid shit.

Steingar also says a lot of real stupid shit.  So your point is?

 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 19, 2020, 09:01:58 AM
Steingar says everyone on this board will defend Trump, even when he is wrong or says stupid shit.
And we do not do that. Nearly every response has included some criticism of the God Emperor.

 ;D
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 19, 2020, 09:06:02 AM
The latest stupid shit from our President.  ;D

He can’t get $25 million for a border wall, but NYC wants $200 billion for a sea wall for Manhattan?

'Get your mops & buckets ready': Trump opposes sea wall around New York City

Trump:

"A massive 200 Billion Dollar Sea Wall, built around New York to protect it from rare storms, is a costly, foolish & environmentally unfriendly idea that, when needed, probably won’t work anyway. It will also look terrible. Sorry, you’ll just have to get your mops & buckets ready!"

READ MORE HERE....
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/get-your-mops-buckets-ready-trump-opposes-sea-wall-around-new-york-city
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Rush on January 19, 2020, 09:10:54 AM
Steingar says everyone on this board will defend Trump, even when he is wrong or says stupid shit.

Ah, thanks! I've had my coffee but don't have time to read through the thread, on my way out to have lunch.

That's certainly not true in my case. When Trump is wrong, I will spell it out not only on a forum, but, I actually tell Trump about it, like the snail mail letter I just sent him.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Username on January 19, 2020, 09:11:10 AM
I'm all for a wall around New York.  I'll even contribute.  Then send in Snake Plissken to take care of business.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Little Joe on January 19, 2020, 09:14:23 AM
Steingar also says a lot of real stupid shit.  So your point is?
I guess my point is that no one is right all the time, and no one is wrong all the time.

But I guess someone will find fault with that statement.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Anthony on January 19, 2020, 09:18:02 AM
I guess my point is that no one is right all the time, and no one is wrong all the time.

But I guess someone will find fault with that statement.

For whatever reason, you have developed a persecution complex here.  I don't know why, but I don't read every post either.  A number of us, including me has criticized Trump when we disagree.  He is not perfect, and occasionally shoots himself in the foot with stupid statements.  I don't think it happens often enough to be an issue RELATIVE TO HIS PERFORMANCE. 

I hope you feel free to make it an issue, or bring up issues in which you disagree with him.  You may be surprised that many if not most of us may agree. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Rush on January 19, 2020, 09:31:53 AM
I agree with 99% of what Little Joe says.  Where is my ride?  I'm hungry!
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: David on January 19, 2020, 09:49:50 AM
He just tweeted:


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Your 2nd Amendment is under very serious attack in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. That’s what happens when you vote for Democrats, they will take your guns away. Republicans will win Virginia in 2020. Thank you Dems!
I think I’m staying home from work tomorrow. :rofl:
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Little Joe on January 19, 2020, 10:19:39 AM
For whatever reason, you have developed a persecution complex here.  I don't know why, but I don't read every post either.  A number of us, including me has criticized Trump when we disagree.  He is not perfect, and occasionally shoots himself in the foot with stupid statements.  I don't think it happens often enough to be an issue RELATIVE TO HIS PERFORMANCE. 

I hope you feel free to make it an issue, or bring up issues in which you disagree with him.  You may be surprised that many if not most of us may agree.
No, I don't think I have a persecution complex. I think most people on this board just refuse to admit the truth for some reason.  If you say anything that doesn't tow the party line you become the enemy.  That's not right.

I agree (as I have said several times) with all the comments saying we accept Trump for what he is because he is doing a great job in almost all respects.  I'm not about to turn my back on him because he occasionally says some stupid shit.  I just wish he wouldn't say that stupid shit.  If I have to accept listening to that stupid shit, and listening to my in-laws repeating it over and over, it is worth it to get the tax cuts, the regulation rollbacks, the China trade agreement, the USMCA agreement etc.

But just because I don't like some things he says, our local troll says I must love everything Hillary Clinton says.  I love Trump. (That is entirely different than saying I fell in love with him).  I believe his winning the Presidency is the most important thing that happened to our country in many decades.  Before he was elected, I felt our country was doomed to repeat the socialist mistakes of other countries..  But now I have hope for this country.  But I still wish he wouldn't stupid shit and give the libs so much ammunition so often.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 19, 2020, 11:29:39 AM
I’ve posted this before but it bears repeating.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qUGT30gGtiI

Everything he said was spot on and MUCH more palatable to all ears than his normal tone.  I realize this thread is not about his tone; CONTENT is the issue.

I agree, Joe, that it gets tiresome hearing the libs repeat his boo-boo statements. My reply is that he does a lot and says a lot, and is constantly on the move on behalf of America and Americans.

Hell, if he said 1/100th of what he says now, the left would STILL latch onto every utterance and spin it. He knows that, so he gives them a lot to sift through and then deluges them with more, drowning out the last statement that twisted their panties.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 19, 2020, 11:43:43 AM
I wish Trump would attack the spending problem more. Not sure why he chooses not to battle the spending at this point in time.  We, as a country, cannot sustain the current level of spending.

I also don't like that he chose Wray as his FBI Chief. Not sure who made that suggestion, but I believe a little searching would have turned him up as a swamp rat. So far, it appears that Barr was an excellent choice and I hope he pays dividends.  Sooner rather than later would be good, I hope the delay is to make sure they have air tight cases and not playing politics for an October surprise kind of thing.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2020, 11:45:40 AM
The leftist OBSESS over everything Trump says.  And they OBSESS over what they think he said.

BHO said some really, really stupid shit.  The MSM looked the other way, and if anyone called it out, they were called a racist.  Even our hard core liberals here wouldn’t call him out on it.   

 Now we hear “See what he said!!!!!” With demands we call him out.   Sorry, not playing that shit.  It’s like the inquisition where we here “Denounce him or die”. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Number7 on January 19, 2020, 11:50:21 AM
Little shoe is full of shit and wants to whine like a pussy because that tactic often wins.

The fact is that no one said he loves everything hilary says. HE made that out of what I posted because Gabe has this complex about being but hurt if anyone calls out bullshit.
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Lucifer on January 19, 2020, 11:50:52 AM
I wish Trump would attack the spending problem more. Not sure why he chooses not to battle the spending at this point in time.  We, as a country, cannot sustain the current level of spending.

I also don't like that he chose Wray as his FBI Chief. Not sure who made that suggestion, but I believe a little searching would have turned him up as a swamp rat. So far, it appears that Barr was an excellent choice and I hope he pays dividends.  Sooner rather than later would be good, I hope the delay is to make sure they have air tight cases and not playing politics for an October surprise kind of thing.

The spending problem needs the support of congress, which he doesn’t have. The congress of 2016-2018 was run by a RINO, with no help there.   Get a republican led congress back and spending can be addressed. 

 Wray was a huge mistake. His time will come, but not until after the election, or possibly at the conclusion of the Durham Investigation. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Anthony on January 19, 2020, 11:55:29 AM
Little shoe is full of shit and wants to whine like a pussy because that tactic often wins.

The fact is that no one said he loves everything hilary says. HE made that out of what I posted because Gabe has this complex about being but hurt if anyone calls out bullshit.

There's nothing wrong with pointing out when Trump says stupid stuff and/or when he is wrong on policy or actions.  I don't think anyone here, except the usual subjects, certainly not Joe, is either an advocate for Hillary, or a Trump hater. 
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 20, 2020, 08:41:56 PM
The President’s current pinned tweet video is awesome.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Title: Re: Why does Trump say stupid shit like this?
Post by: nddons on January 21, 2020, 08:20:34 AM
The President’s current pinned tweet video is awesome.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Outstanding!