PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on January 18, 2020, 08:57:20 AM
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https://thepilotsplace.com/forum/index.php?threads/shutting-the-pilots-place-down.767/#post-12931
Well, well. Talk about hypocrisy. The owner is butt hurt over political content that doesn't always reinforce his Progressive, Far Left beliefs. Cry me a river! What a woos!
Yet he is fine with burning 100LL for fun, but believes in the Green New Deal. Gotta love a liar!
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Libs can't stomach either free speech, or anyone pointing out the utter hypocrisy of liberalism.
Pilot's Place is just another in a long line of examples.
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Libs can't stomach either free speech, or anyone pointing out the utter hypocrisy of liberalism.
Pilot's Place is just another in a long line of examples.
He's bitching about declining activity, but if you read his post, the real reason is one political thread he doesn't particularly like, but since people are being civil, he can't delete the content under HIS OWN RULES. So what does he do? Takes his marbles, and goes home, crying to Mommy. LOL!
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That guy is a fuckwad. I tried his little forum, but when I saw what a blathering hypocrite he was, I asked to delete my account.
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I keep forgetting it exists.
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I keep forgetting it exists.
Yep.
He wanted to create a liberal safe place. The aviation content sucked.
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Yep.
He wanted to create a liberal safe place. The aviation content sucked.
That's the blatant hypocrisy. For whatever reason, maybe because IT types tend to be liberal/progressives, these forums always have the Leftist bias. They require Leftist Affirmative Action to promote only that viewpoint. Liberal/Progressives love it because their views aren't questioned and shown to be pure crap. It is a "liberal safe place" as you state. Pilot Spin is NOT and that's why they don't have the BALLS to come here.
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That's the blatant hypocrisy. For whatever reason, maybe because IT types tend to be liberal/progressives, these forums always have the Leftist bias. They require Leftist Affirmative Action to promote only that viewpoint. Liberal/Progressives love it because their views aren't questioned and shown to be pure crap. It is a "liberal safe place" as you state. Pilot Spin is NOT and that's why they don't have the BALLS to come here.
What little time I spent there it looked like a drama factory.
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I love the “I might shut this down unless I receive praise and accolades” post. Sounds like when some people here have threatened to leave.
Why people are incapable of simply ignoring threads or posts they don’t want to see is beyond me.
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Make sure people there know this place...
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Brian can be quite temperamental. He was a regular on the Purple Board, especially the “Last Thread” there. Something or someone upset him and he left and went and started The Pilots Place the first time and tried to get all of us to go to his board. I don't think it lasted a month or two.
This time he was sure had a sure thing with the Red Board shutting down, just hasn't turned out that way. Not sure who ver there would come here. Certainly worth posting on the Political forum. Perhaps he won't get mad for poaching his members.
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He went to other aviation forums poaching members on this go around, which I thought was rather lame.
Then when someone here mentioned PS on his forum he took the post down, IIRC. He's a drama queen.
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Was wondering how long it would take for this thread to get started here :rofl:
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Was wondering how long it would take for this thread to get started here :rofl:
Why so funny? I think it is relevant in the aviation community, of which we are a part, to point out HYPOCRISY, and unethical behavior where it exists. Is it not?
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Why so funny? I think it is relevant in the aviation community, of which we are a part, to point out HYPOCRISY, and unethical behavior where it exists. Is it not?
I don’t have a position on that one way or another. Just knew it would get started here and have been checking in periodically to see if it had. That’s all.
The rofl was to show the harmless, good natured ribbing interned by my post. You can choose to interpret it how you will–I can’t control that, Anthony.
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I don’t have a position on that one way or another. Just knew it would get started here and have been checking in periodically to see if it had. That’s all.
The rofl was to show the harmless, good natured ribbing interned by my post. You can choose to interpret it how you will–I can’t control that, Anthony.
I wasn't being judgmental David. Just asking the question. No worries! :)
Being an un-moderated forum, we are "allowed" to discuss other websites here, as well as anything else!
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I wasn't being judgmental David. Just asking the question. No worries! :)
Being an un-moderated forum, we are "allowed" to discuss other websites here, as well as anything else!
Certainly.
All good. :cheers:
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For whatever reason, maybe because IT types tend to be liberal/progressives, these forums always have the Leftist bias.
I've noticed this as well, almost all of the IT people I know are left leaning. Chicken, or egg?
Partway through college I came to a crossroads and had to pick computers or engineering, I went to the engineering side. And at least in my experience, engineers seem to lean more to the right.
Chicken, or egg?
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I've noticed this as well, almost all of the IT people I know are left leaning. Chicken, or egg?
Partway through college I came to a crossroads and had to pick computers or engineering, I went to the engineering side. And at least in my experience, engineers seem to lean more to the right.
Chicken, or egg?
In previous lives (before opening my own business) I navigated both worlds of IT and Engineering and I found a similar situation. Most of the pure IT guys were liberal and most of the pure engineers were conservatives. I assumed there were several reasons for this, but the primary thing I saw was that most engineers were older and most IT guys were younger. As the saying goes:
"If you are under 40 and a conservative, you have no heart. If you are over 40 and a liberal, you have no brain".
The undeveloped brains of younger people tend to be more idealistic and therefore liberal. Sometimes after 40, the realities of life and the further brain development brings out the conservative. Later in life as the brain begins to degrade and the muscles begin to deteriorate, and life slams you own weaknesses into view and you become more dependent on others (and government), many people often return to liberalness.
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Very interesting. I’ve always thought engineers were more likely to be conservative because they have to use natural, immoveable laws to build things that actually work, whilst IT usually involves mostly the manipulation of information in a limited number of ways.
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Very interesting. I’ve always thought engineers were more likely to be conservative because they have to use natural, immoveable laws to build things that actually work, whilst IT usually involves mostly the manipulation of information in a limited number of ways.
I meant to say that too. :)
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Very interesting. I’ve always thought engineers were more likely to be conservative because they have to use natural, immoveable laws to build things that actually work, whilst IT usually involves mostly the manipulation of information in a limited number of ways.
Good analysis. Software "engineers" are definitely left leaning, vs those of us who deal with real objects. With most software, the behavior can be changed to correct mistakes after release; with hardware, it has to be right when it leaves the factory, hence "conservative" design.
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Good analysis. Software "engineers" are definitely left leaning, vs those of us who deal with real objects. With most software, the behavior can be changed to correct mistakes after release; with hardware, it has to be right when it leaves the factory, hence "conservative" design.
This 'left leaning' bias would be a little different in the defense industry.
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I’m not sure that’s why. I think it’s because engineering is a very old discipline and software writing relatively recent as a field, so fewer venerable old mentors and more youthful upstarts.
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I’m not sure that’s why. I think it’s because engineering is a very old discipline and software writing relatively recent as a field, so fewer venerable old mentors and more youthful upstarts.
code slinging isn't new. By now the are many venerable old mentors in software.
I know a few engineers that wouldn't work defense contracts on principal.
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code slinging isn't new. By now the are many venerable old mentors in software.
I know a few engineers that wouldn't work defense contracts on principal.
Hell, stuff I touch every day goes into the missile that smote the lovely Iranian general, and there's a strong possibility that some of the imaging stuff we make may have been involved as well.
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code slinging isn't new. By now the are many venerable old mentors in software.
I know a few engineers that wouldn't work defense contracts on principal.
But those venerable old software mentors are from universities over only the last half century, whereas engineering is at least 5,000 years old. Computer science wasn’t a thing in universities until well after they started skewing left. Prior to the 60s, “computing” was a mechanical process. Even in the 80s when I was a student, computer classes were basically electives. Today, you can’t function if you don’t integrate computer technology into your education. The explosion of software technology ran parallel, chronologically, to the declining percent of professors who identify as conservative.
So I think it’s possible that engineering may have retained a culture more connected to tradition, and to the country as a whole, both urban and rural, whereas the software geniuses tended to come predominantly from urban more progressive communities.
I might be wrong, there might be psychological characteristics that lead conservatives and liberals into engineering or IT respectively.
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I might be wrong, there might be psychological characteristics that lead conservatives and liberals into engineering or IT respectively.
I worked over 30 years in the defense industry, primarily in software (software engineering). There was no shortage of people working software and/or IT and there was no left leaning amoung them. Sure, some were more liberal and some were more conservative. But no evidence of a particular bias.
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I worked over 30 years in the defense industry, primarily in software (software engineering). There was no shortage of people working software and/or IT and there was no left leaning amoung them. Sure, some were more liberal and some were more conservative. But no evidence of a particular bias.
But that was in the DEFENSE Industry. Different animal from the very large, global software firms I've been associated with. Not as a software engineer, but as a real estate consultant. Also Silicon Valley is very, very leftist.
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But that was in the DEFENSE Industry. Different animal from the very large, global software firms I've been associated with. Not as a software engineer, but as a real estate consultant. Also Silicon Valley is very, very leftist.
Of course. But don't think that the defense industry doesn't use/develop software.
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Of course. But don't think that the defense industry doesn't use/develop software.
Oh, I know it does, I worked for them too. In fact they are now pretty much all technology companies. The large firm I worked for was mostly ex Navy and Air Force and were in bed with the NSA, and all DOD branches and it was almost ALL software, and hardware based.
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I might be wrong, there might be psychological characteristics that lead conservatives and liberals into engineering or IT respectively.
That's exactly right. Computer science has traditionally been a "creative" process. I've had a lot of discussions with my wife (engineer) about computer science being an art vs. an engineering discipline. I've always been in the "art" side of the room. Back in the 70s when learning CS my friends and I would compete against each other to produce the tightest, most elegant code. A week later we couldn't figure out how it worked. And that's code I wrote! Being an art, I've found that creative types such as artists, musicians, and others of that persuasion are really good at software. That's still true today, and could explain the left-leaning of programmers.
My first job was in software maintenance, digging through core dumps and tracing the cause of broken linked lists. Through that, I learned that software development must be an engineering discipline... enter software engineering. There is no benefit in having elegant code if it has to be rewritten to maintain it. Saving a few cycles is meaningless if it costs thousands to figure out how the thing works.
So I use an engineering mindset when writing code for money. I write cool elegant artful code for fun.
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In keeping with thread title, see how these women turn and leave when reasonsble questions are asked. Fun viewing ... also encouraging that attendance seems to be sparse. I think it’s down to truly irredeemable idiots now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ut8gat2c3T0
Part 2, also a hoot.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LJFeTWKAloo&feature=youtu.be
“Rachel Maddow is going to save the world.” Haaaaaahahahaha!!!
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Gotta love those with minds clamped shut.
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In keeping with thread title, see how these women turn and leave when reasonsble questions are asked. Fun viewing ... also encouraging that attendance seems to be sparse. I think it’s down to truly irredeemable idiots now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ut8gat2c3T0
Part 2, also a hoot.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LJFeTWKAloo&feature=youtu.be
“Rachel Maddow is going to save the world.” Haaaaaahahahaha!!!
Watch some of Kaitlin Bennett’s videos. Same thing. She exposes the morons on the left.
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Watch some of Kaitlin Bennett’s videos. Same thing. She exposes the morons on the left.
In case some don't know Kaitlin is a big Second Amendment supporter and was a college student that after graduation, LEGALLY carried an AR-15 on her college campus to highlight the hypocrisy of the college not allowing students to legally conceal carry a firearm if qualified and licensed.
She does interviews in and around colleges on Free Speech and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Liberal/Progressives and academic types (same thing) make total fools out of themselves regularly. It is hilarious.