PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on January 20, 2020, 04:22:36 PM
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Starts Weds, January 22cd.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/01/trump-impeachment-trial-charges-lack-indictable-offense/
Something is missing from the charges against Trump: An impeachable offense.
Thought experiment No. 1: Suppose Bob Mueller’s probe actually proves that Donald Trump is under Vladimir Putin’s thumb. Fill in the rest of the blanks with your favorite corruption fantasy: The Kremlin has video of the mogul-turned-president debauching himself in a Moscow hotel; the Kremlin has a bulging file of real-estate transfers through which Trump laundered racketeering proceeds for Putin’s favored mobsters and oligarchs; or Trump is recorded cutting a deal to drop Obama-era sanctions against Putin’s regime if Russian spies hack Democratic accounts.
Thought experiment No. 2: Adam Schiff is not a demagogue. (Remember, this is fantasy.) At the very first televised hearing, when he alleged that President Trump told Ukrainian president Zelensky, “I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent . . . lots of it,” Schiff was not defrauding the public. Instead, impeachment’s Inspector Clouseau can actually prove that Trump was asking a foreign government to manufacture out of whole cloth evidence that Vice President Biden and his son were cashing in on the former’s political influence (as opposed to asking that Ukraine look into an arrangement so objectively sleazy that the Obama administration itself agitated over what to do about it).
What do these two scenarios have in common, besides being fictional? Answer: If either of them were real, we’d already be talking about President Pence’s upcoming State of the Union address.
This is the point that gets lost in all the endless chatter over impeachment strategy and procedure. Everything that is happening owes to the fact that we do not have an offense sufficiently grave for invocation of the Constitution’s nuclear option. If we had one, the machinations and the posturing would be unnecessary — even ridiculous.
Why are we talking about how Chairman Schiff, Speaker Pelosi, and House Democrats rushed through the impeachment inquiry without making a real effort to interview key witnesses?
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/01/20/breaking-senate-majority-leader-mcconnell-lays-out-ground-rules-for-trumps-impe-n2559826
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They are correct, no USC codes were cited in the Articles. I'm beginning to think this is just a trial run for the future. Trying to show they can impeach for anything at any time.
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They are correct, no USC codes were cited in the Articles. I'm beginning to think this is just a trial run for the future. Trying to show they can impeach for anything at any time.
It is a very, very dangerous precedent. It allows a legal election to potentially be overturned for purely political reasons. The opposition party just disagrees with the result. This is Republic altering stuff.
I'm still making CARTRIDGES in the basement. :)
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They are correct, no USC codes were cited in the Articles. I'm beginning to think this is just a trial run for the future. Trying to show they can impeach for anything at any time.
Yep. We've now entered a time where anyone can be impeached for anything. Look for SC justices to be next.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/breaking-jim-jordan-john-ratcliffe-mark-meadows-debbie-lesko-elise-stefanik-lee-zeldin-and-doug-collins-join-president-trumps-legal-team/
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I'm still making CARTRIDGES in the basement. :)
I always feel so special when I understand an inside joke.
Tim
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It is a very, very dangerous precedent. It allows a legal election to potentially be overturned for purely political reasons. The opposition party just disagrees with the result. This is Republic altering stuff.
I'm still making CARTRIDGES in the basement. :)
Progressive or single stage press? I only load for my hunting rifles, so single stage is all I've needed so far, but have been thinking of upgrading my press.
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Progressive or single stage press? I only load for my hunting rifles, so single stage is all I've needed so far, but have been thinking of upgrading my press.
I have both, and typically use the progressive for pistol rounds that I shoot a lot. I shoot more pistol than rifle. I will make some odd ball calibers in a single stage press for rifle, and some pistol. 7.5mm French for MAS 49/56 rifle, and 7.65 French Longue for a SACM 1935A pistol, and 7.63 Mauser for a Mauser C-96 pistol. I like surplus and unusual guns.
I buy 5.56 and 7.62x39 in bulk so don't make them unless I am really going for accuracy then I will reload for 5.56/.223. Oh, and I do load for .30 Carbine because the ammo for my USGI Inland M1 Carbine has become so expensive.
If you are going to go with a progressive, the Dillon 550 or 650 are hard to beat. They aren't cheap, but buy once, cry once.
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I have both, and typically use the progressive for pistol rounds that I shoot a lot. I shoot more pistol than rifle. I will make some odd ball calibers in a single stage press for rifle, and some pistol. 7.5mm French for MAS 49/56 rifle, and 7.65 French Longue for a SACM 1935A pistol, and 7.63 Mauser for a Mauser C-96 pistol. I like surplus and unusual guns.
I buy 5.56 and 7.62x39 in bulk so don't make them unless I am really going for accuracy then I will reload for 5.56/.223. Oh, and I do load for .30 Carbine because the ammo for my USGI Inland M1 Carbine has become so expensive.
If you are going to go with a progressive, the Dillon 550 or 650 are hard to beat. They aren't cheap, but buy once, cry once.
I've found state auctions sites that sell bulk pistol and rifle that are LE leftovers. But I recently picked up a .44 lever action, and don't feel like spending $40 a box for ammo.
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I've found state auctions sites that sell bulk pistol and rifle that are LE leftovers. But I recently picked up a .44 lever action, and don't feel like spending $40 a box for ammo.
I'm in the same boat with .45 Colt for my SAA. Maybe start out by just getting the .44 Magnum dies for your single stage press. That will allow you to make both .44 Special and .44 Mag. I can crank out 100 rounds an hour on a single stage, and that's with doing everything including priming.
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I'm in the same boat with .45 Colt for my SAA. Maybe start out by just getting the .44 Magnum dies for your single stage press. That will allow you to make both .44 Special and .44 Mag. I can crank out 100 rounds an hour on a single stage, and that's with doing everything including priming.
I'm the kind person that is always playing around with different loads. I don't have a go to recipe for anything.
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I'm the kind person that is always playing around with different loads. I don't have a go to recipe for anything.
That's fun to do. I tend to stick with what is accurate for target loads, and then a close to Max load to simulate a defensive cartridge, depending on the type of gun of course. I like bullet weights typically in the middle of the weight range, but again that depends on the caliber and the gun also. It all depends what you are doing. Hunting, target shooting for accuracy, competition, defense, etc.
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That's fun to do. I tend to stick with what is accurate for target loads, and then a close to Max load to simulate a defensive cartridge, depending on the type of gun of course. I like bullet weights typically in the middle of the weight range, but again that depends on the caliber and the gun also. It all depends what you are doing. Hunting, target shooting for accuracy, competition, defense, etc.
I like accurate myself. I can't take the recoil of my 300 WSM anymore, so I've been trying to go with lighter loads.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/schiff-led-house-managers-accuse-mcconnell-of-rigged-senate-impeachment-trial-rules/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/schiff-led-house-managers-accuse-mcconnell-of-rigged-senate-impeachment-trial-rules/
Poor babies. The dems can't stack the deck like the did in the house and play by their own made up rules anymore.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/this-is-going-to-be-like-killing-a-fly-with-a-sledgehammer-its-going-to-get-ugly-rep-john-ratcliffe-destroys-sham-impeachment/
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So the HOUSE "investigation" or "inquiry" or "hearing" wasn't rigged? Only "witnesses" that were Democrat, Far Left supporters and liars. But, that's OK? I am not saying the R's should do that, but the Dems and Media are the biggest hypocrites known to Man.
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Local morning talk guy (Libertarian) believes it all just so the Dems will have good commercials for the campaign this year.
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Local morning talk guy (Libertarian) believes it all just so the Dems will have good commercials for the campaign this year.
That's a big part of it. If they actually get lucky, they possibly could screw up and actually get an indictment (not likely).
The dims know they have no one running worth a damn. I can bet you the dims are heading to a brokered convention, with only knows what being selected. This is a hail mary pass in a desperate effort to smear Trump in the election.
Listening to opening arguments on the terms of the trial today, it's easy to see the desperation of the dims.
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Schiff's eyes have almost popped out several times today. He's visibly rattled by Trump's defense team, and he's also not comfortable with not being in control of the process.
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The problem is the MEDIA "reports" that the House inquiry was just fine and above board, but the evil Republicans in the Senate will rig this to acquit Trump. Therefore he is still an illegitimate President and we can say that all the way to the election.
Remember they started this process BEFORE Trump was even sworn in. Democrat/Media alliance.
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Schiff's body language is very telling. The dims house managers are very agitated while the President's legal team is calm and collected.
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Klobachar just ran out and is speaking to the press. Senators are not suppose to be giving interviews and speaking on the case.
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Klobachar just ran out and is speaking to the press. Senators are not suppose to be giving interviews and speaking on the case.
Kick her out for the rest of the trial and don't allow her to vote.
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Kuck her out for the rest of the trial and don't allow her to vote.
She's a dim, so nothing will be said, or done.
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It's absolutely incredible that the president's "political rivals" have a vote (pre-determined to convict) and can actively participate for the prosecution in his trial
(so-called.)
Kangaroo court, anyone?
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One of the arguments has been that Trump is working to fix the election. Does anyone here thinks Trump feels he needs any help getting reelected?
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One of the arguments has been that Trump is working to fix the election. Does anyone here thinks Trump feels he needs any help getting reelected?
Projection.
The only way the dims can win in November is to fix the election, which is the purpose of the impeachment.
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One of the arguments has been that Trump is working to fix the election. Does anyone here thinks Trump feels he needs any help getting reelected?
I think the Impeachment is helping Trump as a lot of people see him as a victim now, which is really incredible considering his personality and persona. But when have almost the entire MEDIA, both domestic and international against him, plus all the Democrats nationwide, and their Progressive, Globalist counterparts worldwide, it is understandable.
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All of the Schumer amendments were tabled last night with straight party line votes. Nadler blew a gasket.
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I think the Impeachment is helping Trump as a lot of people see him as a victim now, which is really incredible considering his personality and persona. But when have almost the entire MEDIA, both domestic and international against him, plus all the Democrats nationwide, and their Progressive, Globalist counterparts worldwide, it is understandable.
yeah.
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Are you playing the Trump is a victim card?
;-)
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The real victim of this impeachment hoax is the American people.
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The real victim of this impeachment hoax is the American people.
concur
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yeah.
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Are you playing the Trump is a victim card?
;-)
Oh yeah, you're right. Trump isn't a Female, POC, Lesbian, PC, Woke, SJW, anti (legal) gun, Muslim DEMOCRAT.
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A down side to yesterday was the House managers got to introduce a lot of stuff as evidence just by arguing the amendments.
If you haven't seen this yet......
https://twitter.com/i/status/1219661000556847107
Can't find a straight link to it.
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A down side to yesterday was the House managers got to introduce a lot of stuff as evidence just by arguing the amendments.
If you haven't seen this yet......
https://twitter.com/i/status/1219661000556847107
Can't find a straight link to it.
Yep. However, their droning, and hysterics are only making this more painful for the 4 senators they are targeting. And remember, it's not about the people watching, it's all about the senators voting.
Even through the theatrics and hysteria, ALL of Schumer's amendments got voted down. The longer the dims try to drag this out, the more determined the republicans will become to end it.
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It's absolutely incredible that the president's "political rivals" have a vote (pre-determined to convict) and can actively participate for the prosecution in his trail (so-called.)
Kangaroo court, anyone?
If a potential juror in a criminal trial came out and said how they will vote before the trial started, they would be dismissed. Same rules should apply.
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If a potential juror in a criminal trial came out and said how they will vote before the trial started, they would be dismissed. Same rules should apply.
In reality then, they should all be disqualified.
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If a potential juror in a criminal trial came out and said how they will vote before the trial started, they would be dismissed. Same rules should apply.
How can they have an impeachment trial with no senators?
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How can they have an impeachment trial with no senators?
They can't. ergo; problem solved.
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yeah.
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Are you playing the Trump is a victim card?
;-)
There’s a difference between a real victim and self styled default victimhood just because you belong to a minority group. (I know you know that, I see your winky face.)
Maybe a better word would be underdog. Sometimes people root for someone just because he’s being unfairly piled on by everyone else. I think that’s a fair description of how this impeachment might backfire on the Dems.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/video-nadler-goes-nuts-accuses-gop-senators-of-treacherous-votes-cover-up-and-voting-against-the-us-for-rejecting-schumer-subpoenas-for-trump-impeachment-trial/
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Here it is, in a nut shell:
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1220115171953315842
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Here it is, in a nut shell:
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1220115171953315842
Translation: We know we can't legally beat Trump in an election because he is doing too well as President as evidenced by every indicator we can identify. Therefore we will try to remove him from office, and if we can not, at least smear him enough to effect the election. If re-elected we will continue to claim he is an illegitimate President due to whatever false accusation in which we can come up and have the Media repeat, over, and over, and over.
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rand-paul-were-close-to-dismissing-all-charges-45-senators-on-board/
“I will push it at some point. The more Adam Schiff speaks, the more we become unified.”
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/cnn-hack-tweets-out-overheard-convo-between-gop-senators-panicking-about-impeachment-later-admits-he-made-it-all-up/
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Translation: We know we can't legally beat Trump in an election because he is doing too well as President as evidenced by every indicator we can identify. Therefore we will try to remove him from office, and if we can not, at least smear him enough to effect the election. If re-elected we will continue to claim he is an illegitimate President due to whatever false accusation in which we can come up and have the Media repeat, over, and over, and over.
That’s the clearest definition of “fairly won” I’ve ever seen.
So now an election is only fairly won if a D wins it. Got it.
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Today, 21 Attorneys General filed a brief urging rejection of the House articles of impeachment.
…”If not expressly repudiated by the Senate, the theories animating both Articles will set a precedent that is entirely contrary to the Framers’ design and ruinous to the most important governmental structure protections contained in our Constitution: the separation of powers”…
South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson along with twenty additional State AG’s, submit a 14-page briefing (download here) to the United States Senate warning of the danger of not rejecting a purely partisan political impeachment effort. The Attorneys’ General note the current impeachment proceedings are “fundamentally flawed as a matter of constitutional law.” Their concerns echo points starting to be realized by Senators.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/01/22/21-state-attorneys-general-submit-legal-brief-urging-senate-to-reject-articles-of-impeachment/
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I wonder if Chief Justice Roberts has the authority to dismiss the charges...
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I wonder if Chief Justice Roberts has the authority to dismiss the charges...
The answer is no. The senate has that authority.
Article 1, Section 3
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
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I wonder if Chief Justice Roberts has the authority to dismiss the charges...
No. According to the constitution, the Chief Justice only presides when the President is the one being tried. Article 2 section 4 states the impeachment process applies only to the president, vice president, and civil officers of the United States. So when anyone other than the President is being tried, the Vice President presides, per Article 1, Section 3, Clause 4. And in that clause his only authority is to break tied votes. Since the Vice President would become President on a conviction, he has a conflict of interest, so the authors of the constitution substituted the Chief Justice. Therefore the Chief Justice has no more say in the proceedings than the Vice President has when others are tried, which is mostly ceremonial and limited to whatever authority the Senate deems fit to grant.
(As best I can make out, anyway.)
Oh, here are the Senate Impeachment Rules from 1868 for historical reference (these are of course out of date):
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/pdf/1_1868ImpeachmentRules.pdf (https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/pdf/1_1868ImpeachmentRules.pdf)
EDITED TO ADD:
This link does a good job of explaining the role of the Chief Justice in presidential impeachments:
https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ (https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/)
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I wonder if Chief Justice Roberts has the authority to dismiss the charges...
Don't believe he has the authority to do anything.
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Don't believe he has the authority to do anything.
I guess the best way to describe his role, it's as an umpire.
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The reason for asking if the Chief Justice could dismiss the charges was thinking about a judge can dismiss a case (criminal or civil) when it is obvious that it would be in favor of the defendant. For example, when the charges are completely without merit (as in the case of this impeachment).
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The reason for asking if the Chief Justice could dismiss the charges was thinking about a judge can dismiss a case (criminal or civil) when it is obvious that it would be in favor of the defendant. For example, when the charges are completely without merit (as in the case of this impeachment).
Understood.
In the case of impeachment, he doesn't have that authority, it still requires the senate to determine that.
Right now there are 45 senators ready to vote to dismiss (according to Rand Paul). He stated the more they have to listen to Schiff, the more unified they become.
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And now this: https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/john-solomon-breaking/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/reports-schiff-led-house-managers-have-senators-in-agony-and-bored-out-of-their-minds-at-impeachment-trial/
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And now this: https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/john-solomon-breaking/
Dems will merely dismiss that as irrelevant.
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He stated the more they have to listen to Schiff, the more unified they become.
That was exactly the effect the speech had on me as I watched it from the treadmill at the gym.
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Dems will merely dismiss that as irrelevant.
Of course. Schiff spent yesterday constantly repeating "quid pro quo", although there is nothing in the articles, nor is there any proof of a quid pro quo. He also interjected, again, language not found in the transcripts of the phone call.
Keep digging that hole.
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That was exactly the effect the speech had on me as I watched it from the treadmill at the gym.
Treadmill is the perfect analogy. Russia Russia Russia repeated endlessly going nowhere. At least there's a benefit to a gym treadmill.
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And now this: https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/john-solomon-breaking/ (https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/john-solomon-breaking/)
Love it!
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I hope the corruption of Joe and Hunter Biden comes out completely in this escapade.
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I hope the corruption of Joe and Hunter Biden comes out completely in this escapade.
don't count on it.
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“The left, being not terribly imaginative, always accuse you of what they're doing themselves. So, in this case, President Trump is charged with interfering with the 2020 election by men who have been interfering with the 2016 and 2020 elections for over three-and-a-half years now. Which is why we have the preposterous spectacle of four Democrat presidential candidates preparing to vote to remove from office the guy they're running against.”
—Mark Steyn
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/01/the_impeachment_shows_third_act_will_focus_on_schiffs_lies_and_evil_plans_.html
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THIS IS INSANE. IS ANYONE BUYING THIS CRAP???
https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/22/adam-schiff-is-already-claiming-the-illegitimacy-of-a-trump-reelection/
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Remember, from here on out there can never again be a duly elected Republican President. You might remember that Bush Jr was "selected, not elected" and now Trump is illegitimate. It will always be something. Only Democrats can legally be elected and serve.
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Remember, from here on out there can never again be a duly elected Republican President. You might remember that Bush Jr was "selected, not elected" and now Trump is illegitimate. It will always be something. Only Democrats can legally be elected and serve.
I'd like to revisit that thought in a year from now. Unless Trump wins big, you may be right.
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Remember, from here on out there can never again be a duly elected Republican President. You might remember that Bush Jr was "selected, not elected" and now Trump is illegitimate. It will always be something. Only Democrats can legally be elected and serve.
The reason the Democrats get away with these lies is the Media enables them. Almost all Media that people watch including Entertainment and Social Media (which reinforces the Fake News Media) preaches the Leftist mantra. Whether it was against Bush, who they now love, or Trump which of course they hate with a passion.
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I'd like to revisit that thought in a year from now. Unless Trump wins big, you may be right.
Agreed. It’s going to take a popular, not just electoral, landslide to put a stop to this Democrat play for power. Otherwise they will continue to push two things 1) the narrative that any Republican won by cheating and 2) the electoral college is unfair anyway and needs to be done away with.
It is vital for the survival of our nation to turn the popular vote away from these radical monsters that have got hold of the Democrat party.
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Agreed. It’s going to take a popular, not just electoral, landslide to put a stop to this Democrat play for power. Otherwise they will continue to push two things 1) the narrative that any Republican won by cheating and 2) the electoral college is unfair anyway and needs to be done away with.
It is vital for the survival of our nation to turn the popular vote away from these radical monsters that have got hold of the Democrat party.
I agree, but it is going to be hard for Trump and any future Republican to convincingly win the Popular Vote, or win the Popular Vote at all. Yes, we all know the Popular Vote it totally IRRELEVANT to the election of a President. However, the Dem/Media alliance is so powerful they've convinced many that the Electoral College is antiquated and "One Person One Vote" for Presidential elections should be the policy.
The Metro areas (Cities, Suburbs and now Ex-Burbs) are solidly Democrat. They are so populous that I doubt a Republican can win the Popular Vote in the future. It is a demographic shift that will destroy the USA as we know it.
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/unforced-error-by-schiff-pisses-off-murkowski/
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/01/24/schiff-alienates-jury-with-quote-that-gop-heads-will-be-on-a-pike-n2560097
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/01/24/im-sorry-this-is-happening-to-you-jerry-nadler-loses-it-and-calls-trump-a-dicta-n2560092
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Say what you want about Adam Schitt, but he is doing what no one, even Donald Trump, has been capable of doing. Schitt is almost single handedly turning Collins and Murkowsky towards Trump. Well done, sir. Well done.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/politics/2020/01/25/schiff-head-on-a-pike-senate-impeachment-trial-raju-vpx.cnn
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I agree, but it is going to be hard for Trump and any future Republican to convincingly win the Popular Vote, or win the Popular Vote at all. Yes, we all know the Popular Vote it totally IRRELEVANT to the election of a President. However, the Dem/Media alliance is so powerful they've convinced many that the Electoral College is antiquated and "One Person One Vote" for Presidential elections should be the policy.
The Metro areas (Cities, Suburbs and now Ex-Burbs) are solidly Democrat. They are so populous that I doubt a Republican can win the Popular Vote in the future. It is a demographic shift that will destroy the USA as we know it.
I'm not so sure about that. The unemployment rate in Florida just dropped to 3%.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/business/2020/01/24/floridas-unemployment-rate-hits-3-percent-lowest-on-record/
More people working means fewer sucking the government teat, and more people that want their taxes low. That doesn't mean people will vote Republican, but it does take away some of the reasons for voting Democrat, especially among blacks. Women may be a lost cause though.
I'm hoping that the next round of tax cuts targets the middle class. They amount to over half the tax payers and I would much rather have that many people deciding where to spend their money than have the government decide.
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EBT Cards (Food Stamps) have been reduced greatly under Trump because people are working. They reached RECORD HIGHS under Obama but all the Democrats (Progressives) say how great the economy was under Comrade Barack. What a joke.
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EBT Cards (Food Stamps) have been reduced greatly under Trump because people are working. They reached RECORD HIGHS under Obama but all the Democrats (Progressives) say how great the economy was under Comrade Barack. What a joke.
Don't forget.... nancy said that an unemployment check is the GREATEST job creation plan in the world.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-defense-team-schiff-not-credible
President Trump’s defense team opened their arguments against impeachment by attacking the credibility of lead Democratic impeachment manager Adam Schiff.
“Impeachment shouldn’t be a shell game,” lead impeachment attorney Pat Cipollone told senators.
A group of Trump’s defense team argued for only two hours against the two articles of impeachment charging Trump with obstruction of Congress and abuse of power.
The lawyers said the House case left out exonerating facts and included evidence provided by Schiff, who they argued has credibility problems.
“His credibility is going to start to tank through this whole process,” Sen. Mike Braun, an Indiana Republican, told reporters after the trial adjourned for the day.
The managers read the transcript of Schiff’s mock translation of President Trump’s July 25 call with Ukraine’s president. Schiff was widely criticized for rewriting the transcript to make it sound more incriminating.
Trump’s lawyers read both the transcript of Trump’s call, followed by Schiff’s false version, which Schiff read at the opening of a critical hearing.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/01/25/schiffs-pathetic-response-to-trumps-defense-team-n2560102
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I'm hoping that the next round of tax cuts targets the middle class. ...
who do you think benefited from the last round?
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who do you think benefited from the last round?
He must be listening to his wife or the Media. ;D
The first round of Trump tax cuts were a solid MIDDLE INCOME EARNER tax cut, but the Media says otherwise, so it must be true, right? ::)
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who do you think benefited from the last round?
He must be listening to his wife or the Media. ;D
The first round of Trump tax cuts were a solid MIDDLE INCOME EARNER tax cut, but the Media says otherwise, so it must be true, right? ::)
I know the last round benefited the middle class. I even pointed out that the unemployment rate in Florida is down to 3%, thanks to the cut. More middle class people are working and paying taxes than ever. Fewer of them are on food stamps.
But notice that I said "targets" the middle class. The last round was good for the middle class because it targeted mostly the job creators. That was a good thing. And more of those job creators gave existing employees raises and bonuses. Now, thanks to the tax cut, more people have jobs.
And now that there are more people in the middle class making more money than ever, we should TARGET them. Allow them to keep EVEN more of their own money to spend as they see fit. Not give it to the government for them to spend.
Sheesh. I don't have a persecution complex. You guys just persecute anyone that doesn't say exactly what you think they should, without even trying to figure out what they are really saying.
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Sheesh. I don't have a persecution complex.
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Roll your eyes if you want to. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I don't tolerate fools as much as I used to.
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I know the last round benefited the middle class. I even pointed out that the unemployment rate in Florida is down to 3%, thanks to the cut. More middle class people are working and paying taxes than ever. Fewer of them are on food stamps.
But notice that I said "targets" the middle class. The last round was good for the middle class because it targeted mostly the job creators. That was a good thing. And more of those job creators gave existing employees raises and bonuses. Now, thanks to the tax cut, more people have jobs.
And now that there are more people in the middle class making more money than ever, we should TARGET them. Allow them to keep EVEN more of their own money to spend as they see fit. Not give it to the government for them to spend.
Sheesh. I don't have a persecution complex. You guys just persecute anyone that doesn't say exactly what you think they should, without even trying to figure out what they are really saying.
All good there Joe. ;D
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I know the last round benefited the middle class. I even pointed out that the unemployment rate in Florida is down to 3%, thanks to the cut. More middle class people are working and paying taxes than ever. Fewer of them are on food stamps.
But notice that I said "targets" the middle class. The last round was good for the middle class because it targeted mostly the job creators. That was a good thing. And more of those job creators gave existing employees raises and bonuses. Now, thanks to the tax cut, more people have jobs.
And now that there are more people in the middle class making more money than ever, we should TARGET them. Allow them to keep EVEN more of their own money to spend as they see fit. Not give it to the government for them to spend.
Sheesh. I don't have a persecution complex. You guys just persecute anyone that doesn't say exactly what you think they should, without even trying to figure out what they are really saying.
You are exactly right, I was disappointed to discover my mother paid slightly more. My brother did too because of the change in employee expense deductions. But I saved a lot because of the small business deduction.
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I knew people who were complaining that since they got a lower tax refund amount this year, they were paying more in taxes. One guess which party they vote for.
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Georgia currently has record low unemployment
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Well, isn't the timing on this interesting?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/01/27/dems-demand-bolton-testify-n2560153
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/01/27/bolton-n2560152
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/perfect-timing-anonymous-sources-claim-bolton-book-manuscript-accuses-trump-of-tying-ukraine-aid-to-biden-investigations/
Seems Bolton needs to up his advance and sell some books, and the dims need a reason to force witnesses.
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Roll your eyes if you want to. I'm just getting to the point in my life where I don't tolerate fools as much as I used to.
;)
Then don't act like one when people raise a legitimate objection.
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And , as suspected, the head Senate RINO speaks up.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/right-on-cue-mitt-romney-calls-for-john-bolton-to-testify/
No problem, let him testify. But so does Adam Schiff, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Ciramella and BHO.
Can't wait to see how the dims will attempt to prevent republican witnesses.
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They will attempt to restrict it to one D and one R as some sort of "trade." But fair would be no D and unlimited R after the one-sided House circus.
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They will attempt to restrict it to one D and one R as some sort of "trade." But fair would be no D and unlimited R after the one-sided House circus.
It’s my belief they don’t actually want witnesses. What they are after is the senate to deny them so they can call the trial “illegitimate”.
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/susan-collins-issues-statement-on-john-bolton/
Another RINO joins in.
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Have you heard the Vindman's brother is the one going thru the manuscript for national security. Hmmm, wonder who might have leaked this.
People need to be fired, NOW.
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/susan-collins-issues-statement-on-john-bolton/
Another RINO joins in.
"fairness to both parties" - huh?
The "honorable" senator from Maine should consider that her responsibility is to the American people.
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It’s my belief they don’t actually want witnesses. What they are after is the senate to deny them so they can call the trial “illegitimate”.
That’s why the GOP should call their bluff. Fine, you want witnesses, you got witnesses. Bernie and Warren can sit in DC for 6 months to a year as senators (can’t leave) while the courts handle the inevitable separation of powers arguments legitimately raised by Team Trump.
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That’s why the GOP should call their bluff. Fine, you want witnesses, you got witnesses. Bernie and Warren can sit in DC for 6 months to a year as senators (can’t leave) while the courts handle the inevitable separation of powers arguments legitimately raised by Team Trump.
That's the fantasy, the GOP is ball-less and has been for a long time. At the very least Roberts should be forced to disqualify voting by any senator that was or is a political opponent of Trump in 2016 and 2020, as well as those who have gone public with "guilty as charged" before a trial.
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Wait, wasn't Bolton the guy who wasn't part of whatever drug deal was being run?
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Democrats use to hate John Bolton. Now he is their hero.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Wow, Tucker Carlson eviscerated Bolton tonight.
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That's the fantasy, the GOP is ball-less and has been for a long time. At the very least Roberts should be forced to disqualify voting by any senator that was or is a political opponent of Trump in 2016 and 2020, as well as those who have gone public with "guilty as charged" before a trial.
Roberts can't disqualify anyone. He's merely ceremonial and an umpire.
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Wow, Tucker Carlson eviscerated Bolton tonight.
Tucker has always had a hard on against Bolton.
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The democrats are really worried the voters are going to interfere with the upcoming election.
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Never Trumper Napolitano was of Fox this morning talking about how Roberts could force Bolton to testify despite a claim of executive privilege by the WH and any district court upholding it.
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Never Trumper Napolitano was of Fox this morning talking about how Roberts could force Bolton to testify despite a claim of executive privilege by the WH and any district court upholding it.
The more Napolitano speaks, the harder it's to believe he was ever a judge, or lawyer.
Roberts can't force anything. And if the WH claimed executive privilege, the house managers would have to get a court order to over ride it.
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The more Napolitano speaks, the harder it's to believe he was ever a judge, or lawyer.
Roberts can't force anything. And if the WH claimed executive privilege, the house managers would have to get a court order to over ride it.
The fact that Fox News still has that biased idiot on shows how the Murdoch sons have taken over.
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https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/11/14/beyonce-set-to-perform-at-trump-impeachment-halftime-show/
"Beyoncé Set To Perform At Trump Impeachment Halftime Show"
Best part is the comments. Way to many people think it is true.
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Democrats use to hate John Bolton. Now he is their hero.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Sounds like McCain when he pooped on Trump.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Sounds like McCain when he pooped on Trump.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
And George W. Bush, Romney, Collins, Murkowski.......and anyone else they can use to bash Trump.
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The more Napolitano speaks, the harder it's to believe he was ever a judge, or lawyer.
Roberts can't force anything. And if the WH claimed executive privilege, the house managers would have to get a court order to over ride it.
You’re exactly right. I don’t know what has happened to Napolitano, but he’s sounding like a flaming idiot. Maybe it’s a desperate attempt to keep his job at Fox. Or maybe it’s just syphilis.
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You’re exactly right. I don’t know what has happened to Napolitano, but he’s sounding like a flaming idiot. Maybe it’s a desperate attempt to keep his job at Fox. Or maybe it’s just syphilis.
He's pissed off because Trump wouldn't consider him for the SC. A very bad case of sour grapes.
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Today was question and answer.
Summation: John Bolton, witnesses, John Bolton, witnesses, John Bolton, witnesses, John Bolton, We hate Trump, John Bolton, witnesses
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Today was question and answer.
Summation: John Bolton, witnesses, John Bolton, witnesses, John Bolton, witnesses, John Bolton, We hate Trump, John Bolton, witnesses
Thanks for the summary. Have not been watching. Wake me if we end up with a President Pence.
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It's beginning to look like this may finally be over by Friday. Rumblings are there are enough votes to block witnesses and take a vote to acquit.
After today's question and answers, it's becoming more apparent the senators have had enough of the Schitt Show.
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Thanks for the summary. Have not been watching. Wake me if we end up with a President Pence.
Me too. I feel like I am missing something historic but just can’t watch it.
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I watched the whole thing. Painful.
I will say the Trump team have been spot on and carried out a great defense by sticking to facts and the law. They remained calm and deliberate.
The house managers have ran a circus, and have argued laughable prosecution. They really did a lot of damage to themselves in the process.
In the end, the Trump team reminded the senate if they go down this path, they will set a precedent on all future impeachments, and it will damage the constitution. And they are correct.
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I watched the whole thing. Painful.
I will say the Trump team have been spot on and carried out a great defense by sticking to facts and the law. They remained calm and deliberate.
The house managers have ran a circus, and have argued laughable prosecution. They really did a lot of damage to themselves in the process.
In the end, the Trump team reminded the senate if they go down this path, they will set a precedent on all future impeachments, and it will damage the constitution. And they are correct.
I have been catching some Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity on the radio and getting the gist of things. I think that is very true about the future.
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In the end, the Trump team reminded the senate if they go down this path, they will set a precedent on all future impeachments, and it will damage the constitution. And they are correct.
Considering that the democrats haven't been following the law or paying any attention to precendents, it doesn't really matter what precedents are being set by the democrat's despicable behavior.
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Considering that the democrats haven't been following the law or paying any attention to precendents, it doesn't really matter what precedents are being set by the democrat's despicable behavior.
Very true.
The impeachment was rushed through the house, the procedures were intentionally biased against the President, the Speaker did not act IAW the constitution, the articles were drafted with total disregard to the constitution, and the entire process was partisan in every sense of the word.
The Trump Team has pointed out step by step just what a Schitt job this whole process has been, and the senators have taken notice.
I believe the vote will come down Friday.
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I believe the vote will come down Friday.
God I hope so.
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God I hope so.
Just by listening to the senator questions, they are getting fed up. And that's from both sides.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/01/30/msnbc-cuts-to-commercial-break-when-trumps-counsel-asked-what-framers-would-think-of-a-partisan-impeachment-n2560373
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This will establish the precedent that will destroy our democracy in time. The founders built in a series of checks and balances to make certain no one person or group accumulated too much power. The reasoning in the Senate GOP will give rise to a nearly unchecked Presidency. You guys will love it because your Guy is large and in charge. But you'll scream bloody murder when a Democrat does the same thing, and at that point the legality won't be in question.
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This will establish the precedent that will destroy our democracy in time. The founders built in a series of checks and balances to make certain no one person or group accumulated too much power. The reasoning in the Senate GOP will give rise to a nearly unchecked Presidency. You guys will love it because your Guy is large and in charge. But you'll scream bloody murder when a Democrat does the same thing, and at that point the legality won't be in question.
You don't see any problem with what the House did?
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This will establish the precedent that will destroy our democracy in time. The founders built in a series of checks and balances to make certain no one person or group accumulated too much power. The reasoning in the Senate GOP will give rise to a nearly unchecked Presidency. You guys will love it because your Guy is large and in charge. But you'll scream bloody murder when a Democrat does the same thing, and at that point the legality won't be in question.
The Democrats Impeached Trump purely because they didn't like him winning the Presidency and beating Hillary. It is pure political punishment for the past election and to smear him for the next election. THAT IS THE DANGEROUS PRECEDENT SET.
The Democrats have now made it acceptable to use Impeachment to overturn legal elections, purely for political reasons. That is the Danger here, not what the Senate is doing.
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This will establish the precedent that will destroy our democracy in time. The founders built in a series of checks and balances to make certain no one person or group accumulated too much power. The reasoning in the Senate GOP will give rise to a nearly unchecked Presidency. You guys will love it because your Guy is large and in charge. But you'll scream bloody murder when a Democrat does the same thing, and at that point the legality won't be in question.
Would you like to discuss this strictly on the legal formalities involved, or do you want to stick to MSM talking points?
If you would like to speak towards the legal aspect, I'm fine with that. The framers of the constitution actually feared what is taking place with this impeachment. If you read the federalist papers it was discussed, at length the implication of having a purely partisan impeachment effort, and why the constitution was written to prevent such an occurrence.
The democrats have totally subverted the process. Just the way Speaker Pelosi handled the impeachment inquiry is not in line with the constitution as written. The articles have no basis in law, and totally violate the separation of powers. The House keeps alleging "no one is above the law" while they have put themselves above the law.
The House totally ignored the constitution on the inquiry by jumping straight to impeachment. They allege that the executive "obstructed congress" but then failed to seek adjudication through the courts. Had the House followed the provisions of the constitution and sought court orders to compel testimony, then if the executive refused those court orders, then and only then they may have a case. But for expediency they choose to rush through articles in hopes of forcing the senate to go along with them.
The legal precedent if the senate allows the process to continue totally subverts the constitution, and will wipe out executive privilege as well as create a new system where every President will face impeachment over policy disputes.
Do you actually want it this way?
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This will establish the precedent that will destroy our democracy in time. The founders built in a series of checks and balances to make certain no one person or group accumulated too much power. The reasoning in the Senate GOP will give rise to a nearly unchecked Presidency. You guys will love it because your Guy is large and in charge. But you'll scream bloody murder when a Democrat does the same thing, and at that point the legality won't be in question.
Dumb doesn't begin to describe this bullshit, mike. You've done a poor job of regurgitating the msnbc bullshit.
Why don't you be honest and just admit that you hate President Donald J. Trump because you've been told to? It isn't like you've convinced any of us that you think for yourself.
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This will establish the precedent that will destroy our democracy in time. The founders built in a series of checks and balances to make certain no one person or group accumulated too much power. The reasoning in the Senate GOP will give rise to a nearly unchecked Presidency. You guys will love it because your Guy is large and in charge. But you'll scream bloody murder when a Democrat does the same thing, and at that point the legality won't be in question.
To the contrary, the Republic will be damaged beyond repair if the House re-writes Article II, Section 4 to add “Abuse of Power” to the delineated crimes justifying Impeachment.
I believe it was George Mason who wanted to include “maladministration” alongside Treason and Bribery in the Constitution, bet James Madison strongly rejected that because of the implication of having one party use impeachment to resolve simple policy disputes. Madison settled on “High Crimes and Misdemeanors” instead.
If Abuse of Power was considered impeachable, it would have been added by the Founders. But it was not.
It isn’t the President, it is the Legislative Beach trying to accumulate unchecked power.
Historical accuracy aside, do you REALLY think whatever is alleged that Trump did is REALLY an impeachable offense? Serious question.
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What are the odds Steingar isn't going to try to justify what the House did?
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What are the odds Steingar isn't going to try to justify what the House did?
Snowflakes never really have anying to back up their bullshit, which is why they hot and run off like pussies, licking their sore dicks.
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Ahh, good to see, lots of abuse. I was starting to worry.
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I understand MCConnell will be making a brilliant move. When it comes to voting for witnesses, he will NOT vote person by person. That would be unfair for the defense, because the prosecution could stop the defense from calling their own witnesses. Instead, he will have a group vote for all witnesses the sides want presented. Take it or leave it. They want Bolton? Fine. Trump gets Joe and Hunter, and anyone else they want.
This may cause the democrats to vote against witnesses, which would expose their utter hypocrisy.
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Ahh, good to see, lots of abuse. I was starting to worry.
and true to form, you don't defend what the House did.
But cling to your persecution complex, if it makes you happy.
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Ahh, good to see, lots of abuse. I was starting to worry.
Please count the reasonable, cogent posts that respond to yours, and then what you classify as abuse and see which are more numerous. It is pretty obvious where you focus. Is that a way to escape having to discuss the issues?
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Ahh, good to see, lots of abuse. I was starting to worry.
Here's the problem Michael, you show up, sling out MSM talking points then start playing the victim. This is one reason it's so difficult to take you seriously. You want to be the forum troll, then get upset when called out on your trolling.
Go a few post back. I offered to have a discussion with you on the merits of the current impeachment. I gave you my considerations and I'm still awaiting a reply.
If you want to engage in meaningful discussion, please do so. If your only real intent is to troll the forum, then at least be honest about it. I read your post on other forums and you exhibit the same routine on those as well. I personally believe you just like trolling, and you aren't really that good at it.
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Ahh, good to see, lots of abuse. I was starting to worry.
Ok Aunt Peggy. You need a tampon?
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Please count the reasonable, cogent posts that respond to yours, and then what you classify as abuse and see which are more numerous. It is pretty obvious where you focus. Is that a way to escape having to discuss the issues?
Since he probably won't stick around, I count 3 posts questioning him before the first post with any abuse.
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So far today it's been a rehash of everything yesterday. 8 more hours of John Bolton, witnesses, John Bolton, witnesses, John Bolton, we hate Trump, witnesses.............
The dims arguments are truly laughable, and their motives have became crystal clear.
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Wow. The exact same questions, and the exact same answers from yesterday.
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Rand Paul tried to out the whistleblower again, you know, the guy everyone already knows.
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They’re just dragging it out to wallpaper the news cycles with the “I” word, endlessly.
Trump’s got some great ads ... I wonder if, like Google, YouTube and their ilk, the main broadcast networks could take his money but in actuality show the ad less or in different places, or both, without anyone knowing.
What a mess we’re in. Hard to believe.
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Rand Paul tried to out the whistleblower again, you know, the guy everyone already knows.
The danger here is now whistleblower statutes have been weaponized. Unless the senate or the house are willing to investigate how this whistleblower was used, expect to start seeing more anonymous whistleblowers making wild accusations that will ignite congressional investigations and even special prosecutors.
We now will have investigations and trials in which the accused will not be able to confront his accuser, and will have to try to prove his innocence.
This is sickening.
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/madame-speaker-declares-herself-dictator/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/pelosi-says-trumps-lawyers-have-disgraced-themselves-suggests-they-be-disbarred/
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And from the "tolerant left" https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/susan-collins-shares-threatening-voicemails-from-deranged-democrats-vile-f-king-traitor/
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Untucking believable
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The danger here is now whistleblower statutes have been weaponized. Unless the senate or the house are willing to investigate how this whistleblower was used, expect to start seeing more anonymous whistleblowers making wild accusations that will ignite congressional investigations and even special prosecutors.
We now will have investigations and trials in which the accused will not be able to confront his accuser, and will have to try to prove his innocence.
This is sickening.
It could be FAR MORE than that....
This isn't fact checked as of yet, but it does seem rather questionable...
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"Adam Schiff is one sick, crooked politian"
my my, quite the redundancy.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/schiff-comes-unhinged-when-asked-about-his-aide-sean-misko-plotting-with-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-to-take-out-trump-video/
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Lieawatha just shit in her mess kit, once again.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/01/30/draft-n2560439
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Lieawatha just shit in her mess kit, once again.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/01/30/draft-n2560439
Tee Pee need fumigation. Bad medicine follow her many moons. Spirit journey end with flight in Piper Tomahawk. Ugh.
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And from the "tolerant left" https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/susan-collins-shares-threatening-voicemails-from-deranged-democrats-vile-f-king-traitor/
If this doesn’t get her off the “moderate” soapbox and get her on the Trump train, I don’t know what will.
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If this doesn’t get her off the “moderate” soapbox and get her on the Trump train, I don’t know what will.
“F*** you, Senator Collins. On TV I saw you last night. Looks like President Trump and Paul LePage c** ***** were all over where they blew their **** ** *** face. I bet you **** each one of them republican senators, or you want to. You’re a half-pint little f***ing cross-eyed s****** with a voice impediment. You suck. You’re a traitor to your country. What you really are—my vile vitriol really just masks my contempt for you, and that you’re a traitor. You support people like Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. You’re a disgrace, a disgrace to this country. Not just in the Senate, but to you’re country. You’re a f***ing **** traitor. F*** you!”
Sincerely,
Adam Schiff
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If this doesn’t get her off the “moderate” soapbox and get her on the Trump train, I don’t know what will.
That is *not* a good means to motivate people either direction... It shouldn't take a hoard of screaming idiots to encourage people to make rational decisions.
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https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/01/30/democrats-will-back-down-if-gop-stands-firm/
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cult-of-trump-carl-bernstein-trashes-senate-republicans-who-joined-hands-with-a-tyrant
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That is *not* a good means to motivate people either direction... It shouldn't take a hoard of screaming idiots to encourage people to make rational decisions.
Of course not. But it might be the smack upside her head that she needs to realize the left is aggressively engaged in tyranny, and giving them any leeway gets her absolutely nothing.
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Of course not. But it might be the smack upside her head that she needs to realize the left is aggressively engaged in tyranny, and giving them any leeway gets her absolutely nothing.
Collins doesn't care about tyranny, or supporting liberty and freedom. She cares about appealing to as many people in her state as possible to get reelected. That is ALL she cares about. Obviously, she believes there are many anti Trump folks that could/would vote for her so she needs to maintain their interest.
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Collins doesn't care about tyranny, or supporting liberty and freedom. She cares about appealing to as many people in her state as possible to get reelected. That is ALL she cares about. Obviously, she believes there are many anti Trump folks that could/would vote for her so she needs to maintain their interest.
I’m sure that’s true, but to put it in Anthony terms, no matter how good looking they are (I.e. your former wives, or her voting electorate), once they show you that they are totally bat-shit crazy, you may just have to dump them and move on.
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“F*** you, Senator Collins. On TV I saw you last night. Looks like President Trump and Paul LePage c** ***** were all over where they blew their **** ** *** face. I bet you **** each one of them republican senators, or you want to. You’re a half-pint little f***ing cross-eyed s****** with a voice impediment. You suck. You’re a traitor to your country. What you really are—my vile vitriol really just masks my contempt for you, and that you’re a traitor. You support people like Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. You’re a disgrace, a disgrace to this country. Not just in the Senate, but to you’re country. You’re a f***ing **** traitor. F*** you!”
Sincerely,
Adam Schiff
At first I thought I was reading one of Number 7's posts, but then I realized the vocabulary was way too creative and extensive.
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I’m sure that’s true, but to put it in Anthony terms, no matter how good looking they are (I.e. your former wives, or her voting electorate), once they show you that they are totally bat-shit crazy, you may just have to dump them and move on.
Now that's a horse I can ride.
Separately, is Chief Justice Roberts being unbiased here, or is he screwing Trump?
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cnn-anchor-republicans-have-a-good-point-in-wanting-to-question-whistleblower
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cnn-anchor-republicans-have-a-good-point-in-wanting-to-question-whistleblower
Shocking coming from CNN
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/lisa-murkowski-twitter-feed-watch-for-announcement/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/developing-senate-trial-extended-to-next-wednesday-senate-pushes-sham-until-after-scheduled-sotu-address/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/developing-senate-trial-extended-to-next-wednesday-senate-pushes-sham-until-after-scheduled-sotu-address/
I knew it! All this talk of a vote on Friday, I said no way are they voting to acquit by today.
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I knew it! All this talk of a vote on Friday, I said no way are they voting to acquit by today.
The crybabies are angry. Chuckie Schumer wants to drag it out till Weds so it can't happen before the state of the union.
Fuckin' pathetic.
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At first I thought I was reading one of Number 7's posts, but then I realized the vocabulary was way too creative and extensive.
Fuck you very much...😂
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Rand Paul burned John Roberts as well as exposing him.
Here was Rand Paul's exact question: "Are you aware that House intelligence committee staffer Shawn Misko had a close relationship with Eric Ciaramella while at the National Security Council together and are you aware and how do you respond to reports that Ciaramella and Misko may have worked together to plot impeaching the President before there were formal house impeachment proceedings."
Notice the question says nothing about a whistle blower. Nothing.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/rand-paul-speaks-out-on-chief-justice-roberts/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/breaking-senate-votes-against-impeachement-witnesses-51-49/
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I was kind of hoping this whole thing would bust wide open and destroy the globalist cabal. Darn.
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Personally I think Trump should postpone the SOTU until after the vote.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/01/31/trial-vote-delayed-until-next-wednesday-n2560512
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Ahh, good to see, lots of abuse. I was starting to worry.
Mikey WANTS abuse??
Here you go, putz.
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What do the Progressive Globalists have on Roberts?
I'm still bitter..... clinging to my bullet casting apparatus in a well ventilated corner of my garage.
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Just for mikey...
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With the trial conclusion set for next weds, expect "bombshell" revelations to be leaked to the NYT before then.
Turtle should have called the vote tonight and ended it.
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With the trial conclusion set for next weds, expect "bombshell" revelations to be leaked to the NYT before then.
Turtle should have called the vote tonight and ended it.
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Plenty of Republicans in the swamp.
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This will establish the precedent that will destroy our democracy in time. The founders built in a series of checks and balances to make certain no one person or group accumulated too much power. The reasoning in the Senate GOP will give rise to a nearly unchecked Presidency. You guys will love it because your Guy is large and in charge. But you'll scream bloody murder when a Democrat does the same thing, and at that point the legality won't be in question.
Mikey..... You got some splainin to do....
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Personally I think Trump should postpone the SOTU until after the vote.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/01/31/trial-vote-delayed-until-next-wednesday-n2560512
I don't. He may reach people watching the SOTU that only listen to CNN/MSNBC/NPR etc. If he has a good speech, and doesn't say a lot of stupid shit, he might sway a few people on the other side to understand his position. Not many of course, but a few.
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I don't. He may reach people watching the SOTU that only listen to CNN/MSNBC/NPR etc. If he has a good speech, and doesn't say a lot of stupid shit, he might sway a few people on the other side to understand his position. Not many of course, but a few.
Trump NEVER says stupid shit when he makes these types of serious speeches. They are always excellent and he comes off Presidential, rational and very positively for the country. In fact his rally speeches are all good as well. It is some of his Tweets that get immature, IMHO.
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Trump NEVER says stupid shit when he makes these types of serious speeches. They are always excellent and he comes off Presidential, rational and very positively for the country. In fact his rally speeches are all good as well. It is some of his Tweets that get immature, IMHO.
Never say NEVER!
But that's why I want him to give the SOTU before the vote. He has a chance to address many of the American people directly without the liberal MSM filter being applied until afterwards. I think it is a good chance for him to reach a lot of people (voters).
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By delaying the vote give the leftist more time to sabotage the trial. The Kavanaugh hearings were an example.
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By delaying the vote give the leftist more time to sabotage the trial. The Kavanaugh hearings were an example.
I am sure the Dems will come up with something, but not enough to do harm, and this is a done deal.
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By delaying the vote give the leftist more time to sabotage the trial. The Kavanaugh hearings were an example.
Keeps Trump from telling the nation he’s been acquitted to a national audience.
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Keeps Trump from telling the nation he’s been acquitted to a national audience.
Exactly. The new narrative is he hasn't really been acquitted, because, well, you see, it wasn't a real trial, it was rigged, it was a coverup.
The danger is as time goes by, a new "bombshell", "revelation", new witnesses, etc, etc. Turtle should have learned from the Kavanaugh hearings.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/alan-dershowitz-when-trump-is-acquitted-he-will-no-longer-be-impeached-the-impeachment-disappears-video/
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By delaying the vote give the leftist more time to sabotage the trial. The Kavanaugh hearings were an example.
I don't like delaying the vote either. But the question I was addressing was whether he should delay the SOTU until after the vote. I say no. The SOTU should go on as scheduled, whether they have voted on removal or not.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
https://pjmedia.com/trending/why-is-amazon-alexa-telling-people-trump-the-wrong-date-for-trumps-state-of-the-union-address/
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He doesn’t determine the date of the SOTU, it is an invitation from Pelosi
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He doesn’t determine the date of the SOTU, it is an invitation from Pelosi
It's already scheduled. He was invited, and he could still decline the invite and ask for another date. I think he should go along with the scheduled date; vote or no vote.
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Trump should accept the invitation. Then 5 minutes before it starts, have someone hand deliver a letter to congress, and as soon as it is delivered, give his speech from the oval office. Meets all the constitutional requirements, and will give pelosi a stroke.
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Trump should accept the invitation. Then 5 minutes before it starts, have someone hand deliver a letter to congress, and as soon as it is delivered, give his speech from the oval office. Meets all the constitutional requirements, and will give pelosi a stroke.
Sadly, I’ve been indoctrinated with Dem protocol. Here’s how that would roll. Dems would scream and howl 24/7 right up until the election that he spoke from the White House to establish himself as a (falsely) legitimate, invincible ruler. Change my mind.
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Sadly, I’ve been indoctrinated with Dem protocol. Here’s how that would roll. Dems would scream and howl 24/7 right up until the election that he spoke from the White House to establish himself as a (falsely) legitimate, invincible ruler. Change my mind.
Yep. The Dems would accuse him of being cowardly, not wanting to show his face in public, shamed, etc etc. He can’t win for losing.
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Sadly, I’ve been indoctrinated with Dem protocol. Here’s how that would roll. Dems would scream and howl 24/7 right up until the election that he spoke from the White House to establish himself as a (falsely) legitimate, invincible ruler. Change my mind.
You think they won't do that no matter this ends up?
You are talking about psychopathic liars.
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/madame-speaker-looking-unstable-as-she-leaves-the-adrenochrome-clinic/
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https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/481015-how-the-house-lost-the-witness-battle-along-with-impeachment?amp
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/bwahaha-ted-cruz-says-this-desperate-question-by-elizabeth-warren-was-the-deciding-factor-in-impeachment-vote/
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/bwahaha-ted-cruz-says-this-desperate-question-by-elizabeth-warren-was-the-deciding-factor-in-impeachment-vote/
Is Elizabeth Warren TRYING to look like a DYKE or does it just come naturally? Do you think her "partner" is more butch than she is, or does she play the husband role? At least with Hillary and Huma you know who is who.
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Elizabeth Warren has never struck me a very intelligent. She’s a pathological liar, and tries hard to try to make people believe her lies.
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Elizabeth Warren has never struck me a very intelligent. She’s a pathological liar, and tries hard to try to make people believe her lies.
Yeah, but she does a mean Rain Dance. She looks like a chicken getting plucked, but boy can she cackle.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/02/02/mccarthy-puts-pelosi-on-notice-over-impeachment-acquittal-n2560572
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Come Thursday morning President Trump is going to be charged with "Obstruction of Impeachment".
Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi are drawing up the articles right now............
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It's over, President Trump acquitted.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/02/05/its-over-president-trump-acquitted-on-impeachment-charges-n2560835
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/02/05/the-one-tweet-that-captures-why-mitt-romney-is-totally-wrong-fro-betraying-trump-and-the-gop-n2560829
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/02/05/the-one-tweet-that-captures-why-mitt-romney-is-totally-wrong-fro-betraying-trump-and-the-gop-n2560829
Look at the political cartoons on that page, Nancy ripping a document LOL.
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It's over, President Trump acquitted.
It's not over. This battle is over, but more attacks from the left will keep on coming.
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Look at the political cartoons on that page, Nancy ripping a document LOL.
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https://twitter.com/GOPLeader/status/1225170697103847424
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Lol!
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President Trump: As everyone knows my family, our great country, and your president have been put through a terrible ordeal by some very dishonest and corrupt people. They have done everything possible to destroy us and by so doing very badly hurt our nation.
President Trump: We’re grateful to the people in this room for the love they show. Not just one religion but many religions. They’re brave, they’re brilliant, they’re fighters, they like people. And some times they hate people, I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m trying to learn. (laughter) It’s not easy. It’s not easy. When they impeach you for nothing then you’re supposed to like them it’s not easy folks.
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Idiocy in action.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/02/07/wolf-blitzer-has-to-remind-senator-hirono-that-trump-was-acquitted-n2560921
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Hirono is a kook. Hawaii is about as Progressive as it gets, so consider the source. It is an American state in name only.
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Hirono is a kook. Hawaii is about as Progressive as it gets, so consider the source. It is an American state in name only.
Can you imagine if Puerto Rico ever got statehood? Same same.
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Can you imagine if Puerto Rico ever got statehood? Same same.
I've worried about that. Now I'll have nightmares.
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I've worried about that. Now I'll have nightmares.
Me too. I need to take up drinking.
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Me too. I need to take up drinking.
That should become cheaper soon. I am trying to cut back and when demand drops, the price usually follows.
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That should become cheaper soon. I am trying to cut back and when demand drops, the price usually follows.
ROTFL!!! That deserves more than just a “like”.
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