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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on January 29, 2020, 06:50:26 PM

Title: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: Rush on January 29, 2020, 06:50:26 PM
https://www.dutchnews.nl/features/2020/01/the-government-has-declared-war-on-the-self-employed/


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On Thursday, a long-awaited report commissioned by the Dutch government on the future of the labour market has basically stated that the Netherlands’ 1.3 million self-employed need to be eliminated from the workforce.

Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 29, 2020, 07:20:42 PM
I'm sure there are reasons for all the regulation and paperwork.

Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: Number7 on January 29, 2020, 07:53:03 PM
In a word.... unions.

Just like the cunt AOC and her new green deal that includes MANDATORY union membership, it's all about funneling all power and money to government.
Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: Rush on January 29, 2020, 08:27:50 PM
In a word.... unions.

Just like the cunt AOC and her new green deal that includes MANDATORY union membership, it's all about funneling all power and money to government.

That sums it up.
Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 29, 2020, 09:24:57 PM
California is trying to do the same.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/heidilynnekurter/2019/10/31/california-destroys-1-trillion-gig-economy-with-new-law/#5181901c2f0d
Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 30, 2020, 05:48:42 AM
California is trying to do the same.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/heidilynnekurter/2019/10/31/california-destroys-1-trillion-gig-economy-with-new-law/#5181901c2f0d

I'm not turning off ad-blocker, can someone summarize that article, please?

Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: Rush on January 30, 2020, 06:42:14 AM
I'm not turning off ad-blocker, can someone summarize that article, please?

It’s basically the same thing as the Dutch without the mandatory government supplied disability insurance. California wants to “create jobs” by reclassifying independent contractors as employees and “benefit” them by the requisite health insurance etc, but the self -employed don’t want it because they love the freedom and independence of setting their own hours.

The following isn’t in the article but I read elsewhere.  Female Uber drivers work fewer hours than male ones. They are free to do this but if they are forced to be employees they are subject to company scheduling so now Kalifornia will have to make new “part time family leave” laws to accommodate mothers but wait, that’s sexist so they’ll have to apply that to all genders but wait, that means the parent will have to deal with getting bureaucratic permission for personal leave instead of just being free.
Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 30, 2020, 08:27:41 AM
what could possibly go wrong with government intervention?

Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: Rush on January 30, 2020, 09:15:21 AM
what could possibly go wrong with government intervention?

The fundamental difference between liberals, Democrats, leftists... and conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians, is the former want centralized government control of anything involving money, jobs, and the economy, and the latter want to leave control of money, jobs and the economy in the hands of private entities both individual and corporate. That’s it in a nutshell.

In this case, the centralized government control is achieved through laws forcing individuals to join corporations and thereby come under the umbrella of greater government regulation that applies to companies but not the self employed.

In the case of the Dutch, they are attempting to force independent contractors who refuse to join a company into direct subservience to the government through things like mandated disability insurance, and labyrinthine paperwork nonsense. The insurance requirement is similar to the Obamacare requirement that you buy health insurance from the government run platform if you are not an employee whose company provides it. Except the Dutch government has yet to set up the insurance plan, whereas Obama simply provided the outlined requirements for private insurers to participate, and as we know, those restrictions resulted in most insurers pulling out of the market so the whole deal collapsed. Why? Because it was a net loss - meaning ultimately a company would go out of business if it followed the government plan. (You would think that would give these people clue...)

Who is this “centralized government” entity who controls and manages these schemes the left so loves?  One hopes people who are well educated on the subject of the industry they want to control and market economics in general, or at least people with very high IQs.

No. They are elected officials, politicians and bureaucrats whose most prominent personal characteristic is narcissistic appeal that gets them into a position of power and authority and that’s where their genius ends. So we have a bunch of people no better than any of us at understanding markets and worse than a lot of us, with the power to shape and change the whole economy from our personal finances to the aggregate health of the entire nation, implementing their “bright ideas” with no fucking clue of the disastrous consequences of what they force on us. But as long as it enriches their own bank account and keeps them in power that’s all that matters.
Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: Number7 on January 30, 2020, 09:53:12 AM
The fundamental difference between liberals, Democrats, leftists... and conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians, is the former want centralized government control of anything involving money, jobs, and the economy, and the latter want to leave control of money, jobs and the economy in the hands of private entities both individual and corporate. That’s it in a nutshell.

In this case, the centralized government control is achieved through laws forcing individuals to join corporations and thereby come under the umbrella of greater government regulation that applies to companies but not the self employed.

In the case of the Dutch, they are attempting to force independent contractors who refuse to join a company into direct subservience to the government through things like mandated disability insurance, and labyrinthine paperwork nonsense. The insurance requirement is similar to the Obamacare requirement that you buy health insurance from the government run platform if you are not an employee whose company provides it. Except the Dutch government has yet to set up the insurance plan, whereas Obama simply provided the outlined requirements for private insurers to participate, and as we know, those restrictions resulted in most insurers pulling out of the market so the whole deal collapsed. Why? Because it was a net loss - meaning ultimately a company would go out of business if it followed the government plan. (You would think that would give these people clue...)

Who is this “centralized government” entity who controls and manages these schemes the left so loves?  One hopes people who are well educated on the subject of the industry they want to control and market economics in general, or at least people with very high IQs.

No. They are elected officials, politicians and bureaucrats whose most prominent personal characteristic is narcissistic appeal that gets them into a position of power and authority and that’s where their genius ends. So we have a bunch of people no better than any of us at understanding markets and worse than a lot of us, with the power to shape and change the whole economy from our personal finances to the aggregate health of the entire nation, implementing their “bright ideas” with no fucking clue of the disastrous consequences of what they force on us. But as long as it enriches their own bank account and keeps them in power that’s all that matters.

You could summarize all of the above by simply saying, "those fuckers want all the money."
Title: Re: Dutch government to eliminate the self employed
Post by: Anthony on January 30, 2020, 10:22:11 AM
This was behind Obamacare and the current Leftist obsession with Man Made Climate Change as all of the "fixes" are economic redistribution with union mandates.  It is all about government elites and THEIR CRONIES controlling the economy and who gets what.