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Title: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 10, 2020, 09:15:12 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482245-democrats-see-chances-rising-for-brokered-convention?amp
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 10, 2020, 09:36:22 AM
The DNC, their candidates and their Party are a FREAK SHOW. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 10, 2020, 09:58:13 AM
The DNC, their candidates and their Party are a FREAK SHOW.

 And even the dims are starting to acknowledge it.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/when-chuck-todd-piles-on-democrats-you-know-its-bad/

https://nypost.com/2020/02/08/election-night-2020-is-going-to-be-like-groundhog-day-for-dems/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/liberal-media-sounds-the-alarm-over-empty-seats-at-nh-democrat-fundraiser-this-does-not-look-like-an-energized-party-video/

For the dims to survive, they need to get Pelosi out of the Speaker position immediately.   Then they need a moderate to assume the speakership and put a stop to the Schitt Show before it creates anymore damage.   The DNC needs to fire Perez.

 They have the proverbial dumpster fire going and they are trying to put it out with gasoline.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 10, 2020, 10:09:29 AM
The DNC has plenty of time to recover.  Don't know if the DNC will, but the RNC should not get overconfident.

Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 10, 2020, 10:17:10 AM
The big, foreign, globalist money is behind the fringe element which is now more mainstream in the DNC.  They are now openly pushing a Marxist agenda. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 10, 2020, 10:37:49 AM
The DNC has plenty of time to recover.  Don't know if the DNC will, but the RNC should not get overconfident.

Really?  Think they have time to recover?  They are into the primaries right now.  They are headed for a brokered convention.  They don't have a candidate that barely motivates voters.  The ones waiting to get in on a floor fight (Clinton, Bloomberg) are disasters in their own right.

 And the side clown show being run by Pelosi/Schumer/Schiff/Nadler is in overdrive further deteriorating the party.

 But hey, even when the Titanic went down there was a brief moment the ship could have been saved............ ::)
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 10, 2020, 10:44:37 AM
Really?  Think they have time to recover?  They are into the primaries right now.  They are headed for a brokered convention.  They don't have a candidate that barely motivates voters.  The ones waiting to get in on a floor fight (Clinton, Bloomberg) are disasters in their own right.

 And the side clown show being run by Pelosi/Schumer/Schiff/Nadler is in overdrive further deteriorating the party.

 But hey, even when the Titanic went down there was a brief moment the ship could have been saved............ ::)

Remember, the Democrats have the Media, Education, Social Media, Entertainment, Government and Corporate America on their side.  So, yes, they could make a grand comeback.  Maybe not for Trump, because I think they've already written that one off, but after, certainly. 

And as they have normalized Marxism, PC, Woke, Social Justice, younger people think that is NORMAL now. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 10, 2020, 10:54:33 AM
Really?  Think they have time to recover? 

Yes, I do think there is time.  I know the primaries have started, but there is time.  Don't overlook the insanely short attention span of many voters.

However, having said that, I'm fully aware that if the current crop of candidates or candidate wannabees is all the DNC has to offer, the DNC has a long tough uphill battle.

Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Rush on February 10, 2020, 11:14:54 AM
The DNC has plenty of time to recover.  Don't know if the DNC will, but the RNC should not get overconfident.

Absolutely. This morning one of our local talk show hosts was saying how the Dems are registering voters like crazy in targeted counties in Texas, trying to flip the state blue. He said there have been an additional one million voters registered since 2018. Because of the importance of Texas in the electoral college this cannot be ignored. Trump won the popular in Texas by less than one million.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 10, 2020, 11:20:16 AM
Absolutely. This morning one of our local talk show hosts was saying how the Dems are registering voters like crazy in targeted counties in Texas, trying to flip the state blue. He said there have been an additional one million voters registered since 2018. Because of the importance of Texas in the electoral college this cannot be ignored. Trump won the popular in Texas by less than one million.

And I bet many if not most of them are ILLEGAL ALIENS, which according to U.S. law are ineligible to vote, but they do.  That is called purposeful voter fraud by the Democrats. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 10, 2020, 11:27:11 AM
Absolutely. This morning one of our local talk show hosts was saying how the Dems are registering voters like crazy in targeted counties in Texas, trying to flip the state blue. He said there have been an additional one million voters registered since 2018. Because of the importance of Texas in the electoral college this cannot be ignored. Trump won the popular in Texas by less than one million.

 Few things to watch.  Democrat enthusiasm is way, way down.  None of the current crop of candidates are inspiring voters, with the exception of Bernie who's appealing to the young and dumb with "everything is free".   The dims are going to once again sabotage Bernie, which is going to enrage his base and further split the democrat vote.

 One more observation of why Bernie is doing well in the primaries: Republican voters.  In states with open primaries, many conservatives are crossing over and voting Bernie to add fuel to the DNC dumpster fire.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Little Joe on February 10, 2020, 11:37:18 AM
I think both Gabbard and Klobuchar are both under-rated.  And I'm not saying that just because they are women, but that would give them an advantage.  If either or both of them get on the ticket I think they would have a chance.

Never say never.  Look what happened when Hillary got over confident.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 10, 2020, 11:46:47 AM
I think both Gabbard and Klobuchar are both under-rated.  And I'm not saying that just because they are women, but that would give them an advantage.  If either or both of them get on the ticket I think they would have a chance.

Never say never.  Look what happened when Hillary got over confident.

 Klobuchar is a fuckin' moron, and a vindictive one at that.   Her personality is her biggest enemy.

 Gabbard would have a chance.  She checks off many boxes that make her an ideal candidate.  But the DNC wants nothing to do with her, and they've worked diligently to sabotage her.

 Hillary does not want to see any woman get the nomination that could possibly win.  That was her's to have, she was to be the first.  That's why we are hearing rumblings of a possible Hillary VP slot.

 The DNC still has the lingerings of Hillary.  Fire Perez, banish Hillary and they may have a shot.   Ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Little Joe on February 10, 2020, 11:59:33 AM
Klobuchar is a fuckin' moron, and a vindictive one at that.   
I agree.  But that is what will endear her to the voters she is courting.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 10, 2020, 12:04:48 PM
I agree.  But that is what will endear her to the voters she is courting.

 She's not gaining traction. Iowa should have been good to her being midwest, but she only got 12% earning one delegate.   She will not do well in the upcoming primaries.   Hillary has a nasty personality but she also has the Clinton name and legacy.   Klobuchar just has the nasty personality.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Little Joe on February 10, 2020, 12:09:25 PM
I'm not saying she will get the nomination.

I said IF she gets the nomination, she would get more support that most conservatives think possible.  Like the guy that said he'd vote for a yellow dog if he ran on the Democrat ticket.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: texasag93 on February 10, 2020, 04:50:39 PM
Klobuchar is a fuckin' moron, and a vindictive one at that.   Her personality is her biggest enemy.

 Gabbard would have a chance.  She checks off many boxes that make her an ideal candidate.  But the DNC wants nothing to do with her, and they've worked diligently to sabotage her.

 Hillary does not want to see any woman get the nomination that could possibly win.  That was her's to have, she was to be the first.  That's why we are hearing rumblings of a possible Hillary VP slot.

 The DNC still has the lingerings of Hillary.  Fire Perez, banish Hillary and they may have a shot.   Ain't gonna happen.

If HRC were ever VP, the POTUS better be under 24/7/365 suicide watch.   
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 11, 2020, 06:48:16 AM
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Ron22 on February 12, 2020, 06:25:41 AM
Now that New Hampshire is done.
How long before Biden goes away?  If he is not running for office is it ok for Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate him :)
How is the DNC going to screw Sanders out of the nomination this time?
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Mr Pou on February 12, 2020, 06:32:37 AM
How is the DNC going to screw Sanders out of the nomination this time?

Somehow, some way, they will. They know the bulk of America will not vote for an outright socialist.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 06:51:30 AM
Now that New Hampshire is done.
How long before Biden goes away?  If he is not running for office is it ok for Trump to ask Ukraine to investigate him :)
How is the DNC going to screw Sanders out of the nomination this time?

Biden's hopes are on SC.  He is going to bomb there as well, he just doesn't know it yet.   After that, he's done.

Stay tunes, the DNC is working feverishly to dump Bernie.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 12, 2020, 07:02:19 AM
Biden's hopes are on SC.  He is going to bomb there as well, he just doesn't know it yet.   After that, he's done.

Stay tunes, the DNC is working feverishly to dump Bernie.

So if Biden goes down in flames, and the DNC ousts Bernie again, then who will be there to pick up the pieces?  Bloomberg?  Warren doesn't seem to be getting traction, as I think people just view her as Hillary 2.0, and maybe more unlikeable, if that is possible. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Ron22 on February 12, 2020, 07:03:34 AM
So if Biden goes down in flames, and the DNC ousts Bernie again, then who will be there to pick up the pieces?  Bloomberg?  Warren doesn't seem to be getting traction, as I think people just view her as Hillary 2.0, and maybe more unlikeable, if that is possible.

HILLARY
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Ron22 on February 12, 2020, 07:08:56 AM
So if Biden goes down in flames, and the DNC ousts Bernie again, then who will be there to pick up the pieces?  Bloomberg?  Warren doesn't seem to be getting traction, as I think people just view her as Hillary 2.0, and maybe more unlikeable, if that is possible.

I can see it going to Klobuchar.  She is a woman, more center.  I know people here do not like her but face it we do not like any of the options. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 12, 2020, 07:23:25 AM
What do Bernie supporters do if they take it away from him again?
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 12, 2020, 07:24:27 AM
What do Bernie supporters do if they take it away from him again?

Stay home, or write him in.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: jb1842 on February 12, 2020, 07:47:36 AM
What do Bernie supporters do if they take it away from him again?

Scream, cry, blame Trump.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Ron22 on February 12, 2020, 08:00:34 AM
What do Bernie supporters do if they take it away from him again?

Bigger question does Bernie run on a 3rd party ticket. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 08:52:02 AM
So if Biden goes down in flames, and the DNC ousts Bernie again, then who will be there to pick up the pieces?  Bloomberg?  Warren doesn't seem to be getting traction, as I think people just view her as Hillary 2.0, and maybe more unlikeable, if that is possible.

Brokered convention.  This is what Hillary and Bloomberg are counting on.   

And a brokered convention could produce anyone, not just the names being mentioned.  Get ready for a wildcard.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Little Joe on February 12, 2020, 09:03:15 AM
So if Biden goes down in flames, and the DNC ousts Bernie again, then who will be there to pick up the pieces?  Bloomberg?  Warren doesn't seem to be getting traction, as I think people just view her as Hillary 2.0, and maybe more unlikeable, if that is possible.
I'm telling you, it's probably going to be Klobuchar.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Little Joe on February 12, 2020, 09:05:01 AM
What do Bernie supporters do if they take it away from him again?
Logic would say they vote for the next remaining socialist.  But since liberals are emotional rather than logical, they may just vote for Trump out of spite.
 :)
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: nddons on February 12, 2020, 01:57:36 PM
Klobuchar is a fuckin' moron, and a vindictive one at that.   Her personality is her biggest enemy.

 Gabbard would have a chance.  She checks off many boxes that make her an ideal candidate.  But the DNC wants nothing to do with her, and they've worked diligently to sabotage her.

 Hillary does not want to see any woman get the nomination that could possibly win.  That was her's to have, she was to be the first.  That's why we are hearing rumblings of a possible Hillary VP slot.

 The DNC still has the lingerings of Hillary.  Fire Perez, banish Hillary and they may have a shot.   Ain't gonna happen.
That’s the most bizarre thing. You’re right, the DNC is fighting against the most electable democrat (from a Republican’s point of view) in the field in Tulsi Gabbard.

That says volumes as to who is controlling the democrats - Soros can’t abide by a soldier/statesman. Gabbard is her own woman, which doesn’t work with the democrats nowadays.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 02:03:11 PM
That’s the most bizarre thing. You’re right, the DNC is fighting against the most electable democrat (from a Republican’s point of view) in the field in Tulsi Gabbard.

That says volumes as to who is controlling the democrats - Soros can’t abide by a soldier/statesman. Gabbard is her own woman, which doesn’t work with the democrats nowadays.

Listen.  Hear that?  Hear the gnawing, chomping and lip smacking??

 That's the dims eating their own right now.                      Bon Appetit!
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 02:38:31 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/this-tweet-backfired-on-pocahontas/
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 12, 2020, 04:33:32 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/this-tweet-backfired-on-pocahontas/

I still have that image from Warren trying to hide from the camera behind a staffer when she got off the Private Jet.   Nothing to see here!  I'm just a lying, deceptive, hypocrite, i.e. a Democrat. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 07:19:05 PM
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Rush on February 12, 2020, 07:50:14 PM


Who is this guy? I love it!
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 08:28:09 PM
Who is this guy? I love it!

https://tarlwarwick.net/
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 08:44:36 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/deval-patrick-drops-out/
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2020, 08:45:46 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biden-death-spiral-thats-the-opening-bell/
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 13, 2020, 05:02:29 AM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/deval-patrick-drops-out/

talk about a meaningless event... 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 13, 2020, 05:53:46 AM
Meanwhile, still waiting on the final results from Iowa.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 13, 2020, 06:07:07 AM
Meanwhile, still waiting on the final results from Iowa.

1.  Corn
2.  Wheat
3.  Soy
4.  Rice
5.  Sorghum
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Rush on February 13, 2020, 07:07:11 AM
https://tarlwarwick.net/

Wow. Extremely prolific and intelligent content creator on a variety of subjects. Grows over time too, the sign of an actual critical thinker, not a sheep.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Number7 on February 13, 2020, 09:15:47 AM
That's the dims eating their own right now.                      Bon Appetit!

Never forget the fathers (and mothers) of the democrat (communist) party.

(https://scontent.ftpf1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/83973637_132399764920551_5760020970408509440_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=5Mq_Fav6GWkAX-uaP7B&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpf1-2.fna&oh=01fb72c381b126bb89f31393f756907e&oe=5F01B6DB)
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 13, 2020, 12:47:44 PM
https://medium.com/@karlyn/ive-been-a-democrat-for-20-years-here-s-what-i-experienced-at-trump-s-rally-in-new-hampshire-c69ddaaf6d07

Quote
If you had told me 3 years ago that I would ever attend a Donald Trump rally, I would have laughed while assuring you that was never going to happen. Heck, if you had told me I would do it 3 months ago, I probably would have done the same thing. So, how did I find myself among 11,000+ Trump supporters in Manchester NH? Believe it or not, it all started with knitting.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Rush on February 13, 2020, 02:05:45 PM
https://medium.com/@karlyn/ive-been-a-democrat-for-20-years-here-s-what-i-experienced-at-trump-s-rally-in-new-hampshire-c69ddaaf6d07

Brilliant article. I like how she paints the optimism on Trump’s side and the gloomy pessimism of the Democrats.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 13, 2020, 02:30:29 PM
Brilliant article. I like how she paints the optimism on Trump’s side and the gloomy pessimism of the Democrats.

Well the Democrats are the Party of pessimism.  They have to be.  Everyone is a victim due to things that aren't their fault and therefore we need government to step in for everyone of those injustices.

Everything sucks.  There is going to be a recession.  Actually the economy isn't good at all because we've run up so much debt under Trump.  LOL!  Oh, and they're not good jobs.   Only the rich are benefiting from the tax cuts.  And on and on.  The Party of pessimism. 

Where's a Progressive when you need one?  I've been reduced to making their arguments for them!  Ahhhhhhh!
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 15, 2020, 03:32:20 PM
https://pjmedia.com/election/woah-fivethirtyeight-projects-democrats-headed-to-a-brokered-convention-for-now/
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 21, 2020, 07:37:22 AM
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Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 21, 2020, 07:46:52 AM
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Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2020, 06:24:28 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/larry-c-johnson-bernie-sanders-appears-to-be-fading-not-surging/
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 26, 2020, 09:37:06 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/larry-c-johnson-bernie-sanders-appears-to-be-fading-not-surging/

We should know a week from now whether the odds increase that the Democratic convention will be brokered.

The web site fivethirtyeight.com has a page giving their odds of who will win a majority:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/ (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/)

It currently has 2 in 5 (43%) chance no democrat enters with a majority of delegates.
It has the same odds that Sanders enters with a majority.
Biden only 1 in 9 (11%).

They have links to a couple recently published interesting background pieces:

“Why So Many Black Voters Are Democrats, Even When They Aren’t Liberal”
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-so-many-black-voters-are-democrats-even-when-they-arent-liberal/?ex_cid=2020-tracker (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-so-many-black-voters-are-democrats-even-when-they-arent-liberal/?ex_cid=2020-tracker)
(Summary: “Pew Research Center found that a quarter of black Democrats identify as conservative, and 43 percent identify as moderate. [...] How can a big chunk of black voters be unwavering Democrats who differ ideologically from the party? We spent years investigating that question for our new book, “Steadfast Democrats.” We found that black voters are so loyal to the Democratic party in part because of social pressure from other black voters. Rather than throw the whole book at you, we’re going to highlight a couple pieces of evidence that show how that dynamic works.“)

“What Defines The Sanders Coalition?”
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-defines-the-sanders-coalition/?ex_cid=2020-tracker (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-defines-the-sanders-coalition/?ex_cid=2020-tracker)
(Summary: “His base is younger voters and the very liberal [...] He won Latinos, but his coalition is multiracial [...] Many of his backers don’t have a college degree“)
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2020, 02:28:52 AM
We should know a week from now whether the odds increase that the Democratic convention will be brokered.

The web site fivethirtyeight.com has a page giving their odds of who will win a majority:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/ (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/)

It currently has 2 in 5 (43%) chance no democrat enters with a majority of delegates.
It has the same odds that Sanders enters with a majority.
Biden only 1 in 9 (11%).

They have links to a couple recently published interesting background pieces:

“Why So Many Black Voters Are Democrats, Even When They Aren’t Liberal”
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-so-many-black-voters-are-democrats-even-when-they-arent-liberal/?ex_cid=2020-tracker (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-so-many-black-voters-are-democrats-even-when-they-arent-liberal/?ex_cid=2020-tracker)
(Summary: “Pew Research Center found that a quarter of black Democrats identify as conservative, and 43 percent identify as moderate. [...] How can a big chunk of black voters be unwavering Democrats who differ ideologically from the party? We spent years investigating that question for our new book, “Steadfast Democrats.” We found that black voters are so loyal to the Democratic party in part because of social pressure from other black voters. Rather than throw the whole book at you, we’re going to highlight a couple pieces of evidence that show how that dynamic works.“)

“What Defines The Sanders Coalition?”
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-defines-the-sanders-coalition/?ex_cid=2020-tracker (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-defines-the-sanders-coalition/?ex_cid=2020-tracker)
(Summary: “His base is younger voters and the very liberal [...] He won Latinos, but his coalition is multiracial [...] Many of his backers don’t have a college degree“)

This guy says it very well:

Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 27, 2020, 02:40:09 AM
I think the more likely outcome of having a Bloomberg, Bernie, or Warren as the Democrat nominee, many Blacks will just stay home and not vote.  Due to societal pressure, I still don't see many voting for Trump or any Republican, even a Black one.  They've been so steeped in the Democrat plantation mantra for 60 years or so, that they aren't going to change. 

Also, I don't think any of the Democrat candidates appeal to Moderates, and Independents, so they may stay home.  Some will vote for Trump just due to the economy. 
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2020, 03:14:02 AM
I think the more likely outcome of having a Bloomberg, Bernie, or Warren as the Democrat nominee, many Blacks will just stay home and not vote.  Due to societal pressure, I still don't see many voting for Trump or any Republican, even a Black one.  They've been so steeped in the Democrat plantation mantra for 60 years or so, that they aren't going to change. 

Also, I don't think any of the Democrat candidates appeal to Moderates, and Independents, so they may stay home.  Some will vote for Trump just due to the economy.

Another insomniac I see.  :)
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 27, 2020, 03:31:44 AM
Another insomniac I see.  :)
I haven’t had a good night’s sleep since sometime in 2016. I’m wide awake in the wee hours just churning over the Democrat threat, and imagining conversations with or letters to my liberal friends, but really wishing I could just tell them to fuck off and we’ll be friends again when they stop being such asshats.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 27, 2020, 03:44:06 AM
Another insomniac I see.  :)

Yes.  Went to bed way too early, then woke up in the middle of the night.  Often, I'll just have a cup of tea, watch tv or read for an hour, then back to bed.  This time I just cranked up the coffee, and said eff it, I'm up!
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2020, 04:14:41 AM
Yes.  Went to bed way too early, then woke up in the middle of the night.  Often, I'll just have a cup of tea, watch tv or read for an hour, then back to bed.  This time I just cranked up the coffee, and said eff it, I'm up!

Me too, went to sleep early woke up at 1:30 wide awake, never went back to sleep. Watched my iPad in the dark hoping I would drift back off. Finally gave up, got up and made two soft boiled bird embryos and a big mug of coffee, and here I am.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2020, 04:18:52 AM
Lucifer never sleeps....................
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2020, 04:47:21 AM
I haven’t had a good night’s sleep since sometime in 2016. I’m wide awake in the wee hours just churning over the Democrat threat, and imagining conversations with or letters to my liberal friends, but really wishing I could just tell them to fuck off and we’ll be friends again when they stop being such asshats.

I’m right there with you. We could be on the cusp of a golden age of freedom and prosperity, or standing on the edge of an abyss into Hell itself.

Here’s what I read yesterday: communism, as an economic system, is actually dead in Russia and China, really the only places that it still survives is NK and Cuba. The Russians and the Chinese both eventually realized that total state ownership and management of all means of production is disaster. Both thrive now on a form of tolerated capitalism but within an authoritarian state. They are actually conservative in that they hate the West’s new social liberalism (LBTG rights, unlimited immigration).

And the people, now doing well economically, and a couple generations removed from “the revolution” actually love their leaders. They have nationalistic pride. (This more in Russia than China due to China’s continuing human rights violations.) They have contempt for the EU, and for European style socialism, and are bemused at the liberal elite neo-Marxism in the U.S. (!!!) because a) they’ve figured out total communism doesn’t work and b) they hate social liberalism.

So here’s the problem: the left in the U.S. hasn’t figured this out. They look at China and Russia’s current rise and figure communism did all that, it must be great!  Let’s try it in the U.S.! Creaky old Bernie Sanders doesn’t have a grasp on reality; he’s got the old utopian communist theory in mind and hasn’t kept up with the times, and all his young revolutionary followers equally if not more ignorant of reality and hell bent on forcing their sick, failed ideology on our country.

And Putin just sitting there knowing what fuck ups they are, while they imagine he admires them.

So wouldn’t it be sad if the left in the U.S. can’t learn from the mistakes of two huge communist superpowers and takes us down that road for a third time in history. Yes, I worry a lot about this.
Title: Re: The Democrat Primaries
Post by: Anthony on February 27, 2020, 06:00:19 AM
Lucifer never sleeps....................

That worries me more than what Rush and Becky worry about.    :D