PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on March 11, 2020, 07:31:07 PM
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Hate the NBA, but they cancelled their season. Watch a little college basketball due to my alma mater, and now no spectators for March madness. No toilet paper in the stores. What is happening? The Media retards have created full scale panic. Effing lawyers too.
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Just listened to Trump. Suspending all flights from Europe. I didn’t see that coming.
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Just listened to Trump. Suspending all flights from Europe. I didn’t see that coming.
Since the countries of Europe didn’t see any problem with letting the Chinese come and go as they please, now they’re paying the consequences.
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Colleges are suspending face to face classes. Companies are telling people to work from home.
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One upside: less traffic on the road.
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I am now almost 100% convinced the Chinese let this out on purpose. It damages the west far more that it does them, and we know they don't mind sacrificing some of their own.
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The Democrats and Media love this because they can use it to try to make Trump look bad. However, this will be over way, way before the election.
I went out last night, and local restaurant/bars near me were all crowded, so people are still going out and congregating.
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The Democrats and Media love this because they can use it to try to make Trump look bad. However, this will be over way, way before the election.
I went out last night, and local restaurant/bars near me were all crowded, so people are still going out and congregating.
On the flip side, Wednesday night dinner and classes at church are usually nearly full, and it was a ghost town last night. I'm part of the music ministry, and I expect attendance to be way down this coming Sunday. We'll see, but our head pastor says he's not going to change anything worship related based on the virus.
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Second and fourth Thursday, a group of men from church meet to have breakfast at a local cafe. We had our usual group this morning and the cafe had its usual crowd.
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Colleges are suspending face to face classes. Companies are telling people to work from home.
Yep. At my school spring break is extended to March 22 to allow professors to convert their classes to distance learning. Distance until further notice. This will be really hard for those professors who haven't updated their classes in 20 years and don't know technology. Converting to distance is non-trivial. And impossible for those classes that need specialized software or lab equipment that can't be done from home. Should be interesting.
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This is all so stupid. I think at the heart of it is the new germophobe bubblewrap helicoptor parent atmosphere we have now. (And this bug doesn't even kill children.) This sort of hysteria over a simple flu bug that doesn't hurt anyone except the old and infirm (like all flu bugs) would have been incomprehensible in the past. We had other ludicrous hysterias, like the day care sex abuse hysteria in the 1980s and the Salem witch hunts back in the 1690s. Covid-19 is today's version of that kind of mass panic over something that either doesn't exist at all or is nothing out of the ordinary. It's so stupid.
At Walmart yesterday, they had employees wiping down with alcohol the self checkout stations after each customer. My husband told me that at work the company was implementing "policy" where you had to disinfect the land line telephone outside the plant that employees use to call in and get the door buzzed to enter. (My husband told them, "Just tell people to use their own cells.") They were worried about local bleach shortages until he reminded them that the plant has a large tank of sodium hypochlorite on site and they can make their own bleach.
People are losing their minds. I'm not so sure it's all a left wing conspiracy to ruin Trump. I think it's more the zero risk expectations we have come to. Don't get me wrong, the biased media and the rich liberals are absolutely loving the economy crash and rubbing their hands with glee that they think it will destroy Trump, but the hysteria itself is a result of the overprotective anxiety we have nowadays as the default state in a country so rich and healthy we have to actually look for problems to worry about.
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This is all so stupid. I think at the heart of it is the new germophobe bubblewrap helicoptor parent atmosphere we have now. (And this bug doesn't even kill children.) This sort of hysteria over a simple flu bug that doesn't hurt anyone except the old and infirm (like all flu bugs) would have been incomprehensible in the past. We had other ludicrous hysterias, like the day care sex abuse hysteria in the 1980s and the Salem witch hunts back in the 1690s. Covid-19 is today's version of that kind of mass panic over something that either doesn't exist at all or is nothing out of the ordinary. It's so stupid.
At Walmart yesterday, they had employees wiping down with alcohol the self checkout stations after each customer. My husband told me that at work the company was implementing "policy" where you had to disinfect the land line telephone outside the plant that employees use to call in and get the door buzzed to enter. (My husband told them, "Just tell people to use their own cells.") They were worried about local bleach shortages until he reminded them that the plant has a large tank of sodium hypochlorite on site and they can make their own bleach.
People are losing their minds. I'm not so sure it's all a left wing conspiracy to ruin Trump. I think it's more the zero risk expectations we have come to. Don't get me wrong, the biased media and the rich liberals are absolutely loving the economy crash and rubbing their hands with glee that they think it will destroy Trump, but the hysteria itself is a result of the overprotective anxiety we have nowadays as the default state in a country so rich and healthy we have to actually look for problems to worry about.
Agree. This is more than just the Leftist Media hype to get rid of Trump. This is the new norm of SOCIAL MEDIA, narcissistic, Nanny State obsession with safety and security. The kids that had Helicopter, and Snow Plow parents have grown up to expect NO BARRIERS, NO RISKS, and a GUARANTEE of 100% safety. Yet, they drive like morons.
I went to Walmart last night to do some grocery and other shopping and there was NO TOILET PAPER. None. What are people doing with hoarding toilet paper. I didn't intend to by any hand sanitizer, but there was none, and no alcohol.
I guess when people realize I have toilet paper and other essentials they will come after me. :)
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Agree. This is more than just the Leftist Media hype to get rid of Trump. This is the new norm of SOCIAL MEDIA, narcissistic, Nanny State obsession with safety and security. The kids that had Helicopter, and Snow Plow parents have grown up to expect NO BARRIERS, NO RISKS, and a GUARANTEE of 100% safety. Yet, they drive like morons.
I went to Walmart last night to do some grocery and other shopping and there was NO TOILET PAPER. None. What are people doing with hoarding toilet paper. I didn't intend to by any hand sanitizer, but there was none, and no alcohol.
I guess when people realize I have toilet paper and other essentials they will come after me. :)
The toilet paper thing is people fearing they will be quarantined in their homes for weeks on end and you can understand wanting to stock up, but guess what? One doesn’t actually need toilet paper. What did they do back before it was invented? What did they do before disposable diapers and disposable ladies sanitary products?
How did we wipe babies butts before disposable wipes? There was no such thing back in the 60s when I was changing my baby siblings’ diapers. You had soft little cloths. You would grab the big poo with the cloth diaper and dump the chunks in the toilet, then put the diaper in a pail and wash up the baby butt with the little rag, and put it in the pail too. Then you’d wash everything in the pail as a separate laundry load in hot water. Back then you could still get hot water in your washer because we didn’t have “energy efficient” bullshit and “smart” washers that automatically cut your hot water cycle down to barely lukewarm.
What you need most if you end up trapped inside your home is water, and food, in that order. Preferably for the power to stay on too. And firearms and ammo in case things really get out of control. If you run out of toilet paper you can always cut up a sheet. As long as you have water, power and soap, you’re golden.
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Nagging thought that China wants to take Trump out by crashing our economy so they can go back to bleeding us again under a new Dem/Socialist regime.
Standing up for American interests makes one a big target.
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Yep. At my school spring break is extended to March 22 to allow professors to convert their classes to distance learning. Distance until further notice. This will be really hard for those professors who haven't updated their classes in 20 years and don't know technology. Converting to distance is non-trivial. And impossible for those classes that need specialized software or lab equipment that can't be done from home. Should be interesting.
That’s OK. Everyone gets an A and an “I Survived Coronavirus” trophy. Problem solved.
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I bought Whiskey. I stopped drinking alcohol for the most part, but if I am stuck at home, I can use the Whiskey as a disinfectant. One swig on the towel, one swig for me..........rinse and repeat. ;D
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Agree. This is more than just the Leftist Media hype to get rid of Trump. This is the new norm of SOCIAL MEDIA, narcissistic, Nanny State obsession with safety and security. The kids that had Helicopter, and Snow Plow parents have grown up to expect NO BARRIERS, NO RISKS, and a GUARANTEE of 100% safety. Yet, they drive like morons.
I went to Walmart last night to do some grocery and other shopping and there was NO TOILET PAPER. None. What are people doing with hoarding toilet paper. I didn't intend to by any hand sanitizer, but there was none, and no alcohol.
I guess when people realize I have toilet paper and other essentials they will come after me. :)
Here’s a homemade recipe for killing germs Anthony.
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Here’s a homemade recipe for killing germs Anthony.
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Great idea! Beats Chloraseptic!
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A guy that stood next to Trump at MarALago has been diagnosed with the virus.
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Four of the power 5 have cancelled their hoops tournaments. Shame, I'm a big college hoops fan and enjoy the end of year tourneys and March Madness. I image the NCAA will follow suit and kill off the tournament and NIT this year. :(
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So about 3 weeks ago I had a trip to Baltimore. Once in Baltimore, I got a mild sore throat. Nothing bad, but I knew it was there. Finished my business there 3 days later and flew home. Still had minor sore throat, no cough, no sneezing, no fever. 2 days later the sore throat went away, and I got the sniffles for a few hours. Again, no fever and the sniffles quickly subsided, and I got a mild cough with a little phlegm. 7 days afterward, totally gone.
My wife got a mild cold as well, lasted maybe 4 days. A friend just had what he called the flu which for about 24 hours hit him hard and he ran a fever.
So, with all this rambling, I wonder. Did we have the coronavirus? Since no one was tested, how would you know? And this goes for thousands upon thousands around the country as well. Is it here bigger than we realize?
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So about 3 weeks ago I had a trip to Baltimore. Once in Baltimore, I got a mild sore throat. Nothing bad, but I knew it was there. Finished my business there 3 days later and flew home. Still had minor sore throat, no cough, no sneezing, no fever. 2 days later the sore throat went away, and I got the sniffles for a few hours. Again, no fever and the sniffles quickly subsided, and I got a mild cough with a little phlegm. 7 days afterward, totally gone.
My wife got a mild cold as well, lasted maybe 4 days. A friend just had what he called the flu which for about 24 hours hit him hard and he ran a fever.
So, with all this rambling, I wonder. Did we have the coronavirus? Since no one was tested, how would you know? And this goes for thousands upon thousands around the country as well. Is it here bigger than we realize?
I sense it’s probably bigger - and MUCH milder, than most people know.
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So about 3 weeks ago I had a trip to Baltimore. Once in Baltimore, I got a mild sore throat. Nothing bad, but I knew it was there. Finished my business there 3 days later and flew home. Still had minor sore throat, no cough, no sneezing, no fever. 2 days later the sore throat went away, and I got the sniffles for a few hours. Again, no fever and the sniffles quickly subsided, and I got a mild cough with a little phlegm. 7 days afterward, totally gone.
My wife got a mild cold as well, lasted maybe 4 days. A friend just had what he called the flu which for about 24 hours hit him hard and he ran a fever.
So, with all this rambling, I wonder. Did we have the coronavirus? Since no one was tested, how would you know? And this goes for thousands upon thousands around the country as well. Is it here bigger than we realize?
In which case it’s an even bigger nothing burger because that would drive the actual death rate down into the basement. But I doubt you did, you just had garden variety viruses, just like I did last week. But I too did wonder, “what if”.
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I’m 13 days on the way through a cold. Started with sore throat, which is how CV starts. Then runny nose on a generous scale. Which is how CV progresses. Then just drainage and slight nose stuff and a little dry cough now for a few days. Fever never went over 99.6.
If it was CV, I think it would have progressed into the lungs more and the fever would have been higher. The little dry cough makes me nervous but drainage can cause that.
But I don’t know. I do suspect many, many people may indeed have had it and shaken it off.
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I sense it’s probably bigger - and MUCH milder, than most people know.
That's what I think. From what I've been reading from people that had it, the symptoms line up. Again, thousands upon thousands have a "cold" or the "flu", but no one was tested.
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I read somewhere that 80% of people just get a mild case. So you might of had it.
I also read that the reason we are seeing such a jump in number of people tested positive is because we started testing more people.
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Our local school district just closed for two weeks starting Monday, full on panic mode is hitting soon IHMO.
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I am now teaching on-line, or at least I will be Monday. I"m almost done with one class, I'll be in most of the weekend trying to get the other in some semblance of shape. Nothing like converting two classes to on-line in one week. Hurrah.
I liken the coronavirus to Godzilla. Godzilla stomps on Tokyo. Soldiers shoot their guns at him. They shoot missiles and lasers at him. They drop bombs on him. They do everything they can do to stop him, and they might as well not bother. Godzilla goes where he wants and does what he wants because he's Godzilla.
Back to preparing for on-line classes. Hurrah.
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I am now teaching on-line, or at least I will be Monday. I"m almost done with one class, I'll be in most of the weekend trying to get the other in some semblance of shape. Nothing like converting two classes to on-line in one week. Hurrah.
I liken the coronavirus to Godzilla. Godzilla stomps on Tokyo. Soldiers shoot their guns at him. They shoot missiles and lasers at him. They drop bombs on him. They do everything they can do to stop him, and they might as well not bother. Godzilla goes where he wants and does what he wants because he's Godzilla.
Back to preparing for on-line classes. Hurrah.
I already work from home as an independent contractor but the office I remote with set up all their employees to remote from home so now they're all going to work from home too.
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https://twitter.com/MrJones_tm/status/1238125496833060866
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How can you tell the difference when she's having a stroke versus when she isn't?
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Did I just watch Nanshy have a stroke?
no.
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Well damn, even I didn't think of this toilet paper shortage solution:
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/it-has-to-be-asked-are-nefarious-soros-like-short-sellers-trying-to-crash-the-us-economy/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia0bfWbOLjY&feature=youtu.be
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Someone (the media) needs to be held accountable for causing people to panic and go complete retarded over this. My cousin is the charge nurse at the local ER. She is saying anybody who has the smallest sniffle and "doesn't feel good" is flooding the ER. So even if there is one person with the virus is there, now they are all exposed. All because this is being blown out of proportion and they are brainwashed to think they will get it and die. Use common sense to protect yourself. And all my high school age cousins are all talking about the big parties that are being planned because no school/online classes the next few weeks. My 12 year old cousin had 22 girls at her house last night for her birthday.
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Everyone in this country needs to wake up to see what is going on, from the dims and their media inciting panic to the fuckin' low lifes that are shorting the market.
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Someone (the media) needs to be held accountable for causing people to panic and go complete retarded over this. My cousin is the charge nurse at the local ER. She is saying anybody who has the smallest sniffle and "doesn't feel good" is flooding the ER. So even if there is one person with the virus is there, now they are all exposed. All because this is being blown out of proportion and they are brainwashed to think they will get it and die. Use common sense to protect yourself. And all my high school age cousins are all talking about the big parties that are being planned because no school/online classes the next few weeks. My 12 year old cousin had 22 girls at her house last night for her birthday.
Deborah Birx said, at the presser, yesterday that of the people presenting because they think they have it, only 1-2% actually have it.
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Deborah Birx said, at the presser, yesterday that of the people presenting because they think they have it, only 1-2% actually have it.
And she also said, that this time of year people are getting all kinds of colds and flu which are different from this, so don't assume you have it just because you are sick.
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The problem is this is sufficiently infectious and severe that it could easily overwhelm our medical resources. And it's out, containment didn't work this time. Cases are increasing at an exponential rate. So we're using these social distancing strategies to slow it down. Perhaps they'll work, but I have doubts. If it acts like a coronavirus the heat and sunshine of Spring and Summer will do it in. But then we have an even worse scenario. When the cold and flu season comes around next fall we'll have an immunologically naive population that's already sick to death of societal distancing. I rather hope it's a supervirus that can withstand summer. The best scenario is a slow burn infection that generates herd immunity without overwhelming our resources.
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Flu is contagious at 1:1.3 ratio, this is 1:2
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An the time to enact these sorts of spread slowing strategies is right now, while viral cases are still not prevalent. If we wait until the virus gets more of a foothold that'll be it for keeping anyone away from it. The real problem isn't the. mortality, it's the number of people who wind upon the hospital because of this. If the virus gets going full bore and infects a wide swaths feh depopulation they will easily overwhelm our ability as a society to care for them.
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What is the likelihood of a vaccine being produced?
What is the downside of otherwise healthy people getting it? Yes, I know they can spread it to the old and sickly, but beyond that aren't we just talking about normal flu symptoms?
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An the time to enact these sorts of spread slowing strategies is right now, while viral cases are still not prevalent. If we wait until the virus gets more of a foothold that'll be it for keeping anyone away from it. The real problem isn't the. mortality, it's the number of people who wind upon the hospital because of this. If the virus gets going full bore and infects a wide swaths feh depopulation they will easily overwhelm our ability as a society to care for them.
So why wasn't this done during the swine flu pandemic?
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An the time to enact these sorts of spread slowing strategies is right now, while viral cases are still not prevalent. If we wait until the virus gets more of a foothold that'll be it for keeping anyone away from it. The real problem isn't the. mortality, it's the number of people who wind upon the hospital because of this. If the virus gets going full bore and infects a wide swaths feh depopulation they will easily overwhelm our ability as a society to care for them.
Fauci was talking about that, about damping down the spike and I understand why for sure. My question is, what’s your opinion about if we successfully level out the spike, does that mean the pandemic is dragged out longer? Or does that mean fewer total people are infected before it burns itself out in the same amount of time it would have anyway?
In other words, is the area under the curve the same so that if the hump is high then the width is shorter?
Or does the answer to that depend on whether or not it’s vulnerable to the hot weather?
If summer kills it and we shortened the hump with all our hand washing and social distancing, then fewer total people will have been infected before it mutates into a benign form and goes away. But if it likes summer, then by leveling the spike we are just prolonging the agony, right? Other than maybe not exceeding capacity as much.
Or do they even know?