PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on April 01, 2020, 07:16:36 PM
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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/how_a_police_state_is_born.html?utm_source=whatfinger
The United States and much of the western world, by utilizing the most draconian of tactics, is plunging many nations into potential economic and societal chaos as they attempt to stem the tide of the Chinese Coronavirus. Relying on dubious and error-prone projections, politicians and bureaucrats constitutionally or statutorily limited in their power, are now exercising near-dictatorial authority in their edicts, which are effectively suspending or terminating numerous freedoms under the guise of protecting their respective nations.
All Americans, not be just those with first-hand experience dealing with World War II and its aftermath or living in Eastern Europe under iron boot of the Soviet Union or escaping the Communist/socialist hellholes of Cuba, Southeast Asia or Venezuela, should view these actions with considerable trepidation.
When societies lose their freedom, it is not ordinarily because autocrats or tyrants have forcibly taken it away. It is usually the result of the population willingly surrendering their freedom in return for protection against an external threat. While the threat is oftentimes real, it is invariably exaggerated.
This is what we in the United States are experiencing. The general public has been stampeded by the fearmongering in the media into demanding action from the politicians at both the state and federal level. The politicians respond and do not pause to ask whether these actions will work -- just do something! They do not ask if the financial and societal cost to the nation is worth the unknown and perhaps nebulous return.
Any student of history and human nature would recognize that these are the classic symptoms of collective hysteria. Hysteria is contagious. This nation is turning itself inside out as we, thanks to the media, are exaggerating the threat and not stopping to ask if the cure is worse than the disease.
In times like these, it is to be expected that the citizenry will look to the government for guidance and assistance. When that happens in an environment of mass hysteria, then it is unsurprising that the state will take on or assume new power, as that is what has been demanded of it. This historically has been the process which leads to the rise of authoritarianism.
Over the past four weeks and with little or no legal basis, one state governor has outbid another in their dramatic responses to the Coronavirus outbreak. Invariably their actions revolve around the curtailing of individual freedom.
Arrest warrants are being issued for holding funeral services, fines are being levied for not maintaining proper distance, people are being arrested for holding gatherings of over ten people, fines and arrests are the order of the day for re-opening a business the state deems to be nonessential, and the national guard has been called out to enforce state borders and lockdowns. Pastors have been arrested for holding worship services, and in New York City the mayor has threatened to permanently close any church, synagogue or mosque that violates his lockdown order. The Second Amendment is under assault as 12 states either have ordered or are contemplating ordering all gun stores and retailers closed, thus depriving millions of their right buy a gun. Neighbors and ordinary citizens, in the best tradition of the Soviet Union and Communist China, are being encouraged to inform the authorities if anyone they know is not adhering to state lockdown rules. Stores, deemed essential by the state, are being told what in their inventory they can and cannot sell.
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https://www.theblaze.com/news/vermont-orders-big-box-retailers-to-stop-in-person-sales-of-items-the-state-deems-non-essential
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https://therightscoop.com/oann-reporter-banned-from-white-house-press-briefings/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=oann-reporter-banned-from-white-house-press-briefings
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https://www.toddstarnes.com/show/starnes-sheriff-chad-chronister-should-be-hauled-from-his-home-in-handcuffs-and-charged-with-reckless-disregard-for-the-u-s-constitution/
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https://www.theblaze.com/news/vermont-orders-big-box-retailers-to-stop-in-person-sales-of-items-the-state-deems-non-essential
That is absolutely insane. No, it’s deliberately sadistic.
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https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/01/colorado-stay-at-home-violations-coronavirus/
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https://therightscoop.com/oann-reporter-banned-from-white-house-press-briefings/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=oann-reporter-banned-from-white-house-press-briefings
I wonder how many other "reporters" have "violated" the rules and have been banned...
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https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/01/colorado-stay-at-home-violations-coronavirus/
I’ve reached my article limit ? I haven’t read any yet. Anyhoo....
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I never thought I would see anything like this in my lifetime. Well, maybe I did. I guess I never thought people would be OK with it.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/04/02/newsom-yes-we-will-use-coronavirus-to-reimagine-a-progressive-era-n2566199
During a live daily video press update, Newsom took a question from a reporter for Bloomberg about how much he sees the ability to advance a progressive agenda after the pandemic.
“Many aspects of policy have taken place, changes of policy have taken place that I think a lot of people have found surprising,” the reporter said, citing unemployment benefits and a ban on corporate stock buybacks. “I’m wondering if you see the potential, as many others in the party do, for a new progressive era and opportunity for additional progressive steps?”
After a long, roundabout response, the governor finally responded, “yes.”
“There is opportunity for reimagining a progressive era as it pertains to capitalism,” Newsom said. “Forgive me for being long winded but absolutely we see this as an opportunity to reshape the way we do business and how we govern."
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/04/02/newsom-yes-we-will-use-coronavirus-to-reimagine-a-progressive-era-n2566199
They aren’t even trying to hide their agenda anymore. They might as well run on the platform of total communist takeover and half this country would still vote for them.
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banning the sale of books.
Are you sure that wasn't a 1 April article?
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I never thought I would see anything like this in my lifetime. Well, maybe I did. I guess I never thought people would be OK with it.
The liberal controlled states and municipalities are seizing this opportunity. How is limiting where citizens can shop, and what items they are "allowed" to purchase in any relation to the Covid Virus?
The liberal congress members from Texas are demanding the Gov Abbott shut down the state, although Texas hasn't been hit that hard. Several municipalities (democrat controlled) are already starting totalitarian lock downs.
So far we have seen 1) Shut down places of worship, 2) Shut down businesses liberals disagree with, 3) Police asking citizens to start reporting on neighborhood activities and 4) Closures of public parks and areas.
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They aren’t even trying to hide their agenda anymore. They might as well run on the platform of total communist takeover and half this country would still vote for them.
It's simply amazing. On other forums people have no issues with constitutional rights being ignored. I keep seeing "We are in a crisis, so the government can do as they feel is necessary". I ask "Please show me in the constitution where it says the government may suspend it in times of crisis?" I then get "You don't care! You just want people to die!"
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So far we have seen 1) Shut down places of worship, 2) Shut down businesses liberals disagree with, 3) Police asking citizens to start reporting on neighborhood activities and 4) Closures of public parks and areas.
First amendment, anyone? anyone?
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First amendment, anyone? anyone?
I pointed out on another forum how the minister in Florida had his first amendment rights violated, and was promptly scoffed at.
We are in dangerous times right now.
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First amendment, anyone? anyone?
We are now seeing the fruits of the Progressive's labors. Many people now accept basic rights violations in the name of safety and security. Thankfully President Trump upheld the 2A with his order that gun stores and gun manufacturers are essential businesses. The fact that he HAD to do that speaks volumes for the myriad of Democrat Governors, and Mayors that were taking away 2A rights, and using this virus as the excuse.
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Freedom of the press?
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/oan-news-loses-white-house-press-privileges/
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Freedom of the press?
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/oan-news-loses-white-house-press-privileges/
The interesting thing is that the press is suppressing the freedom of the press.
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Freedom of the press?
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/oan-news-loses-white-house-press-privileges/
They don't like OANN because they don't just parrot the Democrat, Progressive narrative and agenda. They media are not news anymore, they are Democrat propaganda.
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The interesting thing is that the press is suppressing the freedom of the press.
The progressive press. In their eyes, the first only applies to them.
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/marxist-indoctrination-at-ucla/
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The liberal controlled states and municipalities are seizing this opportunity. How is limiting where citizens can shop, and what items they are "allowed" to purchase in any relation to the Covid Virus?
The liberal congress members from Texas are demanding the Gov Abbott shut down the state, although Texas hasn't been hit that hard. Several municipalities (democrat controlled) are already starting totalitarian lock downs.
So far we have seen 1) Shut down places of worship, 2) Shut down businesses liberals disagree with, 3) Police asking citizens to start reporting on neighborhood activities and 4) Closures of public parks and areas.
We have had all of 1 case in our county for three weeks yet small businesses are failing and people are losing jobs right here. They need to target high risk active regions and let everyone else carry on as normal. At least wait til we have a half dozen cases before shutting us down. I am convinced the lockdown here did not save a single life as yet.
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We have had all of 1 case in our county for three weeks yet small businesses are failing and people are losing jobs right here. They need to target high risk active regions and let everyone else carry on as normal. At least wait til we have a half dozen cases before shutting us down. I am convinced the lockdown here did not save a single life as yet.
https://www.grassfire.com/coronavirus_costs
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https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/01/colorado-stay-at-home-violations-coronavirus/ (https://www.denverpost.com/2020/04/01/colorado-stay-at-home-violations-coronavirus/)
I have a feeling that Hobby Lobby might take this to court right up the chain to the Supremes. Someone needs to.
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50’ between boats? Show me the data that says you can catch the virus from someone on a boat 10’ away from your boat.
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50’ between boats? Show me the data that says you can catch the virus from someone on a boat 10’ away from your boat.
If it's worth doing... it's worth overdoing.
And COVID-19 brings that out in extreme...
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I thought surface ships were just targets.
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https://summit.news/2020/04/02/video-woman-threatens-to-call-police-on-neighbor-for-violating-lockdown/
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You’d think this was the bubonic plague killing 50% of the population the way some people are acting.
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You’d think this was the bubonic plague killing 50% of the population the way some people are acting.
This is exactly what the progressive left wants.
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals
8. "Keep the pressure on."
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
Cloward and Piven
"The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty".
Sound familiar?
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This is exactly what the progressive left wants.
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals
8. "Keep the pressure on."
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
Cloward and Piven
"The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty".
Sound familiar?
This may be the beginning of the war on freedom.
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This may be the beginning of the war on freedom.
Even before the AWB, the war on freedom has been fought.
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Not all is lost - I hope. Check out the 4 minute mini-speech of the governor of South Dakota (a red state) from 8:37 to 12:40 in this daily briefing (the actual briefing doesn't start till 6:00, but the only part I think is relevant to others is that mini-speech.) Naturally she is getting criticized for not doing enough.
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She’s obviously a racist.
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She’s obviously a racist.
She's obviously HOT!
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Not all is lost - I hope. Check out the 4 minute mini-speech of the governor of South Dakota (a red state) from 8:37 to 12:40 in this daily briefing (the actual briefing doesn't start till 6:00, but the only part I think is relevant to others is that mini-speech.) Naturally she is getting criticized for not doing enough.
I love the concept of personal responsibility. Too bad we don't have more Governors like her.
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Not all is lost - I hope. Check out the 4 minute mini-speech of the governor of South Dakota (a red state) from 8:37 to 12:40 in this daily briefing (the actual briefing doesn't start till 6:00, but the only part I think is relevant to others is that mini-speech.) Naturally she is getting criticized for not doing enough.
Personal responsibility? Blasphemy!
Kristi Noem is awesome.
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She's obviously HOT!
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem):
Kristi Arnold was born to Ron and Corrine Arnold in Watertown, South Dakota and raised with her siblings on the family ranch and farm in rural Hamlin County.[1] She graduated from Hamlin High School in 1990, and won the South Dakota Snow Queen title. She credited the experience with helping her polish her public speaking and promotional skills.[2] After high school, she enrolled at Northern State University. She married Bryon Noem at age 20.[3]
At 22, Noem left college to help run her family's ranch after her father was killed in a farm machinery accident.[1][4] Over the years, Noem added a hunting lodge and restaurant to the property, and all her siblings have moved back to help expand the businesses.[1]
After her father's accident, Noem stopped attending college full-time but, over the years, took classes at the Watertown campus of Mount Marty College and at South Dakota State University.[1][2] After being elected to Congress, she continued her education, taking online courses and receiving credits for her work as a representative – leading the Washington Post to sarcastically dub her Capitol Hill's "Most Powerful Intern."[5] She earned a B.A. in political science from South Dakota State University in 2012.[6]
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Noem lives with her husband and their three children on the Racota Valley Ranch near Castlewood.[83] As of 2009, she had a 16.9 percent ownership stake in the ranch.[84] Her recreational interests include hunting.[85]
From 1989 to 2010, Noem received 27 traffic citations, including 20 for speeding[86] and other violations. She said, "I'm not proud of my driving record, but [I've] been working hard to be a better example to young kids and young drivers out there."[87] She had paid her fines and penalties by August 2010.[86]
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Noem):
Kristi Arnold was born to Ron and Corrine Arnold in Watertown, South Dakota and raised with her siblings on the family ranch and farm in rural Hamlin County.[1] She graduated from Hamlin High School in 1990, and won the South Dakota Snow Queen title. She credited the experience with helping her polish her public speaking and promotional skills.[2] After high school, she enrolled at Northern State University. She married Bryon Noem at age 20.[3]
At 22, Noem left college to help run her family's ranch after her father was killed in a farm machinery accident.[1][4] Over the years, Noem added a hunting lodge and restaurant to the property, and all her siblings have moved back to help expand the businesses.[1]
After her father's accident, Noem stopped attending college full-time but, over the years, took classes at the Watertown campus of Mount Marty College and at South Dakota State University.[1][2] After being elected to Congress, she continued her education, taking online courses and receiving credits for her work as a representative – leading the Washington Post to sarcastically dub her Capitol Hill's "Most Powerful Intern."[5] She earned a B.A. in political science from South Dakota State University in 2012.[6]
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Noem lives with her husband and their three children on the Racota Valley Ranch near Castlewood.[83] As of 2009, she had a 16.9 percent ownership stake in the ranch.[84] Her recreational interests include hunting.[85]
From 1989 to 2010, Noem received 27 traffic citations, including 20 for speeding[86] and other violations. She said, "I'm not proud of my driving record, but [I've] been working hard to be a better example to young kids and young drivers out there."[87] She had paid her fines and penalties by August 2010.[86]
Yeah, she definitely needs to leave her husband and become one of my concubines.
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Delaware just "authorized" state cops to pull over anyone with out of state plates.
"Papiere, bitte."
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Delaware just "authorized" state cops to pull over anyone with out of state plates.
"Papiere, bitte."
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https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/county-arrested-pastor-holding-service-reverses-course-recognizes-churches-essential
Hillsborough County and the state of Florida have newly recognized religious services as “essential” activities after a Florida pastor was arrested for holding service.
Gov. Ron DeSantis said in a media conference on Thursday that closing churches was unconstitutional and “we can’t start ripping up the Constitution,” WFTS-TV reported.
DeSantis explained that people need religious services, though he encouraged houses of worship to adhere to recommended guidelines, holding online services or ensuring that people stay six feet apart from one another for in-person services.
Hillsborough County’s Emergency Policy Group expanded on the guidelines, asking people to adhere to public health experts’ recommendations.
“Religious Services are considered an essential activity under” DeSantis’ “stay-at-home” order, the guidance read.
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https://fox40.com/news/national-and-world-news/google-to-release-your-location-data-to-help-fight-coronavirus-pandemic/
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https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/04/york-county-woman-faces-200-ticket-from-state-police-under-gov-wolfs-stay-at-home-order.html
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Localities are now realizing loss of revenue from reduced traffic flow. So now one way to start making up revenue is phony traffic stops and using the virus lockdown as a way to generate income.
Watch this start to increase, along with many other draconian measures.
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https://fox40.com/news/national-and-world-news/google-to-release-your-location-data-to-help-fight-coronavirus-pandemic/
“In addition to other resources public health officials might have, we hope these reports will help support decisions about how to manage the COVID-19 pandemic,” Google said in a blog post. “This information could help officials understand changes in essential trips that can shape recommendations on business hours or inform delivery service offerings.”
Translation: so they can redesign policy to more effectively kill business and the economy.
We already know the anonymous part is complete bullshit. With the ubiquitous use of geofence warrants already, one of the first things that will happen is unmasking individuals who test positive and to identify where they went for the purpose of “tracking” spread of the virus. You know goddamn well they will. You know they’re already planning it.
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Localities are now realizing loss of revenue from reduced traffic flow. So now one way to start making up revenue is phony traffic stops and using the virus lockdown as a way to generate income.
Watch this start to increase, along with many other draconian measures.
I saw three hidden Township cop cars on ONE ROAD recently. SPEED TRAPS or Corona traps.
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Localities are now realizing loss of revenue from reduced traffic flow. So now one way to start making up revenue is phony traffic stops and using the virus lockdown as a way to generate income.
Watch this start to increase, along with many other draconian measures.
People are probably carrying a bit more cash right now as any catastrophe inclines them to, so expect civil asset forfeiture grabs to involve smaller and smaller amounts.
“You have $200 here, and you are coming from the direction of MLK Blvd, you obviously got this from selling drugs, ma’am. I’ll just take this. No ticket, just don’t go 3 miles over the limit anymore otherwise I’ll have to pull you again. Have a good day.”
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https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2020/04/05/is-what-were-being-told-about-the-coronavirus-pandemic-wrong-n2566373
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https://americanconservativemovement.com/2020/04/05/ted-cruz-we-dont-live-in-a-police-state/
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1246879637680119809
There are few places in this nation safer from the coronavirus than seclusion in one’s vehicle. While driving, we are neither likely to contract the disease nor spread it to others. But in Pennsylvania, the spirit of caution has been replaced by authoritarianism and overt abuse of power as law enforcement officers have been ordered to ticket people simply for driving without an “essential” purpose.
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) took great exception to news of this degree of enforcement.
He is correct. This is absolutely absurd. And while it isn’t only Democrats who are taking the coronavirus lockdowns to their authoritarian extremes, the left clearly holds the lion’s share when it comes to abusing this temporary acceleration of power. This, arguably more than anything else, is why it’s so important we oppose the body of work being compiled by power-hungry politicians and bureaucrats. They are using the coronavirus crisis as camouflage for their power grab. It is imperative that we not only raise awareness but take action now.
Anita Shaffer, 19, was just driving. It’s understandable considering the lockdowns. People do not like to feel as if they’re prisoners, even in our own homes. She was putting nobody at risk, including herself, yet she was pulled over and ticketed. That’s not the American way. At least it shouldn’t be.
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https://www.toddstarnes.com/coronavirus/appliance-stores-padlocked-in-denver-after-government-declared-businesses-nonessential/
Colorado Congressman Ken Buck blasted the state’s decision to padlock a popular store that sold appliances.
“They weren’t just shut down. They had the doors chained shut by the government,” Buck said during an appearance on The Todd Starnes Radio Show. “This is really scary.”
Government officials padlocked the doors of Appliance Factory stores across Denver after declaring the business was nonessential.
“We will counter in court and get to the bottom of why Gov. Polis does not want the people of Colorado to buy appliances in this crisis,” the company said in a statement to NBC News in Denver. “Every other state specifically allows appliances to be sold so people don’t get sick at home or spread the virus further.”
Rep. Buck told Starnes that if he is very concerned about state and local governments using emergency powers to crack down on constitutional rights.
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See how long this one goes before it shuts down https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/when-will-people-quit-being-sheeple.125308/
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See how long this one goes before it shuts down https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/when-will-people-quit-being-sheeple.125308/
About a nanosecond and the offender will be permanently banned, because.... liberals never have facts to support their bullshit and just censor anyone that dares challenge their lies.
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See how long this one goes before it shuts down https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/when-will-people-quit-being-sheeple.125308/
When I just looked at it, the original post was 33 minutes old.
The anti-politics crowd is quick on the trigger, but not that quick.
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When I just looked at it, the original post was 33 minutes old.
The anti-politics crowd is quick on the trigger, but not that quick.
Twenty-seven posts and locked. The politburo won't stand for it.
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Kinda amazing how so many there want to talk politics.
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Just amazing.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/hack-reporter-asks-president-trump-shutting-grocery-stores-stop-spread-coronavirus-video/
But see the progressives thinking? I can see this as their next attempt.
They are going to fight to keep as much shut down as possible.
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Just amazing.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/hack-reporter-asks-president-trump-shutting-grocery-stores-stop-spread-coronavirus-video/
But see the progressives thinking? I can see this as their next attempt.
They are going to fight to keep as much shut down as possible.
Is it remotely possible the reporter was attempting, using a question on a essential service, to show the absurdity of many of the closures? Who did the reporter work for?
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It's getting stupid out there as politicians and law enforcement keep expanding their power. And yeah I couldn't spell this morning, typing in the dark.
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lawyers are going to have a field day with all the civil rights violations
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Is it remotely possible the reporter was attempting, using a question on a essential service, to show the absurdity of many of the closures? Who did the reporter work for?
Hmmmm. Because at the beginning he talks about unwittingly passing the disease. Can’t totally say he’s not being sarcastic but because of that bit at the beginning I think he’s serious. Handsome but dumb - he can’t see that most people don’t have weeks worth of emergency food and paper goods stored.
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Hmmmm. Because at the beginning he talks about unwittingly passing the disease. Can’t totally say he’s not being sarcastic but because of that bit at the beginning I think he’s serious. Handsome but dumb - he can’t see that most people don’t have weeks worth of emergency food and paper goods stored.
The media is exempt from these rules everywhere they are placed. The media is deemed "essential". So here you have an airhead "journalist" who is still receiving a paycheck and is able to move about as he pleases, looking down his elitist nose at the "peasants".
Hmmmm.....let's shut off all food now, we'll have the military deliver rations of rice and beans to homes.
Yep, a bit absurd, but the longer this goes, the more these tinpot dictator wannabes will try to grab. They are drunk on power and are getting a taste of what socialism can do for them..........and they like it.
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The media is except from these rules everywhere they are placed. The media is deemed "essential". So here you have an airhead "journalist" who is still receiving a paycheck and is able to move about as he pleases, looking down his elitist nose at the "peasants".
Hmmmm.....let's shut off all food now, we'll have the military deliver rations of rice and beans to homes.
Yep, a bit absurd, but the longer this goes, the more these tinpot dictator wannabes will try to grab. They are drunk on power and are getting a taste of what socialism can do for them..........and they like it.
This is looking more and more accurate. Many people at all levels of government, the media, and university departments providing expert advice that the president is taking to heart, are consciously enjoying the power trip.
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This is looking more and more accurate. Many people at all levels of government, the media, and university departments providing expert advice that the president is taking to heart, are consciously enjoying the power trip.
They want this as "the new normal". What they will get are armed citizens in the streets if it keeps going.
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They want this as "the new normal". What they will get are armed citizens in the streets if it keeps going.
I’m even beginning to doubt that. I’m shocked at the numbers of otherwise rational people enthusiastically going along with the police state mentality “for the sake of saving even one life”. I just hope they get tired of it if this keeps up into the summer.
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I’m even beginning to doubt that. I’m shocked at the numbers of otherwise rational people enthusiastically going along with the police state mentality “for the sake of saving even one life”. I just hope they get tired of it if this keeps up into the summer.
It's mind boggling to read on other forums just how many are willing to give up rights. "Even if it means only saving one life".....
Yet these asswipes don't give a shit about the millions of abortions, the suicides of veterans, the opioid crisis, deaths from child abuse, deaths from elder abuse, illegal aliens murdering citizens, etc.
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It's mind boggling to read on other forums just how many are willing to give up rights. "Even if it means only saving one life".....
Yet these asswipes don't give a shit about the millions of abortions, the suicides of veterans, the opioid crisis, deaths from child abuse, deaths from elder abuse, illegal aliens murdering citizens, etc.
It's only a matter of time until citizens get packed into boxcars and sent to "Virus relocation camps".
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We have become a society of Bedwetting SHEEP due to the ascension of Women and MEDIA.
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We have become a society of Bedwetting SHEEP due to the ascension of Women and MEDIA.
And all the soy-drinking, estrogen-tainted males or what passes for males these days.
The feminine principle of safety and security at all costs must be balanced by the masculine principle of risk taking and action. When either is too dominant disaster happens. We are watching the pussification of America unfold before our very eyes right now.
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And all the soy-drinking, estrogen-tainted males or what passes for males these days.
The feminine principle of safety and security at all costs must be balanced by the masculine principle of risk taking and action. When either is too dominant disaster happens. We are watching the pussification of America unfold before our very eyes right now.
Thank God for women like you Rush. Our Risk/Safety-Security BALANCE has been way off for a long time, but recently gone off the charts. I plan to start snow skiing again if the ski resorts ever open. Do people now all wear helmets to ski? I was a double black diamond skier at places in Europe and all over North America at one time and never saw people wearing helmets. When did that start?
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It seems any level of risk is too much. I skied a lot in the 80s and shifted to snowboarding in the 90s when my knees couldn't take it any more. Never wore a helmet. Now everyone is wearing one. Kids have a lower center of gravity and bounce better than adults and are the most padded. Any risk is too much... let's shut down the country if it saves one life.
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Thank God for women like you Rush. Our Risk/Safety-Security BALANCE has been way off for a long time, but recently gone off the charts. I plan to start snow skiing again if the ski resorts ever open. Do people now all wear helmets to ski? I was a double black diamond skier at places in Europe and all over North America at one time and never saw people wearing helmets. When did that start?
When? Don't know. But it would seem to me to be a personal choice - hopefully the nannies can resist requiring people to wear helmets. Head injuries can be nasty. OTOH - a heavy helmet might increase the risk of neck injuries.
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Thank God for women like you Rush. Our Risk/Safety-Security BALANCE has been way off for a long time, but recently gone off the charts. I plan to start snow skiing again if the ski resorts ever open. Do people now all wear helmets to ski? I was a double black diamond skier at places in Europe and all over North America at one time and never saw people wearing helmets. When did that start?
Balance is a core spiritual concept in all major religions and is expressed beautifully in Eastern mysticism which was a popular fad among the hippies of the 60s who are the leftists you have infesting our government and media today. The lesson of duality didn’t take, nor did tolerance, humility, or compassion. They have become the same self-righteous, closed minded, low level worshippers they criticized back in the 60s, except their religion is MMGW, their Antichrist is Trump and their god is Hatred.
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Balance is a core spiritual concept in all major religions and is expressed beautifully in Eastern mysticism which was a popular fad among the hippies of the 60s who are the leftists you have infesting our government and media today. The lesson of duality didn’t take, nor did tolerance, humility, or compassion. They have become the same self-righteous, closed minded, low level worshippers they criticized back in the 60s, except their religion is MMGW, their Antichrist is Trump and their god is Hatred.
They've become "Progressive" big government worshipping control freaks. Gone are the protesters of government and those against the "Administration" (unless it is Trump). They must be defeated at all cost.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/colorado-man-handcuffed-front-6-year-old-daughter-park-violating-social-distancing-order-video/
“He’s being taken by the Brighton police for playing softball with his daughter in an empty park,” Wallin said.
In an interview with the Problem Solvers, Wallin said, “I find it hard to believe with all the things going on in our communities, the only way to resolve a situation like this was to handcuff a father in front of his daughter.”
The sign at the park said: “in groups of no more than 4 persons, parks remain open for walking, hiking, biking, running and similar activities.”
Mooney said he was at the park with his wife and 1 daughter (less than 4 people) and that it was the police who were violating the social distancing order.
“During the contact, none of the officers had masks on, none of them had gloves on, and they’re in my face handcuffing me, they’re touching me,” he said.
The father was released by the cops after spending about 10 minutes in the back of a patrol car.
“If we’re going to go ahead and start arresting people for no reason in front of their 6-year-old daughter, you’re just going to cause more problems later on,” he said.
The Brighton police department said in a Facebook post on Sunday it is conducting an investigation into the incident.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/colorado-man-handcuffed-front-6-year-old-daughter-park-violating-social-distancing-order-video/
"The Brighton police department said in a Facebook post on Sunday it is conducting an investigation into the incident."
I'm sure that the PD will conclude that the officers were following standard procedure.
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When this is over, there is going to be a "reckoning" in this country.
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When this is over, there is going to be a "reckoning" in this country.
You’re thinking the same as me.
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A "reckoning" as in an armed revolt or a Trump landslide reelection? I vote we all just eat our Avocado toast, enjoy a Non Fat, Decaf, overpriced Latte, grown Man Buns, wear skinny jeans and let women boss us around.
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A "reckoning" as in an armed revolt or a Trump landslide reelection? I vote we all just eat our Avocado toast, enjoy a Non Fat, Decaf, overpriced Latte, grown Man Buns, wear skinny jeans and let women boss us around.
I'm OK with being kept.
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I'm OK with being kept.
It depends on who's doing the keeping and how. ;D
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It depends on who's doing the keeping and how. ;D
No matter how hot a woman is, somewhere there is a guy who got tired of dealing with her shit.
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No matter how hot a woman is, somewhere there is a guy who got tired of dealing with her shit.
Well there is that and then $$$. I know two guys living very, very nice lifestyles that are essentially kept men. However, I would never trade places with them. I could never do that, but they seem happy.
Then there are Progressives that seem OK with marrying the Government. ::)
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Well there is that and then $$$. I know two guys living very, very nice lifestyles that are essentially kept men. However, I would never trade places with them. I could never do that, but they seem happy.
I may have met one of them at one of the Wings Fly Ins? Wife is in pharmaceuticals and he drove the kids to school in the minivan and flew the plane...
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So they’ve released people from Wuhan, and 65,000 people are leaving it. But not without Big Brother.
https://apnews.com/3208bf54425d02c41c2d1d3911428c62?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter
“The city’s 11 million residents are now permitted to leave without special authorization as long as a mandatory smartphone application powered by a mix of data-tracking and government surveillance shows they are healthy and have not been in recent contact with anyone confirmed to have the virus.”
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A "reckoning" as in an armed revolt or a Trump landslide reelection?
Yes.
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So they’ve released people from Wuhan, and 65,000 people are leaving it. But not without Big Brother.
https://apnews.com/3208bf54425d02c41c2d1d3911428c62?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter
“The city’s 11 million residents are now permitted to leave without special authorization as long as a mandatory smartphone application powered by a mix of data-tracking and government surveillance shows they are healthy and have not been in recent contact with anyone confirmed to have the virus.”
Birx was talking a whole lot about “contact tracking” at the recent briefings. I have determined that there are two types of contact tracking. The first is, you ask a victim who they have been in contact with and where they have been. You use that information to try to determine where they got the virus or to anticipate who will next show symptoms.
The second type is google providing aggregate (supposedly anonymized) geo tracking data, to show general social behaviors.
Birx is vague about the details, but I see a huge potential for the government to marry these two, to use the latter to enhance the former. You of course may voluntarily use your phone to provide your personal location history. But the only thing preventing the government from mandating that you or google turn over that data is the constitution.
Now, if this “emergency” is being used already to trash the first amendment (right to assemble) then I have no confidence Birx won’t hesitate to recommend trashing the fourth too. After all, “if only one life can be saved”.
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I may have met one of them at one of the Wings Fly Ins? Wife is in pharmaceuticals and he drove the kids to school in the minivan and flew the plane...
That's not who I was referencing, but I know them both. Nice couple. Last time I saw him, he was flying a Turbine Meridian.
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Birx was talking a whole lot about “contact tracking” at the recent briefings. I have determined that there are two types of contact tracking. The first is, you ask a victim who they have been in contact with and where they have been. You use that information to try to determine where they got the virus or to anticipate who will next show symptoms.
The second type is google providing aggregate (supposedly anonymized) geo tracking data, to show general social behaviors.
There is a 3rd type. Singapore has developed a bluetooth app that keeps track of everybody you come near to (very near to) that also has the app. If anyone with the app is diagnosed with COVID, the app can be used to identify others that you may have infected.
I can see how that might be helpful, but, and this is a big BUT, how will government find a way to use and abuse that information?
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I can see how that might be helpful, but, and this is a big BUT, how will government find a way to use and abuse that information?
Maybe the government won't have the processing capacity needed to exploit the data.
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There is a 3rd type. Singapore has developed a bluetooth app that keeps track of everybody you come near to (very near to) that also has the app. If anyone with the app is diagnosed with COVID, the app can be used to identify others that you may have infected.
I can see how that might be helpful, but, and this is a big BUT, how will government find a way to use and abuse that information?
I think there are some horrible consequences to identifying the exact track of the contagion. Social shaming is a huge problem right now, especially among young people, who are dependent on social media. Reputation destruction and revenge seeking are possibilities and even the burden of personal guilt if you find you inadvertently passed it to someone who had a bad outcome. I’m not sure the benefits of that knowledge would outweigh the negatives, unless the government somehow keeps confidential what they find but I don’t trust that for a second.
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https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/wars-werent-wars-now-martial-law-not-called-martial-law/?utm_source=whatfinger
During this coronavirus panic, Americans are banned from attending church or assembling for meetings, weddings and the like – rights specifically enumerated in the First Amendment. Pastors have even been arrested for daring to hold worship services, and the mayor of New York threatened to permanently shut churches refusing to obey his order banning worship services. Likewise, medical procedures of all kinds have been stopped for the medical community to focus personnel and resources on fighting the coronavirus epidemic. But federal courts ruled abortions (that "right" found nowhere in the actual language of the Constitution) must not be interfered with. Specific, enumerated constitutional rights are violated without restraint, but a made-up right found nowhere in the document is so legally sacred it may not be limited for any reason, even during a pandemic.
Under this mass house arrest of the American people, our freedom of movement, our right to freely use our property, freedom of assembly and freedom of religion are banned without so much as a hesitation from leaders regarding their constitutional authority to do so.
We have wars without calling them wars, strict enforcement of constitutional rights found nowhere in the Constitution and now martial law without calling it martial law.
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This era may be seen as the biggest affront to freedom and liberty we have ever seen on the North American continent since the British were in control, and we were a colony. However, the Media, Bureaucracy, Leftists, Academia, Education etc. will make it seem necessary and promote it as the new norm in order to ensure safety and health.
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Gee, how prophetic. https://spectator.org/the-dual-reckoning-to-come/
When this is over, there is going to be a "reckoning" in this country.
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Gee, how prophetic. https://spectator.org/the-dual-reckoning-to-come/
Here’s more from the article:
No. Sorry. You don’t get to stand over the corpse of the American economy and brag about all the lives you saved. That should turbocharge the public outrage to come, not tamp it down.
There has been far too little pushback against this economic lockdown, and that doesn’t say good things about the America we currently live in. Far too many people have played the role of sheep, relentlessly echoing the media-driven hysteria of the Wuhan virus and slavishly adhering to the social-distancing mantras while tens of millions of livelihoods have been lost.
But redemption, and the reckoning, is close at hand. And those who have butchered this economy in the face of an overblown hysteria deserve nothing less than the full comeuppance from the public they’ve manipulated and abused.
Let’s get it going. The sooner the better.
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Here’s more from the article:
No. Sorry. You don’t get to stand over the corpse of the American economy and brag about all the lives you saved. That should turbocharge the public outrage to come, not tamp it down.
There has been far too little pushback against this economic lockdown, and that doesn’t say good things about the America we currently live in. Far too many people have played the role of sheep, relentlessly echoing the media-driven hysteria of the Wuhan virus and slavishly adhering to the social-distancing mantras while tens of millions of livelihoods have been lost.
But redemption, and the reckoning, is close at hand. And those who have butchered this economy in the face of an overblown hysteria deserve nothing less than the full comeuppance from the public they’ve manipulated and abused.
Let’s get it going. The sooner the better.
But if we can save just one life, isn't it worth it?
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Wait, the stock market continues to climb...
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But if we can save just one life, isn't it worth it?
Oh, even a half of life is worth it. ::)
Yes, I know you are being sarcastic.
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Can anyone point me to any declaration from Trump to shelter in place? I don't believe he has ever issued such an order. The only I know of for sure is the one page guidelines they keep holding up.
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Can anyone point me to any declaration from Trump to shelter in place? I don't believe he has ever issued such an order. The only I know of for sure is the one page guidelines they keep holding up.
No.
Governors have control (or in reality, have seized it, with almost no pushback.)
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Can anyone point me to any declaration from Trump to shelter in place? I don't believe he has ever issued such an order. The only I know of for sure is the one page guidelines they keep holding up.
He did not. The reason was, as always, Trump is a believer in the constitution. While he has stated it was a recommendation by the CDC, he left it up to the states, which, shockingly, is in accordance with the constitution.
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Here’s more from the article:
No. Sorry. You don’t get to stand over the corpse of the American economy and brag about all the lives you saved. That should turbocharge the public outrage to come, not tamp it down.
THIS! This is exactly what is happening to me, as I watch the briefings. Early on they made me feel much better. Trump’s optimism and complete transparency, and the fantastic way private companies were stepping up in any way they could to help. Two week time out then we can get back to normal, we can handle that.
But now, the briefings are causing in me a growing rage, as they go on and on and on about how the lockdown is “succeeding” when everybody knows it is way too preliminary to assume it was only the lockdown responsible for the declining numbers and not herd immunity or their models just being flat out wrong in the first place.
And still no indication of an end! Now we are getting talk of second waves and rolling shutdowns, they are talking like this is going to drag on indefinitely, and their smug smiles are beginning to really piss me off.
And still far too little light on the harm being done. The harm is growing exponentially. I hear through the grapevine business after business closing permanently and this is not being reported in the news and it’s not just small businesses. I have heard through a connection about a major company all of you are familiar with, which I will not name, that is teetering on the edge and likely will not survive, which shocked me and has me very depressed; it’s the last company I would have expected to go under.
The stimulus money will help some small businesses but for many it’s too little too late, and large corporations will need bailouts; we simply can’t do it, the U.S. debt is already in the stratosphere. This cannot continue much longer.
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I hear through the grapevine business after business closing permanently and this is not being reported in the news and it’s not just small businesses. I have heard through a connection about a major company all of you are familiar with, which I will not name, that is teetering on the edge and likely will not survive, which shocked me and has me very depressed; it’s the last company I would have expected to go under.
Should I sell my stock?
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Should I sell my stock?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh no, I’m not going to prison.
It hadn’t occurred to me to go digging around in our investments and see if we own any but I’m not going to, even if we do I’m not acting on “insider information” besides at the moment it’s only hearsay. I’m still hoping to God this is all just a bad dream.
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The Half Wit is doubling down
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/09/no-more-visiting-friends-and-neighbors-under-whitmers-expanded-coronavirus-order/5125426002/
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The Half Wit is doubling down
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/09/no-more-visiting-friends-and-neighbors-under-whitmers-expanded-coronavirus-order/5125426002/
She needs to take lessons for the Governor of South Dakota.
Real? Rush? I say yes!
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180503151839-kristi-noem-weights-large-169.jpg)
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She needs to take lessons for the Governor of South Dakota.
Real? Rush? I say yes!
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180503151839-kristi-noem-weights-large-169.jpg)
I’ll agree, likely real from this pic.
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I’ll agree, likely real from this pic.
Not gettin near those either. :(
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"We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.
People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddleboarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.
People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.
Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentivized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.
You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.
You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.
At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?
If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?
YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."
But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.
They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.
YOU ARE IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it."
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/crazed-michigan-governor-now-tells-home-depot-shut-unnecessary-flooring-tiles-garden-centers/
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Video Shows Cops Violently Removing Black Man From Bus For Not Wearing A Mask
https://newsone.com/3926132/septa-bus-coronavirus-mask-video
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"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in PPE and carrying a hypodermic."
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"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in PPE and carrying a hypodermic."
Agreed.
By the way, where in the hell do you buy surgical masks? Surgeons R Us? Serious question.
Even if you can buy them at Walgreens or CVS, are they stocked?
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/11/in-social-distancing-frenzy-little-rock-suburb-takes-little-girls-basketball-hoop/
On April 6, my 12-year-old daughter was playing basketball alone at the court, as she often does, when a city truck drove over to her. She quickly came home to get me. I headed down to the court to talk to the city workers, who told me that they were taking down the basketball rim to keep groups from gathering.
I was really conflicted by this news. On the one hand, I am really glad that our city is still employing the folks who work for the Parks and Recreation Department. On the other hand, this basketball court is seldom used by anyone besides my three children and is never used by a crowd. It is a public court that my tax dollars pay for.
I called the mayor to discuss it with him, and he said he considered basketball courts closed because all playground equipment in city parks had been roped off about a week and a half before. It was brought to his attention that children were still playing on basketball courts, so he had the rims removed.
On a local city forum, community members have been upset that children are outside during school hours. Our local schools have been closed for several weeks now, and they will not open again until next school year.
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https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2020/04/11/covid-19-kentucky-judge-grants-churchs-request-hold-services/2976560001/
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https://spectator.org/the-worst-governor-in-america/
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https://spectator.org/the-worst-governor-in-america/
Don't let it become a contest to the bottom....please
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https://spectator.org/the-worst-governor-in-america/
Two key points from this article:
1. Seeds to grow your own food are not essential
2. Outbreak is mostly Detroit but restrictions apply everywhere, even where there is little or no outbreak
This looks to me like the dictate of someone living in a city who believes the urban environment to be the whole of the universe. Someone with zero connection to growing food and zero awareness of people who do not live an urban lifestyle.
This is the core belief at the center of the Democrat side of the cultural divide. The big blue cities have “become” America to them. All the little red counties in between are invisible to them, and when they are forced to notice them, they hold them in contempt (deplorables, rednecks, etc.)
But policies they apply to their universe are being indiscriminately applied everywhere without considering the differences, such as people who rely on their own gardens for food.
The split is complete; we are now two separate nations. Trump won because he spoke to the “forgotten man”. Whitmer is illustrating perfectly here that she has no empathy or concern for the other nation, and doesn’t even have any clue about their lifestyle.
It doesn’t look hopeful this divide can be fixed.
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https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/12/the-thin-facade-of-authority/
Practical wisdom might warn that one also does not erode the Constitution because of a mysterious virus, in the sense one does not arrest ministers preaching in parking lots, or those walking hand in hand alongside the road.
Given past misadventures in times of crisis from Woodrow Wilson’s wartime de facto suspension of the First Amendment to FDR’s internment of Japanese-Americans, one should not advocate instituting a national register of the infected and recovered, as some sort of super citizenry and then entrust such knowledge to what we know of the civil liberty sensitivities of Silicon Valley—all because a Bill Gates or Anthony Fauci believe their expertise leads them to think it may be a good idea.
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https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/12/the-thin-facade-of-authority/
What you quoted there is exactly what I’m worried about. Using technology to create a database of people’s virus status is absolutely terrifying. Claiming it is “opt in” is the biggest steaming pile of horseshit I ever heard. No way in hell it will NOT end up like geofence data or FISA court abuses and so on.
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https://karenkataline.com/tyranny-is-the-deadliest-virus/
The more that Americans dutifully comply with increasingly strict orders from politicians and government bureaucrats to shut down their lives and their livelihoods and confine themselves to their homes, the stricter and more stringent those orders continue to become
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Two key points from this article:
1. Seeds to grow your own food are not essential
2. Outbreak is mostly Detroit but restrictions apply everywhere, even where there is little or no outbreak
This looks to me like the dictate of someone living in a city who believes the urban environment to be the whole of the universe. Someone with zero connection to growing food and zero awareness of people who do not live an urban lifestyle.
This is the core belief at the center of the Democrat side of the cultural divide. The big blue cities have “become” America to them. All the little red counties in between are invisible to them, and when they are forced to notice them, they hold them in contempt (deplorables, rednecks, etc.)
But policies they apply to their universe are being indiscriminately applied everywhere without considering the differences, such as people who rely on their own gardens for food.
The split is complete; we are now two separate nations. Trump won because he spoke to the “forgotten man”. Whitmer is illustrating perfectly here that she has no empathy or concern for the other nation, and doesn’t even have any clue about their lifestyle.
It doesn’t look hopeful this divide can be fixed.
The Urban/Metro Area (cities and suburbs) vs more Rural Areas is the biggest problem we have in our country.
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The Urban/Metro Area (cities and suburbs) vs more Rural Areas is the biggest problem we have in our country.
no. It is the people who can't understand the distinction between the those two types of areas, especially with respect to different needs.
Having metro areas and rural areas are not necessarily a problem.
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The Urban/Metro Area (cities and suburbs) vs more Rural Areas is the biggest problem we have in our country.
And the biggest problem with that biggest problem is that the one is the main producer of food and energy and other the main consumer. The urban “thinkers” want control over the rural “doers” when it finally occurs to them they are dependent on them.
Unfortunately the urban “thinkers” are the ones producing technology and now industry has become reliant on it, so it’s really a mutual dependence. But an extremely dangerous one for “flyover country” producers because technology can so easily be used to enslave.
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no. It is the people who can't understand the distinction between the those two types of areas, especially with respect to different needs.
Having metro areas and rural areas are not necessarily a problem.
True, the problem is that “city folk” are becoming farther and farther removed in time generationally from their rural ancestors.
Well maybe the real problem is the division of information sources, splitting in two and hardening into different mutually unrecognizable entities.
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no. It is the people who can't understand the distinction between the those two types of areas, especially with respect to different needs.
Having metro areas and rural areas are not necessarily a problem.
It is the divide in thought between Metro and Rural, but also that the Metro wants to DICTATE to the Rural with policies they don't want or like.
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It is the divide in thought between Metro and Rural, but also that the Metro wants to DICTATE to the Rural with policies they don't want or like.
And to justify that they portray them as stupid, Neanderthal, troglodytes, rednecks, backwoods, hillbillies, racist, xenophobic, islamophobic, clinging to guns and religion, and basically a different species from their enlightened evolved superior educated anointed selves.
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And to justify that they portray them as stupid, Neanderthal, troglodytes, rednecks, backwoods, hillbillies, racist, xenophobic, islamophobic, clinging to guns and religion, and basically a different species from their enlightened evolved superior educated anointed selves.
Exactly. They want to portray those people as beneath them, uneducated, and therefore WRONG about resisting more Socialism, more Regulations, Restrictions, and removal of Rights, Freedoms, and Liberty. That's why they just want to take away guns from the law abiding. They know criminals will still have them, and that it will NOT reduce violence.
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And to justify that they portray them as stupid, Neanderthal, troglodytes, rednecks, backwoods, hillbillies, racist, xenophobic, islamophobic, clinging to guns and religion, and basically a different species from their enlightened evolved superior educated anointed selves.
You mean exactly how steingar speaks to us....
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The Urban/Metro Area (cities and suburbs) vs more Rural Areas is the biggest problem we have in our country.
Yesterday I finally finished reading “The Discovery of Freedom” published in 1943 by Rose Wilder Lane and came across this relevant bit:
“In his old age Jefferson, considering the future, could not be sure that the Revolution would succeed. Eternal vigilance, he said, is the price of liberty. Would Americans in the unknown future remember that? Who could say? Only the ordinary, unknown individual could defend freedom on earth, for not by any use of force can men in Government maintain any man’s use of his natural human rights. In two centuries or so, he thought—say about the year 2000 —the Mississippi valley would be settled. Then there would be the danger of cities growing up. Men lose touch with reality in cities.”
I wondered where Lane learned of Jefferson’s pro-rural, anti-city bias and found these quotes from his works on the net:
“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” — Thomas Jefferson (2010). “The Works of Thomas Jefferson: 1799-1803”, p.147, Cosimo, Inc.
“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.” — Thomas Jefferson (2011). “Jefferson on Freedom: Wisdom, Advice, and Hints on Freedom, Democracy, and the American Way”, p.9, Skyhorse Publishing, Inc.
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“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” — Thomas Jefferson (2010). “The Works of Thomas Jefferson: 1799-1803”, p.147, Cosimo, Inc.
“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.” — Thomas Jefferson (2011). “Jefferson on Freedom: Wisdom, Advice, and Hints on Freedom, Democracy, and the American Way”, p.9, Skyhorse Publishing, Inc.
Jefferson was one of the wisest men in the history of our nation.
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Jefferson was one of the wisest men in the history of our nation.
wait, he owned slaves.
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wait, he owned slaves.
Oh, crap, you're right. I forgot. OK, he, like the Confederates MUST be erased from history. Off to the re-education camp I go. Steingar, one more for you here!
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Yesterday I finally finished reading “The Discovery of Freedom” published in 1943 by Rose Wilder Lane and came across this relevant bit:
“In his old age Jefferson, considering the future, could not be sure that the Revolution would succeed. Eternal vigilance, he said, is the price of liberty. Would Americans in the unknown future remember that? Who could say? Only the ordinary, unknown individual could defend freedom on earth, for not by any use of force can men in Government maintain any man’s use of his natural human rights. In two centuries or so, he thought—say about the year 2000 —the Mississippi valley would be settled. Then there would be the danger of cities growing up. Men lose touch with reality in cities.”
I wondered where Lane learned of Jefferson’s pro-rural, anti-city bias and found these quotes from his works on the net:
“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.” — Thomas Jefferson (2010). “The Works of Thomas Jefferson: 1799-1803”, p.147, Cosimo, Inc.
“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.” — Thomas Jefferson (2011). “Jefferson on Freedom: Wisdom, Advice, and Hints on Freedom, Democracy, and the American Way”, p.9, Skyhorse Publishing, Inc.
Damn. He hit the nail on the head.
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https://pjmedia.com/trending/authorities-investigate-illicit-amish-wedding-in-sleepy-ohio-hamlet-population-3220/
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https://pjmedia.com/trending/authorities-investigate-illicit-amish-wedding-in-sleepy-ohio-hamlet-population-3220/
I have some very unchristian thoughts about the snitch...
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https://pjmedia.com/trending/authorities-investigate-illicit-amish-wedding-in-sleepy-ohio-hamlet-population-3220/
Ja, snitches get stitches und vind up in ditches.
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https://pjmedia.com/blog/modeling-covid-19-and-the-lies-of-multiculturalism/
However, culture is the most important – or should be the most important – in modeling the spread of any disease in a human population. Next and almost equal to it should be the physical home of that culture: where do the people live? How dense is the population? How much air do they share?
The models for how bad COVID-19 would be, and the measures for mitigating its spread, all, without exception, ignore these factors.
I don’t think COVID-19 is a hoax. (Though frankly, this news makes me wonder, but that’s another matter.) I do think it has got really bad “in clusters.”
I also think if you go and look at the clusters, you’ll find that there are reasons why it got exceptionally bad there, but not anywhere else. And it was never going to get as bad anywhere else. And the measures should have been taken specifically in those places, without the ruinous cost of crashing the economy.
For instance, my friend in Albany, Georgia, tells me he assumes part of the reason it got so bad in his neighborhood (the worst per capita in the U.S. last I looked) is that “we are the touchiest, most social people I know,” i.e., there is a lot of touching and hugging.
At a guess, this is the reason it got so bad in Italy, too, but not nearly as bad in Germany, where, frankly, people aren’t that touchy/feely/huggy.
New York City — do I really need to say this? — is not Colorado.
I can go months without using an elevator. I can’t remember the last time I used a subway, and the last time I used public transport was last year while visiting my parents in Portugal – and even then, only when I was going to downtown Porto because it’s almost impossible to park. If I keep the curtains closed in the bathroom, I can’t see my closest neighbor (who admittedly is close, but that's on one side). That’s in Denver. I have open space in the front and back of the house, and the only people I share air with are my family.
Now, in NYC, besides the fact they all live in modified closets with shared air, you can’t get anywhere without rubbing elbows with strangers. Subways and elevators are simply parts of daily life for most New Yorkers. And as for social distancing… well! Every time I go East, when I hit the first layover, I want to start singing, “Don’t stand so close to me.”
So, would a complete lockdown of the city, with perhaps distribution of food so the grocery stores could be closed, make sense for NYC? Sure it would. Of course it would.
A grave violation of everyone’s rights? Sure. No doubt about that. But perhaps necessary for a limited time in a limited space.
Does a complete lockdown in places where the culture is completely different make any sense? No. Also no. With a side of no.
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The rash of snitching is the undeniable rise of fascism in the progressive movement.
The progressive are the most hate filled, jealous, nasty and deliciously deluded group of people in the USA
Their desire to control, reduce and enslave is mind boggling in as much as they deluded themselves by using the term white supremacy and other discriminatory and inflammatory rhetoric.
The hypocrisy coming out of the mouth and mind of progressives would make Mao. Lush.
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Someone needed to write an app, “Brown Shirt” app that would allow you to report people and then dump the info in the bit bucket, never to be seen by anyone.
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The rash of snitching is the undeniable rise of fascism in the progressive movement.
The progressive are the most hate filled, jealous, nasty and deliciously deluded group of people in the USA
Their desire to control, reduce and enslave is mind boggling in as much as they deluded themselves by using the term white supremacy and other discriminatory and inflammatory rhetoric.
The hypocrisy coming out of the mouth and mind of progressives would make Mao. Lush.
You have an intense way of expressing things but I agree with every word. The progressive left called Candace Owens a white supremacist. They are completely deranged.