PILOT SPIN
Pilot Zone => Pilot Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on May 18, 2020, 09:17:09 AM
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https://www.cnet.com/features/parking-a-375-million-airplane-takes-more-than-just-locking-the-door/
Craig Barton may have the most difficult parking valet job in history.
As airlines around the world have grounded substantial numbers of their planes after the coronavirus pandemic decimated travel, the head of technical operations for American Airlines has spent the past two months trying to figure out where to park hundreds of planes. We're talking aircraft like the $375 million Boeing 777-300, a wide-body that's 242 feet long, with a wingspan of 200 feet.
"It's not the same as just putting your car in your garage and walking away for a month," Barton said. "There's not one place in the world where we could stick a few hundred airplanes."
Since January, as COVID-19 has spread across the globe and governments have ordered stay-at-home lockdowns, people have stopped flying and bookings have vanished. By the second week in May, the Federal Aviation Administration was reporting that the number of commercial flights operating in the US, both domestic and international, had dropped 71% from the same period last year. Airlines, many of which had been on years-long aircraft buying sprees, suddenly found themselves with more planes than they needed. That left them with only one option: Keep the extra planes grounded until demand for air travel returns.
According to Cirium, a data and analytics firm that focuses on the travel industry, about 17,000 jets are now parked worldwide, representing about two-thirds of all commercial airliners.
It's not just a terrible financial prospect for an airline -- an airplane not carrying paying passengers is a depreciating asset -- it's also billions of dollars of highly sophisticated aircraft, all needing parking spots. And it's about more than just finding a place to wait out the pandemic, says Barton, who's responsible for overseeing American's fleet of 950 planes. Every airliner also needs constant attention so it's ready to return to the sky. "We have almost daily tasks that we have to do on each one," he said.
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Tell them to bitch to the New World Order, Globalist politicians and bureaucrats who ordered this unnecessary lock down and purposeful economic collapse. Maybe their high dollar CEO's and BOARD MEMBERS who are well connected to people that caused this mess can convince them yet more government bailouts are necessary. Of course THEY know they won't pay for it. Their income and wealth is sheltered. The Middle Income earner will pay for it.
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They need someone with more experience packing aircraft into a hangar. Wingtip to wingtip is pretty much the least efficient ways (of course, if they want to easily get at any random aircraft...).
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They need someone with more experience packing aircraft into a hangar.
I was thinking the same thing. They need to get some Navy guys working on this problem.
Tim
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My buddy flies a 777 for Delta. He doesn’t want to go to Airbus, so may go back to the 757. Kind of tired of the international stuff anyway.
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My buddy flies a 777 for Delta. He doesn’t want to go to Airbus, so may go back to the 757. Kind of tired of the international stuff anyway.
I have heard the 75's are going away at Delta as well.
From just the chatter, it appears Delta is moving towards an Airbus fleet eventually.
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I have heard the 75's are going away at Delta as well.
From just the chatter, it appears Delta is moving towards an Airbus fleet eventually.
I think Boeing really screwed themselves with the 737 Max. They probably could use ANOTHER Fed bailout. ::)
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I think Boeing really screwed themselves with the 737 Max. They probably could use ANOTHER Fed bailout. ::)
Boeing rejected the latest fed bail out.
Boeing is a prime example of what happens to a legacy company when everything is taken over by the bean counters. Boeing use to be a company run by engineers who took pride in engineering technology.
The Max was rushed to market in defense of the Airbus 320 series NEO. The primary objective? Profit.
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Boeing rejected the latest fed bail out.
Boeing is a prime example of what happens to a legacy company when everything is taken over by the bean counters. Boeing use to be a company run by engineers who took pride in engineering technology.
The Max was rushed to market in defense of the Airbus 320 series NEO. The primary objective? Profit.
No worries. My buddy has a shirt that says “If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going.”
Now Boeing is insulating themselves by becoming SJWs:
https://www.boeingstore.com/
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Now Boeing is insulating themselves by becoming SJWs:
https://www.boeingstore.com/
You have got to be effing sh*tting me. Eff them. I go by Grumman or don't go. :)
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Another unintended consequence of this shutdown hysteria. Why didn’t we halt all travel in 1957 for the Asian flu pandemic which had a case fatality rate of 0.67%? The case fatality rate of covid19 is going to end up somewhere in that same neighborhood or less. History is going to show this was the biggest disaster caused by human stupidity since communism.
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Another unintended consequence of this shutdown hysteria. Why didn’t we halt all travel in 1957 for the Asian flu pandemic which had a case fatality rate of 0.67%? The case fatality rate of covid19 is going to end up somewhere in that same neighborhood or less. History is going to show this was the biggest disaster caused by human stupidity since communism.
But will we allow it to happen again?
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Another unintended consequence of this shutdown hysteria. Why didn’t we halt all travel in 1957 for the Asian flu pandemic which had a case fatality rate of 0.67%? The case fatality rate of covid19 is going to end up somewhere in that same neighborhood or less. History is going to show this was the biggest disaster caused by human stupidity since communism.
Yes, but the Media/Democrat alliance will say the only reason the deaths are a lot less is due to the drastic measures we've taken. So, guess what? They can do it again if they need to try to smear a Republican. If Hillary had been President, there would have been NO shutdown and NO economic collapse.
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Yes, but the Media/Democrat alliance will say the only reason the deaths are a lot less is due to the drastic measures we've taken. So, guess what? They can do it again if they need to try to smear a Republican. If Hillary had been President, there would have been NO shutdown and NO economic collapse.
There still would have been an economic collapse, just not related to anything COVID.
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Another unintended consequence of this shutdown hysteria. Why didn’t we halt all travel in 1957 for the Asian flu pandemic which had a case fatality rate of 0.67%? The case fatality rate of covid19 is going to end up somewhere in that same neighborhood or less. History is going to show this was the biggest disaster caused by human stupidity since communism.
Something to consider: the medical experts know more about infectious diseases now than they did 60 years ago. (I'm being serious, and by "medical experts" I mean actual experts, not self-proclaimed buttheads).
btw - you might ask why there was no shutdown for the Hong Kong flu (don't know the CFR, just that the CDC estimates that it killed 100,000 in the US and at leasat 1 million worldwide)
If nothing else, there will be lots of information that can be studied to look at soft lockdowns in NYC, etc vs other areas that aren't as dense (yup).
It'll be interesting to see the number of people who get the flu or the common cold this coming flu season.
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Yes, but the Media/Democrat alliance will say the only reason the deaths are a lot less is due to the drastic measures we've taken. So, guess what? They can do it again if they need to try to smear a Republican. If Hillary had been President, there would have been NO shutdown and NO economic collapse.
That’s right, it would have been like Obama and swine flu, because Fauci was in charge then too. We would have no shutdown and no economic falling off a cliff, only the gradual decay and rot caused by whatever progressive policies she would have implemented.