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Title: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Anthony on May 31, 2020, 08:45:39 AM
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Biden on the Death of George Floyd: We Need to “Root Out Systemic Racism

This is the new narrative.  Hate Whitey and White America is evil because the U.S. is Systemically Racist.  Meaning, we can't help ourselves and new, draconian measures must be put in place to end "Inequality" and ensure Social and ECONOMIC Justice.  meaning more taxes on the Middle Income Earner for Man Made Climate Change.     >:(

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This is the norm black people in this country deal with. They don’t have to imagine it. The anger and the frustration and the exhaustion, it’s undeniable. But that’s not the promise of America. It’s long past time we made the promise of this nation real for all people. You know, this is no time for incendiary tweets. This is no time to encourage violence. This is a national crisis, and we need real leadership right now. Leadership that will bring everyone to the table so we can take measures to root out systemic racism.

I HATE the Democrats and their God forsaken MEDIA.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/biden-calls-for-country-to-root-out-systemic-racism.html
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 31, 2020, 09:20:28 AM
This is the new narrative.  ...

nothing new about that rhetoric
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Rush on May 31, 2020, 10:40:45 AM
What I love is all the blacks making videos outside mainstream (leftist) media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PalAs0kCio
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Anthony on May 31, 2020, 11:17:59 AM
nothing new about that rhetoric

True, but now it is a full court press to show an ISOLATED incident of police misconduct, (that is already being punished, btw), is PROOF that all White Americans are Racist and that is a huge embedded problem in society.  It is NOT.

Of course we need the Democrats to step in, regulate, restrict, tax and game the system to make "inequality" disappear.  It is effing nuts. 
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Rush on May 31, 2020, 11:41:27 AM
The Democrats are going to milk this as hard as they can until the election, mark my words. They don't give a flying fuck if businesses are burned to the ground and people are killed in riots. They will stoke it through the biased media like pouring gasoline on fire. They are desperate and grabbing at everything they can to unseat Trump and demonize anyone who supports him.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Anthony on May 31, 2020, 11:43:53 AM
The Democrats are going to milk this as hard as they can until the election, mark my words. They don't give a flying fuck if businesses are burned to the ground and people are killed in riots. They will stoke it through the biased media like pouring gasoline on fire. They are desperate and grabbing at everything they can to unseat Trump and demonize anyone who supports him.

The Americans are RACIST narrative and the Virus response/Economic collapse will be their two main LIES to try to smear Trump. 
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: nddons on May 31, 2020, 03:01:33 PM
Nothing makes me want to vomit more than whites apologizing for being white. Liberals and activists are manipulating these people, and they buy right into it.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Little Joe on June 01, 2020, 04:49:35 AM
We had a couple of protests in our area yesterday.  There was no violence and there were many white people joining in the march.

One sign that I thought was appropriate was "it's not black vs white; its us vs racists".

But it was just a picture.  The article made no mention of it.  They just talked about systemic racism.  From the article, I would have thought that even I am a racist.  If I were black now and reading or listening to the MSM, I would believe that ALL white people are racists.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Rush on June 01, 2020, 06:20:58 AM
My sister's skyping me right now. She and mom live near downtown Raleigh, she said it started around midnight, there were popping sounds she doesn't know if they were guns or people blowing stuff up but she thinks they were tear gas bombs and also helicopters all night long. They have broken everything downtown and are moving to nearby strip malls and as far as North Hills Mall (the old IBM suburbia) she said they've arrested people there.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Anthony on June 01, 2020, 06:22:30 AM
It is obviously the new DNC talking point.  They gave their orders to the MEDIA and all the Democrat politicians, activists, agitators, etc.  ALL White America is Racist, and racist specifically against Black people.  We have Institutional Racism, and Systemic Racism and it is subconscious and unconscious.  Even if we do nothing racist, we are still racist in our hearts and minds.   

It is like Original Sin, we possess it in the womb, except there is no cure.  We must forever feel guilty for being White, and having White Privilege.  We also must accept, promote, vote for, and support all kinds of "Fixes" like more Affirmative Action, and Police and Judicial reforms giving Blacks a pass.  They already get Plea Deals from DA's and get right back on the street after committing violent crime. 
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Lucifer on June 01, 2020, 06:26:51 AM
The virus hoax fell apart.  Grennel and Ratcliff are releasing all the documents pertaining to ObamaGate.

They need to pump this latest for all it's worth.

Question is, what's the next hoax when this finally falls apart?
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 01, 2020, 07:15:16 AM
Question is, what's the next hoax when this finally falls apart?

It won't fall apart.  There are enough stupid racist people that there will continue to be racial violence.

Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Lucifer on June 01, 2020, 07:23:53 AM
It won't fall apart.  There are enough stupid racist people that there will continue to be racial violence.

It will fall apart, it always does when the money stops being handed out. 
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: nddons on June 01, 2020, 07:37:26 AM
We had a couple of protests in our area yesterday.  There was no violence and there were many white people joining in the march.

One sign that I thought was appropriate was "it's not black vs white; its us vs racists".

But it was just a picture.  The article made no mention of it.  They just talked about systemic racism.  From the article, I would have thought that even I am a racist.  If I were black now and reading or listening to the MSM, I would believe that ALL white people are racists.
I saw a clip of CNN’s in-house racist Don Lemmon talking with Chris Cuomo and getting Cuomo to “admit” that backs can’t be racist, and when asked who are the only people who can end racism, Cuomo was compelled to say “white people.” 

I’ve never seen anything like the level of racism going on, including that exchange.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 01, 2020, 07:40:20 AM
I saw a clip of CNN’s in-house racist Don Lemmon talking with Chris Cuomo and getting Cuomo to “admit” that backs can’t be racist, and when asked who are the only people who can end racism, Cuomo was compelled to say “white people.” 

I’ve never seen anything like the level of racism going on, including that exchange.

bah - the only-whites-can-be-racist has been a theme for a long time.  We had moroons on POA making those claims before the spinzone was shutdown..
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Anthony on June 01, 2020, 07:45:51 AM
I saw a clip of CNN’s in-house racist Don Lemmon talking with Chris Cuomo and getting Cuomo to “admit” that blacks can’t be racist, and when asked who are the only people who can end racism, Cuomo was compelled to say “white people.” 

I’ve never seen anything like the level of racism going on, including that exchange.

Yes, Blacks are IMMUNE from being Racist is the current drumbeat, but nothing new.  However, they are ratcheting up that narrative along with ALL American Whites are racist.  Even Liberal/Progressive (Democrat) Whites.  Or are they also immune?  I think they get a pass if and only if they are ACTIVISTS that spread the White is Racist Mantra, and display SELF HATE and America Hate.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: nddons on June 01, 2020, 10:12:51 AM
bah - the only-whites-can-be-racist has been a theme for a long time.  We had moroons on POA making those claims before the spinzone was shutdown..
I vaguely remember that.

The difference now is the massive number of whites who buy into this self-flagellation.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Rush on June 01, 2020, 11:54:58 AM
Rush just broadcast a talk with the breakfast club which is apparently a show hosted by a few black supremacists, I guess, I can’t come up with another description other than they want to completely dismantle and overthrow the “white supremacist system” or as it’s more commonly known, the USA.  And if they dismantle the current system what do they suggest replace it? They said “old white men” are the problem so I suppose that means the only legitimate replacement would be young black women.

Rush warned that they would anger us, but I wasn’t angered, they were not rude, it was actually more pleasant exchange than I expected. My take on them was that they’re very soaked in mainstream media propaganda. After being educated that capitalism is evil. Put a racist spin on it and there you have it.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: nddons on June 01, 2020, 12:21:00 PM
Rush just broadcast a talk with the breakfast club which is apparently a show hosted by a few black supremacists, I guess, I can’t come up with another description other than they want to completely dismantle and overthrow the “white supremacist system” or as it’s more commonly known, the USA.  And if they dismantle the current system what do they suggest replace it? They said “old white men” are the problem so I suppose that means the only legitimate replacement would be young black women.

Rush warned that they would anger us, but I wasn’t angered, they were not rude, it was actually more pleasant exchange than I expected. My take on them was that they’re very soaked in mainstream media propaganda. After being educated that capitalism is evil. Put a racist spin on it and there you have it.
I heard that. Rush was very respectful to them, but they were marginally respectful. 

What for me was one guys insistence that Rush acknowledge that he has “white privilege.”  It was blind simplemindedness, and demonstrated the lack of depth of their conversation.

At some point Rush said something like “if you’re going to attribute every societal I’ll to White privilege, then there’s nothing else to talk about.”  Bingo.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Rush on June 01, 2020, 12:48:21 PM
I heard that. Rush was very respectful to them, but they were marginally respectful. 

What for me was one guys insistence that Rush acknowledge that he has “white privilege.”  It was blind simplemindedness, and demonstrated the lack of depth of their conversation.

At some point Rush said something like “if you’re going to attribute every societal I’ll to White privilege, then there’s nothing else to talk about.”  Bingo.

Yes, very close minded.  I took that to be the brain washing of the left (the whole white privilege thing).  It's just a repackaging of Marxism. Substitute "black" for "downtrodden workers". Same thing.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Mr Pou on June 01, 2020, 01:08:02 PM
Yes, very close minded.  I took that to be the brain washing of the left (the whole white privilege thing).  It's just a repackaging of Marxism. Substitute "black" for "downtrodden workers". Same thing.

How long can the good fight go on? I mean, with schools indoctrinating the young into socialism, how long can we hold on to the USA we know? I'm just flabbergasted at the constant bombardment of hoax and issue after hoax and issue. And that's what it is, mental carpet bombing until all submit.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: nddons on June 01, 2020, 01:33:39 PM
How long can the good fight go on? I mean, with schools indoctrinating the young into socialism, how long can we hold on to the USA we know? I'm just flabbergasted at the constant bombardment of hoax and issue after hoax and issue. And that's what it is, mental carpet bombing until all submit.
Exactly!!!!  It is no longer diversity and inclusion. It is “on your knees and submit.”

I for one refuse.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: bflynn on June 01, 2020, 01:40:08 PM
I'm reminded of a leadership lesson about responsibility and authority.  In brief, you cannot be responsible for something you do not have authority over.

"White people" as a group do not have the ability to end racism.  What it was like 50 years ago has been smashed and there's zero doubt from almost everyone that racism is unacceptable.  The lingering holdouts insisting that they still see racism around every corner are some hyper sensitive blacks who look at everything as a slight. 

Are there still some things to do?  Yes, but very little of it falls to white people.  It's a legitimate claim that the crimes black people are committing are more harshly punished...but then why do they commit them?

For me, almost every example of the black community lagging - in universities, in housing, in jobs - resolves back to not a lack of opportunity, but a lack of educational success.  But, at least in NC, schools are taught to the 2nd std deviation down, to an IQ of 70.  That level was chosen to meet the "95% success" goal because statistically, 95% of people are above an IQ of 70.   Yet the black community continues to have a much lower graduation rate than other communities.  At that point, you either state (racistly) that blacks really are dumber or you look at what else goes on in schools.  There are behavior problems that cause students to be suspended, blacks more often.  And I believe there is a cultural issue in play where academic success is mocked by peers.  Bad behavior and a lack of effort causes them to sacrifice their future.

Prove me wrong.

Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Rush on June 01, 2020, 01:59:19 PM
How long can the good fight go on? I mean, with schools indoctrinating the young into socialism, how long can we hold on to the USA we know? I'm just flabbergasted at the constant bombardment of hoax and issue after hoax and issue. And that's what it is, mental carpet bombing until all submit.

It’s everywhere, I was just listening to a press conference in some state or other about everything, coronavirus, funding, schools, the riots, etc. and the press were asking questions like, “What are you gonna do about systemic racism?”  And the guy is like, I’m just up here reporting current stuff, what do you want me to say? Dismantle the Constitution of the United States? I’m not even federal.

I mean the approach of the journalists is from a position of a priori assumption that there is a grand conspiracy of racism going on behind it all, rather than parsing particular issues.

Like the war on drugs. I’m “militant” (in a non literal way) about that subject. It hurts us ALL, not just blacks but it hurts blacks disproportionately simply because they have lower socioeconomic status disproportionately. It hurts “non-poor white people” by making it exceedingly difficult to legally get needed treatment for real pain problems, and it causes crime which hurts everyone but again, the disadvantaged more. It’s not a race thing. Just take that one issue and solve it, it’s something we can address.

Look for other actual concrete things such as creating jobs. When manufacturing left inner cities it was a catastrophe for black communities. Before that they were increasingly pulling out of poverty but when the jobs left, the welfare state was created and marriage rates plummeted, with devastating effect.

But these people do not want that. They don’t want to solve actual problems. They want to sweep away the very foundation of our country, because according to them, white people created the U.S., therefore they set it up so that forever more white people would be preferred, therefore the only thing to do is to undo the U.S. They cannot tell you how this is so, especially after the fourteenth amendment, other than “capitalism is bad”.

We cannot deal with these people, they have been indoctrinated as radical revolutionaries with a utopian vision and don’t want compromise or change. They want total destruction.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 01, 2020, 02:02:18 PM
...  And I believe there is a cultural issue in play where academic success is mocked by peers. ...

Prove me wrong.

Are you saying that mocking academic success is something only in black communities?  I can guarantee you that mocking academic success occurs even in almost entirely white communities.

I have no way of assessing if black communities mock academic success significantly more than white communities.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Anthony on June 01, 2020, 02:18:35 PM
How long can the good fight go on? I mean, with schools indoctrinating the young into socialism, how long can we hold on to the USA we know? I'm just flabbergasted at the constant bombardment of hoax and issue after hoax and issue. And that's what it is, mental carpet bombing until all submit.

I don't know.  I ask myself that every day.  We are undergoing the Fundamental Transformation that Obama promised, and Trump was just slowing it down until the Virus and everything else they are throwing at us up to and then beyond the election.   We are dealing with Utopian-ism and Marxism from all sides packaged as Social and Economic Justice, "Equality", and Fairness.  I received my alumni magazine from grad school the other day.  A prestigious university, meaning a Far Left indoctrination center.  On the cover was an article by a PhD Economics professor entitled "Inequality Economics". Look at this guy, what do you see?  Everything is now about forced equality.  Marxism.

(https://thepenngazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/lockwood_TL_3689_003B_final.jpg)

The Virus response and now this Racial OVER REACTION are ways the MEDIA, Democrats, Education, TECH, Social Media and Government can further control us.  We are closer to a civil war than ever in my lifetime. 

Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: nddons on June 01, 2020, 02:41:52 PM
I'm reminded of a leadership lesson about responsibility and authority.  In brief, you cannot be responsible for something you do not have authority over.

"White people" as a group do not have the ability to end racism.  What it was like 50 years ago has been smashed and there's zero doubt from almost everyone that racism is unacceptable.  The lingering holdouts insisting that they still see racism around every corner are some hyper sensitive blacks who look at everything as a slight. 

Are there still some things to do?  Yes, but very little of it falls to white people.  It's a legitimate claim that the crimes black people are committing are more harshly punished...but then why do they commit them?

For me, almost every example of the black community lagging - in universities, in housing, in jobs - resolves back to not a lack of opportunity, but a lack of educational success.  But, at least in NC, schools are taught to the 2nd std deviation down, to an IQ of 70.  That level was chosen to meet the "95% success" goal because statistically, 95% of people are above an IQ of 70.   Yet the black community continues to have a much lower graduation rate than other communities.  At that point, you either state (racistly) that blacks really are dumber or you look at what else goes on in schools.  There are behavior problems that cause students to be suspended, blacks more often.  And I believe there is a cultural issue in play where academic success is mocked by peers.  Bad behavior and a lack of effort causes them to sacrifice their future.

Prove me wrong.
You’re wrong about white people not having the ability to end racism. White people are the ONLY ones who can end racism. It’s got to be true. I heard it from Don Lemon on CNN.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Number7 on June 01, 2020, 04:05:35 PM
You’re wrong about white people not having the ability to end racism. White people are the ONLY ones who can end racism. It’s got to be true. I heard it from Don Lemon on CNN.

WHITE people are the only ones that can end racism because the black separatist movement will do anything to keep it alive and stoke the fire of hate and violence, even if it means buring down their own neighborhoods to get free nikes and flat screen tvs.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: bflynn on June 02, 2020, 07:20:34 AM
Are you saying that mocking academic success is something only in black communities?  I can guarantee you that mocking academic success occurs even in almost entirely white communities.

I have no way of assessing if black communities mock academic success significantly more than white communities.

It's not merely mocking in the black community, it is a belief that academic success is wrong, that it makes you less black and therefore is bad.  I'm suggesting it's a cultural issue slanted against doing well in school.  "Being Black" is what kids are taught and that means acting in ways that disadvantages them in life.

Should they be able to act like drug dealers with disposable bitches on the side and still be acceptable to be a CEO?  Ummmmm, no.
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Anthony on June 02, 2020, 07:23:53 AM
It's not merely mocking in the black community, it is a belief that academic success is wrong, that it makes you less black and therefore is bad.  I'm suggesting it's a cultural issue slanted against doing well in school.  "Being Black" is what kids are taught and that means acting in ways that disadvantages them in life.

Should they be able to act like drug dealers with disposable bitches on the side and still be acceptable to be a CEO?  Ummmmm, no.

I agree that it occurs more in the Black Community.  They want to continue a SEPARATE, distinct, victimized, failed culture.  Look at the names they choose for their kids, designed specifically to identify them as different and BLACK. 
Title: Re: New Democrat and Media Narrative - U.S. has SYSTEMIC RACISM
Post by: Lucifer on June 02, 2020, 07:45:44 AM
Racism is promoted by the MSM and the race hustlers, and is used by the progressive left as an effort to secure a voting base.  It's an effective tool that they continue to manipulate.

 But the truth of the matter, the race hustlers only use it for their enrichment, and the MSM and the progressive left only want it for the vote.   None of these groups have the slightest desire to improve race relations or uplift the black community.  This is why the progressive left and their MSM have such hatred of conservatives, because the conservatives have actually tried to uplift the black community.

 This goes all the way back to the civil war and reconstruction.  While the conservatives were trying to free the slaves, then enact rights for the freed slaves, the democrats were fighting them all the way.  It was the democrats behind the Jim Crow Laws, it was the democrats behind the KKK and other terrorism movements, and it was the democrats behind the heinous crimes being waged against the blacks. It was the democrats who fought against civil rights.  This lasted all the way into the 1960's.

 It was LBJ who discovered he could use the blacks as a voting base, and he did it with the Great Society by effectively using welfare as a way to buy votes.  Since the 1960's the democrats only show concern for the blacks when election time rolls around.  And that's all they do, is fake concern.  Once the election is over, they are once again put on ignore by the democrats.

 History tells us a story of the democrats and their racial hatred that the progressives are desperately trying to rewrite history.  The democrat party was founded on hatred and racism, and continues to this day.