PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 02, 2020, 07:53:25 AM
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Whites get ahead because of the color of their skin - they didn't earn it.
Blacks get the short end of the stick because of the color of their skin.
Everyone gets to blame it on others. No one takes responsibility for their own actions and decisions.
For the liberals, it's perfect.
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White Privilege is another attempt by the LEFT to justify more "Social and Economic Justice" measure to redistribute. AKA Communism.
As is "Systemic Racism". Don't you just love their buzzwords?
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I heard the whole issue summed up in one sentance from a news clip today by an African American protestor making a speech...
"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness have not been given to us yet..."
There is no doubt in my mind that blacks are at a social disadvantage over whites in large swaths of America, but I believe its is because of that belief rooted in their community as stated above.
They were not "given" to me either as a caucasian in America, rather made available to me if I so choose to stand up for the values that the Constitution affords and the society we have built.
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I heard the whole issue summed up in on sentance from a news clip today by an African American protestor making a speech...
"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness have not been given to us yet..."
There is no doubt in my mind that blacks are at a social disadvantage over whites in large swaths of America, but I believe its is because of that belief rooted in their community as stated above.
They were not "given" to me either as a caucasian in America, rather made available to me if I so choose to stand up for the values that the Constitution affords and the society we have built.
It is going to be hard to keep propping up the narrative that one’s personal choices were forced on one by society. The existence of tremendously or even just happily successful black people puts the lie to the victim narrative.
I’ve seen videos of strutting, smirking black people strolling into smashed up department stores with wheeled luggage and coming out loaded down with stolen goods. Some stash the loot in nice cars and drive off.
Americans first of all have won the birth lottery. From there, it’s up to you. In fact, laws are weighing down our legal system that give blacks MORE rights and opportunities than whites, and preferences in many hiring situations.
Not sorry for the ones who blame society.
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It is going to be hard to keep propping up the narrative that one’s personal choices were forced on one by society. The existence of tremendously or even just happily successful black people puts the lie to the victim narrative.
Go back and carefully re-read my post, That was my point...the sense of entitlement within that quote that is rampant within black community waiting for someone to "give" them those values is the issue IMO...and why those that do succeed and get ahead of those social disparities rise above that notion of it being someone else's problem.
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Yes, I was agreeing with you.
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Many Blacks and Progressives (Democrats, Communists) in the U.S. don't understand Equal OPPORTUNITY, but want Equal OUTCOMES. Meaning if they don't work, sacrifice and try to better themselves through education etc., they are ENTITLED to the same things others have. The Democrats have successfully given their supporters an Entitlement mentality.
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Many Blacks and Progressives (Democrats, Communists) in the U.S. don't understand Equal OPPORTUNITY, but want Equal OUTCOMES. Meaning if they don't work, sacrifice and try to better themselves through education etc., they are ENTITLED to the same things others have. The Democrats have successfully given their supporters an Entitlement mentality.
It would appear that many people don't understand how there could be equal opportunity if there isn't equal outcome.
Of course, the notion of equal opportunitiy might be difficult to reconcile when some parents can send their child to a better college than others can afford. Do we have to dumb down everyone's education to make it equal?
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Of course, the notion of equal opportunitiy might be difficult to reconcile when some parents can send their child to a better college than others can afford.
I can see that, but then I see other things. Our document control specialist is a Bosnian woman, who lives a good middle class life. She and her husband were very young when they fled their homeland during the Bosnian war and made their way to the US. They arrived here with little money, but found fellow countrymen who put them up for a while. They both learned english, worked hard, became US citizens thru the proper methods, and just plain worked hard.
Her husband is now the head of mechanical maintenance for a decent sized company, they retained the duplex that was the first house they bought, now get rental income for both sides, and live in an average middle class home. One boy is now in college and they're set up to send the second when he graduates high school.
So, two non-Americans who arrived here with mere dollars in their pocket and are now living a life they never imagined they would when they left their war torn country.
I see things like this and propose that our poor, downtroden people are really just spoiled lazy bitches. And the Democrats pertetuate this by continuing to spoil them through entitlements.
"The Man owes it to me." Baloney. My dad always told me these two things while I was growing up. 1.) Boy, the world doesn't owe you anything, and 2.) Boy, life isn't fair. Deal with it.
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I can see that, but then I see other things. Our document control specialist is a Bosnian woman, who lives a good middle class life. She and her husband were very young when they fled their homeland during the Bosnian war and made their way to the US. They arrived here with little money, but found fellow countrymen who put them up for a while. They both learned english, worked hard, became US citizens thru the proper methods, and just plain worked hard.
Her husband is now the head of mechanical maintenance for a decent sized company, they retained the duplex that was the first house they bought, now get rental income for both sides, and live in an average middle class home. One boy is now in college and they're set up to send the second when he graduates high school.
So, two non-Americans who arrived here with mere dollars in their pocket and are now living a life they never imagined they would when they left their war torn country.
I see things like this and propose that our poor, downtroden people are really just spoiled lazy bitches. And the Democrats pertetuate this by continuing to spoil them through entitlements.
"The Man owes it to me." Baloney. My dad always told me these two things while I was growing up. 1.) Boy, the world doesn't owe you anything, and 2.) Boy, life isn't fair. Deal with it.
Yep, there is plenty of opportunity for anyone who wants it. And minorities have even more access to opportunity, such as reduced tuition, grants, business loans, government contracts, etc.
The key is they have to want it, and have to do what's necessary to get there.
But look at how many generations of poor we have living on public assistance. When the current generation has been raised living on public assistance, and their parents and grandparents lived on public assistance, it's a hard cycle to break when that's all they've known.
But then again, the system is working as designed. That's why the democrats cling to it.
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But then again, the system is working as designed. That's why the democrats cling to it.
Not only cling to it, but add to it as well. If the Dems get full control, expect universal income, another run at single payer state run healthcare, etc.
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Not only cling to it, but add to it as well. If the Dems get full control, expect universal income, another run at single payer state run healthcare, etc.
You just hate Black people, Women, Gays/Lesbians/Trans, Muslims, Undocumented Immigrants, the Poor, the Handicapped, people that marry too often............
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Not only cling to it, but add to it as well. If the Dems get full control, expect universal income, another run at single payer state run healthcare, etc.
Exactly. I even had a recent thread on that.
Just look at Nancy's $3 Trillion liberal wish list bill she pushed through the house. If the senate and WH was under democrat control, it would be law by now. The beginnings of universal income and single payer were right there.
I know people get tired of hearing it, but this next election will determine if this country survives or turns into a leftist progressive socialist hell hole. If they hold the house, get the WH, and even gain just a seat or two in the senate, they will begin to vote everything they can into law.
The past 3 years should be a wake up call. But, voter apathy is still rampant. Just getting people off their asses and to a poll (or even absentee) is just too much to ask.
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You just hate Black people, Women, Gays/Lesbians/Trans, Muslims, Undocumented Immigrants, the Poor, the Handicapped............
I'm not racist, I hate everybody equally.
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Perhaps mine is the last generation that was indoctrinated with the value that seeking help from the government was not only an absolute last resort, but also a shameful thing to do unless sheer horrid misfortune struck. And even then.
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" Can we talk about why black people are lagging in things like housing, income and jobs? It seems to me that every company wants to hire black people, but "qualified" seems to be the sticking point. Is it a matter of preparation instead of opportunity?"
OMG, WHAT A IGNORANT RACIST! I HATE YOU AND YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE! SHUT UP!
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It seems to me that every company wants to hire black people, but "qualified" seems to be the sticking point. Is it a matter of preparation instead of opportunity?"
OMG, WHAT A IGNORANT RACIST! I HATE YOU AND YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE! SHUT UP!
Why stay in school when the gov't will pay you anyway? Augment that with whatever you can scam/steal, and there is your career. Don't know whether to put this in green or not.
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Why stay in school when the gov't will pay you anyway? Augment that with whatever you can scam/steal, and there is your career. Don't know whether to put this in green or not.
I can’t recall where I read this, but the secret to success particularly in minority communities is having two parents in the household, and graduating high school.
In Milwaukee, the HS graduation rate is 62%. Nearly 4 out of 10 never get a diploma, and live life with the equivalent of an 8th grade education.
That is the overall rate. I don’t have it by race, but since Milwaukee isn’t all black, I can only imagine the back and Hispanic graduation rates are materially lower than that - possibly 50% or less.
And we are spending $13,000 per student per year.
It is a self-fulfilling prophesy.
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I'm not racist, I hate everybody equally.
ok Harry.
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I can’t recall where I read this, but the secret to success particularly in minority communities is having two parents in the household, and graduating high school.
In Milwaukee, the HS graduation rate is 62%. Nearly 4 out of 10 never get a diploma, and live life with the equivalent of an 8th grade education.
That is the overall rate. I don’t have it by race, but since Milwaukee isn’t all black, I can only imagine the back and Hispanic graduation rates are materially lower than that - possibly 50% or less.
And we are spending $13,000 per student per year.
It is a self-fulfilling prophesy.
I'm convinced the secret is succeeding in education, starting with the basics. I imagine that becomes even harder for a single parent to encourage when a kid is left to their own devices and learns values from their peer group. Especially if that peer group glorifies drugs, violence and thuggery.
I wish I could sit down with every 3-6th grader of every race and teach them how to be successful. How to get through high school with a decent education, go to college if they're able or learn a valuable trade if they can't. The opportunity is out there, but so many don't understand how easy it is.
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The best definition I heard of White Privilege is: the ability for whites to not have to consider the circumstances and challenges that I as a Black Man have to live with every day.
This, despite my net worth, despite my education, despite my Veteran status, despite my Professional qualifications...It is the fact that in some circumstances my motives are questioned when a White man who does the same thing gets a pass and his intentions are unquestioned and exempt from scrutiny. White Privilege is also the ability of whites to openly say "work as hard as I work and you'll get where I am" without acknowledging the historical context that includes racial profiling in the justice system, disparate allotment of public resources and the unspoken social codes that makes certain opportunity obscure or keeps them shared only amongst ones own demographics. White Privilege includes the theft of intellectual property or cultural conventions that when are misappropriated so demonstrate that when Blacks do it, it's characterized negatively and attributed to genetic disposition to crime and depravity but when Whites do it's "boys will be boys".
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While I acknowledge this is the reality of life, I lose no sleep over crying that "it's not fair", instead I approach it with the mindset of a game of strategy and tactics and knowing "IT JUST IS" but will not always be.
Have a good day. I just thought I'd see what's going on. I'm supposed to be paying attention to my online G1000 groundschool right now.
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I wonder when people will acknowledge that some people just don't care if someone is black.
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The best definition I heard of White Privilege is: the ability for whites to not have to consider the circumstances and challenges that I as a Black Man have to live with every day.
This, despite my net worth, despite my education, despite my Veteran status, despite my Professional qualifications...It is the fact that in some circumstances my motives are questioned when a White man who does the same thing gets a pass and his intentions are unquestioned and exempt from scrutiny. White Privilege is also the ability of whites to openly say "work as hard as I work and you'll get where I am" without acknowledging the historical context that includes racial profiling in the justice system, disparate allotment of public resources and the unspoken social codes that makes certain opportunity obscure or keeps them shared only amongst ones own demographics. White Privilege includes the theft of intellectual property or cultural conventions that when are misappropriated so demonstrate that when Blacks do it, it's characterized negatively and attributed to genetic disposition to crime and depravity but when Whites do it's "boys will be boys".
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While I acknowledge this is the reality of life, I lose no sleep over crying that "it's not fair", instead I approach it with the mindset of a game of strategy and tactics and knowing "IT JUST IS" but will not always be.
Have a good day. I just thought I'd see what's going on. I'm supposed to be paying attention to my online G1000 groundschool right now.
No. Racism is like most awful things ... in places but not everywhere. The attempt to divide us over claims of its systemic nature serves the organizers of chaos who will use any opening, like the video, to make it seem like racism is everywhere and they the socialists can fight it.
If anything, skin color has become the new badge of honor. Resources and hiring are deployed and decided in FAVOR of people of color. Reverse racism, a ridiculous phrase, is directly resultant from most specious cries of racism. I don’t have to think about being judged for my skin color? You just judged me.
At the slightest prompting some people of color will cry “racism” where there is none. Why? What should I think about video of black people strutting into bashed up department stores and strutting out smirking, laden with stolen goods? “Blacks will be blacks?” I heard one commenter say the terrorists are using “the only voice they have.” No.
No, Jaybird. Good to hear from you again. But no.
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I wonder when people will acknowledge that some people just don't care if someone is black.
To acknowledge that would be to take full personal responsibility for one’s choices. There are people of all colors who always will prefer to blame society for their own failure to rise above their circumstances.
Americans have won the birth lottery. Take it from there. There are legions of agencies, scholarships and just plain helpful people and mentors ... once you grasp responsibility for your future.
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The best definition I heard of White Privilege is: the ability for whites to not have to consider the circumstances and challenges that I as a Black Man have to live with every day.
This, despite my net worth, despite my education, despite my Veteran status, despite my Professional qualifications...It is the fact that in some circumstances my motives are questioned when a White man who does the same thing gets a pass and his intentions are unquestioned and exempt from scrutiny. White Privilege is also the ability of whites to openly say "work as hard as I work and you'll get where I am" without acknowledging the historical context that includes racial profiling in the justice system, disparate allotment of public resources and the unspoken social codes that makes certain opportunity obscure or keeps them shared only amongst ones own demographics. White Privilege includes the theft of intellectual property or cultural conventions that when are misappropriated so demonstrate that when Blacks do it, it's characterized negatively and attributed to genetic disposition to crime and depravity but when Whites do it's "boys will be boys".
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While I acknowledge this is the reality of life, I lose no sleep over crying that "it's not fair", instead I approach it with the mindset of a game of strategy and tactics and knowing "IT JUST IS" but will not always be.
Have a good day. I just thought I'd see what's going on. I'm supposed to be paying attention to my online G1000 groundschool right now.
Sorry, it's hard to take anyone serious about racism when that individual places a quote on every one of their postings from Louis Farrakhan, a racist and bigot.
You're known by the company you keep.
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I wonder when people will acknowledge that some people just don't care if someone is black.
May I respectfully say that this is also a form of racism in that it is a failure to recognize that our challenges aren't the same. It is not a noble thing to say "I don't see color". Read Ralph Ellison's "Invisible Man'.
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No. Racism is like most awful things ... in places but not everywhere. The attempt to divide us over claims of its systemic nature serves the organizers of chaos who will use any opening, like the video, to make it seem like racism is everywhere and they the socialists can fight it.
If anything, skin color has become the new badge of honor. Resources and hiring are deployed and decided in FAVOR of people of color. Reverse racism, a ridiculous phrase, is directly resultant from most specious cries of racism. I don’t have to think about being judged for my skin color? You just judged me.
At the slightest prompting some people of color will cry “racism” where there is none. Why? What should I think about video of black people strutting into bashed up department stores and strutting out smirking, laden with stolen goods? “Blacks will be blacks?” I heard one commenter say the terrorists are using “the only voice they have.” No.
No, Jaybird. Good to hear from you again. But no.
How do you differentiate between racial hypersensitivity, legitimate claims (that are often dismissed) and false claims based on a perceived slight? With the history that we inherit, who is qualified to judge? Those with privilege or those without?
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How do you differentiate between racial hypersensitivity, legitimate claims (that are often dismissed) and false claims based on a perceived slight? With the history that we inherit, who is qualified to judge? Those with privilege or those without?
I see race, color, ethnicity, clothing, car, hair style, age, and other factors when I see a person. We all do. We ALL JUDGE. That doesn't mean I will treat someone poorly for any of those things.
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May I respectfully say that this is also a form of racism in that it is a failure to recognize that our challenges aren't the same.
Non sequitur.
btw - Everyone faces challenges.
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Long time no see! Hope the G1000 ground school gets you squared away!
The best definition I heard of White Privilege is: the ability for whites to not have to consider the circumstances and challenges that I as a Black Man have to live with every day.
"Privilege," according to dictionaries, implies special treatment above and beyond normal rights and opportunities. So "White Privilege" means that I have been granted special treatments my whole life by other whites (and blacks too maybe?) That makes me feel pretty bad when I contemplate my past failures to get jobs, not hear back from people on any number of requests, and all the other trials and tribulations I've encountered in life from other people. I realize now it takes talent to screw up so much with all that privilege working for me.
It should not be surprising to you that "white privilege" gets a push-back from whites. Since whites were a sizable majority and still are a plurality of Americans, if most of the population has "white privilege" it kind of negates the whole point of "privilege" if most everyone has it, don't you think? Since many people feel "privileges" are unfair, they are targets for elimination. I think the term "white privilege" was a propaganda invention to help sweep away normal rights and opportunities from everyone rather than work to make them real for everyone.
This, despite my net worth, despite my education, despite my Veteran status, despite my Professional qualifications...It is the fact that in some circumstances my motives are questioned when a White man who does the same thing gets a pass and his intentions are unquestioned and exempt from scrutiny.
I'd be interested in specific instances where you encountered such disparate treatment and what evidence you may have that indicates it was due to racism. If I were black I'd be afraid I was committing confirmation bias in my personal observations.
White Privilege includes the theft of intellectual property
Examples where the theft was motivated by racism? I think of IP as being things like copyrights, trade secrets, and trade marks. If you mean things like jazz music, I'd disagree it was stolen. Good music styles get borrowed world-wide.
While I acknowledge this is the reality of life, I lose no sleep over crying that "it's not fair", instead I approach it with the mindset of a game of strategy and tactics and knowing "IT JUST IS" but will not always be.
Good attitude to have.
Have a good day. I just thought I'd see what's going on. I'm supposed to be paying attention to my online G1000 groundschool right now.
Good day to you too.
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Since I’m white I can’t possibly have a credible opinion on racism.
But if I did I would agree with every single word in this video.
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How do you differentiate between racial hypersensitivity, legitimate claims (that are often dismissed) and false claims based on a perceived slight? With the history that we inherit, who is qualified to judge? Those with privilege or those without?
Do you demand whites to kneel at the feet of the BLM and apologizing for this "white privilege" you speak about.
https://www.facebook.com/endemolnews/videos/3303589259672086/
Welcome back. Sorry you haven't matured since you last graced us. I get it. It's all whitey's fault. Including the 62% high school graduation rate in Milwaukee, right?
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How do you differentiate between racial hypersensitivity, legitimate claims (that are often dismissed) and false claims based on a perceived slight? With the history that we inherit, who is qualified to judge? Those with privilege or those without?
When I see words like “hypersensitivity” and “perceived slight,” I’m going to say yes, I do dismiss such claims.
Hell, there weren’t enough actual aggressions to satisfy the perpetually aggrieved anymore, so they had to come up with “microagressions” to keep the victim train rolling.
And I’m a woman. Do you see me blaming men for my own choices, failures or discomfort? No. Male privilege is a phrase. It doesn’t define or limit me, and never has.
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Wonders if Jaybird works with the schools near him to help raise the standard and make sure that the kids get a good education.
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I see race, color, ethnicity, clothing, car, hair style, age, and other factors when I see a person. We all do. We ALL JUDGE. That doesn't mean I will treat someone poorly for any of those things.
That is the very definition of fairness and inclusion. Its good you can admit that despite the messages being purveyed.
btw - Everyone faces challenges.
While challenges are inherent in life of any species on any level of existence, failure to acknowledge that there could exist socially engineered challenges for a subset of all living beings is sticking one's head in the sand.
"Privilege," according to dictionaries, implies special treatment above and beyond normal rights and opportunities. So "White Privilege" means that I have been granted special treatments my whole life by other whites (and blacks too maybe?) It should not be surprising to you that "white privilege" gets a push-back from whites. Since whites were a sizable majority and still are a plurality of Americans, if most of the population has "white privilege" it kind of negates the whole point of "privilege" if most everyone has it, don't you think? Since many people feel "privileges" are unfair, they are targets for elimination. I think the term "white privilege" was a propaganda invention to help sweep away normal rights and opportunities from everyone rather than work to make them real for everyone.I'd be interested in specific instances where you encountered such disparate treatment and what evidence you may have that indicates it was due to racism. If I were black I'd be afraid I was committing confirmation bias in my personal observations.Good day to you too.
Confirmation bias is a real phenomenon and worthy of discussion. On the balance, it would disingenuous to argue that America as a society has eliminated racial gaslighting that it is not just as real and prevalent, where whole groups of people are told "it's all in your mind".
Regarding the privilege or a majority, I concur its a poor term from your perspective, but it explains many things from mine. The alternative is to call it Black disadvantage, then we're accused of victimology and that's a Kobayashi Maru.
Wonders if Jaybird works with the schools near him to help raise the standard and make sure that the kids get a good education.
Reasonable question and I'll answer this way: Jaybird doesn't believe that institutional indoctrination is the proper prescription for this problem. Nevertheless, Jaybird's resume includes: a tenure as Assistant coach at his HS Alma Mater and a tenure as Head Coach where the job was more mentoring than teaching sports and a tenure as board member and eventually board chair at a decades-old private Montessori school. Jaybird currently is involved additional volunteer activities with youth ages 12-18 who are predominately from a demographic other than his own. Jaybird is father to 3 children. The eldest child has attended the local public school and both parents have been parent field trip volunteers. The other 2 attend private school where both Jaybird and Mrs. Jaybird are parent contributors in time, financial and other material resources as well as instructional assistance. Next school year, the family looks forward to consolidating all 3 children attending the same private schoolhouse.
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“Socially engineered challenges” swing in all directions and strike all colors and flavors. Some of those challenges are being engineered by black people to restrict white people as we speak.
So “Black disadvantage” smacks of victimology but “White privilege” does not?
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“Socially engineered challenges” swing in all directions and strike all colors and flavors. Some of those challenges are being engineered by black people to restrict white people as we speak.
So “Black disadvantage” smacks of victimology but “White privilege” does not?
Restrict White People's ability to do...what?
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Restrict White People's ability to do...what?
Speak freely in society. Not have to be a PC, Woke, SJW, Progressive, support TRUMP, not have White Guilt (White Privilege), etc. Support Social Engineering through more and more government programs using our Tax Dollars for purposes in which we DISAGREE.
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"Since we cannot get along with them in peace and equality, after giving them (Whites) 400 years of our sweat and blood and receiving in return some of the worst treatment human beings have ever experienced, we believe our contributions to this land and the suffering forced upon us by white America, justifies our demand for complete separation in a state or territory of our own.
...We know that the above plan for the solution of the black and white conflict is the best and only answer to the problem between two people."
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, The Muslim Program (https://www.noi.org/muslim-program/)
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Abe Lincoln offered that post-Civil War. It's called "Liberia."
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"Since we cannot get along with them in peace and equality, after giving them (Whites) 400 years of our sweat and blood and receiving in return some of the worst treatment human beings have ever experienced, we believe our contributions to this land and the suffering forced upon us by white America, justifies our demand for complete separation in a state or territory of our own.
...We know that the above plan for the solution of the black and white conflict is the best and only answer to the problem between two people."
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, The Muslim Program (https://www.noi.org/muslim-program/)
This is how the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center), a liberal progressive group BTW, defines the Nation of Islam:
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nation-islam
Since its founding in 1930, the Nation of Islam (NOI) has grown into one of the wealthiest and best-known organizations in black America, offering numerous programs and events designed to uplift African Americans. Nonetheless, its bizarre theology of innate black superiority over whites – a belief system vehemently and consistently rejected by mainstream Muslims – and the deeply racist, antisemitic and anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders, including top minister Louis Farrakhan, have earned the NOI a prominent position in the ranks of organized hate.
In Its Own Words
“These same Jews that are attacking the Minister are the blood relatives of the slave ship owners.”
– Nuri Muhammad, “Countering the Conspiracy to Destroy the Black Family,” November 2018
“Also pushing the federal government are the wicked members of the Jewish community, who have opposed every good deed and all of the good works of a good man.”
– Richard B. Muhammad, “Straight Words,” Final Call, Volume 37 Number 35, Aug. 14, 2018
“These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength. … It’s the wicked Jews, the false Jews, that are promoting lesbianism, homosexuality. It’s the wicked Jews, false Jews, that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!”
– Louis Farrakhan, Saviours’ Day speech, Feb. 26, 2006
“Who are the slumlords in the Black community? The so-called Jews. … Who is it sucking our blood in the Black community? A white imposter Arab and a white imposter Jew.”
– Speech by NOI national official Khalid Muhammad, Nov. 29, 1993
“Jews have been conclusively linked to the greatest criminal endeavor ever undertaken against an entire race of people … the black African Holocaust. … The effects of this unspeakable tragedy are still being felt among the peoples of the world at this very hour.”
– The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews (NOI book), 1991
“The Jews don’t like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that’s a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He wasn’t a great man for me as a black person, but he was a great German. Now, I’m not proud of Hitler’s evils against Jewish people, but that’s a matter of record. He raised Germany up from nothing. Well, in a sense you could say there’s a similarity in that we are raising our people up from nothing.”
– Louis Farrakhan, radio interview, March 11, 1984
“Integration is against the Desire and Will of God Who Wants and must Do that which is written He Will Come and Do: Restore the earth to its rightful owner (Black Man).”
– Elijah Muhammad, “Our Saviour Has Arrived,” 1974
And on the topic of racism:
Unfortunately for NOI, its efforts are tainted by a long history of racist and antisemitic rhetoric. Even prior to Farrakhan, NOI’s characterization of whites as “devils” was unwavering. The seeds of antisemitism were deeply rooted in the organization, with Elijah Muhammad preaching early on about greedy Jews who turned Jesus Christ in to the authorities.
So I find it ironic you come around wanting to discuss racism and "white privilege", then you start posting commentary from an acknowledged hate group promoting racism.
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That is the very definition of fairness and inclusion. Its good you can admit that despite the messages being purveyed.
While challenges are inherent in life of any species on any level of existence, failure to acknowledge that there could exist socially engineered challenges for a subset of all living beings is sticking one's head in the sand.
Confirmation bias is a real phenomenon and worthy of discussion. On the balance, it would disingenuous to argue that America as a society has eliminated racial gaslighting that it is not just as real and prevalent, where whole groups of people are told "it's all in your mind".
Regarding the privilege or a majority, I concur its a poor term from your perspective, but it explains many things from mine. The alternative is to call it Black disadvantage, then we're accused of victimology and that's a Kobayashi Maru.
Reasonable question and I'll answer this way: Jaybird doesn't believe that institutional indoctrination is the proper prescription for this problem. Nevertheless, Jaybird's resume includes: a tenure as Assistant coach at his HS Alma Mater and a tenure as Head Coach where the job was more mentoring than teaching sports and a tenure as board member and eventually board chair at a decades-old private Montessori school. Jaybird currently is involved additional volunteer activities with youth ages 12-18 who are predominately from a demographic other than his own. Jaybird is father to 3 children. The eldest child has attended the local public school and both parents have been parent field trip volunteers. The other 2 attend private school where both Jaybird and Mrs. Jaybird are parent contributors in time, financial and other material resources as well as instructional assistance. Next school year, the family looks forward to consolidating all 3 children attending the same private schoolhouse.
Why the choice of private school?
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Speak freely in society. Not have to be a PC, Woke, SJW, Progressive, support TRUMP, not have White Guilt (White Privilege), etc. Support Social Engineering through more and more government programs using our Tax Dollars for purposes in which we DISAGREE.
Walk downtown safely in Dem controlled cities. This last week and now, walk around anywhere while white without wondering if you are a target. Speaking of Target, shopping there ... shut down and/or looted by black-dominated thugs.
Make no mistake. The current “Black and Brown People are Victims” scourge in politics, media and culture is diminishing and restricting whites.
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Abe Lincoln offered that post-Civil War. It's called "Liberia."
In 1858, he said,“…I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality.”
...on Aug. 14, 1862, Lincoln invited free Black ministers to the White House to have a conversation. Lincoln did not hesitate to convince them of their inferiority when he candidly said the following: “You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss, but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think your race suffers very greatly, many of them, by living among us, while ours suffers from your presence. In a word, we suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason at least why we should be separated.”
https://atlantablackstar.com/2015/05/05/not-great-emancipator-10-racists-quotes-abraham-lincoln-said-black-people/2/
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Why the choice of private school?
I've had the experience of both public and private schooling as a student and a parent. One offers the opportunity for a tailored, guided curriculum the other is encumbered by too much red tape to evolve quickly enough to meet the needs of the students, parents and/or teachers and administration.
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Walk downtown safely in Dem controlled cities. This last week and now, walk around anywhere while white without wondering if you are a target. Speaking of Target, shopping there ... shut down and/or looted by black-dominated thugs.
Make no mistake. The current “Black and Brown People are Victims” scourge in politics, media and culture is diminishing and restricting whites.
Absolutely. Our culture and society through the Media, Democrat controlled governments, Education, Social Media and now Corporate America (you can get fired if you say something not PC) are putting the squeeze on White People and any non PC, WOKE, SJW thought, or speech.
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More virtue signalling...........and liberal lunacy.
https://disrn.com/news/la-mayor-announces-city-will-cut-100m150m-from-lapd-budget-to-be-reinvested-in-black-communities-and-communities-of-color
Mayor Eric Garcetti announced an enormous transfer of city funds at a press briefing Wednesday, with $100 million to $150 million being stripped from the Los Angeles Police Department's budget and reallocated to "black communities and communities of color."
Calling this an "urgent moment," Garcetti first announced an overall transfer of $250 million from the previously proposed budget to be "reinvested" in communities of color, highlighting "jobs, education, and healing."
L.A. Police Commission President Eileen Decker then announced that $100 million to $150 million of those cuts would come from the police department budget.
"It is time to move our rhetoric towards action to end racism in our city," the mayor said.
L.A. City Council President Nury Martinez on Wednesday then officially introduced the motion, tweeting that it was "to cut funding to the LAPD, as we reset our priorities in the wake of the murder of #GeorgeFloyd & the #BlackLivesMatter call that we all support to end racism. This is just one small step."
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More virtue signalling...........and liberal lunacy.
https://disrn.com/news/la-mayor-announces-city-will-cut-100m150m-from-lapd-budget-to-be-reinvested-in-black-communities-and-communities-of-color
What happens in 5 years when waves of law enforcement officers reach their minimum retirement age and bow out of the LEO business. What will society do when no young people want to join the ranks of law enforcement, in very large part because of the demonization and vile hatred that occurred between 2010-2020?
Society is fucked.
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L.A. Police Commission President Eileen Decker then announced that $100 million to $150 million of those cuts would come from the police department budget.
"It is time to move our rhetoric towards action to end racism in our city," the mayor said.
And how will this transfer of money from police to "The Black community" end racism?
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And how will this transfer of money from police to "The Black community" end racism?
Doesn't matter. Garcetti can say he's "doing something". The Media will love it and say how great it is to give the little Brown natives some $$$. That's how they view Black People. Morons. >:(
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I've had the experience of both public and private schooling as a student and a parent. One offers the opportunity for a tailored, guided curriculum the other is encumbered by too much red tape to evolve quickly enough to meet the needs of the students, parents and/or teachers and administration.
Why not work to get the system changed so it can work, especially for those that cannot send their kids to private school?
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anyone remember this SNL skit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LeJfn_qW0
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And how will this transfer of money from police to "The Black community" end racism?
It's "symbolic"....."virtue signalling".
In reality, that money will flow thru democrat political operatives and be awarded to several wealthy democrat donors who have businesses. In return, they will fund a few minor projects in the community to make it look like they're doing something.
Ever notice that when a community organizer goes into a community, when he leaves he is far wealthier, and those left in the community are still in the same situation, same place.
Odd how that works, huh?
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So now the "fashionable" thing among the democrat hell holes are "defund the police".
Yep, these cities are seriously considering defunding their police force and instituting "community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity".
Aren't you people who live in these blue states and cities so proud of what you keep voting in?
So how long until there is a outright fleeing of thousands of people to the free states?
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I don't need the Police to defend me. I am actually OK with it. Not going to happen due to the $$$ for law enforcement and the control of government.
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Personally, I don't think that there is any question that white privilege exists in a predominately white society. But I wonder if there is a corollary in a predominately black society. Is there still white privilege? Is there black privilege?
I was in a predominately black 7-11 the other day. I definitely felt out of place and like everyone else was watching everything I do, but they were ignoring the people out front selling drugs and making obscene propositions to the passing females. I suppose this is how blacks feel in a predominately white store, except that they are probably somewhat more used to it.
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I once dated a woman who I eventually learned was somewhat racist. (Don’t meet women in bars was my main lesson. Secondary lesson was how not to end a relationship.)
It’s interesting that “Japanese privilege” and “Hindu privilege”, among others, also exist as concepts, as you’ll see by doing web searches for those phrases. It’s interesting to read the conflicting assertions about them.
To repeat, I object to the use of “privilege” for the concepts because what they really amount to is meritocracy among members of the favored group, not favoritism by all for all in that group. I strongly suspect “X privilege” was chosen to undermine the application of meritocracy.
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Why not work to get the system changed so it can work, especially for those that cannot send their kids to private school?
The surest way to lose a war is to fight it on multiple fronts.
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The surest way to lose a war is to fight it on multiple fronts.
The surest way to lose a war is to fixate on one battle and ignore the flanks. You might win the battle but lose the war.
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https://www.unz.com/article/the-manufactured-crisis-of-police-racism/
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https://www.unz.com/article/the-manufactured-crisis-of-police-racism/
But the Democrats have the MEDIA to promote and repeat the LIE over and over so the weak minded losers believe it. So they get away with using a LIE to create really bad public outcry and thus really bad Public Policy to "address" the manufactured, false problem. Nice huh?
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Fast forward to 11:13
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I don't have cable so don't get Fox News, but do see some of their on line content and of course stuff on youtube. I like Greg Gutfeld, Tucker Carlson, and Jesse Waters and that's about it.
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Think we'll hear anything about cultural appropriation for this display of hypocrisy?
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how come only some of them are wearing masks?
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how come only some of them are wearing masks?
That is so last week............
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That is so last week............
just as long as the witched witch of the west keeps wearing one...
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just as long as the witched witch of the west keeps wearing one...
A Saran Wrap mask would work best for her.
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A Saran Wrap mask would work best for her.
Zyklon B would work best for her. With a mask of course.
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Best answer I heard on white privilege. If you say you have white privilege you are basil you saying you are better because you are white. Kind of racist.
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