PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on June 06, 2020, 04:49:17 AM
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A few Black guys trying to intimidate people, motorists and anyone on the sidewalk were not welcome. But, most of the protesters were White "Progressive" New York Commies. They think they have a Right to disrupt. People like this need a lesson form Ma Deuce.
Protesters in New York City took a knee to recognize George Floyd on Friday as thousands took to the streets across the city.
Breitbart News was on the scene in Brooklyn where protesters took a knee. Some protesters gathered in a large circle in the street as others chanted around them.
Other protesters in attendance began directing traffic to clear the area. However, before the protesters took a knee, they held up traffic and said, “We’re gonna stay in the street. It’s a peaceful protest, but that doesn’t mean we don’t disturb the peace. Let’s disrupt this peace. I don’t want to see someone on the f*cking sidewalk.”
Another protester said, “I don’t want to see you on the sidewalk unless you’re a cop, okay? You’ve got no reason to be on the sidewalk.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/05/watch-hundreds-take-knee-george-floyd-brooklyn/
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I find the whole thing to be a straw man argument.
Nobody believes in police violence, including the police. What is presented as police violence is usually a reaction to something that happened before, which required the police to react to. Stop doing the dumb stuff in the first place and everyone gets along easily. 100%, police do not come into a situation and start the violence.
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I find the whole thing to be a straw man argument.
Nobody believes in police violence, including the police. What is presented as police violence is usually a reaction to something that happened before, which required the police to react to. Stop doing the dumb stuff in the first place and everyone gets along easily. 100%, police do not come into a situation and start the violence.
So you're saying that Police don't have quotas? That police aren't a solution looking for a problem? I disagree.
I live in a mixed economic small town (28sq miles land and water). Just north of us is a larger town where the median income is a large leap up. One of my neighbors on a local social media site is calling for MORE POLICE, MORE POLICE. They recently erected 2 speed cameras, which I also opposed (just another way to fleece the public).
A few years ago, the clamors for more police were answered by the building of a new county precinct in the town, but not enough funding to actually station officers there. As a taxpayer, I was livid about the millions spent on the building but the lack of foresight to hire and equip officers to actually work there. Pretty funny and sad, but our politicians are pwn#d by land developers and contractors, but I digress...
When I peeled back my neighbors concerns and need for more police I discover that neighborhood kids are crossing their property line to transit the area. And instead of my neighbor leaving the window and going outside and engaging the kids in meaningful dialogue, he/she remains inside and characterizing them as jail bait just itching at the opportunity to victimize the homeowner who happens to be of Asian descent.
We are not a crime free community (doesn't exist in America), but for goodness sake, the census says that (especially in that town) the vast majority of families are 2 income, married parents, voters...etc EVERYTHING you want in a neighborhood of productive citizen neighbors.
The solution to my neighbor's problem isn't more police. It's common decency to be outside, tending your garden (or whatever you do) and simply say to the kids that they need to take the long way around next time instead of trespassing.
So the county will respond to frivolous complaints to justify a need for an increased budget to staff the precinct. And then they will need to prove the "foresight" of that investment with a return and stats on crimes punished. And our small town mentality will cease to be.
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Maybe parents should teach their children to behave and respect the property of other people.
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When I peeled back my neighbors concerns and need for more police I discover that neighborhood kids are crossing their property line to transit the area. And instead of my neighbor leaving the window and going outside and engaging the kids in meaningful dialogue, he/she remains inside and characterizing them as jail bait just itching at the opportunity to victimize the homeowner who happens to be of Asian descent.
Great in theory but really hard to put into practice. Let's imagine that a group of teenagers (of any race) is cutting through my yard. They are rowdy and full of hormones like teenagers are. You want me to go out and engage them in a meaningful dialogue? "I understand your need to get to where you're going, but please don't cut through my flowers." No way. The best I'd get is ridicule "ok boomer". The worst is a switchblade. Then they'd come back at night and slash my tires. Wonderful in theory, doesn't work in practice. If they could be reasoned with, they wouldn't be cutting through my yard in the first place.
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Cogent and germane. The points she makes are likely the cause of the black vote turning towards Trump, who gets this.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/a-heroine-of-our-time.php
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Great in theory but really hard to put into practice. Let's imagine that a group of teenagers (of any race) is cutting through my yard. They are rowdy and full of hormones like teenagers are. You want me to go out and engage them in a meaningful dialogue? "I understand your need to get to where you're going, but please don't cut through my flowers." No way. The best I'd get is ridicule "ok boomer". The worst is a switchblade. Then they'd come back at night and slash my tires. Wonderful in theory, doesn't work in practice. If they could be reasoned with, they wouldn't be cutting through my yard in the first place.
Unless you've been watching too many 1984 post-apocalyptic movies, it's not hard at all. My observation and experience has been that if spoken to with respect, teenagers respond respectfully including when they're in the wrong. I've been on both sides of that coin- a teenager acting up and an adult speaking to a young person who didn't know me from Adam. On the balance, they come back at you in rebellion if you're a prick about it.
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Unless you've been watching too many 1984 post-apocalyptic movies, it's not hard at all. My observation and experience has been that if spoken to with respect, teenagers respond respectfully including when they're in the wrong. I've been on both sides of that coin- a teenager acting up and an adult speaking to a young person who didn't know me from Adam. On the balance, they come back at you in rebellion if you're a prick about it.
I don’t know if you just woke up after a six month nap, but we are living in the book 1984.
Freedom of speech is verboten. Opinions contrary to that of the mob will get you fired or shunned. Violent rioters are allowed to exercise their tyranny, while churches are fined or pastors jailed for having more than 10 people in attendance. Police are arresting barbers for cutting hair, while the political leaders are walking arm in arm with BLM protestors. Overnight terms like All Lives Matter, which is a holy belief, are deemed racist and evil.
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I don’t know if you just woke up after a six month nap, but we are living in the book 1984.
Freedom of speech is verboten. Opinions contrary to that of the mob will get you fired or shunned. Violent rioters are allowed to exercise their tyranny, while churches are fined or pastors jailed for having more than 10 people in attendance. Police are arresting barbers for cutting hair, while the political leaders are walking arm in arm with BLM protestors. Overnight terms like All Lives Matter, which is a holy belief, are deemed racist and evil.
Bizzaro World. If this keeps up we are going to see a revolution.
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If you can find it, watch tonight’s Tucker Carlson (6/8/20)
He spent the entire show on this, and was dead on about what is going on.
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If you can find it, watch tonight’s Tucker Carlson (6/8/20)
He spent the entire show on this, and was dead on about what is going on.
Saw it. Literally overnight massive societal changes.
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Saw it. Literally overnight massive societal changes.
Yep.
But this didn’t happen overnight. This has been in the planning stages for years, and now was the time to unleash it.
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Yep.
But this didn’t happen overnight. This has been in the planning stages for years, and now was the time to unleash it.
Planning yes, implementation no. They've implemented it almost overnight. We now have people afraid to speak, but not only that if you DON'T speak their sick script of Racist. Woke, SJW pro Black Lives Matter garbage you are condemned as racist and the enemy. So if you say and do NOTHING you are GUILTY. I have never seen anything like this in my life. Well maybe in the USSR, Cuba, China, Cambodia, N. Korea, Vietnam, Iran..............
Twitter and Social Media are a huge problem in addition to the traditional Media. They are promoting and enabling this crap.
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Planning yes, implementation no. They've implemented it almost overnight. We now have people afraid to speak, but not only that if you DON'T speak their sick script of Racist. Woke, SJW pro Black Lives Matter garbage you are condemned as racist and the enemy. So if you say and do NOTHING you are GUILTY. I have never seen anything like this in my life. Well maybe in the USSR, Cuba, China, Cambodia, N. Korea, Vietnam, Iran..............
Twitter and Social Media are a huge problem in addition to the traditional Media. They are promoting and enabling this crap.
I'll disagree with you.
Covert operations don't happen overnight, not on this scale.
The groundwork for all of this has been quietly laid in the last few years. What's even more alarming is our intelligence community gave no warning. None.
Was it because they are incompetent? Hardly. Is it because so much of our government is involved? You betcha. Just look at how different parts of government are folding and cooperating with the terrorist. Yes, they are domestic terrorist.
We are currently in a fight to keep this country. If the typical apathy takes over, we're done. 2020 will decide if we remain a constitutional republic or we dwindle into a socialist communistic hellhole.
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I'll disagree with you.
Covert operations don't happen overnight, not on this scale.
The groundwork for all of this has been quietly laid in the last few years. What's even more alarming is our intelligence community gave no warning. None.
Was it because they are incompetent? Hardly. Is it because so much of our government is involved? You betcha. Just look at how different parts of government are folding and cooperating with the terrorist. Yes, they are domestic terrorist.
We are currently in a fight to keep this country. If the typical apathy takes over, we're done. 2020 will decide if we remain a constitutional republic or we dwindle into a socialist communistic hellhole.
I agree, but planning does not mean implementation. I am shocked at how quickly some people (at least according to the Media) have ROLLED OVER for ANTI WHITE RACISM.
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What's SJW?
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What's SJW?
Social Justice Warrior, aka PC, Woke, Racist (anti White) COMMUNIST.
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I agree, but planning does not mean implementation. I am shocked at how quickly some people (at least according to the Media) have ROLLED OVER for ANTI WHITE RACISM.
That was built into planning. All covert actions are carefully planned and implemented if they expect to succeed. This was all well choreographed and executed. This is why none of this was "grass roots" or home grown.
We are being attacked within from the outside.
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Social Justice Warrior, aka PC, Woke, Racist (anti White) COMMUNIST.
Seems non-sequitous to me
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Seems non-sequitous to me
How?
This may help. This is from 2016, four years ago, but is still valid.
https://observer.com/2016/02/the-totalitarian-doctrine-of-social-justice-warriors/
The modern social justice movement, or the new “political correctness,” vaulted into the spotlight last year. Student protests swept across campuses with demands often focused on purging thoughtcrime—leading to heated debates on whether this movement is a dangerous pseudo-progressive authoritarianism or a long-overdue effort to achieve justice for all. A year-in-review piece in The Daily Dot in late December proclaimed 2015 “the year of the social justice warrior.”
The Daily Dot author, graduate student and political columnist Michael Rosa, hailed this trend and urged liberals to “embrace the term.” Yet the accomplishments he invoked are, as the social justice crowd likes to say, problematic. His Exhibit A, the legalization of same-sex marriage, actually had very little to do with the current social justice movement; it was the result of two decades of very different, pragmatic activism that focused on a clear goal—the legal right to marry—and stressed equality, not gay identity. And #BlackLivesMatter, also a movement with a specific focus—police violence toward African-Americans—has been arguably hurt, not helped, by PC dogma that suppresses discussion of thorny issues such as black-on-black crime and attacks “insensitive” dissenting speech (Amherst protesters demanded disciplinary action against students who had put up “All Lives Matter” posters).
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No, I don't believe police have quotas.
If they believe the problem in the police departments is racism, then they should do what we did in education and employment. Before they can respond to a police call in a black neighborhood, they have to respond to a proportional number of police calls in a white neighborhood, and vice versa. Therefore at the end of the year, the proportion of police calls addressing black and whites will be the same as the proportion of the population, thus proving that cops aren't racist.
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Social Justice Warrior, aka PC, Woke, Racist (anti White) COMMUNIST.
I always thought it meant Single Jewish Woman, like in hookup ads.
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I always thought it meant Single Jewish Woman, like in hookup ads.
I never used hook up ads. YMMV. ;D