PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Dweyant on June 28, 2020, 05:58:59 AM
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/06/23/media_ignores_90_coronavirus_death_collapse_in_country_515128.html?fbclid=IwAR1LQrK6V0M5JODELQUI8SNKvC_X41S2ZX_UGRkwlk6BozaB4802KcJj5hw
Amazing how we aren’t hearing about this in the media. 90% drop in death rate since April, yet the sky is falling....
-Dan
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/06/23/media_ignores_90_coronavirus_death_collapse_in_country_515128.html?fbclid=IwAR1LQrK6V0M5JODELQUI8SNKvC_X41S2ZX_UGRkwlk6BozaB4802KcJj5hw
Amazing how we aren’t hearing about this in the media. 90% drop in death rate since April, yet the sky is falling....
-Dan
The virus plandemic worked beyond their wildest dreams. Now they don't want to let go, and are concocting the second phase. In various places around the country they are screaming how hospitals are being over run, thousands upon thousands of "new cases" daily, flashing "red alerts" on television and radio, and of course demanding new lock downs.
Just listen to them. "In 14 days there will be massive deaths". "The hospitals are over run!" "Young people are getting it at alarming rates!"
Some areas are already making plans to cancel school for next year. Businesses are being told the "new normal" will be less than 50% occupancy, and that mandatory mask wearing will also be the new normal.
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The virus plandemic worked beyond their wildest dreams. Now they don't want to let go, and are concocting the second phase. In various places around the country they are screaming how hospitals are being over run, thousands upon thousands of "new cases" daily, flashing "red alerts" on television and radio, and of course demanding new lock downs.
Just listen to them. "In 14 days there will be massive deaths". "The hospitals are over run!" "Young people are getting it at alarming rates!"
Some areas are already making plans to cancel school for next year. Businesses are being told the "new normal" will be less than 50% occupancy, and that mandatory mask wearing will also be the new normal.
Virus Scam-Demic + Fake Systemic Racism (both largely Media lies) = Trump Losing. At least that is what they are trying to do and hope. They may be right.
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don't you know that cases are skyrocketing in states that haven't had many cases
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Friend emailed me this morning. Where he lives the new liberal talking point is “The government is covering up all the deaths”.
So now we have all these people dying, and somehow the government is covering it up.
Unreal.
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Friend emailed me this morning. Where he lives the new liberal talking point is “The government is covering up all the deaths”.
So now we have all these people dying, and somehow the government is covering it up.
Unreal.
The "government" is incapable of covering up anything unless the press is complicit. The only part of the government that might want to cover up deaths would be the Republicans, but if they tried, the WAPO would be all over it.
The Dems on the other hand want to publicize as many deaths as possible. This gives them more ammo come election time in the swing states. The press would be thrilled to publicize those deaths, IF THEY WERE HAPPENING to any great extent. But they aren't.
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WTH happened a couple weeks ago in MN?
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WTH happened a couple weeks ago in MN?
I believed they opened the bars on June 1. Then about 2 weeks later bar-goers (largely 20 somethings) started getting sick.
That's also (late May, Early june) that the riots were occuring in force. If they'd publish that, there may be fewer riots.
I'm seeing a lot about the rise in cases, but I'm still seeing very little about the death rate in the news. I guess a reduced death rate isn't scary enough to talk about.
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WTH happened a couple weeks ago in MN?
Bars and Restaurant started opening, Protest still going on every few days.
Biggest change is they no longer require you to have to be sick or show signs to get tested. You can get tested for any reason. They were telling everyone that went to protest to get tested. You have to inflate the numbers somehow.
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don't forget to take into account the amount of testing that occurs.
3 June was the first time MN had more than 10,000 tests performed in a single day.
https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/situation.html#testing1
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WTH happened a couple weeks ago in MN?
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/06/29/latest-on-covid19-in-mn
You missed the important part
Minnesota is now at its lowest level of hospitalization utilization since May 1.
Scroll down on link and look at map and tell me why we treat the complete state the same?
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I'm a firm believer that the area under the curve remains a constant. Flatting the curve just extends the length of the curve. Eventually most everyone will have to be exposed to the virus before this all ends.
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I'm a firm believer that the area under the curve remains a constant. Flatting the curve just extends the length of the curve. Eventually most everyone will have to be exposed to the virus before this all ends.
A couple of things that could decrease the area under the curve: (1) the virus mutating relatively quickly into a less virulent version and (2) developing better treamtents and vaccines.
Of course, we shouldn't bet the farm that the virus becomes less virulent any time soon.
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I'm a firm believer that the area under the curve remains a constant. Flatting the curve just extends the length of the curve. Eventually most everyone will have to be exposed to the virus before this all ends.
Exactly right. Plus Total Deaths (mortality rate) will not change either. The entire flattening the curve argument was because the "health experts", Democrats and Media said it would overwhelm the healthcare system and more people would die. That was a lie from the beginning and in fact hospitals were largely empty and not due to social distancing and the lock down, but that other procedures were not being done (elective and non critical) and people were scared to go near a hospital for any reason.
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The media has been hyping the increase of cases here in Georgia, meanwhile the deaths continue to decrease.
BTW, the MN graph was more intended as sarcasm than anything since, I believe, it shows the results of the George Floyd protests.
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I'm a firm believer that the area under the curve remains a constant. Flatting the curve just extends the length of the curve. Eventually most everyone will have to be exposed to the virus before this all ends.
I do hope that the volume under the curve decreases. The whole point of flattening the curve was not to keep people from being sick, but to keep emergency care and ICUs from being overwhelmed. We did that. But now the goalposts have moved, thanks to the MSM and democrats.
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I do hope that the volume under the curve decreases. The whole point of flattening the curve was not to keep people from being sick, but to keep emergency care and ICUs from being overwhelmed. We did that. But now the goalposts have moved, thanks to the MSM and democrats.
No, I get it, flattening the curve just spreads the infection out over time.
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Guess which on made bigger news.
Coronavirus (WI): No COVID-19 Deaths Reported For 3 Straight Days In Wisconsin
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/06/29/coronavirus-wi-no-covid-19-deaths-reported-for-3-straight-days-in-wisconsin/
Wisconsin COVID-19 Positive Case Rate Still Rising, Now At 7.1 Percent
https://www.wpr.org/wisconsin-covid-19-positive-case-rate-still-rising-now-7-1-percent
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https://themichiganstar.com/2020/06/29/dr-simone-gold-commentary-we-do-not-consent/
Dr. Simone Gold Commentary: We Do Not Consent
by Dr. Simone Gold
Author’s note: The below is the Op-Ed that was accepted to USAToday on June 24. They deleted key phrases/paragraphs for their print paper and then they refused to print it at all online.
It is clear to me as a physician-lawyer that the disinformation about both Covid-19 and the Constitution has caused us to turn a medical issue into a legal crisis.
The scientific usefulness of a mask has been so aggressively overstated, and the foundational importance of the Constitution has been so aggressively understated, that we have normalized people screaming obscenities at each other while hiking.
The Covid virus was supposed to be contained in the kind of lab where people wear astronaut suits and go through triple sealed doors. It is a con of massive proportion to assert that now, having escaped those environs, a bandana will magically do the trick.
After all, size matters.
The pore size of cloth face coverings range from ~ 20-100 microns. The Covid virus is 200-1000x smaller than that, at 0.1 microns. Putting up a chain link fence will not keep out a mosquito. Even the most esteemed medical journals admit their purpose is to calm anxiety. “Expanded masking protocols’ greatest contribution may be to reduce the transmission of anxiety …”
Of course, by knowledge or common sense observation, most Americans already know that masking everyone is superstition. But unlike privately carrying a lucky charm, mandating facial coverings requires the consent of the governed.
Many cultures mandate clothing that appears totally irrational to outsiders. Never have those cultures pretended that there is a scientific basis for their clothing requirement. Their leaders rule, and their citizens accept, that their choice of clothing is due to religious or cultural preference.
Not wearing a mask is not mere “personal choice” like deciding between a head covering or a t-shirt. It is a flashpoint for being a free human being who has consented to be governed but has not consented to be ruled. We do not consent to a masked America, because that is a fundamental change in American society, culture, norms, and rights.
People who are apathetic toward their own liberty cannot eliminate Constitutional rights for those who are not. This is not the first (or last) time that people who believe in superstition are screaming the loudest. The Constitution exists precisely to protect all people during times of mass hysteria.
The mask has become the most visible symbol of #socialconditioning to Americans determined to preserve individual freedom. Thus far most Americans have continued to give their consent to be governed. But you are trying our patience.
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Simone Gold, MD, JD, FABEM, is a board certified emergency physician. She graduated from Chicago Medical School before attending Stanford University Law School to earn her Juris Doctorate degree. She completed her residency in Emergency Medicine at Stony Brook University Hospital in New York. Dr. Gold worked in Washington D.C. for the Surgeon General, as well as for the Chairman of the Labor & Human Resources Committee. She works as an emergency physician on the frontlines whether or not there is a pandemic. Her clinical work serves all Americans: from urban-inner city, to suburban, to the IHS. Her legal work has focused on conflicts between hospitals and insurers. She writes on a number of policy issues relating to law and medicine. She always leads with the facts.
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“People who are apathetic toward their own liberty can not eliminate Constitutional rights for those who are not.”
Best statement I have heard in a long, long time.
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https://themichiganstar.com/2020/06/29/dr-simone-gold-commentary-we-do-not-consent/ (https://themichiganstar.com/2020/06/29/dr-simone-gold-commentary-we-do-not-consent/)
Dr. Simone Gold Commentary: We Do Not Consent
Fucking A
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https://themichiganstar.com/2020/06/29/dr-simone-gold-commentary-we-do-not-consent/
Dr. Simone Gold Commentary: We Do Not Consent
It's misleading to think only of the filter size vs the size of the virus. Also important is the size of aerosol particles.
Having said that, there certainly are plenty of studies that indicate the minimal protection homemade masks provide.
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Fucking A
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^^^^He was also Captain Nixon in "Band of Brothers". He and Captain Speirs were my favorite characters.