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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on July 02, 2020, 07:52:48 AM

Title: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Anthony on July 02, 2020, 07:52:48 AM
I didn't seen this one coming.  I guess "they" still feel threatened by her.  I though the message with Epstein would have been enough.  Hmmmmm.....  I believe she is a British subject.  She also had to know they'd eventually arrest her.  Why stay in the U.S.?  Why not take your money and go somewhere they can not extradite you? 

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Ghislaine Maxwell, a longtime associate of the late Jeffrey Epstein, was arrested in New Hampshire Thursday, according to the FBI.

Maxwell, who lived for years with Epstein and was his frequent travel companion on trips around the world, was taken into custody around 8:30 a.m., said FBI spokesman Marty Feely.

An indictment made public Thursday said Maxwell “assisted, facilitated and contributed to Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom, and ultimately abuse ” girls under age 18.  She has long faced allegations of procuring underage girls for him, earning the nickname of Epstein’s “madam.” Reuters reported in December that the FBI was investigating Maxwell.

Maxwell was accused by many women of recruiting them to give Epstein massages, during which they were pressured into sex. Those accusations, until now, never resulted in criminal charges.

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2020/07/02/report-ghislaine-maxwell-longtime-associate-of-jeffrey-epstein-arrested/
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Lucifer on July 02, 2020, 08:10:31 AM
She will commit suicide..........anyone want to bet?
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Username on July 02, 2020, 08:49:51 AM
She will commit suicide..........anyone want to bet?
That's difficult to say.  She was more on the supply side and not on the customer side.  I don't know how much exposure she had to the "elite" customers.  But to be on the safe side, yeah she will be suicided.
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Lucifer on July 02, 2020, 08:56:39 AM
That's difficult to say.  She was more on the supply side and not on the customer side.  I don't know how much exposure she had to the "elite" customers.  But to be on the safe side, yeah she will be suicided.

She's being arrested to shut her up.  She could take down several high profile people.  If the government was actually interested in what she knew, she would be placed in protected custody and kept in a secret location.   
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Anthony on July 02, 2020, 09:44:40 AM
She's being arrested to shut her up.  She could take down several high profile people.  If the government was actually interested in what she knew, she would be placed in protected custody and kept in a secret location.   

I doubt she will ever talk.  Epstein's murder sent a very clear message to her and anyone else that would dare talk.  In fact I am more surprised she was arrested and now put in more of a position to have to talk.  If I were her, I would have disappeared after Epstein was arrested, and definitely gone underground after his murder.
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Number7 on July 02, 2020, 12:46:39 PM
I wonder if hilary has complete Giselle’s suicide note for her yet...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/not-good-may-reports-came-bill-clinton-dated-ghislaine-maxwell-now-arrest-next/
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: bflynn on July 02, 2020, 01:48:39 PM
The only question is how she is going to kill herself.

Hanging in a jail cell with the cameras off would be too suspicious.  I'm betting on two shots to the back of the head.  That's a Clinton Classic.
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Anthony on July 02, 2020, 03:10:40 PM
With Rupert Murdoch.  Hmmm, doesn't he own something?

(https://kangaroocourtofaustralia.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/rupert-murdoch-and-ghislaine-maxwell-2.jpg)

Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Number7 on July 02, 2020, 06:19:06 PM
The only question is how she is going to kill herself.

Hanging in a jail cell with the cameras off would be too suspicious.  I'm betting on two shots to the back of the head.  That's a Clinton Classic.

IIRC, hilary's pedophile husband covered up the murder of two 15 year old boys who were decapitated for accidentally stumbling onto his drug running operation in Mena, Arkansas.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

IIRC The coroner ruled the two boys died of natural causes, then the lies and coverups and more murders began.

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2017/nov/26/judge-to-look-at-files-in-2-boys-1987-d/
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Username on July 03, 2020, 07:52:33 AM
Perfect.
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Anthony on July 03, 2020, 11:03:58 AM
OK, I may not be that knowledgeable about these things, but can someone explain to me how a woman can "rape" another woman? 

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EXCLUSIVE — A woman who claims Ghislaine Maxwell raped her dozens of times – beginning when she was just 14 years old – says she is willing to take the stand and testify against Jeffrey Epstein’s ex-girlfriend.

In an exclusive interview with Fox News, Jane Doe, who wishes to protect her identity, said Maxwell sexually abused her beginning in 1991 in Florida. She said the abuse continued until she was 16.

Maxwell was arrested Thursday on federal charges for facilitating and participating in sexual abuse acts with minors,

“She did rape me. I would say it’s more than 20 or 30 times,” she said. “She is just as evil as Jeffrey Epstein … She is a rapist.”

Jane Doe claims years of sexual abuse came to an end only after she became pregnant with Jeffrey Epstein’s baby. At age 16, she had an abortion.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ghislaine-maxwell-rape-testify-evil-epstein
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Lucifer on July 03, 2020, 11:12:51 AM
OK, I may not be that knowledgeable about these things, but can someone explain to me how a woman can "rape" another woman? 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ghislaine-maxwell-rape-testify-evil-epstein

(https://kinkazoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/anal-dildos-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 03, 2020, 11:15:27 AM
OK, I may not be that knowledgeable about these things, but can someone explain to me how a woman can "rape" another woman? 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ghislaine-maxwell-rape-testify-evil-epstein

From https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/blog/updated-definition-rape (https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/blog/updated-definition-rape):

“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Anthony on July 03, 2020, 11:35:45 AM
So, I guess that is consistent with this claim.

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In a third photo, which was shot minutes earlier, Maxwell is sitting in the same chair wearing jeans and a bra and has a dog on her lap. According to one source, Maxwell brought along the Stars and Stripes bikini and suggested wearing it, telling those present how she 'put dildos at each place setting' at a dinner party she hosted for young girls

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7361453/Ghislaine-Maxwell-posed-raunchy-pictures-height-friendship-Epstein.html

This could get interesting.

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The British socialite and former girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein is expected to fully cooperate with federal authorities. On Friday, officials announced Ghislaine Maxwell will be naming names and cooperating with the FBI in its ongoing investigation.

This came after Maxwell was arrested earlier this week on sex trafficking charges.

According to officials, “the world’s most powerful” people, including Prince Andrew, are very worried about what she might reveal. The prince has refused to testify in the past over his association with Epstein and Maxwell.

“So, you know, I’m just so tired of the excuses,” said attorney Gloria Allred. “The victims want the truth, they want the transparency, they want him to tell law enforcement what he knows.”

Meanwhile, Epstein’s former boss Steven Hoffenberg has stated that Maxwell knows everything and will totally cooperate
.

https://www.oann.com/ghislaine-maxwell-expected-to-fully-cooperate-with-fbi-give-names/
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Ron22 on July 04, 2020, 12:00:43 PM
Surprise they show a picture with Trump not the Clintons


Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Little Joe on July 05, 2020, 05:14:26 AM
Surprise they show a picture with Trump not the Clintons


Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
Now why didn't that surprise me?
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Anthony on July 05, 2020, 05:16:54 AM
Trump did have Epstein at Maralago once.  That's where all the pictures are from.  However, he later distanced himself from Epstein due to the rumors of young girls.   Clinton did NOT, yet all they show are the pictures of Trump.
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: nddons on July 06, 2020, 01:00:20 PM
Trump did have Epstein at Maralago once.  That's where all the pictures are from.  However, he later distanced himself from Epstein due to the rumors of young girls.   Clinton did NOT, yet all they show are the pictures of Trump.
Trump BANNED Epstein from Maralago.
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Ron22 on July 09, 2020, 05:51:02 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/09/feds-feared-epstein-confidante-might-kill-herself-are-having-her-wear-paper-clothing.html

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Feds feared Epstein confidante Ghislaine Maxwell might kill herself, made her wear paper clothing

Maybe I should of posted this in the joke thread.
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Lucifer on July 09, 2020, 05:54:49 PM
Ghislaine Maxwell did not kill herself.


(just getting a jump start on this)
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Username on February 19, 2022, 11:49:40 AM
Yet another of the Epstein cohort did not live to testify.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/modeling-agent-close-jeffrey-epstein-dead-french-jail

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A modeling agent who was close to disgraced U.S. financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead Saturday in his French jail cell, authorities in Paris say.

Jean-Luc Brunel was being held in an investigation into the alleged rape and trafficking of minors for sexual exploitation, according to the Paris prosecutor’s office.

Victims of the alleged abuse described shock and dismay that the agent will never face trial. They described his death as a double blow after Epstein killed himself in 2019 in a Manhattan jail while awaiting sex-trafficking charges.

Paris police are investigating Brunel's death, the prosecutor’s office said. The circumstances of his death were not made public, and Brunel’s lawyers did not comment on it.
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Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Rush on February 19, 2022, 12:50:55 PM
Yet another of the Epstein cohort did not live to testify.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/modeling-agent-close-jeffrey-epstein-dead-french-jail

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A modeling agent who was close to disgraced U.S. financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead Saturday in his French jail cell, authorities in Paris say.

Jean-Luc Brunel was being held in an investigation into the alleged rape and trafficking of minors for sexual exploitation, according to the Paris prosecutor’s office.

Victims of the alleged abuse described shock and dismay that the agent will never face trial. They described his death as a double blow after Epstein killed himself in 2019 in a Manhattan jail while awaiting sex-trafficking charges.

Paris police are investigating Brunel's death, the prosecutor’s office said. The circumstances of his death were not made public, and Brunel’s lawyers did not comment on it.

I’d like to know more details about this trafficking. Were they kidnapping 12 and 13 year old girls against their will and locking them up and forcing them to have sex with threats? Or were they luring 16 and 17 year olds with money or promises of modeling careers or introductions to famous rich people, and they came willingly, if naively?  And now decades later see opportunities for large settlements?  Are they calling consensual sex “rape” just because it’s statutory if they were under 18?  I don’t see these scenarios equivalent.  Not excusing luring girls of any age with false promises, but at the same time I have a problem calling consensual sex with a 17 1/2 year old a crime, when six months later it’s legal.

Don’t get me wrong, Epstein and his ilk are pigs. I don’t know much about what exactly he was doing.  Was it all voluntarily transactional and only a problem because they were underage?  Because there’s a lot of underage girls that would do it for money or the chance to hob nob with famous people, and be wined and dined around rich trappings.

Or were they physically separating these girls from their homes, for example, by flying them away in a private jet for “one night of partying, then I’ll fly you home” and then not flying them home and preventing them from leaving (because it was an island) and keeping them there against their will? 
Title: Re: Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell arrested
Post by: Username on February 20, 2022, 08:06:42 AM
I believe that it's Option B.  16 and 17 year old girls were lured with various promises and then moved from massaging to sex incrementally.  I believe that the girls also felt they had no choice.  But I really don't know for sure.  The few that know aren't talking or are dead.

I agree with you about the statutory rape laws.  17.9 is illegal, 18.0 is legal.  I believe that some states have a rule that it's not statutory if the participants consent and they are within 3 years of each other.  It's not right that a guy gets a sex offender rating if he does what he's been doing with his girlfriend for years and he turns 18 a week before she does.  While I'm on the subject, there should be degrees of sex offending.  Right now there's one label for all and stigma for all.