Post by: Lucifer on October 10, 2020, 04:33:21 PM
I believe this (among others) is the nail in the coffin of the Biden campaign:
https://twitter.com/thejcoop/status/1314929793524215808
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/10/10/joe-biden-tells-local-reporter-his-viewers-dont-deserve-answer-to-court-packing-question-and-theyre-probably-republicans/
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Joe Biden has been getting plenty of exercise lately by continuously dodging questions about whether he’d support packing the Supreme Court. A couple days ago Biden said that voters would know his opinion of court-packing “when the election is over” (the ol’ “pass it to find out what’s in it approach).
Up next, a local reporter in Las Vegas asked Biden the same question, and the Democrat nominee’s answer was pretty amazing:
Biden's refusal to answer is indicative. He knows if he says no, he loses the radical left. If he says yes, he loses the moderate and undecided.
Reasonable people understand how devastating packing the Supreme Court would be.
Kamala's dismal debate failure, plus her string of lies is hurting the ticket, not helping it.
Then throw in Pelosi's 25th amendment "commission", which is squarely aimed at Biden, and people are getting even more suspicious.
And it doesn't help to have an unhinged Keith Olberman making this statement:
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“Trump can be and must be expunged. The hate he has triggered, the pandora’s box he has opened, they will not be so easily destroyed. So, let us brace ourselves. The task is two fold: The terrorist Trump must be defeated, must be destroyed, must be devoured at the ballot box and then he and his enablers and his supporters and his collaborators, and the Mike Lees, and the William Barrs and Sean Hannitys and the Mike Pences and the Rudy Guilianis and the Kyle Rittenhouses, and the Amy Coney Barretts must be prosecuted and convicted and removed from our society while we try to rebuild it and to rebuild the world Trump has nearly destroyed by turning it over to a virus. Remember it, even as we dream of a return to reality and safety and the country for which our forefathers died. That the fight is not just to win an election but to win it by enough to chase, at least for a moment, Trump and the MAGAts off the stage and then try to clean up what they left. Remember it even though to remember it, means remembering that the fight does not end November 3rd, but in many ways, will only begin that day.”
Post by: Lucifer on October 10, 2020, 05:31:48 PM
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To date, the Trump-Pence reelection campaign has focused on exposing former Vice President Joe Biden’s five decades of self-dealing and dereliction of his duty to the American people. Among the lowlights, Biden has enriched his family at the expense of America’s prosperity and security. Biden was complicit in weaponizing the police, surveillance, intelligence, and taxing powers of the federal government against the Obama Administration’s political opponents. Biden’s refusal to denounce BLM and Antifa rioters and his choice, instead, to downplay the violence is the height of irresponsibility and cowardice.
Yet even at this late date during the 2020 presidential election, the Trump-Pence ticket can and should add four more glaring faults to the mix—let’s call them the four horsemen of the Biden-Harris apocalypse—that will resonate with Americans, notably with suburban voters.
Biden will cut taxes for the rich and raise your taxes to pay for it.
By vowing to repeal the Trump tax reform and relief law, Biden not only will raise taxes on working families; he will also cut taxes for rich blue state residents who under that legislation lost their state and local tax (SALT) deduction. The SALT deduction constitutes the rest of America’s taxpayers subsidizing the high taxes in blue states. Little wonder Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) has said reinstating this tax cut for his rich residents—and donors—is a key priority should the Democrats regain the Senate.
Biden should not be allowed to “build back better” by bailing out blue-state billionaires at your expense. Further, though vowing also to raise taxes on those making over $400,000, Biden has yet to announce by how much. In the end, there is a very good chance—indeed, a near certainty—his blue-state buddies will net out a gain.
Biden Refuses to rebuke the Democratic governors who killed tens of thousands of senior citizens.
The same Joe Biden who opposed stopping Chinese residents from entering the United States and spreading COVID-19 when President Trump issued his travel ban in the early stages of the pandemic, now claims he wants to make America safe from the virus and protect the “vulnerable” among us. Yet Biden has refused to denounce the Democratic governors, such as New York’s Andrew Cuomo, Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer, and Pennsylvania’s Tom Wolf who ordered the return of COVID-19 positive residents into the (then) healthy senior citizen populations of long-term care facilities.
Worse, when the science showed their policies were killing people in the tens of thousands, they lied—and the cover up continues today (much as it does for Obamagate). Biden’s silence is an affront to the families of those killed by these Democrats’ criminal incompetence and inhuman callousness. In fact, the difference between President Trump’s real-time response and Biden’s plagiarized plan is that Sleepy Joe’s is a day late and a dollar short. In his deliberate ignorance and silence, by omission it is Biden who is lying about the virus. (And, by the way, can someone point out that the over 200,000 Americans whose deaths have been attributed to COVID-19 did not all die from COVID-19 simply because they died while positive for the virus? Those making this claim are, for their own selfish gain, playing politics with the pandemic and setting back the progress of research, including the race for a vaccine. So much for the “science is real” crowd.)
Biden supported bribing Iran while they were putting bounties on and directing the killing of Americans.
Biden was vice president during an administration that sent planeloads of money and removed billions of dollars in sanctions from the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism—Iran—even as that nation implemented its “death to America” agenda by funding and directing the killing of American military and civilian personnel in Iraq. How anyone—especially former military brass, so-called “national security experts,” and diplomats—can support Biden, who supported this criminal malfeasance, is beyond understanding except to say that it is despicable. Of course, these are the same soulless skunks who carped when the president justly eliminated the terrorist General Qasem Soleimani, the Iranian regime’s orchestrator of these killings of Americans.
Biden-Harris will raise the cost of living and lower the standard of living for every American family.
And, just so his running mate Senator Kamala Harris doesn’t feel slighted, the Trump-Pence campaign should consider noting that her contribution, the Democratic ticket’s “lethargy policy”—including the green new deal, etc.—will not just destroy jobs in America’s energy sector; it will raise the cost and lower the standard of living for every American. One of the greatest boons of the Trump economy remains America’s energy self-sufficiency and the prosperity this brings to American families.
Should Biden-Harris be elected, and the cost of energy then skyrockets, that will mean less money for Americans to put food on the table, pay for college and health care, and all the other rising costs that will occur due to the Democrats’ radical agenda. For the sake of hard working Americans, the “Californication of America” must be stopped.
This review of the facts surrounding Vice-President Biden’s and Senator Kamala Harris’ past and present policy positions is drawn completely from the public record and is demonstrably true. And, unlike the Democrats’ tendentious, vacuous campaign, the four horsemen of the apocalypse they intend to visit upon voters are completely transparent once seen. The public needs the opportunity to consider them.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 10, 2020, 07:04:32 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 11, 2020, 06:39:42 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/joe-biden-going-accept-outcome-election-without-questions-video/
Post by: Anthony on October 11, 2020, 08:01:25 AM
Post by: Lucifer on October 20, 2020, 05:41:49 AM
Chief Justice Roberts just gave the state of Pennsylvania to Biden.
Post by: Number7 on October 20, 2020, 06:38:50 AM
ICYMI,
Chief Justice Roberts just gave the state of Pennsylvania to Biden.
johnny roberts is george w bushs' revenge.
What a piece of shit.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 20, 2020, 07:46:18 AM
ICYMI,
Chief Justice Roberts just gave the state of Pennsylvania to Biden.
Yup, I guess I missed it.
How?
Post by: Lucifer on October 20, 2020, 07:54:17 AM
Yup, I guess I missed it.
How?
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-supreme-court-allows-3-day-extension-for-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots/
Post by: Username on October 20, 2020, 08:05:58 AM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-supreme-court-allows-3-day-extension-for-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots/I'm not quite seeing it. The ballots still have to be postmarked by the time polls close on November 3rd but counting them can continue for three days after. I don't see how it would be possible to count all the mail in ballots fast enough. Here in Wisconsin there's a law that says you can't START counting mail in ballots until the polls close. Could be the same thing there. Other than democrats there mailing in more ballots, I don't see the handing it to them problem. But I'm also exceptionally dense today.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 20, 2020, 08:07:46 AM
Yup, I guess I missed it.4-4 Ruling let's the Appellate court ruling stand. Illustrates exactly why we need Amy Coney Barrett confirmed.
How?
Post by: Lucifer on October 20, 2020, 08:09:53 AM
I'm not quite seeing it. The ballots still have to be postmarked by the time polls close on November 3rd but counting them can continue for three days after. I don't see how it would be possible to count all the mail in ballots fast enough. Here in Wisconsin there's a law that says you can't START counting mail in ballots until the polls close. Could be the same thing there. Other than democrats there mailing in more ballots, I don't see the handing it to them problem. But I'm also exceptionally dense today.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-supreme-court-allows-3-day-extension-for-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots/
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Ballots that don’t have clear postmarks will also be counted under the ruling.
Prepare to see boxes and boxes of "found" ballots.
Post by: Username on October 20, 2020, 08:38:15 AM
Ballots that don’t have clear postmarks will also be counted under the ruling.Oh shit. Months and months of smudged postmarks instead of hanging chads. This is going to be a load of fun.
Prepare to see boxes and boxes of "found" ballots.
Post by: nddons on October 20, 2020, 11:36:22 AM
I'm not quite seeing it. The ballots still have to be postmarked by the time polls close on November 3rd but counting them can continue for three days after. I don't see how it would be possible to count all the mail in ballots fast enough. Here in Wisconsin there's a law that says you can't START counting mail in ballots until the polls close. Could be the same thing there. Other than democrats there mailing in more ballots, I don't see the handing it to them problem. But I'm also exceptionally dense today.I thought here in Wisconsin they couldn’t open the mail in ballots until the polls OPENED, not closed, but I could be wrong.
I seem to recall seeing poll workers feeding in handfuls of ballots during the day when the voting traffic is light.
Post by: Username on October 20, 2020, 11:40:19 AM
I thought here in Wisconsin they couldn’t open the mail in ballots until the polls OPENED, not closed, but I could be wrong.That makes more sense. Thanks!
I seem to recall seeing poll workers feeding in handfuls of ballots during the day when the voting traffic is light.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 20, 2020, 04:00:03 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-supreme-court-allows-3-day-extension-for-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballots/
"Democrats in the state had sought the extension because members of their party are requesting mail-in ballots by nearly a 3-to-1 ratio over GOP voters, according to the AP. With the extension, ballots postmarked by the time polls close on Nov. 3 can be counted by 5 p.m. on Nov. 6."
That democrats are requesting so many mail-in ballots is something that makes me go: hmmmmmmm....what could go wrong?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 20, 2020, 06:56:11 PM
Post by: Anthony on October 21, 2020, 10:20:22 AM
The Trafalger Group guy says he is most concerned about PA because of the opportunity for voter fraud.
The PA Supreme Court, which is Democrat controlled, upheld Far Left Democrat Gov Tom Wolf's order that votes can be mailed in after the Nov 3 election date. They can be post marked after Nov 3rd. >:(
So how can you control if the mail in ballots are legitimate or not???
Post by: bflynn on October 21, 2020, 12:22:59 PM
The PA Supreme Court, which is Democrat controlled, upheld Far Left Democrat Gov Tom Wolf's order that votes can be mailed in after the Nov 3 election date. They can be post marked after Nov 3rd. >:(
So how can you control if the mail in ballots are legitimate or not???
Cool. I'm going to send a couple dozen a week or two later and then demand to know if they're being counted.
Post by: Rush on October 21, 2020, 02:30:35 PM
Post by: nddons on October 21, 2020, 04:25:06 PM
Are mail in ballots even notarized or anything?In some states like Wisconsin they are supposed to be witnessed, and the witness must sign it. Unfortunately people who “bundle” votes have signed as witnesses, not knowing who the fuck the voter is.
Also, the ever convenient Covid nonsense has the democrats in Wisconsin asking the Wisconsin Election Commission to WAIVE the witness requirement, you know, for “safety.”
Post by: Rush on October 21, 2020, 04:30:55 PM
In some states like Wisconsin they are supposed to be witnessed, and the witness must sign it. Unfortunately people who “bundle” votes have signed as witnesses, not knowing who the fuck the voter is.
Also, the ever convenient Covid nonsense has the democrats in Wisconsin asking the Wisconsin Election Commission to WAIVE the witness requirement, you know, for “safety.”
This is insanity. When the ballots come in I suppose they compare to the registration lists and that prevents someone from voting twice but how many dead people aren’t yet removed from voter rolls and how many voters will try to vote and find someone else already took their vote? If no ID is required, all someone needs to do is get names and addresses from the phone book, right?
Post by: Username on October 22, 2020, 05:42:27 AM
This is insanity. When the ballots come in I suppose they compare to the registration lists and that prevents someone from voting twice but how many dead people aren’t yet removed from voter rolls and how many voters will try to vote and find someone else already took their vote? If no ID is required, all someone needs to do is get names and addresses from the phone book, right?In Wisconsin you need to have the name and date of birth to request an absentee ballot. You also have to be registered which requires a photo ID. A photo ID is also required if you vote in person. If you know someone's birthday and they are registered you could request an absentee ballot for them be sent to you. Far from perfect, but the birthday requirement does provide a little security.
My wife who is disabled will get an absentee ballot sent to her automatically each voting event. I have to request one each time.
Post by: Little Joe on October 22, 2020, 06:36:42 AM
In Wisconsin you need to have the name and date of birth to request an absentee ballot. You also have to be registered which requires a photo ID. A photo ID is also required if you vote in person. If you know someone's birthday and they are registered you could request an absentee ballot for them be sent to you. Far from perfect, but the birthday requirement does provide a little security.An itsy bitsy teensy weensy bit of security.
My wife who is disabled will get an absentee ballot sent to her automatically each voting event. I have to request one each time.
How many people announce theirs and others birthday on Facebook alone?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 22, 2020, 07:22:00 AM
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How many people announce theirs and others birthday on Facebook alone?
not me
Post by: Little Joe on October 22, 2020, 08:28:04 AM
not meOk, you proved my point. Only ONE person doesn't do that.
(Actually, two because I don't either).
Post by: nddons on October 22, 2020, 08:51:12 AM
This is insanity. When the ballots come in I suppose they compare to the registration lists and that prevents someone from voting twice but how many dead people aren’t yet removed from voter rolls and how many voters will try to vote and find someone else already took their vote? If no ID is required, all someone needs to do is get names and addresses from the phone book, right?It’s worse than that. At least in Wisconsin you can buy voter lists from the county or municipality that shows the frequency with which someone has voted in the past. It’s public record.
Madness.
Post by: Rush on October 22, 2020, 09:59:18 AM
An itsy bitsy teensy weensy bit of security.
How many people announce theirs and others birthday on Facebook alone?
When such sites demand my birthday I give then January 1, 1920 or some such.
Post by: Rush on October 22, 2020, 10:14:52 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 22, 2020, 10:29:58 AM
If Biden wins, I suspect, we will see some kind of edicts telling us that we can't go to the grocery store and park next to another car nor can we have more than, say, 10% capacity in any facility. Any spectator sport will get shutdown. Movie theaters will be out of business, etc.
Post by: Lucifer on October 22, 2020, 10:40:48 AM
Having seen several of the Biden "events" and yesterdays drive-in rally with Obama, I get a picture of what life would be like with a President Biden. If you've seen those events, the indoor ones show maybe six people spaced well apart. At the drive-in rally the cars were spaced out in every other parking space.
If Biden wins, I suspect, we will see some kind of edicts telling us that we can't go to the grocery store and park next to another car nor can we have more than, say, 10% capacity in any facility. Any spectator sport will get shutdown. Movie theaters will be out of business, etc.
Correct.
You are witnessing the "free trial version" of things to come, also known as "the new normal".
Expect to see climate change become a "national emergency" and even be called a pandemic. Automobile use will be curtailed, fossil fuel to be even more regulated. Industries the radicals don't like will be shut down or regulated out of existence.
Essential business and workers will take on a whole new meaning. Travel will become highly regulated and government controlled. Boats, RV's and airplanes, etc? Expect high taxes for the "privilege".
All one has to do is look at California and New York for a glimpse of what's to come.
Post by: Rush on October 22, 2020, 10:54:36 AM
Correct.
You are witnessing the "free trial version" of things to come, also known as "the new normal".
Expect to see climate change become a "national emergency" and even be called a pandemic. Automobile use will be curtailed, fossil fuel to be even more regulated. Industries the radicals don't like will be shut down or regulated out of existence.
Essential business and workers will take on a whole new meaning. Travel will become highly regulated and government controlled. Boats, RV's and airplanes, etc? Expect high taxes for the "privilege".
All one has to do is look at California and New York for a glimpse of what's to come.
The plant my husband works at just gave them an award for getting the units up so fast after the hurricane, apparently that one plant saved the grid around here from having rolling blackouts.
So the new normal is going to be to shut down that plant and have rolling blackouts indefinitely.
Post by: Username on October 22, 2020, 11:02:00 AM
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/climate-change-energy-use-electricity-report_n_5f90e38dc5b62333b241e6e4
And we all survive on Soylent Green because there will be no more farmers or ranchers.
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Optimistic visions of America’s climate future look dramatically different from life today. The population abandons the suburbs for dense, efficient urban housing. Personal cars give way to bikes and green public transit. Those who can make the sacrifice sweat out the summer heat, rationing the air conditioning for those who most need it.
The alternative, so goes this line of thinking, is apocalyptic chaos.
Post by: Lucifer on October 22, 2020, 01:15:58 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 23, 2020, 05:18:49 AM
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2020, 03:21:25 PM
Post by: Rush on October 24, 2020, 04:07:51 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/hilarious-moment-from-kansas-senate-debate/
That link led to this link which really nails the whole cause of our situation today:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/10/city-killing-america-daniel-greenfield/
Post by: Lucifer on October 24, 2020, 04:36:22 PM
Post by: Rush on October 24, 2020, 06:23:18 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2020, 05:56:04 AM
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Election Day is almost here, and the time has come for closing arguments. For the Left, four years of agitation have culminated in this proposal: join the revolution, or we’ll destroy you.
You have to admire the simplicity of it.
Understand, removing Trump from power is only the first step on the road to true democracy. His presidency must also go down as a cancerous aberration never to be repeated, and he and his supporters must be consigned to the outer darkness, forever.
We have seen this peculiar pitch crystallize as the ruling class works desperately to crush Trump and crown Biden’s running mate, Senator Kamala Harris (D-Calif.). It was obvious from the start that Biden’s campaign was little more than a front for the establishment and that its success, if ever it came, would be a sleight of hand. We have now seen that effort reach its logical conclusion in a parade of open contempt for ordinary Americans and our most basic principles and institutions.
We have watched a presidential candidate lie to the people, with the help of the press, about an imaginary “white supremacist” threat and “mostly peaceful” riots. We have seen him tell Americans that we do not “deserve” to know whether he will pack the Supreme Court. And most alarmingly of all, we have seen “the news” and Big Tech engage in mass political censorship to help him win.
What would people like this do to America? It doesn’t take much imagination to get the general idea.
Under their rule, the things we find controversial today no longer would be controversial. All of “the science” would be settled—by them. There would be a short menu of policies and opinions, catered by activists and “experts,” that everyone would follow on pain of persecution. Everyone would accept that America is “racist” and support whatever redress that may require.
Moreover, anyone arbitrarily declared a spreader of “misinformation” or “hate speech” would be punished, and that would be that. Those targeted would be compelled to grovel, and the liberal mob would cheer their humiliation. We’ve already seen plenty of this, with a spring of lockdowns, a summer of “antiracism,” and the readiness with which seemingly moderate people went along with all of it. Most liberals still trust the media, and they won’t hesitate to have Big Tech do their dirty work for them in the name of “property rights.”
Yes, they will pack the Supreme Court, too, as they were always going to do the moment they lost control. None of this will be hard for them to justify, in fact they’ll do it all gladly. They’re on the right side of History, after all. They’re the good guys.
But there are still too many bad guys around, too many “QAnon cultists,” too many conspiracy theorists who don’t believe in science, too many who refuse to apologize for the way they were born. These people—unfortunately, as they see it—have a say in our system. What to do?
Well, why not just blow the whole thing up? All of that hokey rhetoric about the “consent of the governed” and “free speech,” do we really need that? The Constitution is getting to be pretty old by now. Weren’t the framers a bunch of racists anyway?
It’s not enough to enforce a revolutionary ideology from above, however. It’s much more poetic to create an entirely new people—a people more fit to inherit this better, more democratic America.
Their sense of rapture finds its fullest expression in the anticipation of a permanent new majority, whose arrival is to be welcomed as a comeuppance against that part of the country refusing to yield to their idea of “progress.” Their excitement at the prospect of this is palpable.
To the most fervent advocates of diversity politics, Kamala Harris has an intoxicating, demagogic appeal: she typifies the ambition of the more “diverse” country created by decades of unrestricted migration, the narcissism-as-virtue minted by feminism, and the deep and powerful loathing of Middle America that pulses through the bloodstream of our elite.
The way must be prepared by dismantling whatever is left of our system that allows dissent and deliberation, removing any capacity for “the past” to issue a veto to “the future.”
People who previous generations might have dismissed as unfit to rule, people lacking in merit but full of pride and ruthlessness, people like Harris, could then become unstoppable through the tyranny of arithmetic. A new class of petty despots would be seen as an asset by an imperious and hateful mob seeking spoils and revenge against that part of the population that still feels an attachment to the old country, which would be powerless to resist.
Once unleashed, the passions of this mob would be difficult to contain. Any unpleasantness that may occur along the way would be marked down as “progress.”
Where does this end? Reparations? A Truth and Reconciliation Commission for the last four years? The last 400?
None of this is set in stone, but this election may be our last chance to save what’s left of the country our Founders left us. Let’s make it count.
Post by: Lucifer on October 25, 2020, 10:22:53 AM
Post by: Username on October 26, 2020, 07:13:37 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8878991/Joe-Biden-appears-confuse-Trump-Bush-calls-president-George-virtual-rally.html
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Biden was last night addressing a virtual concert when he said: 'Four more years of George, er, George, er, he - we're going to find ourselves in a position where, if Trump gets elected, we're going to be in a different world.'
The 77-year-old appeared to receive a prompt from his wife Jill who was sitting beside him, muttering 'Trump' under her breath.
Post by: Lucifer on October 26, 2020, 07:32:07 AM
Post by: Username on October 26, 2020, 07:53:03 AM
Post by: Username on October 27, 2020, 09:05:54 AM
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“We have 17 battleground states across the country,” Biden said, “we’re not losing focus on securing, uh, uh, the many pathways to 270 [electoral votes], but my wife, Jill, as you know, and Doug Emhoff, uh, Kamala’s wife, were there. Kamala will be back later this week.”
Post by: Rush on October 27, 2020, 09:18:57 AM
"Brain Freeze" Biden once again:
/facepalm
Post by: Username on October 27, 2020, 10:59:00 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 27, 2020, 12:27:56 PM
Friend in Finland just pointed this out: "Kamala" is Finnish for "horrible".
But, how is it pronounced?
Post by: Lucifer on October 27, 2020, 12:47:11 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 27, 2020, 12:48:29 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 28, 2020, 05:11:50 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 28, 2020, 05:37:09 AM
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2020, 05:37:46 AM
Great interview by Tucker last night with Bobulinski, too bad the people that need to see it won't. :'(
Little wonder why the CCP wants to see a Biden presidency. Joe is in their pocket and compromised, and will do whatever they demand. Sanctions will be dropped, trade will go back entirely to their favor, our manufacturing will continue to be outsourced to mainland China.
Taiwan will be taken without interference. The South China Sea will be taken with no intervention from the west.
The MIC wants a Biden presidency in the worse way. Joe can gin up some more middle east wars that will result in billions of US dollars going to contractors, and his family can get in the middle of some of those lucrative contracts.
Joe has been a proud member of the swamp for 5 decades.
Post by: Little Joe on October 28, 2020, 05:40:05 AM
Will Biden wins this with his hide-away strategy while we flood the market with TV ads?yes
:'( :( >:(
Unless every Trump supporter gets out to vote by Nov 3.
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2020, 05:41:12 AM
Where do we think things stand as of this morning? Will Biden wins this with his hide-away strategy while we flood the market with TV ads?
Nope.
And here's the main reason why:
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb102720dAPR20201027044505.jpg)
People want encouragement, they want to get out from under this phony scamdemic, and they want prosperity.
Joe offers continuing scamdemic, plans to raise taxes, socialized medicine and overseeing massive job losses.
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2020, 05:52:48 AM
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You hear it every day. Someone says, “I just want the election to be over,” hoping out loud that things will somehow “return to normal” once the 2020 vote ends. But it won’t. The left already has plans to ensure that.
By “return to normal,” of course, we refer to an America not so riven by politics that families and neighbors no longer talk to each other because of the deep political divide. An America where people again become friendly and human, politics recede in importance, the economy and schools reopen, and suspicion of others’ political motives fade into the deep background.
Sounds great, the fabled tolerant America of yore. But, sorry, whether Donald Trump wins or loses, the left has other plans.
And “normal” isn’t part of them. In fact, even if Trump wins in a landslide and Republicans win both chambers of Congress on his coattails, the left already has plans for “Trump II: The Disruption.”
No, this isn’t some dystopic fantasy. After four years of non-stop interference with Trump’s presidency by the Democrats, we know it’s a hard reality.
Here’s more evidence: A group called “Shutdown DC” vows street action, regardless of the outcome:
We can’t anticipate exactly how Trump and his enablers will try to attack democracy (although we have been gaming out a number of different scenarios), but we know that the stakes are too high to sit on the sidelines and wait. That’s why we’re making plans to be in the streets before the polls even close, ready to adapt and respond to whatever comes our way.
Get that? “In the streets before the polls even close,” means mass intimidation and instilling public fear. The left’s imagined bogeyman? A Trump “coup,” which, of course, in their fevered imaginations means any Trump victory at all.
“Trump has shown that he will stop at nothing to maintain his grip on power. Trump will not leave office without mass mobilization and direct action,” the group says. Expect riots.
The plans are very specific, sketching out activities even by date. Using online organization tools, the idea is to forge loose “affinity groups” that will be free to take more “high risk action.”
As the Federalist’s Joy Pullmann, who dug up all this, noted: “What kinds of actions these might be are stated in a ‘Strategic framework for action following the 2020 election’ that sketches out their plans for rioting and attacking American institutions and life until Joe Biden is installed as president. It claims if Trump declares victory that will mark ‘the start of the coup.’ “
In other words, a Trump victory will be a “coup.” So much for your right to vote.
William L. Gensert in the American Thinker gives a colorful, but sadly accurate, preview of the chaos to come:
After the polls close, they will conduct a mass mobilization in the streets to prevent Trump from declaring victory and to prosecute ‘will of the people’ riots as a supposed organic reaction to Trump having stolen the election under the auspices of Vladimir Putin and white supremacists. Their ululations of ‘COUP’ will be shrill and frequent — projection lives loudly within the left.
Their deployment will be open-ended as Twitter and Facebook shut down all opposition on their platforms and Google tweaks algorithms to give only results approved by the rebellion.
Riots. No matter what.
Lest you think this is will happen at the fringes, think again. Even the supposed “mainstream” Democrats have plans to make Republicans miserable, especially if the GOP wins.
Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, now working a gig in — where else? — far-left academia, proposes a re-education program if Biden is elected.
“When this nightmare is over, we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. It would erase Trump’s lies, comfort those who have been harmed by his hatefulness, and name every official, politician, executive, and media mogul whose greed and cowardice enabled this catastrophe,” Reich tweeted on Oct. 17.
Understand: Such panels have been used around the world in at least 42 countries, mostly by leftist regimes, to humiliate and devalue the political opposition by accusing them of “crimes” and forcing them to admit their “offenses” publicly.
“You may recall that after Barack Obama became president, some Democrats wanted prosecutions of his predecessor and Bush administration officials for alleged ‘war crimes,’ the CIA’s rendition programs, etc.,” noted Jim Geraghty, writing in the National Review.
And Reich’s not alone in his hunger for political retribution. MSNBC’s Chris Hayes actually beat him to the punch, suggesting a “truth and reconciliation” commission earlier this month.
“The most humane and reasonable way to deal with all these people, if we survive this, is some kind of truth and reconciliation commission,” commissar Hayes tweeted.
Once a few high-level politicians admit to sinning, such as opposing the New Green Deal or Medicare for All, how many average people will choose to just shut up and accept what’s shoved down their throats? That would mark the de facto end of free speech, free religion and any number of other sacred American rights.
Of course, if you were to suggest doing the same thing to Democrats and their deep-state allies, who clearly have been lying volubly and profiting off their “public service,” you’d be called a “fascist,” “Nazi” or worse. It shows just how far left that party and its media allies have drifted.
All this is what the left has in store for you, America. Witch hunts and judicial revenge against political foes. Dissent becomes a crime.
Regardless, it’s clear the left’s plans don’t include peace of mind for America’s voters on Nov. 4, the day after the election. Or “bringing the country together.” Rather, they see unending turmoil, political anger and rage, street protests, riots, litigation, and, if they win, retribution for those who dare to disagree.
The Claremont Institute and Texas Public Policy Foundation recently gamed the various outcomes for the election and concluded two big things: One, we’ll not know the outcome “due to millions of uncounted mail-in ballots in six battleground states.”
Two, we’ll likely see “intense court fights” and litigation all the way up to Jan. 6. It might even end up in the Supreme Court, amid a backdrop of riots and violent threats.
What’s at stake? Our friends at the Wall Street Journal put it this way:
If Democrats win up and down the ballot, progressives will control the commanding heights of nearly every American elite institution: Congress, the administrative state, Hollywood and the arts, the universities, nonprofits, Silicon Valley and nearly all of the media.
Is that a healthy republic? By any reasonable measure, the answer is no.
If you’re now among the “undecided,” you might want to rethink that. In this election more than perhaps any other in history, your rights as a free American are at stake.
Post by: Rush on October 28, 2020, 07:44:12 AM
https://issuesinsights.com/2020/10/27/lefts-post-election-agenda-more-riots-truth-commissions-other-punishment-for-their-foes-that-means-you/
There is only one correct response to the riots.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 28, 2020, 08:15:15 AM
There is only one correct response to the riots.
engagement?
no wait, that's not it.
praise?
no wait, that's not it.
coddling?
no wait, that's not it.
....
Post by: jb1842 on October 28, 2020, 08:15:37 AM
There is only one correct response to the riots.
Amazing the brainwashing the left is doing to our country. They will be in a world of hurt when they move their bullshit out of the big cities.
Post by: jb1842 on October 28, 2020, 08:16:47 AM
engagement?
no wait, that's not it.
praise?
no wait, that's not it.
coddling?
no wait, that's not it.
....
Engagement with head shots at 300 yards.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 28, 2020, 08:19:26 AM
Engagement with head shots at 300 yards.
pretty long lens
Post by: Username on October 28, 2020, 08:24:38 AM
Engagement with head shots at 300 yards.180 grains of attitude adjustment. Agreed about 300 yards... gotta social distance don't you know.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 28, 2020, 08:27:50 AM
Post by: Username on October 28, 2020, 08:35:59 AM
Put a couple of snipers on a rooftop with orders that is anyone breaks a window ad enters a building, take them out. Won't take but one or two to get the message out.I go back and forth on the silencer. Good to hear the bang, or not? All hypothetical, of course.
Post by: jb1842 on October 28, 2020, 09:06:21 AM
pretty long lens
Nah. Shot expert in the Marine Corps with iron sights back in the day and longest we shot is 500 yards. I do have a couple of 12 power scopes on my rifles, but rarely have them zoomed in that high.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 28, 2020, 09:11:48 AM
Nah. Shot expert in the Marine Corps with iron sights back in the day and longest we shot is 500 yards. I do have a couple of 12 power scopes on my rifles, but rarely have them zoomed in that high.
I understand, 300 yards is still short-range. I've shot iron sights on the service rifle at 200 and 300, but these old eyes really benefit from the 4.5x scope.
I was just trying (vainly) to steer people away for the concept of shooting people, especially at such distances. Very hard to claim self-defense on what the uninformed would call "long range"
Post by: jb1842 on October 28, 2020, 09:18:55 AM
I understand, 300 yards is still short-range. I've shot iron sights on the service rifle at 200 and 300, but these old eyes really benefit from the 4.5x scope.
I was just trying (vainly) to steer people away for the concept of shooting people, especially at such distances. Very hard to claim self-defense on what the uninformed would call "long range"
I get you. I have a Marlin 44 mag I'm using a peep sight on for deer this year. All dialed in at 100 yards, and that is starting to strain my eyes at that distance.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 28, 2020, 10:06:28 AM
I get you. I have a Marlin 44 mag I'm using a peep sight on for deer this year. All dialed in at 100 yards, and that is starting to strain my eyes at that distance.
For me, it ain't the distance, it's being able to focus on the front sight.
I do have the magic glass in the rear sight of my A2 upper (microsight), but the scope is soooooo much easier. Besides, I do a lot of benchrest shooting and I'm quite comfortable with scopes.
Post by: Rush on October 28, 2020, 10:56:15 AM
Post by: jb1842 on October 28, 2020, 11:09:11 AM
For me, it ain't the distance, it's being able to focus on the front sight.
I do have the magic glass in the rear sight of my A2 upper (microsight), but the scope is soooooo much easier. Besides, I do a lot of benchrest shooting and I'm quite comfortable with scopes.
One problem I think is my club makes you shoot inside a shoothouse. There are no lights in the shoot house, so I think that makes it harder to see the sights.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 28, 2020, 11:44:57 AM
One problem I think is my club makes you shoot inside a shoothouse. There are no lights in the shoot house, so I think that makes it harder to see the sights.
hmmm, certainly direct sunlight isn't good. Remember that people use charcoal to darken the front post. Or maybe that is just a match thing (no pun).
Post by: jb1842 on October 28, 2020, 12:37:23 PM
hmmm, certainly direct sunlight isn't good. Remember that people use charcoal to darken the front post. Or maybe that is just a match thing (no pun).
It's just so dark it's hard to focus on front sight. Especially looking through a peep sight. I remember smudge pots behind the line in the Marine Corps.
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2020, 12:44:25 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2020, 03:52:52 PM
Where are Biden’s children?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 28, 2020, 05:16:59 PM
So President Trump’s children are out campaigning for their father.In rehab, therapy, or hiding.
Where are Biden’s children?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 28, 2020, 06:42:39 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 28, 2020, 07:07:25 PM
Where is Hunter? Why isn't he out disavowing the whole laptop deal?
“It’s a Russian* disinformation smear!”
* not the Russians that have been paying off the Biden’s.
Post by: Number7 on October 28, 2020, 07:07:58 PM
So President Trump’s children are out campaigning for their father.
Where are Biden’s children?
Working off their debts to the communist chinese regime.
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 28, 2020, 10:28:13 PM
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2020, 07:18:28 AM
Saw the https://www.predictit.org/ (https://www.predictit.org/) site mentioned by John Stossel in the video below. Am just slightly tempted to wager a small amount. Not really into gambling, though.
Me neither and I’m tempted too. But I’m a bit anxious that this video is more negative than Steve Turley. I so want to believe Turley is right. And I love Stossel to death.
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2020, 03:15:53 PM
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As questions loom about the Biden family’s deep connections to the Chinese Communist Party, news comes that the Biden Center for Diplomacy & Global Engagement at the University of Pennsylvania has received $22 million in donations over six years from anonymous Chinese donors.
With just days to go before one of the most critical elections in modern times, requests by the National Legal & Policy Center (NLPC) to the University of Pennsylvania and the US Department of Education to release the names of those donors have been denied.
The NLPC filed a complaint with the Department of Education citing the donations because federal law requires universities to publicly disclose any donations over $250,000. The NLPC said that despite this federal disclosure requirement the Department of Education will not compel the Biden Center to disclose the donor list.
“The University of Pennsylvania and the Penn Biden Center are particularly vulnerable to China government influences due to the large amounts of China donations and contracts,” the complaint reads.
Paul Kamenar, NLPC’s attorney, sounded the alarm in questioning why the University of Pennsylvania isn’t being transparent about the donations and why the Department of Education would let them get away with keeping this information from the American people.
“Why aren’t you releasing this information so we can see who these Chinese sources are and how much money is being funneled to the Biden Center?” Kamenar asked. “You have to scratch your head and say, ‘What’s going on here?’”
According to the financial documents associated with the complaint filed with the Department of Education, money streamed into the university after the Penn-Biden Center opened. In May of 2018, a $14.5 million anonymous donation was received from China.
Once Joe Biden announced he was running for President of the United States, more money flowed into the university’s coffers.
It is unclear just how much money went directly to the Penn-Biden Center.
Tuesday, Tony Bobulinksi, a former business associate of the Bidens, went on the record to explain the Biden influence enterprise and why he believes the Bidens – and specifically Joe Biden – have been compromised by the Communist Chinese.
Bobulinksi, in an appearance on Tucker Carlson Tonight, said he believes a “President Biden” would be compromised – or vulnerable to control – by the Communist Chinese citing questionable financial transactions.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 29, 2020, 04:48:35 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 30, 2020, 08:54:06 AM
Post by: Rush on October 30, 2020, 10:17:22 AM
Post by: nddons on October 30, 2020, 10:50:56 AM
Trump just called in to Rush. He’s talking about great poll numbers coming in.That was from a couple weeks ago when Rush had Trump in for two hours. It’s a replay. Rush was live for an hour and 15 minutes and then had to leave.
Post by: Rush on October 30, 2020, 12:14:42 PM
That was from a couple weeks ago when Rush had Trump in for two hours. It’s a replay. Rush was live for an hour and 15 minutes and then had to leave.
Well poo I missed that.
Post by: nddons on October 30, 2020, 03:50:49 PM
Well poo I missed that.Two minute suspension for foul language.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 30, 2020, 06:09:40 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 30, 2020, 06:58:40 PM
Absolutely no talk from the Democrats about the impeachment.
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 05:36:30 AM
“As a first order of business, Joe Biden and I are about to work to get rid of that tax cut", Kamala Harris said.
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 06:01:27 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 31, 2020, 06:07:53 AM
She has been around gropin' joe too much... (in at least two aspects...)
Post by: Rush on October 31, 2020, 06:15:53 AM
Yesterday in Texas:
“As a first order of business, Joe Biden and I are about to work to get rid of that tax cut", Kamala Harris said.
Are the Democrats trying to lose this election?
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 06:29:23 AM
Are the Democrats trying to lose this election?
Everything they have done defies election conventional wisdom.
They paint a dark bleak world ahead, and end of times. They try to convince people that they in fact didn't receive a tax cut, only the "rich" did. They are openly telling people how they will eliminate their jobs. They are openly embracing rioting, and with no shame backing their hate groups BLM and ANTIFA. They have even gone as far with threats to vote Biden "or else".
They are openly laying the groundwork for a one party rule government.
And amazingly they are trying to sell the covid scamdemic as a positive, by promising more lock downs and continued masking for another year, or more.
Should we be surprised? Actually, no.
What we are seeing is the leftist progressive radicals control of what use to be the democrat party. Fear is the tool of radicals. "Conform or else!"
And when it collapses, they will even go more radical. We are indeed living in a defining moment of our history.
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 07:22:22 AM
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 07:26:34 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 31, 2020, 08:43:35 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1322239388324032512 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1322239388324032512)
Censored.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 31, 2020, 08:44:45 AM
Censored.
huh?
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 08:57:14 AM
Censored.
Just tried it, still working
Post by: Rush on October 31, 2020, 09:06:58 AM
Just tried it, still working
Worked for me too. Try clearing cookies?
Post by: Number7 on October 31, 2020, 12:55:27 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1322239388324032512
Every time pedo joe opens his senile mouth, I think, ‘is this Really the best the Democrats (communists) can do???
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 31, 2020, 03:19:29 PM
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The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, (https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=3-USC-80204913-1227756099&term_occur=999&term_src=title:3:chapter:1:section:1) on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.Does this not seem straight forward?
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 03:25:13 PM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/1Does this not seem straight forward?
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/the-electoral-college.aspx
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The Electoral College in 2020
The following is a summary of how the Electoral College will work in the 2020 presidential election:
Spring and Summer 2020: Nomination of Electors. The political parties in each state nominate their electors. Parties and states have different ways of going about this, but a party's presidential electors are generally loyal or consistent party members. The parties want to be sure they can rely on their electors to cast their votes for the party's nominee for president.
Nov. 3, 2020: Election Day, when voters in each state will select their presidential electors. The names of electors are not on the ballot in most states. Rather, when a voter casts a vote for a presidential candidate, s/he is also casting a vote for the electors already selected by the party of that candidate. If a majority of voters in a state vote for the Republican candidate for president, the Republican slate of electors is elected. If a majority vote for the Democratic candidate, the Democratic slate of electors is chosen.
Dec. 8, 2020: Deadline for Resolving Election Disputes. All state recounts and court contests over presidential election results must be completed by this date. (3 U.S.C. § 5). For the majority of states the date of certification is the same as for all contests, but in eight states there is a deadline that either directly references 3 USC §5 or uses similar language, requiring that disputes surrounding the selection of presidential electors be resolved in time to meet the “safe harbor” deadline: Indiana, Iowa, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia. For detailed information on state post-election processes, please visit this page.
Dec. 14, 2020: Meeting of the Electors. The electors meet in each state and cast their ballots for president and vice president. Each elector votes on his or her own ballot and signs it. The ballots are immediately transmitted to various people: one copy goes to the president of the U.S. Senate (who is also the vice president of the United States); this is the copy that will be officially counted later. Other copies go to the state's secretary of state, the National Archives and Records Administration, and the presiding judge in the district where the electors meet (this serves as a backup copy that would replace the official copy sent to the president of the Senate if it is lost or destroyed).
Dec. 23, 2020: Deadline for Receipt of Ballots. The electors' ballots from all states must be received by the president of the Senate by this date. There is no penalty for missing this deadline.
Jan. 6, 2021: Counting of the Electoral Ballots. The U.S. Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes.
Jan. 20, 2021: Inauguration Day. The president-elect becomes the president of the United States.
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 31, 2020, 03:28:47 PM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/1Does this not seem straight forward?
Yes, but it is not the only applicable statute:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/2 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/2)
In fact this is the whole section dealing with presidential elections:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/chapter-1 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/chapter-1)
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 05:37:54 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 05:42:55 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 31, 2020, 06:38:38 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 01, 2020, 07:25:42 AM
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Gingrich: ‘Left Is Going To Be Terribly Shocked”
“He has a better likelihood than he did at this stage in 2016 when he was clearly behind and closing rapidly,” Gingrich said. “The people I trust the most, the pollsters that have been the most accurate over the last 5 or 6 years who seem to understand the dynamics of the age of Trump.”
“I saw today the first electoral college map that made sense to me and it showed Trump at 326 electoral votes plus,” Gingrich said. “I think that is probably about right. I think the left is going to be terribly shocked.”
“I actually think, Sean, it comes down to something which is psychological, not ideological,” Gingrich said. “In the end, as you watched these 2 candidates campaigning, I think it’s coming down to sort of a bunny rabbit hiding in a basement protected by the news media and a bear who is wandering around on the stage courageously without fear.”
“If you think the world is dangerous, whether the dangers are riots in Philadelphia or the dangers are the Chinese communists, you probably want a bear that is strong enough to defend you and not a bunny rabbit that has to be protected by the news media,” he said.
“I think every day that Biden hides and Trump goes out and campaigns, the psychological message being driven to the American people is really deeper than just ideology or partisanship,” Gingrich said. “It says one guy has the guts, the willingness, the toughness to actually be out here, taking on things including Covid. The other guy is hiding, frightened, hoping the news media will save him because he can’t possibly save himself.”
“And I think that sinks in,” he continued. “And I think that’s why you are seeing in virtually every poll I trust we’re seeing a steady drift towards Trump and away from the undecided and away from sort of leaning towards Biden but not sold.”
“My personal bet is it will lead to a surprising majority for Trump,” Gingrich concluded.
Post by: Username on November 01, 2020, 07:40:44 AM
Post by: bflynn on November 01, 2020, 09:15:48 AM
Post by: Username on November 01, 2020, 09:17:28 AM
It doesn’t matter. Biden is way ahead in the polls and they won’t be THAT wrong.I expect that the polls will be as accurate now as they were in 2016 when Hillary was way ahead.
Post by: Rush on November 01, 2020, 09:55:00 AM
Even though the overall predictit.org result for the election is 66 to 39 in favor of Biden, when you plug the states in to the EC numbers, and you consider the Trafalgar poll saying Trump will take Michigan, Arizona, Florida AND Pennsylvania, Trump is gonna win hands down. I can only speculate the difference is because those who are gambling on states are more analytical and informed and those gambling on the the whole election are going by most other polls, which bombed in 2016 of course.
Post by: Lucifer on November 01, 2020, 02:40:14 PM
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/trump-derangement-in-overdrive.php
Post by: Lucifer on November 01, 2020, 02:41:49 PM
If the dims are so confident their “big guy” is going to win, why are they planning riots??? ???
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 01, 2020, 03:28:21 PM
Soooooooo.........
If the dims are so confident their “big guy” is going to win, why are they planning riots??? ???
The election results are likely to take days or possibly weeks to be determined, so plenty of time to riot. Even if Biden is declared the winner Tuesday night there would be good reason to riot since rioting provides a justification for a Biden or Harris administration to accede to whatever demands their self-proclaimed spokespersons make.
Post by: Rush on November 01, 2020, 03:37:58 PM
Predicts he will win 326 EVs because:
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According to Democracy Institute/Sunday Express poll, Trump leads in all the states he won in 2016, and is poised to gain 20 additional Electoral College votes in three states Hillary Clinton won in 2016: Minnesota (10 Electoral College votes), Nevada (six Electoral College votes), and New Hampshire (four electoral college votes.)
Also predicting he will win the popular but only by 1% which is within margin of error.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 01, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
It doesn’t matter. Biden is way ahead in the polls and they won’t be THAT wrong.
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Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 01, 2020, 07:41:42 PM
Yes, but it is not the only applicable statute:I must be missing something, I still read that the first Tuesday after the 1st of November is election day, not one day after, not three days after, not a week after.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/2 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/2)
In fact this is the whole section dealing with presidential elections:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/chapter-1 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/chapter-1)
Post by: Lucifer on November 01, 2020, 08:30:26 PM
I must be missing something, I still read that the first Tuesday after the 1st of November is election day, not one day after, not three days after, not a week after.
You are correct.
But remember, each state elects the electors, and each state has their election laws.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 02, 2020, 05:33:37 AM
You are correct.
But remember, each state elects the electors, and each state has their election laws.
That can supersede Federal code?
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2020, 05:57:18 AM
That can supersede Federal code?
Each state is sovereign. Each state can determine their election laws as long as they meet the deadlines set forth by federal law.
The problem we are seeing right now on the state level is they are trying to change laws via the executive and judicial branches and not through the legislative branches. This is why the court challenges are taking place.
Take a look at 3 US Code 2
Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.
So the state knows it won't make a choice on the day prescribed. But look at the second part of that sentence. It says the legislature may then determine the appointment.
There's the problem. These states are trying to do this on executive order or judicial activism.
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2020, 05:58:10 AM
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1322963321994289154
Post by: Username on November 02, 2020, 07:46:43 AM
So now Kamala is using communism to make her closing argument?Yep. Equality of outcome no matter what.
Post by: Rush on November 02, 2020, 08:09:45 AM
So now Kamala is using communism to make her closing argument?
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1322963321994289154
Note the premise is “giving” in any case. By government to people. (Money government takes from others.) Equality is “giving” the same amount and she says that’s not good enough.
Wait, no. Equality is simply removing discriminatory obstacles. Giving people something, whether equal amounts or not, is the government taking from someone and redistributing it. That’s economic collectivism any way you slice it. It’s the foundation of the left, so taken for granted that she has redefined what “equality” actually means.
What a dangerous thing she is. Her definition of “equity” simply brings us back to INequality by putting obstacles in front of a different group.
Post by: nddons on November 02, 2020, 09:04:30 AM
So now Kamala is using communism to make her closing argument?Nice touch with the birds chirping. However, the sound man should have reported the sound of Venezuelans being shot and run over by military vehicles for trying to get food to feed their families. Much more realistic.
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1322963321994289154
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2020, 05:26:53 PM
Post by: Rush on November 02, 2020, 05:52:58 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2020, 05:59:43 PM
Wow. Just... wow.
And you know, if something like this took place at a Trump event, it would be played 24/7 on the MSM. Those people would be sought out and made heroes.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 02, 2020, 06:08:34 PM
Post by: Rush on November 02, 2020, 06:31:33 PM
That had to be a long time ago.... clue: no masks
Good catch. It says 2019 in the title.
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2020, 06:44:31 PM
Good catch. It says 2019 in the title.
Probably during the primaries.
But did anyone see this? Of course not.
Lately there were instances of Biden being called out, but those videos have been put down as well.
There’s plenty out there. Again, it’s the contrast.
Post by: Rush on November 02, 2020, 06:57:27 PM
Probably during the primaries.
But did anyone see this? Of course not.
Lately there were instances of Biden being called out, but those videos have been put down as well.
There’s plenty out there. Again, it’s the contrast.
The difference between his and Trump’s is astonishing. All doom and gloom and hatred and anger vs sunny happy optimism and love. I don’t understand how anyone could see these and vote for Biden over Trump. The best thing of all is Trump over 4 years has proved that he isn’t just talk, he walks the walk too.
Post by: Anthony on November 03, 2020, 12:38:36 AM
The difference between his and Trump’s is astonishing. All doom and gloom and hatred and anger vs sunny happy optimism and love. I don’t understand how anyone could see these and vote for Biden over Trump. The best thing of all is Trump over 4 years has proved that he isn’t just talk, he walks the walk too.
The entire Democrat platform is based on anti American PESSIMISM. Government must do everything for you paid for by the evil corporations that donate mostly to Democrats and the evil 1% which ends up being you and me. >:(
Post by: Lucifer on November 03, 2020, 06:32:07 AM
https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/i-voted-for.129118/
Post by: Anthony on November 03, 2020, 06:35:06 AM
And in typical PoA style...............
https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/i-voted-for.129118/
Effing Commies.
Post by: Lucifer on November 03, 2020, 06:37:51 AM
Effing Commies.
What's funny is one of the mods came in to comment..........after the thread was closed.
Talk about the height of hypocrisy!
I wonder if the thread would have closed so quickly had it shown Biden in the lead? ???
Post by: jb1842 on November 03, 2020, 06:53:43 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 03, 2020, 07:23:51 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 03, 2020, 10:42:01 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 03, 2020, 11:56:12 AM
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Biden campaign manager Jen O'Malley Dillon: "We continue to have multiple pathways to 270 electoral votes" says they can win 270 even without PA and FL
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 03, 2020, 12:06:59 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 04, 2020, 10:52:18 AM
I wish Doug Collins had just run for his House seat and not thrown a hissy fit against the Governor for not appointing him to the open seat. He did a good job during the impeachment trial. Nope, he had to challenge Loeffler. Well, there will be a runoff between Loeffler and Warnock and Collins is out on his ass.
Loeffler is not a lock in the runoff. If she pulls all of Collins supports that only gets her to 46% and Warnock is currently at 32%. We'll see what happens in January. Hooray, I get to go vote again for the fourth time in less than twelve months.
Gwinnett County has been traditionally red has now turned entirely blue. It is the county the airport our EAA chapter is hosted at.
Post by: Anthony on November 04, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
Gwinnett County has been traditionally red has now turned entirely blue. It is the county the airport our EAA chapter is hosted at is in.
The suburban counties that were farther out from the city (we used to call them Ex-Burbs or Exurbs) have been over run by development and inner ring suburb and Metro types bringing their Democrat voting ways with them. This is a scary and dangerous trends due to their LARGE numbers. Same thing happened in my traditionally Republican County. ALL DEMOCRAT NOW.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 04, 2020, 11:29:16 AM
(for a good definition of such folks, read the science fiction novel "The Last Centurion", locusts will be mentioned a few times)
Post by: Lucifer on November 04, 2020, 11:35:48 AM
One of the battles here in Georgia was the Senate seat that Kelly Loeffller was appointed to by Governor Kemp. Doug Collins thought it should have been his si he decided to challenge Loeffller for the seat. In the meantime Raphael Warnock, local Atlanta preacher along with six other Democrats, four Independents, four other Republicans and one Green party were in this special election.
I wish Doug Collins had just run for his House seat and not thrown a hissy fit against the Governor for not appointing him to the open seat. He did a good job during the impeachment trial. Nope, he had to challenge Loeffler. Well, there will be a runoff between Loeffler and Warnock and Collins is out on his ass.
Loeffler is not a lock in the runoff. If she pulls all of Collins supports that only gets her to 46% and Warnock is currently at 32%. We'll see what happens in January. Hooray, I get to go vote again for the fourth time in less than twelve months.
Gwinnett County has been traditionally red has now turned entirely blue. It is the county the airport our EAA chapter is hosted at.
Splitting the vote has consequences. Collins should have known better.
Remember, Ross Perot gave us Clinton. by splitting the vote.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 04, 2020, 11:43:42 AM
Splitting the vote has consequences. Collins should have known better.
Remember, Ross Perot gave us Clinton. by splitting the vote.
splitting the vote certainly contributed, but it also allowed that scum clinton to claim to be middle of the road (what? a democrat lying about his real positions? I'm shocked).
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 04, 2020, 02:48:24 PM
but at least the two ballot questions went ok
Question 2: ranked voting, failed by a signicant margin
Question 1: requiring manufacturers allow access to vehicle data for service, passed something 75% to 25%. I'm not thrilled the government would get involved, but I also don't like the manufacturers playing I-got-a-secret
Post by: Rush on November 04, 2020, 03:13:36 PM
Well, in maskachusetts, it was a foregone conclusion that the moroons here would go for whatever slug had a (d) next to the name...
but at least the two ballot questions went ok
Question 2: ranked voting, failed by a signicant margin
Question 1: requiring manufacturers allow access to vehicle data for service, passed something 75% to 25%. I'm not thrilled the government would get involved, but I also don't like the manufacturers playing I-got-a-secret
I would agree with that too.
Post by: nddons on November 04, 2020, 03:23:24 PM
Well, in maskachusetts, it was a foregone conclusion that the moroons here would go for whatever slug had a (d) next to the name...Can you explain question 1 further? I don’t follow.
but at least the two ballot questions went ok
Question 2: ranked voting, failed by a signicant margin
Question 1: requiring manufacturers allow access to vehicle data for service, passed something 75% to 25%. I'm not thrilled the government would get involved, but I also don't like the manufacturers playing I-got-a-secret
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 04, 2020, 04:01:20 PM
Can you explain question 1 further? I don’t follow.
the official description is found at: https://www.sec.state.ma.us/ele/elepdf/IFV_2020.pdf
"We passed the first Right to Repair law in 2012, but as new cars become more computerized auto manufacturers are using a loophole to restrict access to data needed to diagnose problems, make repairs, and perform maintenance. This means car owners are steered toward more expensive dealer repair options. Vote YES to protect independent repair shops and preserve your ability to shop around."
a short summary is found at:
https://ballotpedia.org/Massachusetts_Question_1,_%22Right_to_Repair_Law%22_Vehicle_Data_Access_Requirement_Initiative_(2020)
"Massachusetts Question 1, the "Right to Repair Law" Vehicle Data Access Requirement Initiative was on the ballot in Massachusetts as an indirect initiated state statute on November 3, 2020. It was approved.
A "yes" vote supported requiring manufacturers that sell vehicles with telematics systems in Massachusetts to equip them with a standardized open data platform beginning with model year 2022 that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application.
A "no" vote opposed requiring vehicles beginning with model year 2022 to be equipped with a standardized open data platform that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application, thereby maintaining that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access mechanical and diagnostic data through a personal computer."
Post by: nddons on November 04, 2020, 04:06:49 PM
Oh. Duh. That makes sense.
the official description is found at: https://www.sec.state.ma.us/ele/elepdf/IFV_2020.pdf
"We passed the first Right to Repair law in 2012, but as new cars become more computerized auto manufacturers are using a loophole to restrict access to data needed to diagnose problems, make repairs, and perform maintenance. This means car owners are steered toward more expensive dealer repair options. Vote YES to protect independent repair shops and preserve your ability to shop around."
a short summary is found at:
https://ballotpedia.org/Massachusetts_Question_1,_%22Right_to_Repair_Law%22_Vehicle_Data_Access_Requirement_Initiative_(2020)
"Massachusetts Question 1, the "Right to Repair Law" Vehicle Data Access Requirement Initiative was on the ballot in Massachusetts as an indirect initiated state statute on November 3, 2020. It was approved.
A "yes" vote supported requiring manufacturers that sell vehicles with telematics systems in Massachusetts to equip them with a standardized open data platform beginning with model year 2022 that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application.
A "no" vote opposed requiring vehicles beginning with model year 2022 to be equipped with a standardized open data platform that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access to retrieve mechanical data and run diagnostics through a mobile-based application, thereby maintaining that vehicle owners and independent repair facilities may access mechanical and diagnostic data through a personal computer."
Thanks Bob.
Post by: nudnik on November 04, 2020, 04:56:05 PM
Well, in maskachusetts, it was a foregone conclusion that the moroons here would go for whatever slug had a (d) next to the name...
but at least the two ballot questions went ok
Question 2: ranked voting, failed by a signicant margin
Question 1: requiring manufacturers allow access to vehicle data for service, passed something 75% to 25%. I'm not thrilled the government would get involved, but I also don't like the manufacturers playing I-got-a-secret
What's the argument against ranked choice voting?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 04, 2020, 05:04:57 PM
What's the argument against ranked choice voting?
One person, one vote... like we've done for, oh, evah.
A better question would be to ask for the justification for ranked choice voting.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 04, 2020, 06:32:47 PM
One person, one vote... like we've done for, oh, evah.
A better question would be to ask for the justification for ranked choice voting.
Spoiler effect mitigation.
It attempts to allow more than two people on a ballot wherein several may hold similar positions such that they split their vote and a third who holds no positions in common with the others wins the vote despite getting a minority vote. E.g.:
A - Republican gets 32%
B - Libertarian gets 30%
C - Democrat gets 38%
Other alternative voting systems exist for the same purpose.
Post by: nudnik on November 04, 2020, 06:40:38 PM
One person, one vote... like we've done for, oh, evah.
A better question would be to ask for the justification for ranked choice voting.
Plausible third party candidate. Less "voting against" someone, but rather "voting for" someone.
Post by: bflynn on November 05, 2020, 01:35:49 PM
What's the argument against ranked choice voting?
The current system unfairly keeps too many Democrats out of office. If people could rank vote, it would elect more Democrats.
Less "voting against" someone, but rather "voting for" someone.
That will not happen until there are a substantial number of candidates worth voting for.
Post by: nudnik on November 05, 2020, 01:39:42 PM
That will not happen until there are a substantial number of candidates worth voting for.
Right but that's the exact idea with ranked choice. First preference goes to the person you want. Second choice goes to the person you think can beat the other guy.
Post by: nddons on November 05, 2020, 04:41:50 PM
Post by: Ron22 on November 05, 2020, 04:48:07 PM
Post by: nudnik on November 05, 2020, 05:32:06 PM
If Nevada had rank based voting good chance Trump would of won.
So be it. Still prefer it in the long run.
Post by: Ron22 on November 05, 2020, 05:34:49 PM
Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
Post by: nudnik on November 05, 2020, 05:43:20 PM
I have problems with rank based voting. But I do like the idea more people might vote 3rd party because there vote won’t be “wasted”.
Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
Do you have an idea that would encourage 3rd party voting, other than rank based voting?
I like rank based voting on principle, but I think it's too complicated for a lot of people. Both in execution and intent. Any better ideas?
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 05, 2020, 06:20:39 PM
Do you have an idea that would encourage 3rd party voting, other than rank based voting?
I like rank based voting on principle, but I think it's too complicated for a lot of people. Both in execution and intent. Any better ideas?
Approval voting looks simpler - though the cynic might see extra complexity as a way to winnow those easily confused.
Post by: bflynn on November 06, 2020, 02:05:19 AM
Right but that's the exact idea with ranked choice. First preference goes to the person you want. Second choice goes to the person you think can beat the other guy.
No, it isn't, you're just making this stuff up.
Having good candidates to vote for means the parties quit putting up people that are such idiots.
Post by: nudnik on November 06, 2020, 03:44:55 AM
No, it isn't, you're just making this stuff up.
Having good candidates to vote for means the parties quit putting up people that are such idiots.
Huh? Making what up? Only Maine has ranked choice voting right now, everybody else have First Past The Post.
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2020, 07:29:42 AM
The US is under a full coup attempt right before our eyes, and the MSM and Big Tech are all in on it.
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
Post by: Anthony on November 06, 2020, 04:09:57 PM
And while we are all focused on President, the democrats are maneuvering to take the senate as well. They are also hard at work to flip some house seats back to blue.
The US is under a full coup attempt right before our eyes, and the MSM and Big Tech are all in on it.
I agree. This is and has been a Coup since Trump was elected and prior to the inauguration. Russia, Russia, Russia, the Impeachment, The Virus response, the lock downs, the RIOTS, etc. All pushed by the Democrat/Media/Tech Alliance. The enemy of THE PEOPLE of the United States.
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2020, 04:15:13 PM
I agree. This is and has been a Coup since Trump was elected and prior to the inauguration. Russia, Russia, Russia, the Impeachment, The Virus response, the lock downs, the RIOTS, etc. All pushed by the Democrat/Media/Tech Alliance. The enemy of THE PEOPLE of the United States.
But that enemy is about to take control.
Post by: Mr Pou on November 06, 2020, 05:34:19 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2020, 05:36:16 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2020, 05:40:33 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 06, 2020, 06:02:34 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2020, 06:21:28 PM
Justice Alito has required Pennsylvania to segregate out all ballots received after 8:00pm Tuesday. Does anyone know if the extended ballot time in PA was done legislatively? If not, it could clear the way to have those ballots thrown out.
There is the problem. The PA state legislature put into law that all ballots had to be received by 8pm on Election Day. The PA Supreme Court took it upon them selves to vacate the law and allow 3 extra days because of the pandemic.
The PA SC has violated the US constitution. Look for all of the ballots to be thrown out received after 8pm per PA law.
Post by: bflynn on November 06, 2020, 07:27:23 PM
The trouble with all this is that it gives the appearance of fraud. Elections should not be guessed at, especially not now. There shouldn’t be any ballots coming in after Election Day.
Need to restore faith in elections.
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2020, 07:51:47 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2020, 08:05:46 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 06, 2020, 08:06:44 PM
https://pjmedia.com/election/bryan-preston/2020/11/06/breaking-michigan-legislature-to-convene-special-joint-oversight-hearing-saturday-after-glitches-blow-one-election-give-6000-trump-votes-to-biden-n1131066
The only way I could see that kind of mistake happening is if the systems are reading paper ballots and there is some sort of physical offset that shifts the assignments off by one. If the ballots looked like the attached, then the telltale would be no votes (or few, if the error was intermittent) for the Republicans and a large vote for the Libertarians. Other votes would be messed up too. Other telltales would suggest fraud rather than electromechanical failure. The article mentions dated software, but that would have not be causal except for machine tampering.
(https://patch.com/img/cdn/users/457365/2012/10/raw/f040d3c163e152ad94800bd50130f8f5.jpg?width=705)
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 06, 2020, 08:10:54 PM
The only way I could see that kind of mistake happening is if the systems are reading paper ballots and there is some sort of physical offset that shifts the assignments off by one. If the ballots looked like the attached, then the telltale would be no votes (or few, if the error was intermittent) for the Republicans and a large vote for the Libertarians. Other votes would be messed up too. Other telltales would suggest fraud rather than electromechanical failure. The article mentions dated software, but that would have not be causal except for machine tampering.
Don't discount the possibility of some software implementation screwups. The cause doesn't have to be physical. Software errors have caused some spectacularly bizarre errors.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 06, 2020, 08:39:18 PM
Don't discount the possibility of some software implementation screwups. The cause doesn't have to be physical. Software errors have caused some spectacularly bizarre errors.
I’ve been programming since 1974 and will not dispute that at all. Somewhat on topic is the Open Source voting machine project, which is described here: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.59.864&rep=rep1&type=pdf (http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.59.864&rep=rep1&type=pdf) I came to know of it because I worked the last 12 years of my career prior to retiring with one of its authors: Karl Auerbach (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Auerbach (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Auerbach)). There is a picture of me with him at an Interop on this web page: https://iwl.com/company/about-us (https://iwl.com/company/about-us). (The job interview with him before I started devolved into us discussing the dumbest things we’d done in our programming careers.)
Post by: bflynn on November 07, 2020, 05:21:00 AM
As a professional computer programmer, this sums it up:
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 07, 2020, 05:55:26 AM
Post by: Little Joe on November 07, 2020, 06:20:02 AM
Voting day should be two or three days (eg: Sat, Sun and Monday) and maybe even be recognized as National Holidays. Everyone should be issued a free voter ID and it must be updated prior to every election in order to vote.
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 06:34:04 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 07:13:27 AM
Post by: Username on November 07, 2020, 07:21:45 AM
One card to rule them all
One card to find them
One card to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them.
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 07:37:22 AM
It could all be solved with a national ID card. Makes things easy.
One card to rule them all
One card to find them
One card to bring them all
And in the darkness bind them.
Problem is that ID's are easily forged. Look at the thousands of driver's licenses that were intercepted coming in from China.
Back to voting. The voting part is easy. Everyone who votes must be registered, and present an ID to vote to be checked against the registration.
Each state legislature needs to put in place laws to keep the voting database clean. There needs to be a national system to check for people who attempt to vote in multiple states.
Enforce absentee voting regulations. Enforce state voting laws.
Today we are beginning to learn of some more nefarious crap going on in the swing states. Programs called "Hammer" and "Scorecard" are being used to shift election results. We are also seeing computer "glitches" throwing huge vote numbers to one candidate.
This is going to get uglier and uglier as more details emerge. This is why the dims, the MSM and Big Tech are going all out to shut down this election and get their man in the WH to stop these investigations.
Post by: Username on November 07, 2020, 08:59:02 AM
This is going to get uglier and uglier as more details emerge. This is why the dims, the MSM and Big Tech are going all out to shut down this election and get their man in the WH to stop these investigations.Exactly. If their guy gets into the WH then all investigations into the election will stop. We will not be allowed (by media and big tech) to question the integrity of the election. Then the machine will work overtime to make sure that the fraud is made permanent. It won't matter how anyone votes, the result will be predetermined.
Our only hope is Trump beating the odds and emerging victorious. But he will have three months to do SOMETHING if the worst happens and he is defeated by the machine. I trust he will follow Hillary's advice and never give up the fight.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 07, 2020, 09:05:10 AM
Post by: Rush on November 07, 2020, 09:45:49 AM
Exactly. If their guy gets into the WH then all investigations into the election will stop. We will not be allowed (by media and big tech) to question the integrity of the election. Then the machine will work overtime to make sure that the fraud is made permanent. It won't matter how anyone votes, the result will be predetermined.
Our only hope is Trump beating the odds and emerging victorious. But he will have three months to do SOMETHING if the worst happens and he is defeated by the machine. I trust he will follow Hillary's advice and never give up the fight.
If he beats this then he will hands down be the best warrior in my lifetime. He will have won a major battle against an embedded, rotten, corrupt set of totalitarian wannabes that have wormed their way into the corridors of power.
Post by: jb1842 on November 07, 2020, 10:19:24 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 10:26:07 AM
I then realized it was FoxNews.......
FoxNews is now dead. I expect to see some shakeups soon, such as removing Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham, plus sending Hannity packing.
They are now all in with the MSM mentality. “Fair and Balanced” is as laughable as “The Most Trusted Name in News”.
Post by: Rush on November 07, 2020, 11:54:41 AM
So flipping through channels I, at first thought I was watching the live feed from the Biden campaign.
I then realized it was FoxNews.......
FoxNews is now dead. I expect to see some shakeups soon, such as removing Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham, plus sending Hannity packing.
They are now all in with the MSM mentality. “Fair and Balanced” is as laughable as “The Most Trusted Name in News”.
They are definitely dead to me now.
Post by: Anthony on November 07, 2020, 12:13:24 PM
That's why they want our guns. Watch.
Post by: Username on November 07, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
I suggest we give Joe the same chance and support that they gave Trump from when he was declared the candidate in 2016 through today.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 07, 2020, 12:24:49 PM
I suggest we give Joe the same chance and support that they gave Trump from when he was declared the candidate in 2016 through today.
I think we should be better than the haters have done the past 4 years.
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 12:46:30 PM
I think we should be better than the haters have done the past 4 years.
Yes and no.
The republicans are the party of surrender. Give them a chance and that’s exactly what they would do in this situation.
I’m not surrendering to a corrupt career politician that wants to destroy my life, and everyone around me in order to enriched his family. I will not surrender to a Marxist politician that has a career of zero accomplishments and only wants to follow the agenda of the far left.
I won’t surrender to those who insist this was a “fair” election when the evidence shows just the opposite.
We are fighting to stop a deliberate over throw of our country by those who hate us. And their hatred is overwhelming. Be nice to them all you want, because they will continue to hate and despise you.
Post by: Rush on November 07, 2020, 12:49:08 PM
Yes and no.
The republicans are the party of surrender. Give them a chance and that’s exactly what they would do in this situation.
I’m not surrendering to a corrupt career politician that wants to destroy my life, and everyone around me in order to enriched his family. I will not surrender to a Marxist politician that has a career of zero accomplishments and only wants to follow the agenda of the far left.
I won’t surrender to those who insist this was a “fair” election when the evidence shows just the opposite.
We are fighting to stop a deliberate over throw of our country by those who hate us. And their hatred is overwhelming. Be nice to them all you want, because they will continue to hate and despise you.
Yeah... there is a time to go to war and I think this is getting real close.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 07, 2020, 12:52:42 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 01:05:21 PM
Yeah... there is a time to go to war and I think this is getting real close.
There’s not going to be a war. The rule of law will prevail. This is not over who will be president, this is all about preserving our election integrity.
Each (legal) avenue available right now favors Trump, hands down. Counting ever (legal) vote favors Trump. The constitution is in Trump’s favor.
The Democrats know this. This is why the propaganda war is heating up. Their only avenue to win is by corruption and theft, it’s all they have.
By defeating them, and showing the world just how deranged and corrupt they truly are, will put down the coup. It will also allow Trump, and us, the time to rebuild the election system to prevent another coup attempt. It will also allow Trump to keep draining the swamp.
And there is going to be an epic purge coming.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 07, 2020, 01:29:38 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 01:33:04 PM
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we shall never surrender
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Sir_Winston_Churchill_-_19086236948.jpg/220px-Sir_Winston_Churchill_-_19086236948.jpg)
Post by: PropWash on November 07, 2020, 02:08:40 PM
There’s not going to be a war. The rule of law will prevail. This is not over who will be president, this is all about preserving our election integrity.
Each (legal) avenue available right now favors Trump, hands down. Counting ever (legal) vote favors Trump. The constitution is in Trump’s favor.
The Democrats know this. This is why the propaganda war is heating up. Their only avenue to win is by corruption and theft, it’s all they have.
By defeating them, and showing the world just how deranged and corrupt they truly are, will put down the coup. It will also allow Trump, and us, the time to rebuild the election system to prevent another coup attempt. It will also allow Trump to keep draining the swamp.
And there is going to be an epic purge coming.
I sure hope you are right! There is a republican sleeping giant who agree that this attempt by the dims is the final straw.
Post by: Anthony on November 07, 2020, 03:09:05 PM
There’s not going to be a war. The rule of law will prevail. This is not over who will be president, this is all about preserving our election integrity.
Each (legal) avenue available right now favors Trump, hands down. Counting ever (legal) vote favors Trump. The constitution is in Trump’s favor.
The Democrats know this. This is why the propaganda war is heating up. Their only avenue to win is by corruption and theft, it’s all they have.
By defeating them, and showing the world just how deranged and corrupt they truly are, will put down the coup. It will also allow Trump, and us, the time to rebuild the election system to prevent another coup attempt. It will also allow Trump to keep draining the swamp.
And there is going to be an epic purge coming.
You are more optimistic than I am. I think the Democrat/Media/Tech/Social Media/Globalist forces have won.
Post by: Steingar on November 07, 2020, 04:28:32 PM
Isn’t even a shred of evidence of fraud except in the imaginations of Trumplethinskin’s supporters. I wish you guys would just shut the fuck up about it. Might as well wish for the moon.
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 04:30:54 PM
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“We all know why Joe Biden is rushing to falsely pose as the winner, and why his media allies are trying so hard to help him: they don’t want the truth to be exposed. The simple fact is this election is far from over. Joe Biden has not been certified as the winner of any states, let alone any of the highly contested states headed for mandatory recounts, or states where our campaign has valid and legitimate legal challenges that could determine the ultimate victor. In Pennsylvania, for example, our legal observers were not permitted meaningful access to watch the counting process. Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media.”
“Beginning Monday, our campaign will start prosecuting our case in court to ensure election laws are fully upheld and the rightful winner is seated. The American People are entitled to an honest election: that means counting all legal ballots, and not counting any illegal ballots. This is the only way to ensure the public has full confidence in our election. It remains shocking that the Biden campaign refuses to agree with this basic principle and wants ballots counted even if they are fraudulent, manufactured, or cast by ineligible or deceased voters. Only a party engaged in wrongdoing would unlawfully keep observers out of the count room – and then fight in court to block their access. I will not rest until the American people have the honest vote count they deserve and that Democracy demands.”
– President Donald J. Trump
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 07, 2020, 04:36:17 PM
Sadly, there are many such locust in our country.
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 04:38:45 PM
If Trump wins it has to be fair and square (actually, he didn’t, but we have the Electoral college and it’s part of the constitution). If Biden wins it has to be fraud, because...er...well....TRUMP!
Isn’t even a shred of evidence of fraud except in the imaginations of Trumplethinskin’s supporters. I wish you guys would just shut the fuck up about it. Might as well wish for the moon.
Oh, so we should just "shut the fuck up"? Wow, so you don't agree, so shut down the dissent? My my, how "progressive" of you.
So would you like to have a one on one about the constitution and how it applies here? I'm more than willing to have that debate with you.
By the way, a winner has not been declared yet. Oh, I know the MSM has declared Biden the winner, but the constitution does not give the media that right.
You sure have a problem with the rule of law in this country. Why is that?
Oh, and for you and your fellow travelers:
(https://i2.wp.com/hardnoxandfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/tb55.jpg?w=676&ssl=1)
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 04:40:57 PM
Only a complete ignoramus would deny the existence of voter fraud.
Sadly, there are many such locust in our country.
Very simple.
If there is no voter fraud, why are the democrats openly resisting letting anyone watch the vote counts, as well as defying court orders to allow witnesses?
What is there to hide if this is legitimate? Wouldn't they want to show this is legitimate and rub the republicans nose in it?
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/actual-pennsylvania-voters-39-lived-through-the-civil-war-45-were-born-in-the-1800s/
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/corey-lewandowski-woman-in-pa-registered-to-vote-and-voted-9-days-after-she-died/
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/jim-jordan-spits-fire-5-major-examples-of-systemic-voter-fraud-in-pennsylvania/
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/in-9-wisconsin-precincts-more-than-100-percent-voted/
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Post by: Steingar on November 07, 2020, 05:38:17 PM
Very simple.Several were watched. They had windows. You guys are morons who only listen to what moves in your world view.
If there is no voter fraud, why are the democrats openly resisting letting anyone watch the vote counts, as well as defying court orders to allow witnesses?
What is there to hide if this is legitimate? Wouldn't they want to show this is legitimate and rub the republicans nose in it?
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 05:45:29 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 05:48:05 PM
Several were watched. They had windows. You guys are morons who only listen to what moves in your world view.
So what about the ones where the observers were escorted out of the room and the door was locked? What about the ones where the windows were covered over by cardboard?
Are you alleging that allowing to watch "a few" suffices for all?
Also, again, if there is nothing to hide, then why keep anyone out? Shouldn't the democrats be willing to prove to everyone how legit this is?
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 05:59:46 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 07:14:45 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 07:24:08 PM
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But as his speech was aired by most of the mainstream media some guys on the internet did a little research and posted videos where allegedly the Democratic nominee speaks before a “rally” of dozens of empty cars — and he wasn’t even there.
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 07:37:14 PM
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Many in the mainstream media may declare a winner in the 2020 presidential election, but such pronouncements are as irrelevant as they are. Given how so many of them predicted a “blue wave” landslide for former Vice President Joe Biden, no reasonable person should trust them now.
The presidency is chosen by electors from all 50 states, not news organizations riven with bias or pollsters with deeply flawed calculations. Those electors are appointed based on voting tallies in the respective states. Hence, the counting of ballots determines who will occupy the White House for the next four years, not the media.
Herein rests a legal quagmire: should every vote be counted or only those votes lawfully cast? Democrats demand the former, while Republicans plead the latter. It seems inevitable that the courts —and perhaps the U.S. Supreme Court— will have to sort it out. This is as it should be in a constitutional republic dependent on the rule of law. We resolve our differences in court, not on the streets (or in newsrooms).
Since the election on November 3, multiple lawsuits have been filed by Republican parties and the Trump campaign in states where the voting is close. This was preceded by a flurry of lawsuits filed by Democrats before the election seeking an advantage in how the votes would be counted. At present, there is litigation in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona. These cases fall into two broad categories.
The first involves the close monitoring of vote counting. In Michigan, for example, the Trump campaign is requesting that poll observers be permitted “meaningful access” to the counting process. Since the law requires this, the argument is sound. Yet, in defiance of the law, monitors have been sequestered anywhere from 20 feet to 30 feet away (in some instances, even more) from those individuals who are counting the ballots.
With such a restriction, they may as well be standing a mile away. From a distance, it is not possible to witness what is on the ballot, how a vote was marked or tabulated, whether it is properly signed, or if it has a valid postmark. This is not meaningful access, it is meaningless. A poll watcher must be able to actually watch how a ballot is being handled and computed in order to guard against suppression or chicanery.
State rules vary, but most allow for challenges if there is some indication of a voting irregularity. This cannot be accomplished from a distance where visibility is diminished. It is both wrong and illegal. The law demands transparency and the Trump campaign has every right to sue states that refuse to comply with the law.
If Americans are to have confidence in the honesty of our voting systems, they must be open to scrutiny. If we are to trust the outcome of an election, there must be a vigorous check on the process to ensure its integrity. Votes not lawfully cast should not be counted. Votes cast lawfully must be counted correctly. The only way to prevent ballot interference is to watch the process unfold.
The second legal challenge involves the exclusion of late ballots. In Pennsylvania, Republicans sued to enforce the law passed by the state legislature. That law is clear: all ballots must be received by the election boards by 8 pm on the day of the election, November 3rd. Ballots received after that time and day are not to be counted. (Georgia has a nearly identical law.)
In advance of the election and contrary to the plain language of the law, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court (elected Democrats) decided all on their own that ballots received days later could be counted, as long as there was a postmark on or before Election Day. By judicial fiat they ruled that a missing or indecipherable postmarked envelope is presumptively timely, which is absurd. A signature that does not match is automatically accepted. This is a recipe for voter fraud.
What these judges did is anathema to the constitution and a violation of the separation of powers. Without authority, the justices on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court tore up the law passed by the legislature and created a new law that conforms to their own political desires and, arguably, supports Joe Biden. It was a decision that reeks of partisanship. The legislature had considered and rejected the idea of allowing late ballots to be counted.
It is well to remember that judges are not lawmakers; they are not super-legislators. It is neither their duty nor right to nullify an existing law and invent a new one out of thin air to replace it. Yet, this is precisely what these justices did. They unconstitutionally usurped the power of the Pennsylvania legislature.
What is confounding is that the U.S. Supreme Court could have put a stop to this lawless action before the election took place. Republicans filed a petition to challenge the extra-legal ruling, not once but twice. Thanks to Chief Justice John Roberts, who sided with the liberal justices, the high court refused to issue a “stay” and later declined to take up the case on the merits. This left the wrongful Pennsylvania decision in place.
Had Roberts and the Supreme Court done their job, the rules over which ballots can and cannot be counted in Pennsylvania (and Georgia) would have been clearly delineated in advance of the presidential election, avoiding the inexorable post-contest litigation and the acrimony that follows.
At the behest of Justice Samuel Alito, the high court urged Pennsylvania to segregate the tardy ballots. Are state election officials doing that? They say they are, but there’s no way to be sure. It is altogether possible (indeed, likely) that ballots have been co-mingled, making it exceedingly difficult after the fact to separate unlawful ballots from lawful ones.
Importantly, the case is still pending before the U.S. Supreme Court. On Wednesday, the Trump campaign filed a motion to intervene with the goal of resurrecting the dispute before the high court. Will the Supremes act expeditiously to rectify their own failure? Don’t count on it.
Roberts has a long and distinguished track record of protecting the legacy of the court by dodging politically incendiary cases. A presidential election is radioactive to Roberts. He seems to care less about the integrity of the democratic process, and more about burnishing his repetitional leadership as Chief Justice. Roberts hopes that it will all somehow go away. Like Cinderella, wishing is believing.
Democrats are now asking the Supreme Court to continue its stall. They know that, with the new addition of Justice Amy Coney Barrett, a majority on the court would summarily strike down the Pennsylvania decision. It’s an easy call —a no-brainer. But at this point, it remains to be seen whether that same majority will now override the wishes of Roberts by voting to grant an expedited review of the case.
There are other lawsuits that have been filed by the GOP. Some deal with allegations of ballot tampering, ballot “harvesting,” the “curing” of ballots with discrepancies, cheating, and voter fraud. Some of these lawsuits are viable and raise legitimate concerns, while others do not.
In its rush to anoint Biden, the liberal-dominated mainstream media is already denouncing Trump for exercising his legal right to file lawsuits and contest the results. Those journalists seem to have forgotten how Al Gore did much the same twenty years ago when it took a month to resolve the endless litigation that culminated in a ruling by the Supreme Court that effectively gave the presidency to George W. Bush. They’ve never gotten over that one.
But hypocrisy and bias are endemic in the cesspool of media malfeasance these days. Increasingly, pundits, pollsters, and the media have proven that they are unreliable purveyors of news and information. Frankly, they could screw-up a free lunch. Their adamant prophesy of a Biden tsunami on election day made a mockery of themselves and their profession.
In the end, it is the electors who choose the man who will occupy the Oval Office. Whether and to what extent the courts intervene to ensure that the process is fair and trustworthy remains an open question.
Ironically, the same media that spent four years demonizing Donald Trump as an illegitimate president who stole an election may now be saddled with the same sobriquet that haunts their chosen candidate, Joe Biden.
Post by: Steingar on November 07, 2020, 09:01:22 PM
So what about the ones where the observers were escorted out of the room and the door was locked? What about the ones where the windows were covered over by cardboard?
Are you alleging that allowing to watch "a few" suffices for all?
Also, again, if there is nothing to hide, then why keep anyone out? Shouldn't the democrats be willing to prove to everyone how legit this is?
Oh, and by the way, a bunch of the states where Trumplethinskin is baselessly alleging fraud are run by Republicans and have Republican Secretaries of State running the elections.
Post by: Lucifer on November 07, 2020, 09:20:30 PM
Oh, and by the way, a bunch of the states where Trumplethinskin is baselessly alleging fraud are run by Republicans and have Republican Secretaries of State running the elections.
Correct, the legislature is republican, but the executive is democrat, with democrat controlled cities and municipalities.
Are you even remotely aware of how state elections are conducted?
Is it remotely possible for you to behave as an adult or to even attempt to have an intelligent conversation?
But I want to give you credit here. You are a perfect bellwether of what’s happening with the progressive left. See, right now the dims are freaking out because they realize their guy has a razor thin chance of winning. This is why the rush to use their media to declare him the winner, even as votes are still being counted and before states that they declared for him have even certified one vote.
The other part of the panic is realizing that Trump has the law and constitution on his side. The dims (and you) also know the lawsuits have merit and are indefensible for them.
Remember in 2000 when Al Gore (D) filed lawsuits in the election? Remember when Al Gore (D) called himself the President Elect and formed a transition team, and even began selecting cabinet members?
Remember the media being outraged? Naw, neither do I.
Post by: Lucifer on November 08, 2020, 07:08:39 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 08, 2020, 07:11:35 AM
Think about how someone might organize voter fraud... Would you want to commit fraud in a manner that draws attention to the fraud?
Having truckloads of doctored, fraudulent ballots arriving late would be just about the dumbest way to do it. Instead, you'd want the ballots arriving in plenty of time. Kind of like driving through New York State with firearms... do you drive as fast as possible or do you drive within the speed limit, obeying all traffic regulations?
Post by: Lucifer on November 08, 2020, 07:16:02 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 08, 2020, 09:07:47 AM
This election is not over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agiB01iiA8Y&feature=youtu.be
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 08, 2020, 09:14:00 AM
ya know, all the mail-in ballots arriving late could be merely a distraction.Their hand was forced. The plan was based on Trump’s 2016 numbers. He outperformed this spectacularly so they had to scramble to inject enough to counter.
Think about how someone might organize voter fraud... Would you want to commit fraud in a manner that draws attention to the fraud?
Having truckloads of doctored, fraudulent ballots arriving late would be just about the dumbest way to do it. Instead, you'd want the ballots arriving in plenty of time. Kind of like driving through New York State with firearms... do you drive as fast as possible or do you drive within the speed limit, obeying all traffic regulations?
We all saw that on Election night. Trump ahead by unbeatable numbers ... and everything just stopped. Then Biden’s count leaped up by more than 100,000 in several states.
Thousands of calls are coming in to the fraud hotlines.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 08, 2020, 09:18:08 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 08, 2020, 09:50:44 AM
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/fake-news-proclaims-fake-president.html
Post by: Anthony on November 08, 2020, 12:01:35 PM
Post by: Rush on November 08, 2020, 06:40:39 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 08, 2020, 06:44:47 PM
Today's News and Observer in Raleigh. This portion is all the pic my sister sent. They're celebrating in the streets. Setting us up for massive violence if it ends up going to Trump.
This is part of the two prong strategy.
First, the dims know Biden didn't win legally. This is why they keep demanding Trump concede, because they know the law and the constitution are on Trump's side.
Second, knowing there is a good chance Trump will prevail, they are setting up the narrative "Trump stole the election" so they can continue to delegitimize him.
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2020, 11:13:23 PM
I think we should be better than the haters have done the past 4 years.Fuck that shit.
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Post by: nddons on November 08, 2020, 11:18:03 PM
If Trump wins it has to be fair and square (actually, he didn’t, but we have the Electoral college and it’s part of the constitution). If Biden wins it has to be fraud, because...er...well....TRUMP!You can’t find fraud if you don’t look for it. You seem to be pacified by whatever CNN tells you. They aren’t looking either.
Isn’t even a shred of evidence of fraud except in the imaginations of Trumplethinskin’s supporters. I wish you guys would just shut the fuck up about it. Might as well wish for the moon.
Why don’t you take an independent look at the facts we have seen this week.
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2020, 11:24:27 PM
Oh, and by the way, a bunch of the states where Trumplethinskin is baselessly alleging fraud are run by Republicans and have Republican Secretaries of State running the elections.The Pennsylvania Supreme Court creates new voting rules that contravened the rules of the Republican-controlled legislature.
What is the recourse there, smart ass?
Post by: Anthony on November 09, 2020, 04:54:56 AM
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court creates new voting rules that contravened the rules of the Republican-controlled legislature.
What is the recourse there, smart ass?
He ignores the tough questions. As Rush says, why bother? Professor CNN, NBC can not engage in critical thinking.
Post by: bflynn on November 09, 2020, 01:23:42 PM
He ignores the tough questions. As Rush says, why bother? Professor CNN, NBC can not engage in critical thinking.
Absolutely. Michael and I have had discussion in the past, some even face to face. I've been operating on the assumption that he's stubborn, but now I'm starting to question his integrity.
Post by: Steingar on November 09, 2020, 02:45:03 PM
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court creates new voting rules that contravened the rules of the Republican-controlled legislature.
What is the recourse there, smart ass?
Could have been appealed to the most Conservative Supreme Court in my lifetime.
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2020, 02:53:23 PM
Could have been appealed to the most Conservative Supreme Court in my lifetime.
It's going to be.
I could explain to you why the first attempt was sent back down by the SC, the legal reasoning, but (a) You wouldn't be able to comprehend it, and (b) Your ideology will prevent you from believing it.
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2020, 08:43:12 AM
It's going to be.Add that the PA Supremes ignored the order from Justice Alito to segregate post-election day ballots, requiring him to re-issue that order.
I could explain to you why the first attempt was sent back down by the SC, the legal reasoning, but (a) You wouldn't be able to comprehend it, and (b) Your ideology will prevent you from believing it.
Post by: Anthony on November 10, 2020, 08:46:47 AM
Add that the PA Supremes ignored the order from Justice Alito to segregate post-election day ballots, requiring him to re-issue that order.
They are Far Left Criminals as is the Governor. Wolf the White Obama. Effeminate, Communist, Asshole.
Post by: Palmpilot on November 10, 2020, 06:28:09 PM
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/alito-orders-segregation-of-some-pennsylvania-ballots-even-asgop-lawsuits-see-little-success
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2020, 07:33:39 PM
ABA Journal article on the Pennsylvania situation:
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/alito-orders-segregation-of-some-pennsylvania-ballots-even-asgop-lawsuits-see-little-success
ABA. Yea, no bias there. ::)
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 11, 2020, 12:22:01 PM
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Section 1
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 11, 2020, 12:40:34 PM
This seems as good a place as any to suggest that if Biden wins then Democrats may wait to attempt to install Harris as President till after 2022 because if she is installed earlier, then per the 22nd amendment, she could only run for reelection once, yielding 8 or fewer years in office, while getting installed with two or fewer years remaining allows her to run twice more, allowing her to be president for 10 years.
Saints preserve us!
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 11, 2020, 12:46:22 PM
This seems as good a place as any to suggest that if Biden wins then Democrats may wait to attempt to install Harris as President till after 2022 because if she is installed earlier, then per the 22nd amendment, she could only run for reelection once, yielding 8 or fewer years in office, while getting installed with two or fewer years remaining allows her to run twice more, allowing her to be president for 10 years.
otoh - if the democrats lose the house in 2022, then this "cunning" plan may backfire.
And who seriously thinks gropin' joe can make it past the end of 2021?
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2020, 12:48:38 PM
This seems as good a place as any to suggest that if Biden wins then Democrats may wait to attempt to install Harris as President till after 2022 because if she is installed earlier, then per the 22nd amendment, she could only run for reelection once, yielding 8 or fewer years in office, while getting installed with two or fewer years remaining allows her to run twice more, allowing her to be president for 10 years.No, they don’t want Harris as president either. She was HATED by democrats and the democrat electorate. That’s why she quit the primaries before the first primary contest.
Look beyond her. Who’s waiting in the wings that is (a) electable and (b) radical? I’m not sure who that is, but I sense the Dems are 3-4 moves in front of this.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 11, 2020, 09:30:24 PM
And while we are all focused on President, the democrats are maneuvering to take the senate as well.
The MSM outlets appear to now show the Republicans holding 50 seats - the only two undecided are the Georgia ones, and I expect both Republican contenders will prevail. The hand recount has a small chance of one Republican winning outright while the other will go to a runoff that should yield a second Republican seat.
Post by: Lucifer on November 12, 2020, 06:23:40 AM
The MSM outlets appear to now show the Republicans holding 50 seats - the only two undecided are the Georgia ones, and I expect both Republican contenders will prevail. The hand recount has a small chance of one Republican winning outright while the other will go to a runoff that should yield a second Republican seat.
If the GA election is fair in the runoff. If the republicans can't hold the two GA seats and we see a 50/50 senate, and if Biden manages to actually win the election that would place Harris as the tie breaker.
Post by: Little Joe on November 12, 2020, 08:59:21 AM
Post by: Rush on November 12, 2020, 09:01:37 AM
If the GA election is fair in the runoff. If the republicans can't hold the two GA seats and we see a 50/50 senate, and if Biden manages to actually win the election that would place Harris as the tie breaker.
Right now this is my biggest worry.
Post by: nddons on November 12, 2020, 10:23:01 AM
We have to hope that without Trump, perhaps Romney will become a Republican again and not feel like he has to vote with the Dems to soothe his butthurt.(https://media0.giphy.com/media/cKKJ2EO8cUiZxSn1SV/giphy.gif)
Post by: Lucifer on November 12, 2020, 10:29:00 AM
We have to hope that without Trump, perhaps Romney will become a Republican again and not feel like he has to vote with the Dems to soothe his butthurt.
YGTBSM
Post by: Lucifer on November 12, 2020, 01:22:18 PM
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November 12, 2020
Concede Nothing -- There IS No ‘President-Elect’ Yet
By Marc Sheppard
The media continue to build upon the shaky foundation they poured on Saturday when they prematurely called the 2020 Presidential Election for Joe Biden. Rising from the traditional “nothing to see here” to the admonishing “all votes have been counted” and ultimately to Whoopi Goldberg’s incendiary “suck it up,” it seems clear that the plan is to make the election over simply because they say the election is over.
And, despite Hillary’s strong suggestion that Biden not do so under any circumstances, the mask-muffled screams from Trump-haters of all persuasions demand that the president accept that Election 2020 is over and concede that he’s lost. Lost, believe it or not, to a bumbling, poorly scripted automaton in the throes of rapidly creeping dementia.
Except that it’s not over. Not by a longshot.
Not with ongoing ballot counting in key states, a fast-growing number of serious legal challenges pending in previously “called” states and an even faster-growing number of sworn (under penalty of perjury) fraud allegations, it’s not.
And more to the point, it’s not over until at least 71 million Trump-voting Americans (that we know of) who have every reason to smell yet another big fat Democrat Rat have been at least somewhat convinced it’s over. Not by dismissive acceptance speeches or talk of transition teams and task forces and ridiculous cabinet choices from Joe Biden. Not by the celebratory dancing of blathering woke-parvenus playing endless games of virtue-signal-tag in the playground of social media.
But rather by reasonable and irrefutable facts, dished out in helpings of very viable responses to very viable accusations of widespread systemic election fraud. Accusations which continue to grow in number, scale, variety and, most importantly, credibility.
In just the past few days, fresh news stories of widespread and wide-ranging vote-rigging schemes, particularly in vital swing-states, have broken as fast as Pro-Joe Media can ignore them and Twitter can block them. To name just a few, I offer ballot-scanner misreads and software “glitches,” all miraculously changing Trump votes to Biden votes as well as dozens (and growing) of sworn affidavits by eyewitnesses of magically appearing Biden ballots and mysteriously disappearing Trump ballots, often at the hands of corrupt election officials.
Speaking of whom, have you heard the story of Richard Hopkins, a Pennsylvania postal employee who blew the whistle on Postmaster Rob Weisenbach's order to backdate late ballots to Nov. 3? News of Hopkins’s conversations with federal investigators apparently prompted the WaPo to publish a hit-piece on him, wrongfully claiming he had recanted his allegations -- something he fervently denies [video]. In a word: Wow.
And there’s more: More late ballot backdating, more mass-voter-fraud by Detroit officials, fabricated proof of residence data for illegal and deceased voters, sudden huge swaps in county Trump and Biden tallies, apparently by intentional injection, and even an alleged link between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and the company responsible for the data-manipulating voting machines, which have added hundreds of thousands of bogus Biden votes nationwide (See here, here, here, here and here).
These incredibly credible whistleblower reports continue to roll in, adding further evidence to the attempted coup and substance to the lawsuits ahead.
Team Trump got that ball rolling on Monday, filing a lawsuit [PDF] in Pennsylvania seeking an emergency injunction to stop officials from certifying Joe Biden’s victory due to “potentially fraudulent votes being counted without proper verification or oversight.”
Trump spokespeople have promised a slew of similar filings, and, given the recent increased inflow of sworn voter fraud complaints, there’s little reason to doubt them.
Yet, by far the strongest of Team Trump’s court challenges is not one of voter fraud, but rather judicial fraud. In March of this year, the 5-to-2 Democrat Pennsylvania Supreme Court bowed to leftist pressure and, purportedly in response to COVID-19, extended the mail-in ballot deadline by an arbitrary three full days. Not due to ambiguities or unconstitutionality, as is usually the case, but simply because after declaring coronavirus a "natural disaster," they felt empowered to just throw out the existing law and write a new one, effectively changing election day in Pennsylvania.
This one will surely be re-decided quickly by the Supreme Court. SCOTUS had previously passed on the case by a 4-4 pre-Amy Coney Barrett vote, a decision so outrageously bad that one intrepid Justice, Samuel Alito, broke with tradition by making it his personal project to revisit it after the election. Indeed, this one will most certainly go Trump’s way.
So what impact will these allegations, sworn or not, together with well-targeted and favorably adjudicated lawsuits, have on who resides at 1600 Penn for the next 4 years? Check this out.
As of this writing (11/11/2020 02:00 EST) Real Clear Politics has NOT called Pennsylvania or awarded its 20 votes to anyone, media reports to the contrary notwithstanding. Nor Alaska (3), North Carolina (15), Georgia(16) or Arizona (11) – All too close to call. In fact, the renowned and highly respected aggregator of election statistics has Biden 11 electoral votes short of the 270 required to substantiate the dubious title of “president elect” he’s been bestowed.
Indeed, until all votes are not only counted but also verified (and State certified), there is no president-elect. Sure, Sleepy Joe can call himself whatever floats his boat, be it Joe, Jill, or, during particularly demented moments, even Hunter. And so long as the media dutifully parrot his choice, he can lay claim to whatever title his demented mind desires, including president-elect.
And speaking of counting votes, why not do some vote counting of your own – electoral votes that is? RCP has Trump at 214 and Biden at 259. 270 wins; winner takes it all. 65 votes still up for grabs. Oh, and Michigan, which was called blue, has 16. Any guesses why I mention that?
Heads exploded everywhere on Monday when Secretary of State Mike Pompeo responded to an impudent question about his employees’ preparations to engage with Joe Biden’s transition team by declaring with a smile, “There will be a smooth transfer of power … to a second Trump administration.”
How dare he suggest it’s not over and that Trump may still emerge the victor? Did that smile suggest he knows something we don’t?
Finish the math yet?
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Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 12, 2020, 05:39:14 PM
Stunning info. Watch to the end.
A Dem whistleblower says they started training her to cheat in September.
Post by: Anthony on November 12, 2020, 05:47:12 PM
We have to hope that without Trump, perhaps Romney will become a Republican again and not feel like he has to vote with the Dems to soothe his butthurt.
Did your wife make you post that?
Post by: Little Joe on November 12, 2020, 06:05:46 PM
Did your wife make you post that?I'm not sure what you all have against my post. If Trump loses, and the Senate is lost, even by one seat, we are in deep shit. Romney has been voting against Trump for four years now and I don't believe he was voting in the national interest all those times. So even if we have a one vote senate majority, we will keep losing votes to the Dems, unless Romney get's his shit together and starts voting like a Republican instead of a butthurt, anti-Trump TDS victim.
Post by: Anthony on November 13, 2020, 03:37:51 AM
I'm not sure what you all have against my post. If Trump loses, and the Senate is lost, even by one seat, we are in deep shit. Romney has been voting against Trump for four years now and I don't believe he was voting in the national interest all those times. So even if we have a one vote senate majority, we will keep losing votes to the Dems, unless Romney get's his shit together and starts voting like a Republican instead of a butthurt, anti-Trump TDS victim.
Did McCain start voting differently, or those Senators in Maine and Alaska?
Post by: Little Joe on November 13, 2020, 05:05:04 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 13, 2020, 07:20:34 AM
If this were true, then why the intimidation and terrorizing of the Trump legal teams in various states? Why all the misdirection and disinformation campaigns? Why the reluctance to stand the scrutiny of recounts, or go to court to prove themselves right?
One would think that Biden and the dims would love to have multiple courtroom victories that they could use to show that Biden is a lawful winner.
What;s the old saying about the truth shall set you free?
Post by: Lucifer on November 13, 2020, 07:56:36 AM
Jonathan Turley: There was vote fraud
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Jonathan Turley, a confirmed liberal who believes in a "living Constitution" that reflect contemporary society, is a scholar at George Washington University.
He has advised whistleblowers, military personnel, judges, members of Congress and others. He fought for the courts to strike down the federal law banning cohabitation. He challenged the Libyan war on behalf of members of Congress and was lead counsel to the House of Representatives in its challenge to Barack Obama's off-the-cuff changes to the Affordable Care Act, resulting in a federal court decision that Obama violated the separation of powers by paying billions of dollars to insurance companies without congressional authorization.
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And he says of the 2020 presidential election, "I think it's clear at this point that voting fraud occurred."
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 15, 2020, 02:05:18 PM
Sidney Powell releases the Kraken.
Best news I’ve heard since November 3.
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2020, 02:10:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINl15MPhuY&feature=youtu.be
Sidney Powell releases the Kraken.
Best news I’ve heard since November 3.
Call me skeptic, and I’m a huge fan of Sydney Powell. But until the actual evidence comes out, and more importantly the appropriate officials begin to act on it, I’m not getting hopes up.
If DoJ (Barr) sides with the swamp, this goes nowhere. Remember the Hunter Biden laptop scandal?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 15, 2020, 02:12:57 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2020, 02:31:13 PM
I think this is magnitudes bigger than the laptop.
Let’s hope so.
Remember, right now, the swamp is fighting to regain control. We are just inches away from becoming a banana republic.
I’m keeping my eye on Barr and the SC.
Post by: Rush on November 15, 2020, 02:36:12 PM
Let’s hope so.
Remember, right now, the swamp is fighting to regain control. We are just inches away from becoming a banana republic.
I’m keeping my eye on Barr and the SC.
I am hoping like hell that Barr and the SC justices and all the key lawyers have hella security. I am 100% certain there are designs on their lives. Many of these witness are probably being targeted for their lives or blackmail too.
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2020, 02:39:13 PM
I am hoping like hell that Barr and the SC justices and all the key lawyers have hella security. I am 100% certain there are designs on their lives. Many of these witness are probably being targeted for their lives or blackmail too.
Just look at what’s happening to the various law firms working for the Trump campaign.
Post by: Username on November 15, 2020, 02:44:28 PM
Just look at what’s happening to the various law firms working for the Trump campaign.Exactly. Posting personal details, addresses, phone numbers, and schedules then hiding behind "This should be public information! Freedom of speech!". This should be criminal.
Post by: Little Joe on November 15, 2020, 02:59:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINl15MPhuY&feature=youtu.beAs Maria said: Wow!
Sidney Powell releases the Kraken.
Best news I’ve heard since November 3.
Just wow. This will either be huge, or it will be swept under the rug. But I doubt it will precipitate any legal action until after Biden is sworn in. Then what? Do we impeach Biden? Kamala? Does Speaker of the house become Pres? Or does Congress elect a new Pres/VP? Or do we hold a whole new election? Or do we have a civil war?
I think I'll have another Scotch and ponder on this.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 15, 2020, 03:38:01 PM
https://thepointnews.uk/2020/11/15/biden-campaign-director-arrested-for-electoral-fraud/
Post by: Anthony on November 15, 2020, 03:48:43 PM
First arrest.
https://thepointnews.uk/2020/11/15/biden-campaign-director-arrested-for-electoral-fraud/
I am sure this happened in at least every battleground state, PLUS Mail In Voter Fraud. We have been HAD! MFers!
Post by: Rush on November 15, 2020, 04:01:00 PM
First arrest.
https://thepointnews.uk/2020/11/15/biden-campaign-director-arrested-for-electoral-fraud/
Holy shit! Seriously? Certainly it’s happened in many more states. The SC needs to declare the entire election invalid.
Is MSM in the U.S. even reporting this?
Post by: Little Joe on November 15, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
First arrest.I hope it is just the first. Even if this were to amount to enough to overturn the election in TX, We already TX. We need to turn over the election in Blue States.
https://thepointnews.uk/2020/11/15/biden-campaign-director-arrested-for-electoral-fraud/
And it was NO surprise to me that I couldn't find any reference to this on any of the MSM sites, or even FOXNEWS.
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2020, 04:10:21 PM
Holy shit! Seriously? Certainly it’s happened in many more states. The SC needs to declare the entire election invalid.
Is MSM in the U.S. even reporting this?
The SC cannot invalidate the entire election. Each election is a state by state basis. In fact, with regards to fraud, it goes to each state to decide whether to invalidate or not.
This is where the lawsuits come into play. If it's proved that say Pennsylvania has irrefutable corruption, the Trump can sue the state to invalidate the election and not certify the vote. The legislature can step in as well.
Post by: Little Joe on November 15, 2020, 04:15:20 PM
Funny, huh?
No. I didn't think so either.
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2020, 04:17:48 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 15, 2020, 04:31:40 PM
First arrest.
https://thepointnews.uk/2020/11/15/biden-campaign-director-arrested-for-electoral-fraud/
Hmmm. There's a story from September accusing him of past ballot fraud:
https://thetexan.news/biden-campaign-operative-texas-state-senator-accused-of-mail-in-ballot-fraud/ (https://thetexan.news/biden-campaign-operative-texas-state-senator-accused-of-mail-in-ballot-fraud/)
It may be that the arrest is due to past activities, not the current election.
Post by: Rush on November 15, 2020, 04:41:32 PM
Hmmm. There's a story from September accusing him of past ballot fraud:
https://thetexan.news/biden-campaign-operative-texas-state-senator-accused-of-mail-in-ballot-fraud/ (https://thetexan.news/biden-campaign-operative-texas-state-senator-accused-of-mail-in-ballot-fraud/)
It may be that the arrest is due to past activities, not the current election.
https://nationalfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/AFFIDAVIT-OF-MARK-A.-AGUIRRE.pdf
Dated Sept. 27, 2020. Hired by Joe Biden for president campaign. Mail in ballots, were they being mailed in that early?
Going into nursing homes and filling out ballots for the residents this is so fucking SLIMEY.
Post by: Anthony on November 15, 2020, 04:44:21 PM
Right now the US is under the same censorship as Mainland China.
How did we get here? Is our affluence our downfall? Why do Leftists not understand they are hurting the country and THEMSELVES?
Post by: Rush on November 15, 2020, 04:55:16 PM
I found NO mention of this when I Googled it. When I used DUCKDUCKGO, I found several articles about it.
Funny, huh?
No. I didn't think so either.
I’m using duck duck go and can only find it on right leaning sites.
Post by: Lucifer on November 15, 2020, 07:05:41 PM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 16, 2020, 06:31:18 AM
https://noqreport.com/2020/11/15/twitter-accounts-for-rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-and-lin-wood-were-search-banned-today/
I'm sure that the concern is to protect the stress levels of snowflakes like POS.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 16, 2020, 07:48:53 AM
https://conservativehardliner.com/enemys-coup-failed-and-their-control-our-republic-slipping-away
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Newsflash: the winner doesn't concede.
The media can’t hold this cover too much longer. There’s too many moving parts and their infrastructure has been significantly weakened over the past few years.
The pressure bears down on them exponentially as each day passes. Participants in the coup attempt are certainly cracking and flipping. Election officials and voting machine witnesses have been coming forward in droves, and if the coup attempt was the Titanic, it just went vertical.
Most people are programmed to perceive reality based on what the media and social media feed to them. Many on team MAGA think it’s us against the clock, but that’s not true. The pressure is on the enemy, not us.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 16, 2020, 08:11:15 AM
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It’s thought that Democratic Party operatives working inside Philadelphia’s election office provided Merlino with crates of raw ballots just hours before polls closed on election night, which he transported to two private households in South Philadelphia. By 10 p.m. that night Merlino’s operation was already generating more than 3,000 ballots per hour, which quickly scaled to more than 6,000 ballots per hour before midnight.
But now, Merlino might just be willing to flip on Biden — in primetime Congressional testimony — if President Donald J. Trump is willing to issue the longtime mobster a full expungement of his decades-long criminal record. And, of course, Merlino wants to be pardoned for the election fraud itself and any crimes to which he may incriminate himself during his testimony.
Post by: Anthony on November 16, 2020, 08:20:25 AM
https://buffalochronicle.com/2020/11/14/exclusive-how-a-philly-mob-boss-stole-the-election-and-why-he-may-flip-on-joe-biden/
Joey Merlino aka Skinny Joey has been a Philly mob fixture for decades.
Post by: nddons on November 16, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
Call me skeptic, and I’m a huge fan of Sydney Powell. But until the actual evidence comes out, and more importantly the appropriate officials begin to act on it, I’m not getting hopes up.I’m skeptical too.
If DoJ (Barr) sides with the swamp, this goes nowhere. Remember the Hunter Biden laptop scandal?
However, in this case Sidney Powell is laying her entire reputation on the line. If this came from Rudy, I could more easily dismiss it. Coming from Powell, I’m going to take notice.
Post by: Rush on November 16, 2020, 09:13:30 AM
https://conservativehardliner.com/enemys-coup-failed-and-their-control-our-republic-slipping-away
Holy shit! Do you think this guy is right?
Sounds like he thinks the left, in desperation, will try to implement their plan of marching into the White House and physically removing the president which of course will fail because surely they don’t have all of secret service on their side, and any attempt like that will green light Trump to start arresting people and deploying the military to enforce the legal result of the election. Is that your take? Are we really 85/15 when votes are so close to 50/50? even considering the cheating? He doesn’t mean he thinks the legal popular votes are 85/15 does he? I get that the communist radicals are a small minority but there’s a huge majority of Democrats that are just ignorant, don’t understand Marxism, voting Dem because orange man bad propaganda and so on and they vote Dem.
Post by: nddons on November 16, 2020, 09:43:17 AM
First arrest.That’s not possible. There’s no evidence of voting fraud. That’s what we keep getting told. Over and over and over and over.
https://thepointnews.uk/2020/11/15/biden-campaign-director-arrested-for-electoral-fraud/
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 16, 2020, 01:44:54 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SidneyPowell1
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 16, 2020, 06:27:15 PM
If anyone doubts that we are witnessing a coup, this clinches the fact. Lies. Media lies. Trying to shove a puppet into the White House.
They were desperate for some authority figure to get them out of this. So O was called in.
Post by: Rush on November 16, 2020, 07:01:48 PM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 16, 2020, 07:02:31 PM
Suppress journalists? That’s rich.
Easy job...
Post by: Lucifer on November 16, 2020, 07:10:37 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 16, 2020, 07:11:23 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/too-many-discrepancies-clark-county-throws-out-local-election-result/
Post by: Lucifer on November 16, 2020, 08:08:07 PM
Post by: Rush on November 16, 2020, 09:30:44 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/sidney-powell-begins-to-release-the-kraken-with-mark-levin/
I think we all instinctively knew years ago when they started using computers to vote that this was going to happen. We need to go back to paper ballots.
Post by: Lucifer on November 16, 2020, 09:34:45 PM
I think we all instinctively knew years ago when they started using computers to vote that this was going to happen. We need to go back to paper ballots.
Yea, but paper ballots take so long to count......
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 16, 2020, 10:45:59 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/sidney-powell-begins-to-release-the-kraken-with-mark-levin/
The counter-argument will be that (as I understand it) there is only an affidavit from just one witness - and it relates to votes in other countries years ago, not in the U.S. in this election.
Edit to add: The other problem is that an affidavit to events for which no other proof exists don’t themselves act as proof of the event. The affidavit needs to supply some means or clue on how to establish the veracity of its claims.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 17, 2020, 06:15:12 AM
One thing about the Dominion machines. They print out a paper ballot with the choices you made on screen. This allows you to check over your choices and see them in black & white. There is also a QR code on the ballot. You take your printed ballot and insert it in the scanner (looks like a big trash bin with a device attached to the lid) and a little LCD counter advances to show your ballot was cast. The text of the printed ballot is not read, the QR code is what is scanned. It does leave a question of whether the QR code actually contains the same information the printed portion of the ballot contained. It is feasible you could change the ballot in the QR code since that is what is counted. Presumably, in a recount situation the actual printed ballot is counted.
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2020, 06:26:32 AM
The counter-argument will be that (as I understand it) there is only an affidavit from just one witness - and it relates to votes in other countries years ago, not in the U.S. in this election.
Edit to add: The other problem is that an affidavit to events for which no other proof exists don’t themselves act as proof of the event. The affidavit needs to supply some means or clue on how to establish the veracity of its claims.
So how do you know there's only one affidavit from just one witness? And how do you know no proof exist?
Post by: Rush on November 17, 2020, 06:43:39 AM
So how do you know there's only one affidavit from just one witness? And how do you know no proof exist?
She did say tons of people are coming forward, her word was “tsunami”. Of course she wasn’t referring just to this case.
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2020, 08:05:28 AM
Post by: nddons on November 17, 2020, 08:54:46 AM
Here in Georgia we are using Dominion machines. You might remember how long it took Fulton County to do the initial count yet they did the recount in a matter of a couple of days.It seems to me that our Republic is spending a shit ton of money working to fix a problem that didn’t exist, and now is causing a hundred fold problems that now do exist.
One thing about the Dominion machines. They print out a paper ballot with the choices you made on screen. This allows you to check over your choices and see them in black & white. There is also a QR code on the ballot. You take your printed ballot and insert it in the scanner (looks like a big trash bin with a device attached to the lid) and a little LCD counter advances to show your ballot was cast. The text of the printed ballot is not read, the QR code is what is scanned. It does leave a question of whether the QR code actually contains the same information the printed portion of the ballot contained. It is feasible you could change the ballot in the QR code since that is what is counted. Presumably, in a recount situation the actual printed ballot is counted.
Vote in person, show an ID, get out. If you are an out of state student, in the military, or are physically immobile, you can request an absentee ballot, with an acceptable and verifiable reason.
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2020, 09:08:19 AM
It seems to me that our Republic is spending a shit ton of money working to fix a problem that didn’t exist, and now is causing a hundred fold problems that now do exist.
Vote in person, show an ID, get out. If you are an out of state student, in the military, or are physically immobile, you can request an absentee ballot, with an acceptable and verifiable reason.
The more the system gets diluted with mail in ballots, absentee, early voting, ballot harvesting, electronic voting, etc, etc the easier it is to commit fraud.
A paper ballot and absentee paper ballots would cut down fraud. A verification of voters would go further to reduce fraud.
Don’t hold your breath that this will ever be fixed. If we see a Biden presidency it will only get worse.
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2020, 11:05:03 AM
Post by: Little Joe on November 17, 2020, 11:05:46 AM
It seems to me that our Republic is spending a shit ton of money working to fix a problem that didn’t exist, and now is causing a hundred fold problems that now do exist.Good idea, but then we will have a shit ton of blue state residents moving to red states to swamp the electorate.
Vote in person, show an ID, get out. If you are an out of state student, in the military, or are physically immobile, you can request an absentee ballot, with an acceptable and verifiable reason.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/californians-georgia-help-democrats-senate-races
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Among the most high-profile people who said they were moving to Georgia just to vote in the election is former Democratic Presidential nominee Andrew Yang.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 17, 2020, 11:37:28 AM
So how do you know there's only one affidavit from just one witness? And how do you know no proof exist?
Sidney Powell interviewed by Lou Dobbs quotes from a single affidavit. Proof could exist - it just hasn’t been presented yet.
Post by: Mr Pou on November 17, 2020, 11:47:45 AM
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/17/if-americans-can-no-longer-trust-our-elections-were-in-big-trouble/
"But if Trump loses his court challenges and recounts, his supporters aren’t going to forget about this. People are angry unlike anything this author has seen before. "
No frickin kidding. Everyone I talk to, and I mean everyone, knows the fix was in. Even left leaning people I talk to smirk uncomfortably when talking about the results of the election. People down here in the south are frothy mouth livid pissed off. Violently pissed off. This doesn't sit well, and if these pissed off people decide to get organized, well, bad things could happen.
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2020, 02:54:09 PM
https://www.inquirer.com/news/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-election-results-rudy-giuliani-hearing-case-williamsport-20201117.html
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Trump observers complained that in Philadelphia they were originally positioned between 13 feet and up to 100 feet away from counting tables and, therefore, couldn’t meaningfully see ballots as they were counted.
Lawyers for the city argued that despite claims to the contrary, GOP monitors were allowed in the room from the start and were subject to the same restrictions also applied to Democratic monitors. State law only requires that monitors be allowed in the counting rooms, they said, and makes no mention of how close counties must allow observers to get to the counting itself.
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2020, 03:00:44 PM
"But if Trump loses his court challenges and recounts, his supporters aren’t going to forget about this. People are angry unlike anything this author has seen before. "
If Trump loses his court challenges it's game over for this country, period.
Oh sure, the dims will put together a "commission" of dims and RINOs that will spend millions of our dollars and a couple of years, then come back and tell us "It's all OK, not a smidgen of corruption was found."
Each election after this in the blue states will have dims sitting on their ass and not campaigning knowing they have already won the election before the first vote is ever cast.
We will have Biden for 2 years, and then Harris for 10. Yep, a President Harris until 2032. Let that sink in for a bit.
Republicans can run, they can spend millions of dollars, but no matter who votes, it only matter on who counts the votes.
We will become North Venezuela.
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2020, 03:04:18 PM
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Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2020, 08:05:15 PM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-wayne-county-canvassers-deadlocked-2-2-election-results-not-certified/
Post by: Rush on November 18, 2020, 05:49:43 AM
And now they agree to certify
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-wayne-county-canvassers-deadlocked-2-2-election-results-not-certified/
I take this as an extremely bad sign. Someone is threatening those Republican canvassers’ children. I am convinced. Why not do that? The Dems have done every other slimy immoral criminal desperate thing.
Post by: Little Joe on November 18, 2020, 06:11:47 AM
I take this as an extremely bad sign. Someone is threatening those Republican canvassers’ children. I am convinced. Why not do that? The Dems have done every other slimy immoral criminal desperate thing.Among other things, they were threatened with being labeled racists and having to carry that label with them for the rest of their lives.
Post by: Lucifer on November 18, 2020, 06:27:37 AM
I take this as an extremely bad sign. Someone is threatening those Republican canvassers’ children. I am convinced. Why not do that? The Dems have done every other slimy immoral criminal desperate thing.
The Left's MO: "Do as your told or we will destroy you, your family and everything around you".
The left are hate merchants, pure and simple. They project their hatred constantly. They develop and operate hate groups. While they are demeaning people's First Amendment rights as "hate speech", they themselves operate a media that the CCP would be proud of.
On the voting. They are so convinced this election was clean and zero problems that they refuse to hold an honest audit of the votes. Their outright refusal to audit the vote with bipartisan participation tells everyone all they need to know.
It's far from over no matter hard the left tries to shove this through to steal the election.
Post by: Lucifer on November 18, 2020, 06:40:59 AM
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Post by: Lucifer on November 18, 2020, 08:48:36 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4f5gvx6oh9zskvf/2020-11-17%20TRO%20Motion%20with%20Exhibits.PDF?dl=0
After reading the complaint it becomes very apparent why the GA SoS is refusing to follow GA law on the recount/audit. This is borderline criminal on his part. And his usurping the law by entering into an agreement with the democrat party without going through the legislature is also very troubling.
And the GA Gov is still in hiding. What an embarrassment.
Post by: Lucifer on November 18, 2020, 09:18:39 AM
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Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 18, 2020, 08:21:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2Bs2ovDjvw&feature=emb_title
Post by: Lucifer on November 18, 2020, 08:46:03 PM
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Post by: Rush on November 19, 2020, 06:30:10 AM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/wayne-county-election-board-republicans-say-they-were-bullied-rescind
WOW!!!!! Am I reading this right? Did those two canvassers grow balls overnight? Somebody pinch me!
I told y’all they were threatening these people’s families!
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"The comments made accusations of racism and threatened me and members of my family," Palmer said in her affidavit.
Post by: Lucifer on November 19, 2020, 06:34:49 AM
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Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 19, 2020, 09:39:24 AM
https://rumble.com/vb8ksn-drop-and-roll-how-the-2020-election-was-stolen-from-donald-trump.html (https://rumble.com/vb8ksn-drop-and-roll-how-the-2020-election-was-stolen-from-donald-trump.html)Where are the printouts they used? They are not readable on the video.
Post by: Lucifer on November 19, 2020, 10:30:17 AM
Post by: Rush on November 19, 2020, 11:22:38 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 19, 2020, 11:29:53 AM
I hope you guys are listening to the news conference.
It's stunning. Watching on OAN
Post by: Mr Pou on November 19, 2020, 11:31:25 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 19, 2020, 11:35:49 AM
At work , TL;DR summary of the new conference?Lots of info to piss us off. All rumors until something can be substantiated in a court somewhere and cases won. Just my take.
Post by: Rush on November 19, 2020, 11:42:52 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 19, 2020, 11:45:46 AM
Lots of info to piss us off. All rumors until something can be substantiated in a court somewhere and cases won. Just my take.
Legally speaking they (Trump team) are 100% correct. The media is demanding they be handed the evidence right now. Trump Team is saying the evidence will be presented in a court of law.
If they handed out the evidence right now to the media, they would a) start intimidating witnesses, b) selectively editing the evidence, and c) start a massive MSM campaign to discredit the evidence.
This would also taint the evidence before the judge sees it.
I've read the complaints filed so far with evidence. It's compelling in taking the case forward.
Be patient and let them do their jobs.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 19, 2020, 11:51:41 AM
Legally speaking they (Trump team) are 100% correct. The media is demanding they be handed the evidence right now. Trump Team is saying the evidence will be presented in a court of law.
If they handed out the evidence right now to the media, they would a) start intimidating witnesses, b) selectively editing the evidence, and c) start a massive MSM campaign to discredit the evidence.
This would also taint the evidence before the judge sees it.
I've read the complaints filed so far with evidence. It's compelling in taking the case forward.
Be patient and let them do their jobs.
Plenty patient. Rush, the male one, keeps talking about the reputation Sydney Powell has and how unlikely it would be for her to put that on the line only to be made a fool.
Rush also laid out today how he believes that Obama has been the driving force behind all of this including the lock downs.
Post by: Mr Pou on November 19, 2020, 12:09:34 PM
Rush also laid out today how he believes that Obama has been the driving force behind all of this including the lock downs.
Not surprising in the least. "Fundamental transformation" and all that...
Post by: Lucifer on November 19, 2020, 12:20:40 PM
Post by: Ron22 on November 19, 2020, 12:49:26 PM
Lots of info to piss us off. All rumors until something can be substantiated in a court somewhere and cases won. Just my take.Sad but at this point that is where we are at currently So it is easy for press to say unfounded rumors.
Post by: nddons on November 19, 2020, 12:51:26 PM
Plenty patient. Rush, the male one, keeps talking about the reputation Sydney Powell has and how unlikely it would be for her to put that on the line only to be made a fool.I’ve been saying that all along about Powell. I’m glad Rush Limbaugh read my posts.
Rush also laid out today how he believes that Obama has been the driving force behind all of this including the lock downs.
I doubt she would be bluffing here.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 19, 2020, 07:50:25 PM
Sidney Powell at the press conference.
Full conference video on Conservative Treehouse.
I love what she says at the very end.
Post by: nddons on November 19, 2020, 08:34:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-lZJ6b31BMI’m watching the full 90 minute press conference now. Found it here.
Sidney Powell at the press conference.
Full conference video on Conservative Treehouse.
I love what she says at the very end.
https://brigittegabriel.com/news/full-press-conference-rudy-sidney
Post by: Mr Pou on November 20, 2020, 07:45:09 AM
It disgusts me.
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 08:37:32 AM
Unfortunately I think this is all going to end up like pissing in the ocean. Just about everyone is in on the fix, either behind it ideologically or paid off, and that includes most of the GOP. Just like many CEOs sold off our jobs for a few extra bucks, our politicians are selling off our country for a few extra bucks.
It disgusts me.
Unfortunately I agree.
If we had a real DoJ and FBI, they would be all over this, but yet, crickets. And the republicans are just too squishy and trembling in fear.
The downstream effects of letting this go is detrimental to our country in ways that is hard to imagine. If anything, the left will be even better at fraud next time from what they learned this time. The solid red states will learn also how to keep the fraud out, but the blue states will gain even more control.
Plus the blue states will keep exporting the liberal bias virus into the red states.
We are on the cusp of witnessing our last free elections, and marching towards one party rule and socialism. By 2030 this country won't be even recognizable any longer and China will be the world's superpower.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 20, 2020, 09:08:23 AM
Post by: Anthony on November 20, 2020, 09:15:47 AM
What would happen if Trump ran as a Libertarian in 2024?
He'd lose and the Republican candidate would lose. Another far left Maoist would be elected.
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 09:32:47 AM
What would happen if Trump ran as a Libertarian in 2024?
The problem is if this is not fixed now, it doesn't matter who runs on what ticket from now on. At the heart of this is election fraud and it's on steroids. They will learn from their mistakes this time and polish it in 2022, then in 2024 just sit back and predetermine elections.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 20, 2020, 09:38:03 AM
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/why-is-tucker-cucking.html
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 20, 2020, 09:44:50 AM
He'd lose and the Republican candidate would lose. Another far left Maoist would be elected.
Sadly have to concur on losing. Based on what I see on libertarian sites a fair number of Libertarians either hate him (I don’t) or would consider him unsuitable because he does not follow libertarian principles. A few do approve of his administration and actively support him.
Kristi Noem would be more appealing to many libertarians despite some of her non-libertarian positions (she was against legalization of marijuana for any purpose, and still is despite voters approving both marijuana measures on the ballot in SD this election.)
Post by: nddons on November 20, 2020, 09:47:33 AM
Why Tucker is cucking. Perfect example of how part of a story is not the whole story.I saw that and it was really disappointing. He’s an attorney and should fully understand how they are keeping their powder dry before walking into the courtroom.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/why-is-tucker-cucking.html
I never considered it was pressure from Fox, but If it was, I’d tell them to pound sand. He’s the biggest money maker in that channel.
Post by: Rush on November 20, 2020, 09:51:37 AM
The problem is if this is not fixed now, it doesn't matter who runs on what ticket from now on. At the heart of this is election fraud and it's on steroids. They will learn from their mistakes this time and polish it in 2022, then in 2024 just sit back and predetermine elections.
Just like they learned from 2016 and ramped up the cheating. The biggest lesson was that too many Trump votes broke their cheat. Now they will rig it so that even if a Republican gets 99% of the votes it will still come out 49 to 51 or better for the Dem.
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 10:11:52 AM
Why Tucker is cucking. Perfect example of how part of a story is not the whole story.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/11/why-is-tucker-cucking.html
I saw that and it was really disappointing. He’s an attorney and should fully understand how they are keeping their powder dry before walking into the courtroom.
I never considered it was pressure from Fox, but If it was, I’d tell them to pound sand. He’s the biggest money maker in that channel.
That was so beneath Tucker to do that. He knows an attorney cannot jeopardize their case by releasing evidence before going to court.
Tucker could have just left out the part of hounding Sydney and getting the reply he got, and said "If we get more info we'll let our audience know".
But what he did do was obvious. It was an underhanded attempt to discredit Sydney Powell, to place the seed of doubt into her credibility.
Also, his master (FoxNews) would give anything to get their hands on the evidence, then give it to the dims and create a narrative to destroy it.
This will and has blown up in Tucker's face. FoxNews is sinking in ratings and viewership, and he just slammed a torpedo into his show that will cost him.
NewsMax and OAN are on the rise for a reason.
(https://images.dailykos.com/images/368856/large/foxnews-globe-burning.jpg?1487642442)
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 10:13:34 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 20, 2020, 10:56:54 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 11:30:10 AM
OMG, the guy that just called Rush, what a story he had, what a call. He went to the MAGA Rally in D.C. with his 31 yr old son and said not a single Republican politician was there as part of it. He said he's tired of being stabbed in the back by Republican politicians that need us to get elected and then abandon us. The due, William, was practically in tears.
George Wallace "There ain't a dime's worth of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats."
He was right. The mainstream (establishment) republicans are disgraceful. Just look around right now at the "conservatives" that are saying the election is over and let's move on, totally ignoring the election fraud that took place.
They want their old system back. They want to stay in bed with their lobbyist keep taking donations from Big Tech and Big Corporations. And they want more wars so they can keep feeding the MIC.
Career politicians on both sides have destroyed this country. Never, ever did the founding fathers envision someone spending decades in elected office. We so desperately need term limits on all elected positions. We need to repeal the portion of the 17th amendment that allows for popular vote of the senators and put it back to the state legislatures.
Post by: Rush on November 20, 2020, 11:47:13 AM
George Wallace "There ain't a dime's worth of difference between the Republicans and the Democrats."
He was right. The mainstream (establishment) republicans are disgraceful. Just look around right now at the "conservatives" that are saying the election is over and let's move on, totally ignoring the election fraud that took place.
They want their old system back. They want to stay in bed with their lobbyist keep taking donations from Big Tech and Big Corporations. And they want more wars so they can keep feeding the MIC.
Career politicians on both sides have destroyed this country. Never, ever did the founding fathers envision someone spending decades in elected office. We so desperately need term limits on all elected positions. We need to repeal the portion of the 17th amendment that allows for popular vote of the senators and put it back to the state legislatures.
Rush said 95 % of everyday Republicans are behind Trump. He didn’t even mention the Dems that are behind Trump which are way more than we’ve been told by media. My sister is a registered Democrat and she voted for Trump.
While I’m on that subject, something that bugs the hell out of me is the cry of “disenfranchising blacks” when we accuse Dem cities of fraud. It’s the other way around, more blacks are for Trump than have been for a Republican in decades, and the cheating happened in THEIR districts- it’s the DEMS that are disenfranchising the black vote! Black votes for Trump were disproportionately discarded or flipped because the cheating happened in urban areas with high black populations. The official figure I heard was 14% of the black vote went to Trump. That does not jive with the polls that say 40% of blacks approve of Trump. Accounting for the brainwashed female blacks, the real number of black Trump votes is probably closer to 20%.
These career politicians are part of the problem. Term limits and repeal of the 17th? Not a snowball’s chance in hell. We are done for, stick a fork in us. Unfortunately the great U.S. experiment in freedom won’t even be remembered in history because of the lying media and lying academia.
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 11:52:29 AM
Unfortunately the great U.S. experiment in freedom won’t even be remembered in history because of the lying media and lying academia.
In less than 10 years our history will be scrubbed and replaced with "what a failure it all was". I could actually see the US breaking up into several smaller countries.
Post by: Anthony on November 20, 2020, 12:08:52 PM
In less than 10 years our history will be scrubbed and replaced with "what a failure it all was". I could actually see the US breaking up into several smaller countries.
Or like the Soviet Union with the big collective running roughshod over the States, and The People.
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 12:16:54 PM
Or like the Soviet Union with the big collective running roughshod over the States, and The People.
The Soviet Union collapsed, and I can actually see something similar happening here if the great steal of 2020 goes unchallenged.
To preserve the free states I could see them seceding to stop the liberal virus from infecting them.
Post by: Rush on November 20, 2020, 12:29:40 PM
The Soviet Union collapsed, and I can actually see something similar happening here if the great steal of 2020 goes unchallenged.
To preserve the free states I could see them seceding to stop the liberal virus from infecting them.
We are seriously thinking about it here in Texas. But we'd have to get it done before too many more Kommunists from Kalifornia move here.
Post by: Mr Pou on November 20, 2020, 12:33:12 PM
To preserve the free states I could see them seceding to stop the liberal virus from infecting them.
Never happen. I mean, look how scared the pussified youth are over a stronger than normal common cold. Ask young men to put down their cell phones and lattes to fight for freedom and justice? Dream on...
Sadly Rush is right, we're done. Toast. Stick a fork in it. The time to stand up for what is right is NOW, and it isn't going to happen. After another 8 years of Dems in power, it will be ingrained forever.
*spit*
Post by: Rush on November 20, 2020, 12:56:47 PM
Never happen. I mean, look how scared the pussified youth are over a stronger than normal common cold. Ask young men to put down their cell phones and lattes to fight for freedom and justice? Dream on...
Sadly Rush is right, we're done. Toast. Stick a fork in it. The time to stand up for what is right is NOW, and it isn't going to happen. After another 8 years of Dems in power, it will be ingrained forever.
*spit*
I'm afraid you're right although I think there is a portion of the population, even young ones, that are willing to bleed for it. The problem is technology is now so powerful, it would be way too easy for TPTB to cut off supply lines, hamper communication, etc. Everything is moving toward centralized totalitarian control on every front.
Post by: nddons on November 20, 2020, 01:03:43 PM
OMG, the guy that just called Rush, what a story he had, what a call. He went to the MAGA Rally in D.C. with his 31 yr old son and said not a single Republican politician was there as part of it. He said he's tired of being stabbed in the back by Republican politicians that need us to get elected and then abandon us. The due, William, was practically in tears.Heard it. The loss of liberty and freedom is emotional, and personal. It ain’t over.
We got called by our county GOP, and are going to count votes in Milwaukee on Sunday.
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 01:09:07 PM
OMG, the guy that just called Rush, what a story he had, what a call. He went to the MAGA Rally in D.C. with his 31 yr old son and said not a single Republican politician was there as part of it. He said he's tired of being stabbed in the back by Republican politicians that need us to get elected and then abandon us. The due, William, was practically in tears.
Eppy, please sign this and get as many as you can in GA to sign as well. https://stopgeorgiafraud.com/
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 01:13:34 PM
OMG, the guy that just called Rush, what a story he had, what a call. He went to the MAGA Rally in D.C. with his 31 yr old son and said not a single Republican politician was there as part of it. He said he's tired of being stabbed in the back by Republican politicians that need us to get elected and then abandon us. The due, William, was practically in tears.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/11/20/distraught-caller-speaks-for-millions-of-trump-voters-fed-up-with-republicans/
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 02:39:07 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 20, 2020, 05:19:09 PM
Post by: Rush on November 20, 2020, 05:23:53 PM
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Now, Fryar says he would go to war for Trump. He has joined the newly formed South Plains Patriots, a group of a few hundred members that includes a “reactionary” force of about three dozen - including Fryar and his son, Caleb - who conduct firearms training.
Jesus Christ dude, now the FBI’s going to be all over your ass. What the hell is he doing talking to the news?!
If Biden succeeds in this takeover, anyone who talked like that is going to be charged with conspiracy to commit insurrection.
Exactly what the Democrats are actually doing.
Post by: nddons on November 20, 2020, 05:48:55 PM
This is FUCKING EXACTLY HOW I FEEL.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/11/20/distraught-caller-speaks-for-millions-of-trump-voters-fed-up-with-republicans/
Post by: Lucifer on November 20, 2020, 05:54:24 PM
Post by: Number7 on November 20, 2020, 06:55:45 PM
Post by: Rush on November 20, 2020, 08:07:44 PM
I'm not opposed to the peaceful - lawful transition of power every four years, but when the fucking Venezuelan and soros backed communists and criminals seize the apparatus and simply declare whomever they choose for president, I think a civil way is not only justified but necessary.
My thoughts exactly.
Post by: Mr Pou on November 21, 2020, 05:21:39 AM
No good solutions.
Post by: Lucifer on November 21, 2020, 06:03:25 AM
Post by: Rush on November 21, 2020, 06:19:48 AM
And that outcome would play into their hands as well. Divided we fall.
No good solutions.
We are in a situation where no matter which gets inaugurated on Jan 21, the losing side will see the government as illegitimate. Think of that: an illegitimate coup, a stolen election, no matter which way this goes. The losing side will see themselves as the “real” government, and therefore justified in taking extreme measures to “take it back”. The winning side will feel justified in using any means necessary to suppress the other. It will get very ugly.
The only way to prevent this is for the whole country to accept the election result as valid. But there is no scenario in which that can happen. If Biden takes office, our half knows for fact that the Dems cheated. If Trump wins, most of the half that voted Dem will never believe the evidence was real, even if the proof is obvious. The media will continue to lie and it will be explained away as a conservative plot by whatever Republicans are involved in the decision. Only the many Dem operatives will know the truth and they feel morally justified to cheat. They imagine themselves taking down “Hitler”.
Within the government itself there is an irreconcilable divide, within all the agencies, the IC, the military, etc. The only thing keeping the Federal government stable is that they accept that the occupant of the Oval Office is legitimate. Starting now, that is no longer possible.
There’s no way out of this except through it.
Post by: Rush on November 21, 2020, 06:28:41 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1329929516152664065
He’s right, but we already had an investigation of whether vote machines can be hacked, it was pretty thorough and enlightening and I posted it here, it’s the John Oliver video. Too bad our so-called journalists are suddenly oblivious to that since Nov 3.
Post by: Lucifer on November 21, 2020, 06:48:37 AM
We are in a situation where no matter which gets inaugurated on Jan 21, the losing side will see the government as illegitimate. Think of that: an illegitimate coup, a stolen election, no matter which way this goes. The losing side will see themselves as the “real” government, and therefore justified in taking extreme measures to “take it back”. The winning side will feel justified in using any means necessary to suppress the other. It will get very ugly.
The only way to prevent this is for the whole country to accept the election result as valid. But there is no scenario in which that can happen. If Biden takes office, our half knows for fact that the Dems cheated. If Trump wins, most of the half that voted Dem will never believe the evidence was real, even if the proof is obvious. The media will continue to lie and it will be explained away as a conservative plot by whatever Republicans are involved in the decision. Only the many Dem operatives will know the truth and they feel morally justified to cheat. They imagine themselves taking down “Hitler”.
Within the government itself there is an irreconcilable divide, within all the agencies, the IC, the military, etc. The only thing keeping the Federal government stable is that they accept that the occupant of the Oval Office is legitimate. Starting now, that is no longer possible.
There’s no way out of this except through it.
Here's my take.
We do not have a 50/50 split in this country. I would think it's more like 70/30 or even 80/20 favoring the people who know this election was rigged. Some recent polling bears this out.
The radical leftist are not a majority, and have never been. This is another myth. The perception that the radical leftist are an overwhelming majority is because they now control the MSM and the DNC.
History has shown, over and over, that when a tyrannical regime takes over it's typically a small group (compared to the population). What we are witnessing in this country are the exact same tactics that's been used for over a 100 years around the world. Exactly the same.
The tyrants begin by gaining control of segments one by one. Education is key, media is key. Healthcare is another key. Then they begin getting their own into various government agencies, what is typically called "weaponization". Using someone's own laws and rules against them is key. Sound familiar?
Next start working the radicals into local elections. These lower elected officials start making a lot of noise, which in turn gets lots of media attention, which in turn begins swaying public perception and creates the myth that the movement is huge.
Another technique used is to crash the current system and replace it with their own. Why do you think the radicals in congress keep wanting to hand out more and more money from the government? It's unsustainable and will create a crash.
The next technique? Create an enemy that only they can define and see, and control. Covid is perfect. They control the information (and disinformation) on it, it creates fear and it has been proven to be extremely effective in control.
All of this has been used and repeated with every overthrow. There are more points, but I think you see the picture. Again, we are not dealing with a huge part of the country.
The way to defeat these tyrannical leftist? Expose them, stand up to them and fight back.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 21, 2020, 07:03:11 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 21, 2020, 07:16:46 AM
Did they bother faking exit polls this year, or just drop them because they’d come out in a or of President Trump? We haven’t seen any exit polls, and usually they’re quite prolific. Probably they would point also to Trump’s rise with blacks and Latinos.
The leftist knew there was going to be a landslide election for Trump, it was obvious. Campaigns don't rely on fake polls, they use their own internal polling which is highly accurate. The dims knew they were in for a epic failure. Yet, the progressive leftist knew that their effort to overthrow the country would be setback another decade in the wake of the American people rejecting them.
Bill O'Reilly had a piece on his site that he is predicting a major collapse of the cable news industry coming, and we are already seeing it. This is mainly due to the American people finally rejecting the highly partisan MSM. Remember, first and foremost, the MSM is a business, and business needs revenue to operate. They are hemorrhaging money right now with massive layoffs, shut downs and even CNN is for sale. FoxNews, once number one in ratings, is now below MSNBC, and MSNBC has a smaller audience than PBS.
This is why you are seeing the leftist freaking out over the rise of NewsMax, OAN, Parlor, The Blaze, etc. How hypocritical is it when FaceBook and Twitter come out against these news sources and deem them "a danger to our democracy"?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 21, 2020, 07:21:26 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 21, 2020, 07:31:09 AM
I might posit that the mainstream media (which Giuliani is calling “Biden’s narrative engineers) don’t need to make a profit because they’re funded by big corporations and shadow organizations and corruption kings and other entities raking in trillions from the leftist march to total domination.
While they do receive funding from those groups, they are not 100% funded. If they were, then it becomes obvious they are not a news source and now several other things begin to kick in with regards to FCC, FEC and various laws and regulations.
News divisions of CBS, NBC and ABC as example do not make their networks any money, in fact they are money losers for them. Their income is derived from entertainment. CNN has been a huge money pit for AT&T, hence why they have had cut backs and layoffs and are now on the chopping block.
The leftist don't want to own a news network, they want to control them instead. If we've learned anything it's leftist like using other people's money.
Post by: Anthony on November 21, 2020, 08:23:18 AM
I might posit that the mainstream media (which Giuliani is calling “Biden’s narrative engineers) don’t need to make a profit because they’re funded by big corporations and shadow organizations and corruption kings and other entities raking in trillions from the leftist march to total domination.
Precisely. They don't need to make money. The can afford to be a far left megaphone.
Post by: Lucifer on November 21, 2020, 08:39:08 AM
Precisely. They don't need to make money. The can afford to be a far left megaphone.
Leftist have an affinity for other people's money. Just look at the terrible condition that CNN and other leftist media outlets are in. In the typical ideology of the leftist, they want you to fund their projects. Media is no different.
Post by: Rush on November 21, 2020, 09:00:28 AM
We do not have a 50/50 split in this country. I would think it's more like 70/30 or even 80/20 favoring the people who know this election was rigged.
Would you believe me if I told you that when I said “half” the country, I was actually hoping for a rebuttal?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 21, 2020, 09:31:29 AM
The GOP is dead if they don’t get on board fighting fraud. Going forward, Trump’s supporters will not waver in their support of him, wherever he goes.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/20/you-are-not-alone/
Post by: Lucifer on November 21, 2020, 09:56:21 AM
More than half indeed.
The GOP is dead if they don’t get on board fighting fraud. Going forward, Trump’s supporters will not waver in their support of him, wherever he goes.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/20/you-are-not-alone/
The establishment republicans aren’t going to lift a finger. They, like their dim counterparts, only want your vote. Once they have that, you can pound sand until next election.
The Republican Party is dead, they just don’t know it yet.
Post by: Number7 on November 21, 2020, 03:39:04 PM
https://redstate.com/beccalower/2020/11/20/georgia-sos-announcement-certifying-election-n282794
The dominion voting system is going to be the undoing of far left for at least a generation. Nobody is going to be willing believe a single thing progressives claim and it will get worse before it gets better.
Sydney Powell said today that the DOJ is going to have to offer protection for witnesses against the democrat corruption machine as their testimony breaks. I tend to believe her.
I suspect that The grifter and the tramp are not going to ascend to the White House.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/21/sidney-powell-whistleblowers-may-need-witness-protection-after-their-allegations-are-brought-to-light-n2580467
Fuck them both and all their enablers and co-conspirators.
Post by: Lucifer on November 21, 2020, 05:08:27 PM
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Post by: Lucifer on November 22, 2020, 02:24:59 PM
Post by: Rush on November 22, 2020, 02:35:34 PM
So via Wikileaks we now know the CIA used a hacking program named “Kraken”.
The CIA is way more evil than the NSA. In fact, I bet the NSA is livid right about now.
Post by: Lucifer on November 22, 2020, 02:40:06 PM
The CIA is way more evil than the NSA. In fact, I bet the NSA is livid right about now.
https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/kraken-is-a-cia-hacking-program.html/
Post by: Rush on November 22, 2020, 02:50:36 PM
https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/kraken-is-a-cia-hacking-program.html/
Yep, that’s what I’m talking about.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 22, 2020, 03:04:48 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 22, 2020, 03:26:35 PM
More and more Republicans are turning against Trump. Rudy and crew were made to look pretty bad in PA. They better come up with a blockbuster soon.
They’ve always been against him.
Lots of folks (both sides) are starting to get real nervous. This thing is about to explode.
The Kraken reference now explains why John Brennan has been acting so bizarre.
Post by: Rush on November 22, 2020, 05:21:15 PM
They’ve always been against him.
Lots of folks (both sides) are starting to get real nervous. This thing is about to explode.
The Kraken reference now explains why John Brennan has been acting so bizarre.
Puts the Russian interference thing in a whole new light. Create a fake story over Hillary’s emails being linked to Trump, when the CIA itself is hacking our fucking voting machines! Brennan has been a communist from the start - quite literally. And yet the CIA still hired him.
Post by: Lucifer on November 22, 2020, 05:30:42 PM
Puts the Russian interference thing in a whole new light. Create a fake story over Hillary’s emails being linked to Trump, when the CIA itself is hacking our fucking voting machines! Brennan has been a communist from the start - quite literally. And yet theCIABarack Obama still hired him.
FTFY
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 22, 2020, 05:55:50 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 22, 2020, 06:50:53 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 23, 2020, 06:42:17 AM
Trump has 70+ million voters behind him. Time to declare the republicans has the losers they are known to be a form a new party. Totally defund the RNC and leave it to the Romneys, Sasses and other RINOs and let them wither away.
The RNC will become a distant third party overnight, much like the Libertarian party.
Post by: Rush on November 23, 2020, 07:09:22 AM
After the election is over regardless of a Trump win, it's time to let the air out of the RNC.
Trump has 70+ million voters behind him. Time to declare the republicans has the losers they are known to be a form a new party. Totally defund the RNC and leave it to the Romneys, Sasses and other RINOs and let them wither away.
The RNC will become a distant third party overnight, much like the Libertarian party.
I agree with this plan. I understand that the fear is a Trump party will be like the libertarians, just a drain from the right side that will allow the Democrats to win, but I don’t think so and here is why; unlike other third parties, it won’t be formed from an ideological core of minority thinkers, but a widespread popular uprising. It will be the Trump portion of the entire Republican Party, which is what? 80% now at least? PLUS the Dem walkaways, and very possibly a portion of libertarians. Many upcoming youth, disillusioned with the traditional two parties and not at all dependent on cable news, may also go with the new party. Gay walkaways will go with it rather than stay with what they perceive as the historically socially conservative Republican Party and blacks also are leaving the Dems because of Trump, not because they suddenly decided they like Republicans.
The problem is that if election fraud isn’t fixed, none of that will matter. All parties except the Dem (communist) will be irrelevant.
Post by: Lucifer on November 23, 2020, 07:12:59 AM
Post by: nddons on November 23, 2020, 10:32:59 AM
After the election is over regardless of a Trump win, it's time to let the air out of the RNC.I think this is a possibility. I’ve heard it before. The key is if Trump stays involved and helps shape this new party. If he does, it’s possible. If he doesn’t, then there will be disparate people scrambling to fill the power void that will inevitably exist, and the Trump movement will die out like the Tea Party.
Trump has 70+ million voters behind him. Time to declare the republicans has the losers they are known to be a form a new party. Totally defund the RNC and leave it to the Romneys, Sasses and other RINOs and let them wither away.
The RNC will become a distant third party overnight, much like the Libertarian party.
Not that there aren’t millions of us Tea Partiers, and tens of million Trump followers. However, if the movement gets diluted with different warring factions, it will die a quick death, and we will remain Republicans who have to hold our noses and vote red.
The thought of that makes me want to vomit.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 23, 2020, 10:47:43 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 23, 2020, 11:15:36 AM
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On the evening of election day, November 7, 1876, the infamous civil war General, Daniel Sickles, circled by the Republican National Headquarters in DC after attending the theater, to check the election results. The headquarters were vacant. The election was all but over and both candidates assumed Samuel Tilden, the Democrat, had won. Tilden had secured 184 of the needed 185 electoral votes. The only states left to report – South Carolina, Florida, and Louisiana, were certainly to go Democrat. Sickles, who was no stranger to brass knuckle politics, learning the ropes from the Tammany Hall machine in New York, concocted a plan on the spot. He telegraphed the Republican governors (they were Republican governors due to reconstruction) in SC, FL, and LA and told them never to concede and fight for Rutherford B. Hayes. He signed the telegraph not with his name but the name of the Republican National chairman. Two of the governors immediately sprang into action, the third was hesitant, suggesting he would if federal troops were provided. Sickles sent him troops. What happened over the next three months is the darkest chapter in our presidential election history. The Electoral college could not determine a winner on December 7, nor could Congress. On January 29, 1877, Congress created an Electoral Commission of 15 people. Five from the House, five from the Senate, and five from the Supreme Court. The panel consisted of 7 Republicans and 7 Democrats and one who was supposedly neutral. However, the neutral party resigned and was replaced by a Republican. After weeks of debate and discussion a backroom deal was cut. The leaders of the Democrats agreed to concede if the Republicans would end reconstruction. The Republicans accepted these terms, known as the Compromise of 1877, and Ruther B. Hayes became our 18th president by a vote of 8-7 from the Electoral Commission. The vote was conducted three days before the presidential inauguration on March 5, 1877. (Presidential terms started later prior to Eisenhower.)
Comparing this election, as well as 2000, to our current situation is insightful. In 1876 the fraud involved three states, three months, and the plan was devised on the spur of the moment. In 2000, the litigation involved one state, Florida, and basically only one county of that state: Miami-Dade. The 2000 process took 35 days. In this election year, the alleged fraud occurred in as many as 30 states. It was a well-orchestrated conspiracy that involved multiple fronts. It will take time to make this case properly.
Regardless of who you want to be president, the public must have confidence in its voting results. I would hope that the American public would never accept a proven fraudulent election result just so their candidate can “win.” If fraud is allowed in our elections, the will of the people will become irrelevant. Winners will be determined not by the will of the people but rather by the party that cheats the best.
Post by: Lucifer on November 23, 2020, 12:51:34 PM
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President Trump's campaign said it scored two victories Monday in its effort to contest results in several key battleground states, as Michigan state legislators agreed to hold a hearing into election irregularities while a federal appeals court expedited proceedings to consider Trump's legal challenge in Pennsylvania.
The developments were announced by Trump campaign senior legal counsel Jenna Ellis, who said the GOP-led Michigan House would hold its hearing at 9 a.m. on Wednesday.
"We are grateful to Michigan House lawmakers for not rushing to certify inaccurate election results," Ellis told Just the News. "We are confident they will share the same concerns once they see the extent of the outright fraud and disregard for the law that happened in Michigan and across the nation. Every American should want to know the truth."
Michigan House Speaker Lee Chatfield, who over the weekend said he feared the state was heading toward a constitutional crisis, did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
Post by: Lucifer on November 23, 2020, 03:50:49 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2020, 01:25:29 PM
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The national conservative group Amistad Project filed an emergency petition Tuesday with the Wisconsin Supreme Court challenging the state’s unofficial results in the 2020 presidential election, saying it has identified over 150,000 potentially fraudulent ballots.
Results from the Nov. 3 balloting in the state show Democratic candidate Joe Biden defeated President Trump by a roughly 20,000-vote margin.
Phill Kline, director of the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society, said the number of potentially fraudulent ballots identified are “more than enough to call into question the validity of the state’s reported election results.”
“Moreover, these discrepancies were a direct result of Wisconsin election officials’ willful violation of state law,” he also said.
Several major news outlets have declared Biden the winner of the presidential race, as Trump and his legal team continue to challenge results in key states.
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2020, 02:22:52 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2020, 02:31:56 PM
What are the odds...............
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2020, 05:14:28 PM
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President Trump's campaign legal team announced Tuesday that the legislatures in Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania will soon hold election-related hearings.
They will be held "in an effort to provide confidence that all of the legal votes have been counted and the illegal votes have not been counted in the November 3rd election," according to a press release.
The Pennsylvania Senate will hold a hearing on Wednesday at which Rudy Giuliani will speak, the team said. Senators involved in the hearing will deliver 5-minute opening statements and people who have filed affidavits alleging election fraud will deliver testimony.
Next week, the Arizona legislature's hearing will occur on Monday and the Michigan legislature's hearing will take place Tuesday.
"State Legislatures are uniquely qualified and positioned to hold hearings on election irregularities and fraud before electors are chosen," the press release said. "As established in Article 2, Section 1.2 of the United States Constitution, State Legislatures have the sole authority to select their representatives to the Electoral College, providing a critical safeguard against voter fraud and election manipulation."
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2020, 05:25:40 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2020, 05:47:06 PM
https://www.westernjournal.com/wj-live-az-rep-guaran-damn-tees-election-will-change-monday-morning-9/
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 25, 2020, 05:35:25 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 25, 2020, 06:05:05 AM
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fs3tKtmiEA&fbclid=IwAR1mi9mivFhvyUdVeEx5lFjcYKmNDXa1uZCtMl1uE6KHS3Z_1iE8cDaS8oc)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 25, 2020, 06:06:15 AM
Patrick Byrne's website
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 07:24:09 AM
Post by: bflynn on November 25, 2020, 07:37:23 AM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/nevada-judge-agrees-hear-trump-campaign-evidence-alleged-voter-fraud
Interesting.
I'm still waiting to hear the evidence about the voter fraud.
The only thing I've read so far was in New York State where they seem completely incompetent in conducting an election.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 08:00:44 AM
Interesting.
I'm still waiting to hear the evidence about the voter fraud.
The only thing I've read so far was in New York State where they seem completely incompetent in conducting an election.
Anyone with a search engine and wants to devote some time reading can find it. The court case findings have affidavits with attachments dealing with fraud, all in the public domain. Several well respected individuals in the mathematics/statistical analysis field have written extremely detailed papers on the anomalies with the vote counting that place serious doubt. In one paper it was shown the speed the voting tabulation could take place, but yet somehow the machine was counting votes at over 5 times faster than what the machine was designed for.
Polling places intermingling questionable votes with votes that were placed legally, envelopes being destroyed, poll workers refusing to allow poll watchers view the recount, polling locations shredding ballots and envelopes in lieu of the law requiring them to be keep for two years, etc, etc, etc.
Hearings are scheduled before the state legislatures in PA, MI, WI, AZ and NV to present evidence, and several court cases going forward with evidence.
But yea, the MSM says "There's no evidence, move along".
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 25, 2020, 08:47:22 AM
Interesting.
I'm still waiting to hear the evidence about the voter fraud.
The only thing I've read so far was in New York State where they seem completely incompetent in conducting an election.
What does your gut say about the likelihood Presidential candidate that spent the majority of his time in his basement, made very few appearances anywhere and most of those were in front of six chosen media people getting 80 million votes?
Meanwhile the candidate that was doing five rallies a day with multiple thousands of supporters showing up, many of whom could not get into the venue lost.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 08:54:02 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/24/conservative-organization-files-a-swing-state-lawsuit-over-150-000-allegedly-frau-n2580632
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Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 09:39:12 AM
https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 09:42:25 AM
Post by: bflynn on November 25, 2020, 10:24:57 AM
Yea, "no evidence of voter fraud".................
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/24/conservative-organization-files-a-swing-state-lawsuit-over-150-000-allegedly-frau-n2580632
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Enn74GIUwAE2d39?format=png&name=small)
For the umpteenth time, allegations are not evidence. Courts are not places to investigate, they are places to present facts.
Evidence would be names with specific evidence for each showing why they were not eligible to vote.
But what then? Do you think a judge is going to throw out a certified election, even if it was certified for the wrong person?
Additionally, these things are not even necessarily illegal. If someone was absent from the state, their ballot SHOULD come from another state, shouldn’t it?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 25, 2020, 10:35:18 AM
For the umpteenth time, allegations are not evidence. Courts are not places to investigate, they are places to present facts.We get your excited that Biden won. That still doesn't mean that shit didn't take place. All you're doing is repeating the current leftist talking points.
Evidence would be names with specific evidence for each showing why they were not eligible to vote.
But what then? Do you think a judge is going to throw out a certified election, even if it was certified for the wrong person?
Additionally, these things are not even necessarily illegal. If someone was absent from the state, their ballot SHOULD come from another state, shouldn’t it?
Is it likely to change the outcome, no. It could get some state results set aside that would leave it up state legislatures to decide who their electors will actually go to.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 10:38:49 AM
For the umpteenth time, allegations are not evidence. Courts are not places to investigate, they are places to present facts.
What is the level of the burden of proof that must be shown in the court? And are you stating that sworn affidavits are not admissible as evidence?
Evidence would be names with specific evidence for each showing why they were not eligible to vote.
Not at this level. Right now the plaintiffs only need to show a preponderance of the evidence in order to get a judge to rule.
But what then? Do you think a judge is going to throw out a certified election, even if it was certified for the wrong person?
That's not even close to what's going on. Show me where in the current filings it says "throw out a certified election" as relief to the complaints.
Apparently you've not read any of the complaints and filings and have a minimal understanding of what's going on.
Additionally, these things are not even necessarily illegal. If someone was absent from the state, their ballot SHOULD come from another state, shouldn’t it?
That's not mentioned in the 6 items. Apparently you are having difficulty understanding the allegations.
1. Requesting a ballot in the name of a voter by someone other than that person is illegal by Wisc law.
2. Not counting legal votes is a violation of the constitution equal protection clause.
3. Voting outside of precinct. Illegal under Wisc law
4. Abuse of Wisc voter laws
5. Illegal in Wisc law
6. Illegal in Wisc law
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Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 25, 2020, 10:42:14 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 10:42:23 AM
Judge Blocks Certification of Pennsylvania Election Results
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(November 25, 2020, 12:18 PM EST) — A Pennsylvania judge has ordered the state to temporarily pause further action on certifying its 2020 election results until Friday, when her court will hold a hearing on a lawsuit seeking to declare all mail-in votes in the Keystone State unconstitutional.
Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia A. McCullough entered a preliminary order Wednesday granting an evidentiary hearing on a lawsuit brought by Republican Congress member Mike Kelly, candidates Sean Parnell and Wanda Logan and five additional voters, who say Pennsylvania’s October 2019 expansion of “no-excuse” mail-in voting violated the state constitution’s limits on who can cast an absentee ballot. Judge McCullough’s order said the state, which certified its election results for President-elect Joe Biden on Tuesday, should halt any further steps toward finalizing the results or revising its vote count.
“To the extent that there remains any further action to perfect the certification of the results of the 2020 General Election … for the offices of president and vice president of the United States of America, respondents are preliminarily enjoined from doing so, pending an evidentiary hearing to be held on Friday, November 27, 2020,” the judge’s order said. “Inasmuch as respondents, based on their press release and briefs, have not undertaken certification of any of the other results of the election, respondents are preliminarily enjoined from certifying the remaining results of the election, pending the evidentiary hearing.”
Attorneys for the state and the Republican-majority legislature that had passed the expanded voting bill argued in briefs that the challengers’ requested relief of halting certification was too late, but the challengers filed a supplemental application for emergency relief late Tuesday night that laid out other steps in formalizing the election that the court could stop, up to and including an injunction stopping electors from meeting in Harrisburg in December.
“Should it be absolutely necessary, in order for this court to be empowered to provide adequate relief, petitioners may seek for leave from this court to join the slate of presidential and vice presidential electors as additional respondents in this action, and move to enjoin them from taking certain action,’ the petition said. “Because the electors, by law, must perform their duties at the ‘seat of government of this Commonwealth,’ this court may also enjoin respondents from permitting the electors to assemble at such location.”
The lawsuit seeks to declare the expansion of mail-in voting unconstitutional and to void those ballots cast in the 2020 election, or to have the state’s legislature choose who won Pennsylvania.
The plaintiffs alleged that Pennsylvania’s vote-by-mail stature—Act 77—is in violation of the state’s constitution.
“Act 77 is the most expansive and fundamental change to the Pennsylvania voting code, implemented illegally, to date,” the lawsuit, filed in the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania, states.
“As with prior historical attempts to illegally expand mail-in voting by statute, which have been struck down going as far back as the Military Absentee Ballot Act of 1839, Act 77 is another illegal attempt to override the limitations on absentee voting prescribed in the Pennsylvania Constitution, without first following the necessary procedure to amend the constitution to allow for the expansion.”
The plaintiffs include Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.), Republican congressional candidate Sean Parnell, and Pennsylvania House of Representatives candidate Wanda Logan.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 25, 2020, 10:43:44 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 25, 2020, 10:52:32 AM
For the umpteenth time, allegations are not evidence. Courts are not places to investigate, they are places to present facts.
Evidence would be names with specific evidence for each showing why they were not eligible to vote.
But what then? Do you think a judge is going to throw out a certified election, even if it was certified for the wrong person?
Additionally, these things are not even necessarily illegal. If someone was absent from the state, their ballot SHOULD come from another state, shouldn’t it?
and Courts are the place to present evidence, not the newspapers, not the interweb.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 10:56:52 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 11:06:28 AM
Numbers are not making sense.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/watch-live-pennsylvania-senate-hearing/
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 25, 2020, 11:18:51 AM
https://www.pljohnstonlaw.com/2014/11/10/common-legal-question-can-i-present-an-affidavit-as-evidence-at-trial/ (https://www.pljohnstonlaw.com/2014/11/10/common-legal-question-can-i-present-an-affidavit-as-evidence-at-trial/)
“A very common question that many laypeople have is whether an affidavit can be presented in court as evidence in a trial. Yes, affidavits are sworn, notarized statements and that gives at least an appearance of being truthful. And, getting a witness to come to court testify may be an imposition on that witness. However, the United States Constitution and the long, established precedent of the English common law upon which American law is based, guarantees parties to litigation the right to confront and cross examine all of the witnesses against them. Cross examination entails the ability of your lawyer to ask questions of the witness testifying against you to probe the truthfulness, reliability and believability of that witness. It would be pretty hard to do that with a piece of paper, right? For that reason, courts do not allow affidavits to be presented as evidence in a legal proceeding.
Having said that, there are occasionally exceptions to this rule. In some small claims courts, the rules of that particular court may allow affidavits but usually just for the very limited purpose of affirming that other documents being submitted such as repair bills and medical records, reports and bills are true and correct. This exception is for purposes of what’s called judicial economy, or making cases go faster, and in consideration of the reality that in small claims cases, massive sums of money are not usually at stake. Furthermore, the losing party in a small claims case often can appeal to a higher court for a new trial in which the parties will not be afforded the ability to present affidavits as evidence. Another exception is in criminal preliminary hearings in Pennsylvania when the district attorney is permitted to present affidavits of some crime victims—in particular theft victims—in seeking to establish that sufficient evidence can be raised to permit the case to go to trial, not whether or not the defendant is actually guilty. Again, however, at the trial where guilt or lack thereof is decided, those affidavits are not permitted at trial and the individuals would need to come to court to testify in person.“
So at a guess, all the affidavits may be good for is the judicial determination whether the alleged case goes to trial.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 11:22:47 AM
So at a guess, all the affidavits may be good for is the judicial determination whether the alleged case goes to trial.
Exactly. Preponderance of the evidence.
The people who signed the affidavits may be open to deposition, examination and cross examination.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 11:46:44 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 01:23:10 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 02:49:59 PM
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1331678008210464768
Post by: Ron22 on November 25, 2020, 03:08:06 PM
In the PA hearing going on right now Giuliani just listed the allegations, and it's an eye opener.Real question will anything happen now?
Numbers are not making sense.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/watch-live-pennsylvania-senate-hearing/
Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 03:19:00 PM
Real question will anything happen now?
Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
That's up to the PA legislature, on one side. There are still court cases pending.
I would suspect the legislature will wait to see the outcome of the court challenge, then make their move afterwards.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 04:42:50 PM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/amistad-project-files-lawsuit-disputing-georgia-election-results
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Post by: Ron22 on November 25, 2020, 04:55:23 PM
That's up to the PA legislature, on one side. There are still court cases pending.They are hoping something happens with the courts. That way they do not have do do anything.
I would suspect the legislature will wait to see the outcome of the court challenge, then make their move afterwards.
I have ZERO faith in the PA legislature if it comes down to them.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 05:03:36 PM
They are hoping something happens with the courts. That way they do not have do do anything.
I have ZERO faith in the PA legislature if it comes down to them.
So, if the courts hand down a decision that the PA SC and Gov acted in violation of the constitution, the legislature has to make a decision.
They can only take ballots that followed their law as written. That would require a massive vote audit. We've already heard that several USB drives with vote information have disappeared. Also many many votes will have to be examined and matched up with real voters.
In other words, a real clusterfuck to try to unwind. So now, under the constitution, the legislature can invalidate the election and assign the electors. You can imagine the shit storm this will create.
Their way out? Invalidate the election and refuse to appoint electors. This is where I believe this is headed.
Post by: Ron22 on November 25, 2020, 05:30:28 PM
Their way out? Invalidate the election and refuse to appoint electors. This is where I believe this is headed.
Not that they care about the constitution, but I believe “shall” means they have to.
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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 05:49:39 PM
Not that they care about the constitution, but I believe “shall” means they have to.
Electors are appointed well in advance of an election. Each party picks who they want for electors to represent them if their party wins. That's what that section refers to.
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Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
Take a look at the second part of that sentence" in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct". This is what gives the legislature the power to determine how they may proceed.
See the elections of 1800 and 1824, and also the election of 1876.
IMO this election is going to be settled in Congress.
Post by: Rush on November 25, 2020, 05:58:02 PM
https://twitter.com/PhillDKline/status/1331714169536737280
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/amistad-project-files-lawsuit-disputing-georgia-election-results
The second link has vanished.
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 06:07:10 PM
The second link has vanished.
Not sure why John Solomon took that down.
I found this:
https://techtodaynewspaper.com/amistad-project-files-litigation-calling-more-than-200000-georgia-ballots-into-question/
https://www.dcpresswire.com/2020/11/25/amistad-project-files-litigation-calling-more-than-200000-georgia-ballots-into-question/
https://newsdeli.com/2020/11/25/amistad-project-files-litigation-calling-more-than-200000-georgia-ballots-into-question/
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 25, 2020, 06:08:42 PM
The second link has vanished.
Maybe this is the same story?:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/legal-group-files-litigation-questioning-more-200000-georgia-ballots (https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/legal-group-files-litigation-questioning-more-200000-georgia-ballots)
Post by: Rush on November 25, 2020, 06:20:13 PM
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/judge-orders-pennsylvania-officials-stop-certification-state-election-results
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
Did this just happen?
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/judge-orders-pennsylvania-officials-stop-certification-state-election-results
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-judge-blocks-certification-of-pennsylvania-election-results/
Judge Blocks Certification of Pennsylvania Election Results
Post by: Rush on November 25, 2020, 07:11:36 PM
I’m optimistic again. This is worse than a roller coaster. It’s like alternating between the top of Mt Everest and the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 25, 2020, 07:16:09 PM
I’m optimistic again. This is worse than a roller coaster. It’s like alternating between the top of Mt Everest and the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
more like a top-notch steak and the foulest stench...
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2020, 07:24:46 PM
I’m optimistic again. This is worse than a roller coaster. It’s like alternating between the top of Mt Everest and the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
Hang tight. I find it fascinating.
We are witnessing history. We had it happen in 1800, 1824, 1826 and 2000.
The dims got too exuberant in their election heist, and were sloppy leaving evidence laying around.
The Rule of Law will prevail.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 25, 2020, 07:55:44 PM
Not that they care about the constitution, but I believe “shall” means they have to.
Laws only apply to the law abiding Little People.
Post by: Lucifer on November 26, 2020, 06:01:28 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 26, 2020, 06:04:51 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 26, 2020, 06:29:48 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 26, 2020, 08:36:22 AM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1331972026114990081
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 26, 2020, 08:47:03 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 26, 2020, 01:49:52 PM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 27, 2020, 06:48:29 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2020, 09:08:49 AM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/201127-Electoral-Map-600x427.jpg)
Post by: Rush on November 27, 2020, 09:24:42 AM
For those who care, here is the actual election as it stands today
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/201127-Electoral-Map-600x427.jpg)
Correct. A couple of days ago I emailed that map to my kids and niece along with a description of the process happening now in real time that may possibly result in a Trump win, and admonishments to get ready for war. None of them responded. I don’t know if I scared them, they think I’m insane, or Google intercepted the messages out of their gmail accounts.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 27, 2020, 09:34:01 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2020, 09:38:42 AM
wait.... but everyone is calling gropin' joe our next president. Even Time rag has gropin' joe on the cover and labelling him the 46th President.
Rereading the constitution trying to locate the "MSM calls the presidential election" clause...........
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 27, 2020, 09:40:19 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2020, 09:41:46 AM
I'm sure President Dewey can help you find it
Congratulations President Elect Noel!
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 27, 2020, 09:43:21 AM
Congratulations President Elect Noel!
And right back at you President-Elect Lucifer!
Post by: Rush on November 27, 2020, 01:23:49 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1332406761123241984
Post by: Number7 on November 27, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
PA is going to the SC:That will give john fucking roberts another chance to suck off the libs.
https://mobile.twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1332406761123241984
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2020, 02:18:40 PM
PA is going to the SC:
https://mobile.twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1332406761123241984
This is good news.
Post by: Rush on November 27, 2020, 02:44:38 PM
I hope he’s right, looks good in WI at the moment....
Skip to 2 mins to start
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2020, 04:11:54 PM
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A RESOLUTION
Declaring the results of statewide electoral contests in the 2020 General Election to be in dispute.
WHEREAS, Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution empowers state legislatures, including the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, to prescribe the “Times, Places, and Manner” of conducting elections; and
WHEREAS, Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution empowers state legislatures, including the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, to direct the manner of appointing electors for President and Vice President of the United States; and
WHEREAS, the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has exercised its authority to establish election administration procedures for the Commonwealth, known as the Pennsylvania Election Code; and
WHEREAS, the Pennsylvania Election Code requires all mail-in ballots to be received by eight o’clock P.M. on the day of the election; and
WHEREAS, the Pennsylvania Election Code requires election officials at polling places to authenticate the signatures of in-person voters; and
WHEREAS, the Pennsylvania Election Code requires that county boards of elections shall not meet to conduct a pre-canvass of all absentee and mail-in ballots until seven o’clock A.M. on Election Day, during which time defects on mail-in ballots would be identified; and
WHEREAS, the Pennsylvania Election Code prohibits the counting of defective absentee or mail-in ballots; and
WHEREAS, the Pennsylvania Election Code authorizes “watchers,” selected by candidates and political parties, to observe the process of canvassing absentee and mail-in ballots; and
WHEREAS, the Commonwealth conducted an election on November 3, 2020 for federal offices, including selecting electors for President and Vice President of the United States; and
WHEREAS, officials in the Executive and Judicial Branches of the Commonwealth infringed upon the General Assembly’s authority under the United States Constitution by unlawfully changing the rules governing the November 3, 2020 election in the Commonwealth; and
WHEREAS, on September 17, 2020, less than seven weeks before the November 3, 2020 election, the partisan majority on the Supreme Court of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania unlawfully and unilaterally extended the deadline for mail-in ballots to be received, mandated that ballots mailed without a postmark would be presumed to be received timely, and could be accepted without a verified voter signature; and
WHEREAS, on October 23, 2020, less than two weeks before the November 3, 2020 election and upon a petition from the Secretary of the Commonwealth, the Supreme Court of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania ruled that mail-in ballots need not authenticate signatures for mail-in ballots, thereby treating in-person and mail-in voters dissimilarly and eliminating a critical safeguard against potential election crime; and
WHEREAS, on November 2, 2020, the night before the November 3, 2020 election and prior to the prescribed time for pre-canvassing mail-in ballots, the office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth encouraged certain counties to notify party and candidate representatives of mail-in voters whose ballots contained defects; and
WHEREAS, heavily Democrat counties permitted mail-in voters to cure ballot defects while heavily Republican counties followed the law and invalidated defective ballots; and
WHEREAS, in certain counties in the Commonwealth, watchers were not allowed to meaningfully observe the pre-canvassing and canvassing activities relating to absentee and mail-in ballots; and
WHEREAS, in other parts of the Commonwealth, watchers observed irregularities concerning the pre-canvassing and canvassing of absentee and mail-in ballots; and
WHEREAS, postal employees in Pennsylvania have reported anomalies relating to mail-in ballots, including multiple ballots delivered to a single address with unfamiliar addressees, ballots mailed to vacant homes, empty lots, and addresses that did not exist; and
WHEREAS, witnesses testifying before the Pennsylvania Senate Majority Policy Committee on November 25, 2020 have provided additional compelling information regarding the questionable nature of the administration of the 2020 General Election; and
WHEREAS, there remains ongoing litigation concerning the administration of the November 3, 2020 election in the Commonwealth; and
WHEREAS, in 2016, Pennsylvania’s general election results were certified on December 12, 2016, and on November 24, 2020, the Secretary of the Commonwealth unilaterally and prematurely certified results of the November 3, 2020 election regarding presidential electors despite ongoing litigation; and
WHEREAS, the Pennsylvania House of Representatives has the duty to ensure that no citizen of this Commonwealth is disenfranchised, to insist that all elections are conducted according to the law, and to satisfy the general public that every legal vote is counted accurately;
THEREFORE, be it RESOLVED that the Pennsylvania House of Representatives—
1. Recognizes substantial irregularities and improprieties associated with mail-in balloting, pre-canvassing, and canvassing during the November 3, 2020 election; and
2. Disapproves of the infringement on the General Assembly’s authority pursuant to the United States Constitution to regulate elections; and
3. Disapproves of and disagrees with the Secretary of the Commonwealth’s premature certification of the results of the November 3, 2020 election regarding presidential electors; and
4. Declares that the selection of presidential electors and other statewide electoral contest results in this Commonwealth is in dispute; and
5. Urges the Secretary of the Commonwealth and the Governor to withdraw or vacate the certification of presidential electors and to delay certification of results in other statewide electoral contests voted on at the 2020 General Election; and
6. Urges the United States Congress to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 27, 2020, 04:18:07 PM
Post by: Old Crow on November 27, 2020, 04:21:42 PM
Post by: Anthony on November 27, 2020, 04:37:13 PM
Unrelated threat note to Anthony: when I scanned that last tweet thread I noticed in it that Kristi Noem announced she was now a grandmother.
Way to burst my fantasy bubble Jim, thanks. ;D
She's still got the goods, even if she's married, has kids, grandkids, doesn't know I'm alive..........
Post by: Rush on November 27, 2020, 05:34:00 PM
Unrelated note to Anthony: when I scanned that last tweet thread I noticed in it that Kristi Noem announced she was now a grandmother.
So, she’s a GMILF?
Post by: Rush on November 27, 2020, 09:49:18 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 28, 2020, 01:14:26 AM
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2020, 05:40:15 AM
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-second-judge-upholds-halt-to-pennsylvania-certification/
So this is the kraken, multiple tentacles. I like.
Post by: Lucifer on November 28, 2020, 07:33:25 AM
So this is the kraken, multiple tentacles. I like.
Good analogy.
However people are going to be really shocked when the actual Kraken is revealed.
Post by: Lucifer on November 28, 2020, 07:50:17 AM
An Illegitimate Election Plunges the Republic into a Crisis
This is how elections are conducted in Third World countries - and now in America.
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However the presidential election turns out, one thing is clear, half the country will believe that the man officially sitting in the White House is an illegitimate pretender.
And that’s the way it’s been throughout this century.
The crisis of presidential legitimacy really kicked into gear in 2000. Before that people might hate the president, but the opposing political party wouldn’t insist on his illegitimacy. Afterward every president has been treated as an illegitimate criminal to be opposed and driven out.
Twenty years later, the Democrat strategy of presidential illegitimacy has brought the country to the brink of civil war. Declaring that President Bush was illegitimate wasn’t just rhetoric. Congressional Democrats fought certification of the election results in 2000 and 2004, and touted impeachment. The Iraq War did not radicalize Democrat opposition to Bush, like the pandemic, it gave the already radicalized Democrats a tangible thing to justify their treason.
The Democrat doctrine of presidential illegitimacy changed how our government worked.
The first duty of House Democrats became public shows of resistance and hostility to an illegitimate president. And presidents responded by acting unilaterally through executive orders and actions. The collapse of relations between the executive and legislative branches led to a stalemate that benefited the unelected parts of the government: judicial and administrative.
Republicans worked to secure the judiciary while Democrats tightened their hold on the administrative state. But pitting a conservative judiciary, in politics and temperament, against the culture war of elites and their administrative state that made the rules was an uphill battle.
The losers were voters whose ability to influence the issues they cared about dropped as the unelected parts of government grew more powerful while the power of the voters shrank.
But the American people by inclination and the system by design tended to split the legislative and executive branches between rival political parties to maintain a check on political power.
The Democrats responded with frantic schemes to rig the system through ballot harvesting and election fraud, abolishing the electoral college, and adding Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico as states all to bypass the clear preference of voters for a divided political system.
Their goal isn’t to make the system fairer, but to rig the system so no one else can win.
The Democrats reacted to 2016 by demanding that some of the country’s biggest companies, in and out of the tech industry, join them in fighting President Trump. The resulting oligarchy consolidated a political movement and its cultural sympathizers in the administrative state and corporate sphere to declare a total war against President Trump and his supporters using tactics ranging from widespread censorship on the internet to wiretapping and criminal investigations..
The sum total of this effort was to move power further away from voters and into an oligarchy.
The irony of an oligarchy consisting of some of the most powerful men and women in the country, and their corporations and government institutions consolidating power under the guise of fighting for the oppressed has plenty of historical precedents. All of these precedents are bad.
The oligarchy claims that contrary views, which it labels “disinformation” pose a unique threat to “democracy”.The unique threat isn’t posed by disinformation, disagreeable speech, or lies, a concept as old as mankind, but by the usurpation of political power by an unelected oligarchy.
Between 2016 and 2020, elections have been undermined, voters have been disenfranchised, and the First Amendment has been dispensed with in response to various emergencies, from President Trump’s victory to the pandemic by the private-public alliance of the oligarchy.
Governors responded to the pandemic by usurping the power of legislatures and other elected officials, such as the secretary of state in Nevada, to unilaterally ban public gatherings, outlaw protests, enter private residences, and fundamentally change how elections are conducted.
They also worked with tech companies to suppress political protests against their activities.
Tech companies, which command the marketplace of ideas, suppressed political scandals involving Biden, and amplified scandals involving President Trump. The administrative state and elements of the judiciary worked to undermine President Trump, obstruct his policies, and block his actions on any available pretext in a political coup of unprecedented scope and scale.
And, if that weren’t enough, the violent mobs of the Black Lives Matter racist movement, backed by corporate money and massive assistance from foundations like the Ford Foundation, terrorized entire cities and suburbs while mobilizing support for Democrats and their agenda.
The 2020 election occurred under this state of emergency, imposed not by President Trump, but by a coalition of Democrat officials, media propagandists, and tech companies with ugly results.
Even beyond the outrageous voter fraud that marked this election, there could be no better way to delegitimize a presidential election than through the combination of Democrat abuses of power, violations of civil rights, mass propaganda and censorship, and mob violence.
This is how elections are conducted in Third World countries and now in America.
We have come a long way in twenty years since Bush v. Gore. And now it’s not about hanging chads or the details of the disputed elements. It’s that no one trusts elections anymore.
Despite the outraged disdain with which the media met Republican challenges to the election, there is nothing that Republicans have alleged about the election that Democrats did not allege about the previous elections that they lost. The same narratives about voting machine hacking, illegitimately counted, marked, and destroyed ballots, and even calls for electors to reject state results were there and will be there again. But only Democrats are allowed to make them.
Because only Democrats are allowed to wield power. And since only Democrats are allowed to wield power, any election they win is legitimate and any election that they lose is illegitimate.
But the problem with breaking the system to gain power is that the system stays broken.
The Democrats justify each breach by depicting each new Republican as a unique threat to be stopped by any means necessary. That doctrine of presidential illegitimacy is now a permanent element of our political life. And delegitimizing presidents begins with delegitimizing elections.
Democrats delegitimized Bush and then Trump by attacking the legitimacy of the 2000, 2004, and 2016 elections. Is it any wonder that by 2020 no one trusts election outcomes anymore?
The Democrats have made it clear that they want absolute power and that their own legitimacy isn’t a problem because they control the distribution of information through the media and now through an alliance with tech companies that monopolize internet search and social media.
But propaganda doesn’t grant legitimacy, it destroys the public’s trust in institutions.
Public trust, unlike propaganda, isn’t selective. When enough elections are delegitimized, then no election is legitimate. And then no president elected through such means is legitimate.
When public health experts insist that Trump rallies spread the coronavirus but Black Lives Matter riots don’t, then public trust and compliance collapse. The only lasting message of double standards is that there is no standard and that all that really matters is power.
The crisis of this election was decades and generations in the making. It’s now here.
The Democrats embraced a strategy of delegitimizing elections because they don’t derive their power from the traditional political system of the country, but from subverting it. Everything they did this year and the last four years was aimed at subverting elections and voters. And if the public loses faith in elections, that will make elections that much easier to steal in the future.
Their endgame is rule by an oligarchy, by the stakeholders and representatives of identity politics victimhood groups, but not by representatives of the electorate of the states of the union.
That is the fundamental crisis of the republic. The issue is not just one stolen election, but a strategy of delegitimizing elections, shattering representative government, and replacing it with an unelected oligarchy backed by mass propaganda, censorship, and political repression.
The crisis of the republic is emerging out of the shadows of the state and we have to meet it. Its urgent question is whether ours is a government of the people or a people of the government.
Post by: Lucifer on November 28, 2020, 08:10:59 AM
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1332497710356770818
Post by: bflynn on November 28, 2020, 02:00:31 PM
Here is why the dims are panicking:
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1332497710356770818
This is a fantasy. Republican legislatures will not be ignoring the election and choosing their own electors. There would be lawsuits galore over changing the rules after the fact and rightfully so.
I've heard this discussed by Democrats, but they aren't panicking over it, they're amused and a little disgusted at Republicans trying to steal the election.
Post by: bflynn on November 28, 2020, 02:03:21 PM
PA is going to the SC:
And the curtain closes on Act 2.
I predict Act 3 of this play will be very short, with a negative outcome for the president.
Post by: Lucifer on November 28, 2020, 02:47:45 PM
This is a fantasy. Republican legislatures will not be ignoring the election and choosing their own electors.
So the constitution is a fantasy? Really? Do you actually understand what's going on here?
Apparently not.
There stands a good chance (even better today) that one if not more states may not select electors due to their elections being in dispute. Under the constitution the legislature can choose a couple of routes to pursue.
First, recount the votes in accordance with law, and throw out all of the votes in question. However, PA has a problem with that as it's been discovered many voting records have mysteriously disappeared. They could just count the legal votes that are left (which will go to Trump) and choose the electors for him.
Second, they can simply report to congress that their election is disputed and they will not send electors to vote (yes, they have that right).
If neither side (Biden/Trump) get to 270, then under the constitution the election immediately goes to the House of Representatives to select the President and the Senate to select the Vice President and the results of the previous election become null and void.
In the house, each state delegation gets one vote, and right now there are more republican legislatures than democrat. Trump wins. The senate gets one vote per senator for Vice President, so Pence wins.
There would be lawsuits galore over changing the rules after the fact and rightfully so.
I would love to see those lawsuits. How would anyone successfully win a suit over an issue that is clear in the constitution? And since we are now in the Thomas court with originalist justices in the majority, can't see that getting traction either.
I've heard this discussed by Democrats, but they aren't panicking over it, they're amused and a little disgusted at Republicans trying to steal the election.
The law is on the Trump Teams side. The constitution is on their side. The rule of law will prevail.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 28, 2020, 04:00:46 PM
Neither Trump nor the CAB gets 270 votes
the house deadlocks and can't pick a President because it stays hopelessly tied.
Pence becomes VP...
And then Pence immediately becomes President.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 28, 2020, 04:01:50 PM
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I've heard this discussed by Democrats, but they aren't panicking over it, they're amused and a little disgusted at Republicans trying to steal the election.
Thanks for the chuckle...
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 28, 2020, 04:06:05 PM
Post by: bflynn on November 29, 2020, 02:18:33 AM
So the constitution is a fantasy? Really? Do you actually understand what's going on here?
Apparently not.
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The law is on the Trump Teams side. The constitution is on their side. The rule of law will prevail.
I see, you can’t defend the message, attack the messenger? Shall we go there again? Get a hold of yourself, you’re acting like a leftist, making decisions on emotion. What you wish is not reality.
You don’t realize the contradiction in your own post. With regards to electors, the law is not on Trump’s side. It is not on anyone’s side.
The States have made laws about how to allocate electors. They are bound by those laws because the United States is a Republic and we rule by law. The same force that calls the PA election into question because the governor violated the laws about mail in ballots also binds them to how the electors are allocated. They cannot just make something up, they must follow law. The Constitution requires that too, it says the states must apportion electors and PA has provided for how to do that. The method is set.
If it could be proven that certain ballots are fraudulent...say through fingerprints or other data based method, then they could be thrown out. But nobody is going to just start throwing out ballots because of accusations of fraud occurring.
In PA’s case the law requires them to allocate electors based solely on the election, there is no provision otherwise. They could change the law to provide an alternate method, but at this point there is no way they could do that without appearing self serving and PA Republicans have stated they will not do this. So, if PA is to have electors, they must be appointed by the current law or not at all. .
Anything else just precipitates a constitutional crisis. Trump’s hubris is not worth it. It very well may be that he should have won and fraud tipped the scale. But he cannot prove it according to law and therefore it’s just an opinion.
It’s no secret that I have never liked Trump. But my loyalty is to the Republic, to the law. If the law was on his side, I’d 100% be there. When I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, there was no expiration date on that oath. I will not see it dragged down so one man’s ego can be appeased.
Post by: bflynn on November 29, 2020, 02:34:53 AM
I’ll give you a head start, here’s the link to PA election law. https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/US/PDF/1937/0/0320..PDF
Quote the law that you insist gives Trump the edge and I’ll be right there with you. This is your chance to gain me as a crusader for you, all you have to do is quote chapter and verse. But I will also say that if you cannot, then you need to admit that you have been wrong and that Trump lost.
Post by: Anthony on November 29, 2020, 02:35:03 AM
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The Pennsylvania Supreme Court issued an order Saturday vacating a lower court’s decision to suspend the certification of the state’s vote in the presidential election, holding that a challenge to the state’s vote-by-mail laws had come too late.
Earlier this week, Pennsylvania certified its vote. But Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough blocked further steps to put the certification into effect, and upheld her earlier injunction on Friday, holding that a challenge to the state’s 2019 law allowing “no-excuse” vote-by-mail violated the state constitution. (The challenge was brought by Republican U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly, among others, and is separate from a case that President Donald Trump’s campaign lost in the Third Circuit in a unanimous three-judge decision on Friday. The campaign has pledged to appeal that decision to the U.S. Supreme Court.)
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/28/pennsylvania-supreme-court-tosses-challenge-to-vote-by-mail-because-it-came-too-late/
Post by: Rush on November 29, 2020, 06:44:15 AM
One last thing - if you believe the law is on Trump’s side for the allocation of electors because of fraud, then quote the PA law which states that. Are there specific ballots which do not comply with the signature or handling requirements? Invalid voters?
I’ll give you a head start, here’s the link to PA election law. https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/US/PDF/1937/0/0320..PDF
Quote the law that you insist gives Trump the edge and I’ll be right there with you. This is your chance to gain me as a crusader for you, all you have to do is quote chapter and verse. But I will also say that if you cannot, then you need to admit that you have been wrong and that Trump lost.
Last time I checked, the U.S. Constitution trumps state law.
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 06:47:44 AM
I see, you can’t defend the message, attack the messenger? Shall we go there again? Get a hold of yourself, you’re acting like a leftist, making decisions on emotion. What you wish is not reality.
You don’t realize the contradiction in your own post. With regards to electors, the law is not on Trump’s side. It is not on anyone’s side.
The States have made laws about how to allocate electors. They are bound by those laws because the United States is a Republic and we rule by law. The same force that calls the PA election into question because the governor violated the laws about mail in ballots also binds them to how the electors are allocated. They cannot just make something up, they must follow law. The Constitution requires that too, it says the states must apportion electors and PA has provided for how to do that. The method is set.
If it could be proven that certain ballots are fraudulent...say through fingerprints or other data based method, then they could be thrown out. But nobody is going to just start throwing out ballots because of accusations of fraud occurring.
In PA’s case the law requires them to allocate electors based solely on the election, there is no provision otherwise. They could change the law to provide an alternate method, but at this point there is no way they could do that without appearing self serving and PA Republicans have stated they will not do this. So, if PA is to have electors, they must be appointed by the current law or not at all. .
Anything else just precipitates a constitutional crisis. Trump’s hubris is not worth it. It very well may be that he should have won and fraud tipped the scale. But he cannot prove it according to law and therefore it’s just an opinion.
It’s no secret that I have never liked Trump. But my loyalty is to the Republic, to the law. If the law was on his side, I’d 100% be there. When I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, there was no expiration date on that oath. I will not see it dragged down so one man’s ego can be appeased.
You are flying off the rails with this inane diatribe. There is just so much of what you've written that's simply not even right, or true.
It's clear you do not understand the law as it applies here. It just looks like a mishmash of the garbage that the MSM is spewing with their pundits.
If you truly believed in the constitution and the rule of law, you would be willing to allow the one party to have their day in court, but you seem very intent on shutting them down and denying their rights.
Again, with regards to legal proceedings, those who demand the other side be shut down or thrown out before a fair trial are those who know they probably cannot prevail or withstand the scrutiny of the court.
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 06:49:32 AM
Last time I checked, the U.S. Constitution trumps state law.
Supremacy clause, you are correct.
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 07:05:48 AM
One last thing - if you believe the law is on Trump’s side for the allocation of electors because of fraud, then quote the PA law which states that. Are there specific ballots which do not comply with the signature or handling requirements? Invalid voters?
I’ll give you a head start, here’s the link to PA election law. https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/US/PDF/1937/0/0320..PDF
Quote the law that you insist gives Trump the edge and I’ll be right there with you. This is your chance to gain me as a crusader for you, all you have to do is quote chapter and verse. But I will also say that if you cannot, then you need to admit that you have been wrong and that Trump lost.
The constitutionality of the actions of the PA Governor and the PA SC are going to be heard before the US SC. And what is at question here is Act 77, not what you cited above.
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 07:22:59 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 07:24:48 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 07:39:13 AM
The constitutionality of the actions of the PA Governor and the PA SC are going to be heard before the US SC. And what is at question here is Act 77, not what you cited above.
Digging a bit further into the PA Constitution:
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1967 Amendment. Joint Resolution No.5 renumbered former section 12 to present section 10 and amended and renumbered former section 15 to present section 12.
§ 13. Contested elections.
The trial and determination of contested elections of electors of President and Vice-President, members of the General Assembly, and of all public officers, whether State, judicial, municipal or local, and contests involving questions submitted to the electors at any election shall be by the courts of law, or by one or more of the law judges thereof. The General Assembly shall, by general law, designate the courts and judges by whom the several classes of election contests shall be tried, and regulate the manner of trial and all matters incident thereto; but no such law assigning jurisdiction, or regulating its exercise, shall apply to any contest arising out of an election held before its passage.
(May 16, 1967, P.L.1048, J.R.5)
1967 Amendment. Joint Resolution No.5 repealed former section 13 and amended and renumbered former section 17 to present section 13.
§ 14. Absentee voting.
(a) The Legislature shall, by general law, provide a manner in which, and the time and place at which, qualified electors who may, on the occurrence of any election, be absent from the municipality of their residence, because their duties, occupation or business require them to be elsewhere or who, on the occurrence of any election, are unable to attend at their proper polling places because of illness or physical disability or who will not attend a polling place because of the observance of a religious holiday or who cannot vote because of election day duties, in the case of a county employee, may vote, and for the return and canvass of their votes in the election district in which they respectively reside.
(b) For purposes of this section, "municipality" means a city, borough, incorporated town, township or any similar general purpose unit of government which may be created by the General Assembly.
(Nov. 5, 1957, P.L.1019, J.R.1; May 16, 1967, P.L.1048, J.R.5; Nov. 5, 1985, P.L.555, J.R.1; Nov. 4, 1997, P.L.636, J.R.3)
When Gov Wolf and the PA SC intervened because of "Covid19" and changed election laws by allowing late mail in ballots and a few other changes they not only violated their own constitution, they violated the US constitution. That's at the heart of what's happening on this front of the legal battle.
On the fraud front of the battle, even the PA legislature has become suspect of the process. We'll see tomorrow how they plan to move forward on that.
Post by: bflynn on November 29, 2020, 07:43:57 AM
Last time I checked, the U.S. Constitution trumps state law.
Yes. And the Constitution says “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct“. The PA legislature has already directed how it it to be done. The method is set. The only real choice is they either follow that method or they don’t do it at all. PA has certified the election, it’s over.
Changing the game now would be stupid. Harm has been done just by asking to change the game. Make up new rules because they didn’t win? How hypocritical is that!?
Post by: bflynn on November 29, 2020, 07:49:07 AM
The constitutionality of the actions of the PA Governor and the PA SC are going to be heard before the US SC. And what is at question here is Act 77, not what you cited above.
The question before the Court will be whether or not the PA Supreme Court ruled correctly when they said the case to disagree with Act 77 was brought in a timely manner, which is why they dismissed it. The complaint came after the results of the election became known, not in March when the law was passed...by Republicans.
I suspect SCOTUS will not take up the case.
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 07:49:19 AM
Yes. And the Constitution says “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct“. The PA legislature has already directed how it it to be done. The method is set. The only real choice is they either follow that method or they don’t do it at all. PA has certified the election, it’s over.
Changing the game now would be stupid. Harm has been done just by asking to change the game. Make up new rules because they didn’t win? How hypocritical is that!?
Gov Wolf and the PA SC changed the game, without the consent of the legislature and used Covid19 as their excuse. That's what is at question here.
The US constitution and the PA constitution does not give the executive or the judiciary the power to change or make laws, that power is reserved for the legislative branch.
Post by: Rush on November 29, 2020, 07:54:51 AM
Gov Wolf and the PA SC changed the game, without the consent of the legislature and used Covid19 as their excuse. That's what is at question here.
The US constitution and the PA constitution does not give the executive or the judiciary the power to change or make laws, that power is reserved for the legislative branch.
You beat me to it.
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 07:55:11 AM
The question before the Court will be whether or not the PA Supreme Court rule correctly when they said the case to disagree with Act 77 was brought in a timely manner, which is why they dismissed it. The complaint came after the results of the election became known, not in March when the law was passed...by Republicans.
And we are watching some legal gamesmanship going on. Had the law been challenged in March, the SC would have tossed it because of no standing, much to the same as when the original case went to the USSC before the election and was split 4-4.
There is standing now, and the activist judges don't want to hear it.
It's going to the USSC, and probably will prevail on a 5-4 ruling. We'll see.
Post by: bflynn on November 29, 2020, 08:04:58 AM
Gov Wolf and the PA SC changed the game, without the consent of the legislature and used Covid19 as their excuse. That's what is at question here.
The US constitution and the PA constitution does not give the executive or the judiciary the power to change or make laws, that power is reserved for the legislative branch.
Act 77 was passed in Oct 2019, it's pre pandemic. The case just dismissed in the PA Supreme Court was a late complaint against Act 77. It was a law, not the governor making changes.
Alito ordered the governor's changes related to ballot arrival deadline and ballot boxes to be stopped - a change BTW, that was made because Trump started talking about ballots not arriving in time. The man doesn't know know when to keep his mouth shut. That case is Republican Party of Pennsylvania, Applicant v. Kathy Boockvar in SCOTUS is you care to go read about it.
What other law did Pennsylvania not follow and what is the status of those court cases?
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 08:19:07 AM
Act 77 was passed in Oct 2019, it's pre pandemic. The case just dismissed in the PA Supreme Court was a late complaint against Act 77. It was a law, not the governor making changes.
Alito ordered the governor's changes related to ballot arrival deadline and ballot boxes to be stopped - a change BTW, that was made because Trump started talking about ballots not arriving in time. The man doesn't know know when to keep his mouth shut. That case is Republican Party of Pennsylvania, Applicant v. Kathy Boockvar in SCOTUS is you care to go read about it.
What other law did Pennsylvania not follow and what is the status of those court cases?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ken-starr-life-liberty-levin-pennsylvania-election-constitutional-travesty
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The Pennsylvania Supreme Court's ruling requiring boards of elections in the commonwealth to count mail-in ballots postmarked by Election Day if they were received up to three days later was a "constitutional travesty," former independent counsel Ken Starr told "Life, Liberty & Levin" Sunday.
"The founding generation sitting in Philadelphia undoubtedly thought, 'Well, should we have the state Supreme Court make the determination?' No, we want ... a very democratic with a small 'd' approach," Starr, a Fox News contributor, told host Mark Levin. "We want the legislatures, those closest to the people, the state legislatures, they're the bosses, not the governor.
"And what happened in Pennsylvania over these recent weeks is a constitutional travesty. Governor [Tom] Wolf tries to get his reforms, his vision, as he was entitled to do, through the legislature of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania," Starr went on. "He failed. He then goes to the state Supreme Court, which by a divided vote, accepted the substance of what Governor Wolf was doing, and then added thereon nooks and crannies as well."
On Friday, Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito issued an emergency order that every county election board in Pennsylvania segregate and secure ballots received after 8 p.m. on Election Day. The order stopped short of ordering the boards to stop counting the ballots, which the Republican Party of Pennsylvania had requested.
Host Mark Levin pointed out to Starr that the votes that Alito ordered separated and secured "may be in question under our federal constitution ... that is, the state Supreme Court may have disenfranchised those voters by violating the federal constitution."
"Exactly right," Starr agreed. "In fact, to count every vote may be a crime ... under federal law. It's definitely a crime under state law, if -- and here's the key word -- illegal.
"It's shameful that Vice President [Joe] Biden's people and the vice president himself are saying 'Count Every Vote' and selling a lot of T-shirts. That is ... an invitation for absolute lawlessness.
https://www.phillyvoice.com/pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-extension-deadline-supreme-court-election-day/
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The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has granted additional time for mail-in ballots to be received by election officials and be counted, but any that are mailed must be postmarked by 8 p.m. on Nov 3. to be valid.
The decision was announced in a ruling written by Justice Max Baer on Thursday. The court extended the time mail-in and absentee ballot have to reach the county boards of election to 5 p.m. on Friday, Nov. 6, which is three days after Election Day.
The ruling resolves a lawsuit filed Sept. 8 by the Pennsylvania Democratic Party, which sought to extend the deadline among other things.
The panel of state supreme court judges also authorized the use of drop boxes as places where voters can hand deliver their mail-in ballots on Election Day; denied allowing voters to giving their ballots to someone else to be delivered; prohibited poll watchers from working in counties other than the ones where they are registered to vote; and ruled mail-ballots must use the secrecy envelop in order to be valid.
So the PA SC rewrote election law without the consent of the PA Legislature. That's clear on it's face, and this is the heart of the matter going before the USSC.
https://www.governor.pa.gov/newsroom/governor-wolf-signs-election-reform-bill-including-new-mail-in-voting/
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Harrisburg, PA – Governor Wolf made voting more convenient and secure by signing Act 77 of 2019, the most significant improvement to Pennsylvania’s elections in more than 80 years. The bipartisan compromise legislation takes effect for the April 2020 primary election and makes Pennsylvania a national leader with voter-friendly election reforms.
The law creates a new option to vote by mail up to 50 days before an election and be placed on a list to permanently receive a ballot application by mail. It also provides more time to register to vote and authorizes a $90 million bond to help counties fund the purchase of new voting systems with a paper trail that strengthens the security of our elections.
“This bill makes voting more convenient and more secure for millions of Pennsylvanians and continues my commitment to modernizing our elections,” said Governor Wolf. “This is the biggest change to our elections in generations and will strengthen our democracy by removing barriers to the voting booth and encouraging more people to vote. I applaud all of the legislators and stakeholders for their work with my administration and their spirit of compromise.”
Increasing the opportunity to vote increases turnout. According to a U.S. Government Accountability Office report in 2016, providing more days to register to vote and no-excuse mail-in ballots increased voter participation by more than four percent. That is nearly 250,000 votes in Pennsylvania.
No excuse mail-in voting
The law creates a new option to vote by mail without providing an excuse, which is currently required for voters using absentee ballots. Pennsylvania joins 31 other states and Washington, D.C. with mail-in voting that removes barriers to elections.
50-day mail-in voting period
All voters can request and submit their mail-in or absentee ballot up to 50 days before the election, which is the longest vote-by-mail period in the country.
Permanent mail-in and absentee ballot list
Voters can request to receive applications for mail-in or absentee ballots for all primary, general and special elections held in a given year. Counties will mail applications to voters on the list by the first Monday of each February. Voters who return an application will receive ballots for each election scheduled through the next February. Pennsylvania is the 12th state to provide voters with the automatic option.
15 more days to register to vote
The deadline to register to vote is extended to 15 days from 30 days before an election. Cutting the current deadline by half enables more people to participate in elections. The new more flexible and voter friendly deadlines provide more time to register to vote than 24 other states.
Extends mail-in and absentee submission deadlines
Voters can submit mail-in and absentee ballots until 8:00 p.m. on election day. The current deadline is 5:00 p.m. on the Friday before an election, which is the most restrictive in the country. Pennsylvanians submitted 195,378 absentee ballots in 2018, but 8,162 – more than four percent – missed the deadline and were rejected. The national average is only two percent.
The changes do not impact the November 5, 2019 election.
“The bill modernizes our antiquated voting laws. Now a voter’s kitchen table can become their voting booth, and researching candidates can be done in real time,” said Senator Lisa Boscola. “SB 421 puts the political parties on the run, and gives voters more control. This law will bring polling to the people, and that is closer to a modern democracy: no excuses and no exclusions.”
“The people of Pennsylvania have sent divided government to Harrisburg and, with that, this is what governing looks like,” said Senate Majority Leader Jake Corman. “We are thankful for the governor’s willingness to work with us to enact the most historic change in how we cast votes since the election code was enacted in 1937. Compromise has given Pennsylvanians a modernized election code that preserves the integrity of the ballot box and makes it easier for voters to choose the people who represent them.”
“This bill was not written to benefit one party or the other, or any one candidate or single election,” said House Majority Leader Representative Bryan Cutler. “It was developed over a multi-year period with input of people from different backgrounds and regions of Pennsylvania. It serves to preserve the integrity of every election and lift the voice of every voter in the commonwealth.”
The law also authorizes the governor to pursue a $90 million bond to reimburse counties for 60 percent of their actual costs to replace voting systems. The new systems have enhanced security to help guard against hacking and produce an anonymous paper record so voters can verify their ballot is correctly marked when casting it. Paper records also allow officials to conduct the most accurate recounts and audits of election results.
“Voters in Pennsylvania won for this election and elections to come,” said Micah Sims, executive director, Common Cause Pennsylvania. “This package provides the infrastructure of new voting machines to produce secure elections and now we have some good reforms that will create greater engagement and participation.”
“This commitment of $90 million is crucial for counties who are continuing to work to meet requirements to purchase new, voter-verifiable paper trail elections systems by April 2020, and we thank the Administration and General Assembly for their partnership in securing this funding,” said Kathi Cozzone, CCAP president and Chester County commissioner. “Ultimately, the winners are our mutual constituents – both voters and county property taxpayers.”
In April 2018, the Department of State informed counties they must select the new voting systems by the end of 2019 and the new system must be used by voters no later than the April 2020 primary election. At least 52 counties, or 78 percent, have taken official action toward selecting a new voting system. And 46 counties, or 68 percent, plan to use their new voting system in the November 2019 election.
Earlier this year, Governor Wolf launched an option for Pennsylvanians to request absentee ballot requests online for the first time. In his first term, Pennsylvania launched online voter registration, which more than 1.5 million Pennsylvanians have used since 2015.
Pennsylvania ranks 25th for voter participation with 51 percent of the eligible population voting in the 2018 election.
Notice the deadline to receive mail in votes in Act 77? It was the PA SC who stepped in and extended that deadline with total disregard to ACT 77, and thus rewrote the law using the pandemic as their excuse.
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 08:58:51 AM
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To say out-loud that you find the results of the 2020 presidential election odd is to invite derision. You must be a crank or a conspiracy theorist. Mark me down as a crank, then. I am a pollster and I find this election to be deeply puzzling. I also think that the Trump campaign is still well within its rights to contest the tabulations. Something very strange happened in America’s democracy in the early hours of Wednesday November 4 and the days that followed. It’s reasonable for a lot of Americans to want to find out exactly what.
First, consider some facts. President Trump received more votes than any previous incumbent seeking reelection. He got 11 million more votes than in 2016, the third largest rise in support ever for an incumbent. By way of comparison, President Obama was comfortably reelected in 2012 with 3.5 million fewer votes than he received in 2008.
Trump’s vote increased so much because, according to exit polls, he performed far better with many key demographic groups. Ninety-five percent of Republicans voted for him. He did extraordinarily well with rural male working-class whites.
He earned the highest share of all minority votes for a Republican since 1960. Trump grew his support among black voters by 50 percent over 2016. Nationally, Joe Biden’s black support fell well below 90 percent, the level below which Democratic presidential candidates usually lose.
Trump increased his share of the national Hispanic vote to 35 percent. With 60 percent or less of the national Hispanic vote, it is arithmetically impossible for a Democratic presidential candidate to win Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico. Bellwether states swung further in Trump’s direction than in 2016. Florida, Ohio and Iowa each defied America’s media polls with huge wins for Trump. Since 1852, only Richard Nixon has lost the electoral college after winning this trio, and that 1960 defeat to John F. Kennedy is still the subject of great suspicion.
Midwestern states Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin always swing in the same direction as Ohio and Iowa, their regional peers. Ohio likewise swings with Florida. Current tallies show that, outside of a few cities, the Rust Belt swung in Trump’s direction. Yet, Biden leads in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin because of an apparent avalanche of black votes in Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee. Biden’s ‘winning’ margin was derived almost entirely from such voters in these cities, as coincidentally his black vote spiked only in exactly the locations necessary to secure victory. He did not receive comparable levels of support among comparable demographic groups in comparable states, which is highly unusual for the presidential victor.
We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes.
Victorious presidential candidates, especially challengers, usually have down-ballot coattails; Biden did not. The Republicans held the Senate and enjoyed a ‘red wave’ in the House, where they gained a large number of seats while winning all 27 toss-up contests. Trump’s party did not lose a single state legislature and actually made gains at the state level.
Another anomaly is found in the comparison between the polls and non-polling metrics. The latter include: party registrations trends; the candidates’ respective primary votes; candidate enthusiasm; social media followings; broadcast and digital media ratings; online searches; the number of (especially small) donors; and the number of individuals betting on each candidate.
Despite poor recent performances, media and academic polls have an impressive 80 percent record predicting the winner during the modern era. But, when the polls err, non-polling metrics do not; the latter have a 100 percent record. Every non-polling metric forecast Trump’s reelection. For Trump to lose this election, the mainstream polls needed to be correct, which they were not. Furthermore, for Trump to lose, not only did one or more of these metrics have to be wrong for the first time ever, but every single one had to be wrong, and at the very same time; not an impossible outcome, but extremely unlikely nonetheless.
Atypical voting patterns married with misses by polling and non-polling metrics should give observers pause for thought. Adding to the mystery is a cascade of information about the bizarre manner in which so many ballots were accumulated and counted.
The following peculiarities also lack compelling explanations:
1. Late on election night, with Trump comfortably ahead, many swing states stopped counting ballots. In most cases, observers were removed from the counting facilities. Counting generally continued without the observers
2. Statistically abnormal vote counts were the new normal when counting resumed. They were unusually large in size (hundreds of thousands) and had an unusually high (90 percent and above) Biden-to-Trump ratio
3. Late arriving ballots were counted. In Pennsylvania, 23,000 absentee ballots have impossible postal return dates and another 86,000 have such extraordinary return dates they raise serious questions
4. The failure to match signatures on mail-in ballots. The destruction of mail in ballot envelopes, which must contain signatures
5. Historically low absentee ballot rejection rates despite the massive expansion of mail voting. Such is Biden’s narrow margin that, as political analyst Robert Barnes observes, ‘If the states simply imposed the same absentee ballot rejection rate as recent cycles, then Trump wins the election’
6. Missing votes. In Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 50,000 votes held on 47 USB cards are missing
7. Non-resident voters. Matt Braynard’s Voter Integrity Project estimates that 20,312 people who no longer met residency requirements cast ballots in Georgia. Biden’s margin is 12,670 votes
8. Serious ‘chain of custody’ breakdowns. Invalid residential addresses. Record numbers of dead people voting. Ballots in pristine condition without creases, that is, they had not been mailed in envelopes as required by law
9. Statistical anomalies. In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89 percent of the votes counted. For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch. It is particularly perplexing that all statistical anomalies and tabulation abnormalities were in Biden’s favor. Whether the cause was simple human error or nefarious activity, or a combination, clearly something peculiar happened.
If you think that only weirdos have legitimate concerns about these findings and claims, maybe the weirdness lies in you.
Patrick Basham is director of The Democracy Institute
Post by: Lucifer on November 29, 2020, 05:52:20 PM
Post by: nddons on November 30, 2020, 01:27:22 PM
This is a fantasy. Republican legislatures will not be ignoring the election and choosing their own electors. There would be lawsuits galore over changing the rules after the fact and rightfully so.Can you tell me how utilizing the US Constitution, Article II, Section 1, and Amendment XII to elect the President is changing the rules after the fact?
I've heard this discussed by Democrats, but they aren't panicking over it, they're amused and a little disgusted at Republicans trying to steal the election.
Post by: Lucifer on December 01, 2020, 07:45:06 AM
Post by: bflynn on December 01, 2020, 05:11:37 PM
Can you tell me how utilizing the US Constitution, Article II, Section 1, and Amendment XII to elect the President is changing the rules after the fact?
I doubt it, but I'll try one more time.
The Constitution says the state legislators have the power to set the rules to choose electors. They have done that and as of this date, every single one of them do it based on the election. No states have laws that direct the legislatures to directly choose electors. They have all expressed their will as the electors being chosen by the people.
Therefore the rules are set and changing them after the election delivers a disagreeable result would be doing exactly what President Trump accuses the Democrats of doing - changing, making up or using other rules. Even the suggestion of a naked power grab looks incredibly ugly and pressing it could really turn voters off from Republicans and cause them to lose the Senate runoffs in Georgia.
Post by: Lucifer on December 01, 2020, 06:52:34 PM
Post by: Rush on December 01, 2020, 09:30:43 PM
The way those poll workers and vote counters behaved I wonder if they had a lot of BLM and Antifa members among them?
Post by: Anthony on December 02, 2020, 03:06:59 AM
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2020, 05:19:58 AM
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Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, publicly urged the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday to hear the expedited appeal of a case challenging the election results in Pennsylvania, saying the matter "raises serious legal issues."
Cruz, the longest serving solicitor general in the history of Texas and a former law professor at the University of Texas Law School in Austin, is the first U.S. senator to publicly support the appeal, filed by Rep. Mike Kelly, R-Pa.
"Hearing this case now – on an emergency expedited basis – would be an important step in helping rebuild confidence in the integrity of our democratic system," Cruz said in statement that also noted a Reuters/Ipsos poll found 39% of Americans believed the election was "rigged."
Kelly's appeal argues the Pennsylvania legislature passed legislation greatly expanding the use of absentee voting, making it a "no-excuse" mail-in election and contradicting the state's Constitution. It further derides the Pennsylvania Supreme Court for dismissing Kelly's lawsuit for "laches," a legal term for a procedural issue saying the case was brought too late.
Cruz was especially critical of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's dismissal on the procedural ground.
"Even more persuasively, the plaintiffs point out that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has also held that plaintiffs don't have standing to challenge an election law until after the election, meaning that the court effectively put them in a Catch-22: before the election, they lacked standing; after the election, they've delayed too long," Cruz said. "The result of the court's gamesmanship is that a facially unconstitutional election law can never be judicially challenged."
https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=5482
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"Today, an emergency appeal was filed in the U.S. Supreme Court challenging the election results in Pennsylvania. This appeal raises serious legal issues, and I believe the Court should hear the case on an expedited basis.
"The Pennsylvania Constitution requires in-person voting, except in narrow and defined circumstances. Late last year, the Pennsylvania Legislature passed a law that purported to allow universal mail-in voting, notwithstanding the Pennsylvania Constitution's express prohibition.
"This appeal argues that Pennsylvania cannot change the rules in the middle of the game. If Pennsylvania wants to change how voting occurs, the state must follow the law to do so.
"The illegality was compounded by a partisan Democrat Supreme Court in Pennsylvania, which has issued multiple decisions that reflect their political and ideological biases. Just over a month ago, Justice Alito, along with Justice Thomas and Justice Gorsuch, wrote-correctly, I believe-concerning the Pennsylvania court's previous decision to count ballots received after Election Day, that ‘there is a strong likelihood that the State Supreme Court decision violates the Federal Constitution.'
"In the current appeal, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed the claim based on a legal doctrine called ‘laches,' which essentially means the plaintiffs waited too long to bring the challenge. But, the plaintiffs reasonably argue that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has not applied that doctrine consistently and so they cannot selectively enforce it now.
"Even more persuasively, the plaintiffs point out that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has also held that plaintiffs don't have standing to challenge an election law until after the election, meaning that the court effectively put them in a Catch-22: before the election, they lacked standing; after the election, they've delayed too long. The result of the court's gamesmanship is that a facially unconstitutional election law can never be judicially challenged.
"Ordinarily, the U.S. Supreme Court would stay out of election disputes, especially concerning state law. But these are not ordinary times.
"As of today, according to Reuters/Ipsos polling, 39 percent of Americans believe that ‘the election was rigged.' That is not healthy for our democracy. The bitter division and acrimony we see across the nation needs resolution. And I believe the U.S. Supreme Court has a responsibility to the American people to ensure that we are following the law and following the Constitution. Hearing this case-now, on an emergency expedited basis-would be an important step in helping rebuild confidence in the integrity of our democratic system."
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2020, 05:22:19 AM
Post by: Rush on December 02, 2020, 06:05:43 AM
https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/11/Kelly-v.-Commonwealth-Final_Emergency-Application-for-Writ-of-Injunction.pdf
Is this the second case from PA put before the SC? Is there somewhere or someone keeping an updated list of what’s happening in each state? I’m trying to but things are happening so fast I’m having trouble keeping up. I’m having trouble with my mouse arm and the doctor told me to stay off the computer and put me on prednisone and gave me a cortisone shot. :(
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2020, 06:15:28 AM
Is this the second case from PA put before the SC? Is there somewhere or someone keeping an updated list of what’s happening in each state? I’m trying to but things are happening so fast I’m having trouble keeping up. I’m having trouble with my mouse arm and the doctor told me to stay off the computer and put me on prednisone and gave me a cortisone shot. :(
The second case, and this one is independent of the Trump case. And BTW, this lawsuit explains perfectly why and how PA violated their constitution and the US constitution.
If I find a rundown of all the lawsuits I'll post it here.
Post by: nddons on December 02, 2020, 11:26:31 AM
Greg Kelly used to be on Fox News. His Dad was NYC Police Commissioner. He is also a Marine Lt Col and an AV-8 Harrier pilot. He may still be in the Reserves, I am not sure.He is in the Marine Corps reserves, according to Wiki, and is on Newsmax TV. Excellent show.
This seemed like a random post. I’m sure you were making reference to something in the thread, but I’m too lazy to go back and look.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 02, 2020, 11:50:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvh0pvRC_v4&feature=youtu.be
Post by: Anthony on December 02, 2020, 12:07:55 PM
He is in the Marine Corps reserves, according to Wiki, and is on Newsmax TV. Excellent show.
This seemed like a random post. I’m sure you were making reference to something in the thread, but I’m too lazy to go back and look.
Kelly was on the Newsmax feed someone posted about this topic.
Post by: nddons on December 02, 2020, 12:25:27 PM
Kelly was on the Newsmax feed someone posted about this topic.Ah. Some of those links don’t come through on Tapatalk.
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2020, 02:25:00 PM
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2020, 02:38:45 PM
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2020, 09:19:32 PM
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2020, 07:45:55 AM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/201127-Electoral-Map-600x427.jpg)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 03, 2020, 08:41:38 AM
What's the big deal you say? Valerie is black and says about 80% of here friends have the same beliefs she has. Family oriented, pro-life folks and are very upset with the direction the country is headed. It was enlightening. My wife asked her about her work mates, she said, "there are some things you don't discuss at work".
Post by: Steingar on December 03, 2020, 09:25:51 AM
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2020, 09:35:53 AM
Yeeesh. the elections over. Biden won. Get over it.
It takes 270 electoral votes to "win". As of today, no one has "won".
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/201127-Electoral-Map-600x427.jpg)
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on December 03, 2020, 09:43:02 AM
It takes 270 electoral votes to "win". As of today, no one has "won".
Actually, until the Electoral College votes 14 Dec, there is no winner, and then, only if a candidate gets at least 270 votes. Sure, there can be the presumptive winner, but it ain't over til it's over.
Post by: Rush on December 03, 2020, 10:22:16 AM
Yeeesh. the elections over. Biden won. Get over it.
Read the paper Luci posted dated September 2019 over in the “punishment” thread. It is very eye opening. Long but worth it. I’m learning a lot.
What’s going on behind the mainstream media blackout very clearly indicates the election is disputed in the beige states on that map, so no, Biden has not won yet.
Post by: Little Joe on December 03, 2020, 11:38:01 AM
Yeeesh. the elections over. Biden won. Get over it.What were you saying when the Dems kept saying "Russia, Russia, Russia" for years?
Post by: Steingar on December 03, 2020, 12:09:35 PM
What were you saying when the Dems kept saying "Russia, Russia, Russia" for years?I was saying to let Muller has his say. And during the whole thing I was saying that I didn't think Trump actually did anything wrong, at least not with intent. What I did think he did was obstruction, but that's another matter.
All of Trump's lawsuits have been shot down. The votes are being certified. The game is up. Biden is the next POTUS.
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2020, 12:22:11 PM
I was saying to let Muller has his say.
And he did. No corruption, none.
And during the whole thing I was saying that I didn't think Trump actually did anything wrong, at least not with intent. What I did think he did was obstruction, but that's another matter.
Never proven, not even after $40+ million spent investigating.
All of Trump's lawsuits have been shot down.
Can you prove that? Have you actually read ANY of the lawsuits?
There are actually several in process right now, and more being filed. And there are multiple lawsuits being filed by others as well.
The votes are being certified. The game is up. Biden is the next POTUS.
The electoral college doesn't meet until the 14th, so no votes have been cast yet. And with multiple lawsuits in play, some of those certifications are likely to be met with injunctions, if not withheld by the state legislatures.
As of today, December 3rd, Biden still does not have the electoral votes to win on the 14th. But you wouldn't know that.
Post by: Little Joe on December 03, 2020, 12:24:40 PM
I was saying to let Muller has his say. And during the whole thing I was saying that I didn't think Trump actually did anything wrong, at least not with intent. What I did think he did was obstruction, but that's another matter.But that's not what the majority of Democrats were saying/doing.
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All of Trump's lawsuits have been shot down. The votes are being certified. The game is up. Biden is the next POTUS.I agree 100% with all of that.
But the fact that his suits have been shot down or tossed out doesn't mean they aren't true. The fact that the votes are being certified doesn't mean there wasn't fraud. The fact that the media purposely ignores reports of truck loads of ballots being "found" after the deadline and they are allowed to be counted anyway doesn't make it right. The fact that judges are making laws and legislators are ignoring laws isn't right, even if it is being allowed.
Post by: Steingar on December 03, 2020, 12:37:50 PM
But that's not what the majority of Democrats were saying/doing.I agree 100% with all of that.But the fact that his suits have been shot down or tossed out doesn't mean they aren't true.
What it means is they lacked evidence. That is, their basis wasn't factual. Trump has no facts at all behind him.
The fact that the votes are being certified doesn't mean there wasn't fraud.
No, but there is no evidence for said fraud. There are no facts supporting it, at least, not enough to sway even a single judge. Not one.
The fact that the media purposely ignores reports of truck loads of ballots being "found" after the deadline and they are allowed to be counted anyway doesn't make it right. The fact that judges are making laws and legislators are ignoring laws isn't right, even if it is being allowed.
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The fact that the media purposely ignores reports of truck loads of ballots being "found" after the deadline and they are allowed to be counted anyway doesn't make it right.
The media hasn't ignored any of this, they've debunked them. Most of the claims of fraud turn out to be nothing of the sort.
The fact that judges are making laws and legislators are ignoring laws isn't right, even if it is being allowed.The law judges things by fact. Most of what Trump and his familiars have is innuendo. Recall he was saying the exact same thing until he narrowly own the 2016 election. Then all of sudden all his imagined slights mysteriously disappeared.
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2020, 06:56:50 AM
Post by: Rush on December 04, 2020, 01:07:42 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 04, 2020, 01:16:35 PM
Rush (not me, the other one) just ended on a very pessimistic note.Was listening but guess I missed it.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 04, 2020, 01:18:18 PM
Post by: Rush on December 04, 2020, 01:56:08 PM
Was listening but guess I missed it.
The last caller asked if Rush thought Trump would beat this thing and Rush said a couple days after the election he thought so but now he’s not sure. He failed to reassure the listener with his usual optimism.
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2020, 02:08:08 PM
The last caller asked if Rush thought Trump would beat this thing and Rush said a couple days after the election he thought so but now he’s not sure. He failed to reassure the listener with his usual optimism.
During the 2000 Florida fiasco we went through 37 days of ups and downs, same as we are seeing here. This time is different in that it involves several states, and it involves fraud. It also involves many different lawsuits.
The democrats and the establishment republicans want to run the clock out and move on. Unlike 2000, there are 80+million very pissed off people, and surprisingly many democrats who also see how wrong this is and how much it can damage our country if we do nothing.
PA will go to the SC, GA and AZ are probably going to be resolved in the Legislature. WI will probably be resolved in the courts. MI? IMO that place is a lost cause for everyone as it is just so corrupt, and they revel in their corruption.
NV is still in play.
Fortunately there are now several congressmen getting involved. As I've said before, let the process play out.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 18, 2021, 06:17:57 PM
https://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/9/e/5/9e5f5ad802f4865f/Copy_of_Update_from_Garland_Favorito_Live_Sunday_January_17_2021_2pmET.mp3?c_id=93752462&cs_id=93752462&destination_id=426932&expiration=1611023926&hwt=a58bb44f412edc37ccb683e3642b93f7
Post by: Bamaflyer on January 21, 2021, 05:21:43 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/chelseahandler/status/1352015462679236612?s=20
Post by: Lucifer on January 23, 2021, 06:59:54 AM
Post by: Lucifer on January 23, 2021, 07:06:39 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 24, 2021, 06:34:59 AM
Garland Favorito will be on with Monica Perez at 4:00pm EST with and update on his actions in Georgia
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 25, 2021, 05:46:22 PM
https://youtu.be/SZTt1pqCxAc (https://youtu.be/SZTt1pqCxAc)The link to the interview with Garland....still not over in Georgia
Garland Favorito will be on with Monica Perez at 4:00pm EST with and update on his actions in Georgia
https://t.co/sFF3BOIQVt?amp=1
Post by: Lucifer on February 05, 2021, 08:03:44 AM
https://michaeljlindell.com/
No wonder the left and the establishment desperately wants him cancelled.
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2021, 08:57:43 AM
Long video, but he lays everything out piece by piece.
https://michaeljlindell.com/
No wonder the left and the establishment desperately wants him cancelled.
Thanks, that reminds me to get my pillow order in. I think I’ll get a few sets of his towels too. Just because.
Post by: nddons on February 05, 2021, 09:01:45 AM
Thanks, that reminds me to get my pillow order in. I think I’ll get a few sets of his towels too. Just because.Wait wait! See a separate thread I just started about “Not the Onion of Babylon Bee.”
But yes, in addition to the great pillows, we are also no longer buying sheets from Kohl’s and will now buy them from Mike Lindell.
Post by: Number7 on February 05, 2021, 09:03:25 AM
Thanks, that reminds me to get my pillow order in. I think I’ll get a few sets of his towels too. Just because.
We ordered pillows for each of the kids and grands.
And fuck that pathetic little queer.
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2021, 09:38:41 AM
Wait wait! See a separate thread I just started about “Not the Onion of Babylon Bee.”
But yes, in addition to the great pillows, we are also no longer buying sheets from Kohl’s and will now buy them from Mike Lindell.
I buy my sheets from Boll & Branch. I haven’t heard what their status is in any of this. The Rush that isn’t me promotes them so either they’ve disowned him, or they’re being canceled too I suppose.
Post by: Mr Pou on February 05, 2021, 09:48:40 AM
Post by: Dweyant on February 05, 2021, 09:57:39 AM
I need new pillows, what's the web site?
Mypillow.com.
Really like the ones we have. He always has discount coupons for 1/2 off. Also got a couple sets of sheets a while ago. They seem pretty nice as well.
-Dan
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 05, 2021, 10:21:26 AM
Post by: Number7 on February 05, 2021, 10:56:18 AM
Mypillow.com.
Really like the ones we have. He always has discount coupons for 1/2 off. Also got a couple sets of sheets a while ago. They seem pretty nice as well.
-Dan
Our daughter the BIG LIB thinks they are the best pillows ever.
Go figure.
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2021, 10:58:23 AM
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
Wow. I don’t have time to read the whole thing but here is the gist of what I perceive. At the end he says: “The will of the people prevailed,” after admitting in plain language in the beginning that there was a literal conspiracy to make sure Biden prevailed, facts be damned:
“There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day.”
On Election Day, November 3? Before the results were known? And then admitting that it actually began before that day, with getting mail in ballots in place and so on.
Just coming right out and admitting a conspiracy between Big Business and government to ensure the Democrats won. And he doesn’t leave out the lie that is was about being “free and fair, credible and uncorrupted”, right in the middle of his tome about the corruption!
Do I read that right, or do I need to go read all the rest of it?
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2021, 11:05:09 AM
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2021, 11:06:02 AM
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2021, 03:32:31 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 08, 2021, 10:16:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_rzF-xjmM&feature=emb_logo
He talks about being flown to do a segment for Mike Lindell's video. Apparently the video Mike has released is only the tip of the iceberg as to what was shot that weekend.
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 08, 2021, 11:58:14 PM
The latest interview with Garland Favorito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_rzF-xjmM&feature=emb_logo
He talks about being flown to do a segment for Mike Lindell's video. Apparently the video Mike has released is only the tip of the iceberg as to what was shot that weekend.
Just found time to watch that video update. Worth watching IMHO. Garland Favorito comes across as a calm, low key, tenacious fighter.
Post by: Lucifer on February 09, 2021, 06:34:55 AM
Read a little more. A shocking admission of unrepentant manipulation!
Of course they a bragging about it, the biggest scam and coup in American history, and they pulled it off.
They can't help themselves.
And they can brag about it because they have the protection of the judicial, law enforcement, the MSM, Big Tech, the military and the cabal inside the beltway.
The DCP want to rub everyone's nose in this. They want the message out loud and clear that they are in charge and there is nothing you can do about it.
The next 18 months will decide whether this country moves forward as the United States or suffers the same fate of the Soviet Union.
I still contend we are going to start seeing secession.
Post by: Lucifer on February 09, 2021, 06:37:34 AM
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“Unite the country” may be the three scariest words coming out of D.C. right now. Conform or be crushed is what they mean. Thankfully, Second Amendment sanctuary state efforts are drawing bold lines against federal encroachment.
Missouri is close to nullifying federal gun control within its borders. On Tuesday, the Missouri House overwhelmingly passed the “Second Amendment Preservation Act,” which prohibits public officers, state employees, and political subdivisions from enforcing federal acts, laws, executive orders, court orders, and other edicts that transgress the right to bear arms.
The Tenth Amendment Center, the premier think tank for nullification advocacy, calls this legislation “a major step” toward stopping “past, present, and future” federal gun control.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 09, 2021, 08:03:10 AM
Post by: Rush on February 09, 2021, 08:24:38 AM
Watching Mike Lindell's Absolute Proof on Rumble right now.
I placed my order. He has a new customer. Towels, pillows and jammies.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 09, 2021, 08:47:49 AM
I placed my order. He has a new customer. Towels, pillows and jammies.Have you watched the video?
Post by: Rush on February 09, 2021, 09:16:20 AM
Have you watched the video?
Not the whole thing I’m slammed with work.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 09, 2021, 10:49:07 AM
Not the whole thing I’m slammed with work.Work, yuck ;)
Post by: Anthony on February 09, 2021, 11:13:55 AM
Post by: nddons on February 09, 2021, 01:41:44 PM
https://townhall.com/columnists/gavinwax/2021/02/09/there-will-only-be-unity-when-states-no-longer-disregard-their-duty-to-stand-up-to-dc-n2584429Lovely Kristi Noem is pushing back on these executive orders. And she is on totally solid ground. The Constitution doesn’t contemplate Executive Orders, so they have no force of law upon the states (or us for that matter.) The 10th Amendment controls and allows the states to tell Fedgov to shove it up their asses.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/south-dakota-gop-introduces-legislation-that-would-allow-state-to-nullify-biden-executive-orders/ar-BB1dvfNH?ocid=msedgdhp&fbclid=IwAR3xzmbxHcDAYZptqvnN2mnuR7BFpStnR7s6yFLph5LUQVhISGN9pIiS2T4
Post by: nddons on February 09, 2021, 01:42:54 PM
Not the whole thing I’m slammed with work.Me too. I’ve watched the first 25 minutes and I look forward to watching by the rest.
Post by: Lucifer on February 09, 2021, 01:57:37 PM
Lovely Kristi Noem is pushing back on these executive orders. And she is on totally solid ground. The Constitution doesn’t contemplate Executive Orders, so they have no force of law upon the states (or us for that matter.) The 10th Amendment controls and allows the states to tell Fedgov to shove it up their asses.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/south-dakota-gop-introduces-legislation-that-would-allow-state-to-nullify-biden-executive-orders/ar-BB1dvfNH?ocid=msedgdhp&fbclid=IwAR3xzmbxHcDAYZptqvnN2mnuR7BFpStnR7s6yFLph5LUQVhISGN9pIiS2T4
That's the key. More states need to tell Xiden to fuck off with his executive orders.
Post by: Number7 on February 09, 2021, 06:33:05 PM
Post by: Anthony on February 10, 2021, 04:39:23 AM
Lovely Kristi Noem is pushing back on these executive orders. And she is on totally solid ground. The Constitution doesn’t contemplate Executive Orders, so they have no force of law upon the states (or us for that matter.) The 10th Amendment controls and allows the states to tell Fedgov to shove it up their asses.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/south-dakota-gop-introduces-legislation-that-would-allow-state-to-nullify-biden-executive-orders/ar-BB1dvfNH?ocid=msedgdhp&fbclid=IwAR3xzmbxHcDAYZptqvnN2mnuR7BFpStnR7s6yFLph5LUQVhISGN9pIiS2T4
She continues to be spectacular in every way.
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 15, 2021, 02:57:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McLQtdw79NI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McLQtdw79NI)
They could use some help in their fights. Two ways to do that:
(1) Sign the “Inclusion Form Letter” on the web page https://voterga.org/legal-action/ (https://voterga.org/legal-action/) and email back an image of the signed document at the address on that web page. At least that is my understanding of their instructions. Garland says you do not need to be a resident of Georgia to submit one because the requested action is in a Federal Grand Jury, not a state grand jury.
(2) Donate money: https://voterga.org/donate/ (https://voterga.org/donate/)
The alternative is to bitch and complain and give up and do none of the above. What’s that quote again about eternal vigilance?
Post by: Lucifer on February 15, 2021, 03:12:35 PM
Another update on the legal action in Georgia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McLQtdw79NI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McLQtdw79NI)
They could use some help in their fights. Two ways to do that:
(1) Sign the “Inclusion Form Letter” on the web page https://voterga.org/legal-action/ (https://voterga.org/legal-action/) and email back an image of the signed document at the address on that web page. At least that is my understanding of their instructions. Garland says you do not need to be a resident of Georgia to submit one because the requested action is in a Federal Grand Jury, not a state grand jury.
(2) Donate money: https://voterga.org/donate/ (https://voterga.org/donate/)
The alternative is to bitch and complain and give up and do none of the above. What’s that quote again about eternal vigilance?
And voters in South Michigan (former Georgia) could a) recall the Governor, b) Demand the resignation of the SoS, c) demand their elected state representatives and senators actually represent the people that elected them, and d) if they don't, either mount a recall effort and/or primary their sorry asses out of office.
Getting rid of that piece of shit governor would send a real wake up call to the others, and the citizens of South Michigan (former Georgia) can easily recall the bastard.
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 15, 2021, 07:42:00 PM
Another update on the legal action in Georgia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McLQtdw79NI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McLQtdw79NI)
They could use some help in their fights. Two ways to do that:
(1) Sign the “Inclusion Form Letter” on the web page https://voterga.org/legal-action/ (https://voterga.org/legal-action/) and email back an image of the signed document at the address on that web page. At least that is my understanding of their instructions. Garland says you do not need to be a resident of Georgia to submit one because the requested action is in a Federal Grand Jury, not a state grand jury.
(2) Donate money: https://voterga.org/donate/ (https://voterga.org/donate/)
The alternative is to bitch and complain and give up and do none of the above. What’s that quote again about eternal vigilance?
I donated $50 (I think that might buy 10 to 15 minutes of lawyer time!) and emailed them a form letter with my contact info and signature copied in.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 16, 2021, 07:54:21 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 16, 2021, 08:50:20 AM
That voterga.org site is very illuminating. Many links on it to clear debunking of the “safest election ever” trope.Garland is non-political in nature. He's gone against Republicans over voting issues.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 18, 2021, 05:29:37 PM
https://michaeljlindell.com/
Third video. I know bflynn can explain all of this.
BTW , it was posted on YouTube but didn't last long.
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 22, 2021, 01:36:20 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 22, 2021, 03:20:31 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 22, 2021, 06:27:32 PM
Post by: bflynn on February 23, 2021, 07:21:48 AM
2) Donate money: https://voterga.org/donate/ (https://voterga.org/donate/)
I've been keeping an eye on their legal fight. It looks to me like the government is on very shaky grounds. Their most recent motion quotes the law for election secrecy during the conduct of the election as justification for not permitting anyone else to look at the ballots. That's a huge stretch when the allegation is that government polling officials and/or voting machines changed ballots. Especially because there will be no connection between ballots and voters, meaning the secrecy of voters is still maintained.
The government is fighting a delaying action, hoping for the judge to give them a break.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 23, 2021, 07:39:37 AM
I've been keeping an eye on their legal fight. It looks to me like the government is on very shaky grounds. Their most recent motion quotes the law for election secrecy during the conduct of the election as justification for not permitting anyone else to look at the ballots. That's a huge stretch when the allegation is that government polling officials and/or voting machines changed ballots. Especially because there will be no connection between ballots and voters, meaning the secrecy of voters is still maintained.Kind of makes one wonder why they are putting up such a fight.
The government is fighting a delaying action, hoping for the judge to give them a break.
Post by: bflynn on February 23, 2021, 07:56:51 AM
Kind of makes one wonder why they are putting up such a fight.
I suspect it will cost them a lot of money, so they're pushing to avoid having it do it. They also don't want to open the flood gates that every group wants to looks at the election results.
Tells me they should have been much more careful in the conduct of their election and they should probably hire an impartial outside party to do this on everyone's behalf.
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2021, 07:59:14 AM
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The Georgia Senate has approved four election bills including one that will require ID verification for absentee ballot applicants.
One of the bills, SB 67, adds an ID requirement to paper requests for absentee ballots and would require either a driver's license number, state ID number, or photocopy of a photo ID that would be needed for in-person voting, according to news reports.
"It's not about disenfranchising voters," said Sen. Larry Walker, who sponsored the bills passed Tuesday. "It's not about overly burdening the electorate. It's about efficiency, integrity, allowing the Georgia public to have confidence in the vote."
The measures passed by the GOP-led chamber follow the Nov. 3 elections in the state in which ballot integrity was a concern.
Another bill passed unanimously by the State Senate would, if enacted, require election officials to begin processing absentee ballots a week before the election.
"Give people the totals," Republican State Sen. Bill Cowsert said. "Let people have the peace of mind that nothing's being done in the dark of night."
Other bills attempt to ban Sunday voting, limit the window to request absentee ballots, and stop counties from uploading results until they can confirm from where each ballot came — absentee, early voter or Election Day.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 27, 2021, 10:14:51 AM
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2021, 10:21:22 AM
I saw a headline saying something about the AZ senate and ballots.
Mauricio’s has been ordered to turn over ballots by a judge.
I suspect they will challenge it yet again.
Yea, nothing to hide, full transparency.
Post by: Lucifer on March 01, 2021, 08:45:23 AM
Post by: nddons on March 01, 2021, 08:46:55 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/066/857/615/original/1d5b9edce4ed3c36.jpeg)“What difference, at this point, does it make?”
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Post by: Lucifer on March 01, 2021, 09:02:52 AM
“What difference, at this point, does it make?”
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Do you think the Doormat is pissed that the dims went all out to steal the election for a dumbass like Biden and didn't do it for her?
She must be stewing in her own juices.
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 01, 2021, 01:34:34 PM
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 01, 2021, 03:00:37 PM
Do you think the Doormat is pissed that the dims went all out to steal the election for a dumbass like Biden and didn't do it for her?
She must be stewing in her own juices.
They really didn't believe Trump had a chance to win.
Post by: bflynn on March 02, 2021, 07:28:09 AM
(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/066/857/615/original/1d5b9edce4ed3c36.jpeg)
I'm sure a lot of people think this was clever. I look at it as a strawman - there is literally nobody that this fits.
There's 3 groups, not intended to perfectly align with the political spectrum:
1) Left: don't believe a murder was committed.
2) Middle: are open to seeing if a murder was committed, but the evidence so far doesn't show it. Personally, I'm waiting to see what the ballot analysis looks like.
3) Right: Are positive mass murders were committed, that they know who did it, in what rooms and with which weapons. It must be true because if it's not then Trump really did get beat by Joe "Sunset" Biden.
In the United States, we make an assumption of innocence unless you can prove it. The evidence presented so far isn't proof. If you find someone sitting on top of a body beating on his chest, you can't assume a murder was committed.
Post by: Lucifer on March 02, 2021, 07:58:14 AM
I'm sure a lot of people think this was clever. I look at it as a strawman - there is literally nobody that this fits.
There's 3 groups, not intended to perfectly align with the political spectrum:
1) Left: don't believe a murder was committed.
2) Middle: are open to seeing if a murder was committed, but the evidence so far doesn't show it. Personally, I'm waiting to see what the ballot analysis looks like.
3) Right: Are positive mass murders were committed, that they know who did it, in what rooms and with which weapons. It must be true because if it's not then Trump really did get beat by Joe "Sunset" Biden.
In the United States, we make an assumption of innocence unless you can prove it. The evidence presented so far isn't proof. If you find someone sitting on top of a body beating on his chest, you can't assume a murder was committed.
In the US we allow investigations to go forward when there is probable cause and evidence that's presented. And the evidence only needs to meet the threshold of the preponderance of the evidence.
But we have witnessed legal jujitsu in the form of standing and laches to prevent evidence from being presented. Standing being used before the election and laches being used after the election.
The amount of evidence is staggering at this point. Yet we have groups that are doing everything possible to prevent further investigations, hide evidence and even persecute anyone who wants to talk about it. And speaking of preponderance of the evidence, in a court of law hiding or destroying evidence can be considered an admission of guilt. Yet we still have states refusing to allow ballots to be examined using laughable excuses.
But we have those who are foolish in believing that now they got the result they wanted that everything will go back to normal next election cycle. Our constitution is at risk, and our country is at great risk if we allow what happened in 2020 to keep happening.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 02, 2021, 08:44:30 AM
I'm sure a lot of people think this was clever. I look at it as a strawman - there is literally nobody that this fits.
There's 3 groups, not intended to perfectly align with the political spectrum:
1) Left: don't believe a murder was committed.
2) Middle: are open to seeing if a murder was committed, but the evidence so far doesn't show it. Personally, I'm waiting to see what the ballot analysis looks like.
3) Right: Are positive mass murders were committed, that they know who did it, in what rooms and with which weapons. It must be true because if it's not then Trump really did get beat by Joe "Sunset" Biden.
In the United States, we make an assumption of innocence unless you can prove it. The evidence presented so far isn't proof. If you find someone sitting on top of a body beating on his chest, you can't assume a murder was committed.
you are missing the whole problem of the processes not being followed.
If evidence that the quality control processes for the production of a vaccine were missing or if there was evidence that the quality control processes weren't followed, do we
a) completely ignore it because no one has proved a problem with the production lot
b) question the viability of the production lot
c) work to improve the quality control processes
d) both b and c
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 02, 2021, 11:13:41 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 02, 2021, 11:29:48 AM
Plain and simple, why are some states putting up such a fight about allowing ballots to be examined?
I think it is sometimes either just to assert power or to cover asses in case problems are found. In Arizona the GOP controlled Maricopa county board of supervisors was claiming a state senate subpoena for access to 2.1 million ballots and access to voting equipment was invalid. Last Friday a judge found the subpoena valid and the ballots and equipment must be made available to the Arizona senate:
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/election-2020-arizona/2021/02/26/id/1011716/ (https://www.newsmax.com/politics/election-2020-arizona/2021/02/26/id/1011716/)
Post by: Lucifer on March 02, 2021, 11:50:33 AM
I think it is sometimes either just to assert power or to cover asses in case problems are found. In Arizona the GOP controlled Maricopa county board of supervisors was claiming a state senate subpoena for access to 2.1 million ballots and access to voting equipment was invalid. Last Friday a judge found the subpoena valid and the ballots and equipment must be made available to the Arizona senate:
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/election-2020-arizona/2021/02/26/id/1011716/ (https://www.newsmax.com/politics/election-2020-arizona/2021/02/26/id/1011716/)
One would think they would want to know if problems were found. An old saying, the more one tries to cover up shit the worse it smells.
That's true here. They have gone to such extremes to prevent an investigation, that now this action raises even more concerns.
Make no mistake, they (Maricopa Board of Supervisors) know where the problems are, hence why they are fighting this. Same goes in other states where ballots are being kept locked away.
Post by: Number7 on March 02, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
I'm sure a lot of people think this was clever. I look at it as a strawman - there is literally nobody that this fits.
There's 3 groups, not intended to perfectly align with the political spectrum:
1) Left: don't believe a murder was committed.
2) Middle: are open to seeing if a murder was committed, but the evidence so far doesn't show it. Personally, I'm waiting to see what the ballot analysis looks like.
3) Right: Are positive mass murders were committed, that they know who did it, in what rooms and with which weapons. It must be true because if it's not then Trump really did get beat by Joe "Sunset" Biden.
In the United States, we make an assumption of innocence unless you can prove it. The evidence presented so far isn't proof. If you find someone sitting on top of a body beating on his chest, you can't assume a murder was committed.
Sorry but your diatribe is utter bullshit, comparable to the rest of the bullshit you use to avoid admitting that you called it wrong from the start.
Post by: bflynn on March 02, 2021, 01:19:41 PM
Sorry but your diatribe
Except it isn't a diatribe, aka a forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something.
I'm not bitter, I'm not forceful and I'm not attacking anyone. I'm merely pointing out the strawman nature of the post. There is nobody who believes a crime was committed and is dedicated to ignoring it.
This is what a diatribe looks like:
Sorry but your diatribe is utter bullshit, comparable to the rest of the bullshit you use to avoid admitting that you called it wrong from the start.
BTW, I haven't called it wrong, I haven't called it at all. I'm still looking.
Post by: bflynn on March 02, 2021, 01:22:07 PM
Plain and simple, why are some states putting up such a fight about allowing ballots to be examined?
I don't know? Maybe they don't want to put up with the cost? Maybe they're embarrassed at how badly they might have screwed up their elections and people are afraid of being punished for it? Today's environment is zero tolerance for screwing up.
Maybe they're hiding something, but I think you can only jump to that if you have already concluded guilt.
Post by: bflynn on March 02, 2021, 01:25:36 PM
do we
a) completely ignore it because no one has proved a problem with the production lot
b) question the viability of the production lot
c) work to improve the quality control processes
d) both b and c
Obviously B and C.
It is being questioned, but not by the people in power. They're being forced to confront it, aka, you're fighting city hall.
I'm a little disturbed that I don't see anyone working on fixing the complaints that have been raised. At the worst there has been fraud, at the best there is significant disenfranchisement through making people distrust elections.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 02, 2021, 03:36:30 PM
I don't know? Maybe they don't want to put up with the cost? Maybe they're embarrassed at how badly they might have screwed up their elections and people are afraid of being punished for it? Today's environment is zero tolerance for screwing up.Here in Georgia it will be up to Garland's group to cover the expense of the analysis of the ballots.
Maybe they're hiding something, but I think you can only jump to that if you have already concluded guilt.
I do wonder if while time is being bought fighting in court if anyone else has access to those ballots.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 02, 2021, 04:02:26 PM
Here in Georgia it will be up to Garland's group to cover the expense of the analysis of the ballots.
I do wonder if while time is being bought fighting in court if anyone else has access to those ballots.
I'm sure that the integrity of the ballots will be protected...
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 02, 2021, 04:05:30 PM
I'm sure that the integrity of the ballots will be protected...Supposedly the court controls them, not that that means anything....
Post by: Lucifer on March 07, 2021, 11:41:05 AM
Nothing screams guilt louder than destroying evidence.
Post by: Number7 on March 07, 2021, 12:34:30 PM
Now Maricopa County is destroying ballots before they can be examined.
Nothing screams guilt louder than destroying evidence.
Nothing screams corrupt more than democrat party.
Post by: Little Joe on March 07, 2021, 12:46:46 PM
If that were true, then you'd have to believe that HRC was guilty.
Nothing screams guilt louder than destroying evidence.
Oh wait!
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 07, 2021, 02:37:23 PM
Nothing screams corrupt more than democrat party.I thought Federal regulations called for keeping ballots for 22 months.
Post by: Lucifer on March 07, 2021, 02:39:43 PM
I thought Federal regulations called for keeping ballots for 22 months.
They do. But because the people who are fighting to stop anyone from examining the ballots are so transparent, they feel it's best to destroy them before that can happen. After all, they believe they are right, and justified.
Destroying evidence is an admission of guilt.
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2021, 03:05:34 PM
They do. But because the people who are fighting to stop anyone from examining the ballots are so transparent, they feel it's best to destroy them before that can happen. After all, they believe they are right, and justified.
Destroying evidence is an admission of guilt.
You can admit guilt all you want but it takes a court to convict anybody and since the Democrats flat out admitted they had a conspiracy USING THAT VERY WORD to make sure the election went their way, they must be confident no court will do anything, and that was sewn up with the SC refusal to hear Texas vs Pennsylvania, et al. Which by the way is the only type case the SC is obligated to take (State vs State).
They admit guilt by destroying evidence right and left, and then publish their admission of guilt in Time Magazine. They’re bragging about it knowing nobody can do a goddamn thing about it.
I don’t know what’s more evil, the destruction of our representative republic by destroying our election integrity or the destruction of our economy by covid shutdowns, either way, in 2020 the Democrats displayed the worst widespread evil I have ever seen in my lifetime and that includes Vietnam. At least we thought we were doing the right thing in Vietnam. THIS is deliberate, calculated evil against the will and the prosperity of our own people and the freedom and future of all our progeny.
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 07, 2021, 03:08:07 PM
(I watched it at 1.75 times normal speed and still could follow it.)
Post by: Lucifer on March 07, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
You can admit guilt all you want but it takes a court to convict anybody and since the Democrats flat out admitted they had a conspiracy USING THAT VERY WORD to make sure the election went their way, they must be confident no court will do anything, and that was sewn up with the SC refusal to hear Texas vs Pennsylvania, et al. Which by the way is the only type case the SC is obligated to take (State vs State).
They admit guilt by destroying evidence right and left, and then publish their admission of guilt in Time Magazine. They’re bragging about it knowing nobody can do a goddamn thing about it.
I don’t know what’s more evil, the destruction of our representative republic by destroying our election integrity or the destruction of our economy by covid shutdowns, either way, in 2020 the Democrats displayed the worst widespread evil I have ever seen in my lifetime and that includes Vietnam. At least we thought we were doing the right thing in Vietnam. THIS is deliberate, calculated evil against the will and the prosperity of our own people and the freedom and future of all our progeny.
COUP D'ÉTAT
noun, plural coups d'é·tat [koo dey-tahz; French koo dey-ta].
a sudden and decisive action in politics, especially one resulting in a change of government illegally or by force.
This is why DC has been militarized. This is why the DCP is raiding the treasury to fund all their pet projects, and writing illegal laws to force voting to always favor them. This is why the borders have been opened up, and this is why fedgov never wants to let go of covidiocy.
We have roughly 15 months to put a stop to this. Government has become the enemy of the people and no longer fears the vote. Take a look at Rep Cheney, Sen McConnell and the other scumbags.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 07, 2021, 05:09:54 PM
Post by: Little Joe on March 08, 2021, 06:50:53 AM
How do you do that? I can move the slider bar to jump further or hit the 10 (or 15) second forward or backward skip, but I can't speed up the video. And even back in the day when VCRs could do that, you couldn't speed it up and still hear the audio. Does it take a special type of computer, or OS, or some app? I'd love to be able to speed up a whole bunch of videos.
(I watched it at 1.75 times normal speed and still could follow it.)
Post by: Lucifer on March 08, 2021, 07:09:02 AM
Post by: texasag93 on March 08, 2021, 09:33:13 AM
How do you do that? I can move the slider bar to jump further or hit the 10 (or 15) second forward or backward skip, but I can't speed up the video. And even back in the day when VCRs could do that, you couldn't speed it up and still hear the audio. Does it take a special type of computer, or OS, or some app? I'd love to be able to speed up a whole bunch of videos.
To the left of the YOUTUBE logo, there is a gear (settings). Left click, select playback speed.... .25, .5, .75, Normal, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, or 2.
It is available with pod casts, EIB, YouTube.....
Post by: Little Joe on March 08, 2021, 11:44:37 AM
To the left of the YOUTUBE logo, there is a gear (settings). Left click, select playback speed.... .25, .5, .75, Normal, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, or 2.Cool. Thanks.
It is available with pod casts, EIB, YouTube.....
That will make watching most videos much more tolerable.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 11, 2021, 11:28:10 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 15, 2021, 08:54:49 AM
Latest update from Garland.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 15, 2021, 03:41:03 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/media-misquoted-trump-phone-call-georgia-investigator (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/media-misquoted-trump-phone-call-georgia-investigator)
This has now shown up also.
Post by: Number7 on March 15, 2021, 04:54:35 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 21, 2021, 08:47:59 PM
They will be allowed to inspect the Fulton county ballots and have asked for:
(1) Visual inspection
(2) Forensic inspection
(3) Dominion ballot images
(4) Standard election report the county uses for the Dominion machines
They will be inspecting 147,000 mail-in ballots out of 550,000 cast.
The winning margin was just under 12,000. If problems are found with the Dominion counts that could open up legal avenues to inspect ballots in other counties.
They must produce a plan of inspection (which they have been working on) and present it to the judge by Thursday. Garland believes they have a plan he thinks judge will like. The judge has directed a Special Master preside over the audit and has picked a retired judge that neither Garland’s group or the opposing side object to.
(Another case is in Gwinnett county GA about a suspicious judicial race - only 100 votes involved, is still ongoing.)
April 26th is likely the earliest the audit can start, given timelines for submissions, time allowed for objections, and so on.
I was not aware of one item mentioned: Project Veritas had a legal win in a defamation lawsuit against the New York Times so they can proceed. Described here: https://www.projectveritas.com/news/victory-court-delivers-huge-win-for-project-veritas-against-the-new-york/ (https://www.projectveritas.com/news/victory-court-delivers-huge-win-for-project-veritas-against-the-new-york/)
As usual, the update is long and winding, but various details and tidbits are scattered within. E.g. one of the people watching on the live chat was with an overseas news organization who was interested in the litigation. It seems others elsewhere in the world think the election is suspect.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 22, 2021, 04:41:33 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 27, 2021, 07:04:34 AM
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/22/980023007/democrats-reviewing-whether-to-overturn-a-certified-iowa-u-s-house-election
narrow election win for a *gasp* Republican (Mariannette Miller-Meeks), Miller-Meeks wins the recount, Hart didn't pursue a challenge in the Iowa courts.
Now the congresscritters are looking at overturning those results.
Democrats epitomize hypocrisy
Post by: Lucifer on March 27, 2021, 08:17:49 AM
Suddenly the democrats want to overturn the results of a 2020 election.
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/22/980023007/democrats-reviewing-whether-to-overturn-a-certified-iowa-u-s-house-election
narrow election win for a *gasp* Republican (Mariannette Miller-Meeks), Miller-Meeks wins the recount, Hart didn't pursue a challenge in the Iowa courts.
Now the congresscritters are looking at overturning those results.
Democrats epitomize hypocrisy
If we had a functioning government, and a functioning Republican Party this wouldn’t even be a topic.
The speaker does not have the authority to over turn a state level election. She’s drunk on power and emboldened by the cowering republicans.
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 27, 2021, 09:02:47 AM
If we had a functioning government, and a functioning Republican Party this wouldn’t even be a topic.
The speaker does not have the authority to over turn a state level election. She’s drunk on power and emboldened by the cowering republicans.
What specifically should the Republicans be doing that they aren’t already doing?
Post by: Lucifer on March 27, 2021, 09:45:11 AM
What specifically should the Republicans be doing that they aren’t already doing?
What are they doing? Their typical Sabre rattling?
You have to give the DCP credit in one area in which they are consistent. That is staying in lockstep.
The republicans have too many RINO’s to ever accomplish that.
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 27, 2021, 10:21:55 AM
What are they doing? Their typical Sabre rattling?
You have to give the DCP credit in one area in which they are consistent. That is staying in lockstep.
The republicans have too many RINO’s to ever accomplish that.
Still waiting for for specifics on what they should be doing that they aren't doing.
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 28, 2021, 08:29:43 PM
Post by: Rush on March 29, 2021, 04:22:25 AM
Post by: Anthony on March 29, 2021, 04:54:56 AM
Lack of forensic access to the Dominion machines means lack of transparency and the fact that the USSC signaled zero interest in fixing this thing means our country is dead, we will never have a fair election again. It’s impossible without transparency with the vote machines, among other things.
That's why I think we will have an internal shooting war during our lifetimes.
Post by: Lucifer on March 29, 2021, 05:08:36 AM
That's why I think we will have an internal shooting war during our lifetimes.
I don't see shooting. I do see a breakup of the US. Free states who've had enough will start seceding, and fedgov won't be able to stop it. Once fedgov gets cutoff from the money supply, and the credit dries up it's lights out for them.
The free states have resources and infrastructure to continue on, whereas the blue shitholes have massive poverty and not much to offer.
The only thing that can prevent this will be a Convention of the States.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 29, 2021, 05:43:43 AM
a little bit of trivia, to win a seat, the threshold was the candidate has to receive at least 50 votes. Lacking a winner, the state committee held a caucus and nominated the candidate (Greene) that actually received the fewest votes. hmmmm. Once the 167 "found" ballots were counted, all 3 candidates received at least 50 votes, but Greene still had the lowest. hmmmmmm.
Boston Election officials were unavailable for comment. SURPRISE!
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 29, 2021, 05:50:35 AM
Post by: Username on March 29, 2021, 06:23:11 AM
I don't see shooting. I do see a breakup of the US. Free states who've had enough will start seceding, and fedgov won't be able to stop it. Once fedgov gets cutoff from the money supply, and the credit dries up it's lights out for them.What can the mostly free states do? Illinois is mostly free except for Chicago and East St. Louis. Wisconsin is mostly free except for Madison and Milwaukee. Even California is mostly free except for LA and the Bay Area. Right thinking people in those states are at the mercy of their states' big cities. What can people in those states do to split from their shithole cities?
Post by: Lucifer on March 29, 2021, 06:33:29 AM
What can the mostly free states do? Illinois is mostly free except for Chicago and East St. Louis. Wisconsin is mostly free except for Madison and Milwaukee. Even California is mostly free except for LA and the Bay Area. Right thinking people in those states are at the mercy of their states' big cities. What can people in those states do to split from their shithole cities?
Right now there is a group in California that wants to split the state away from LA and SF. In Eastern Washington they are talking about splitting off from the western side, and in eastern Oregon they want to split off and join Idaho.
I see it as a domino effect. Once a state (such as Texas) says we've had it and declares independence, many more will follow. The states such as California with a large conservative segment? Hard to say, depends on the support from the departed free states.
Places like NYC? All I can think of is the old movie "Escape from NY".
Post by: Anthony on March 29, 2021, 07:32:46 AM
Post by: Rush on March 29, 2021, 07:46:33 AM
He did say the public would have access to the ballot images. Why any state would contract with any software company like Dominion with requiring having a panel of experts, under NDA, examine the code is beyond me.
Because the people contracting aren't the "state", they are individuals in the city in charge of administering voting, and do they get kickbacks from Dominion?
Post by: Rush on March 29, 2021, 07:49:30 AM
I don't see shooting. I do see a breakup of the US. Free states who've had enough will start seceding, and fedgov won't be able to stop it. Once fedgov gets cutoff from the money supply, and the credit dries up it's lights out for them.
The free states have resources and infrastructure to continue on, whereas the blue shitholes have massive poverty and not much to offer.
The only thing that can prevent this will be a Convention of the States.
The blue shitholes do have millions and millions of desperate people unable to feed themselves without the free states and when we split and cut off their supply we can expect hordes like in the Walking Dead coming after us for our food. We need walls.
Post by: Lucifer on March 29, 2021, 08:11:25 AM
The blue shitholes do have millions and millions of desperate people unable to feed themselves without the free states and when we split and cut off their supply we can expect hordes like in the Walking Dead coming after us for our food. We need walls.
Just a quick guess, but if and when the time comes, I can see the free states not having "open borders" like the blue shitholes want.
Besides, the blue shitholes can just get China and the UN to come in and give them aid, right? ;)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 01, 2021, 05:12:28 PM
https://t.co/6YIuokiCYv?amp=1 (https://t.co/6YIuokiCYv?amp=1)
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 04, 2021, 09:53:19 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 04, 2021, 04:10:35 PM
Not sure how you can apply a new law to a past election. Watch this.
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 04, 2021, 08:32:40 PM
An interesting development and, I believe, what might have been the rush to get SB202 passed and signed so quickly. It looks like the SOS is going to try and use the law to prevent Garland's group from gaining access to the actual ballots by saying the law allows public access to the images.
Not sure how you can apply a new law to a past election. Watch this.
I found the news of the GA SoS’s filing here, among a few other places: https://www.independentsentinel.com/georgia-sos-raffensperger-files-brief-to-weaken-audit-of-ballots/ (https://www.independentsentinel.com/georgia-sos-raffensperger-files-brief-to-weaken-audit-of-ballots/)
I got around to finding and watching the lawyer in action that impressed Favorito, and agree with one commentator to the video that they shouldn’t have fast-forwarded the defending attorney’s reply:
Post by: bflynn on April 05, 2021, 05:57:02 AM
Nobody in the world would call that an audit, it would be a propaganda show. Or a coverup.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 05, 2021, 07:49:48 AM
Post by: Lucifer on April 05, 2021, 08:24:29 AM
It is amazing how hard these election boards are fighting this stuff. Almost makes you think they have something to hide.
Almost? ;)
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 11, 2021, 04:00:56 PM
(1) They went over the falsehoods in the brief filed by the GA SoS. Essentially bogus. Monica provided this link that dissects the filed brief: https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2021/04/09/ga-sos-raffensperger-amicus-brief-denying-election-fraud-doesnt-hold-water-is-riddled-with-deceit/ (https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2021/04/09/ga-sos-raffensperger-amicus-brief-denying-election-fraud-doesnt-hold-water-is-riddled-with-deceit/)
(2) Their audit plan has been submitted to the court and they are expecting a decision on Tuesday the 13th. If it goes their way it looks like the audit will begin on the 26th.
(3) Someone allegedly tried to pay $10 million to one of their forensic experts for him to not join in their audit. Garland says he was indirectly offered $1.5 million to back off.
(4) Somebody mentioned not finding info of the state of the ballot lawsuit in Michigan and so the name of the law firm involved in the Michigan ballot lawsuit was identified and I found their website, which contains info on that case: https://www.depernolaw.com/
Post by: Little Joe on April 11, 2021, 04:35:39 PM
Garland says he was indirectly offered $1.5 million to back off.He should have taken the money and gone to see a dentist about those teeth.
Post by: Lucifer on April 12, 2021, 12:38:05 PM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/sidney-powell-7.jpg)
Post by: Rush on April 12, 2021, 01:05:08 PM
Sidney Powell, in an interview discussing the vote fraud in Arizona opined; “Just realize they took the two most pathetic candidates in the history of the Democratic Party. A vice president who didn’t even win a primary in her own state. And a demented pervert, among other things, who can’t even tie his own shoelaces or know where he is and they crammed them up our nose with a fork of fraud so blatant that it is visible around the world.”
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/sidney-powell-7.jpg)
She is so articulate and awesome. She fought so hard. No doubt paying a terrible price, who knows what misery the fascist libs are putting her through.
Post by: nddons on April 12, 2021, 01:52:30 PM
She is so articulate and awesome. She fought so hard. No doubt paying a terrible price, who knows what misery the fascist libs are putting her through.She has irritated me though by building thing s up and letting us down. I remember that long press conference with her and Rudy. Detail after detail - I was waiting for the announcement that the DOJ was about to arrest some people. Then nothing. Poof.
Post by: Little Joe on April 12, 2021, 02:10:16 PM
She has irritated me though by building thing s up and letting us down. I remember that long press conference with her and Rudy. Detail after detail - I was waiting for the announcement that the DOJ was about to arrest some people. Then nothing. Poof.That was the moment I gave up hope that the election fraud investigation was going anywhere and the realization set in that we were condemned to 4 years of liberal bullshit.
Post by: Lucifer on April 12, 2021, 02:23:17 PM
She has irritated me though by building thing s up and letting us down. I remember that long press conference with her and Rudy. Detail after detail - I was waiting for the announcement that the DOJ was about to arrest some people. Then nothing. Poof.
Give her credit for trying. She was stonewalled by the DoJ, the courts, the states and even some inside the WH.
Her collection of evidence is quite amazing, the problem was the courts who played legal jujitsu with latches and standings to avoid actually looking at the evidence.
Post by: Rush on April 12, 2021, 02:56:01 PM
Give her credit for trying. She was stonewalled by the DoJ, the courts, the states and even some inside the WH.
Her collection of evidence is quite amazing, the problem was the courts who played legal jujitsu with latches and standings to avoid actually looking at the evidence.
Yes. She had all her shit together. It was all the rest of them you list that refused to get on board and fix the mess. She did her part. She didn’t deliberately mislead us, we all thought somebody along the line would do the right thing. Especially the Supreme Court, I didn’t imagine they’d betray us. I’m not annoyed with her, I’m very annoyed with them.
Post by: Anthony on April 12, 2021, 03:14:06 PM
Almost? ;)
The green was not included, but I assumed he was being facetious. ;D
Post by: Anthony on April 12, 2021, 03:19:58 PM
She has irritated me though by building thing s up and letting us down. I remember that long press conference with her and Rudy. Detail after detail - I was waiting for the announcement that the DOJ was about to arrest some people. Then nothing. Poof.
There is way too much money and power behind the Democrats and installation of Biden/Harris. China, BIG TECH, BIG MEDIA (Comcast, Disney, the rest of Hollywood, etc), Bill Gates, Soros, BIG PUBLIC and private UNIONS, etc. It is so lopsided its not funny. That's why nothing short of drastic action will work to dislodge these tyrants. They are now ROYALTY.
Post by: Rush on April 12, 2021, 05:02:17 PM
There is way too much money and power behind the Democrats and installation of Biden/Harris. China, BIG TECH, BIG MEDIA (Comcast, Disney, the rest of Hollywood, etc), Bill Gates, Soros, BIG PUBLIC and private UNIONS, etc. It is so lopsided its not funny. That's why nothing short of drastic action will work to dislodge these tyrants. They are now ROYALTY.
Tarl Warwick keeps talking about upcoming elections as if they’re going to be legitimate.
Post by: Anthony on April 12, 2021, 05:17:28 PM
Tarl Warwick keeps talking about upcoming elections as if they’re going to be legitimate.
That ship has sailed. We are on the Titanic. >:(
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 12, 2021, 07:24:04 PM
BTW, go see "The Girl Who Believes in Miracles"
Post by: Mr Pou on April 13, 2021, 04:35:11 AM
That was the moment I gave up hope that the election fraud investigation was going anywhere and the realization set in that we were condemned to 4 years of liberal bullshit.
Quite possibly a lifetime of liberal bullshit. You think they went to this much risk and expense for just one term?
Post by: Little Joe on April 13, 2021, 04:53:31 AM
Quite possibly a lifetime of liberal bullshit. You think they went to this much risk and expense for just one term?I continue to hold on to the idea that Rs will retake the House and Senate in 2022.
I have heard too many times that one party or the other is dead, but then it rises from the ashes.
Post by: Lucifer on April 13, 2021, 06:11:59 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on April 13, 2021, 06:17:33 AM
Post by: Little Joe on April 13, 2021, 12:32:12 PM
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2021, 12:55:12 PM
If we want to pass election reform, we need the Republicans to adopt all the methods of cheating that the Dems used. Then the Democrats will demand the types of reform the Rs are now calling for.Republican voters are rule followers and generally don’t want to risk prison. It will never work. But I agree that’s what we should do.
Post by: elwood blues on April 13, 2021, 01:01:38 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 13, 2021, 03:20:54 PM
Another update on the Fulton county ballot lawsuit.
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(2) Their audit plan has been submitted to the court and they are expecting a decision on Tuesday the 13th. If it goes their way it looks like the audit will begin on the 26th.
The hearing today was recorded. I watched the first few minutes and skipped to near end when I saw a comment added to the video by Garland “Court grants petitioners access to ballot images, continues hearing on ballot inspection”
If I follow correctly, looks like the judge is putting off deciding access to the actual ballots till after inspection of the images.
Post by: bflynn on April 13, 2021, 04:19:38 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 13, 2021, 06:15:00 PM
The hearing today was recorded. I watched the first few minutes and skipped to near end when I saw a comment added to the video by Garland “Court grants petitioners access to ballot images, continues hearing on ballot inspection”Nothing can be proven without the actual ballots.
If I follow correctly, looks like the judge is putting off deciding access to the actual ballots till after inspection of the images.
Post by: Lucifer on April 14, 2021, 04:41:49 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 14, 2021, 07:47:37 AM
It is interesting that he has only released the images at this point in time. Not sure what Garland's group will do now.
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 14, 2021, 12:59:32 PM
I watched the whole hearing this morning. I notice the county/state attorney try to conflate the whole issue of scanning by saying that an audit was already performed using state sanctioned scanners. They were finally set straight that there was audit being conducted, no counting of ballots but rather a determination trying to be made of the validity of the ballots.
It is interesting that he has only released the images at this point in time. Not sure what Garland's group will do now.
Garland did an interview with several youtubers yesterday and he seems confident that they will eventually get access to the original ballots. He thinks the judge delayed a decision on release of them because voterGA submitted some changes to their audit plans that the judge hadn’t fully reviewed and also because of the late submission of the SoS brief. Garland now thinks there may not even be scanned images because Gwinnett county was ordered to release ballot images and it has indicated they may not have ready access to images, and possibly not at all (there is a separate ballot audit court case in that county.) So the same problem may be true of Fulton. That could be good or bad - good because it would likely expedite access to the original ballots and throw shade on the election process integrity - bad because one thing they’d look for is unfolded mail-in ballots but someone could go in and fold them prior to the audit. Early scanned images could be compared with the actual ballots and signs of changes in folding could be detected, showing post-count tampering of the original ballots.
Post by: Lucifer on April 16, 2021, 05:06:37 AM
Post by: Lucifer on April 19, 2021, 11:06:53 AM
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@JovanHuttonPulitzer
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What the Main Stream News DOES NOT report upon! To date since the November election there have been 85 election fraud cases brought. Judges threw out a couple dozen on technicalities. About 35-40 still working their way through the system. But 22 have been decided. Of those 22, the courts have found, “Yes there was election fraud!” IN 68% OF THOSE CASES!
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 19, 2021, 11:09:02 AM
From GABIt would be nice to have specifics
Post by: Lucifer on April 19, 2021, 11:18:03 AM
It would be nice to have specifics
https://gab.com/JovanHuttonPulitzer/posts/106075627242815890
Post by: Little Joe on April 19, 2021, 12:19:00 PM
From GAB68% of 22 cases is 15 cases. Unless each of those cases represent 100s of thousands of stolen votes, then the total is meaningless. I want them to prove that enough votes were fraudulent to turn the election.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 19, 2021, 12:34:27 PM
Post by: Little Joe on April 19, 2021, 12:48:14 PM
small steps. Those 15 cases aren't the end of this.I hope not.
Post by: Lucifer on April 19, 2021, 01:34:49 PM
68% of 22 cases is 15 cases. Unless each of those cases represent 100s of thousands of stolen votes, then the total is meaningless. I want them to prove that enough votes were fraudulent to turn the election.
I believe the point he was making was there is progress, and that the MSM is not reporting on the cases that have shown fraud.
Post by: nddons on April 19, 2021, 02:06:25 PM
68% of 22 cases is 15 cases. Unless each of those cases represent 100s of thousands of stolen votes, then the total is meaningless. I want them to prove that enough votes were fraudulent to turn the election.Who needs hundreds of thousands?
Trump lost by 38 EVs.
He lost:
AZ by 0.31% - 10,457 votes. 11 EV
GA by 0.24% - 11,779 votes. 16 EV
NV by 2.39% - 33,596 votes. 6 EV
PA by 1.16% - 80,555 votes. 20 EV
WI by 0.63% - 20,682 votes. 10 EV
Any 3 or 4 out of those 5 brings us President Trump.
Post by: Little Joe on April 19, 2021, 02:15:33 PM
Who needs hundreds of thousands?Ok. But we still need more than 15 votes, and I'm sure that each case includes many more than that. But how many? And we don't even know which direction those 15 cases leaned. Were they ALL Democrat frauds? If so, I find a little bias in that too.
Trump lost by 38 EVs.
He lost:
AZ by 0.31% - 10,457 votes. 11 EV
GA by 0.24% - 11,779 votes. 16 EV
NV by 2.39% - 33,596 votes. 6 EV
PA by 1.16% - 80,555 votes. 20 EV
WI by 0.63% - 20,682 votes. 10 EV
Any 3 or 4 out of those 5 brings us President Trump.
Don't get me wrong. I'd pitch a 3 day drunk if they found legally sufficient proof of fraudulent democrat votes to prove a stolen election. But so far, I have seen nothing of the sort. Hell. I might pitch one anyway.
Post by: nddons on April 19, 2021, 02:25:22 PM
Ok. But we still need more than 15 votes, and I'm sure that each case includes many more than that. But how many? And we don't even know which direction those 15 cases leaned. Were they ALL Democrat frauds? If so, I find a little bias in that too.I’m not saying the election will ever be overturned. It’s over. I’m saying that it doesn’t take finding “hundreds of thousands” of votes to prove election-changing fraud. That’s the argument made by democrats for ridiculing Republicans’ efforts to highlight voter fraud.
Don't get me wrong. I'd pitch a 3 day drunk if they found legally sufficient proof of fraudulent democrat votes to prove a stolen election. But so far, I have seen nothing of the sort. Hell. I might pitch one anyway.
Post by: Little Joe on April 19, 2021, 03:59:05 PM
I’m not saying the election will ever be overturned. It’s over. I’m saying that it doesn’t take finding “hundreds of thousands” of votes to prove election-changing fraud. That’s the argument made by democrats for ridiculing Republicans’ efforts to highlight voter fraud.It's a good argument. We have to prove it. So far, we haven't. (emphasis on "so far")
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 19, 2021, 04:36:57 PM
Post by: Lucifer on April 20, 2021, 05:11:48 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 26, 2021, 08:48:28 PM
Anyway, it looks like the Arizona ballot audit is underway (I think I saw it will takes weeks.) Here’s a video that shows the process underway and an attempt to explain it:
Post by: bflynn on April 27, 2021, 02:40:52 AM
Who needs hundreds of thousands?
Trump lost by 38 EVs.
He lost:
AZ by 0.31% - 10,457 votes. 11 EV
GA by 0.24% - 11,779 votes. 16 EV
NV by 2.39% - 33,596 votes. 6 EV
PA by 1.16% - 80,555 votes. 20 EV
WI by 0.63% - 20,682 votes. 10 EV
Any 3 or 4 out of those 5 brings us President Trump.
You won't get a Trump as president out of this. I know that's what you want, but there's zero process in the Constitution to declare fraud and install the other guy as the president. Even if Congress decided that the president had to be removed because of a fraudulent election, it would go in order of succession and the City Dog Catcher of DC comes before Trump does.
These are the states that you're looking at, but if you expand your thinking a little, you can actually get this down to under 60,000 votes, for example by including Nebraska. Makes you wonder what little thing 60,000 votes would have required, doesn't it?
Post by: Rush on April 27, 2021, 03:55:05 AM
You won't get a Trump as president out of this. I know that's what you want, but there's zero process in the Constitution to declare fraud and install the other guy as the president. Even if Congress decided that the president had to be removed because of a fraudulent election, it would go in order of succession and the City Dog Catcher of DC comes before Trump does.
These are the states that you're looking at, but if you expand your thinking a little, you can actually get this down to under 60,000 votes, for example by including Nebraska. Makes you wonder what little thing 60,000 votes would have required, doesn't it?
I doubt anyone here expects to get Trump back in office out of this. What we must do now is fix this for the future or we are a One Party State.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 27, 2021, 04:27:13 AM
It looks like the Monica Perez videos that contained updates with Garland Favorito on the Fulton County Georgia lawsuit are now private - either by her hand or Youtube’s.I believe Monica tweeted that it was You Tube's doing.
Anyway, it looks like the Arizona ballot audit is underway (I think I saw it will takes weeks.) Here’s a video that shows the process underway and an attempt to explain it:
Edit, she took them down, but in response to You Tube
https://twitter.com/MonicaPerezShow/status/1386737785550249984
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 27, 2021, 05:08:47 AM
I doubt anyone here expects to get Trump back in office out of this. What we must do now is fix this for the future or we are a One Party State.
footstomp this.
We need to fix the process so that we can actually trust that the counts are being done correctly.
Post by: Lucifer on April 27, 2021, 05:45:37 AM
Post by: Lucifer on April 27, 2021, 05:52:19 AM
I doubt anyone here expects to get Trump back in office out of this. What we must do now is fix this for the future or we are a One Party State.
footstomp this.
We need to fix the process so that we can actually trust that the counts are being done correctly.
Funny thing, the leftist talking points include the exact "You won't get a Trump as president out of this" as a way to deflect from the vote audit currently going on in Arizona.
No one is trying to alter the election outcome. What is being done is showing just how fraudulent the 2020 election actually was, hopefully expose those responsible and then, hopefully have legislation to prevent a recurrence.
This is about election integrity. And it's incredible to watch those fighting, denying and doing anything and everything to prevent it.
Post by: nddons on April 27, 2021, 08:04:56 AM
You won't get a Trump as president out of this. I know that's what you want, but there's zero process in the Constitution to declare fraud and install the other guy as the president. Even if Congress decided that the president had to be removed because of a fraudulent election, it would go in order of succession and the City Dog Catcher of DC comes before Trump does.Keep up. I said in post 699 that the election won’t be overturned, so I’m not looking forward a solution to make that happen. Jesus Christ.
These are the states that you're looking at, but if you expand your thinking a little, you can actually get this down to under 60,000 votes, for example by including Nebraska. Makes you wonder what little thing 60,000 votes would have required, doesn't it?
MY POINT was that you don’t need to find hundreds of thousands of votes to overturn. Period.
Post by: nddons on April 27, 2021, 08:05:47 AM
I doubt anyone here expects to get Trump back in office out of this. What we must do now is fix this for the future or we are a One Party State.Exactly.
Post by: bflynn on April 27, 2021, 08:34:28 PM
I doubt anyone here expects to get Trump back in office out of this.
Unfortunately, I have heard that exact sentiment expressed.
Post by: nddons on April 27, 2021, 09:19:01 PM
Unfortunately, I have heard that exact sentiment expressed.Sure, five months ago.
Post by: Little Joe on April 28, 2021, 05:03:28 AM
Unfortunately, I have heard that exact sentiment expressed.Then you shouldn't listen to MSNBC et al.
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2021, 05:35:44 AM
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2021, 05:37:46 AM
Post by: bflynn on April 28, 2021, 07:04:37 AM
Sure, five months ago.
Two weeks ago.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 28, 2021, 07:09:20 AM
Two weeks ago.
because some still want that fool out of the whitehouse doesn't mean that they speak for everyone
do you recognize that people want the election flaws fixed?
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2021, 07:11:29 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on April 30, 2021, 09:31:27 PM
I believe Monica tweeted that it was You Tube's doing.
Edit, she took them down, but in response to You Tube
https://twitter.com/MonicaPerezShow/status/1386737785550249984
In spite of that she has scheduled an update from Garland on Saturday, 3 PM ET:
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 01, 2021, 02:18:25 PM
In spite of that she has scheduled an update from Garland on Saturday, 3 PM ET:
It’s like watching a video of thread drift run amok. Fascinating in some ways - tidbits of interesting info/rumors/speculation.
Three concrete pieces of info:
(1) They are in possession of the ballot images for Fulton county GA, but have only just started looking at them.
(2) They have until May 21st to review the ballot images, at which time they return to court to present their findings and presumably argue for, or otherwise get access to, the actual ballots for a real audit.
(3) They pick up the ballot images for Gwinnett county on Monday.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 01, 2021, 02:22:49 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 01, 2021, 02:29:52 PM
Any comments on the happenings in AZ. He has some contacts there.
Not much that I recall - other than the observation that the media is trying to get out ahead of things by painting the AZ audit people as conspiracy nuts, so any ballot problems they claim to find is suspect itself.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 02, 2021, 07:24:51 AM
Post by: Rush on May 02, 2021, 10:27:59 AM
https://letsfixstuff.org/
Can't read it unless I pay money?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 02, 2021, 05:44:09 PM
Can't read it unless I pay money?It does appear some of the content requires membership of some sort.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 03, 2021, 05:10:33 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 03, 2021, 06:43:18 AM
Post by: Rush on May 03, 2021, 06:59:26 AM
Just finished watching the Garland update. There was some interesting discussion about Marjorie Taylor Greene in the last fifteen minutes or so.
I'm glad you're following this more closely than I am. I am burned out on elections stuff right now. I don't respond much to your posts but I want you to know I appreciate them and am happy somebody is following it. I look forward to one of these days you posting something about a major win.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 03, 2021, 07:14:29 AM
More Jovan Pulitzer. There may indeed be an explanation for the Chinese "FedEx" envelope, but what is it. At least he asks questions.
Post by: nddons on May 03, 2021, 07:43:43 AM
I'm glad you're following this more closely than I am. I am burned out on elections stuff right now. I don't respond much to your posts but I want you to know I appreciate them and am happy somebody is following it. I look forward to one of these days you posting something about a major win.Agreed! Thanks Eppy.
I do love how Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert are driving democrats and swamp-dwelling republicans batshit crazy.
Post by: Rush on May 03, 2021, 07:57:34 AM
Agreed! Thanks Eppy.
I do love how Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert are driving democrats and swamp-dwelling republicans batshit crazy.
Every time I see that name I hear, “Lorena Bobbitt”.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on May 03, 2021, 08:31:10 AM
Every time I see that name I hear, “Lorena Bobbitt”.
Me too. Also Ashli Babbit.
It must be a visceral response.
Post by: nddons on May 03, 2021, 08:49:10 AM
Every time I see that name I hear, “Lorena Bobbitt”.And Boebert may pull a Bobbitt if those democrats aren’t careful!
Post by: Lucifer on May 05, 2021, 05:29:11 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 05, 2021, 09:37:02 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 05, 2021, 12:46:55 PM
I think this is better than some of Garland's appearances with Monica Perez
Monica talks more than listens and has a hard time staying on subject. That was definitely a lot better interview.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 06, 2021, 10:04:30 AM
https://patriotbites.com/patriots-col-phil-waldron-jovan-hutton-pulitzer-discuss-the-arizona-forensic-audit-of-physical-ballots-voting-machines/
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 06, 2021, 02:05:45 PM
Post by: Lucifer on May 07, 2021, 05:12:32 AM
Post by: Lucifer on May 07, 2021, 10:35:46 AM
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"One wonders what this Court waits for. We failed to settle this dispute before the election & thus provide clear rules. Now we again fail to provide clear rules for future elections. The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling."-Justice Thomas
Post by: Lucifer on May 07, 2021, 10:49:45 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 07, 2021, 10:55:42 AM
" The decision to leave election law hidden beneath a shroud of doubt is baffling."-Justice Thomas"
"baffling"?
I have quite a few different words to use...
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on May 07, 2021, 11:50:05 AM
Post by: Number7 on May 07, 2021, 12:56:57 PM
Post by: Lucifer on May 07, 2021, 01:20:48 PM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on May 07, 2021, 01:26:27 PM
Post by: Lucifer on May 07, 2021, 01:45:54 PM
That was put up on the route Biped was taking when he visited Louisiana, I think it’s in New Orleans. Hope he saw it.
He probably doesn't know where he's at. :o
I'm sure they give him a squeaky toy or a coloring book to occupy him on car rides. ::)
Post by: Rush on May 07, 2021, 02:32:48 PM
That was put up on the route Biped was taking when he visited Louisiana, I think it’s in New Orleans. Hope he saw it.
If he did he forgot five minutes later.
Post by: Old Crow on May 07, 2021, 03:18:13 PM
If he did he forgot five minutes later.Or someone would have to explain it to him.
Post by: Number7 on May 07, 2021, 04:07:09 PM
I wouldn’t put anything past the criminal communist democrats.
Post by: Username on May 07, 2021, 04:22:43 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 08, 2021, 03:16:26 PM
Hard for me to summarize - some status on fights around the country, including of course Arizona. The following is a link to the amicus brief mentioned about 10 minutes into the video:
https://voterga.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/tppf-amicus-brief-unseal-paper-ballots-04.30.2021.pdf (https://voterga.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/tppf-amicus-brief-unseal-paper-ballots-04.30.2021.pdf)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 08, 2021, 06:06:15 PM
Makes one wonder what they are worried about. 8)
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 19, 2021, 06:43:25 PM
Monica Perez has already scheduled an interview with Garland on Saturday the 22nd at noon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JA_zagd3mw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JA_zagd3mw)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 21, 2021, 11:27:17 AM
Post by: Lucifer on May 21, 2021, 11:36:54 AM
Did not get to watch the hearing. John Soloman is saying the judge has granted access to the ballots. He made it sound like county employees will handle the ballots though. If that means no forensic analysis of the ballots, it will be a waste.
Take several stacks of $100 bills that equal $1 million. We suspect that at least 20% may be counterfeit. If we recount the bills we still come up with $1 million.
Forensic analysis is what finds the counterfeit.
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 21, 2021, 12:22:33 PM
Did not get to watch the hearing. John Soloman is saying the judge has granted access to the ballots. He made it sound like county employees will handle the ballots though. If that means no forensic analysis of the ballots, it will be a waste.
The ballots will still be scanned for analysis, just that the county employees will be handling them during the scanning under the observation of Voter GA forensic auditors. So it sounds like the audit analysis will include all the checks desired. The fact that ballots will be handled by county employees is actually a good thing, since that removes a line of attack being used to impugn the results the AZ auditors produce. The other thing is that unlike AZ, which is informational only, the GA audit is part of a litigation that could yield actual changes. Lastly, they have a much smaller number of ballots to review than AZ.
This guy admits part way through his video, “I know I’m weird” but he’s still informative - plus he says he’ll have Garland on later today for his take on the decision:
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 21, 2021, 12:47:09 PM
“In the hearing, lawyers for VoterGA.org described large discrepancies (21%) between the number of ballot batches reported by the GA Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger who certified the election, and the number of ballot batches actually provided by court-ordered access in the previous April hearing in the case.”
From this article: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/breaking-georgia-judge-calls-forensic-audit-fulton-county-ballots-large-discrepancies-21-found-ballot-batches/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/breaking-georgia-judge-calls-forensic-audit-fulton-county-ballots-large-discrepancies-21-found-ballot-batches/)
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 21, 2021, 07:05:35 PM
It's a good interview with Garland IMHO.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 22, 2021, 04:02:42 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 22, 2021, 10:31:54 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 24, 2021, 04:55:59 AM
The link to donate to VoterGA
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 25, 2021, 08:33:08 AM
https://americasvoice.news/video/f1gEHCHzvzGyhRc
Post by: Lucifer on May 25, 2021, 11:58:02 AM
Post by: Lucifer on May 25, 2021, 11:59:48 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 25, 2021, 12:04:20 PM
nothing to see here...
Post by: Lucifer on May 26, 2021, 05:09:16 AM
Post by: Lucifer on May 27, 2021, 04:54:57 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 27, 2021, 09:58:39 AM
https://twitter.com/KevinKelton2/status/1397725949517500418?s=20 (https://twitter.com/KevinKelton2/status/1397725949517500418?s=20)
Post by: Lucifer on May 27, 2021, 10:00:48 AM
Latest shot fired by the Government in Georgia
https://twitter.com/KevinKelton2/status/1397725949517500418?s=20 (https://twitter.com/KevinKelton2/status/1397725949517500418?s=20)
Why of course! Transparency.....or something like that.
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 29, 2021, 07:59:36 AM
Latest shot fired by the Government in Georgia
https://twitter.com/KevinKelton2/status/1397725949517500418?s=20 (https://twitter.com/KevinKelton2/status/1397725949517500418?s=20)
The attached video is a fairly information-dense interview with Garland. He addresses the claim of improper service, among other things. Sounds like they would have needed the time to fine-tune their plan anyway.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 31, 2021, 08:51:13 AM
The attached video is a fairly information-dense interview with Garland. He addresses the claim of improper service, among other things. Sounds like they would have needed the time to fine-tune their plan anyway.This was very good.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 31, 2021, 04:28:58 PM
Post by: Lucifer on May 31, 2021, 06:14:06 PM
Alarm went off at the Fulton County building where the ballots are stored, building was found open and unsecured. Any bet there is no security footage.
If the RNC was actually a functioning party, they would be providing security at these places, free of charge to the government.
Post by: bflynn on May 31, 2021, 06:53:58 PM
There are very few or maybe no independent organizations willing to get involved in this mess. Anyone with integrity won't touch it with a 10' pole.
My view right now is that government has failed to conduct elections according to the laws and certified the election when it wasn't in line. But they don't have the balls to have done anything else.
I'd still like the individuals who failed at complying with the law to be identified because otherwise the same incompetent people will run the next election and screw it up even worse.
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 31, 2021, 08:13:04 PM
Alarm went off at the Fulton County building where the ballots are stored, building was found open and unsecured. Any bet there is no security footage.
I saw elsewhere (sorry don’t have a URL handy) that the inner door to the room with the ballots was still locked. The ballot boxes are supposedly sealed and labeled and a cross-reference list exists, so it would not be easy to either remove, replace, or insert new ballots without detection. Besides, the low-res scanned images have already been released to VoterGA.
The fact that the people allegedly running ballots multiple times through counting machines were unaware they were being video recorded indicates they weren’t exactly of “Mission Impossible” planning intellect. Subsequent attempts to cover up malfeasance may suffer similar sub-par planning.
Post by: Lucifer on June 01, 2021, 05:28:24 AM
Post by: Lucifer on June 02, 2021, 04:55:36 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 02, 2021, 05:16:20 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 07, 2021, 08:39:43 AM
June 5th Update
Post by: Lucifer on June 08, 2021, 05:18:46 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 13, 2021, 09:50:12 AM
Post by: Little Joe on June 13, 2021, 01:40:33 PM
Post by: Lucifer on June 15, 2021, 05:26:25 AM
Post by: Number7 on June 15, 2021, 05:50:20 AM
This whale is what the liberals called a runway model, while accusing PRESIDENT TRUMP of being morbidly obese.
Just think about that and you will understand why liberals are referred to as stupid.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 18, 2021, 03:24:32 AM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/ga-investigators-election-day-notes-reveal-chaotic-unsecured-ballot
Chain of custody docs missing for 18,000 ballots from drop boxes.
Post by: Lucifer on June 18, 2021, 04:25:48 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 18, 2021, 04:59:47 AM
The latest from Georgia....
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/ga-investigators-election-day-notes-reveal-chaotic-unsecured-ballot
Chain of custody docs missing for 18,000 ballots from drop boxes.
18,000 ballots.
And just to remind the interested parties, what was the margin of "victory" in Georgia?
Post by: bflynn on June 18, 2021, 07:48:17 AM
They also do not have leaders with the balls to say so.
More importantly - what was the margin that sent the Senate race to a runoff?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 18, 2021, 08:25:35 AM
18,000 ballots.
And just to remind the interested parties, what was the margin of "victory" in Georgia?
Around 12,000
Post by: Jim Logajan on June 19, 2021, 03:40:01 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 20, 2021, 05:30:35 AM
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CDMedia investigators have uncovered payments by a myriad of Georgia government agencies to the temp firm ‘Happy Faces Staffing’ financed by the firm ‘Now Account’ of which Stacey Abrams (former state rep and GA gubernatorial candidate) is an owner.
The payments show the firm was also compensated by the GA governor’s office in 2020, showing work done for GA Governor Brian Kemp.
A list of 2020 payments to Happy Faces Staffing is below by GA state entities. CDMedia will report more information as it becomes available.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 21, 2021, 05:53:15 AM
https://hencoga.webex.com/webappng/sites/hencoga/meeting/info/d4800822b3e54ee3a756ebecb0d4eb48?siteurl=hencoga&MTID=m104b2b73ae6b49a2d7425dfac7157d65&meetingAuthToken=QUhTSwAAAAVpDLgfVXiLr7AS75%2Fbg9WhBs9XMcnbHuW6I6J6GoGXhOcnzz%2BO4AXy%2FprDSnV%2F2ioIQjYapZKt%2BPpQz89jrN520827ROLZNmvPZ%2BS2HywzSzFzzeOtVuhH7b7Pc%2FaQT2oHUttJLNqHVDAFws36rBZuQkbKYSEHAHqAfzaqpIDBz%2B%2BZ6hPc15n%2BFp0M6%2BEI8HpvRoI8caE4aWiH8XRLzCT1tDamwr5cHH2t2C5iU5TKQg%3D%3D
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 21, 2021, 06:07:49 AM
Post by: texasag93 on June 21, 2021, 01:06:52 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 21, 2021, 01:40:51 PM
I cannot find anything on what happened.Arguments were heard on the motion to dismiss, no ruling was made. It was rather interesting to hear the argument back and forth. Lasted about 2.5 hours. Video is probably available at the court's website.
Post by: Jim Logajan on June 21, 2021, 10:16:10 PM
The link below is a video of an interview with Garland on the hearing in which he makes the above points.
https://odysee.com/@NickMoseder:0 (https://odysee.com/@NickMoseder:0)
Up to about 14 minutes into the video and again beginning around 42 minutes Garland gives a synopsis of the legal arguments in the hearing.
The next two videos are of the hearing itself. I have only viewed a few sample segments. Audio on the first starts about 75 seconds in.
Post by: Lucifer on June 22, 2021, 04:52:27 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 22, 2021, 06:51:25 AM
snap quiz: what color should the font be?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 23, 2021, 06:42:18 AM
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After several Fulton County, Ga., poll monitors testified last year that boxes of mail-in ballots for Joe Biden looked liked they’d been run through a photocopy machine, state investigators quietly broke the seal on one suspicious box and inspected the hundreds of votes it contained for signs of fraud, RealClearInvestigations has learned exclusively.
Post by: Jim Logajan on June 23, 2021, 07:05:05 PM
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/06/22/georgia_conducting_secret_20_ballot_review_-_keeping_plaintiffs_in_the_dark_782204.html
Garland Favorito was interviewed on the revelation:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/exclusive-garland-favorito-says-georgia-officials-including-raffensperger-concealed-ballot-tampering-judge-discussing-audio/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/exclusive-garland-favorito-says-georgia-officials-including-raffensperger-concealed-ballot-tampering-judge-discussing-audio/)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 24, 2021, 03:34:19 AM
Garland Favorito was interviewed on the revelation:This gets weirder and weirder. They grilled the election lady who filed one of the affidavits. She had detailed the batch number on the pristine ballots. Gonna be hell to pay, I hope, if it turns out that exact batch was tampered with.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/exclusive-garland-favorito-says-georgia-officials-including-raffensperger-concealed-ballot-tampering-judge-discussing-audio/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/exclusive-garland-favorito-says-georgia-officials-including-raffensperger-concealed-ballot-tampering-judge-discussing-audio/)
Post by: Lucifer on June 24, 2021, 07:06:22 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 24, 2021, 07:54:04 PM
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'Huge victory': Judge names members of Fulton election board in lawsuit; ballot audit will proceed
Post by: Jim Logajan on June 27, 2021, 11:06:43 PM
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/huge-victory-judge-names-members-fulton-election-board-lawsuit-ballot-audit?utm_campaign=ligthouse&utm_content=huge-victory-judge-names-members-fulton-election-board-lawsuit-ballot-audit-will-proceed&utm_source=social-jsr&utm_medium=twitter
Update from Garland on Monica Perez weekly show. Goes over the judges decision; talks about how some in the press made it sound like a loss. Because respondents have 30 days to respond, Garland thinks it wont be till August that audit of actual ballots happens. General feeling is they are probably trying to delay as much as possible in hopes the plaintiff’s money runs out or give up in frustration. A forlorn hope.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 28, 2021, 03:31:43 AM
Post by: Lucifer on June 28, 2021, 05:40:05 AM
General feeling is they are probably trying to delay as much as possible in hopes the plaintiff’s money runs out or give up in frustration. A forlorn hope.
A typical legal strategy when the other side knows they have a losing argument. Delay, delay, delay and hope the other side runs out of money or simply gives up.
Post by: Lucifer on June 30, 2021, 05:39:49 AM
https://apnews.com/article/eric-adams-lead-shrinks-nyc-democratic-mayor-primary-0c92450b5dbb57018e2f8e15d8471a97?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
Post by: nddons on June 30, 2021, 07:43:48 AM
Gee, just an honest mistake.......no, really!I fucking hate how media no longer puts a date on their fucking datelines. And this is AP for God’s sake.
https://apnews.com/article/eric-adams-lead-shrinks-nyc-democratic-mayor-primary-0c92450b5dbb57018e2f8e15d8471a97?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 30, 2021, 08:19:19 AM
Post by: Rush on June 30, 2021, 08:53:15 AM
I fucking hate how media no longer puts a date on their fucking datelines. And this is AP for God’s sake.
You notice that too? Dates are missing on tons of online articles. Also it drives me crazy when local news media doesn’t say on the page where in the hell they are. They might say “Jefferson County”, do you know how many Jefferson Counties there are in the US? Or they just say what town it is like I know where every town in the country is located. Lots of company websites as well as local governments do this same thing.
I swear sometimes I think people don’t grasp the concept of the internet. It’s not just your local neighbors seeing your page.
Post by: Number7 on June 30, 2021, 03:35:00 PM
Some critics are raising concerns over election integrity after early results from the NYC mayoral election showed Biden winning by eighty million votes.
"Yeah, something about that seems... off," said local man Joseph Joey. "Are we sure all those election people really know what they're doing, or that they're not all corrupt and stuff?" The FBI is now investigating Joey after his far, far-right insurrectionist comments questioning the sanctity of America's holy elections.
According to sources, Biden won the mayoral race after election officials accidentally counted the 80 million Biden ballots they had stashed away in a special secret place reserved for extra Biden ballots. They have apologized for the unfortunate error.
"We are working hard to sort this out, and hope to have this all fixed soon," said NYC Election Official Tony Palermo. "In the meantime, um, please just try to remember who you voted for—just in case."
Raising Questions about NYC election fraud has been ruled by the NYC Municipal Courts as racist AND sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, misogynistic, and rude.
(https://babylonbee.com/news/concerns-raised-about-election-integrity-after-biden-wins-80-million-votes-for-nyc-mayor)
Post by: Lucifer on July 01, 2021, 06:01:03 PM
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Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 07, 2021, 06:56:28 AM
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Federal Protection of “Oath Keepers” Kingpin Stewart Rhodes Breaks The Entire Capitol “Insurrection” Lie Wide Open
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Revolver’s Jan. 6th Reporting Changed the Game: Read Our Top Jan. 6 Investigative Stories Here
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 09, 2021, 07:51:34 PM
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New Evidence Indicates Enough Illegal Votes In Georgia To Tip 2020 Results (https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/09/new-evidence-indicates-enough-illegal-votes-in-georgia-to-tip-2020-results/)
Post by: Rush on July 10, 2021, 02:43:32 AM
https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/09/new-evidence-indicates-enough-illegal-votes-in-georgia-to-tip-2020-results/
It’s so frustrating seeing all that and still the media talks about “false” allegations of fraud.
Post by: Lucifer on July 10, 2021, 06:33:53 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 10, 2021, 09:40:24 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 11, 2021, 04:26:41 AM
Post by: Rush on July 11, 2021, 05:56:53 AM
He keeps talking about the midterms and 2024 in terms of normal elections, for example, he says if Biden runs again, which is highly unlikely - he probably won’t last this term - but if he does and runs against Trump, Trump will easily beat him. He thinks if Biden doesn’t, Harris will most likely be the Dem nominee and if so she will lose. She is not well spoken and nobody likes her. It makes me very uncomfortable when he talks like that because it depends on the Dems not cheating like they did in 2020.
But he addresses this but not enough IMO in some videos, that we must fix the election problem for all his predictions to be meaningful and I get the idea he’s too optimistic that it will be. On the other hand, he does seem more optimistic than some of us on this board and that gives me a little hope. On the other other hand, I was given hope by other commentators back in December 2020 and was badly disappointed and disillusioned so I’m rather gun shy right now.
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2021, 06:25:17 AM
We still have a major voter apathy problem in this country. Fixing that is problematic. It doesn’t help that Big Tech and the MSM have gone full CCP on the control of information.
One glimmer of hope ahead is that the Biden/Harris Administration is such a dismal failure, and even centrist democrats are beginning to push back. The ongoing violence, inflation and idiotic executive orders are making many rethink this. And I don’t see a dramatic change before 2022 midterms, in fact what I see on the horizon is yet another scam like the scamdemic to once again try to take control of the election. It’s coming, make no mistake.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 11, 2021, 06:57:55 AM
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2021, 07:03:46 AM
Anyone here think Trump can get the nomination ahead of DeSantis?
Too early to tell. A lot can happen, and a lot can change between now and the summer of 2023.
Right now the focus needs to be on election integrity, without that it doesn’t matter who runs. 2020 should never happen again.
Post by: Rush on July 11, 2021, 07:21:03 AM
Election integrity is the key, same as the constitution. The state legislatorscontrolare supposed to control, but abdicated in key states, the manner and time of the elections, not the governor, the Secretary of State and certainly not the judicial.
Fixed it for you.
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We still have a major voter apathy problem in this country. Fixing that is problematic. It doesn’t help that Big Tech and the MSM have gone full CCP on the control of information.
These are huge problems, also the young are being brainwashed by the education system to hate this country’s foundations and to view defenders of the Constitution as racist extremists. But there is alternative media and the young are very adept at navigating around the internet and finding it. Big tech and MSM may not be able to completely suppress all sources. Even in China there are a bunch of young people risking prison by getting VPNs and bypassing the great firewall. Sadly, what they see in western mainstream media these days is not much better than their own state propaganda. But still, for now anyway, at least they have a chance to see alternative media.
Also minorities that Biden thinks still can’t get online, are venturing away from their local subculture (everybody is really, the internet exposes you to a world beyond your local hood) and many are rethinking their loyalty to the Democrat Party. I think the trend among blacks and Hispanics toward populism is going to continue. Hopefully despite the media bias and censorship.
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One glimmer of hope ahead is that the Biden/Harris Administration is such a dismal failure, and even centrist democrats are beginning to push back. The ongoing violence, inflation and idiotic executive orders are making many rethink this. And I don’t see a dramatic change before 2022 midterms, in fact what I see on the horizon is yet another scam like the scamdemic to once again try to take control of the election. It’s coming, make no mistake.
Yes, they’re going to try like hell for the universal mail ins under the excuse of a new deadly super delta variant or something.
And the Biden Harris administration is a horrific disaster but the media isn’t reporting the truth, for example, they’re going to spin the upcoming fall of Afghanistan as Trump’s fault when in reality it is due to Biden breaking the truce Trump made with the Taliban, which led to the Taliban responding in kind by going back on their word (word of honor is important among these people, Biden doesn’t understand that) and now the Taliban is recruiting anew among local warlords and retaking territory all over Afghanistan. We will be lucky if Kabul doesn’t fall, and it will be all due to Biden’s bungling the whole thing by breaking the USA’s promise.
But the average voter won’t know any of this. It’ll all be Trump’s fault. They are also downplaying the border crisis, the recession, the inflation, and lying to the public about Biden’s alleged popularity.
Post by: nddons on July 12, 2021, 07:06:54 PM
Anyone here think Trump can get the nomination ahead of DeSantis?I think he could. I hope he doesn’t. It would be a tough row to hoe to win the general, and he would only have 1 term. I think we need a two-term capable candidate in the Trump mode.
Post by: Rush on July 13, 2021, 03:27:36 AM
I think he could. I hope he doesn’t. It would be a tough row to hoe to win the general, and he would only have 1 term. I think we need a two-term capable candidate in the Trump mode.
If it’s Trump vs DeSantis in the primary I’m going to have a real dilemma.
Post by: Number7 on July 13, 2021, 03:34:59 AM
If it’s Trump vs DeSantis in the primary I’m going to have a real dilemma.
I look for a Trump -DeSantis ticket that fucking destroys pedo jo and his ho, or whatever freak show the communists run in 24. That would be an unbeatable ticket, no matter how crooked the communist democrats play.
Post by: Rush on July 13, 2021, 03:41:17 AM
I look for a Trump -DeSantis ticket that fucking destroys pedo jo and his ho, or whatever freak show the communists run in 24. That would be an unbeatable ticket, no matter how crooked the communist democrats play.
I’m not going to be surprised if they get physical (assassination). It’s bound to come to that. Or just a military coup, as they are now getting rid of anyone in the military not woke. Or simply arrest Trump and DeSantis for some made up charge brought by the corrupt FBI/DOJ and keep them as political prisoners until they “commit suicide”.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 14, 2021, 08:31:24 AM
Shit's getting real here in Georgia.
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/video/2021/07/13/cdms-l-todd-wood-on-war-room-to-discuss-stunning-news-out-of-georgia-election-audit/
Post by: Lucifer on July 14, 2021, 08:41:14 AM
Post by: jb1842 on July 14, 2021, 09:01:10 AM
Get ready for a false flag operation.
Mass shooting by a "white supremacist", russians hacking something, or new covid lockdowns?
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 14, 2021, 09:59:30 AM
Get ready for a false flag operation.
That’ll be tough to do since the evidence is already publicly verifiable.
Garland has been hinting at these issues for a while - and mentioned on the last Monica Perez interview that they hoped to drop a bombshell this week. My first thought was they were required to first release their results to the court before going public. But then realized that likely only applied to the claims of fraudulent ballots. These results are basic counting and summation errors, not on the claims of fraudulent ballots presented to the court.
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 14, 2021, 10:15:23 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 14, 2021, 11:29:49 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 14, 2021, 11:39:07 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 14, 2021, 11:42:10 AM
I'll try and watch it later.
It’s worth the time invested. They go into specific examples that are verifiable and therefore hard to refute. Obvious cases of duplicate ballots shown.
Post by: Rush on July 14, 2021, 11:53:52 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 14, 2021, 12:10:09 PM
There is absolutely no question Trump won. I’m glad these proceedings are happening but I am very skeptical it is ever really going to matter. My faith in U.S. elections is destroyed. They’ll have to get rid of vote machines altogether, go back to in-person paper ballots on Election Day only, with limited exceptions for overseas military and extreme hardship, voter ID required, in all 50 states for me to feel like we’re getting a true vote, and I don’t think the Democrats and establishment Republicans care enough to do that. They’ll keep things as they are as long as the ones currently on the gravy train keep getting their government paychecks.
Ah, but the fraud so far found in Fulton county Georgia appears to have had little to do with fraudulent ballots or voting machine tabulations. It appeared to be fraud performed by election workers and officials. No amount of voter ID would have thwarted the fraud that was presented in that press conference. The counting process itself was flawed along with the alleged self-audits. Favorito appears to have been saying for years the vote counting process (at least in Georgia) itself lacks chain of custody and ways to perform independent cross-checks, allowing election workers to commit fraud.
Post by: Little Joe on July 14, 2021, 12:32:20 PM
A link to a video was posted to voterga.org of the press conference where Garland Favorito announces their findings and I’ve posted it below. I’ve just started watching - first few minutes shows a TV crew interviewing Garland before the actual press conference. Comments to the video suggest audio issues at points.Is anyone else having trouble with the audio on this? I have tried it with three different browsers and I can't get the volume above a whisper.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 14, 2021, 02:20:16 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 14, 2021, 02:34:19 PM
Is anyone else having trouble with the audio on this? I have tried it with three different browsers and I can't get the volume above a whisper.
I was able to hear it through the earpods connected to my iPad using the Safari browser. I did have to turn up the volume above average. It does seem others report the same problem you have. Unfortunately it is the only video I’ve seen of the press conference. I believe a voterGA.org volunteer performs most of the video work on public events, including court cases.
Post by: Lucifer on July 14, 2021, 03:05:39 PM
"The flak is the heaviest when over the target"
https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2021-07-14.CBM%20JR%20to%20Logan-Cyber%20Ninjas%20re%20Arizona%20Election%20Audit.pdf
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 14, 2021, 05:58:14 PM
I wonder if those that signed the fraudulent tally sheets will be prosecuted?
The dude that compiled all those statistics is awesome. The hours he put in, wow!!
Post by: Lucifer on July 15, 2021, 05:42:50 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 15, 2021, 06:29:40 AM
https://rumble.com/vjuwlf-8-months-later-tucker-carlson-finally-questions-fulton-county-georgia-elect.html
I just posted this on Twitter, can't wait to see what happens. Also on Parler, Gettr, FB and MeWe.
Post by: Rush on July 15, 2021, 06:39:17 AM
The left in Congress are desperate to promote that it’s all a lie, and they have stooped to harassing the tech firm that audited AZ for no reason at all other than intimidation. I wonder if the CyberNinja CEO has received threats against his family?
Post by: Lucifer on July 15, 2021, 06:43:36 AM
I wonder if the CyberNinja CEO has received threats against his family?
You can bet he is under investigation by the IRS, and his communications have all been unmasked by various intel agencies. And you can also bet that the FBI/DoJ have an open file and investigation going on him as well.
Post by: Rush on July 15, 2021, 06:52:49 AM
You can bet he is under investigation by the IRS, and his communications have all been unmasked by various intel agencies. And you can also bet that the FBI/DoJ have an open file and investigation going on him as well.
I was thinking that too...
Post by: Lucifer on July 15, 2021, 07:04:35 AM
I was thinking that too...
The phrase "Enemy of the State" comes to mind.
We are there. Anyone who disagrees with the narrative of the DCP will be labeled and dealt with by the force of the government.
We have political prisoners being held in abysmal conditions, groups committing crimes (including murder) that do so with full immunity and we now have full surveillance of citizens. We currently have a purge of the military underway as well. And political leaders setting up their own police force (capital police) in sovereign states.
Re-education is in full swing as well. Yes folks, it's here.
Post by: nddons on July 15, 2021, 08:19:35 AM
"The flak is the heaviest when over the target"Wow. No kidding. I use that quote often and it’s perfect for that letter.
https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2021-07-14.CBM%20JR%20to%20Logan-Cyber%20Ninjas%20re%20Arizona%20Election%20Audit.pdf
Post by: Anthony on July 15, 2021, 11:01:48 AM
The phrase "Enemy of the State" comes to mind.
We are there. Anyone who disagrees with the narrative of the DCP will be labeled and dealt with by the force of the government.
We have political prisoners being held in abysmal conditions, groups committing crimes (including murder) that do so with full immunity and we now have full surveillance of citizens. We currently have a purge of the military underway as well. And political leaders setting up their own police force (capital police) in sovereign states.
Re-education is in full swing as well. Yes folks, it's here.
Yes, it's here, in spades. They want an Oligarchy and big collective, centralized Government Control. States Rights were bought off decades ago or more.
Post by: bflynn on July 15, 2021, 11:46:39 AM
Yes, it's here, in spades.
Racist. You said the S word. :P
Post by: Lucifer on July 15, 2021, 06:38:54 PM
(https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/arizona-election-fraud.jpeg)
Post by: Lucifer on July 15, 2021, 06:42:28 PM
Post by: Lucifer on July 16, 2021, 05:24:00 AM
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2021, 06:27:40 AM
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/massive-fraud-discovered-in-maricopa-county/Holy shit.
Post by: Lucifer on July 16, 2021, 07:04:52 AM
Holy shit.
Holy shit is right, and there is more to come.
So where is the RNC?? The GOP??? Notice how quiet they are?
Post by: jb1842 on July 16, 2021, 07:37:37 AM
Holy shit.
I'm saving my holy shit for when they will actually do something about the fraud. I'll believe it when I see it.
Post by: bflynn on July 16, 2021, 08:23:58 AM
I'm saving my holy shit for when I they will actually do something about the fraud. I'll believe it when I see it.
Keep holding it then. I don't think there is a path to do anything about it. Despite all the apparent cheating, there is no legal path to change any of it.
The election was certified, the question is to what standard (the answer is no standard). Constitutionally, it's a legal election, even if it was underhanded. That means all the officials correctly and constitutionally hold their office.
The only paths to remove the president is via impeachment or the 25th Amendment and that will leave you with Kamala.
The only path to removing Congressmen is expulsion by their respective houses. Anyone want to hold their breath that Democrats would do the right thing and eject a
You can take this to a court, but in doing so you'd be asking a judge to create law, something Republicans rightly complain about frequently.
In short, there is no remedy to make the cheating whole and there is apparently no will to even identify people responsible for it and therefore no path to punish anyone.
My take is that you can expect them to be bolder next time.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 16, 2021, 08:42:01 AM
The only paths to remove the president is via impeachment or the 25th Amendment and that will leave you with Kamala.
actually, if the ***** currently occupying the VP slot is impeached first, and then the clown occupying the whitehouse is impeached...
oops, have to remove that other ***** in congress first...
dang... this ain't easy.
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2021, 01:06:58 PM
Keep holding it then. I don't think there is a path to do anything about it. Despite all the apparent cheating, there is no legal path to change any of it.Why do you jump straight to what the Democrats think we expect?
The election was certified, the question is to what standard (the answer is no standard). Constitutionally, it's a legal election, even if it was underhanded. That means all the officials correctly and constitutionally hold their office.
The only paths to remove the president is via impeachment or the 25th Amendment and that will leave you with Kamala.
The only path to removing Congressmen is expulsion by their respective houses. Anyone want to hold their breath that Democrats would do the right thing and eject amemberDemocrat who was elected via fraud. You will never shame a Democrat into fixing this.
You can take this to a court, but in doing so you'd be asking a judge to create law, something Republicans rightly complain about frequently.
In short, there is no remedy to make the cheating whole and there is apparently no will to even identify people responsible for it and therefore no path to punish anyone.
My take is that you can expect them to be bolder next time.
Biden isn’t going anywhere.
But “doing something about it” for the vast majority of us means arresting, prosecuting, adjudicating and imprisoning those people who tampered with our sacred voting process. I would think 80% of Americans could get behind that.
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 16, 2021, 01:25:20 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 17, 2021, 10:40:30 AM
https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/16/election-integrity-fires-burning-in-georgia/ (https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/16/election-integrity-fires-burning-in-georgia/)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 17, 2021, 11:10:56 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 17, 2021, 11:11:55 AM
https://theatlantajournalconstitution.sharefile.com/share/view/s3c2d5cda4b5a42a88b6a76990379d181/fo8028b0-c150-45f5-911d-f9959144930e
Post by: Lucifer on July 19, 2021, 03:52:23 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 19, 2021, 02:00:55 PM
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Press-Release-GA-Audit-Would-Reveal-Other-Counties-Worse-than-Fulton.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Press-Release-GA-Audit-Would-Reveal-Other-Counties-Worse-than-Fulton.pdf)
The press release links to the Daugherty January filing and supporting exhibits:
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Michael-Daugherty-v.-GA-SOS-Brad-Raffensperger_Raphael-Warnock_Jon-Ossoff_US-Senate-Election-Challenge.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Michael-Daugherty-v.-GA-SOS-Brad-Raffensperger_Raphael-Warnock_Jon-Ossoff_US-Senate-Election-Challenge.pdf)
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Michael-Daugherty-v.-GA-SOS-Brad-Raffensperger_Raphael-Warnock_Jon-Ossoff_US-Senate-Election-Challenge_exhibits.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Michael-Daugherty-v.-GA-SOS-Brad-Raffensperger_Raphael-Warnock_Jon-Ossoff_US-Senate-Election-Challenge_exhibits.pdf)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 19, 2021, 03:04:49 PM
The Georgia case of Daugherty v. Raffensperger presumably had its first hearing today. It was actually first filed in January. As I understand it, it claims the Georgia senate elections are invalid because, among other reasons, voting machines were used that do not meet Georgia’s statutory standards. VoterGA mentions the case in a press release today that calls for a state-wide independent audit:I could not find it on Judge Amaro's Calendar nor a live stream of it.
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Press-Release-GA-Audit-Would-Reveal-Other-Counties-Worse-than-Fulton.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Press-Release-GA-Audit-Would-Reveal-Other-Counties-Worse-than-Fulton.pdf)
The press release links to the Daugherty January filing and supporting exhibits:
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Michael-Daugherty-v.-GA-SOS-Brad-Raffensperger_Raphael-Warnock_Jon-Ossoff_US-Senate-Election-Challenge.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Michael-Daugherty-v.-GA-SOS-Brad-Raffensperger_Raphael-Warnock_Jon-Ossoff_US-Senate-Election-Challenge.pdf)
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Michael-Daugherty-v.-GA-SOS-Brad-Raffensperger_Raphael-Warnock_Jon-Ossoff_US-Senate-Election-Challenge_exhibits.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Michael-Daugherty-v.-GA-SOS-Brad-Raffensperger_Raphael-Warnock_Jon-Ossoff_US-Senate-Election-Challenge_exhibits.pdf)
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 19, 2021, 03:35:32 PM
I could not find it on Judge Amaro's Calendar nor a live stream of it.
I couldn’t find it either. My guess it got postponed or otherwise cancelled. That said, Vernon Jordan did a press conference and it was recorded, but the embedded Facebook video only includes his speechifying:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/huge-georgia-residents-file-lawsuit-monday-130-pm-contesting-fraudulent-results-georgia-senate-elections/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/huge-georgia-residents-file-lawsuit-monday-130-pm-contesting-fraudulent-results-georgia-senate-elections/)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 19, 2021, 03:47:00 PM
I couldn’t find it either. My guess it got postponed or otherwise cancelled. That said, Vernon Jordan did a press conference and it was recorded, but the embedded Facebook video only includes his speechifying:Got into a bit of a Twitter feud today. A guy posted an excerpt of the Georgia General Election data that showed several batches from Douglas County, GA where Biden had 100% of the vote. Of course people got mad at it. He did include a link to the data so I downloaded the spreadsheet and found several batches where the opposite was true and posted those saying that it severely dilutes the message when you are cherry picking data. That produced quite a bunch of comments back and forth with folks.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/huge-georgia-residents-file-lawsuit-monday-130-pm-contesting-fraudulent-results-georgia-senate-elections/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/huge-georgia-residents-file-lawsuit-monday-130-pm-contesting-fraudulent-results-georgia-senate-elections/)
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 19, 2021, 03:49:57 PM
Got into a bit of a Twitter feud today. A guy posted an excerpt of the Georgia General Election data that showed several batches from Douglas County, GA where Biden had 100% of the vote. Of course people got mad at it. He did include a link to the data so I downloaded the spreadsheet and found several batches where the opposite was true and posted those saying that it severely dilutes the message when you are cherry picking data. That produced quite a bunch of comments back and forth with folks.
false flag? misdirection?
(and yes, I absolutely agree that cherry picking data is bad... unexcusable)
Post by: nddons on July 19, 2021, 06:19:23 PM
Got into a bit of a Twitter feud today. A guy posted an excerpt of the Georgia General Election data that showed several batches from Douglas County, GA where Biden had 100% of the vote. Of course people got mad at it. He did include a link to the data so I downloaded the spreadsheet and found several batches where the opposite was true and posted those saying that it severely dilutes the message when you are cherry picking data. That produced quite a bunch of comments back and forth with folks.Twitter? Never heard of her.
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 19, 2021, 06:38:01 PM
I could not find it on Judge Amaro's Calendar nor a live stream of it.
According to this news story, which includes a summary blow-by-blow account of arguments made (in reverse chronological order), Judge Amero dismissed the case because the challenge was not filed in time and that the senators were not properly served:
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/news/politics/2021/07/19/live-updates-henry-county-lawsuit-hearing-that-could-flip-us-senate-red-ongoing/ (https://creativedestructionmedia.com/news/politics/2021/07/19/live-updates-henry-county-lawsuit-hearing-that-could-flip-us-senate-red-ongoing/)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 20, 2021, 03:33:57 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 20, 2021, 08:49:46 AM
Interesting how Warnock and Ossof avoided being served for so long.
Seems to have worked, alas. Looks like a video of the court hearing was posted:
Post by: Rush on July 20, 2021, 10:55:23 AM
Seems to have worked, alas. Looks like a video of the court hearing was posted:
The speech at the end was about all I followed. I listened to it while I was trying to work. Too bad there was traffic.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 22, 2021, 06:47:49 AM
https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:483b04d2-6ae9-41cc-bd05-fc2015df6cd5#pageNum=1
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 22, 2021, 08:32:29 AM
David Cross has been at the forefront of examining ballot images here in the state of Georgia. Here is a sample of what he has found. He can be followed on Twitter (@GABallots)
https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:483b04d2-6ae9-41cc-bd05-fc2015df6cd5#pageNum=1
Looks like a possibility of old fashioned incompetence, since Trump and Kayne West got duplicate votes. My understanding is Fulton county tends to vote Democratic (correct me if I’m wrong) so any duplication of any batch of ballots will favor Democrats. Of course if a person knows that trend or otherwise knows a batch favors one candidate then they could duplicate it to put their candidate ahead and then later claimi that it wasn’t deliberate fraud, just a terrible mistake.
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2021, 08:42:45 AM
Looks like a possibility of old fashioned incompetence, since Trump and Kayne West got duplicate votes. My understanding is Fulton county tends to vote Democratic (correct me if I’m wrong) so any duplication of any batch of ballots will favor Democrats. Of course if a person knows that trend or otherwise knows a batch favors one candidate then they could duplicate it to put their candidate ahead and then later claimi that it wasn’t deliberate fraud, just a terrible mistake.
Yep, that makes it hard to prove intentional fraud. But there are other cases of paper ballots that were duplicated before scanning,that seem to have been run off a printer that were all for Biden with no down votes, but that was in PA, not GA if I recall correctly which is possible I don’t.
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 22, 2021, 09:10:17 AM
Yep, that makes it hard to prove intentional fraud. But there are other cases of paper ballots that were duplicated before scanning,that seem to have been run off a printer that were all for Biden with no down votes, but that was in PA, not GA if I recall correctly which is possible I don’t.
I haven’t followed the situation in PA. Here’s the deal in GA: Four Georgia election workers observed mail-in ballots that appeared to have been printed and also batches without folds. All four workers signed affidavits to that effect and they are probably the main reason the Georgia VoterGA case is still ongoing (the other reason is that VoterGA did not sue to overturn the election, but on grounds of violation of equal protection.) The judge had ruled to allow a direct inspection of the ballots to check the claims of the election workers. Sovereign immunity issues came up that had to be dealt with. In the mean time the low-res images were released and an analysis clearly showed several problems that VoterGA hadn’t even claimed.
As I posted earlier, the main event in GA is direct examination of the ballots.
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2021, 09:23:28 AM
I haven’t followed the situation in PA. Here’s the deal in GA: Four Georgia election workers observed mail-in ballots that appeared to have been printed and also batches without folds. All four workers signed affidavits to that effect and they are probably the main reason the Georgia VoterGA case is still ongoing (the other reason is that VoterGA did not sue to overturn the election, but on grounds of violation of equal protection.) The judge had ruled to allow a direct inspection of the ballots to check the claims of the election workers. Sovereign immunity issues came up that had to be dealt with. In the mean time the low-res images were released and an analysis clearly showed several problems that VoterGA hadn’t even claimed.
As I posted earlier, the main event in GA is direct examination of the ballots.
You’re right I forgot about the GA ballots without folds.
Post by: Lucifer on July 22, 2021, 09:37:00 AM
You’re right I forgot about the GA ballots without folds.
The power of media.
They’ve kept this off the news cycle, and big tech keeps it censored. This is why the low information types keep thinking this is just a recount.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 22, 2021, 09:53:48 AM
Looks like a possibility of old fashioned incompetence, since Trump and Kayne West got duplicate votes. My understanding is Fulton county tends to vote Democratic (correct me if I’m wrong) so any duplication of any batch of ballots will favor Democrats. Of course if a person knows that trend or otherwise knows a batch favors one candidate then they could duplicate it to put their candidate ahead and then later claimi that it wasn’t deliberate fraud, just a terrible mistake.
If I was going to falsify ballots, I would make sure that there were at least some duplicate/invalid ballots for the other guy(s)...
Post by: Lucifer on July 22, 2021, 10:06:57 AM
If I was going to falsify ballots, I would make sure that there were at least some duplicate/invalid ballots for the other guy(s)...
The DCP operatives aren't that smart. Their scheme was slapped together in the belief that a) they believed their own bullshit, b) the lamestream media would cover for them, c) big tech would silence everyone, hence it would never be discovered.
They also led themselves to believe that the whole country hated Trump so bad that everyone would rejoice in their grand scheme. They even ran articles bragging about it. You, "saving democracy" and all that crap.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 22, 2021, 10:09:46 AM
The DCP operatives aren't that smart. Their scheme was slapped together in the belief that a) they believed their own bullshit, b) the lamestream media would cover for them, c) big tech would silence everyone, hence it would never be discovered.
They also led themselves to believe that the whole country hated Trump so bad that everyone would rejoice in their grand scheme. They even ran articles bragging about it. You, "saving democracy" and all that crap.
The DCP operatives might have learned a little from 2016.
It's usually not a good strategy to assume the enemy is stupid and will stay stupid.
Post by: Lucifer on July 22, 2021, 10:14:03 AM
The DCP operatives might have learned a little from 2016.
It's usually not a good strategy to assume the enemy is stupid and will stay stupid.
This has been the DNC/DCP philosophy for decades. They assume the other side is stupid. Again, they start believing their own garbage propaganda. This is one reason they are so surprised when shit blows up in their face.
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Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 30, 2021, 08:16:19 PM
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Elections Expert Seth Keshel Releases National Fraud Numbers: Finds 8.1 Million Excess Votes in US Election, Affirms Trump Won PA, MI, WI, NV, AZ, GA and MN
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Post by: Lucifer on August 04, 2021, 06:04:59 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 14, 2021, 11:40:56 PM
There is a fund raising concert today: https://voterga.org/events/ (https://voterga.org/events/)
Or just donate using their web donate page if so inclined.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 04:30:51 AM
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2021, 04:33:56 AM
Post by: Number7 on August 15, 2021, 05:36:37 AM
You know who you are.
Post by: Number7 on August 21, 2021, 06:27:48 AM
Why would the Attorney General order the DOJ to stop investigating the Pennsylvania magic million vote switch while everyone slept if it wasn't a coordinated coverup and steal?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/ag-barr-told-lt-col-tony-shaffer-stop-looking-truck-driver-jesse-morgans-testimony-moved-200000-fraudulent-ballots-ny-pa-2020-election/
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 23, 2021, 02:33:20 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 23, 2021, 03:45:31 PM
Post by: Little Joe on August 23, 2021, 04:39:59 PM
NOTHING HAPPENS.
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 24, 2021, 03:00:42 PM
“VoterGA Files Suit to Ban Illegal Dominion Voting System”
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Press-Release_VoterGA_Phillip_Singleton_Dominion_Ban-Aug-24-2021.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Press-Release_VoterGA_Phillip_Singleton_Dominion_Ban-Aug-24-2021.pdf)
As I understand it a Dominion voting machine prints a ballot that the voter can review to verify it shows their vote correctly, but the machines that read the printed ballots don’t look at the human-readable part but a generated machine-only-readable QR code also on the ballot. So the QR code could differ from the human-readable portion. Georgia state law disallows use of such voting systems. So the state was sued, but while the judge agreed the voting systems were in violation of the law, the judgment was just before the 2020 election, so the judge wrote (from https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/curling-v-raffensperger-rulling-101120.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/curling-v-raffensperger-rulling-101120.pdf):
“Thus, although Plaintiffs have put on a strong case indicating they may prevail on the merits at some future juncture, the Court must exercise real caution in considering the grant of their request for extraordinary injunctive relief, given its obligation to follow governing Supreme Court and Eleventh Circuit authority. Despite the profound issues raised by the Plaintiffs, the Court cannot jump off the legal edge and potentially trigger major disruption in the legally established state primary process governing the conduct of elections based on a preliminary evidentiary record. The capacity of county election systems and poll workers, much less the Secretary of State’s Office, to turn on a dime and switch to a full-scale hand- marked paper ballot system is contradicted by the entire messy electoral record of the past years. Implementation of such a sudden systemic change under these circumstances cannot but cause voter confusion and some real measure of electoral disruption. As with any systemic change, implementation of a statewide hand- marked paper ballot system as the State’s primary electoral system would require long term planning and advanced poll worker training. Accordingly, based on the binding appellate legal authority, the State’s strong legal interest in ensuring an orderly and manageable administration of the current election, and the Court’s assessment of the operational realities before it, the Court must deny the Plaintiffs’ Motions for Preliminary Injunctive Relief in so far as they request immediate replacement of the current BMD system with a statewide hand-marked paper ballot system.”
“Some future juncture” appears to have arrived and the new case is presented before a different judge and the timing is much better in terms of undercutting any excuse that the state doesn’t have time to implement an alternate system. The previous opinion and order would seem to provide additional ammunition to VoterGA.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 24, 2021, 03:04:52 PM
Post by: Rush on August 24, 2021, 04:47:00 PM
Post by: Lucifer on August 25, 2021, 05:59:17 AM
Post by: jb1842 on August 25, 2021, 06:22:57 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-recall-ballots-drugs-gun-felon-car-police
Post by: Lucifer on August 25, 2021, 06:24:10 AM
I would like the left to try to explain this...
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-recall-ballots-drugs-gun-felon-car-police
Hell, I'm still waiting for an explanation of the mountains of evidence of the 2020 steal.
Post by: Rush on August 25, 2021, 06:49:13 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ID2jxe6.png)
The FBI is totally corrupt:
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 25, 2021, 04:25:45 PM
Post by: Lucifer on August 27, 2021, 02:19:22 PM
https://news.gab.com/2021/08/27/gab-receives-a-letter-from-congress/
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 18, 2021, 09:36:39 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 19, 2021, 05:24:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/604110258278006784/g19MPLet_bigger.jpg)HEARING: Monday, Sept. 20, 2021 at 9amET #GarlandFavorito (https://twitter.com/hashtag/GarlandFavorito?src=hashtag_click), et al. v. #FultonCounty (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FultonCounty?src=hashtag_click), et al. Civil Case No. 2020CV343938
BRIEFS: https://VoterGA.org/legal-action
DOCKET: https://publicrecordsaccess.fultoncountyga.gov/app/RegisterOfActions/#/3A0324B9A67B2C27A41DE1BA29DF76D44176561C00BF2C0F08DD3F4487384289DE3652830E4C29C45656F5AF8030CA96/
PLAYLIST: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs-Naq5hayWv7W0lAeaexcNlWKDYmqhWx https://VoterGA.org/DONATE
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 20, 2021, 06:48:40 AM
https://t.co/GQwJt6RI1H?amp=1
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 20, 2021, 07:38:34 AM
Post by: Lucifer on September 20, 2021, 07:40:49 AM
end result.....can has been kicked down the road 20 days.
Yep, wash, rinse, repeat.
The DC's have perfected the art of lawfare. The conservatives will not even attempt to use the same tactics or improve on them.
Post by: Rush on September 20, 2021, 08:18:16 AM
end result.....can has been kicked down the road 20 days.
Delay delay delay until after the midterms. Then, delay until 2025.
Post by: Little Joe on September 20, 2021, 08:24:37 AM
end result.....can has been kicked down the road 20 days.Exactly as expected. I stopped getting my hopes up about these hearings a long time ago.
The 2022 and 2024 elections will come and go before anything happens about 2020. We should be putting more time into preparing for that than fighting the last one.
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 20, 2021, 02:08:57 PM
Exactly as expected. I stopped getting my hopes up about these hearings a long time ago.
The 2022 and 2024 elections will come and go before anything happens about 2020. We should be putting more time into preparing for that than fighting the last one.
Um, the lawsuit isn’t about changing the results of the 2020 election but to insure the same thing doesn’t happen in those future elections.
Post by: Rush on September 20, 2021, 02:11:17 PM
Post by: Little Joe on September 20, 2021, 02:53:21 PM
Um, the lawsuit isn’t about changing the results of the 2020 election but to insure the same thing doesn’t happen in those future elections.That's good and I thank you for pointing it out. As I said, I gave up following those guys a long time ago after expecting something spectacular and receiving nothing.
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 20, 2021, 04:13:33 PM
end result.....can has been kicked down the road 20 days.
I just found a recording of the court hearing. Bulk of it is arguing over a new motion to dismiss. The last 20 minutes or so a state investigation is claimed to be ongoing by a representative of the SoS and an implication is made the lawsuit could interfere with it. Also, the sheriff is complaining that it is costly to protect the ballots, so the judge says the petitioners must foot the bill for that protection for the next twenty days. The twenty days is meant to give the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) a chance to supply the court with the status of their investigation. The judge didn’t rule on anything and isn’t likely to till then.
Garland was being optimistic, to say the least. The SoS and the county are fighting the ballot examination using any and all means they can create.
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 20, 2021, 06:50:49 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 22, 2021, 06:14:17 AM
https://rumble.com/vmrcdk-ga-judge-initially-sides-with-state-election-contesters.html
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 22, 2021, 06:18:15 AM
https://rumble.com/vmsjly-the-real-story-oan-georgia-2020-with-garland-favorito.html
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 22, 2021, 11:40:46 AM
Seems the county attorney told a couple of whoppers
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 24, 2021, 05:08:46 AM
https://wendyrogers.org/attorney-matt-deperno-responds-to-az-senate-lawyer-who-claimed-senate-could-not-decertify/
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2021, 05:21:51 AM
57,000 questionable votes. In an election that was decided by 11,000 votes.
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 26, 2021, 12:33:22 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 26, 2021, 03:23:46 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 01, 2021, 05:59:30 AM
Post by: nddons on October 02, 2021, 07:48:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9Au72K2.jpg)That’s awesome.
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 02, 2021, 10:46:08 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 03, 2021, 04:39:56 AM
Post by: Lucifer on October 04, 2021, 05:47:52 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 13, 2021, 11:08:14 AM
According to a news story on the Wall Street Journal the judge in the Fulton county ballot audit case has dismissed the case because the plaintiffs lack standing. This was after the state said they had investigated said ballots and did not find any evidence of fraudulent ballots. VoterGA is planning to appeal.
Sigh.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 13, 2021, 11:52:04 AM
Post by: Rush on October 13, 2021, 12:15:19 PM
Well,
According to a news story on the Wall Street Journal the judge in the Fulton county ballot audit case has dismissed the case because the plaintiffs lack standing. This was after the state said they had investigated said ballots and did not find any evidence of fraudulent ballots. VoterGA is planning to appeal.
Sigh.
Somebody’s kids must have been threatened.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 13, 2021, 12:19:15 PM
Somebody’s kids must have been threatened.
A la Harrison Deal.
GA must be the deepest of the corrupt pits.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 13, 2021, 02:31:23 PM
Yes, Harrison Deal does come to mind.
Post by: Little Joe on October 13, 2021, 02:40:48 PM
This is just hard to understand, you get this many months down the road and suddenly announce the plaintiffs have no standing.The only part that I don't understand is what took them so long. Perhaps they thought the case would lose on merit, but since that wasn't happening, they had to shut it down.
Yes, Harrison Deal does come to mind.
Post by: Lucifer on October 13, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 17, 2021, 09:40:27 AM
https://moonstone71.substack.com/p/georgia-judge-brian-amero-dismisses (https://moonstone71.substack.com/p/georgia-judge-brian-amero-dismisses)
Basically:
(1) Georgia code presumes a plaintiff has standing in the case of enforcement of a public duty.
(2) Standing must, as a general rule, be determined when the plaintiff’s case is filed, not months into the litigation.
Garland is part of a discussion group on the case dismissal in this video:
https://odysee.com/@NickMoseder:0/Voter-Georgia-Case-DISMISSED-Garland-Favorito-And-David:f (https://odysee.com/@NickMoseder:0/Voter-Georgia-Case-DISMISSED-Garland-Favorito-And-David:f)
Post by: Number7 on October 17, 2021, 11:37:26 AM
This article mentions two ways in which Garland Favorito and VoterGA can argue on appeal:
https://moonstone71.substack.com/p/georgia-judge-brian-amero-dismisses (https://moonstone71.substack.com/p/georgia-judge-brian-amero-dismisses)
Basically:
(1) Georgia code presumes a plaintiff has standing in the case of enforcement of a public duty.
(2) Standing must, as a general rule, be determined when the plaintiff’s case is filed, not months into the litigation.
Garland is part of a discussion group on the case dismissal in this video:
https://odysee.com/@NickMoseder:0/Voter-Georgia-Case-DISMISSED-Garland-Favorito-And-David:f (https://odysee.com/@NickMoseder:0/Voter-Georgia-Case-DISMISSED-Garland-Favorito-And-David:f)
Let's try and be honest...
This is another case of judges imposing political solutions at the expense of the law.
It is soon time for tar, feathers and strong ropes.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 27, 2021, 05:28:45 AM
Post by: Rush on October 27, 2021, 05:55:10 AM
Hmmmmm.
Seriously? So Jill fears Kamala, and knows Joe is going downhill fast and will either stroke out or need to be 25thed and Jill apparently thinks Kamala is even worse than Joe as the "leader" of the free world. Or is something else going on?
Post by: Anthony on October 27, 2021, 05:59:26 AM
Seriously? So Jill fears Kamala, and knows Joe is going downhill fast and will either stroke out or need to be 25thed and Jill apparently thinks Kamala is even worse than Joe as the "leader" of the free world. Or is something else going on?
Jill Biden is the biggest phony since Joe Biden, Obama, Hillary, and the rest. An elitist, power hungry, arrogant KNOW NOTHING. She is so meaningless that it hurts to even think about her.
Post by: Lucifer on October 27, 2021, 06:05:40 AM
Post by: Rush on October 27, 2021, 06:59:18 AM
Maybe "Dr" Jill feels she would make the ideal VP.........................
Yeah I was kind of going there. Or thinking she was thinking about going there.
No, I just figured it out. Joe’s been flirting with Kamala or smelling her hair and Jill is jealous and wants to get rid of her. Betcha a million dollars that’s what’s going on. It is true Joe is pedo creepy but it’s common knowledge he’ll target females of any age.
Post by: Lucifer on October 27, 2021, 07:08:43 AM
Yeah I was kind of going there. Or thinking she was thinking about going there.
No, I just figured it out. Joe’s been flirting with Kamala or smelling her hair and Jill is jealous and wants to get rid of her. Betcha a million dollars that’s what’s going on. It is true Joe is pedo creepy but it’s common knowledge he’ll target females of any age.
Jill is power hungry. She pushed her senile husband into running so she could get into the WH. And now she is enabling his handlers so she can remain in the spotlight. And no doubt she is realizing wealth beyond her wildest expectations.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3dM78NXEAI_LH3?format=jpg&name=small)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 27, 2021, 10:42:45 AM
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 27, 2021, 07:38:44 PM
Post by: Mr Pou on October 28, 2021, 05:13:27 AM
Jill is power hungry. She pushed her senile husband into running so she could get into the WH. And now she is enabling his handlers so she can remain in the spotlight. And no doubt she is realizing wealth beyond her wildest expectations.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3dM78NXEAI_LH3?format=jpg&name=small)
House of Cards anyone?
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 09, 2021, 08:02:24 PM
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Press-Release-VoterGA-2020-Election-Ballot-Images-Destroyed-11-09-21.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Press-Release-VoterGA-2020-Election-Ballot-Images-Destroyed-11-09-21.pdf)
It reads, in part:
VoterGA today announced that their ballot image analysis team determined 74 Georgia counties have been unable to produce all the original ballot images from the November 2020 election. The team obtained admissions from 56 counties that most or all of the images created automatically by the Dominion voting system for results tabulation have been destroyed. VoterGA volunteers made the determinations by submitting Open Records Requests (ORR) for the images to each county.
Ballot images are a critical aspect of election records that have long been required to be retained by federal and state law. Federal law requires a 22-month retention period for election records while state law requires a 24-month retention period for election documents which are generally considered to include those that are electronic. [USC 52 20701, O.C.G.A. 21-2-73]
….
(FYI: there are 159 counties in Georgia.)
Meanwhile they expect to file an appeal on the dismissal of their Fulton County case within the next couple days. Garland talked about their press release and Fulton county appeal status in this video:
Post by: Rush on November 10, 2021, 04:59:37 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 16, 2021, 12:41:54 PM
Quote
FULTON COUNTY, GA—Ever since the 2020 general election, there have been countless details, facts and records uncovered which suggest that whatever happened on November 3rd was not acceptable. As the “non-existent” evidence of nefarious election manipulation mounts in swing states, the surprises coming from Georgia are unbelievable, and the scope of election “mismanagement” is shocking. Each situation is far worse than what we would have ever thought possible.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 27, 2021, 11:49:36 PM
(1) Their appeal of the dismissal is in progress. Being scheduled into the court docket. A hearing on their appeal is sometime in a few weeks, but I don't recall hearing any specific date from Garland.
(2) Big new news is that Georgia Governor Kemp has asked the GA State Election Board to look into problems with the Fulton County audit. Thanks to the hard work of a couple private citizens (Joseph Rossi in particular) that examined the ballot images VoterGA managed to get released and cataloged the errors. He sent the info to the governor whose office took weeks to verify his claims. This resulted in these two documents being sent to the board:
(2.1) https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2021-11/SEB%20Letter%2011.17.21.01.pdf (https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2021-11/SEB%20Letter%2011.17.21.01.pdf)
(2.2) https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2021-11/Review%20of%20Inconsistencies%20in%20the%20Data%20Supporting%20the%20Risk%20Limiting%20Audit%20Report.pdf (https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2021-11/Review%20of%20Inconsistencies%20in%20the%20Data%20Supporting%20the%20Risk%20Limiting%20Audit%20Report.pdf)
These are some of the news stories covering this in detail:
(2.3) https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/george-governor-orders-probe-sloppy-november-2020-vote-counts-fulton (https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/george-governor-orders-probe-sloppy-november-2020-vote-counts-fulton)
(2.4) https://thefederalist.com/2021/11/24/georgia-governor-releases-more-evidence-that-2020-ballots-were-miscounted/ (https://thefederalist.com/2021/11/24/georgia-governor-releases-more-evidence-that-2020-ballots-were-miscounted/)
Saw some speculation that Kemp is now reluctantly giving this issue credence because he's not only getting public heat from voters at speaking events, but a real threat exists from David Perdue who might beat him in the primary - and the person who could aid Perdue is Trump. This according to one poll:
https://gazette.com/news/trump-endorsement-pushes-david-perdue-past-brian-kemp-in-georgia-primary-poll/article_515bba2f-923c-5ebf-95e3-6d95bb459098.html (https://gazette.com/news/trump-endorsement-pushes-david-perdue-past-brian-kemp-in-georgia-primary-poll/article_515bba2f-923c-5ebf-95e3-6d95bb459098.html)
(3) Georgia Cobb county GOP is demanding a state-wide audit:
https://www.thepostemail.com/2021/11/26/will-voter-fraud-ever-be-investigated-in-georgia/ (https://www.thepostemail.com/2021/11/26/will-voter-fraud-ever-be-investigated-in-georgia/)
(4) The video update itself:
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 28, 2021, 04:44:06 AM
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2021, 07:02:29 AM
Here is what pisses me off the most. The cheating is in big cities with a large minority vote. In 2020 even considering cheating, Trump got 50% more of the black vote than he got in 2016. But how much did he really get? If a lot of the Trump votes were flipped to Biden in the Dominion machines or otherwise black Trump votes were “lost” the cheating is disenfranchising blacks, yet the Democrats use race to justify the fortification. “Voter ID disenfranchises blacks” when in reality it’s the exact opposite. No voter ID enables them to pad the black vote for whomever they want, rather than who the black voters are really voting for.
As long as the black vote remains majority Democrat you might say it doesn’t matter if 5% of their Republican votes got flipped or lost, the blacks on the whole want the Democrat. But we don’t know what the future holds, blacks flipped en masse from Republican to Democrat in the past, they could flip back at any time, and suppose some Republican nazi cabal gets in power and they become the cheaters and now you’re tweaking the black vote toward the Republican. Secondly, we can’t accurately assess voting trends with cheating, and third, even if only 16% of blacks vote Republican and only 1% of them had their votes flipped, you are disenfranchising that 1%.
Post by: Lucifer on November 28, 2021, 07:08:43 AM
This is why the investigations are extremely slow going even with rooms full of evidence. The political elites of both sides have found a system to guarantee they remain in power. Relinquishing this won't be easy.
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2021, 07:20:52 AM
We have to keep in mind the cheating didn't just benefit the democrat communist, the establishment republicans also benefited.
This is why the investigations are extremely slow going even with rooms full of evidence. The political elites of both sides have found a system to guarantee they remain in power. Relinquishing this won't be easy.
This why they hate Trump. He is not a “Republican”.
Post by: Lucifer on November 28, 2021, 07:31:19 AM
This why they hate Trump. He is not a “Republican”.
Precisely.
They do not want anymore outsiders in the club. The current system will allow them to keep the undesirables out. The VA governor race was an outlier in that the Republican overwhelmed the system to a point that the DC's couldn't overcome it. They won't let that happen again.
NJ almost fell to republican control, but the system kicked in, with a few exceptions in areas where they felt they had the election locked and didn't need extra resources. They won't make that mistake again.
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2021, 08:21:18 AM
Precisely.
They do not want anymore outsiders in the club. The current system will allow them to keep the undesirables out. The VA governor race was an outlier in that the Republican overwhelmed the system to a point that the DC's couldn't overcome it. They won't let that happen again.
NJ almost fell to republican control, but the system kicked in, with a few exceptions in areas where they felt they had the election locked and didn't need extra resources. They won't make that mistake again.
2016 shocked them and woke them up. Covid came along giving them the perfect mechanisms, and they got to work organizing it as they bragged in the Time.org article. Now they are trying to codify their cheat methodology into national law. We CANNOT allow that to happen.
Post by: Lucifer on November 28, 2021, 08:42:10 AM
2016 shocked them and woke them up. Covid came along giving them the perfect mechanisms, and they got to work organizing it as they bragged in the Time.org article. Now they are trying to codify their cheat methodology into national law. We CANNOT allow that to happen.
Here’s the problem.
We’ve seen little if no election reform in the areas of the biggest steal. Now less than a year away, the same systems are in place to help the DC’s hold and gain power. The Washington Establishment are perfectly OK with this.
The free states have strengthened election laws with should decrease the DC cheaters there, but the shithole states can hold and gain. This is why I cringe every time the republicans toss out a poll showing they will have massive victories in 2022.
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2021, 09:39:58 AM
Here’s the problem.
We’ve seen little if no election reform in the areas of the biggest steal. Now less than a year away, the same systems are in place to help the DC’s hold and gain power. The Washington Establishment are perfectly OK with this.
The free states have strengthened election laws with should decrease the DC cheaters there, but the shithole states can hold and gain. This is why I cringe every time the republicans toss out a poll showing they will have massive victories in 2022.
I’m trying to stay optimistic but I cringe too. NJ was definitely a Republican win as was Trump in 2020 and now I don’t take anything for granted.
The Biden 2020 steal was a shock but in retrospect it had been strongly signaled. The Dems made zero effort to campaign, they ran on no platform whatsoever, unless you call “at least he’s not Trump” a platform, they put up the most repulsive candidates of all time, beating even Hillary in repulsivity, they absolutely bombed at their pathetic attempts to campaign, attracting no crowds at all except pro-Trump hecklers, they insulted blacks, saying they’re not even black unless they vote for Biden, they insulted whites constantly calling them racists, they took Hispanics for granted, and insulted them by assuming they all want Democrat welfare when Hispanics are arguably the hardest workers in the U.S., they were arrogant and dismissive when confronted with the common man’s problems, and to top it all off they supported destroying livelihoods with lockdowns.
All during 2020 they signaled this huge FU to the American people of all races, especially the working middle class and small business owners. The VP candidate included non-violent criminal offenders in her FU to the People with her history of “keep them locked up” policies even while Trump was enacting criminal justice reform and working to reduce minority imprisonment.
This display of arrogance, spitting in all our faces, was a clear sign they knew they had the election in the bag. Even so, they were taken by surprise as the Trump tsunami was even greater than they anticipated because they totally misread the American people and how fed up we are with the DC elite, and they had to quick print up many more forged ballots at 3:00 am after banning the non-partisan watchers from the room.
The urban densely populated Democrat controlled counties where this cheating took place have long histories of election fraud and general corruption. You are correct that just a few of these precincts can fuck the whole national election and their antics have been tolerated far too long, for the Democrat corrupt ruling elite, it is their natural right to stay in power and anything is justified to do so including manipulating the votes of their urban minority citizens.
Post by: Number7 on November 28, 2021, 03:46:20 PM
In a move guaranteed to infuriate liberals, low information voters and generally blind sheep, the truth about the fraud or n the 2020 election has begun to cause people of integrity in the Arizona legislature to start using the word, DECERTIFICATION when discussing how to fix the brutally illegal ballot box stuffing.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/watch-az-state-senator-wendy-rogers-186-legislators-39-states-call-50-state-audit-arizona-looks-decertify/
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 30, 2021, 07:03:48 AM
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja6J1wY2UNw)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 30, 2021, 09:36:21 AM
Post by: nddons on November 30, 2021, 09:55:32 AM
Watching a movie done by Nick Searcey called Capitol Punishment. Available to stream from Western Journal Movies.Loved Searcey in “Justified.” Big time conservative and friend of Rush Limbaugh.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 30, 2021, 10:18:04 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 08, 2021, 05:52:38 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1468699598063554567
https://twitter.com/i/status/1468698792560050176
Post by: Lucifer on December 15, 2021, 06:58:54 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 22, 2021, 04:37:36 AM
Post by: Lucifer on December 22, 2021, 05:36:26 AM
Post by: Lucifer on December 23, 2021, 10:03:10 AM
From the Constitution:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHGRNmmX0AwZoow?format=jpg&name=medium)
So, our DC friends are preparing lawfare, and any republican candidate that they disapprove (most of them) they are going to link to the "Insurrection" and then use lawfare to disqualify them from running.
Sound crazy? You be the judge. https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1473118873302056961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1473118873302056961%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2021%2F12%2Ffascist-usa-top-democrat-marc-elias-proposes-chinese-style-censorship-allow-approved-republicans-run-future-office%2F
BTW, for those not keeping up, Marc Elias is a Clintonista and was behind the 2020 Election steals.
Post by: Number7 on December 23, 2021, 10:20:42 AM
Post by: nddons on December 23, 2021, 10:34:47 AM
Just in case, if you are wondering why the DC's are so infatuated with the Jan 6 "Insurrection", let's shed some light on what's coming.It all hinges on the LEGAL definition of insurrection. They can’t change the language. Of course a quick google search showed CNN has provided the definitions for insurrection, revolt, etc., so I guess there’s no need to dig any deeper.
From the Constitution:
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So, our DC friends are preparing lawfare, and any republican candidate that they disapprove (most of them) they are going to link to the "Insurrection" and then use lawfare to disqualify them from running.
Sound crazy? You be the judge. https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1473118873302056961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1473118873302056961%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2021%2F12%2Ffascist-usa-top-democrat-marc-elias-proposes-chinese-style-censorship-allow-approved-republicans-run-future-office%2F
BTW, for those not keeping up, Marc Elias is a Clintonista and was behind the 2020 Election steals.
Post by: Lucifer on December 23, 2021, 11:40:52 AM
It all hinges on the LEGAL definition of insurrection. They can’t change the language. Of course a quick google search showed CNN has provided the definitions for insurrection, revolt, etc., so I guess there’s no need to dig any deeper.
They will use lawfare, which cost defendants thousands upon thousands (if not millions) to defend themselves, tie them up in court proceedings, discovery, etc. Then they will use these to get sound bites to play over and over to smear.
The insurrection, which of course was not an insurrection, is their ticket forward, hence why they are laser focused on it.
Kevin McCarthy and The Turtle should have shut this bullshit down. GOP members of congress should push back en mass.
Post by: nddons on December 23, 2021, 11:50:04 AM
They will use lawfare, which cost defendants thousands upon thousands (if not millions) to defend themselves, tie them up in court proceedings, discovery, etc. Then they will use these to get sound bites to play over and over to smear.One definition of insurrection includes the word “violent.” The only one murdered had violence committed against her by the Stasi.
The insurrection, which of course was not an insurrection, is their ticket forward, hence why they are laser focused on it.
Kevin McCarthy and The Turtle should have shut this bullshit down. GOP members of congress should push back en mass.
Post by: Lucifer on December 23, 2021, 03:47:13 PM
One definition of insurrection includes the word “violent.” The only one murdered had violence committed against her by the Stasi.
We all know the leftist will just redefine words to get the meaning they want. There's a reason they are hanging on to the fake insurrection narrative.
Post by: nddons on December 23, 2021, 05:28:34 PM
We all know the leftist will just redefine words to get the meaning they want. There's a reason they are hanging on to the fake insurrection narrative.Honest to God. I’ve seen clips from CNN and MSNBC and you would think that 6 Jan was the equivalent of the British burning Washington in 1814.
Post by: Lucifer on December 23, 2021, 05:44:02 PM
Honest to God. I’ve seen clips from CNN and MSNBC and you would think that 6 Jan was the equivalent of the British burning Washington in 1814.
That's the narrative. "Worse than 9/11", "Worse than Pearl Harbor". If they can keep steering this narrative then it won't be difficult to claim it was an actual insurrection, and the damage to follow.
Why do you think they won't release the J6 prisoners?
Post by: Rush on December 23, 2021, 07:38:10 PM
Honest to God. I’ve seen clips from CNN and MSNBC and you would think that 6 Jan was the equivalent of the British burning Washington in 1814.
I was there Jan 6 the whole time, in virtual reality. People streamed from their cells, I was outside, inside, in the middle of it. The most violent thing that happened was the shooting of Ashli Babbitt. That’s it. Oh and a few windows got busted.
Post by: Anthony on December 24, 2021, 03:53:44 AM
Honest to God. I’ve seen clips from CNN and MSNBC and you would think that 6 Jan was the equivalent of the British burning Washington in 1814.
Pure Propaganda in order to control people's opinion and create a more OPPRESSIVE society. Period.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 24, 2021, 04:03:51 AM
Post by: Rush on December 24, 2021, 04:48:13 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/exclusive-smoking-gun-lawsuit-reveals-fulton-county-2020-absentee-ballot-results-physically-impossible-files-modified/
That email about the proprietary equipment and software, what the hell are we doing using proprietary equipment and software that can’t be examined, for vote counting in the first place? The whole thing needs to be transparent.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 24, 2021, 06:03:44 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 24, 2021, 06:06:17 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 04, 2022, 07:58:09 PM
Post by: Number7 on January 04, 2022, 08:47:13 PM
That's ok, flynn will be along to claim it never happened.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2022, 07:12:18 PM
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"We're in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for President Obama's administration before this, we have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." Joe Biden, October, 2020
Post by: Lucifer on January 09, 2022, 08:07:47 AM
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I’m not an economist, but I’ve been doing this a long time. But here’s the way to look at it. If car prices are too high right now, there are two solutions: You increase the supply of cars by making more of them, or you reduce demand for cars by making Americans poorer. That’s the choice.
Believe it or not, there’s a lot of people in the second camp. You’ll hear them complain that wages are rising too fast among the very middle-class and working-class people who have endured decades of stalled incomes.
-Joe Biden
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From day one, my economic agenda has been different. It has been about taking a fundamentally new approach to our economy — one that sees the prosperity of working families as the solution, not the problem.
There’s never been a time I can think of when the middle class and working class have done well that the wealthy haven’t done very well.
-Joe Biden
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/01/07/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-december-2021-jobs-report/
Post by: Anthony on January 09, 2022, 09:44:54 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 15, 2022, 06:05:00 AM
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Recently we reported on the official Fulton County ballot image files (https://uncoverdc.com/2021/11/12/fulton-county-and-sos-plan-to-destroy-unused-ballots/) from the 2020 general election having been modified without explanation. The file timestamps for those modifications were not associated with expected processes or procedures.
Post by: Lucifer on January 25, 2022, 06:50:00 AM
Post by: Lucifer on January 25, 2022, 06:52:11 AM
Post by: Rush on January 25, 2022, 06:54:32 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wldGuQ6.jpg)
They aren’t even bothering to hide their hypocrisy.
Post by: Rush on January 25, 2022, 06:32:43 PM
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats have issued a dire warning to the American people that Republicans will steal the election in 2022 by blocking all Democrat efforts to steal the election.
"Republicans want to destroy our democracy by stealing the election, just like Hitler," said Nancy Pelosi in a speech supporting the Voting Rights Act. "If Republicans are not stopped, they will block all our noble efforts to steal the election for ourselves, because Republicans are racist and want to bring back Jim Crow. We cannot allow that!"
The crowd of enthusiastic school kids in the audience who had been bussed in for the speech cheered in agreement.
Democrat strategists agree that their best hope in the midterms is to cheat as much as possible. They warn that if their cheating is stopped by Republicans, Republican candidates may win, which is the same thing as literal fascism.
"When Democrats cheat, that's just Democracy as Martin Luther King intended," said Pelosi. "When Republicans stop Democrats from cheating, that's an unfair attack on Democracy itself. We will not rest until the will of felons, illegal immigrants, and dead people are heard and every vote is counted!"
Republicans started to say something in objection but stopped short after being told that was cheating.
Post by: nddons on January 25, 2022, 06:35:55 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-warn-that-republicans-may-steal-the-election-by-blocking-democrat-efforts-to-steal-the-electionSo sad that the Bee is more believable than the MSM.
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats have issued a dire warning to the American people that Republicans will steal the election in 2022 by blocking all Democrat efforts to steal the election.
"Republicans want to destroy our democracy by stealing the election, just like Hitler," said Nancy Pelosi in a speech supporting the Voting Rights Act. "If Republicans are not stopped, they will block all our noble efforts to steal the election for ourselves, because Republicans are racist and want to bring back Jim Crow. We cannot allow that!"
The crowd of enthusiastic school kids in the audience who had been bussed in for the speech cheered in agreement.
Democrat strategists agree that their best hope in the midterms is to cheat as much as possible. They warn that if their cheating is stopped by Republicans, Republican candidates may win, which is the same thing as literal fascism.
"When Democrats cheat, that's just Democracy as Martin Luther King intended," said Pelosi. "When Republicans stop Democrats from cheating, that's an unfair attack on Democracy itself. We will not rest until the will of felons, illegal immigrants, and dead people are heard and every vote is counted!"
Republicans started to say something in objection but stopped short after being told that was cheating.
Post by: Rush on January 25, 2022, 06:43:51 PM
So sad that the Bee is more believable than the MSM.
That is literally how the Democrats think. They know they cheat, they feel entitled to cheat, and they resent you if you try to stop them from cheating. That’s what the whole voting rights act is about. It has nothing to do with voting rights and everything to do with preventing states from preventing cheating.
Post by: Anthony on January 26, 2022, 04:01:53 AM
That is literally how the Democrats think. They know they cheat, they feel entitled to cheat, and they resent you if you try to stop them from cheating. That’s what the whole voting rights act is about. It has nothing to do with voting rights and everything to do with preventing states from preventing cheating.
They have eroded the underpinnings of a once great nation and system. Now they want it codified to continue to be corrupt.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 26, 2022, 05:24:26 AM
Post by: Rush on January 26, 2022, 05:38:04 AM
Name one Presidential election that they lost since Bush v Gore that they haven't complained about being cheated.
Yep, projection again. Because cheating is so ingrained in them, they assume everyone else is doing it too. I grant that Republicans have at times attempted to bolster their chances, usually with gerrymandering and Jim Crow discrimination…..
No wait, that was Democrats.
Post by: nddons on January 26, 2022, 06:16:15 AM
Yep, projection again. Because cheating is so ingrained in them, they assume everyone else is doing it too. I grant that Republicans have at times attempted to bolster their chances, usually with gerrymandering and Jim Crow discrimination…..Don’t get me started in gerrymandering. Democrats are up in arms that the Wisconsin legislature gets to draw the lines two decades in a row. Lots of signs saying “End Gerrymandering!” No, those people don’t want to end it, they want to be the ones doing it.
No wait, that was Democrats.
Here’s a map of congressional districts in and around the Chicago area. Gerrymander much?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220126/2b3bd8e66b52ab5a4b745ad937227b8b.jpg)
Post by: Lucifer on January 26, 2022, 06:19:34 AM
Post by: elwood blues on January 26, 2022, 11:13:11 AM
Don’t get me started in gerrymandering. Democrats are up in arms that the Wisconsin legislature gets to draw the lines two decades in a row. Lots of signs saying “End Gerrymandering!” No, those people don’t want to end it, they want to be the ones doing it.
Here’s a map of congressional districts in and around the Chicago area. Gerrymander much?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220126/2b3bd8e66b52ab5a4b745ad937227b8b.jpg)
If I were king for a day, I would demand that congressional districts follow existing geopolitical boundaries, as in Cook County is one district.
Post by: nddons on January 26, 2022, 12:10:34 PM
If I were king for a day, I would demand that congressional districts follow existing geopolitical boundaries, as in Cook County is one district.Love the idea, but you would still have to combine some counties as there are 3,143 counties in the US.
Post by: texasag93 on January 26, 2022, 12:16:53 PM
Then fill it with water.
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 26, 2022, 12:23:20 PM
If I were king for a day, I would demand that congressional districts follow existing geopolitical boundaries, as in Cook County is one district.
I saw a commenter to a WSJ article on the subject suggest something even simpler: rectangular grids bounded by the lines of latitude and longitude that create equal areas. Would need to be adjustments for the non-rectangular areas at state boundaries.
Post by: jb1842 on January 26, 2022, 12:29:18 PM
I say build a wall around Cook County to keep all the guns out.
Then fill it with water.
Give them more guns, lots of ammo, tell them last man standing after a week gets 10 billion dollars tax free and a pardon. Allow anyone from the country in before it's closed off. Then fill it with water.
Post by: Little Joe on January 26, 2022, 12:40:11 PM
I saw a commenter to a WSJ article on the subject suggest something even simpler: rectangular grids bounded by the lines of latitude and longitude that create equal areas. Would need to be adjustments for the non-rectangular areas at state boundaries.Doesn't each grid need to have a similar number of people? Sparsely populated areas need to be larger, geographically than densely populated areas.
I'm not sure about that though. I was sick that day during civics class.
Post by: Little Joe on January 26, 2022, 12:41:12 PM
Give them more guns, lots of ammo, tell them last man standing after a week gets 10 billion dollars tax free and a pardon. Allow anyone from the country in before it's closed off. Then fill it with water.You don't have to fill it up. Just plug up the drains. When the kids turn on the fire hydrants it will fill up.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 26, 2022, 12:49:45 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 26, 2022, 01:32:43 PM
Doesn't each grid need to have a similar number of people? Sparsely populated areas need to be larger, geographically than densely populated areas.
I'm not sure about that though. I was sick that day during civics class.
It's likely I misremembered his concept. Might have been more to it.
Post by: elwood blues on January 26, 2022, 04:06:05 PM
Love the idea, but you would still have to combine some counties as there are 3,143 counties in the US.
Oh, for sure -- counties would be combined to form a district if they lacked the population to form their own (and in the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, Alaska all the counties would be combined), but could not be divided into bizarre looking districts. For that matter, I have no problem with 3,143 districts.
Post by: nddons on January 26, 2022, 04:37:13 PM
Oh, for sure -- counties would be combined to form a district if they lacked the population to form their own (and in the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, Alaska all the counties would be combined), but could not be divided into bizarre looking districts. For that matter, I have no problem with 3,143 districts.3,143 - 535 = another 2,608 FedGov politicians? God help us.
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 26, 2022, 04:41:23 PM
[...]
But if representative government turns out to be your intention there still may be ways to achieve it better than the territorial district. For example you each represent about ten thousand human beings, perhaps seven thousand of voting age—and some of you were elected by slim majorities. Suppose instead of election a man were qualified for office by petition signed by four thousand citizens. He would then represent those four thousand affirmatively, with no disgruntled minority, for what would have been a minority in a territorial constituency would all be free to start other petitions or join in them. All would then be represented by men of their choice. Or a man with eight thousand supporters might have two votes in this body. Difficulties, objections, practical points to be worked out—many of them! But you could work them out . . . and thereby avoid the chronic sickness of representative government, the disgruntled minority which feels—correctly!—that it has been disenfranchised." -- "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" -- Robert Heinlein
I always thought Heinlein's petition idea worthy of trying - that way you are guaranteed to be represented by the person you select. Not end up being unrepresented at all. But ideally government should get rid of the middle-men of representatives and go to direct vote by the electorate on proposed bills. That is technologically possible now, whereas in the past it was not. Passage would need to be set higher - say 2/3rds or greater voted in favor and a quorum requirement that more than half the eligible voters voted. Or perhaps a requirement of half of all eligible voters voted for a bill (the first idea would allow a bill to pass with only 1/3rd of eligible voters voting aye.)
Post by: Rush on January 26, 2022, 05:59:40 PM
"Surely where a man lives is the least important thing about him. Constituencies might be formed by dividing people by occupation . . . or by age . . . or even alphabetically.
[...]
But if representative government turns out to be your intention there still may be ways to achieve it better than the territorial district. For example you each represent about ten thousand human beings, perhaps seven thousand of voting age—and some of you were elected by slim majorities. Suppose instead of election a man were qualified for office by petition signed by four thousand citizens. He would then represent those four thousand affirmatively, with no disgruntled minority, for what would have been a minority in a territorial constituency would all be free to start other petitions or join in them. All would then be represented by men of their choice. Or a man with eight thousand supporters might have two votes in this body. Difficulties, objections, practical points to be worked out—many of them! But you could work them out . . . and thereby avoid the chronic sickness of representative government, the disgruntled minority which feels—correctly!—that it has been disenfranchised." -- "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" -- Robert Heinlein
I always thought Heinlein's petition idea worthy of trying - that way you are guaranteed to be represented by the person you select. Not end up being unrepresented at all. But ideally government should get rid of the middle-men of representatives and go to direct vote by the electorate on proposed bills. That is technologically possible now, whereas in the past it was not. Passage would need to be set higher - say 2/3rds or greater voted in favor and a quorum requirement that more than half the eligible voters voted. Or perhaps a requirement of half of all eligible voters voted for a bill (the first idea would allow a bill to pass with only 1/3rd of eligible voters voting aye.)
TMIAHM was another major influence on me when I was a whippersnapper.
Post by: Anthony on January 27, 2022, 03:55:01 AM
TMIAHM was another major influence on me when I was a whippersnapper.
TMIAHM? Indonesian Mobster? New breakfast cereal? ::)
Post by: Rush on January 27, 2022, 04:34:25 AM
TMIAHM? Indonesian Mobster? New breakfast cereal? ::)
I could tell you or you could go back and read where I quoted Jim. ;D
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 27, 2022, 07:12:51 AM
TMIAHM? Indonesian Mobster? New breakfast cereal? ::)
While it's not a normal acronym, it is one that Rush favors...
Post by: Rush on January 27, 2022, 07:25:39 AM
While it's not a normal acronym, it is one that Rush favors...
I was just too lazy to type out the whole title.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 27, 2022, 08:04:13 AM
I was just too lazy to type out the whole title.
I thought that might be the case, but wasn’t going to accuse you of that
Post by: Rush on January 27, 2022, 08:22:45 AM
I thought that might be the case, but wasn’t going to accuse you of that
I heard somebody say recently that we are all inclined toward laziness by evolutionary instinct. In prehistoric times when you had to work every day for your food, Mother Nature had to force you to rest, because rest is needed to heal and recharge, so you were inclined to do nothing (be lazy) whenever you had the opportunity and didn’t need to hunt or gather or kill tigers at the moment. Nowadays with food aplenty, especially if you don’t have to work for it (welfare, unemployment, stimulus money, etc.) laziness becomes a vice. It’s very bad for society because it inclines people to become parasites on the remaining workers.
Similar to how the love of sweets was good for us as cavemen, we got energy and vitamins from honey and fruit, it is very bad for us today as we overconsume sugar and carbs.
Same with fat storage. Good for us in cycles of feast and famine, terrible for us with modern food production.
Our technology has us completely at odds with our genetic wiring in so many ways and it’s destroying us.
Maybe I’m overthinking this.
Post by: Anthony on January 27, 2022, 09:16:37 AM
I could tell you or you could go back and read where I quoted Jim. ;D
Not worth my time.
Post by: Mr Pou on January 27, 2022, 09:22:01 AM
I heard somebody say recently that we are all inclined toward laziness by evolutionary instinct. In prehistoric times when you had to work every day for your food, Mother Nature had to force you to rest, because rest is needed to heal and recharge, so you were inclined to do nothing (be lazy) whenever you had the opportunity and didn’t need to hunt or gather or kill tigers at the moment. Nowadays with food aplenty, especially if you don’t have to work for it (welfare, unemployment, stimulus money, etc.) laziness becomes a vice. It’s very bad for society because it inclines people to become parasites on the remaining workers.
Similar to how the love of sweets was good for us as cavemen, we got energy and vitamins from honey and fruit, it is very bad for us today as we overconsume sugar and carbs.
Same with fat storage. Good for us in cycles of feast and famine, terrible for us with modern food production.
Our technology has us completely at odds with our genetic wiring in so many ways and it’s destroying us.
Maybe I’m overthinking this.
Yes and no. We still have free will not to eat that crap. Last night he wife made a wonderful chicken marsala spagetti bake, it tasted wonderful, but I limited myself to one medium sized bowl. I could have easily eaten three bowls, but I chose moderation.
People need to chose moderation, and not just in their eating habits.
Post by: Rush on January 27, 2022, 09:31:32 AM
Not worth my time.
Alrighty then. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress.
Post by: Rush on January 27, 2022, 09:35:30 AM
Yes and no. We still have free will not to eat that crap. Last night he wife made a wonderful chicken marsala spagetti bake, it tasted wonderful, but I limited myself to one medium sized bowl. I could have easily eaten three bowls, but I chose moderation.
People need to chose moderation, and not just in their eating habits.
I never said otherwise. We use free will and intellect to restrain ourselves from doing all sorts of instinctive tendencies.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 27, 2022, 11:07:42 AM
...
Maybe I’m overthinking this.
I hope so... otherwise tech will kill us...
Post by: Rush on January 27, 2022, 11:23:37 AM
I hope so... otherwise tech will kill us...
It’s definitely causing us to devolve.
Post by: Anthony on January 27, 2022, 11:49:14 AM
Alrighty then. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress.
They all are. Don't ask me how I know.
;)
Post by: elwood blues on January 27, 2022, 02:26:00 PM
3,143 - 535 = another 2,608 FedGov politicians? God help us.
I don't think it would be that bad for at least two reasons: the founders intended it to be that way and looking at a county-by-county map of nearly every election, the House would be conservative by a 9:1 margin and the senate closer to 97:3.
Post by: nddons on January 27, 2022, 05:44:25 PM
I don't think it would be that bad for at least two reasons: the founders intended it to be that way and looking at a county-by-county map of nearly every election, the House would be conservative by a 9:1 margin and the senate closer to 97:3.You have more trust in politicians that call themselves “conservative” than I do, but good point.
Post by: Anthony on January 28, 2022, 01:55:15 AM
You have more trust in politicians that call themselves “conservative” than I do, but good point.
They are few and far between. Now most occupy the Establishment Swamp.
Post by: Lucifer on January 28, 2022, 09:42:08 AM
Post by: Rush on January 28, 2022, 10:41:07 AM
(https://img.patriotpost.us/01FT66ESQP33WFZ84T4GQPKTT6.jpeg?w=1024&dpr=1&q=75)
Fact checked. Yes he said that.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 28, 2022, 11:19:45 AM
Fact checked. Yes he said that.
do you have a reference? yup - I'm lazy...
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 28, 2022, 12:07:27 PM
Post by: Rush on January 28, 2022, 01:42:57 PM
do you have a reference? yup - I'm lazy...
I was referring to Biden. I don’t know if Stalin said that.
https://newzworldtoday.com/joe-biden-declares-2022-victory-its-about-who-gets-to-count-the-vote/
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 29, 2022, 07:35:29 AM
Post by: Rush on January 29, 2022, 07:43:42 AM
The transformation continues......
She’s not the only one. The Dems are losing the registration advantage big time. This is ominous news for Dems for the midterms.
Post by: Number7 on January 29, 2022, 08:44:26 AM
I would never put that past scum like schumer pig-losi and the coward john roberts.
Post by: Rush on January 29, 2022, 08:52:27 AM
We may be hearing the day when the democrats do a stalk and simply announce that winners without bothering to hold the election.
I would never put that past scum like schumer pig-losi and the coward john roberts.
Notice how they whine and complain about Jan 6 protestors trying to subvert the constitution and at the same time declare that SC justices should promote social change instead of upholding the constitution.
They’re out to stay in power PERIOD that’s all they care about. I don’t put it past them to do ANYTHING, not even deliberately start a nuclear exchange with Russia just so they can declare martial law, suspend elections and do exactly what you just said - declare themselves in charge for the foreseeable future which of course, like mask mandates, will become permanent.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 29, 2022, 09:06:53 AM
Post by: jb1842 on January 29, 2022, 09:21:04 AM
Anyone find it interesting that Pelosi decided to run again? Is there something she knows?
She's just a power hungry meglomaniac who doesn't know anything else. She'll keep running as long as retarded and dead people keep voting for her.
Post by: nddons on January 29, 2022, 12:42:14 PM
We may be hearing the day when the democrats do a stalin and simply announce that winners without bothering to hold the election.Fuck, they’ve been practicing that for years now, claiming the debate is over on climate, gender, covid, immunology, and “truth.”
I would never put that past scum like schumer pig-losi and the coward john roberts.
Even Trudeau feels he can stand in front of the country of Canada and say these truckers are spreading “disinformation.”
WHO THE FUCK DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH THE “CORRECT” INFORMATION???????
Post by: nddons on January 29, 2022, 12:46:10 PM
Notice how they whine and complain about Jan 6 protestors trying to subvert the constitution and at the same time declare that SC justices should promote social change instead of upholding the constitution.Unlike any other country on the planet, there will be a LOT of dead politicians if they try to pull that shit.
They’re out to stay in power PERIOD that’s all they care about. I don’t put it past them to do ANYTHING, not even deliberately start a nuclear exchange with Russia just so they can declare martial law, suspend elections and do exactly what you just said - declare themselves in charge for the foreseeable future which of course, like mask mandates, will become permanent.
Post by: nddons on January 29, 2022, 12:47:54 PM
Anyone find it interesting that Pelosi decided to run again? Is there something she knows?Yes, I did find that weird. I wonder if she’s doing this to convince other dem incumbents to not abandon ship.
Post by: Little Joe on January 29, 2022, 01:15:45 PM
Yes, I did find that weird. I wonder if she’s doing this to convince other dem incumbents to not abandon ship.I think she just doesn't want to let go of the power, even if she is no longer speaker of the house she will be a powerful Congressciritter.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 29, 2022, 02:52:48 PM
Fuck, they’ve been practicing that for years now, claiming the debate is over on climate, gender, covid, immunology, and “truth.”Trudeau turned tail and ran.
Even Trudeau feels he can stand in front of the country of Canada and say these truckers are spreading “disinformation.”
WHO THE FUCK DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH THE “CORRECT” INFORMATION? ??? ???
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 01, 2022, 08:05:55 AM
https://rumble.com/vtlq96-explosive-new-surveillance-footage-of-ballot-drop-boxes.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=ncl_amplify&utm_campaign=20220131-statement_by_donald_j_trump_45th_president_of_the_united_states_of_america&utm_content=ncl-7R6mEXT3PE&_nlid=7R6mEXT3PE&_nhids=P2kmCVDw
Post by: Rush on February 01, 2022, 08:48:12 AM
Upcoming movie trailer......
https://rumble.com/vtlq96-explosive-new-surveillance-footage-of-ballot-drop-boxes.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=ncl_amplify&utm_campaign=20220131-statement_by_donald_j_trump_45th_president_of_the_united_states_of_america&utm_content=ncl-7R6mEXT3PE&_nlid=7R6mEXT3PE&_nhids=P2kmCVDw
I hope that is all confirmed with evidence although the left and msm will claim it’s all made up. That needs to go viral. Grassroots people need to keep 24/7 guard on drop boxes if they are used again. They should not be.
Post by: Number7 on February 01, 2022, 07:22:55 PM
Fuck those mother fucking, scum bags.
The film shows the truth and those mother fucking congress members are doing their best to criminalize
disagreeing with their criminal enterprise.
Post by: Rush on February 01, 2022, 07:25:08 PM
The corrupt pigs that stole military ballots ought to be charged with treason and executed.
Fuck those mother fucking, scum bags.
The film shows the truth and those mother fucking congress members are doing their best to criminalize
disagreeing with their criminal enterprise.
Agree.
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 23, 2022, 12:16:49 PM
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Favorito-Appellant-Brief-Fulton-Counterfeit-Ballot-Case.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Favorito-Appellant-Brief-Fulton-Counterfeit-Ballot-Case.pdf)
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 23, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
https://www.gaappeals.us/docket/results_one_record.php?docr_case_num=A22A0939 (https://www.gaappeals.us/docket/results_one_record.php?docr_case_num=A22A0939)
If I understand it, it looks like the appeal will will be heard sometime in May.
Post by: Little Joe on February 23, 2022, 03:09:32 PM
Did a search and found the appeal on the Georgia Court of Appeals docket:And in May, the first words out of the defense attorney's mouth will be "we request a continuance . . ."
https://www.gaappeals.us/docket/results_one_record.php?docr_case_num=A22A0939 (https://www.gaappeals.us/docket/results_one_record.php?docr_case_num=A22A0939)
If I understand it, it looks like the appeal will will be heard sometime in May.
And the first words out of the Judge's mouth will be "Granted".
Post by: texasag93 on February 27, 2022, 04:24:57 PM
Post by: Lucifer on March 02, 2022, 05:54:32 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 09, 2022, 04:53:03 AM
https://rumble.com/vwmwup-voterga-press-conference-march-7th.html
Post by: bflynn on March 09, 2022, 10:33:37 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 09, 2022, 10:55:31 AM
Why is it not 21? 10+6+3+2, all logged in the same minuteThe slide shows that one person appeared to have adjudicated 10 ballots causing TIF images to be created at the exact same time.
Watch the video.
Post by: bflynn on March 09, 2022, 06:12:55 PM
I used to write (non election) software and still install/use it. Without knowing the system, it’s suspicious but I’m not sure firm conclusions can be drawn. The system I wrote had a batch processing mode and depending on the size of a batch, logging would appear to process a large number of records in a short time period.
I also observe the software appear poorly written since they didn’t include the seconds in the audit log.
Post by: Number7 on March 09, 2022, 08:21:02 PM
Everyone wants their time trying reason, or facts with pussies like flynn and steingar.
Post by: bflynn on March 10, 2022, 07:54:51 AM
Those who sold out to the establishment will never admit they were played by the fucking democrat communists.
Everyone wants their time trying reason, or facts with pussies like flynn and steingar.
Those who were suckered and played will also never admit it. When there are solid facts, I acknowledge them. I can absolutely be swayed by facts and logic, but I will categorically refute emotional outbursts and unprovable inferences by spoiled children.
Post by: jb1842 on March 10, 2022, 08:04:35 AM
Post by: Rush on March 10, 2022, 08:27:25 AM
Has this been discussed yet? The Constitution states that men and women can vote. So all these things that state they don't have a gender, they can't vote, right? Can we legally turn them away at the polls or force them to choose a gender in order to vote? Make them realize there are unintended consequences for their stupid decisions.
I think it actually says: “ The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.”
So if you define “sex” as any and all genders you call yourself, then they can vote. If you define “sex” as only male or female, excluding “intersex” or “non-binary gender” then they wouldn’t. This would fail when challenged in court I’m sure, even by the conservative leaning SCOTUS.
Post by: jb1842 on March 10, 2022, 08:36:38 AM
I think it actually says: “ The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.”
So if you define “sex” as any and all genders you call yourself, then they can vote. If you define “sex” as only male or female, excluding “intersex” or “non-binary gender” then they wouldn’t. This would fail when challenged in court I’m sure, even by the conservative leaning SCOTUS.
Ok. Wasn't sure. That makes sense then.
Post by: Number7 on March 10, 2022, 09:16:07 AM
Those who were suckered and played will also never admit it. When there are solid facts, I acknowledge them. I can absolutely be swayed by facts and logic, but I will categorically refute emotional outbursts and unprovable inferences by spoiled children.
You are a lefty fucking troll, pretending to be moderate.
Even you insults resemble those a 12 year old with bad manners.
Post by: nddons on March 10, 2022, 12:45:37 PM
I think it actually says: “ The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.”Since “intersex” and non-binary gender” are made up fictional or fantasy terms that have no basis in science or reality, I can’t see those terms being used to define the legal treatment under the law.
So if you define “sex” as any and all genders you call yourself, then they can vote. If you define “sex” as only male or female, excluding “intersex” or “non-binary gender” then they wouldn’t. This would fail when challenged in court I’m sure, even by the conservative leaning SCOTUS.
Post by: Lucifer on March 10, 2022, 12:53:52 PM
Since “intersex” and non-binary gender” are made up fictional or fantasy terms that have no basis in science or reality, I can’t see those terms being used to define the legal treatment under the law.
You mean made up like “trans sexual”? There is no such thing.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 13, 2022, 07:25:58 AM
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/2022/03/kamala-harris-the-democrats-destroyed-with-her-own-words-in-savage-new-trump-save-america-ad/
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 23, 2022, 05:44:23 PM
Think about this. The media and tech giants, Face Book and Twitter suppressed this story and thus manipulated the election. Anyone here think Biden would have been elected had this story been allowed to come out in all its glory prior to the election instead of being passed off as Russian disinformation. The more I think about this, the more pissed off I become, especially when I see what is happening to our country right now.
Post by: Rush on March 23, 2022, 06:00:41 PM
Think about this. The media and tech giants, Face Book and Twitter suppressed this story and thus manipulated the election. Anyone here think Biden would have been elected had this story been allowed to come out in all its glory prior to the election instead of being passed off as Russian disinformation. The more I think about this, the more pissed off I become, especially when I see what is happening to our country right now.
Yep. Even if you don’t believe in vote fraud, you have to admit this kind of malignant, deliberate propaganda effected the election.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 23, 2022, 06:36:26 PM
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FLASHBACK: 16% of Biden voters would have voted differently if Hunter Biden laptop story was not suppressed by media, big tech
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 25, 2022, 05:07:33 AM
Post by: Lucifer on March 28, 2022, 08:33:48 AM
Post by: Lucifer on March 28, 2022, 09:30:25 AM
Post by: Rush on March 28, 2022, 10:46:24 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/washington-secrets/new-report-255-000-excess-votes-for-biden-in-six-key-2020-states
He’s absolutely right.
Post by: Rush on March 31, 2022, 05:33:02 AM
Here, Ingraham wraps up exactly what’s going on.
Post by: Anthony on March 31, 2022, 05:38:01 AM
Ingraham, Tucker, Bongino, Steyn, Levin, etc can't win against Big Tech, Disney, Comcast, Google, NBC, CBS, ABC ,CNN, NYT, Washington, etc al.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 31, 2022, 05:38:47 AM
One of you might have already posted something about Pelosi going ahead and saying we need to invalidate the midterm results if the Republicans win.
kind of like the dealer calling a misdeal because someone got his hand?
Post by: Rush on March 31, 2022, 05:59:13 AM
The public isn't buying it, except the diehard leftist lunatics.
Post by: Lucifer on March 31, 2022, 06:11:49 AM
I posted this in the election 2020 thread exactly because of the hypocrisy. You can't even call it irony because irony isn't deliberate. The Democrats are being EXACTLY like Putin, using ANY means to keep themselves in power including turning elections into a rubber stamp for themselves. Just like Ingraham says, they now define "democracy" as only when the Democrat party wins - in reality that is the exact opposite of democracy. They are openly engaging in doublespeak. It's also pathological attempts at gaslighting the public: trying to say their rejection of election results is legitimate and not when the shoe is on the other foot.
The public isn't buying it, except the diehard leftist lunatics.
The lunatic leftist keep referring to Ukraine as a democracy. It's not.
Their idea of democracy is single party rule.
Post by: Rush on March 31, 2022, 07:36:39 AM
The lunatic leftist keep referring to Ukraine as a democracy. It's not.
Their idea of democracy is single party rule.
Ukraine is no worse than Canada under Trudeau. Or the U.S. with the Democrats in charge.
Hopefully the U.S. with our Constitutional Republic and 50 states, can withstand the global growth of authoritarianism and keep beating it back a little, like we did in 2016. But it is a constant never ending battle. Those in power everywhere got there by being megalomaniacs. And they will always continue to do so. Charismatic maybe, sometimes with good intentions, but they must always be watched. Even Trump. This is why our Constitution is so important. It retains the power to the people, with the 2nd amendment the ultimate safeguard.
Putin is not wrong to say the West in general and Ukraine in particular are fascists. But, pot kettle. Putin if anything is worse. He’s already fully implemented what Nancy Pelosi is dreaming of in that clip I posted. Pelosi and the Democrats can’t even see they are exactly like Putin.
They’re all thugs and dictators or dictator wannabes.
Post by: Anthony on March 31, 2022, 07:42:03 AM
Ukraine is no worse than Canada under Trudeau. Or the U.S. with the Democrats in charge.
Hopefully the U.S. with our Constitutional Republic and 50 states, can withstand the global growth of authoritarianism and keep beating it back a little, like we did in 2016. But it is a constant never ending battle. Those in power everywhere got there by being megalomaniacs. And they will always continue to do so. Charismatic maybe, sometimes with good intentions, but they must always be watched. Even Trump. This is why our Constitution is so important. It retains the power to the people, with the 2nd amendment the ultimate safeguard.
Putin is not wrong to say the West in general and Ukraine in particular are fascists. But, pot kettle. Putin if anything is worse. He’s already fully implemented what Nancy Pelosi is dreaming of in that clip I posted. Pelosi and the Democrats can’t even see they are exactly like Putin.
They’re all thugs and dictators or dictator wannabes.
That is why the Democrats (Neo-Fascists) either IGNORE the Constitution and/or demonize it using the deflection that it was written by "Old White Slave Owners". Our Constitution is constantly under assault and those in power want to make it null and void or at the least irrelevant. It is truly a work of inspired art and the first time that "The People" were supposed to hold the power not the Royalty like Politicians nor Bureaucrats that now rule with an iron fist.
Post by: Rush on March 31, 2022, 08:29:38 AM
That is why the Democrats (Neo-Fascists) either IGNORE the Constitution and/or demonize it using the deflection that it was written by "Old White Slave Owners". Our Constitution is constantly under assault and those in power want to make it null and void or at the least irrelevant. It is truly a work of inspired art and the first time that "The People" were supposed to hold the power not the Royalty like Politicians nor Bureaucrats that now rule with an iron fist.
That’s why they despise the Constitution and are trying to negate it. Because it empowers the common people, not their self-important narcissistic selves.
Post by: nddons on March 31, 2022, 09:02:15 AM
WTF???!!!! The Dems only get away with saying and doing this crap because the MEDIA, except for a few small players, promote their unethical, untrue statements, illegal policies and actions. The MEDIA needs to be destroyed as we know it. They are the enemy of Free America.We need to rethink how we conservatives are going to fight these companies.
Ingraham, Tucker, Bongino, Steyn, Levin, etc can't win against Big Tech, Disney, Comcast, Google, NBC, CBS, ABC ,CNN, NYT, Washington, etc al.
The Daily Wire is putting their money where their mouth is. They are going to be investing $100 million in a new childrens entertainment business.
They had a live stream on this yesterday. I watched it. I’m already a Daily Wire subscriber, but I’ll be buying a Jeremy’s Razor as well. We need to support the companies that are fighting the establishment.
They talk about where their money comes from, what they are doing with it, etc. I’m enthused.
https://youtu.be/dyrSMGVAq3A
Post by: Anthony on March 31, 2022, 02:12:28 PM
We need to rethink how we conservatives are going to fight these companies.
The Daily Wir
e is putting their money where their mouth is. They are going to be investing $100 million in a new childrens entertainment business.
They had a live stream on this yesterday. I watched it. I’m already a Daily Wire subscriber, but I’ll be buying a Jeremy’s Razor as well. We need to support the companies that are fighting the establishment.
They talk about where their money comes from, what they are doing with it, etc. I’m enthused.
https://youtu.be/dyrSMGVAq3A
YES!!! It's a start. The problem is we can't boycott all the Woke companies because just about all of them embraced this Racist, Marxist crap, but we can try.
Post by: Lucifer on April 20, 2022, 05:44:23 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 20, 2022, 06:24:37 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 15, 2022, 08:33:40 AM
Post by: Rush on May 15, 2022, 08:57:11 AM
It's a start.......
The Chinese are working on facial recognition technology even with masks. We need to apply that to this case.
Also, we need many many more such screen shots and mass distribute them all over social media. There are also image search features that might pull up posts of these people ID'ing them. The FBI is working on this, right? Right???
Post by: Lucifer on May 18, 2022, 04:31:13 AM
Post by: Rush on May 18, 2022, 04:57:52 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KW3iJQb.png)
THIS! I am still traumatized from the night of Nov 4, 2020. It was an absolute Trump win. Same with these midterms. The country is rejecting far leftism and with it the current administration, and the polls reflect that in no uncertain terms. The Democrats know they’re about to lose the House and the Senate, and are certainly planning to cheat heavily in their desperation to hold onto power.
I am not secure that the Republicans have done enough, but hopeful. I’m hoping that Republican watchers will be very vigilant, set up cameras at all drop boxes, not allow to be intimidated into not being involved in counting, etc.
Post by: Lucifer on May 18, 2022, 07:08:06 AM
THIS! I am still traumatized from the night of Nov 4, 2020. It was an absolute Trump win. Same with these midterms. The country is rejecting far leftism and with it the current administration, and the polls reflect that in no uncertain terms. The Democrats know they’re about to lose the House and the Senate, and are certainly planning to cheat heavily in their desperation to hold onto power.
I am not secure that the Republicans have done enough, but hopeful. I’m hoping that Republican watchers will be very vigilant, set up cameras at all drop boxes, not allow to be intimidated into not being involved in counting, etc.
The blue shitholes will have massive fraud. Nothing new. The establishment republicans will try to engineer a few steals. The free states for the most part will have honest elections, and the lunatic left in certain areas will attempt fraud.
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 20, 2022, 01:21:42 PM
https://tennesseestar.com/2022/05/07/votergas-garland-favorito-argues-particularized-injury-in-counterfeit-ballot-case-appeal/ (https://tennesseestar.com/2022/05/07/votergas-garland-favorito-argues-particularized-injury-in-counterfeit-ballot-case-appeal/)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 20, 2022, 06:14:45 PM
Post by: jb1842 on May 22, 2022, 05:15:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KW3iJQb.png)
Right on cue, here comes the Monkeypox. Time for even more mail in voting for everyones safety.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 22, 2022, 05:51:17 AM
Now I want law enforcement in Georgia to go after some of the 200 mules.
Post by: Rush on May 22, 2022, 05:58:04 AM
Won't start another thread. Wife and I went to see 2000 Mules this afternoon. Just unbelievable what happened and as described in the movie, it was the perfect crime. Hundreds of thousands of illegal votes. The only thing that can happen would be for these states to get the data from True the Vote and go after the mules and hope that gets them to the top. Other than that there is no changing the outcome as you would never know what ballots were illegal.
Doesn’t matter. It was an election contaminated irreparably. The results should have been invalidated, an immediate investigation performed, the issue corrected, and the entire election held a second time. THE JAN 6 PROTESTORS WERE CORRECT. That’s all they wanted. It’s a LIE that it was an insurrection. It’s a LIE that it was an attempted coup. The real coup was being conducted by Congress, in certifying an election result EVERYFUCKINGBODY KNEW was fake including the goddamn Supreme Court.
The IC already had that cellphone data. That analysis could have been done well before Jan 20 but we have a completely corrupt FBI.
Look, they even say on their website it is their JOB to investigate allegations of fraud. Millions of citizens were demanding exactly that but instead the FBI gave them a big middle finger and then jailed a bunch of them without due process.
https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/voter-fraud/view
Post by: Number7 on May 22, 2022, 06:26:48 AM
ONLY lies are permitted.
The biggest enemy of liberalism is the truth and liberals HATE truth almost as much as they hate President Donald Trump.
A United States Congressman has demanded that the Capitol Police release tapes from January 6th over “demonstrably false” allegations
Representative Rodney Davis (R-IL.) is demanding that Capitol Police release the footage from January 5th, 2021 over “demonstrably false” claims by the Jan. 6th panel against Republican Congressman Barry Loudermilk (GA.)
The panel accused Representative Loudermilk of leading “reconnaissance tours” at the Capitol on January 5th, 2021 in preparation for the protests the following day.
Representative Davis is standing up against the bogus claims for his fellow Congressmen.
From the Epoch Times:
This charge, Davis said, “is demonstrably false. As you are aware, [Administration] Committee Minority staff have reviewed all footage in question and have confirmed no ‘reconnaissance tours’ occurred.”
Davis also foresaw and rejected claims that the tapes he requested would pose a security risk if released to the public, noting that the same tapes have already been made public in some capacity.
“Any argument that this footage represents sensitive ‘security information’ was destroyed once the Board provided copies to Democrat impeachment managers for public dissemination or it otherwise became available to the public,” Davis wrote.
Davis concludes by stating that if the board refuses to release the footage, he will exercise his authority under 2 U.S.C. $ 1979 to release the footage himself.
Loudermilk is one of many congressmen to have been smeared by the January 6th panel and or the liberal media as “insurrectionists” for their support of President Donald Trump or for their decrying of the stolen election.
Rep. Davis is convinced that releasing the footage for the public to see would clear Loudermilk, who himself stated that he only met with a constituent family “with young children” at the House Office Building on January 5th.
January 6th has become the rally call against all patriots among radical left Democrats and RINOs, as they continue to persecute anyone they perceive as a political threat using bogus claims of insurrection.
https://nworeport.me/2022/05/22/us-congressman-demands-capitol-police-release-tapes-from-jan-6-or-hell-release-them-himself/
Post by: Rush on May 22, 2022, 07:27:44 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 22, 2022, 07:52:36 AM
Post by: Anthony on May 22, 2022, 07:58:38 AM
This is systematic political persecution.
We've become the Soviet Union or East Germany.
Post by: Lucifer on May 22, 2022, 08:21:01 AM
We've become the Soviet Union or East Germany.
Let’s look at that.
We have a puppet leader placed into office under very dubious means. The administration is filled with people hiding behind a political party who in reality are hardcore Marxist.
The federal government has set up a gulag in DC to persecute political dissenters. They have weaponized the largest law enforcement agency to go after dissenters. We now have a Ministry of Truth, and a Ministry of Health that follow a strict ideology rather than actual science or information.
The puppet in the WH has now declared over half of citizens to be Domestic Terrorist, and has given his Ministry of Justice the power to go after them. He’s also declared that children belong to the Ministry of Education, to be properly indoctrinated.
His Ministry of Weapons are now enforcing his edicts on guns without following written law.
We are about, give or take, fifty percent through a total overthrow of the federal government. If it’s eventually defeated, it will take years to fix and route out the remaining communist.
What sets us apart from other countries that have gone through this is how our country is set up. 50 states. While the blue shitholes will happily fall in line with the Marxist, the red free states will not. The red free states have the will, and the economic authority not to go along, and exist without the blood sucking blue shitholes.
Post by: nddons on May 24, 2022, 11:35:16 AM
I see they managed to take down Cawthorn in NC.I think that was more of a self-inflicted wound by Cawthorn. I’m bummed because I had high hopes for him.
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2022, 12:52:51 PM
Let’s look at that.
We have a puppet leader placed into office under very dubious means. The administration is filled with people hiding behind a political party who in reality are hardcore Marxist.
The federal government has set up a gulag in DC to persecute political dissenters. They have weaponized the largest law enforcement agency to go after dissenters. We now have a Ministry of Truth, and a Ministry of Health that follow a strict ideology rather than actual science or information.
The puppet in the WH has now declared over half of citizens to be Domestic Terrorist, and has given his Ministry of Justice the power to go after them. He’s also declared that children belong to the Ministry of Education, to be properly indoctrinated.
His Ministry of Weapons are now enforcing his edicts on guns without following written law.
We are about, give or take, fifty percent through a total overthrow of the federal government. If it’s eventually defeated, it will take years to fix and route out the remaining communist.
What sets us apart from other countries that have gone through this is how our country is set up. 50 states. While the blue shitholes will happily fall in line with the Marxist, the red free states will not. The red free states have the will, and the economic authority not to go along, and exist without the blood sucking blue shitholes.
Not just government. Education, large Corporations, including Tech, MEDIA, Entertainment. It's all controlled by the Nazi Party. If you misspeak, you're sent to the Eastern Front.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on June 27, 2022, 04:10:44 AM
Post by: Lucifer on July 16, 2022, 08:20:30 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 16, 2022, 08:44:03 AM
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2022, 03:23:27 PM
Post by: Rush on July 17, 2022, 03:58:50 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/huge-data-supporting-final-results-2020-election-not-reconcile-voting-machine-files-something-wrong/
Just to be clear:
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According to the Edison data charts President Trump was in the lead all night, then there was a massive injection of Biden votes after Florida was called for Trump – just like we saw in MI, PA, GA, etc.
When taking the records as stored in the state’s Election Management System (EMS) you’ll notice that the Biden votes that were injected at the end of counting on TV are now spread out so it doesn’t look like there was a massive Biden ballot dump.
If elections were honestly counted, reported, and recorded, then the two plots would have the same shape. But they don’t. In Rhode Island, it looks like the elections system software shuffled the last-minute stuffed votes into the record to spread them out and make them look natural. So if anyone checks the Cast Vote Record later, it won’t look like obvious ballot stuffing.
This was found to be the same in multiple states and in all the records reviewed. None of the Cast Vote Records agreed with the Edison data.
We saw it in real time as it happened and knew something was very wrong.
Post by: jb1842 on July 17, 2022, 06:01:55 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 17, 2022, 06:17:46 AM
All counts should be released at the same time. All east coast results should be sat on until the west coast is counted. In theory it should help prevent the west coast manufacturing the votes needed to overcome the deficit needed to steal the election if the east coast voates aren't going their way. And all vote counting should be a spectator sport in a large arena open to the public. All ballots get a barcode unique to the voter. At anytime the voter can look up their ballot and see if their vote was recorded properly.
Even that wouldn't prevent fraud. It's easy enough to show individual results and have the reported total count not correcly reflect the sum of all actual legitimate ballots.
Post by: Number7 on July 17, 2022, 06:21:31 AM
All counts should be released at the same time. All east coast results should be sat on until the west coast is counted. In theory, it should help prevent the west coast from manufacturing the votes needed to overcome the deficit needed to steal the election if the east coast votes aren't going their way. And all vote counting should be a spectator sport in a large arena open to the public. All ballots get a barcode unique to the voter. At any time the voter can look up their ballot and see if their vote was recorded properly.
If you think back to when bathhouse barry was running for the nomination, Nevada had the counting going on in a big gymnasium and the people complained all night about the blatant way votes were changed, ignored, or double counted, and it was in plain sight.
Post by: jb1842 on July 17, 2022, 06:22:58 AM
Even that wouldn't prevent fraud. It's easy enough to show individual results and have the reported total count not correcly reflect the sum of all actual legitimate ballots.
Probably not, but at least it would show the left we know they are cheating and aren't just rolling over and giving up.
Post by: Rush on July 17, 2022, 06:29:07 AM
Post by: Lucifer on July 17, 2022, 06:58:44 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 20, 2022, 09:46:35 AM
Watch Steve Bannon say it out loud.
https://gab.com/TommyRobinsonOfficial/posts/108679147635792550
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 28, 2022, 09:32:46 AM
Worth an hour of your time
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 27, 2022, 07:56:07 PM
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Press-Release-GA-Supreme-Court-Rules-Voters-Have-Standing.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Press-Release-GA-Supreme-Court-Rules-Voters-Have-Standing.pdf)
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ATLANTA, GA, OCTOBER 27, 2022 – The Georgia Supreme Court confirmed Tuesday what most informed Georgians have known all along. The court found that Georgia citizens, including voters, have standing to sue government officials who violate Georgia law.
The court overturned parts of lower court rulings in cases entitled Sons of Confederate Veterans et al, vs. Henry County Board of Commissioners and Sons of Confederate Veterans et al, v. Newton County Board of Commissioners. In those cases, the organization was joined by individuals who sued the county boards for voting to remove statutes that are legally protected under O.C.G.A. 50-3-1. The lower courts falsely claimed that the petitioners had no standing to sue.
The ruling applies to individuals and organizations who have citizens, residents or taxpayers in a jurisdiction. It confirms arguments made by Petitioners in the Fulton County counterfeit ballot case known as Favorito et al, v. Wan et al. That case, originally entitled Favorito et al, v. Cooney et al was dismissed after 10 months of hearings for lack of standing. The dismissal came after the county hired criminal defense attorneys to prevent petitioners from inspecting ballots. That case has a pending writ of certiorari before the Supreme Court.
VoterGA co-founder Garland Favorito stated: “Georgia voters were unjustly denied their Equal Protection and Due Process rights to ensure only legal votes were counted in the 2020 election. We will do everything within our power to overturn the bogus ruling we received and preserve all 2020 election ballots.”
In theory this means the Georgia Supreme Court would find that the Fulton County lawsuit would proceed and the ballots (if they still exist) can be examined.
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 27, 2022, 08:13:37 PM
"Courts are not vehicles for engaging in merely academic debates or deciding purely theoretical questions. We “say what the law is” only as needed to resolve an actual controversy. To that end, only plaintiffs with a cognizable injury can bring a suit in Georgia courts. Unlike federal law, however, that injury need not always be individualized; sometimes it can be a generalized grievance shared by community members, especially other residents, taxpayers, voters, or citizens."
The VoterGA case was dismissed because the judge ruled that while the plaintiffs may have had a generalized grievance, it was not individualized and therefore they had no standing. In this case the higher court said one can have standing even in the case of a generalized grievance.
Post by: Rush on October 28, 2022, 03:25:18 AM
Just FYI, this appears to be the relevant bit from the cited Georgia case:
"Courts are not vehicles for engaging in merely academic debates or deciding purely theoretical questions. We “say what the law is” only as needed to resolve an actual controversy. To that end, only plaintiffs with a cognizable injury can bring a suit in Georgia courts. Unlike federal law, however, that injury need not always be individualized; sometimes it can be a generalized grievance shared by community members, especially other residents, taxpayers, voters, or citizens."
The VoterGA case was dismissed because the judge ruled that while the plaintiffs may have had a generalized grievance, it was not individualized and therefore they had no standing. In this case the higher court said one can have standing even in the case of a generalized grievance.
If nothing else this sends a clear message that we are watching the elections very closely now. They will have to hide their cheating much better.
Post by: elwood blues on December 02, 2022, 08:31:48 PM
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2022, 08:34:19 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 02, 2022, 09:57:22 PM
The truth is starting to come out.
Your youtube link was missing the https prefix so didn't work for me. I reposted below.
Also saw this article: https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musks-twitter-files-abuse-power/ (https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musks-twitter-files-abuse-power/)
Post by: Anthony on December 02, 2022, 11:57:52 PM
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2022, 05:18:24 AM
Post by: Rush on December 03, 2022, 08:55:38 AM
Your youtube link was missing the https prefix so didn't work for me. I reposted below.
Also saw this article: https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musks-twitter-files-abuse-power/ (https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musks-twitter-files-abuse-power/)
Very good summary. Reading the dump is painful because of Twitter’s character limitation but Tucker hits the main points. Anxious to see what more comes out today.
Post by: nddons on December 05, 2022, 05:22:10 PM
Google, Facebook, MSN, Comcast, etc., do the same things.But the curtain has been pulled back. For years even the idea of censorship from these platforms was deemed a conspiracy theory, and nothing more. It’s going to be more difficult for these platforms to lie that they aren’t doing it when the evidence is overwhelming that they are.
Post by: Rush on December 05, 2022, 05:45:11 PM
But the curtain has been pulled back. For years even the idea of censorship from these platforms was deemed a conspiracy theory, and nothing more. It’s going to be more difficult for these platforms to lie that they aren’t doing it when the evidence is overwhelming that they are.
But they’re still trying:
https://babylonbee.com/news/dnc-media-collude-to-suppress-story-about-dnc-media-colluding-to-suppress-story
Post by: Number7 on December 05, 2022, 08:46:27 PM
Post by: Anthony on December 06, 2022, 04:00:11 AM
But the curtain has been pulled back. For years even the idea of censorship from these platforms was deemed a conspiracy theory, and nothing more. It’s going to be more difficult for these platforms to lie that they aren’t doing it when the evidence is overwhelming that they are.
And my point is Google. Facebook, MSN, Apple, Comcast and all the rest of these Fascist propaganda pushers need to be EXPOSED also. Most of the public believes them at this point.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 06, 2022, 04:08:53 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on December 06, 2022, 04:13:29 AM
what could go wrong
(I did a screen capture because copying text from the pdf gets munged and I'm far too lazy to retype it)
Post by: Lucifer on December 09, 2022, 06:45:54 AM
Post by: Anthony on December 09, 2022, 07:03:07 AM
sen warren (from taxachusetts) is now calling for government regulation/oversight of digital media...
what could go wrong
(I did a screen capture because copying text from the pdf gets munged and I'm far too lazy to retype it)
Right out of the Soviet and Nazi playbooks.
Post by: Lucifer on December 12, 2022, 05:55:04 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 13, 2022, 08:53:17 AM
https://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/1602134622283759616
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 24, 2022, 01:14:41 PM
Finally some potentially good news in the two-year-old Georgia Fulton County mail ballot case:
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Press-Release-GA-Supreme-Court-Rules-Voters-Have-Standing.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Press-Release-GA-Supreme-Court-Rules-Voters-Have-Standing.pdf)
In theory this means the Georgia Supreme Court would find that the Fulton County lawsuit would proceed and the ballots (if they still exist) can be examined.
And as a small Christmas gift, the Georgia Supreme Court has indeed overturned the judge who said the plaintiffs didn't have standing and the case may proceed in the appeals court:
https://voterga.org/2022/12/21/a-christmas-present-from-voterga-to-all-georgia-voters/ (https://voterga.org/2022/12/21/a-christmas-present-from-voterga-to-all-georgia-voters/)
So far "only" two years into the case. One hopes that as slow as the wheels of justice turn, they eventually grind out some justice.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 24, 2022, 01:40:43 PM
And as a small Christmas gift, the Georgia Supreme Court has indeed overturned the judge who said the plaintiffs didn't have standing and the case may proceed in the appeals court:Yes, saw that the other day.
https://voterga.org/2022/12/21/a-christmas-present-from-voterga-to-all-georgia-voters/ (https://voterga.org/2022/12/21/a-christmas-present-from-voterga-to-all-georgia-voters/)
So far "only" two years into the case. One hopes that as slow as the wheels of justice turn, they eventually grind out some justice.
Post by: Lucifer on December 30, 2022, 11:42:55 AM
The End of Free Elections?
By Jay Valentine
December 28, 2022
This week, leftists and RINOs admitted, under oath, that they changed the print settings, on election morning, so Republican votes would not be tabulated, on the one day most Republicans vote -- and the Maricopa County judge said “…it wasn’t intentional.”
A Republican governor candidate who easily won by multiple points was denied her rightful election. Several million Arizona voters were disenfranchised.
Not a word from Republican leaders!
Wake up, America.
Leftists and RINOs have spent the last 40 years transforming election machinery to end your right to vote -- and they are about to finish the job.
This week, the governor of Minnesota took the lead by planning to register, automatically, teenagers not old enough to vote. On election day, there will be tens of thousands of names, with little history, who can be voted by election commissions when needed.
Democrats are proposing laws making it a felony to question an election. Of course they are!
Breitbart, Fox News, and about every other mainstream controlled opposition are cowed into submission.
Election commissions regularly add to election rolls, automatically, every person using any state service – even if that person has not requested to be an elector. Your illegal migrant, getting welfare or a driver’s license can be automatically added to the state rolls. What could go wrong?
While this is happening, hapless Republicans claim to have found the secret to election victory -- get better at ballot harvesting or gathering.
This is the Republican Party that should provide pushback against industrial-scale, sovereign voter fraud. Unfortunately, they see the problem of floating ballots; they do not see, or do not choose to see, the problem of ever-expanding voter rolls with people who never chose to vote.
Working with Mike Lindell, we currently run the voter rolls for a dozen states and have the data for several more. In every case, the number of “voter registration anomalies” is from 5% to 18% of the voter roll.
A voter anomaly?
Try the 41 voters registered in a hotel in Missouri. How about the registered voters in the Harris County, Texas prison? Examples are so numerous we have a website to cover them.
When most, probably all, states have a float of anomalous voters from 5% to almost 20%, an election commission can control the election outcome for any close election. Elections are mostly close today.
We find “sleepers.” These are the silent voters who never voted before -- even though they are on election rolls for a decade -- but when needed they jump to life and vote. After the 2020 election, several states ran the query: show all voters, on the voter rolls four years or more, who never before voted, yet voted in 2020.
The response, delivered with Fractal technology, was in the hundreds of thousands.
Nobody claims these were fraudulent. Neither can anyone claim they were all valid -- particularly since so many lived in hotels, churches, prisons, and scores of other addresses which cannot house a valid voter.
This happened in every swing state. The one constant: they never win elections for a Republican. Go figure.
The Fractal team and three state voter integrity teams in Nevada, Florida, and Wisconsin met late in 2022 after realizing that fake voters, found by the hundreds of thousands, in Republican and Democrat states, when challenged, were mostly kept on voter rolls.
In several glaring examples, college frat houses with 106-year-old, active registered voters were just fine with the election judge. I personally showed dozens of registered voters, each over 1,900 years old, to the Secretary of State of a red state, and he saw no problem.
This, people, is the terrain.
The end of free, fair elections is in sight.
We are one national election -- 2024 -- away from ending election-based choosing of the government and turning freedom over to election commissions with phantom voter rolls and jiggered printers controlled by leftists.
The teams in Nevada, Florida, and Wisconsin spent two years deep in voter rolls and they, and we, are delivering a hopeful solution.
Paraphrasing Albert Einstein, one cannot solve a problem with the same technology that created it.
Our teams are building a family of processes to clean voter rolls, real time, daily and weekly, at the county level, using government data to challenge government data.
We ingested the property tax rolls for several large Texas counties and reconciled them with voter rolls. We showed, with a single click, thousands of registered voters living in clearly invalid addresses -- hotels, laundromats, prisons, flower shops, and a Mongolian restaurant.
Armed with government data, election integrity teams go to the county registrar and demand either the county tax record be changed to a residence and taxed as such (lower tax) or the county voter roll be amended and this voter challenged.
This is called government data reconciliation. You cannot be one person on a voter roll and a different person on a tax roll at the same time.
This was computationally impossible with current SQL, relational technology. Taking tax rolls with thousands to millions of addresses and comparing them to equally large voter rolls would take weeks to process and cost millions.
With Fractal technology, our team does it with a single click, delivering the data to a tablet or phone, in seconds, while the voter integrity person sits in front of the county tax recorder or the voter registration clerk.
We were asked to do an expert witness report for the Kari Lake election. The attorney told us we could not “…do another Matt Braynard.” By that he meant, the data had to be perfect, accurate, and not able to be challenged.
Using Fractal technology, we take government data, property tax records, the gold standard in address validation, and compare them with tax rolls. This isn’t done once. It is done constantly. It is impossible to challenge -- it is their government data, real time, showing things don’t reconcile.
The result is a constant back and forth of voter registration rolls with property tax records. Around election times, when leftists add thousands of new voters, the Fractal system checks every one of them against the property tax roll – constantly in real time.
A major bucket for ballot gathering is mailing to undeliverable addresses. These can be apartment buildings with no unit number designated. College dorms with mail sent to recently graduated students is another.
The Fractal system, with local voter teams, builds an ongoing database, updated constantly, of undeliverable addresses.
Voter integrity teams add other government databases.
The Federal Election Commission database, cross searched, shows “contribution mules.” Those are the retired person, living in a modest home, making 6,000 contributions a year to candidates. Want to guess to which party?
We cannot stop election commissions from changing print settings, but we can keep them mostly honest on election rolls by reconciling one government database with another and forcing the government to make them match -- constantly.
We are on a journey to ingest the voter rolls and county tax rolls for 3,200 U.S. counties for 2024.
Let’s see how many counties want to tax that Mongolian restaurant as a residence since their voter registration rolls show 20 voters live there?
Source: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/12/the_end_of_free_elections_.html
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 13, 2023, 10:48:45 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 02, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
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BREAKING: Palm Beach County Election Officials Caught Falsifying Machine Election Reports As Pressure Builds In Florida Over Discovery Of Massive Machine Election Fraud
Post by: Lucifer on May 02, 2023, 04:04:37 PM
https://miamiindependent.com/breaking-palm-beach-county-election-officials-caught-falsifying-machine-election-reports-as-pressure-builds-in-florida-over-discovery-of-massive-machine-election-fraud/
Nothing to see here...........move along...........
Post by: Lucifer on May 29, 2023, 03:31:01 PM
Post by: Lucifer on May 29, 2023, 03:38:54 PM
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K.T. McFarland, who served as President Trump's deputy national security advisor under Mike Flynn for the first few months of the Trump administration, told FBN's Maria Bartiromo on Sunday that she believes the FBI, CIA, and the intelligence community will try to interfere in the 2024 election to "protect their own hides" by covering up evidence of interference in 2016 and 2020.
"They will absolutely interfere in 2024. We're not sure how but they will absolutely interfere, not only because they're not going to like whoever the Republican candidate is, but to protect their own hides," McFarland said. "They knew they were doing stuff wrong. They knew they were going to be liable for prosecution."
"They can't possibly admit they were wrong because that undercuts their whole reason for being. So they're going to continue to have this fake narrative and continue to cover up and pretend that nothing bad went on," she said.
K.T. MCFARLAND: Well, I knew because I was a victim of it. When the Mueller investigation and the FBI came after me in the early days of the Trump administration, they knew I hadn't committed any crime but that didn't matter. They just wanted to go after anybody associated with President Trump in hopes they could break them or get them to lie, or at a minimum bankrupt them.
But I think, as I take a step back, and it's not just about me, it's not just about President Trump, what is it about?
We now have black-and-white evidence that the FBI interfered in the 2016 election. And then when they failed to get their candidate elected, Hillary Clinton, they set out to destroy the Trump administration.
So then go back up to 2020. This time, it was the CIA that got involved in the 2020 election with those 51 former intel agents who talked about the Hunter Biden laptop as "total Russian disinformation."
So they've gotten away with it for two elections. They will for sure get away with it -- try and get away with it in 2024, right? Because there are no consequences. The difference is in 2024, the evidence is there. We now have the Durham investigation and all the Congressional investigations.
There is now hard evidence that there was election interference by the U.S. intelligence agencies and the Department of Justice. Those individuals have got to be terrified. Those individuals have to be terrified that a Republican president comes in in the 2024 election, with a Republican Attorney General, and investigates them and charges them with all of the crimes they have committed over the last eight years.
MARIA BARTIROMO: Well, we'll see if you're right. There are questions about these elections because of this interference. Do you think there will be election interference in 2024?
K.T. MCFARLAND: Take it to the bank. They will absolutely interfere in 2024. We're not sure how but they will absolutely interfere, not only because they're not going to like whoever the Republican candidate is, but to protect their own hides.
That's why they were talking to their own people, and the whistleblower brought this up, they were told "Don't put anything on paper, just tell us orally." They knew they were doing stuff wrong. They knew they were going to be liable for prosecution.
MARIA BARTIROMO: Yeah, it's too bad. I wish the media were more curious about all of this. Unfortunately, the media takes the narrative of the Democratic Party and runs with it and then tries to cancel anybody who's not on board.
K.T. MCFARLAND: Well, they're in the same position. They can't possibly admit they were wrong because that undercuts their whole reason for being. So they're going to continue to have this fake narrative and continue to cover up and pretend that nothing bad went on.
They're all in it together. This is what the terrible thing is. These people are selling us out. Not only to foreign leaders, but they are interfering in our elections. They are tearing up the Constitution. Why? Because they want to protect their jobs and protect their ratings.
I never thought I would be this upset about how anybody in the government was performing, but this is just a gut punch to the American people.
Post by: Anthony on May 30, 2023, 02:53:10 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 03, 2023, 12:16:39 PM
Post by: Lucifer on June 08, 2023, 02:38:49 PM
Candidate Mike Pence Outlines the GOPe Playbook to Take Down MAGA Trump
June 8, 2023 | Sundance
People ask me every day how I can remain optimistic when everything around us is created by lies, deceit, manipulation and corruption. The answer is simple, truth is power.
The arguments of the liars are weak, constructed on fraud and dependent on the lack of knowledge by the average person. If you want to live in the light of truth, don’t be average – be extraordinary. This is the nature of our Treehouse assembly, and it grows naturally larger every single day. The truth has no agenda.
There is a coordination in the background, we can all see and feel it. Inherently, instinctually we can sense it. It is not coincidental that on the same day the DC aligned media begin pushing stories of Trump indictments – stories not coincidentally based on timed, purposeful leaks – we see the great deceiver, Mike Pence, stand with forked tongue and grand prose to push a narrative based on Machiavellian fraud. History will not look kindly upon Pence; his dark-shadowed eyes will deepen as his shallowed self diminishes.
President Trump did not ask, tell or instruct Mike Pence to violate the constitution; he simply wanted Pence to send a request for election review *back to the state* legislative bodies, where a determination of election accuracy could take place, before federal certification. THAT state legislative process is exactly what the constitution outlines. Pence is a fraud, a liar and a man corrupted deep within his soul to the dark elements of self-interest, financial benefit and corrupt enterprise. WATCH:
(https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Asa-Hutchinson-2024-Election.jpg)
Post by: Number7 on June 08, 2023, 06:55:57 PM
If he is the nominee I’m voting with Jim.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on June 15, 2023, 05:28:44 AM
Post by: Lucifer on June 15, 2023, 05:31:39 AM
RNC sent me an email saying they are exploring pushing for paper ballots only and one-day counting. About a decade or two too late, the traitorous scum. “Exploring.”
Sure.
And, oh by the way,” please send us a donation to help in our effort”
Tell Ronna Botox to go fuck herself.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 15, 2023, 06:24:08 AM
RNC sent me an email saying they are exploring pushing for paper ballots only and one-day counting. About a decade or two too late, the traitorous scum. “Exploring.”And don't forget to send us some money. >:( >:( >:(
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 15, 2023, 10:08:57 AM
Halderman Report on Dominion Vulnerabilities is Released
Post by: Rush on June 15, 2023, 10:42:06 AM
https://t.co/PYHo0579PU
Halderman Report on Dominion Vulnerabilities is Released
Wow. That needs to put the whole 2020 election into question but nothing will come of it.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 15, 2023, 06:10:56 PM
Wow. That needs to put the whole 2020 election into question but nothing will come of it.
I tell all of my friends here that not being able to see what is in the QR code is not right.
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 26, 2023, 06:56:28 PM
Finally some potentially good news in the two-year-old Georgia Fulton County mail ballot case:One year update: yes, the case still plods on. A judge was assigned and the plaintiffs knew he wouldn't be fair, so argued for a new judge in May:
https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Press-Release-GA-Supreme-Court-Rules-Voters-Have-Standing.pdf (https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Press-Release-GA-Supreme-Court-Rules-Voters-Have-Standing.pdf)
In theory this means the Georgia Supreme Court would find that the Fulton County lawsuit would proceed and the ballots (if they still exist) can be examined.
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PETITIONERS' MOTION TO RECUSE
COME NOW, PETITIONERS, GARLAND FAVORITO, TREVOR TERRIS, AND CHRISTOPHER PECK, by and through their attorney of record in the above styled case, and move the Court, pursuant to Uniform Superior Court Rule 25.1, that Honorable Judge Robert McBurney be recused or be disqualified from hearing this civil action. In support of this motion, and pursuant Uniform Superior Court Rule 25.1 and 25.2, the above-named Petitioners have attached an affidavit fully outlining and asserting the facts upon which the motion is founded. Said affidavit details the prejudice or bias toward the moving parties in particular, or a systematic pattern of prejudicial conduct toward persons similarly situated to the moving parties, which would influence the judge and impede or prevent impartiality. This motion is timely filed within five (5) days of when the Affiant first learned of the alleged grounds for disqualification in this particular case. The above-named Petitioners are entitled to RECUSAL or DISQUALIFICATION as there is no just reason for delay.
Respectfully submitted this the 16th day of May, 2023.
Five months later the judge finally orders a reassignment to another judge.
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ORDER OF REASSIGNMENT TO HEAR MOTION TO RECUSE
Petitioners Garland Favorito, Trevor Terris, and Christopher Peck filed a motion to recuse on 16 May 2023. A day later, Petitioner Caroline Jeffords joined in. The motions to recuse were filed after the Honorable Chief Judge Brian J. Amero transferred the case to the undersigned on 12 May 2023.
Pursuant to Uniform Superior Court Rule 25.3, the Court determines that the motions were timely filed and the affidavits are legally sufficient. Accordingly, the Court requests that another judge be assigned to hear the motion.
SO ORDERED this 11th day of October 2023.
Post by: Lucifer on October 29, 2023, 06:24:49 AM
Post by: Rush on October 29, 2023, 08:35:27 AM
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1718282424767959428?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1718282424767959428%7Ctwgr%5E09151321c7154d7b2f8870d73490426fba1cd73d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frantingly.com%2F
Retweeted.
Post by: texasag93 on October 31, 2023, 01:15:36 PM
https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1718282424767959428?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1718282424767959428%7Ctwgr%5E09151321c7154d7b2f8870d73490426fba1cd73d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frantingly.com%2F
I had not seen that information before. Thank you for posting.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 01, 2023, 06:10:35 PM
https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1719857400306348078?s=20
Post by: Rush on November 01, 2023, 06:17:31 PM
A CT judge is throwing out the results of a Democrat mayoral primary due to ballot stuffing. Can you say 2000 Mules.
https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1719857400306348078?s=20
I was just now responding to that post.
Post by: Anthony on November 02, 2023, 12:46:13 AM
A CT judge is throwing out the results of a Democrat mayoral primary due to ballot stuffing. Can you say 2000 Mules.
https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1719857400306348078?s=20
These people are Fascists. They prove it every day.
Post by: Lucifer on November 02, 2023, 06:32:11 AM
The people are Fascists. They prove it every day.
(https://i.imgur.com/Goxw5Ll.png)
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2023, 10:05:04 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 09, 2023, 06:34:31 PM
https://x.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1722728364564271206?s=20
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2023, 06:46:56 PM
Wait, the lawyers quit......What does that mean? I don’t understand!! Is it good or bad?
https://x.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1722728364564271206?s=20
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 09, 2023, 10:03:49 PM
What does that mean? I don’t understand!! Is it good or bad?I don't think it signals anything either way, other than the defense lawyers don't see a way to stop the ballot inspections once the court case continues again. In the process of trying to stop a voter initiated inspection of ballots the case went all the way up to the state supreme court and the right to initiate such inspections was affirmed, making future ballot stuffing easier to detect. The case caused long-term damage to the bad guys, so that's good. (There needs to be sworn witnesses to election fraud of course to successfully sue for such inspections.)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 10, 2023, 06:40:52 AM
I don't think it signals anything either way, other than the defense lawyers don't see a way to stop the ballot inspections once the court case continues again. In the process of trying to stop a voter initiated inspection of ballots the case went all the way up to the state supreme court and the right to initiate such inspections was affirmed, making future ballot stuffing easier to detect. The case caused long-term damage to the bad guys, so that's good. (There needs to be sworn witnesses to election fraud of course to successfully sue for such inspections.)Except, it seems, the ballots in question can't be found.
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These 150,000 still secret 2020 unfolded mail ballots with the perfect ovals protected by court order for 3 years may have gone missing, and the county’s lawyers have just quit.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 10, 2023, 09:25:34 AM
Except, it seems, the ballots in question can't be found.I couldn't find anything to confirm that claim. This (https://www.patriotsentinel.com/news/breaking-evidence-missing-defense-lawyers-quitting-voterga-fulton-county-counterfeit-ballot-inspection-case-bombshell/article_b8c5dbd2-7f4f-11ee-ae13-cfafae048a59.html) story uses the phrase "...may have now gone missing." Notable is the lack of attribution - who reported they are missing?
VoterGA has previously reported that ballot images (not the paper ballots) have gone missing and that assertion does appear on the web.
If the paper ballots are missing then someone in the county is in serious legal peril because the court ordered them protected. Besides the advantage of now saying that the evidence must have been so damaging that it was destroyed.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 10, 2023, 10:37:25 AM
I couldn't find anything to confirm that claim. This (https://www.patriotsentinel.com/news/breaking-evidence-missing-defense-lawyers-quitting-voterga-fulton-county-counterfeit-ballot-inspection-case-bombshell/article_b8c5dbd2-7f4f-11ee-ae13-cfafae048a59.html) story uses the phrase "...may have now gone missing." Notable is the lack of attribution - who reported they are missing?Don't know Jim, time will tell the story.
VoterGA has previously reported that ballot images (not the paper ballots) have gone missing and that assertion does appear on the web.
If the paper ballots are missing then someone in the county is in serious legal peril because the court ordered them protected. Besides the advantage of now saying that the evidence must have been so damaging that it was destroyed.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 15, 2023, 08:05:32 PM
Don't know Jim, time will tell the story.The claim of missing (possibly destroyed) ballots is repeated in this video and noted as being speculation. The speculation is based on one theory that the lawyers know the evidence was illegally destroyed and don't want to be involved in a case they are sure to lose or otherwise face sanctions. A couple commenters make note of other possibilities. One claims that simply leaving the case wouldn't protect the lawyers if it can be shown they learned the evidence had been destroyed but failed to inform the court of that knowledge.
Oh yeah, the new lawyer has filed a motion disputing assignment to a different judge.
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2023, 08:11:32 AM
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November 25, 2023
Even Oliver Stone is starting to question the 2020 election
By Monica Showalter
Oliver Stone is a Hollywood leftist who has an odd way of being right at times.
His Academy Award-winning JFK was dismissed as a conspiracy theory.
Turns out he was likely closer to right all along -- as Tucker Carlson noted in one of this segments.
That's not the only one. His South of the Border documentary about Latin America's wave of elected leftist dictators was initially criticized as Chavista propaganda, a glossing over of some of the region's worst rulers ... except that if you watch the thing, which I did twice, you realize he did an extraordinary job of revealing these people as the unattractive pigs that they were. Sleazy, covetous, Imelda-like, sidelong, gangsterly ... he actually exposed them in all their glory in a way their worst critics couldn't. That was a useful record of the era.
He's criticized government bureaucracies' demonization of ivermectin and vaccine mandates which is credibility right there.
His criticism of the way the Vietnam War was run by vested interests and swamp bureaucrats was probably spot on, too.
So now he's dropped another truth bomb, or at least is circling around it.
According to RealClearPolitics, which showed a segment and transcript of Stone conversing with Bill Maher:
Some of the transcript (they go off on tangents) is here, emphasis mine:
MAHER: Well, I mean, [Trump] doesn't concede elections. You know, the elections only count if we win theory of government. Okay. Well, come on. You know, Trump has he still has not conceded the election. He has not conceded. He does not honor them. Okay.
STONE: I mean, do you know for a fact that he lost? I'm just curious.
MAHER: Okay. You're going to make me --
STONE: I just don't know all of the facts.
MAHER: Well I do. Is there a conspiracy theory that you don't believe?
STONE: Come on, Bill. You know I'm intelligent.
MAHER: Intelligent? Of course you are. But look, look, I've had many people sit here and I'd say the same thing to them. Like, the key to getting along in America is not getting into these tribal things. It's understanding that you can have somebody in your life who you go for A, B, C, and D, We are so aligned and the person is so smart and they really get it.
And then E each of you thinks the other one's crazy and there's a couple of those with us, but we got A, B, C, and D, and so we just.
OLIVER STONE: We'll start with that.
MAHER: Yes, that's got to be enough. You can't make people like agree with you on these things. And you're right when you --
STONE: I'm just asking you, I'm not an expert on the election. I don't go on. I'm not a political junkie. You are. And you follow it very closely. Okay.
MAHER: All right, then I'll give you the thumbnail sketch. They tried it in like 60 courts. It was laughed out of every court, including by Republican judges. Report The people who save this democracy were Republicans. Good Republicans. In states where Trump pressured them like the guy, the one he's on trial for in Georgia. Find me 11,000 votes. It's on tape.
A guy like that saying to him, sir, we just don't do that here. I voted for you. I'm a Republican, but we just don't do that. That's what saved us. And they were Republicans. So you don't take their word for it. I mean, it would.
STONE: I don't know. I mean, you went through the 2000 election. That was horrifying to me. What happened when the Supreme Court closed that down. What happened there? You know, the popular vote was --
MAHER: What should we do? Do we just keep counting votes forever? Or should we still be counting them now?
STONE: No. Count them correctly.
MAHER: The people who have testified that this was a fair and will [sic] run election. It's a who's who of people like Bill Barr. Mitch McConnell. You're talking about Liz Cheney. You're talking about dyed in the wool, serious conservative Republicans who went with Trump really further out than a lot of us thought they would go with a guy like McCain's not a war hero.
[...]
STONE: Well, I don't know the facts. And I think I would trust the accountants more than the politicians. And I'd like to know what the accountants, the guys who vote, who know the most about votes, who do the Electoral Commission's, you know. I can't take Biden's word for it on anything.
MAHER: It's not his word. It's the Electoral Commission. It's Trump's own election security guy who said this was the most fair, well-run election that we've had ever.
STONE: Really?
MAHER: Yes.
STONE: I don't know about that. Okay. I don't know about that.
MAHER: Well, I mean, if there's nothing that can be said or argued that would convince you --
STONE: You, I think it would shock people --
MAHER: Then they called it --
STONE: -- Joe [Biden] got so many got so many votes. You know, that was what was shocking, that he did so well compared to what he was expected to do --
MAHER: Right.
STONE: -- because we believed all the East Coast media --
That's the thinking of an independent thinker, someone who asks again and again what we really know from hard knowledge and what we really know only from the press.
It's startling in its candor, not a full-blown admission of Trump support, but a person who can critically think and use his own knowledge to reason out strange things that have happened since. He cites the bad media treatment of Pete Rose as his theory on why people stick close to Trump, and his experience with the 2000 election, which he seems to think as stolen, as something that leaves the realm of stolen elections a distinct possibility since he believes it has happened before.
His views are not all that 'conspiratorial' as Maher seemed to want to dismiss them as. Polls show that a majority of Republicans believe the elections these days do have fraud -- as do a sizable minority of Democrats. They didn't get into it in the conversation, but many Democrats think our elections are compromised by cheating.
Stone stood his ground and didn't back away from the questions that Maher had no serious answers to -- claiming that the press, numerous neverTrumps and many neverTrump judges had reported the election as free and fair. Just because someone says so does not make it so, and that was why Maher kept misfiring at Stone and Stone held his ground. Stone also suggested that there were a lot of liars out there -- from the COVID shambles around vaccines and the like, to Joe Biden himself, whom he couldn't bring himself to believe a word he said.
One can only hope that Stone looks at this matter ever more closely. He's onto something. He's sniffing, he's asking questions and he might come up with a tremendous new work from it. Once again, he could be confoundingly correct.
Post by: Number7 on November 27, 2023, 08:22:36 AM
Then I remember that he was challenged to name *all* of joe biden's accomplishments and disappeared.
One would think the senile imposter and his record of raising interest rates, violent crime, prices, unemployment, and quality of life should speak for itself, not to mention his steller achievements with regard to the fake ass war in ukraine, and his response to the terrorist attack in Israel...
steingar should be shouting senile joe's track record instead of the occassional drive by bullshit attacking once and soon-to-be again, PRESIDENT Trump, but he never has offered a defense of commie joe and his record.
Post by: Rush on November 27, 2023, 10:28:44 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2023, 11:13:04 AM
Bill Maher can also be a critical thinker at times. I’m surprised he swallows the “most secure election of all time” nonsense. He’s smarter than that, but suffers a severe case of TDS.
They have to keep repeating it. If it ever gets verified, the ramifications will become a tsunami. First, both major parties will be destroyed forever.
Second, election laws will be tightened with zero loopholes (think paper ballots and voter id, with secured vote counting). Third, every law signed by the imposter will be invalidated, every executive order litigated.
Fourth, every elected representative that has taken an oath to uphold the constitution (all of them) will come under severe scrutiny for voting to certify an illegitimate election.
IMO if ever proven (we all know it was stolen) we would see a movement towards a Article V Convention, with a host of amendments such as balanced budget, term limits and even more election control.
Just like the JFK assassination, the government will hide and conceal the 2020 theft for decades to come.
Finally, this is another reason I have doubts Trump will be the nominee in 2024. They know he will work to uncover the lies and expose them. During his administration JFK told several administration officials "I will splinter the CIA into a million pieces and scatter them into the wind", and we know how they dealt with that.
Post by: Rush on November 27, 2023, 11:56:27 AM
They have to keep repeating it. If it ever gets verified, the ramifications will become a tsunami. First, both major parties will be destroyed forever.
Second, election laws will be tightened with zero loopholes (think paper ballots and voter id, with secured vote counting). Third, every law signed by the imposter will be invalidated, every executive order litigated.
Fourth, every elected representative that has taken an oath to uphold the constitution (all of them) will come under severe scrutiny for voting to certify an illegitimate election.
IMO if ever proven (we all know it was stolen) we would see a movement towards a Article V Convention, with a host of amendments such as balanced budget, term limits and even more election control.
Just like the JFK assassination, the government will hide and conceal the 2020 theft for decades to come.
Finally, this is another reason I have doubts Trump will be the nominee in 2024. They know he will work to uncover the lies and expose them. During his administration JFK told several administration officials "I will splinter the CIA into a million pieces and scatter them into the wind", and we know how they dealt with that.
ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN! (The bold part.)
I fully expect an assassination attempt if all else fails. The RNC might first try to keep Trump from being the nominee. The corrupt Dems are already trying to get him off the ballot in key states and jail him. None of that will work. They will try to kill him.
Post by: Little Joe on November 27, 2023, 12:44:06 PM
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IMO if ever proven (we all know it was stolen) we would see a movement towards a Article V Convention, with a host of amendments such as balanced budget, term limits and even more election control.I suspect what we would actually get from a CoS is abortion on demand, stricter gun control and illegal alien voting rights.
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2023, 03:36:23 PM
I suspect what we would actually get from a CoS is abortion on demand, stricter gun control and illegal alien voting rights.
Please go read on how a Convention of States actually works.
Post by: Little Joe on November 27, 2023, 05:31:26 PM
Please go read on how a Convention of States actually works.You have said that before.
What I read is that there are no rules about how it actually works.
If that is incorrect, I am willing to listen to your opinion of how it actually works.
Why do you think a CoS will magically give you everything you want?
It takes 34 states to vote to convene a CoS. Currently, there are 4 issues that 28 states have separately signed on to, but not all 28 states have signed on to the same issues.
I don't understand why you think a CoS will deliver everything you want. I admit that maybe I am ignorant, so educate me.
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2023, 05:54:18 PM
You have said that before.
What I read is that there are no rules about how it actually works.
If that is incorrect, I am willing to listen to your opinion of how it actually works.
Why do you think a CoS will magically give you everything you want?
It takes 34 states to vote to convene a CoS. Currently, there are 4 issues that 28 states have separately signed on to, but not all 28 states have signed on to the same issues.
I don't understand why you think a CoS will deliver everything you want. I admit that maybe I am ignorant, so educate me.
Please show me where I wrote it would deliver everything I want.
And no, I'm not going to take the time to write a column to "educate" you. Learn to do your own research.
Post by: Little Joe on November 27, 2023, 06:09:17 PM
Please show me where I wrote it would deliver everything I want.That's what I expected.
And no, I'm not going to take the time to write a column to "educate" you. Learn to do your own research.
You won't tell me where I'm wrong because I'm not.
Post by: Mase on November 27, 2023, 06:20:13 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 27, 2023, 06:22:15 PM
That's what I expected.
You won't tell me where I'm wrong because I'm not.
You have a minimal understanding of the subject. It goes a lot further in-depth than you understand. Your reasoning on it is the same tripe people uneducated on the subject babble about when the subject is brought up.
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 27, 2023, 07:25:17 PM
What I read is that there are no rules about how it actually works.I've seen that claim too. However, this describes historical precedent from convention of states that preceded the drafting of the constitution:
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/899/attachments/original/1423177477/Kelly__Single_Subject_Convention.pdf?1423177477 (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/899/attachments/original/1423177477/Kelly__Single_Subject_Convention.pdf?1423177477)
Found via this site, which has a FAQ:
https://conventionofstates.com/frequently-asked-questions/ (https://conventionofstates.com/frequently-asked-questions/)
Post by: Little Joe on November 28, 2023, 04:21:29 AM
I've seen that claim too. However, this describes historical precedent from convention of states that preceded the drafting of the constitution:Thanks Jim. That wasn't so hard, was it?
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/899/attachments/original/1423177477/Kelly__Single_Subject_Convention.pdf?1423177477 (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/899/attachments/original/1423177477/Kelly__Single_Subject_Convention.pdf?1423177477)
Found via this site, which has a FAQ:
https://conventionofstates.com/frequently-asked-questions/ (https://conventionofstates.com/frequently-asked-questions/)
I admit my understanding of a CoS is/was a little lacking, but that is largely because my research turned up so many contradictory articles.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 28, 2023, 06:55:28 AM
I've seen that claim too. However, this describes historical precedent from convention of states that preceded the drafting of the constitution:That is pretty darn informative and clear. Sadly, I’m trying to think of 34 states that would have the consensus and chutzpah to do that. If it would require ballots, I’m not hopeful.
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/899/attachments/original/1423177477/Kelly__Single_Subject_Convention.pdf?1423177477 (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/conventionofstates/pages/899/attachments/original/1423177477/Kelly__Single_Subject_Convention.pdf?1423177477)
Found via this site, which has a FAQ:
https://conventionofstates.com/frequently-asked-questions/ (https://conventionofstates.com/frequently-asked-questions/)
Post by: nddons on November 28, 2023, 08:28:50 AM
That is pretty darn informative and clear. Sadly, I’m trying to think of 34 states that would have the consensus and chutzpah to do that. If it would require ballots, I’m not hopeful.This is the only way to fix this country try. The problem is getting to the convention to begin with.
My state Senator Kapenga lead the charge a few years ago in Wisconsin. The state legislature passed a resolution to participate for purposes of a balanced budget amendment but not other critical things like term limits.
I’m hopeful that once enough states agree to convene a convention, more will come on board for the critical issues.
One thing it is NOT is a free-for-all, or as the John Birch Society calls it, a runaway convention.
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2023, 08:55:04 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 28, 2023, 09:20:26 AM
It sounds like it still depends on Congress. Congress has to call it?But it was designed as an option when Congress is broken!!! And we are there!!!
Post by: Rush on November 28, 2023, 04:10:27 PM
But it was designed as an option when Congress is broken!!! And we are there!!!
You would think Congress would be left out of the loop in that case.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 02, 2024, 08:11:46 PM
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True the Vote Defeats Fair Fight, Stacey Abrams, Marc Elias, and the Biden Department of Justice in Landmark Election Case in Georgia Federal Court
Post by: Number7 on January 02, 2024, 08:41:49 PM
Fuck the left, fuck biden, fuck the fucking scumbags at the fbi and doj, and fuck the democrats.
Post by: Anthony on January 03, 2024, 04:32:20 AM
Imagine… having to go to court for PERMISSION to demand safe, honest, and legal elections.
Fuck the left, fuck biden, fuck the fucking scumbags at the fbi and doj, and fuck the democrats.
This territory has been taken over by elite Fascists that want total control and subjugation of all of us purely for their personal benefit. Stacey Abrams and those like her deserve the worst.
Post by: Rush on January 03, 2024, 05:15:25 AM
https://newsletter.truethevote.org/p/true-vote-defeats-fair-fight-stacy-abrams-marc-elias-biden-department-justice-landmark-election-case
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A federal court in the Northern District of Georgia today affirmed that citizens have the right to lawfully petition their government in support of election integrity without fear of persecution or prosecution.
So shouldn’t this ruling immediately result in the RICO case against trump etc. being dropped?
Doesn’t this affirm that it’s perfectly legal, and not “insurrection” to question election results?
Post by: Lucifer on January 03, 2024, 06:36:46 AM
So shouldn’t this ruling immediately result in the RICO case against trump etc. being dropped?
Doesn’t this affirm that it’s perfectly legal, and not “insurrection” to question election results?
It should, but it won't.
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2024, 02:30:42 PM
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An expert in election data asserts that almost 35,000 Georgia voters in 2020 cast ballots from the wrong jurisdictions, but Georgia’s top election official hasn’t responded to his request for an investigation.
Mark Davis, president of Georgia-based Data Productions Inc., has pushed for Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s office to investigate his data since May 2021. Davis says he inquired again earlier this month after finding evidence of the same problems in Georgia’s 2021 and 2022 elections.
“The same thing is going to happen again in 2024,” Davis, who earlier this year scored a legal victory over the Stacey Abrams-founded group Fair Fight Action– told The Daily Signal. “I first brought this up to the State Elections Board in 2002. You can’t fix a problem if you don’t admit you have a problem.”
“The secretary of state doesn’t want to address this because it happened on his watch,” he said of Raffensperger. “I don’t know why he’s being like that. It’s happened on everyone’s watch.”
Georgia is expected to be among the most closely contested states in the 2024 presidential election. In 2020, Joe Biden carried the state over Donald Trump by 11,000 votes.
Post by: Rush on February 12, 2024, 03:18:11 PM
https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/02/11/data-specialist-presses-georgia-look-voters-cast-ballots-wrong-jurisdictions/
That state was stolen as was AZ and PA for sure.
Post by: Lucifer on February 12, 2024, 03:24:01 PM
The communist have told us 2020 was the most secure election ever.
This November we will be told that the election was stolen, and fraud claims everywhere. The democrat lawyers will file lawsuit after lawsuit in an attempt to stop state certifications. But this time, the courts will want to hear it.
We will see the twelve amendment take place.
Post by: Anthony on February 13, 2024, 03:00:14 AM
That state was stolen as was AZ and PA for sure.
And Stacey Abrams still lost!!!
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 29, 2024, 08:21:36 PM
https://patriot.online/notice/AfLqvtimEDDVbcW7G4 (https://patriot.online/notice/AfLqvtimEDDVbcW7G4)
Came from this tweet on X: https://x.com/annvandersteel/status/1763259723292279262?s=20
Post by: Rush on February 29, 2024, 08:27:01 PM
Gotta admit, I'm not really sure what this means. Someone smarter than me can explain?
https://patriot.online/notice/AfLqvtimEDDVbcW7G4 (https://patriot.online/notice/AfLqvtimEDDVbcW7G4)
Came from this tweet on X: https://x.com/annvandersteel/status/1763259723292279262?s=20
Maybe this will help, but I don’t have time to read it tonight, I am crashing fast.
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017c-e374-da3d-a77f-ff7f01170000
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2024, 05:55:23 AM
Gotta admit, I'm not really sure what this means. Someone smarter than me can explain?
https://patriot.online/notice/AfLqvtimEDDVbcW7G4 (https://patriot.online/notice/AfLqvtimEDDVbcW7G4)
Came from this tweet on X: https://x.com/annvandersteel/status/1763259723292279262?s=20
So far I can’t find what it means.
The guy who was in charge of storing, testing and programming the vote machines in Delaware Cty, PA was suing Trump, etc. for defamation because two Republican poll workers made a scene accusing him of tampering with the vote machines to add 50,000 Biden votes, when they supposedly “knew” the guy had no ability to do that. (The complaint doesn’t explain how they could have known that, or why he couldn’t tamper with the vote count if he was in charge of programming the machines in the first place.)
It seems to me that what should settle this case would be a complete forensic examination of the machines to determine if they had indeed been tampered with but I haven’t found yet whether any attempt to do that was carried out.
It seems the plaintiffs decided to drop the case before it was heard. Possibly because they were made aware of evidence the defendants were going to bring? The tweets imply this is proof that fraud happened but I haven’t yet seen where this is actually stated, nor why the case was dropped.
And all of the above is my take from a brief search and I could have got something wrong.
Edit: Maybe there was a settlement? If so, that’s not really a win at all. Need more info.