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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on November 21, 2020, 03:55:16 PM
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So... is the corrupt-to-crats election stealing scam is collapsing, what is the proper criminal charge and punishment for it?
Some say it is an act of treason. Others spall it a criminal conspiracy. Some call for executions, while others want it swept under the rug in the name of 'unity.'
What do you think?
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Facing life in prison would cause a lot of corrupt-to-crats to roll over and testify against anyone and everyone.
Facing the total surrender of personal assets would be a big motivator to tell the truth.
Contemplating death row would tend to make one's mind right.
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Do you really believe anything meaningful will come of this?
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I don't
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My choice isn’t listed. Unless by humane execution you mean firing squad.
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Thousand paper cuts on your genitalia, then hours of soaking in lemon juice.
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Thousand paper cuts on your genitalia, then hours of soaking in lemon juice.
Hahahahaha, this post made my day.
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How about sharing a small prison cell with Hillary Clinton............for life.
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How about sharing a small prison cell with Hillary Clinton............for life.
That would be cruel AND unusual punishment.
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How about sharing a small prison cell with Hillary Clinton............for life.
My husband said share a cell with Nancy Pelosi.
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How about sharing a small prison cell with Hillary Clinton............for life.
Her life or yours? It could be short either way.
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ammo is pretty scarce already... if you haven't already laid in a good supply, you are pretty much SOL.
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There’s a toilet paper/paper towel shortage again too. I don’t know if it’s because people expect another lockdown, or if they’re getting ready for civil war.
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ammo is pretty scarce already... if you haven't already laid in a good supply, you are pretty much SOL.
Not if you make it yourself and have a nice stockpile of components. ;D
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There’s a toilet paper/paper towel shortage again too. I don’t know if it’s because people expect another lockdown, or if they’re getting ready for civil war.
The MEDIA and Dems are pushing "a second wave of Covid" and more lockdowns and illegal restrictions. Once Biden, errr Harrris, is in office they will be lifted. Then we can expect the Green New Deal and Systemic Racism to be the continued, but pushed topics of the MEDIA and their Lemmings.
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People buy TP and paper towels and then sell it online for a profit.
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Not if you make it yourself and have a nice stockpile of components. ;D
the components are also scarce.
And you can never have a big enough "stockpile"
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the components are also scarce.
And you can never have a big enough "stockpile"
Well, I'm not a hoarder but keep a good amount of ammo and components on hand. It's usually primers that are the scarcest.
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Well, I'm not a hoarder but keep a good amount of ammo and components on hand. It's usually primers that are the scarcest.
" It's usually primers that are the scarcest. " - yeah, scarcest. primers are pretty much out-of-stock online (with no option to backorder)... so, yeah, scarcest.
I kind of have to chuckle... it won't do any good to scream and shout...
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Have you heard the Biden wants tax each magazine that holds over ten rounds at $250 each and you will be required to register them.
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the components are also scarce.
And you can never have a big enough "stockpile"
The only time you have too much ammo is when your house is on fire.
My wife has briefed the local fire department.
Not kidding.
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Have you heard the Biden wants tax each magazine that holds over ten rounds at $250 each and you will be required to register them.
F*ckers.
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Have you heard the Biden wants tax each magazine that holds over ten rounds at $250 each and you will be required to register them.
The last king who wanted to do something like that wound up with a revolt.
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The last king who wanted to do something like that wound up with a revolt.
That revolt, which we call the American Revolution was fought by an ill equipped army of volunteers with little to no financing. Also, contrary to popular belief, the revolution was not a unified event supported by all the citizens of the colonies. There was major opposition by colonist who didn't want a confrontation with England and were happy to live under tyranny to "get along".
The revolution almost failed several times, but a small group of men were determined to live in freedom and pushed it along, and fought and died for it.
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That revolt, which we call the American Revolution was fought by an ill equipped army of volunteers with little to no financing. Also, contrary to popular belief, the revolution was not a unified event supported by all the citizens of the colonies. There was major opposition by colonist who didn't want a confrontation with England and were happy to live under tyranny to "get along".
The revolution almost failed several times, but a small group of men were determined to live in freedom and pushed it along, and fought and died for it.
Only 1/3 of U.S. based British Subjects (Colonists) supported the American Revolution. 1/3 were against it and 1/3 were neutral. But, remember the French did help us also which convincee the British we were too much trouble to continue the war. Along with the embarrassment and surrender of General (Lord) Cornwallis of course.
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The only time you have too much ammo is when your house is on fire.
My wife has briefed the local fire department.
Not kidding.
I've talked to a local fire department inspector about such things. He talked about how they are listening for things like cartridges going pop.
Have you seen the SAAMI video demonstrating what happens to ammunition is a fire? Very interesting. spoiler alert: it's not at all like protrayed in the movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c
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When I was a teenager, the shed two doors down caught fire. The owner stored .22 and .45 shells there and the fire dept just took a couple of steps back and kept spraying water. It's not an explosive thing, but you still don't want to be up next to them.
Story from a warehouse of a bullet manufacturer - a dock worker was shrink wrapping pallets of bullets. To do this, there's a 40"x48" rectangle painted on the floor to outline where the pallet goes. You then wrap the pallet, lower the heat hood over it and the heat shrinks the plastic to hold all the cases in place. Well this one guy got the pallet off center and when the heat hood came down it set the plastic and the box on fire. The fire alarm was hit and most people ran for the bunkers on the other side of the road - not because of the pallet, but because of the loose gunpowder that inevitably hangs around. The guy who started the fire got a visit from the Good Idea Fairy and lifted the hood off to use a fire extinguisher. He was maybe 2 ft away and promptly got shot in the knee. If the hood had been left down, oxygen would have been starved and the fire woudl have gone out. The guy who started it was the only injury.
Don't be close - give it 10-15' and if you can shield yourself, you're golden.
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When I was a teenager, the shed two doors down caught fire. The owner stored .22 and .45 shells there and the fire dept just took a couple of steps back and kept spraying water. It's not an explosive thing, but you still don't want to be up next to them.
Story from a warehouse of a bullet manufacturer - a dock worker was shrink wrapping pallets of bullets. To do this, there's a 40"x48" rectangle painted on the floor to outline where the pallet goes. You then wrap the pallet, lower the heat hood over it and the heat shrinks the plastic to hold all the cases in place. Well this one guy got the pallet off center and when the heat hood came down it set the plastic and the box on fire. The fire alarm was hit and most people ran for the bunkers on the other side of the road - not because of the pallet, but because of the loose gunpowder that inevitably hangs around. The guy who started the fire got a visit from the Good Idea Fairy and lifted the hood off to use a fire extinguisher. He was maybe 2 ft away and promptly got shot in the knee. If the hood had been left down, oxygen would have been starved and the fire woudl have gone out. The guy who started it was the only injury.
Don't be close - give it 10-15' and if you can shield yourself, you're golden.
Bullets fired themselves off?
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One of the warehouses in a corporate center in a commercial real estate portfolio I managed caught fire. It was a paint warehouse and the paint cans would cook off and explode like sky rockets all night. They made pretty colors. :)
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When I was a teenager, the shed two doors down caught fire. The owner stored .22 and .45 shells there and the fire dept just took a couple of steps back and kept spraying water. It's not an explosive thing, but you still don't want to be up next to them.
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normal turnout gear for the firefighter should provide sufficient protection from burning cartridges. The rounds don't explode. (watch the saami video)
now, containers of smokeless powder is a completely different story...
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Bullets fired themselves off?
Cooked off in a fire. If you're right next to it, say with a fire extinguisher in hand trying to fix your mistake, you can get hurt.
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Cooked off in a fire. If you're right next to it, say with a fire extinguisher in hand trying to fix your mistake, you can get hurt.
A bullet? Just a bullet? Without the case, powder and primer?
I’m sorry, I’m pulling your leg. ;D
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A bullet? Just a bullet? Without the case, powder and primer?
I’m sorry, I’m pulling your leg. ;D
You know your cartridge components. ;D
Shell casings are reusable, and can be found on the ground for free at most public ranges and gun clubs. You can make your own bullets from melting lead wheel weights and other lead items. You can even make your own gun powder, although today's modern smokeless powder is much better than what you and I could make. The Primers are the linchpin. I guess you could make them if you had the right stuff, but it would be difficult.
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Local store has plenty of shotgun and large rifle magnum primers, even has a good variety of powder still. Everything else, not so much. Hopefully after deer gun next week, some stuff will get back in stock.
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Considering how fast the FBI dispatched multiple agents to GA to investigate the "noose" found in Bubba Wallace's garage (which was in fact a door pull that's been there for a decade), nothing here shocks me.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/trump-campaign-advisor-doj-asleep-wheel-amid-systemic-election-fraud
The FEC Chairman has even stated publicly that there is evidence of massive fraud. Why has he not requested a formal complaint be filed with the DoJ? Or the Senate Republicans? Or the House Republicans?
Once this is over, it's time to blow up the RNC and reduce them to a sub libertarian party.
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Considering how fast the FBI dispatched multiple agents to GA to investigate the "noose" found in Bubba Wallace's garage (which was in fact a door pull that's been there for a decade), nothing here shocks me.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/trump-campaign-advisor-doj-asleep-wheel-amid-systemic-election-fraud
The FEC Chairman has even stated publicly that there is evidence of massive fraud. Why has he not requested a formal complaint be filed with the DoJ? Or the Senate Republicans? Or the House Republicans?
Once this is over, it's time to blow up the RNC and reduce them to a sub libertarian party.
Lucifer, I’m 100% with you. Fuck the Republicans. This is Trump’s Party now. The rank and file Republican politicians can kiss my ass.
The next three years will be interesting.
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Lucifer, I’m 100% with you. Fuck the Republicans. This is Trump’s Party now. The rank and file Republican politicians can kiss my ass.
The next three years will be interesting.
The Republicans are almost as corrupt as the Democrats. The go along to get along Party to grow the budget, the MIC, their piece of the pie and their contributions from LOBBYISTS. I am with all of you F*ck them.
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The Republicans are almost as corrupt as the Democrats. The go along to get along Party to grow the budget, the MIC, their piece of the pie and their contributions from LOBBYISTS. I am with all of you Fuck them.
Me too. I’m now party Trump. F the Republicans. I’m not even a libertarian now.
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And me too. I go where Trump goes. A pro-America party free of embedded corruption.
My R Congressman just sent out his survey for what issues are important to me in 2021. Election security is not on the list.
I wrote him last week about the stolen election, and he replied “If President Trump thinks he can prove his case, he has the right to try to do so.”
Swamp.
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And me too. I go where Trump goes. A pro-America party free of embedded corruption.
My R Congressman just sent out his survey for what issues are important to me in 2021. Election security is not on the list.
I wrote him last week about the stolen election, and he replied “If President Trump thinks he can prove his case, he has the right to try to do so.”
Swamp.
Yep. They are just as bad because they lie and pretend to be what we want by sometimes saying the right things. Liars all.
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I sent a letter to my R congressman saying he better do all he can to ensure Trump is reinaugurated or I will no longer vote for any Republican.
Election integrity is now my single vote issue.
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he replied “If President Trump thinks he can prove his case, he has the right to try to do so.”
Swamp.
How is that swamp?
It is true. If the president believes he can prove something, he has the right to try. But they're not publishing evidence of it, they're publishing accusations which will not convict anyone in court. They certainly won't get an election overturned.
Does it really change anything? It's not like you're going to start voting Democrat, so whoever the Republicans choose will be the choice. Or if there is actually a 3rd party, the Democrats will win everything against a split Republican vote.
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So you truly believe that 80M people actually voted for Biden. How ,any of Trump's voters do you believe held their nose to vote for him?
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How is that swamp?
It’s distancing himself from the fight, of course. And condescending. It’s a horrible response.
It is true. If the president believes he can prove something, he has the right to try. But they're not publishing evidence of it, they're publishing accusations which will not convict anyone in court. They certainly won't get an election overturned.
And the reasons they aren’t publishing some of the evidence are very clear. They have Dominion whistleblowers that will be threatened with their jobs and lives if their identity became known, or do you think the lawyers are lying? Or are the Dominion employees lying? Why the hell would a Dominion employee offer to testify to a lie putting his job and the safety of his family in jeopardy? These are brave but frightened people coming forward to do what’s right. But because the details aren’t all being released right now you doubt evidence exists?
Other evidence is available and a matter of public record, but the news isn’t reporting it, and the news is hammering the message that there’s no evidence. You’re making me think you’re watching mainstream news. Stop it. It’s toxic poison. ;D
As for getting an election overturned, you once again are listening to the news. No one has yet been elected. Just because Fox News and the AP called it for Biden does not make it true. Just because vote counters claim Biden got more votes doesn’t make it true. You and I do not elect the president, the EC does and it hasn’t met yet.
If Trump wins this, your attitude of “Trump overturned a Biden win” legitimizes a lie, and will be the cause of massive violence from the left side of an idiot general public.
Does it really change anything? It's not like you're going to start voting Democrat, so whoever the Republicans choose will be the choice. Or if there is actually a 3rd party, the Democrats will win everything against a split Republican vote.
You aren’t paying attention. This will not be a third party like the Libertarian or the Green. This will be like 1860 when today’s Republican Party formed out of the corpse of the fractured Whig, “walkaway” Democrats (they had those back then too) and people from the Free-Soil party (analogous to today’s Libertarian). Trump is a galvanizing force, drawing from all of those. This third party won’t be impotent like our current third parties.
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Thanks for stating it so clearly in reply to bflynn, Rush.
The November 3 (and for years leading up to it) coup attempt has laid bare the bright demarcation lines between the corrupt and the integrous.
Those lining up behind “Biden won” are showing their acceptance of corruption, and those calling out the coup are standing for the republic, the people, and liberty.
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And me too. I go where Trump goes. A pro-America party free of embedded corruption.
My R Congressman just sent out his survey for what issues are important to me in 2021. Election security is not on the list.
I wrote him last week about the stolen election, and he replied “If President Trump thinks he can prove his case, he has the right to try to do so.”
Swamp.
Primary that prick out.
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It is true. If the president believes he can prove something, he has the right to try. But they're not publishing evidence of it, they're publishing accusations which will not convict anyone in court. They certainly won't get an election overturned.
Where does it state that evidence must be "published" before going to a complaint? Seriously?
Complaint's have been filed. Yes, "accusations" are a part of the complaint.
The judge will read the complaints, then more than likely have an evidentiary hearing if he wants to look a bit closer. Then each party will enter the discovery phase, which allows for depositions and interrogatories. When it goes to trial both parties can present evidence and cross examine evidence before the judge.
It's the judge (or justices) that count. NOWHERE is it written that evidence must be published for public consumption via the media. In fact, the plaintiff can request pre trial that the judge not release evidence due to the sensitive nature or safety of the witnesses. Again, the media does not have a right to the evidence pre trial.
Right now the ignorant MSM is clinging to the very statement you keep making about "not publishing evidence" because they know most people are not aware of court procedures. To the uninformed it sounds convincing and drives a narrative.
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Other evidence is available and a matter of public record, but the news isn’t reporting it, and the news is hammering the message that there’s no evidence. You’re making me think you’re watching mainstream news.
What is out there is very disturbing. Start with PA, and by state records, 1.8 million mail in ballots were requested, but, again by state records, 2.6 million were returned and counted. MSM won't touch that one.
Look at all the statistical and analytical analysis that has already come out on voting. Pages of it. And highly regarded people in their field publicly stating that these results are impossible to achieve. MSM won't touch that.
And then the forensic computer experts that have examined vote data in real time and have determined that the machines were counting votes five times faster than the speed of the machine. Again, MSM won't touch that.
And on and on.............
As for getting an election overturned, you once again are listening to the news. No one has yet been elected. Just because Fox News and the AP called it for Biden does not make it true. Just because vote counters claim Biden got more votes doesn’t make it true. You and I do not elect the president, the EC does and it hasn’t met yet.
The MSM and the dims are setting up the narrative when this goes south on them. Remember Biden pledging to Chris Wallace he would not claim victory until votes were certified?
But the MSM and the dims have created this narrative that it's all over, and how Trump is "stealing the election". The low information public is lapping it up like a kitten in front of a cream bowl.
If Trump wins this, your attitude of “Trump overturned a Biden win” legitimizes a lie, and will be the cause of massive violence from the left side of an idiot general public.
This is the goal.
You aren’t paying attention. This will not be a third party like the Libertarian or the Green. This will be like 1860 when today’s Republican Party formed out of the corpse of the fractured Whig, “walkaway” Democrats (they had those back then too) and people from the Free-Soil party (analogous to today’s Libertarian). Trump is a galvanizing force, drawing from all of those. This third party won’t be impotent like our current third parties.
Bingo.
The RNC is a dead man walking at this point. The establishment republicans know this, thus why they are all in on a Biden presidency.
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Since court procedures obviously mean nothing now ::) I have an idea!
Let's force Trump's attorneys to publish all the evidence on a website platformed by Google, and then allow CNN to hold a townhall type TV event and feature Judge Emmett Sullivan to preside. Place Trump attorneys on one side and MSM journalist on the other.
Oh, and be sure to have the ability to turn off the mic on either party (wink, wink).
Then we'll have all the evidence presented and let the audience decide (and make sure the audience is properly "weighted" 95% democrat).
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More "accusations"................. ::)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/historically-strange-spike-in-incomplete-nevada-voter-files-casinos-as-home
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In 2008, BHO stated:
Barack Obama: Well, I think we have to figure out whether this is fraud proof. I mean, Oregon has a terrific mail-in system but they’ve already scanned everyone’ signature whose registered to vote so that they can check to make sure that in fact the right people are voting.
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More "non evidence"
https://epochtimes.today/thousands-in-georgia-registered-at-postal-commercial-addresses-portraying-them-as-residences-researcher-says/
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I keep hearing this claim of more ail in ballots being turned in in PA than were requested. Is there proof of that on a PA website somewhere, as I also see a lot posting saying that is not true.
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I keep hearing this claim of more ail in ballots being turned in in PA than were requested. Is there proof of that on a PA website somewhere, as I also see a lot posting saying that is not true.
(can't resist) think 1984
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I keep hearing this claim of more ail in ballots being turned in in PA than were requested. Is there proof of that on a PA website somewhere, as I also see a lot posting saying that is not true.
I think (but not sure) I heard Giuliani say that they took the number of ballots returned off the website. He said that about something and asked if anyone had saved the page. Without going back through the 3 1/2 hour hearing I can’t say for sure if it was the PA mail ins he was talking about.
But no doubt if these election boards cheated they’re all scrambling now to scrub websites of facts.
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I keep hearing this claim of more ail in ballots being turned in in PA than were requested. Is there proof of that on a PA website somewhere, as I also see a lot posting saying that is not true.
President's lawyers have it. The PA state office took the information down and won't answer as to why, or anything about it.
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Where does it state that evidence must be "published" before going to a complaint?
It doesn't. Duh???
But do you really think that if they had hard evidence that they wouldn't have it all over the place for people to see? Trump would have had a dozen press conferences already explaining it to people because that's how he turns back the election.
They've got nothing except people making accusations and that isn't proof.
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It doesn't. Duh???
But do you really think that if they had hard evidence that they wouldn't have it all over the place for people to see? Trump would have had a dozen press conferences already explaining it to people because that's how he turns back the election.
They've got nothing except people making accusations and that isn't proof.
So instead of going through a legal process of the courts you are insisting on trying this in the court of public opinion? Right.
You are intentional ignoring the evidence that is already out there, but I’m not surprised, so is the MSM and the dims.
Here’s a tidbit for you. The allegations have been made. The plaintiffs will submit the evidence in a court of law and make their arguments. But the defendants must also make an argument of why the evidence doesn’t apply or show fraud. The burden of proof will go against the defendants more than the plaintiffs.
The lawyers for the plaintiff all have stellar legal backgrounds and are well known in the legal community for not making allegations without factual evidence. So the defense has an uphill, if not vertical ascent to disprove the allegations. Remember, it only takes a preponderance of the evidence by the judge to prevail.
The PA case is going to the SC. Given that the plaintiff has the constitution on their side, even Dershowitz and Turkey have said they will prevail.
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Do we really believe the SC is going to set aside an election?
A hundred years ago, perhaps. In today's world, not going to happen. We are on the road to banana republic with no turning around at this point in time. Obama and his group did a great job at infesting the important departments of government.
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https://noqreport.com/2020/11/27/as-pennsylvania-legislature-files-election-challenge-senator-doug-mastriano-shows-incontrovertible-evidence-of-massive-voter-fraud/
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Do we really believe the SC is going to set aside an election?
A hundred years ago, perhaps. In today's world, not going to happen. We are on the road to banana republic with no turning around at this point in time. Obama and his group did a great job at infesting the important departments of government.
I don’t believe anyone is expecting the SC to “set aside” an election. What is being looked for is the SC to make a decision on the constitutionality of how a state followed the constitution.
In the PA case, the state SC and the governor ignored the constitution by modifying the state election laws without going through the legislature. They in fact wrote a new law, which they have zero authority to do.
The SC needs to point that out, and require the state to follow the election laws as written. Now the PA legislature needs to figure out how to unscrew the mess the governor made along with the SC. They could go back, audit the votes and throw out all illegal votes. If that doesn’t or can’t work, then the legislature can either declare their election void, and not seat electors or determine a winner and assign the electors.
IMO I still believe this election will be decided in the House of Representatives.
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It’s a miracle!!!!!
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/23/5-more-ways-joe-biden-magically-outperformed-election-norms/
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This reinforces the SC argument forthcoming.
Remember, the SC argument is not of fraud, but of how the state of PA violated the constitution.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-second-judge-upholds-halt-to-pennsylvania-certification/
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So instead of going through a legal process of the courts you are insisting on trying this in the court of public opinion? Right.
No. You do both. If there was evidence, they would also be publishing it it to gain support because winning public support is at least as important as winning the court case. There isn’t and that is telling of the outcome of the legal case.
I think in your anger and grief, you’re projecting. It might be more successful of you stopped trying to set up straw men because you don’t like the facts I’m pointing out.
The only case I’ve heard with any merit is the PA procedural case over absentee voting expansion. The PA gov screwed the pooch on this one, but what is the relief?
See how that works? I agree that PA is a mess and probably unable to certify who really won. That is public opinion AND courts.
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No. You do both. If there was evidence, they would also be publishing it it to gain support because winning public support is at least as important as winning the court case. There isn’t and that is telling of the outcome of the legal case.
I think in your anger and grief, you’re projecting. It might be more successful of you stopped trying to set up straw men because you don’t like the facts I’m pointing out.
The only case I’ve heard with any merit is the PA procedural case over absentee voting expansion. The PA gov screwed the pooch on this one, but what is the relief?
See how that works? I agree that PA is a mess and probably unable to certify who really won. That is public opinion AND courts.
The dims want this fought in the court of public opinion because they have the machine of the MSM to carry them through. A “no lose” fight.
Plus, in the court of public opinion it doesn’t carry the weight of law. Using the actual legal system they can actually lose. And to add to that, they (the dims) know they are on the losing side of the argument since now the burden of proof shifts to them. With a court of public opinion they control the narrative and simply do what you have been doing, which is ignore evidence and claim it’s all untrue. Fortunately they can’t do that in a real court of law.
The rule of law will prevail. And we know how the dims hate the courts when they can’t control the outcome. As for the fraud allegations? The burden of proof is on them to disprove the allegations.
The dims were way to sloppy in their exuberance to steal an election, and it’s coming back to bite them in ways they never imagined.
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They've got nothing except people making accusations and that isn't proof.
It's interesting that you state "they've got nothing" ... yet, where is your proof of that?
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No. You do both. If there was evidence, they would also be publishing it it to gain support because winning public support is at least as important as winning the court case. There isn’t and that is telling of the outcome of the legal case.
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isn't the above the very definition of strawman argument?
maybe I don't understand the correct use of the term....
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No. You do both. If there was evidence, they would also be publishing it it to gain support because winning public support is at least as important as winning the court case.
You’re right in the sense that mob mentality can overwhelm the legal process. The daycare sex abuse hysteria in the 80s for example. Even if allegations were never proven, people spent time in jail and years and millions of dollars fighting the case.
Hopefully in this country justice always prevails over mob opinion.
The problem with you wanting the evidence published is, as we keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, it’s not safe to do so for the witnesses, and, the mainstream media is so biased they’ll lie about it, minimize it, distort it and so on. The proper way to release the evidence is through the legal process as it proceeds.
In this case, you’re right in the sense that the longer the Dems are led to believe Biden legitimately won, the worse the backlash when Trump is reinaugurated. But the reality is that mainstream media is so corrupt that releasing any more detailed evidence won’t be honestly reported, it will just be twisted and used to fuel even more rage, as it’s spun as more Trump “lies”.
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You’re right in the sense that mob mentality can overwhelm the legal process. The daycare sex abuse hysteria in the 80s for example. Even if allegations were never proven, people spent time in jail and years and millions of dollars fighting the case.
Hopefully in this country justice always prevails over mob opinion.
The dims are all in for mob rule. Just watching TV this summer while the democrats burned down cities while openly threatening the citizens proves it.
The problem with you wanting the evidence published is, as we keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, it’s not safe to do so for the witnesses, and, the mainstream media is so biased they’ll lie about it, minimize it, distort it and so on. The proper way to release the evidence is through the legal process as it proceeds.
Judges watch TV and read papers just like everyone else. The entire dim argument "they don't have any evidence!" is a ploy to entice the legal teams to divulge their evidence before trial so they can take to the airways and print media to distort the evidence, intimidate witnesses and fuel public discourse. Nothing more. Which tells you that the dims have absolutely no defense going into the trial phases in court.
Once the allegations are presented with evidence it becomes the burden of proof shifts to the dims to defend their fraud. And they can't.
In this case, you’re right in the sense that the longer the Dems are led to believe Biden legitimately won, the worse the backlash when Trump is reinaugurated. But the reality is that mainstream media is so corrupt that releasing any more detailed evidence won’t be honestly reported, it will just be twisted and used to fuel even more rage, as it’s spun as more Trump “lies”.
Agreed.
And I will make one other point. The fraud is not isolated to the dims, we are going to see plenty of establishment republicans get swept up in this as well.
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The dims want this fought in the court of public opinion because they have the machine of the MSM to carry them through.
The Democrats aren't doing a thing about public opinion, they already have it. They won the election and Republicans have failed to show anything substantial that changes that. All Trump is doing right now is rearranging deck chairs and screwing up how people view him.
Like I've said before, the gentlemanly thing to do was to concede a while ago. No surprise he hasn't.
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The Democrats aren't doing a thing about public opinion, they already have it. They won the election and Republicans have failed to show anything substantial that changes that. All Trump is doing right now is rearranging deck chairs and screwing up how people view him.
So what's the issue with letting the President have his day in court? Shouldn't he be afforded the same rights as anyone else?
BTW, in case you missed it, https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/pennsylvania-judge-says-plaintiffs-have-viable-claim-state-mail-ballot-rule.
A state judge in Pennsylvania is upholding her earlier injunction against the state's certification of the 2020 election results, stating that a lawsuit alleging the unconstitutionality of a state ballot rule is "likel[y] to succeed" on its own merits.
In the ruling Friday nights , Judge Patricia McCullough stipulated that her earlier temporary injunction against the state's elecion certification process was valid and should be enforced.
The lawsuit on which McCullough made the initial injunction argued that the Pennsylvania legislature's Act 77, passed last year, "contravene[d] the requirements of the Pennsylvania Constitution." That act, the petitioners claimed, constituted "an attempt by the legislature to fundamentally overhaul the Pennsylvania voting system and permit universal, no-excuse, mail-in voting absent any constitutional authority," as McCullough summarized the petitioners' argument in her Friday ruling.
The petitioners, McCullough writes in the ruling, "appear to have established a likelihood to succeed on the merits because Petitioners have asserted the Constitution does not provide a mechanism for the legislature to allow for expansion of absentee voting without a constitutional amendment."
The Pennsylvania Department of State's office on Tuesday announced that it had certified the presidential and vice presidential election results in Pennsylvania, though McCullough in her ruling noted that there were numerous steps to be taken to officially finalize that certification in state records.
"[T]he emergency preliminary injunction was properly issued," the ruling states, "and should be upheld pending an expedited emergency evidentiary hearing."
Like I've said before, the gentlemanly thing to do was to concede a while ago. No surprise he hasn't.
Why concede before all options are run out? Again, all the Trump team has to do is present it's allegations and evidence, which only needs a preponderance of the evidence before a judge. The burden of proof will be on the democrats to disprove it.
Notice which side is panicking at the moment? Says it all.
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The Democrats aren't doing a thing about public opinion, they already have it. They won the election and Republicans have failed to show anything substantial that changes that. All Trump is doing right now is rearranging deck chairs and screwing up how people view him.
Like I've said before, the gentlemanly thing to do was to concede a while ago. No surprise he hasn't.
Disagree. Trump is not rearranging deck chairs. He is arranging legal arguments to present facts, and illegal actions by the Democrats. The CORRUPT MEDIA is controlling how people view him which is inaccurate and totally irrelevant from a legal perspective. Are we a nation of laws or Manipulated, Corrupt, Invented Perception? Pick one. Choose wisely because this is how it will be going forward.
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The Democrats aren't doing a thing about public opinion, they already have it. They won the election and Republicans have failed to show anything substantial that changes that. All Trump is doing right now is rearranging deck chairs and screwing up how people view him.
Like I've said before, the gentlemanly thing to do was to concede a while ago. No surprise he hasn't.
We don’t need a gentleman right now. We need a warrior.
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https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf
Affidavit
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf
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https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.0_1.pdf
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Damn
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Holy shit!!
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Disagree. Trump is not rearranging deck chairs. He is arranging legal arguments to present facts, and illegal actions by the Democrats. The CORRUPT MEDIA is controlling how people view him which is inaccurate and totally irrelevant from a legal perspective. Are we a nation of laws or Manipulated, Corrupt, Invented Perception. Pick one. Choose wisely because this is how it will be going forward.
Then he had better start presenting facts. Accusations are not facts. Republicans accuse that “someone” tampered with ballots, but they cannot name a name nor point out the specific ballots that are bad, so how do they think they know? Their requests for relief are ludicrous; to set aside X hundred thousand ballots to make sure they remove the bad ones. That is NOT going to happen in any court at any level.
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Alas, the Ramsland Affidavit ( https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf (https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf)) that is referenced in the complaint appears to have some serious problems (unless there is another corrected one filed elsewhere). The errors are discussed here:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-are-doing.php (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-are-doing.php)
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Then he had better start presenting facts. Accusations are not facts. Republicans accuse that “someone” tampered with ballots, but they cannot name a name nor point out the specific ballots that are bad, so how do they think they know? Their requests for relief are ludicrous; to set aside X hundred thousand ballots to make sure they remove the bad ones. That is NOT going to happen in any court at any level.
again, you are using strawmen.
What the Trump lawyers are doing don't meet your standard of what you want...
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FBI is now involved investigating the vote fraud. Gonna get interesting.
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1333042159981912067
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1333042160669700097
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https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1331299873556086787
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1331324173910761476
https://twitter.com/crossroads_josh/status/1332337990539096064
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again, you are using strawmen.
What the Trump lawyers are doing don't meet your standard of what you want...
Presenting facts is not my standard. It's the standard courts use. If you go to a judge and say "I think this guy is cheating", they judge will dismiss your case, as has happened with Trump.
If you want to prevail, you need to present fact. This guy counted 150,000 ballots that had no signature. PA law clearly requires that not only must they have a signature, but that the signature must match. These ballots are illegal and must be removed from the vote total.
Do you see the difference? Trump has the first one, not the second.
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https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1331299873556086787
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status/1331324173910761476
https://twitter.com/crossroads_josh/status/1332337990539096064
This is an example of evidence being investigated.
The addresses listed here are UPS stores or Post Offices. There will be a paper trail back to the registrant.
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This is an example of evidence being investigated.
The addresses listed here are UPS stores or Post Offices. There will be a paper trail back to the registrant.
Yes and did you read what he said? The same person voting in multiple states. How is that not evidence of fraud?
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Presenting facts is not my standard. It's the standard courts use.
your standard is presenting facts to the public. The standard used by the courts is to present facts to the court.
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https://therightscoop.com/former-fbi-special-agent-finds-massive-number-of-absentee-votes-from-non-residents/
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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/its_in_the_code_hankypanky_in_virginias_votes.html?fbclid=IwAR0u7J_MtJQQmIkFB6S4x9vj4WvWcWD3M4jMtkKpDjf0j1PJ6cDIgj0RZyI
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https://mobile.twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1333099394669948929
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https://therightscoop.com/former-fbi-special-agent-finds-massive-number-of-absentee-votes-from-non-residents/
I know this is true for a fact. When I moved from NC to TX they forwarded me an absentee ballot from my NC precinct (I didn’t even ask them to) and I could have filled it out and sent it back and I also had registered to vote in TX. Furthermore I could have filled out my mothers when I went to visit her and voted three times. She would have been none the wiser in her demented state. In fact I’m convinced that millions of old people voted not the way they would have wanted to, but the way their children or caretakers or “helpful” ballot harvesters wanted.
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I know this is true for a fact. When I moved from NC to TX they forwarded me an absentee ballot from my NC precinct (I didn’t even ask them to) and I could have filled it out and sent it back and I also had registered to vote in TX. Furthermore I could have filled out my mothers when I went to visit her and voted three times. She would have been none the wiser in her demented state. In fact I’m convinced that millions of old people voted not the way they would have wanted to, but the way their children or caretakers or “helpful” ballot harvesters wanted.
Yet I’m still amazed that those who spent 4 years telling us the 2016 election was rigged and tampered with are now telling us there is zero evidence of election fraud in the 2020 election.
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https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/11/sidney-powell-seize-voting-machines/
Sidney Powell GA Lawsuit Demands Every Voting Machine Be Seized and Undergo Immediate Forensic Audit
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https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/11/sidney-powell-seize-voting-machines/
I can see the GA gov and SoS fighting like crazy to stop this.
Honestly, not being from GA I never realize how corrupt it’s become there.
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I can see the GA gov and SoS fighting like crazy to stop this.
Honestly, not being from GA I never realize how corrupt it’s become there.
Atlanta. The problem everywhere is cities:
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/10/city-killing-america-daniel-greenfield/
The growth of urban areas benefited Democrat political machines. These machines however fell out of the hands of the old machine politicians and into the hands of a class of academic leftists who were detached from everyday life and incapable of understanding basic economic realities. They accumulated populations without having the faintest idea of how to provide for them even while imposing policies that crushed industries and shattered the economies of entire regions.
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L. Lin Wood just got an injunction signed to stop voting machine tampering in GA.
https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333136893899399168
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too bad they didn't stop the tampering before the election
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too bad they didn't stop the tampering before the election
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True.
I suspect many of the machines have already been wiped. This election has been so "transparent" that a mad rush to destroy evidence has been underway.
Yep, nothing to hide.
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L. Lin Wood just got an injunction signed to stop voting machine tampering in GA.
https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333136893899399168 (https://mobile.twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1333136893899399168)
https://twitter.com/llinwood/status/1333134939412443141?s=21 (https://twitter.com/llinwood/status/1333134939412443141?s=21)
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https://twitter.com/llinwood/status/1333134939412443141?s=21 (https://twitter.com/llinwood/status/1333134939412443141?s=21)
And Fulton County is one of the areas with questionable results. Unreal.
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And now......
https://parler.com/post/cd6df7a012764d559a68a70a7b354674 (https://parler.com/post/cd6df7a012764d559a68a70a7b354674)
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And now......
https://parler.com/post/cd6df7a012764d559a68a70a7b354674 (https://parler.com/post/cd6df7a012764d559a68a70a7b354674)
Guess the mob got to him.
For a group that keeps claiming how there is nothing nefarious with this election they sure are fighting hard to keep everything secret and away from anyone who may question it.
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Still have two Senate elections to steal.
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Still have two Senate elections to steal.
That election is already over, and both dims have won.
Hate to say it, but as long as the GA SoS and Governor insist on using the exact same techniques in the runoff as they used Nov 3rd, it's already over.
Chuck Schumer will be in charge of the senate. Enjoy.
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https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/11/not-only-arent-republicans-reversing-2020-disaster-daniel-greenfield/
The RNC is DOA.
I've yet to see any meaningful response from the republicans on whats unfolding in GA. Not even the turtle has wanted to get involved, which is telling.
Goodbye republicans, you will soon be less significant than the libertarian party.
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#america1stparty
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https://www.scribd.com/document/486098384/Michigan-Vote-Analysis#from_embed
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This morning we have this......
https://twitter.com/llinwood/status/1333259577182334976?s=21 (https://twitter.com/llinwood/status/1333259577182334976?s=21)
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https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/bizarre-georgia-govt-lawyers-defended-dominions-trade-secrets-to-stop-forensic-analysis-of-machines-software/
The court ordered that voting software and information contained therein should not be destroyed, or erased or altered in Cobb, Gwinnett, and Cherokee Counties.
But the order also revealed:
“Defendants’ counsel also argued that allowing such forensic inspections would pose substantial security and proprietary/trade secret risks to Defendants.”
The bizarre nature of government lawyers defending a private, foreign company’s “trade secrets” instead of attempting to secure the vote of the American public will raise further questions about the company’s involvement in U.S. voting systems.
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https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/bizarre-georgia-govt-lawyers-defended-dominions-trade-secrets-to-stop-forensic-analysis-of-machines-software/
Yeah, tough shit. Constitution trumps all.
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trade secrets, proprietary stuff are valid considerations. But, the government has had access to proprietary information for many many systems. Protecting proprietary info is nothing new and it's really not rocket science. The vital trick is people keeping their mouth shut... and that type of personality characteristic is not typical of the politician or the people the media uses.
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When one considers the software that Dominion uses is based off Windows 7, a system that microsoft no longer supports and is not secure, I can hardly see the "concerns" here.
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Oh no. A black box where votes go in one end and a result comes out the other and they claim the sausage machine inside is a trade secret? YGBFSM. That ought to be an easy one, it never should have been allowed in the first place. Absolutely zero way to verify it isn’t cheating, from the get go! Plain as day. I’m surprised this was ever allowed.
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Oh no. A black box where votes go in one end and a result comes out the other and they claim the sausage machine inside is a trade secret? YGBFSM. That ought to be an easy one, it never should have been allowed in the first place. Absolutely zero way to verify it isn’t cheating, from the get go! Plain as day. I’m surprised this was ever allowed.
In your state Rush they looked at Dominion and refused to even consider them due to security flaws among other things. Of course, Texas is a free state and wants free and fair elections.
Dominion thrives in the blue states and deep blue cities for a reason.
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Then he had better start presenting facts. Accusations are not facts. Republicans accuse that “someone” tampered with ballots, but they cannot name a name nor point out the specific ballots that are bad, so how do they think they know? Their requests for relief are ludicrous; to set aside X hundred thousand ballots to make sure they remove the bad ones. That is NOT going to happen in any court at any level.
Whether or not a judge refuses to set aside thousands of ballots does not invalidate the need to try to uncover such massive fraud, unless you want the fraud to continue. Well, do you?
Madison and Dane County Wisconsin vote bundlers telling absentee voters to check the “indefinitely confined” box so they don’t have to submit voter ID is an example of MASSIVE (200,000 votes) fraud designed to circumvent the Wisconsin Voter ID law. These bundlers had radio ads telling people to show up at parks in Madison to turn over these votes to these bundlers.
What. The. Fuck.
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https://twitter.com/rothbard1776/status/1333588949831458818?s=21 (https://twitter.com/rothbard1776/status/1333588949831458818?s=21)
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1333571573220073472
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https://spectator.org/legitimacy-of-biden-win-buried-by-objective-data/
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Raffensperger is getting nervous.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/georgia-secretary-of-state-opens-250-investigations-into-credible-claims-of-illegal-voting
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Raffensperger is getting nervous.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/georgia-secretary-of-state-opens-250-investigations-into-credible-claims-of-illegal-voting (https://www.dailywire.com/news/georgia-secretary-of-state-opens-250-investigations-into-credible-claims-of-illegal-voting)
It's just a deflection to appease. Looks like one of the Senate candidates is caught up in this.
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https://twitter.com/NatyLiy/status/1333500580287950849?s=20
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POTUS keeps saying he is not giving up, “ever.”
Foreign involvement = activate EO and military.
I don’t know what any of that would look like, but I’m guessing he’s trying to smoke out a concession from China Joe.
However, the Fraud Cabal will probably hold out for maximum civil unrest and destruction, the arena in which they prefer to fight.
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SEC filings: The parent company of Dominion Voting Systems received $400 million from an Investment Bank in Switzerland that is 75% owned by the Chinese government. UBS Securities is a Swiss investment bank which owns 24.99% of UBS Securities Co LTD, a Chinese Investment Bank. The remaining 75% of UBS Securities CO LTD is owned by the Chinese government,” states the report.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/12/guess-who-owned-vote.html
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Raffensperger is getting nervous.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/georgia-secretary-of-state-opens-250-investigations-into-credible-claims-of-illegal-voting
Just FYI here is a U.S. Justice department fact sheet on Federal Election Fraud that seems to indicate many of the claims would be Federal felonies:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-nh/pr/federal-election-fraud-fact-sheet (https://www.justice.gov/usao-nh/pr/federal-election-fraud-fact-sheet)
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Just FYI here is a U.S. Justice department fact sheet on Federal Election Fraud that seems to indicate many of the claims would be Federal felonies:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-nh/pr/federal-election-fraud-fact-sheet (https://www.justice.gov/usao-nh/pr/federal-election-fraud-fact-sheet)
Thanks.
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Watching the Michigan Senate Hearing.
Witnesses get 3 minutes to speak. Some of the senators holding the meeting are acting like they are disinterested in hearing this.
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https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/breaking-whistleblowers-allege-up-to-300000-completed-ballots-crossed-state-lines-in-october/
A Pennsylvania postal truck driver is set to allege that there were an estimated 144,000 to 288,000 completed ballots shipped across three state lines in October, according to new revelations from the Amistad Project.
Later Tuesday the national constitutional litigation organization, the Amistad Project will host a press conference featuring three whistleblowers who are set to provide eyewitness testimony demonstrating “significant potential election fraud, some of which affects hundreds of thousands of ballots.”
According to the Amistad Project – which is part of the Thomas More Society – the whistleblower affidavits are being used as evidence in litigation to ensure election integrity and the upholding of election laws in key battleground states, including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
Phill Kline, Director of the Amistad Project will appear alongside the whistleblowers on Tuesday at 2PM EST, to be broadcast on Real America’s Voice.
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At this point in time I believe the Biden campaign team knew exactly what states and counties were targeted for fraud and is the reason he held any "events" in those places at all. It was all for the optics.
Now we are seeing Twitter block folks that are testifying about the fraud or express any belief in the fraud.
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At this point in time I believe the Biden campaign team knew exactly what states and counties were targeted for fraud and is the reason he held any "events" in those places at all. It was all for the optics.
Now we are seeing Twitter block folks that are testifying about the fraud or express any belief in the fraud.
Twitter is following the example of the CCP.
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https://www.scribd.com/document/486542261/Wisconsin-Filing-12-1-20-Compressed#from_embed
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https://www.scribd.com/document/486542261/Wisconsin-Filing-12-1-20-Compressed#from_embed
Awesome! Thanks Lucifer.
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Now Bill Barr says the DoJ can't find any evidence of election fraud.
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Now Bill Barr says the DoJ can't find any evidence of election fraud.
I guess, if you're not really looking.....
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Now Bill Barr says the DoJ can't find any evidence of election fraud.
They searched his entire office and found nothing.
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Does it now seem like Barr is just a swamp plant. The Durham investigation was just used to run out the clock.
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Now Bill Barr says the DoJ can't find any evidence of election fraud.
Link?
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Now Bill Barr says the DoJ can't find any evidence of election fraud.
Maybe the DoJ shouldn't use the crack team of Mr Magoo, Sgt Shultz, and Inspector Clouseau.
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Link?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/election-2020/ct-william-barr-doj-voting-fraud-20201201-ynlvqo5utvhoxa4w6d7phj3wua-story.html
https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2020/12/attorney-general-william-barr-no-evidence-of-fraud-thatd-change-election-outcome.html
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/01/attorney-general-barr-no-evidence-widespread-election-fraud/3783305001/
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I guess, if you're not really looking.....
But they'll damn sure load a plane up with a dozen FBI agents and fly them to a NASCAR track to investigate a door pull..............
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President Trump said the DOJ and FBI were “MIA.” Sidney Powell said the DOJ and FBI should be hosed out with Clorox and a firehose.
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https://media.thedonald.win/post/sKr92nno.jpeg
Statement from the President’s legal team.
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The fix is in so deep that even Bill Barr can't find the proof...
Of course, all he is using is a flashlight and a pair of camp fire girls.
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The fix is in so deep that even Bill Barr can't find the proof...
Of course, all he is using is a flashlight and a pair of camp fire girls.
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What Barr said is that there is no evidence of WIDESPREAD voter fraud.
https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
That doesn't mean that there wasn't voter fraud in specific critical cities that had an effect on the outcome of the election. Of course the MSM leaves out the important word "widespread".
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What Barr said is that there is no evidence of WIDESPREAD voter fraud.
https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
That doesn't mean that there wasn't voter fraud in specific critical cities that had an effect on the outcome of the election. Of course the MSM leaves out the important word "widespread".
Doesn't matter.
That was an irresponsible statement from Barr. I'm sure he is under immense pressure from the swamp to say something to help steer the narrative.
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What Barr said is that there is no evidence of WIDESPREAD voter fraud.
https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
That doesn't mean that there wasn't voter fraud in specific critical cities that had an effect on the outcome of the election. Of course the MSM leaves out the important word "widespread".
He also said “Note, I said to date. That could change at any time.” The AP left out that important qualification.
I’m wondering if Barr isn’t deliberately misleading the media while secretly conducting an investigation and gathering evidence of fraud on a massive scale and Trump is going along with the theater. Is that too much to hope for?
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He also said “Note, I said to date. That could change at any time.” The AP left out that important qualification.
I’m wondering if Barr isn’t deliberately misleading the media while secretly conducting an investigation and gathering evidence of fraud on a massive scale and Trump is going along with the theater. Is that too much to hope for?
yup
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The DOJ is continuing the investigation:
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1333937356185997312?s=20
https://www.ntd.com/doj-not-done-investigating-election-fraud-spokesperson-says_535184.html
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Watching the MI legislature hearing, and watching the democrats trying to turn it into a circus.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334282156349267970
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https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1334165432161374209
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Continuing to watch the MI hearing. What’s with the Democrats who can’t conduct themselves with a little dignity and composure during a hearing?
Certainly no “gentlemanly” conduct there.
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"17,327 Michigan voters also had a corresponding obituary"
-Cybersecurity expert and retired Colonel Phil Waldron
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This paper was published in September 2019, over a year before the election. Think they were psychic, or this was planned?
https://www.luc.edu/media/lucedu/law/students/publications/llj/pdfs/vol-51/issue-2/7_Foley%20(309-362).pdf
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You guys really are delusional. For Biden to have "stolen" the election he'd have needed a conspiracy spanning several states, many of which are controlled by Republicans. No one, not even Barr, has found a shred of evidence of this. You all live in some sort of weird alternate reality where the folks you deride as being able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time can pull off a sweeping conspiracy with multiple actors and no one dropping a dime. Delusional.
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You guys really are delusional. For Biden to have "stolen" the election he'd have needed a conspiracy spanning several states, many of which are controlled by Republicans. No one, not even Barr, has found a shred of evidence of this. You all live in some sort of weird alternate reality where the folks you deride as being able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time can pull off a sweeping conspiracy with multiple actors and no one dropping a dime. Delusional.
"Delusional" is denying the very evidence presented in front of you.
BTW, AG Barr has not stated that the DoJ "has not found a shred of evidence". The AP that wrote that story (surprise!) took his statement out of context.
Here is Dr Shiva Ayyadurai presenting some evidence. Please note that Dr Shiva Ayyadurai is a Ph.D. in biological engineering from MIT, and holds an undergraduate degree from MIT in electrical engineering and computer science, including a master's degree in visual studies from the MIT Media Laboratory on scientific visualization; concurrently, he completed another master's degree in mechanical engineering, also from MIT.
And since he has presented a clear concise evaluation of the facts, he's now being smeared and maligned by your comrades in the MSM.
https://banned.video/watch?id=5fc87a81a4eedc5a2e30d339
There is so much more, from many more highly respected people. If you had paid any attention you would have seen and heard their testimony already.
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This paper was published in September 2019, over a year before the election. Think they were psychic, or this was planned?
https://www.luc.edu/media/lucedu/law/students/publications/llj/pdfs/vol-51/issue-2/7_Foley%20(309-362).pdf
Holy shit!
They got one thing wrong: “ As the clock ticks toward noon on January 20, all of D.C.—indeed all of America—is in turmoil over what will happen.”
Much of America will not be in turmoil because of the news media blackout on what’s actually happening and the AP declaration that the election is already settled.
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Holy shit!
They got one thing wrong: “ As the clock ticks toward noon on January 20, all of D.C.—indeed all of America—is in turmoil over what will happen.”
Much of America will not be in turmoil because of the news media blackout on what’s actually happening and the AP declaration that the election is already settled.
The more MSM and Big Tech try to censor and hide this, the more it's becoming seen.
They started off by saying there was no evidence of election fraud. Then they said the evidence presented was not credible (to them). Now they are saying "Well, there's no "widespread" election fraud and "not enough to change the outcome". And they are saying this while attacking anyone who wants to see or provide proof.
Furthermore, "no widespread election fraud"..........WTF? So how much is acceptable?
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You guys really are delusional. For Biden to have "stolen" the election he'd have needed a conspiracy spanning several states, many of which are controlled by Republicans. No one, not even Barr, has found a shred of evidence of this. You all live in some sort of weird alternate reality where the folks you deride as being able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time can pull off a sweeping conspiracy with multiple actors and no one dropping a dime. Delusional.
I am watching the hearings live, are you? There is PLENTY of evidence of yes, widespread fraud. No one dropping a dime? HUNDREDS of people have "dropped dimes" but you don't hear about it on CNN. I'm listening to their testimony myself. They "dropped dimes" beginning election day from when they first saw the fraud with their own eyes. I have seen the videos of poll workers rudely excluding Republican watchers. I have seen the video of a postal worker trashing hundreds of ballots.
The witnesses testifying are being threatened, fired, blacklisted, doxed, and physically attacked, putting at least one in the hospital. Do you think they didn't know this would happen to them? Do you believe they are all lying? Why the hell would they put themselves through that to LIE?
I stayed up all night on election night and saw for myself the moment those states simultaneously stopped reporting when it became obvious Trump was winning. They closed doors, banned Republican watchers, and then in the morning surprise, Biden suddenly got hundreds of thousands more votes in statistically impossible amounts. I (and everyone else) who stayed up that night KNEW something fishy was going on.
What happened was the Dominion machines were rigged to account for Trump ahead by a certain amount. When Trump exceeded that, the Dominion machines' capacity to adjust was exceeded and the Dems had to stop the count, shut the doors and manufacture or transport in enough paper "mail in" ballots. All of this has plenty of witness testimony in addition to statistical analysis proving the impossibility of the results, for example, more ballots from a district than not only the number of registered voters, but the entire population of the district. Are you hearing about this in CNN?
Do you really doubt that the Democrats couldn't pull off a "sweeping conspiracy" when hatred of Trump is so visceral, you suggested yourself that if there was a way to go back in time and prevent Hitler's rise, it might be the right thing to do. That is exactly what all you Democrats think of Trump, you feel a moral obligation to stop him at any cost, and breaking the law to do it is fully morally justified to you. Do you doubt that Democrats who feel exactly that way didn't volunteer for the polls and won't do what they can when it is soooooooooo easy (to pretend a signature matches, to "call" an unclear ballot for Biden over Trump, etc.) It would not require a "conspiracy" it would only require a bunch of Trump hating independent poll teams in all these major cities to act on their own.
Then throw in Dominion and Smartmatic. One company and it's software and the machines connected to the internet, you've got access to multiple states. Very easy to be "widespread" cheating through that alone. Why the hell are our votes being counted by machines from Canada and servers in Europe? And why will Dominion not make them available for forensic analysis? BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'VE BEEN CAUGHT.
The alternate reality is what the AP and mainstream media is doing, pretending Biden won and ignoring the mounting evidence of massive fraud, mostly made possible by no voter ID, mail in ballots, and computerized voting.
Not to mention the alternate reality that an obviously demented, repulsive creep who couldn't draw a crowd over 200 and campaigned on promises to raise taxes and destroy the U.S. energy industry won over Trump, who created the best economy we've had in decades, and is drawing massive numbers of blacks and Hispanics away from the Democrats. Talk about delusional.
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You guys really are delusional. For Biden to have "stolen" the election he'd have needed a conspiracy spanning several states, many of which are controlled by Republicans. No one, not even Barr, has found a shred of evidence of this. You all live in some sort of weird alternate reality where the folks you deride as being able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time can pull off a sweeping conspiracy with multiple actors and no one dropping a dime. Delusional.
Not really. There could also just be a world view bias in the election workers. If they KNOW that Biden was the correct choice then they might collectively determine that altering ballots is technically illegal, but morally right. The complaints I'm hearing are of things being done outside the laws of the state and the areas those laws were broken in created a bias for Biden that caused him to win.
Biden won through 4 bubble states and the collective margin of victory in those 4 states was under 57,000. We're not talking about millions of votes, we're talking about fewer than 15,000 votes in each state. That is way closer than any recent election.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/nevada-fraud-1-500-dead-voters-42-248-voted-multiple-times-rv-camps-as-homes
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Biden won through 4 bubble states and the collective margin of victory in those 4 states was under 57,000. We're not talking about millions of votes, we're talking about fewer than 15,000 votes in each state. That is way closer than any recent election.
And if I'm not mistaken at least 3 of those states had Republican legislatures, Republican Secretaries of State, and equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans tallying the vote. That's a lot of people (who you all deride as knuckledragging troglodytes) carrying out massive election fraud. And unless they were conspiring with each other all these people were independently courting serious jail time if caught. Biden won by more than Trump did in 2016 (remember, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote) and no one cried foul.
What I really hate about this is it denigrates our faith in Democracy. Democracy is the ONLY legitimacy our leaders have. if we start questioning elections just because our guy didn't win we delegitimize our basis of government.
And that's just what our adversaries want. By buying into this garbage you're all helping old Vladimir Putin, who really does punch outside his weight. Congratulations Comrade. Fact is your guy lost. Get used to it.
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And if I'm not mistaken at least 3 of those states had Republican legislatures, Republican Secretaries of State, and equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans tallying the vote. That's a lot of people (who you all deride as knuckledragging troglodytes) carrying out massive election fraud. And unless they were conspiring with each other all these people were independently courting serious jail time if caught.
This is why there needs to be forensic investigations. Who cares which party the perpetrators belong to?
Biden won by more than Trump did in 2016 (remember, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote) and no one cried foul.
Can you please show us in the US Constitution where it refers to the popular vote with regards to Presidential elections?
What I really hate about this is it denigrates our faith in Democracy. Democracy is the ONLY legitimacy our leaders have. if we start questioning elections just because our guy didn't win we delegitimize our basis of government.
You are, once again, totally missing the point. What denigrates our faith in free and fair elections is election fraud. We the people of the United States choose our government, and when that process has been corrupted, we the people demand answers and want a fair and honest review. That's what is being asked.
De-legitimizing our government is allowing people to take office under dubious and suspected circumstances.
And that's just what our adversaries want. By buying into this garbage you're all helping old Vladimir Putin, who really does punch outside his weight. Congratulations Comrade. Fact is your guy lost. Get used to it.
But here you are wanting to give in to these foreign entities that have corrupted our election system. It's people like yourself that is surrendering to them because they helped get your guy elected.
The American people again are wanting answers, and they are not wanting to be told by a party that is run by far left Marxist to "Get use to it your guy lost".
Just the mere fact that the Progressive Left is putting up such a fight to censor and silence anyone who speaks up against this tells us all where the real problems are.
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And if I'm not mistaken at least 3 of those states had Republican legislatures, Republican Secretaries of State, and equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans tallying the vote. That's a lot of people (who you all deride as knuckledragging troglodytes) carrying out massive election fraud. And unless they were conspiring with each other all these people were independently courting serious jail time if caught. Biden won by more than Trump did in 2016 (remember, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote) and no one cried foul.
What I really hate about this is it denigrates our faith in Democracy. Democracy is the ONLY legitimacy our leaders have. if we start questioning elections just because our guy didn't win we delegitimize our basis of government.
And that's just what our adversaries want. By buying into this garbage you're all helping old Vladimir Putin, who really does punch outside his weight. Congratulations Comrade. Fact is your guy lost. Get used to it.
Speaking for Georgia, elections are conducted by the county and county officials and numbers are reported to the state.
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https://rumble.com/vbkkd1-suitcases-of-ballots-pulled-from-under-table-after-poll-watchers-were-told-.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1
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if we start questioning elections just because our guy didn't win we delegitimize our basis of government.
You don't get it. Since you claim to be an intelligent person, you must be deliberately ignoring the reality of why people are questioning the election.
I'll type this slowly, just in case you are actually as dense as you come across.
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https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1334569329334083586
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Can you please show us in the US Constitution where it refers to the popular vote with regards to Presidential elections?
You obviously don't read English so good. What I said was that Trump won by a much narrower margin than Biden. But no one tried to dispute his victory.
You are, once again, totally missing the point. What denigrates our faith in free and fair elections is election fraud. We the people of the United States choose our government, and when that process has been corrupted, we the people demand answers and want a fair and honest review. That's what is being asked.
All your doing is empowering a guy who claims fraud EVERY time he looses. He did it when he didn't get his Emmy, he did it when he lost his first primary, and he's doing it now. But you can't seem to see that because you're blinded by the orange glow coming off his fool head.
De-legitimizing our government is allowing people to take office under dubious and suspected circumstances.
The only "dubious circumstances" is your guy lost, can't take it, and you aren't sufficiently clever to see the pattern. There isn't one shred of evidence of the sort of fraud needed to change the outcome. Even Trump's biggest stooge, Barr, couldn't find any. Now that he's announced that little factoid publicly Trump will probably fire him.
But here you are wanting to give in to these foreign entities that have corrupted our election system. It's people like yourself that is surrendering to them because they helped get your guy elected.
The only one who's engaged foreign entities to swing an elections Trump himself. Maybe he tried it with the Russians, though I don't think so. He definitely tried it with the Ukrainians, and I think he tried it with the Chinese too.
The American people again are wanting answers, and they are not wanting to be told by a party that is run by far left Marxist to "Get use to it your guy lost".
No, idiots are wanting answers because they live in a delusional alternate reality where their guy won despite the fact that he got fewer votes and fewer electors.
Just the mere fact that the Progressive Left is putting up such a fight to censor and silence anyone who speaks up against this tells us all where the real problems are.
Please give an example of how someone is trying to censor the idiots who think Trump won the election. Who's been threatened with legal action? Who's in jail?
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You obviously don't read English so good. What I said was that Trump won by a much narrower margin than Biden. But no one tried to dispute his victory.
And you have terrible grammar. ::)
You keep harping on a popular vote when no such thing exist in Presidential elections,
All your doing is empowering a guy who claims fraud EVERY time he looses. He did it when he didn't get his Emmy, he did it when he lost his first primary, and he's doing it now. But you can't seem to see that because you're blinded by the orange glow coming off his fool head.
Why are you trying to subvert a legal process? Why are you so determined to shut people down from exercising their rights? Why are you so willing to surrender to foreign actors who took part in election fraud? Why are you so willing to look the other way when people we are suppose to entrust with our elections are committing felonies against our laws?
The only "dubious circumstances" is your guy lost, can't take it, and you aren't sufficiently clever to see the pattern. There isn't one shred of evidence of the sort of fraud needed to change the outcome. Even Trump's biggest stooge, Barr, couldn't find any. Now that he's announced that little factoid publicly Trump will probably fire him.
Looking the other way and claiming "no evidence of the sort of fraud needed to change the outcome" doesn't make it true. Why not let a court of law decide that?
I know you haven't followed any of the hearings on this. I also am aware you haven't read or watched any of the forensic evidence by industry experts, nor have you listened to or read any of the affidavits by the various whistleblowers. The truth is painful and it's damaging to your fantasy.
The only one who's engaged foreign entities to swing an elections Trump himself. Maybe he tried it with the Russians, though I don't think so. He definitely tried it with the Ukrainians, and I think he tried it with the Chinese too.
Can you offer any proof of that? Of course not.
No, idiots are wanting answers because they live in a delusional alternate reality where their guy won despite the fact that he got fewer votes and fewer electors.
Do you have the slightest clue on how elections work? Even remotely?
Please give an example of how someone is trying to censor the idiots who think Trump won the election. Who's been threatened with legal action? Who's in jail?
Multiple witnesses who've offered sworn affidavits are being harassed and threatened. The number is growing daily. Even last night at the MI hearing the democrat legislator, after hearing a long testimony of a witness immediately began harassing her, in which the chairman had to shut her down. Despicable.
Media outlets are censoring individuals as we type. Big Tech has cancelled witness accounts and taken down their content. MSM is refusing to carry any media in which evidence is being presented.
But people like you welcome all of this. This fits so neatly into your ideology.
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And if I'm not mistaken at least 3 of those states had Republican legislatures, Republican Secretaries of State, and equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans tallying the vote. That's a lot of people (who you all deride as knuckledragging troglodytes) carrying out massive election fraud. And unless they were conspiring with each other all these people were independently courting serious jail time if caught. Biden won by more than Trump did in 2016 (remember, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote) and no one cried foul.
What I really hate about this is it denigrates our faith in Democracy. Democracy is the ONLY legitimacy our leaders have. if we start questioning elections just because our guy didn't win we delegitimize our basis of government.
And that's just what our adversaries want. By buying into this garbage you're all helping old Vladimir Putin, who really does punch outside his weight. Congratulations Comrade. Fact is your guy lost. Get used to it.
And those four states in contention - Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin - have major urban centers controlled entirely by democrats. Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee.
Biden magically overperformed in those four cities, while underperforming in nearly ever other large city in the country, including New York, LA, etc.
I’m sure you know this, but probably are still chuckling to yourself thinking that you “got” the conservatives. Don’t be a tool.
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And those four states in contention - Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin - have major urban centers controlled entirely by democrats. Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee.
Biden magically overperformed in those four cities, while underperforming in nearly ever other large city in the country, including New York, LA, etc.
I’m sure you know this, but probably are still chuckling to yourself thinking that you “got” the conservatives. Don’t be a tool.
Feeding trolls only gives them joy and annoys actual adults...
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Multiple witnesses who've offered sworn affidavits are being harassed and threatened. The number is growing daily. Even last night at the MI hearing the democrat legislator, after hearing a long testimony of a witness immediately began harassing her, in which the chairman had to shut her down. Despicable.
Media outlets are censoring individuals as we type. Big Tech has cancelled witness accounts and taken down their content. MSM is refusing to carry any media in which evidence is being presented.
I asked a simple question. Who's been indicted, and who's in jail.
Most of those alleging malfeasance do so anonymously, or won't come forward to support their allegations. Most of the allegations that have bene substantiated are simply misunderstandings. Like I said, Barr, with the weight of the Justice department and the FBI behind him, couldn't find any reasonable election fraud. Barr, who set out to find it because that's what his boss told him to do.
I doubt you'll even stop alleging this, no matter how many claims are debunked, no matter how many people fail to come up with any evidence. I think the only way you'd stop believing it is if Trump himself denied it, and he won't. But good news, he plans to run again in 2024. Should be fun.
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I asked a simple question. Who's been indicted, and who's in jail.
Do you have the slightest inclination as to how the law works?
Most of those alleging malfeasance do so anonymously, or won't come forward to support their allegations.
How do you explain the signed and sworn affidavits (hundreds of them) that have been offered in evidence in support of litigation in various lawsuits?
Most of the allegations that have bene substantiated are simply misunderstandings.
Uh, no. The allegations in the lawsuits are substantiated by signed and sworn affidavits that carry the penalty of perjury. There are hundreds and more being added daily.
Like I said, Barr, with the weight of the Justice department and the FBI behind him, couldn't find any reasonable election fraud. Barr, who set out to find it because that's what his boss told him to do.
Again, you are taking Barr's comments out of context. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/12/02/doj-follows-up-on-barrs-voter-fraud-statement-n2580924
“There’s a growing tendency to use the criminal justice system as sort of a default fix-all,” he said, but first there must be a basis to believe there is a crime to investigate.
“Most claims of fraud are very particularized to a particular set of circumstances or actors or conduct. ... And those have been run down; they are being run down,” Barr said. “Some have been broad and potentially cover a few thousand votes. They have been followed up on.”
I doubt you'll even stop alleging this, no matter how many claims are debunked, no matter how many people fail to come up with any evidence. I think the only way you'd stop believing it is if Trump himself denied it, and he won't. But good news, he plans to run again in 2024. Should be fun.
And I doubt you will ever acknowledge the truth to anything being presented as it doesn't fit your narrative.
Your ideology is so intense you are willing to let nefarious actors, domestic and foreign, destroy our electoral process to get someone you don't like out of office. It's so Marxist of you.
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I asked a simple question. Who's been indicted, and who's in jail.
Most of those alleging malfeasance do so anonymously, or won't come forward to support their allegations. Most of the allegations that have bene substantiated are simply misunderstandings. Like I said, Barr, with the weight of the Justice department and the FBI behind him, couldn't find any reasonable election fraud. Barr, who set out to find it because that's what his boss told him to do.
I doubt you'll even stop alleging this, no matter how many claims are debunked, no matter how many people fail to come up with any evidence. I think the only way you'd stop believing it is if Trump himself denied it, and he won't. But good news, he plans to run again in 2024. Should be fun.
I haven’t heard a single anonymous allegation. The only ones I’ve heard gave their name and showed their face to millions at streamed hearings.
Barr isn’t finished investigating and has said so, in fact most of the evidence had not yet been turned over to him as of yesterday.
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As a resident of the State of Georgia and seeing the video of the ballots being pulled form under that table, I feel cheated. I want to know the detail of what was going on and who those people are and what was the result of what they were doing.
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You guys really are delusional. For Biden to have "stolen" the election he'd have needed a conspiracy spanning several states, many of which are controlled by Republicans. No one, not even Barr, has found a shred of evidence of this. You all live in some sort of weird alternate reality where the folks you deride as being able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time can pull off a sweeping conspiracy with multiple actors and no one dropping a dime. Delusional.
You watching the testimony online?
BTW, Biden did say they have the biggest election fraud org ever.
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You watching the testimony online?
BTW, Biden did say they have the biggest election fraud org ever.
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https://nationalfile.com/more-evidence-new-video-shows-20-binders-full-of-evidence-of-nevada-fraud-says-campaign-has-even-more/
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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/no-one-had-done-data-expert-details-major-effort-investigate-2020-voter
A veteran data expert and onetime Trump campaign staffer revealed to Just the News on Thursday the expansive, expensive and in-depth voter fraud investigations in which he and a team of workers have been immersed round-the-clock since the disputed Nov. 3 election.
"I had some ideas in the aftermath of the election about ways to resolve whether or not there was voter fraud or illegal ballots cast in a way that I thought would be definitive," said Matt Braynard, the director of the Voter Integrity Project, in a podcast interview for John Solomon Reports. "Because, you know, in the day or two after the election, there were all kinds of crazy theories, things that I would consider hearsay or speculation."
"I thought that, you know, I've got some skills here," Braynard told this reporter, acting as guest host for the podcast episode. "I've got a pretty strong background in this area."
Braynard, the director of strategy for the Trump 2016 campaign, has been working in the field of voter data since the 1990s. His resume includes stints in the Republican National Committee's political analysis department as well as with the company Election Data Services, which Braynard called "the nation's premier election administration and redistricting firm."
"I have a pretty intimate understanding of not how a bill is made, but how a vote is made," he said, "all the way back to how voters register, the different ways they vote, and then the ways those votes get counted and tabulated. This is stuff I've been intimately familiar with, gosh, for going on 25 years now."
His initial, tentative efforts to explore voter fraud in the recent election led to a major crowdfunding campaign on the website GoFundMe, which raised well over $200,000, according to Braynard. But that service subsequently removed the crowdfunding campaign, citing alleged election misinformation.
"We never said that we're out here to prove there was voter fraud or to demonstrate it, or we're going to flip this election with this investigation," Braynard said. "We were always about, 'Well, look, here's some techniques that can potentially detect problems.'"
A subsequent fundraiser on the Christian crowdfunding site GiveSendGo raised hundreds of thousands of dollars, Braynard said.
'You've got to pick the rock up'
Armed with a sizable budget, Braynard said he and his team set up a major calling operation to reach out to voters whose votes they had flagged as being potentially suspicious.
"I wanted names," he said, "and phone numbers, and addresses, and declarations signed, and affidavits in mass quantities of numbers, because that's the only thing that really would make a difference," given the margins of victories in the election.
Braynard said their investigations revealed significant quantities of suspect voter data. For instance, his team reached out to voters "who had requested an absentee ballot, but not returned it based on the state's data."
"[A]mong the population of those who did not return the absentee ballot," he said, "we found [a] high percentage across the board never requested it. I think the highest percentage we found was in Arizona. Forty-four percent of those people never requested the absentee ballot."
"We also found among the people who said they did request it, who didn't return it, a substantial number of them actually said, 'Yes, I did return it,'" he said.
Using data sources such as the National Change of Address database and voter registration records on citizens who have moved from one place to another, Braynard said his team found "a substantial number" of voters who may have voted in a state they did not live in.
Braynard said his team found numerous examples of suspicious arrangements, including "thousands of votes in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan" for which voters had reportedly listed a postal facility as their residence, something he said was against the law.
He also cited Wisconsin's "indefinitely confined" voter policy, which this year was significantly broadened due to the COVID-19 pandemic and which allowed voters to submit a ballot without meeting voter ID requirements.
"Basically, we took a random sample of [those voters]," he said. "And we found that of those who we could identify with social media profiles, 44% of them were clearly not indefinitely confined."
Braynard said his team has been "sharing data and having conversations with some of the president's attorneys, their legal teams, and some of the legal groups that are working in parallel or independently," such as the Amistad Project.
Braynard also noted that the FBI has contacted his team to review his data. "All I'm going to say is we're going to completely cooperate," he said.
The data maven admitted that he wasn't sure if all the time and money invested in his investigations would yield the kind of compelling evidence that has turned up in the last few weeks.
"You never know until you spend the money," he said. "You never know if there's a bunch of creepy crawlies under that rock in the swamp until you pick the rock up."
"You've got to pick the rock up," he said.
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https://twitter.com/BigFish3000/status/1334309546186125314
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I watched the last couple of hours of the GA hearing yesterday. The most influential to me was the college professor explaining how the consent decree entered into by the SOC and Governor with Stacy Abrams violated the State Constitution and voided the election.
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https://thenationalpulse.com/news/nevada-fraud-hearing-obstruction-machines-dead/
Since the election contest case was filed, a host of developments have occurred regarding officials receiving access to inspect voting systems and data revealing the extent of fraud in the swing state.
Obstruction.
One such development is that the United States Postal Service (USPS) is “preventing witnesses and whistleblowers from testifying,” concerning wide-scale orders for workers to deliver ballots to nearly 8,000 “undeliverable” addresses. The ballots were later “collected, turned in, and presumably counted.”
“There are multiple key witnesses who are whistleblowers with matching, independent stories supporting these issues, who USPS is trying to obstruct from testifying,” the Nevada GOP notes.
100,000 Forged Ballots.
The state Republican Party is also putting forward a data scientist testifying to over 100,000 unique cases of illegal ballots.
The findings come from an analysis of over two million records including Nevada state voter files, Nevada Election Day voter files, early voting files, consumer data files, and more.
The findings reveal over 40,000 duplicate ballots and 1,500 deceased voters:
Out of State Voters: Almost 20,000 Nevada voters had a non-Nevada mailing address;
Non-existent Addresses: Approximately 8,000 voters had registered addresses that are physically non-existent;
USPS Flags on Non-Residential Addresses: approximately 15,000 voters are registered to vote at either a commercial address or a vacant property;
USPS Flags on Vacant Addresses: Almost 6,000;
National Change of Address Out of State: 2,468 voters legally changed their address to another jurisdiction or state or country;
Deceased Voters: Almost 1,500 Nevada voters listed as deceased by the Social Security Administration (SSA) Master Death File, Consumer Data Vendors, Public Obituary Data Matches, and Credit Bureau Deceased Data voted;
Duplicate Voter Registrations: 42,000 voters voted twice and have multiple voter registration numbers associated with substantially the same name, birthdate, and address.
‘Guided Tour’
While legal teams in Nevada that sought inspection of the voting machines and systems in Clark County saw their request granted, the Trump campaign legal team slammed the evidence they were offered as little more than a “guided tour.”
The inspection was “like trying to determine if a car had failed brakes without getting underneath the car”:
“The judge’s order allowed for an inspection. What we got was a guided tour. Machines were not usable, and we were not able to make a determination about the accuracy and integrity of the election process based on this inspection. We are entitled to a computer forensic inspection in accordance with the judge’s order. We were prevented from doing one. This was a digital election and we were not allowed a digital inspection. The “inspection” today was like trying to determine if a car had failed brakes without getting underneath the car”.
The forensic team requested the following 11 items:
Inspect the Tabulation Server;
Inspect the memory on the Agilis signature verification machine;
See a “test run” of the Agilis signature verification machine;
Inspect the memory on the “adjudicator” machines;
Inspect the USB drive for the dominion machines;
Inspect the poll books;
Inspect the memory of the Election Management Server;
Inspect the “mail ballot readers” or “ICC’s”;
Inspect the election results drives in the box from the Accuracy Certification Board;
Inspect the simulation drives in the box from the Accuracy Certification Board;
Inspect any “ballot marking devices”.
Instead, inspectors were only granted four requests: gather machine serial numbers; witness a voting receipt tabulation for just 42 votes; inspect reports from the Accuracy Certification Board; and watch a machine be powered on.
Suspicious Signatures.
The machines used by the state to certify signatures were also not operated “in conformance with the manufacturer’s recommendations in at least two respects.”
“First, the signature images on file with the State which were used by the Agilis machine to compare to the signatures on the outside of the ballot were of a lower image quality than recommended by the manufacturer in order to allow the machines to operate properly. Second, the signature matching error tolerance was set to a level of 40, 10 points lower than the manufacturer’s recommended level of 50, thus reducing the accuracy of the machine immensely,” the report notes.
In addition to improper calibration and low image quality, Nevada law stipulates that “the clerk or an employee in the office of the county clerk shall check the signature used for the mail ballot in accordance with” detailed procedures, “which do not include relying on software to verify matching signatures.”
Despite this, Agilis machines independently verified 30% of the signatures without ever having human eyes inspect those signatures.
The hearing began on Thursday December 3rd at 1:30pm PST at the First Judicial District Court.
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...you see???
There is no evidence what-so-ever of vote fraud...
Commie boy said so and that proves it.
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/firm-that-conducted-audit-of-georgia-voting-machines-has-long-history-with-dominion_3604466.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-12-04
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/4/arizona-legislature-demands-forensic-exam-dominion/
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So the media is desperately trying to convince everyone that hundreds upon hundreds of sworn affidavits are not proof and are not credible.
I'm old enough to remember the confirmation of Justice Kavanaugh in which a person named Christine Blassey Ford came forward and submitted a statement, not a sworn affidavit, that alleged wrong doing 30+ years ago in which she couldn't remember details and could not get witnesses to corroborate her statement, yet that statement put into jeopardy the career of Justice Kavanaugh as well as prompted the FBI to investigate.
Now with sworn affidavits, videos and expert witnesses among other things, on a crime that happened a month ago, no one in law enforcement wants to investigate because they are politically afraid.
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Thousands of people have come forward and sworn under oath and penalty of perjury of what they witnessed as to the corruption.
We've yet to see one progressive under oath and penalty of perjury refute those claims.
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That’s my rep! ;D
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https://www.independentsentinel.com/suspicious-link-found-between-nv-election-system-pakistani-intelligence/
https://truethevote.org/wp-content/uploads/120320-DOJ-press-1.pdf
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I love that bill title.... you must be alive to vote act...
awesome.
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Not finding anything on the news services to substantiate this.
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Cant vouch for any of these sites, but I used the duck to search for "Ware County Georgia Dominion" and got a bunch of results. These are just the first three.
Incredible! :) :) :)
https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/12/04/ware-county-georgia-dominion-machines-found-that-were-switching-votes-from-trump-to-biden/
https://iotwreport.com/ware-county-ga-has-broken-the-dominion-algorithm/
https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/12/breaking-huge-trump-team-has-dominion-machine-from-small-georgia-county-shows-votes-flipped-from-trump-to-biden/
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I forget which one of the above links I was reading, but the twitter link posted a disclaimer about it being disputed.
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The Ware County Election Board itself posted the 37 vote discrepancy on their Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/WareCountyBoardofElectionsAndRegistration/?hc_ref=ARTI7aCimdFnq-sAVWWRpSHR7nsaKosVl5DGj21DRSqtlkqnN6DZpCwUbZGHu4ESJZk&fref=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARCNmx0G8VwsTcvKHy92NsImkB4Cm_EXKAcf41R-jB6CuS4oxdrHSwnyrb0s6E13CJ6FLOAqg3UktA1dDy99bbWQTwekJHfDHJSput8c2zby4d9zzUsRCutNUPfpXhVP-NwX3_QSjdydS8okfxoXrvVgA0HGs7VwVxn4k0fvIefzLKWhlu8OS7HRRXwMpsWodt9XirpfDGM7szThDOnn68VOJWcMj36n21FM053wwOIRaYsYHT32XfZ8ObWFFRLOWgpYTBRxvVDlHjet2aYjMkCeqBmNK7mqsXuC60_eFNrKEA0DWchT3p2MQ4fF2nCou9Xu_ClWFIfcnuCasVf5J2Q&__tn__=kC-R
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This guy claims he reverse engineered the machine:
I haven’t watched the whole thing yet.
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https://mediarightnews.com/georgia-state-legislators-call-for-do-or-die-special-session-on-december-8/
Members of the Georgia State Legislature have introduced a petition for a special session on Tuesday, December 8th. However, the Georgia Secretary of State said, “we don’t see anything that would overturn the will of the people.” You can see the Tweet below with this report coming from Disclose.tv on Twitter.
Some may see this as good news as the Trump legal team will have an opportunity to continue to make their case to the legislature and the people. Some on the right have said that the Trump legal team has presented plenty of evidence already and have demonstrated that voter fraud did occur.
Meanwhile, Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger seems to be digging himself in a deeper hole pertaining to his chance at re-election in the future. The President did go after both him and the Georgia Governor last night in his speech.
With the Georgia state legislature being under Republican control the Trump campaign may be able to make progress in their legal fight. The president seems to not just be battling with the Democratic Party but with some members of the GOP. The Georgia Secretary of State looks like he is fighting against the President.
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https://creativedestructionmedia.com/investigations/2020/12/06/trump-forensics-team-in-antrim-county-courthouse-at-9am-cst-examining-machines-group-reportedly-directed-by-general-flynn/
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Check the date on this, it was debated in 2019
https://thepostmillennial.com/video-of-ga-senate-democrats-chairwoman-discussing-voter-machine-hacking-reuploaded-over-it-was-taken-down
A striking 2019 video of Georgia Senate Democrats chairwoman Elena Parent discussing vote machine hacking has resurfaced after reportedly being made private by the Georgia Senate.
The chairwoman lays down an argument against the stat of Georgia signing a contract with ballot counting machine vendors, citing the high cost and fallability of the machines.
"I've done my own homework, and what I have found is deeply troubling," Parent said.
"So even if you think that the machines can't be hacked and all the votes are fairly counted, we still need the people of Georgia to believe in the process, and right now they are unconvinced," she continued
She explains that the voting machines are not secure and advocates instead for a human marked and human processed ballot voting system.
"The machines are not secure. The consensus of cyber security experts and computer scientists and our nation's premier national academy of sciences engineering and medicine state that the best voting technology that is available is hand marked paper ballots with a human readable ballot marking device available for disabled voters," she stated to the legislature.
She goes on to quote a study from the National Academy of Sciences which said, "unless a voter takes notes while voting bmds that print only selections with abbreviated names and descriptions of the contest are virtually unusable for verifying voter intent."
The study continues, "the difficulty and unlikelihood of voters verifying any bmd produced ballot has prompted calls for hand marked ballots whenever possible."
Parent goes on to explain further issues with voting machines, such as the fact that they are un-auditable and cannot be used to verify voter intent due to the second-hand recording of voter intent with the machine's interface.
She also goes on to explain concerns with the machine's vulnerability to malware interference
The channel who reposted the video of Parent's arguments against the use of voting machines, called "Dick Spencer," claims that the Georgia Senate made the video private on their platform so it could not be viewed.
"The GA Senate privated this video, but it seems like it should be public," the video description reads.
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Check the date on this, it was debated in 2019
https://thepostmillennial.com/video-of-ga-senate-democrats-chairwoman-discussing-voter-machine-hacking-reuploaded-over-it-was-taken-down
This video needs to be entered as evidence in the courts. Just wow! She predicted all of this.
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Allegations "that cannot be ignored"?
Really?
they are most certainly being ignored...
"deny" is the new mantra of the self-declared "enlightened"
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/06/report-fbi-raided-maricopia-county-residence-to-retrieve-evidence-of-cyber-intrusion-into-voting-systems/
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https://noqreport.com/2020/12/06/ware-county-tested-dominion-tabulators-equal-number-of-votes-yielded-26-lead-for-joe-biden/
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see... it's pre-ordained!!
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The whole Ware County things is very confusing. One story says that an audit of the Nov 4th results showed and 37 vote difference between Biden and Trump, yet the Robb Hurst story claims a test run was done recently using an identical number of votes for Biden and Trump which showed a 37 vote difference.
It can't be both.
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https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/a-test-holy-cow-ware-county-ga-ran-same-number-of-trump-and-biden-voters-to-test-dominion-system-biden-came-out-ahead-by-26-what/
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https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/12/pennsylvania-dont-assume-alito-giving-until-12-9-to-respond-to-emergency-application-means-hes-letting-it-die-on-the-vine/
UPDATE 12/6: Pennsylvania: Alito Moves Up Response Date on Emergency Application To 12/8
Prior Coverage:
On December 1, 2020, we covered an emergency application for injunctive relief sought to halt any further actions by Pennsylvania to certify the election, Pennsylvania: Emergency Injunction Sought From SCOTUS To Halt Any Further Certification Actions.
See that post for background on the case, and my admittedly pessimistic assessment.
Another Emergency Application, substantially similar, was filed yesterday, December 3. That made no sense to me, why would they file twice?
I spoke to an attorney handling the case, and the explanation is that the first filing took place prior to a stay being sought from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which issued the decision at issue. Out of concern that the US Supreme Court might deny the stay on the procedural ground that a request had not been made to the state court, the attorneys waited for the PA Supreme Court predictably to deny the stay, and then refiled on December 3.
According to the Supreme Court docket, Justice Alito, who covers the Third Circuit, gave Pennsylvania and the other Respondents until next Wednesday to file responses.
Response to application (20A98) requested by Justice Alito, due Wednesday, December 9, by 4 p.m.
There is a lot of chatter that such a long period of time, under the circumstances, must be a way for Alito to let the application die on the vine, that the application would be “moot” or otherwise pushing it off to make meaningful relief impossible. Certainly, we can’t read Alito’s mind, but if there’s anyone on SCOTUS I don’t worry about playing such games, it’s Alito (and Thomas, too early to tell for Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, or Barrett).
In my mind-reading exercise, Alito giving the respondents’ enough time to fully prepare opposition likely means he and some other Justices take the matter seriously, and plan to rule on the merits once the opposition is submitted, rather than limiting their ruling to emergency injunctive relief. They could treat the Emergency Application as a Petition for Certiorari, accept it, and rule substantively. The few days gives the Justice enough time to prepare their respective opinions — it’s not like they really need briefs from the respondents to know the counter-arguments.
What that ultimate merits ruling would be remains to be seen. In my prior post, I was very pessimistic that SCOTUS would take the case or rule in a way that would change the state result. That’s not to say that what the PA Supreme Court did was right — it wasn’t and that PA Court has acted more like a litigant throughout this process. Mark Levin’s Landmark Legal Foundation has filed an Amicus Brief laying out the defects with the PA Supreme Court ruling.
The issue I keep coming back to is what is the remedy. SCOTUS could rule that the non-absentee mail-in votes were unlawful, and order that PA certify the vote and appoint electors based on the lawful vote only. That seems to be the only remedy to grant relief that works under the timeline for selecting the electoral college. (Denying the Application of course also is a possiblity.) Kicking the matter over the the PA legislature to select electors could be an alternative though less timely, but again, it would require disqualifying the mail-in vote as unlawful.
Would SCOTUS take such a step? It would mean that millions of voters who honestly thought they were lawfully voting would not have their votes counted. Don’t think for a second that the Justices don’t understand the political implications or are not sensitive to them.
I think we’ll find out one way or the other, but I don’t think Justice Alito is playing games to allow the case to die on the vine.
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https://georgiastarnews.com/2020/12/05/dekalb-county-cannot-find-chain-of-custody-records-for-absentee-ballots-deposited-in-drop-boxes-it-has-not-been-determined-if-responsive-records-to-your-request-exist/
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Explains a lot
https://davidharrisjr.com/kari/breaking-video-of-brian-kemp-in-front-of-communist-flag-talking-about-business/
(https://davidharrisjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/China-.jpg)
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Nothing to see here..............
But she now needs a lawyer.
https://nationalfile.com/this-is-bigger-than-me-georgias-ruby-freeman-lawyers-up-cancels-tv-interview/
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/07/no-the-georgia-vote-counting-video-was-not-debunked-not-even-close/
A Big Tech-backed “fact” “checking” outfit claimed to debunk explosive evidence (https://www.cbs46.com/news/lawmakers-hear-bombshell-allegations-of-georgia-election-fraud/article_8404e930-35e5-11eb-8ac3-1fc96e3b52d8.html) in support of Republicans’ claims of significant election problems at a Thursday Georgia Senate hearing. It didn’t. Not even close.
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Election in Georgia has been certified again for Biden.
It is not likely to change no matter what. The SOS is the guy that made the deal with Dominion for the voting machines. I see it unlikely he would ever admit there was a problem with those machines causing a reversal of the certification.
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Election in Georgia has been certified again for Biden.
It is not likely to change no matter what. The SOS is the guy that made the deal with Dominion for the voting machines. I see it unlikely he would ever admit there was a problem with those machines causing a reversal of the certification.
The citizens of GA must burn it down. Their elected government is rubbing their noses in the corruption while telling them "tough shit!" and then will expect the same citizens will be back in 2022 to vote for them again.
The executive branch of GA has gone rogue. There are remedies to correct this. The legislature also must step up for their constituents.
Next step is the USSC. If the SC doesn't demand the states follow the constitution, then we are headed to becoming a banana republic.
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The citizens of GA must burn it down. ...
are you taking your cue from peace-loving BLM?
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are you taking your cue from peace-loving BLM?
It's a figure of speech ::)
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https://twitter.com/anonpatriotq/status/1336016847888592903
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It's a figure of speech ::)
ah... of course. I gorfot...
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https://therightscoop.com/breaking-ted-cruz-to-argue-the-pennsylvania-election-case-before-the-supreme-court/
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Congressman Paul Gosar’s Open Letter to Arizona: Are We Witnessing a Coup d’etat?
by Rep. Paul Gosar
As I write this, I am in our nation’s Capital attending to legislative business, but I remain focused on what is happening in our country regarding our election.
In 2016, then candidate Donald Trump fell victim to a heinous crime that had never before been committed in the history of our country. The outgoing Obama administration weaponized our Department of Justice and FBI to unlawfully spy on their political opponent. They falsified information and crafted a ridiculous narrative around a Russia hoax that would be used as the basis to pursue a sham investigation. That disgraceful investigation became a Sword of Damocles throughout the majority of President Trump’s Presidency.
Before President Trump was even sworn in, Democrat Leftists swore an oath to remove him by any means they could. Official calls to impeach him came before he was even sworn in. At the conclusion of the Russia investigation, they cherry picked a phone call the President had with Ukraine to pursue a farcical impeachment. They failed. They lied about our President every day for four years. Having failed everywhere else, they brazenly engaged in systemic voter fraud and are trying to steal this election. They did it right in front of us with no shame.
For months Joe Biden hid while they carefully planned. The “fact-checkers” became more bold — removing reports and slapping “this claim is disputed” labels on anything that might bruise Joe Biden. For weeks leading up to Election Day, we were told to expect Trump to win big on election night but that in the days that followed, Biden would overtake any lead as mail-in ballots were counted. On election night as votes poured in overwhelmingly for President Trump, Joe Biden told supporters to “Keep the Faith” and “We believe we are on track to win this.” The next morning, we all awoke to see massive, statistically impossible spikes in votes for Joe Biden and almost zero for President Trump. Are we witnessing a coup d’etat?
We will not tolerate this.
As many of you know, I helped organize the very first “Stop the Steal” rally in Arizona right after it became clear that voting patterns emerged that could not occur in the absence of fraud. Patriotic warriors joined together to gather evidence and tell the Left we will not accept a coup and a usurper in the White House.
We all remember when candidate Joe Biden held a rally in downtown Phoenix and precisely zero people attended. Nada. Zilch. It was a clear reflection of the utter lack of popular support in Arizona for Biden. Conversely, President Trump held rallies in Yuma, Bullhead City, Prescott, and several other places and 30,000 people showed up in person on 48 hours notice while millions of others watched online. You could not look out your window without seeing patriots waving flags and declaring their support for President Trump. I travel extensively all over this state. I saw 2 maybe 3 signs for Biden between Yuma and Mohave Counties. Otherwise Arizona was a sea of MAGA 2020.
In short, from the pre-election polls, to Election Day, to voter enthusiasm, and to the extreme turnout for Republicans statewide, where every contested down ballot race was won by Republicans (with the notable exception of Martha McSally), it was apparent that Trump would win, and indeed did win, Arizona. It was not even close.
I attended a legislative hearing on Monday and listened to two expert witnesses familiar with Dominion voting software and voting patterns. They both testified that the Arizona results, particularly in Maricopa County, were altered to take votes from President Trump and give them to Biden. Perhaps one of the more damning testimonies came from Dr. Shiva who presented data showing that based upon demographic distribution of Party affiliations, the only way for Biden to have statistically caught up with Donald Trump was if Democrat votes came in at 130% for Biden and -30% for Trump.
A recent hand count of a random sampling of ballots, ordered by a superior court judge, determined that 3% of the votes in Maricopa County were fraudulently recorded against President Trump and in favor of Biden. Considering that Biden supposedly “won” by .06%, this theft of votes is more than enough to put Arizona in President Trump’s column and restore his lawful and rightful victory.
We can never accept the results of fraud. Our right to vote includes the right to a fair vote count. I will fight to restore the rightful victor, President Trump. Our Constitution, our Republic and our nation demand election integrity. We are not giving up. The President has not conceded and will not concede to a Third World coup d’etat. We have a constitutional republic, not a banana republic.
Please stay strong and pray for our country and the true President of the United States. Be ready to defend the Constitution and the White House.
Paul Anthony Gosar has served as the United States Representative for Arizona’s 4th congressional district since 2013.
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https://therightscoop.com/breaking-ted-cruz-to-argue-the-pennsylvania-election-case-before-the-supreme-court/
Bold move! High stakes gamble for a politician. I wonder if a separation of powers question could arise. Can a Senator take off his senate hat to argue as a lawyer and private citizen? Can’t wait to find out!
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Bold move! High stakes gamble for a politician. I wonder if a separation of powers question could arise. Can a Senator take off his senate hat to argue as a lawyer and private citizen? Can’t wait to find out!
The case involves PA congressional candidates and questions the election laws of PA, so I don't see why Cruz could not argue it.
Here is Levin explaining the lawsuit:
https://twitter.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1335784552745332737
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-texas-files-election-lawsuit-against-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court/
The State of Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court shortly before midnight on Monday challenging the election procedures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin on the grounds that they violate the Constitution.
Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were “voting irregularities” in these states as a result of the above.
Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors.
“Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.”
“This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.”
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Does Texas have standing?
(IANAL, IDPOOT, IDSAAHILN)
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Does Texas have standing?
(IANAL, IDPOOT, IDSAAHILN)
Yes they do, as the other states of the union.
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Does Texas have standing?
(IANAL, IDPOOT, IDSAAHILN)
IANAL = I am not a lawyer? What are the other two?
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/sidney-powell-we-should-have-at-least-3-states-before-the-supreme-court-by-the-end-of-the-week/
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/sidney-powell-we-should-have-at-least-3-states-before-the-supreme-court-by-the-end-of-the-week/
Reading the comments is interesting.
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Reading the comments is interesting.
Yep. But keep in mind there is a concerted effort to place disinformation in these comments on stories. Proceed with caution.
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IANAL = I am not a lawyer? What are the other two?
I don't play one on TV
I didn't stay at a holiday inn last night
:-)
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The Texas lawsuit filed with the SC
https://www.scribd.com/document/487348469/TX-v-State-Motion-2020-12-07-FINAL#from_embed
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Brief: The end around case has been put together by TX AG Ken Paxton suing GA, MI, WI, and PA at SCOTUS. Bringing this case across multiple jurisdictions gives it a straight lane to the SCOTUS.
This happened at 11:59 last night.
Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states, this is hard tactics.
We, Texas are arguing that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures.
These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution.
Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause. Bush v. Gore 2000.
Finally, Texas argues that there were "voting irregularities" in these states as a result of these changes.
Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. If this is successful it opens the door for the next step.
The genius behind this is they don't have to prove fraud, there's no doubt there are "election irregularities" all that has to be proven is that they changed election laws by executive order and not by legislation as required by the US Constitution. Article II, Section 1 Clause 2.
All these Governors and Sec of States making these changes out in the open make the case pretty clear.
The Defense is going to claim it was a COVID Pandemic, mark my words, it's all they got, it was their excuse for everything in every state.
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I don't play one on TV
I didn't stay at a holiday inn last night
:-)
Ah! Thanks!
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https://twitter.com/DemandDanielAZ/status/1336157992505335810
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https://twitter.com/DemandDanielAZ/status/1336157992505335810
Is this first officially contested state?
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Is this first officially contested state?
Depends on how one looks at it. In reality, there are 6 states that are contested due to pending litigation. The dipshit governors and SoS in these states have tried to force the issue by certifying the elections disregarding the litigation. In a real, fair and legal world they would have withheld certification until the litigation was cleared.
Hopefully when the dust settles after all of this some real serious election reform happens in these states, including provisions not to certify under dubious circumstances.
The Texas lawsuit is a huge game changer today, and hopefully more of the free states will enjoin them.
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Depends on how one looks at it. In reality, there are 6 states that are contested due to pending litigation. The dipshit governors and SoS in these states have tried to force the issue by certifying the elections disregarding the litigation. In a real, fair and legal world they would have withheld certification until the litigation was cleared.
Hopefully when the dust settles after all of this some real serious election reform happens in these states, including provisions not to certify under dubious circumstances.
The Texas lawsuit is a huge game changer today, and hopefully more of the free states will enjoin them.
I meant officially contested by the legislature, not various court cases. The legislatures being the ones empowered to have the final word in elector selection, I would think this is a good sign.
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I meant officially contested by the legislature, not various court cases. The legislatures being the ones empowered to have the final word in elector selection, I would think this is a good sign.
There's a power struggle going on as these executive's are trying to commandeer the process and wrestle it away from the legislatures.
This must be answered in the Supreme Court. See Pennsylvania's response filed today in the Supreme Court, which is indicative of how week their defense is.
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Supremes declined the PA case.
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Supremes declined the PA case.
More precisely, they declined the PA case brought by Sean Parnell and Mike Kelly. They were seeking injunctive relief.
The Texas case (which has been accepted and is on the docket) is a much cleaner case, and gets to the heart of the matter with regards to how these states violated laws and the constitution. The Texas case will carry greater weight and be more reaching. This is the case to watch.
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Louisiana has now joined Texas in the SC lawsuit.
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https://twitter.com/ali/status/1336442519677251587
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https://mobile.twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1336483137237504000
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/jay-sekulow-this-is-the-one-this-is-the-case-weve-been-waiting-for/
“What is at stake here, and this is why I think out of all the cases this is the most significant – to be clear, there’s no doubt about it – this is the most significant of the cases that has been filed. It’s the most significant because it is completely outcome determinative. What does that mean? It means that if the Court were to rule in favor of Texas, those four states, the states named in the complaint, would in in fact have their state legislatures determine the outcome. They would pick the electors.
This is a lawsuit, of course, against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. It is original jurisdiction which means it doesn’t start at the district court level. It starts at the Supreme Court of the United States where it was lodged yesterday evening very, very late; actually by the time it was lodged, probably this morning. It’s a very significant piece of litigation, in my mind, this is the one.”
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Been watching this video....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PchtaUsRH70&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PchtaUsRH70&feature=youtu.be)
I have questions. He shows for frames, four different view of the same room. They talk about this taking place around 1:00 am, yet the timestamps on the video seem to show it around 11:00 pm. I notice in two of the frames the timestamp is not changing. I would like to see the entire video myself. Haven't been able to find it as yet.
I do wonder why those four boxes were kept under the table with the table cover on it. Supposedly the whole video would show these boxes being brought in at 8:30 am as he states. The frames show this is after 11:00 pm on election night 11/3. go to around the 10:30 mark in the video and notice that three frames (upper two and lower left) the timestamps are changing, yet in the lower right (the view of the alleged observer area) the time stamp is not changing. To me, that would void the argument if that timestamp never changes.
If anyone can find the whole video, I'd like to watch it.
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https://nationalfile.com/georgia-fulton-county-wont-provide-chain-of-custody-for-mail-in-ballots-until-january-19-2021/
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https://mailchi.mp/03a84530fbcc/for-immediate-release
The Georgia Senate Republicans have heard the calls of millions of Georgians who have raised deep and heartfelt concerns that state law has been violated and our elections process abused in our November 3, 2020 elections. We will fix this.
Our state constitution precludes us from calling a special session due to the lack of a three-fifths majority in both chambers. As constitutionalists, we must respect that. Even if we could secure the requisite numbers to convene, our laws provide no avenue for us to retroactively alter the results from November 3, 2020. However, an avenue to move this matter even quicker than special session now exists and is pending before the United States Supreme Court.
As the upper chamber of the General Assembly and consistent with our prerogatives for legislative oversight:
We are calling upon the elections officials to engage the GBI to investigate any and all fraudulent activities, including those which were brought to light during Senate committee hearings on December 3, 2020.
We insist that all counties immediately preserve all data from the November 3, 2020 General Election in order to conduct a forensic audit. We also call on these counties to perform a signature audit. We call on the State Elections Board to oversee and monitor that closely.
We will continue to conduct public hearings up to and through January 5, 2021 to ensure that fraud and misconduct do not taint the next election.
We will fully fund the Secretary of State’s call to investigate out-of-state residents who attempt to move here for the sole purpose of voting in our run-off. We will make sure that these criminals are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
We call upon the Secretary of State to immediately release a certified list of all voters in the November 3, 2020 General Election and a certified list of all newly registered voters in Georgia from October 5-December 7, 2020.
As soon as we may constitutionally convene, we will pass legislation to reverse the detrimental effects of the consent decree which was entered into in March 2020.
As soon as we may constitutionally convene, we will reform our election laws to secure our electoral process by eliminating at-will absentee voting. We will require photo identification for absentee voting for cause, and we will crack down on ballot harvesting by outlawing drop boxes.
Posterity and legitimacy of our Republic – guaranteed to us by our Constitution – require no less than our diligence, our time, and our utmost attention. Do not fall prey to the ploys of the Left, who would have you stay home and not exercise your right to vote on January 5, 2021. We cannot protect the Republic without you. Join the Senate Republican Caucus to ensure we get every possible legal vote cast in the run-off election. An overwhelming victory for our Senators and our Public Service Commissioner on January 5, 2021 will send a strong message!
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I meant officially contested by the legislature, not various court cases. The legislatures being the ones empowered to have the final word in elector selection, I would think this is a good sign.
If legislatures wanted to do that, they are empowered to. But they have chosen not to, I believe rightfully out of fear of how future legislatures (controlled by Them) would use that power.
Always remember that you're building a system you have to live under too. Socialist patsies are ignorant of that, but we are better than that...right?
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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/how_to_steal_an_entire_country.html
December 9, 2020
How to Steal an Entire Country
By Donald Finley
It's been over a month since the election, and all is not well in Mudville. The home team fights round the clock to prove that the challenger cheated, and the challenger makes no effort to calm fears or address concerns — just continues naming cronies and planning not just to take over the ballpark, but to change the rules for the entire sport.
For those who care, the internet still exists, and there are more sites than Twitter, Facebook and news services out there where the truth actually matters. So why does anyone have to search for the truth? Investigations and impeachments have been blasted forcefully into our faces for years, thanks to the author of the MSM's Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs), Joseph Goebbels, of Third Reich fame, who said, "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly — it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. ... A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth." It appears he also wrote the SOPs for Facebook, one of which is clearly "propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will."
Now, all across the MSM, Biden's "victory" consequences are given the fait accompli treatment. We should all just behave and accept reality. It sounds and reads like this: "Trump is baselessly contesting the results." "Trump campaign court cases have been thrown out due to baseless claims." All the "doing" is from the Trump side, and it's wasting everyone's time. The Democrats haven't done a thing, obviously. They are the innocent victims, once again, of Trump's craziness. "Meanwhile, President-Elect Biden saw his shadow again today."
There is nothing baseless about what happened. It's clear the Democrats planned this for quite some time, focusing on the battleground states, and centrally synchronizing and executing their Transition Integrity Project war-gamed plan. They prepped the battlefield with lawsuits all across the country to remove any teeth in election laws, thus making the commission of fraud much easier and its discovery much harder. And here is what they did. And here. And here. And here. More here. Just check it out. I recommend getting a head start and caring now; otherwise, it will be a big shock when you care later, and you will certainly care later.
So there's a growing mountain of evidence that President Trump was re-elected. If the election had been conducted according to existing laws, there would be no question. If only legal ballots were counted, there would be no question. If the Democrats hadn't fabricated so many illegal votes, there would be no question. But there is a question, and it's this: how are we going to make this right? This is no conspiracy theory; it's a real conspiracy, across many states, involving the highest levels of Democrat elected officials, down to hapless election volunteers just following directions. It was a conspiracy to steal the federal election for Joe Biden or, in other words, to remove Donald Trump from office, something Democrats have been openly trying to do for at least four years.
All the guilty Democrats believe that if they act the propaganda out, it will actually happen. Why don't they call for transparency? Because they don't want it. It will expose them for what they are. Don't they want to eliminate the cloud of illegitimacy in the election? No, because they built it; it's about power, not legitimacy. What about their reputations in being associated with a fraudulent election? They don't care what we think of them; they want their shot at wielding power and getting rich from taxpayer dollars, book deals, and speaking fees. There is no MAGA in what the Democrats did, nor in what they plan to do. If they are allowed to do it, there will be no America left to make great.
Like the home title theft commercials, this is entire country and cultural theft. Every MAGA policy will be reversed if Biden is allowed to take the Oval Office. He will make America weak again, dependent upon others again, full of Made in China again, and friends to jihadists again — it'll be Obama II, the narcissistic pronoun president again. "I," "Me," and "My" will dominate every speech again, which will repeatedly lecture to us, "That's not who we are," as something we absolutely are is insulted in favor of some more egalitarian socialist-globalist replacement. Under a Democrat administration, "we" real Americans who love "our" nation and don't want "our" prosperity given to China so Hunter Biden can get rich again will slowly watch "our" Constitution, freedom, history, democracy, tradition, and independence chip away.
Because the Democrats are so self-centered, they have framed the governance of the U.S. as them versus Donald Trump. They have fought everything Trump because he has fought their corruption with his promise to "Drain the Swamp." But this is much bigger than Donald Trump, and he has openly said so. It's not whether he wins or loses this election; it's whether the U.S. ever again holds a free and fair election. To the Democrats, it's "Donald Trump's investigations can destroy many of us in the next four years and we'll never win another election" versus "Donald Trump goes away, and so do his investigations of Democrat crimes (and as a bonus, Joe Biden will let us do whatever we want and we'll ensure we never again lose an election)." In framing it in such a way, the Democrats' thirst for power at all costs created the circumstances whereby they couldn't succeed without doing grave damage to the country. That's where we are, with our election system shattered, void of the electorate's trust, and those who did the damage potentially and ironically poised as the only ones who can fix it. The epitome of "the fix is in."
In the end, it comes down to this: what does it mean to have right versus wrong, corrupt versus honest, truth versus lies, fair versus stolen all work out backwards? The last place on Earth the rest of the world would have thought that possible is right here. "Our" America. Abraham Lincoln said, "We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth." He was talking about slavery, an evil that needed to be purged from our nation, lest we lose our nation altogether.
There are many evils, but today the foremost evil we must address is the Democrat party's corruption of our national election. We all know what happened, and what the right thing is. We need to fix it. Now. The details and the prison terms can be figured out later.
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1585 pages outlining significant evidence of fraud.
https://twitter.com/jennybethm/status/1336531926484570112
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https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1336506935982624768
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https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-texas-lawsuit-election/2020/12/09/id/1000698/
President Donald Trump on Wednesday vowed to intervene in a case brought by the state of Texas before the U.S. Supreme Court to throw out the voting results in four other states.
Trump, writing on Twitter, said: "We will be INTERVENING in the Texas (plus many other states) case. This is the big one. Our Country needs a victory!"
He did not specify whether it would be his presidential campaign or the Justice Department that would intervene.
He also played down, in a separate tweet, a case filed against Pennsylvania's election results in which the Supreme Court rejected a emergency action:
"This was not my case as has been so incorrectly reported. The case that everyone has been waiting for is the State’s case with Texas and numerous others joining. It is very strong, ALL CRITERIA MET. How can you have a presidency when a vast majority think the election was RIGGED?"
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17 States now enjoined with Texas
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I’m so proud of my adopted state leading this fight.
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https://twitter.com/themodalice/status/1336688579003572224?s=20 (https://twitter.com/themodalice/status/1336688579003572224?s=20)
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https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1336858904823783427?s=20
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https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1336858904823783427?s=20
What’s going on here? She scans a blank ballot and she is able to make it count as whatever vote she puts on it once it’s in the machine?
Wow. We need to go back to paper ballots only.
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What’s going on here? She scans a blank ballot and she is able to make it count as whatever vote she puts on it once it’s in the machine?
Wow. We need to go back to paper ballots only.
Here's more of the "non evidence" on electronic voting, with regards to Dominion and Smartmatic.
There's a reason the blue states and people like Gov Kemp flocked to award contracts to Dominion. Dominion has been plagued with problems and it's very history should concern anyone who desires free and fair elections.
The experts that have examined the Dominion machines have pointed in in very detailed analysis of how these machines can be manipulated. Those facts are incontrovertible.
We need to go to a paper ballot system. One ballot per voter. Voter must present ID to be issued a ballot. Absentee ballots only for special cases (military, etc). Make ballot harvesting illegal. Furthermore, each state that desires free and fair elections must clean up their voter roles.
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What’s going on here? She scans a blank ballot and she is able to make it count as whatever vote she puts on it once it’s in the machine?
Wow. We need to go back to paper ballots only.
Not only that but she could take any ballot and change the intent.
There should not be any way of changing any ballot with this system.
I would think that in an audit these types of things would be caught, but do not know that for sure.
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Here in Georgia we have talk show host Erick Erickson. He always claims to be a Conservative and made it sound like he was in favor of Trump. However, back in the 2016 election cycle he had invited Trump to a conference. Then Trump made his famous comment about Megyn Kelley and he got uninvited and Erickson railed about Trump and how bad a person he was.
Fast forward, on Twitter we see Megyn Kelley backing Trump and Erickson beating down anything posted against Kemp or Raffensberger.
It is quite interesting to see who truly supports Trump and who can't wait to be rid of him in favor of Biden, a true politician.
As an aside to all of this, Erickson had a sponsor to his show locally. Actually he does two shows, one from 9:00 - noon on Georgia stations and he is the afternoon guy at WSB radio in Atlanta from 4:00 - 6:00. The sponsor was Chris Burns, a financial guy. Erickson would have him on every day and talk about finances and the latest COVID info. Erickson would proudly tout Burns as his personal financial manager. Then this happened https://stopbrokerfraud.com/2020/10/14/chris-burns/ (https://stopbrokerfraud.com/2020/10/14/chris-burns/)
I usually take every opportunity to comment on many of Erickson's Tweets to be sure and not take financial advice from Erickson.
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Here in Georgia we have talk show host Erick Erickson. He always claims to be a Conservative and made it sound like he was in favor of Trump. However, back in the 2016 election cycle he had invited Trump to a conference. Then Trump made his famous comment about Megyn Kelley and he got uninvited and Erickson railed about Trump and how bad a person he was.
Fast forward, on Twitter we see Megyn Kelley backing Trump and Erickson beating down anything posted against Kemp or Raffensberger.
It is quite interesting to see who truly supports Trump and who can't wait to be rid of him in favor of Biden, a true politician.
As an aside to all of this, Erickson had a sponsor to his show locally. Actually he does two shows, one from 9:00 - noon on Georgia stations and he is the afternoon guy at WSB radio in Atlanta from 4:00 - 6:00. The sponsor was Chris Burns, a financial guy. Erickson would have him on every day and talk about finances and the latest COVID info. Erickson would proudly tout Burns as his personal financial manager. Then this happened https://stopbrokerfraud.com/2020/10/14/chris-burns/ (https://stopbrokerfraud.com/2020/10/14/chris-burns/)
I usually take every opportunity to comment on many of Erickson's Tweets to be sure and not take financial advice from Erickson.
Another true, 'good' democrat communist...
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Not only that but she could take any ballot and change the intent.
There should not be any way of changing any ballot with this system.
I would think that in an audit these types of things would be caught, but do not know that for sure.
In the case of a paper ballot with unclear intent, the paper ballot should be discarded or a team of two, one from each major party should agree on the intent. Or would that disenfranchise third parties? It shocking to think a single person could set a ballot with a click on a screen.
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163367/20201210142206254_Pennsylvania%20Opp%20to%20Bill%20of%20Complaint%20v.FINAL.pdf
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163367/20201210142206254_Pennsylvania%20Opp%20to%20Bill%20of%20Complaint%20v.FINAL.pdf
Is 220155 the docket number? Or does it not get a docket number until the SC agrees to hear the case? I can’t figure out how to do a search for documents related to the case by just going to supreme court.gov.
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Is 220155 the docket number? Or does it not get a docket number until the SC agrees to hear the case? I can’t figure out how to do a search for documents related to the case by just going to supreme court.gov.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22o155.html
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22o155.html
I just read Ohio’s brief. They don’t support Texas, using the Federalism argument. I hope they make the same argument when they turn down state Covid aid in the next Covid legislation.
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22o155.html
How did you do that? Here's what happens when I search. I did it with the circular thing both a letter and a number:
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How did you do that? Here's what happens when I search. I did it with the circular thing both a letter and a number:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22o155.html
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22o155.html
Did you put 22o155 into the search box to get that? I mean thanks for the link but I want to know why I can’t pull it up from scratch.
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https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1337135543373733889
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Did you put 22o155 into the search box to get that? I mean thanks for the link but I want to know why I can’t pull it up from scratch.
No, I searched Texas vs Pennsylvania
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https://nationalfile.com/update-21-states-now-support-texas-scotus-lawsuit-42-of-america-to-sue-8-of-america/
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163403/20201210153048641_Texas%20v.%20Pennsylvania%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20106%20Representatives.pdf
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The following Pennsylvania State Senators, being a majority of all Republican members of the Senate, join this brief in full: 1 Jake Corman, Kim Ward, Douglas V. Mastriano, Robert Mensch, Wayne Langerholc, Jr., David G. Argall, Scott E. Hutchinson, Scott F. Martin, Kristin Phillips-Hill, Michele Brooks, Camera Bartolotta, Judy Ward, Ryan P. Aument, Pat Stefano, Michael R. Regan, Dave Arnold, Mario Scavello, John DiSanto, Joe Pittman, Daniel Laughlin, Patrick M. Browne, Gene Yaw, John R. Gordner, Devlin Robinson
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163372/20201210143813616_PA%20Senate%20Amicus%20Brief%20Main%20Document.pdf
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163389/20201210145527909_Motion%20and%20Brief%20House%20Leaders%20SCOTUS%20Amicus%20Texas%20v%20Pa%20et%20al.pdf
INTERESTS OF AMICI CURIAE Amici curiae, Bryan Cutler, Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, and Kerry Benninghoff, Majority Leader of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives (the “House Leaders”), have a strong interest in the outcome of this case, and in the underlying issues raised being carefully considered by this Court. The House Leaders, as leaders of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, one of the two coequal houses of the Pennsylvania legislative branch, have been heavily involved in the implementation of election policy and procedures in the Commonwealth, pursuant to the powers granted to the General Assembly under the federal and state Constitutions.
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No, I searched Texas vs Pennsylvania
I search that and came up with 500 things none of which were the right one at least on the first page. I must be doing it wrong. :(
I’m on page 16 of 72 and it’s still not there. Your computer must be doing something different than mine. Maybe my internal hardware was supplied by Dominion.
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My husband says Sean Hannity is having Mark Levin on tonight. I think we will watch it.
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My husband says Sean Hannity is having Mark Levin on tonight. I think we will watch it.
Levin is excellent and is great on constitutional law.
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https://hereistheevidence.com/
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https://hereistheevidence.com/
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Pennsylvania has joined the Texas lawsuit against Pennsylvania, LOL!!!
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Levin is excellent and is great on constitutional law.
He is the only person I’ve ever seen Sean not able to interrupt LOL! Not that he didn’t try.
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Literally. Nothing to see here. I keep getting "Page Unresponsive".
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Links fine for me. Give it another try. Impressive database.
https://hereistheevidence.com/
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https://noqreport.com/2020/12/11/nobodys-trying-to-overturn-the-election-were-correcting-fraudulent-results/
What happens when you combine gaslighting with begging the question? You get the ludicrous framing by Democrats and mainstream media that somehow President Trump and his allies are trying to "overturn" an election that is righteously being challenged.
The memo came down from the prince of darkness that everyone in media, Big Tech, and the Democratic Party are supposed to frame challenges to election results as attempts to “overturn” the election. This is ludicrous and disingenuous, especially when we consider the likelihood that this election was plagued by rampant voter fraud on a massive scale.
There’s a reason they’re using that word. “Overturned” is, in its very nature, a violent and often unwanted action. A car can get “overturned” in an accident. But it’s also an important word because it insinuates the election results are already determined and the perceived winner, former Vice President Joe Biden, has his name already etched onto a plaque in the Oval Office.
First and foremost, this is gaslighting. They know that tens of millions of Americans do not believe the election was fair or that the results are finalized, but they want us to believe that we’re the crazy ones for not denouncing thousands of sworn affidavits. They want us to believe our eyes are lying to us when we see clear voter fraud in videos that have been shown as evidence before state legislature hearings. Most importantly, they want us to believe that it’s a widely accepted fact that Joe Biden won the election fair and square and if we don’t, we’re delusional. It’s gaslighting in its purest form.
They’re also using a logical fallacy called “begging the question.” They’re taking the conclusion of their argument, that Joe Biden won the election, and using it as evidence to try to prove their point. It’s sort of like circular reasoning, but with a slight detour around the mountains of evidence that point to their conclusion and premise both being wrong.
In the latest episode of the NOQ Report, JD examines these topics and explains why we need to change the narrative framing from “overturn” to “correcting.” But he wasn’t all cheery about everything that’s happening. In fact, he’s not confident that the Texas lawsuit will yield the result people are expecting. It may delay the selection of electors on December 14, but it will not in and of itself sway the selection otherwise. That delay, he notes, is still extremely important and a huge win for the Trump team if it happens because it will buy time for other lawsuits that have direct evidence of voter fraud to work their way into the Supreme Court.
He noted there’s one fatal flaw in the lawsuit, the fact that they are suing only states that didn’t go for President Trump. What they’re accusing the Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia of doing are the things that were also done in other states. The difference is that the results in the four defendant states were close and went to Biden.
Do not let the left dictate the narrative. They want us to use terms like “overturn” because it insinuates sinister intent. But our true goal is for the righteous and lawful results of the election to come to light, and that would be a Trump landslide.
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https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/12/desperate-bid-smear-texas-lawsuit-daniel-greenfield/
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https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/12/desperate-bid-smear-texas-lawsuit-daniel-greenfield/
Right. All us Texas residents wanted Ken Paxton to do this so he could get out of his personal legal troubles. Not because we are FURIOUS at having our vote diluted by criminal cheaters.
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/a_little_known_clause_of_the_constitution_has_a_huge_bearing_on_the_texas_election_lawsuit.html
December 11, 2020
A little known clause of the Constitution has a huge bearing on the Texas election lawsuit
By James V. DeLong
The papers filed by Texas and its allies in Texas v. Pennsylvania do not invoke the Guarantee Clause of the Constitution: "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government" (Art IV, Sec. 4).
The clause has been mentioned rarely in Supreme Court jurisprudence and is usually consigned to the dead zone of "political questions," which means that it is for the political branches, not the courts to decide what it means.
However, a group of legislators from Idaho, Alaska, and Arizona filed an amicus brief arguing that the clause should be invoked. Defining a "republican form of government" is no more difficult than many other issues the Court has taken on, and it can always piggyback on a 1947 statement by the Supreme Court of Texas that:
It is a fundamental idea in all republican forms of government that no one can be declared elected * * *, unless he * * * receives a majority or a plurality of the legal votes cast in the election.
The clause is well suited to the present situation, in which:
As the facts alleged by the State of Texas demonstrate, the 2020 elections ... represent the antithesis of a republican form of government. An elite group of sitting Democrat officers in each of the Defendant States coordinated with the Democrat party to illegally and unconstitutionally change the rules established by the Legislatures in the Defendant States, thereby depriving the people of their states a free and fair election — the very basis of a republican form of government.
The Guarantee Clause places an obligation upon the United States to ensure that such an unlawful election not be carried to fruition. This Court is the sole forum available for the enforcement of that obligation under the circumstances faced by the nation today[.]
The idea is arresting. Given the lowly status of the Guarantee Clause, one can see why Texas would choose not to raise it, but it is a useful counter to the arguments made by the four defendants that whatever they choose to do in their elections, however corrupt, is no one else's business.
As the Guarantee Clause makes clear, state efforts to undermine republican government are indeed everyone's business.
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20-799.html
L. Lin Wood, Jr., Petitioner
v.
Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Secretary of State, et al.
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The State of Texas’s motion for leave to file a bill of complaint is denied for lack of standing under Article III of the Constitution. Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot. Statement of Justice Alito, with whom Justice Thomas joins: In my view, we do not have discretion to deny the filing of a bill of complaint in a case that falls within our original jurisdiction. See Arizona v. California, 589 U. S. ___ (Feb. 24, 2020) (Thomas, J., dissenting). I would therefore grant the motion to file the bill of complaint but would not grant other relief, and I express no view on any other issue.
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There are several other cases in 6 states still pending.
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Does that mean the SC threw the whole thing out?
But are they taking this one?
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/lin-wood-case-finally-docketed-in-supreme-court/
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Does that mean the SC threw the whole thing out?
Effectively. Here’s the official order:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/121120zr_p860.pdf (https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/121120zr_p860.pdf)
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Does that mean the SC threw the whole thing out?
But are they taking this one?
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/lin-wood-case-finally-docketed-in-supreme-court/
It's docketed. I suspect we'll see something on it this weekend, but I suspect they will do the same on this.
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It's docketed. I suspect we'll see something on it this weekend, but I suspect they will do the same on this.
I think the justices were threatened.
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Bottoms up!
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Bottoms up!
Don't think he got any actual votes. ;)
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In Georgia
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EMA5VRJSoUUzlwgs4iPRi5Me4JsvpWwZ/view
The lawsuit additionally lists 1,043 individuals registered at PO boxes, 4,926 individuals who voted in Georgia after registering in another state, 395 individuals who voted in two states, 15,700 votes from people who moved out of state before the election, 40,279 votes of people who moved without re-registering in their new county and 30,000 – 40,000 absentee ballots lacking proper signature matching and verification, 2,560 felons who voted, 66,247 underage voters, and 2,423 votes from people who were not registered.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/11/arizona-gop-takes-election-case-supreme-court-found-evidence/
https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1337426922373074949
The Arizona Republican Party, led by chairwoman Dr. Kelli Ward, announced on Friday it is appealing its election integrity case, taking it to the U.S. Supreme Court after the Arizona Supreme Court dismissed the case.
“Our case is going to the Supreme Court of the United States,” Ward announced on Friday, expressing hope that it will be expedited and noting that, if accepted, they will only be the third 2020 presidential election case accepted by the highest court in the land:
Ward explained they decided to appeal to the Supreme Court because they “have not had due process”:
It is unconstitutional for us not to have due process, which is time to be able to make a case, do discovery, and hold an entire hearing. The judge set unrealistic deadlines. He believed he had to have his case out of his hands by December 8. Well, that only gave us three days to examine up to three million ballots, which we all know is impossible. And in Arizona, it’s interesting because for over 100 years, we’ve had to file an election contest the day after the election is certified. So that gives us only eight days to do the entire job that we need to do, and everyone knows that it’s not enough time to do the job in a case that’s important as choosing our next president. So this is going to go to the Supreme Court.
“The media loves to say, ‘Show us the evidence.’ We found evidence, but then, we didn’t have enough time to do more discovery because they kept that evidence locked up,” the Arizona GOP chairwoman said.
“It’s smoke and mirrors and the people of Arizona see right through it. So do the people of America as a whole,” she said, adding that Democrats do not care about accountability, transparency, or the integrity of the election.
The decision follows the Arizona Supreme Court’s dismissal of the lawsuit Ward brought forth, concluding that plaintiffs “offered no evidence” that the 1,626 duplicated ballot samples were not sufficient or that counting more ballots would result in the exposure of widespread fraud.
According to the Patch, the “court-ordered sampling of 1,626 duplicated ballots found Trump lost seven votes due to errors in ballot processing in Maricopa County.”
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Just finished listening to the arguments in front of the Wisconsin SC.
Hard Left justices who don’t even try to hide it. The outcome will be no surprise.
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This guy sure is optimistic. He talks about the massive 2022 GOP landslide because of Biden't incompetence if he is seated, but he is missing the massive cheating that will be going on if this isn't fixed.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/will-small-county-northern-mi-key-overturning-nations-election-results-america-find-monday/
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So why would a State AG sue to stop a forensic investigation to reveal their evidence?
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WTH is going on here? Perhaps the fed gov needs to intervene and seize that forensic evidence.
Why is MI so afraid to let anyone see the evidence?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/matthew-deperno-michigan-votes-dominion-antrim
A Michigan attorney wants to release the findings from a forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems equipment for the public to see.
Matthew DePerno, who is representing an Antrim County resident behind a lawsuit challenging a local marijuana retailer proposal, told Newsmax TV on Friday that his broader ambition is to convince state lawmakers to overturn the results of the presidential election with what he says is evidence of voting machine tampering.
"We've called on Mike Shirkey, who is the Senate majority leader in the Michigan Senate, to send a separate slate of electors to Lansing, Republican electors, based on what we think we have found," he told host Greg Kelly, who asked if there was any way to flip Michigan.
"I filed an emergency motion this afternoon with the Antrim County Circuit Court asking them to lift a protective order so that we can release the results of the forensic examination to the American people, to the Michigan House of Representatives, to the Michigan Senate, and to anyone else who wants to see the results so they can judge for themselves how the system operates," DePerno added.
The emergency motion says the "initial preliminary results" are "an issue of national security" and "important for the public, the U.S. government and the Michigan Legislature to review and understand."
William Bailey, a realtor and member of Antrim County’s planning commission, filed the lawsuit to challenge a local marijuana retailer proposal that barely passed after three ballots were not included in a retabulation because they had been damaged.
A judge allowed Bailey and a team from Dallas-area cybersecurity firm Allied Security Operations Group to conduct a forensic audit of Dominion hardware last weekend, after which Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson warned of an effort to spread "false information designed to erode the public’s confidence in the election." Michigan Circuit Court Judge Kevin Elsenheimer ruled in favor of the state’s motion during a Thursday hearing conducted virtually over Zoom to allow Benson to intervene in the case.
The case, which lists Antrim County as the defendant, gained outsize publicity and attention from President Trump’s legal team and his allies because of the focus on Dominion voting machines and the forensic audit. Antrim County first drew national headlines a couple of weeks ago after votes were found to be counted incorrectly in unofficial results in the Republican-leaning county. Officials determined it was human error, in particular a failure to update software, that resulted in 6,000 votes erroneously being tabulated for President-elect Joe Biden rather than Trump.
Dominion Voting Systems, whose machines were used in Antrim and in other places across the country, has vociferously denied allegations about the company being involved in a massive voter fraud scheme, billing them as being part of a "disinformation" effort. And although Trump and allies, including attorney Sidney Powell, claim there was widespread fraud that stole the election from the president, high-level members of Trump's own government, including Attorney General William Barr, have said they have not seen evidence to support those claims.
The Trump legal team and other associated groups have filed a litany of lawsuits in the Wolverine State, which Biden won by more than 150,000 votes, and elsewhere seeking to turn the election results, but those efforts have largely fallen flat. They are also hoping to convince GOP-led legislatures in multiple battleground states to dispute Biden's victory and instead send Trump's electors to Congress.
The information gathered in the Antrim County forensic audit on Sunday is subject to a court-issued protective order that restricts the “use, distribution or manipulation of the forensic images and/or other information gleaned from the forensic investigation” without court permission, according to the Traverse City Record-Eagle.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel's office issued a press release on Friday to respond to "what appears to be a swirl of misinformation being circulated among Republican activists accusing the Department of Attorney General of suppressing information."
This followed former state Sen. Patrick Colbeck, identified as a "Michigan election challenger," telling Fox Business host Lou Dobbs on Thursday in a viral interview that Elsenheimer "ruled in favor of an order that was requested by the attorney general, Dana Nessel of Michigan, to prohibit the disclosure of those forensic results."
Kelly Rossman-McKinney, the communications director of the Michigan Department of Attorney General, said that during Thursday's hearing, "the plaintiff’s attorney indicated that the results of the inspection of the Antrim County tabulator being conducted by the plaintiff and his agents has not been completed. Therefore, no information regarding the inspection has been made available to Judge Elsenheimer, Secretary Benson, or the Department of Attorney General Dana Nessel. Further, this information is already subject to a protective order issued by Judge Elsenheimer.”
During his Newsmax interview on Friday, DePerno mentioned that his team has been running an analysis of the forensic audit since Sunday.
"The secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, said it happened by human error. We've discovered that's not true. That's a lie," he said, again accusing Dominion of being the perpetrator of fraud.
Dominion CEO John Poulos sent a letter to Michigan Senate Oversight Committee Chairman Ed McBroom, a Republican, saying that his company is open to having a representative testify next week.
“I appreciate the opportunity to correct the baseless and defamatory claims being made about our systems. They are harmful not only to Dominion, but also to the countless hardworking election officials across the State, as well all Michigan public officials elected through a fair process,” Poulos said.
Benson’s office said on Wednesday that a zero-margin risk-limiting audit will be conducted in Antrim County in December to ensure further the veracity of the results and offer increased transparency.
The judge is expected to hold a hearing on DePerno's request to lift the protective order on Monday, the same day Michigan's presidential electors are set to convene in Lansing.
https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1337167625797988355
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https://tennesseestar.com/2020/12/13/michigan-ag-and-sec-of-state-block-results-of-forensic-audit-of-22-dominion-machines-in-antrim-county/
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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/we_dont_need_scotus_to_win.html
The Texas suit, later joined by other states, against Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia, was a nice try, but it was always a long shot. Of course SCOTUS would be reluctant to grab so much power by ordering state legislatures to seat the right electors. Why? Because the power is already in the hands of the legislatures to do this.
Though we are non-lawyers, let's read these laws together, interpreting them minimally and plainly (something lawyers seem incapable of doing). The first federal law for our purposes, titled "Determination of controversy as to appointment of electors," says:
If any State shall have provided, by laws enacted prior to the day fixed for the appointment of the electors, for its final determination of any controversy or contest concerning the appointment of all or any of the electors of such State, by judicial or other methods or procedures, and such determination shall have been made at least six days before the time fixed for the meeting of the electors, such determination made pursuant to such law so existing on said day, and made at least six days prior to said time of meeting of the electors, shall be conclusive, and shall govern in the counting of the electoral votes as provided in the Constitution, and as hereinafter regulated, so far as the ascertainment of the electors appointed by such State is concerned.
So this provision, if I understand it correctly, says that states may appoint electors after a controversy ("controversy or contest"). Now, what happens when fraud and illegalities are so egregious that they help one candidate exclusively and harm only one candidate in such a way that it is unclear which electors shall be appointed? That definitely qualifies to become a "controversy or contest." The provision opens the door to each state legislature having the right to determine how the state can appoint electors ("appointment of electors" and "ascertainment of electors"). (This is already clear in the Twelfth Amendment, but here this provision gives more clarity after a controversy.) Bottom line: The electors for Biden, the "fake winner," can be set aside if that is what each individual state law allows.
What does each state law say? It's up to them to tell us, because researching each state's law is too burdensome for average citizens. But it is safe to assume that the states have "plenary power" to appoint the electors of their choosing, particularly when the Constitution actually says the state legislatures determine things. The Electors Clause — Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution — provides that "[e]ach state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress." (Hat tip.)
However, what about the "six days" in the election law provision? The next federal law, in a section titled "failure to make a choice before prescribed day," says:
Whenever any State has held an election for the purpose of choosing electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct.
The states can determine when they appoint the electors "on a subsequent day" (not the next day). The phrase "In such a manner as the legislature of such State may direct" gives the states much leeway to select the right electors, which agrees with the Electors Clause, cited above. And if the controversy in selecting electors, caused by fraud and illegalities, persists past Dec. 14, then the states can ignore the date and follow their need to further investigate fraud and illegalities.
The whole thing can work out like this, apart from the Texas lawsuit before SCOTUS.
The undisputed states vote electorally on Dec. 14, and neither Biden nor Trump reaches 270, so neither one is the winner. The five GOP state legislatures (Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania) of the six disputed states (minus Nevada) say they need to postpone their electoral votes because they are investigating fraud and illegalities. The legislatures perform due diligence (they have been holding hearings to collect the evidence) and conclude that fraud and illegalities unilaterally hurt Trump and helped only Biden. Assuming that the Democrat Legislature in Nevada says everything was legitimate, each disputed GOP state may reach this conclusion on any day after Dec. 14 — say, on Dec. 27 or even Jan. 15. Then they appoint electors who vote for the rightful winner: Trump (provided the GOP-selected electors do not suffer from TDS). These votes are added in to the votes cast on Dec. 14. Trump goes past 270 electoral votes. He wins!
However, what happens if the disputed states cannot select the electors, and neither Trump or Biden reaches 270? Then it goes to the House of Representatives, and each state has one vote, and this one vote is determined by the political makeup of the state legislatures. The GOP controls 29 state legislatures, and the Democrats have 19 (two are split). Trump wins again.
Therefore, we don't need SCOTUS to win, and we never needed it.
So what happen next, and what can regular folks do now?
First, we can keep up the pressure on the legislators of those five GOP states to select electors who will vote for the rightful winner, who is obviously Trump. Some of the members in these legislatures may suffer from TDS, so the message must be sent that they have to set aside their irrational opposition and do the right thing.
Second, Sidney Powell's legal team can continue with their lawsuits, so they can expose and uproot Dominion Voting Systems. Now the goal will not be to overturn elections, but to get rid of the flawed, rigged system. This goal is much more realistic and easier to accomplish. The court cases will take a long time. But that's okay, because they keep in the public view the "fake president" and 2024, if Biden (unjustly) prevails.
Third, we must counter the left-wing pressure, including their threats of violence, that will be thrust on these little known state politicians. Without threats of violence on our side, we can still stand firm to support and defend them.
The battle is not over. It was always going to boil down to the legislatures without SCOTUS. If we keep up the fight, we shall win with knowledge and the law on our side.
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Let that sink in for a few
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1337966276585664513
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https://rumble.com/vbu6xh-election-night-errors-how-did-that-happen.html
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Lays out President Trump’s constitutional paths forward. Excellent.
https://www.brighteon.com/1aa596c5-5147-4fcd-aaf8-a5611c27bf33
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Lays out President Trump’s constitutional paths forward. Excellent.
https://www.brighteon.com/1aa596c5-5147-4fcd-aaf8-a5611c27bf33
But is any of this going to happen? Just how big are DJT’s balls?
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But is any of this going to happen? Just how big are DJT’s balls?
Not that big.
I think he loves the American people too much to go down that rabbit hole.
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Not that big.
I think he loves the American people too much to go down that rabbit hole.
Did you listen to Becky's link above? The whole thing, every word. If that guys knows what he's talking about, and I've no reason to think his opinion is less valid than say, yours, Trump would be saving the American people a lot of bloodshed if he does it.
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Did you listen to Becky's link above? The whole thing, every word. If that guys knows what he's talking about, and I've no reason to think his opinion is less valid than say, yours, Trump would be saving the American people a lot of bloodshed if he does it.
I did. Just my opinion, but when he talks about getting our Republic back “after a brief period of military rule,” that’s a very dangerous rabbit hole.
I appreciate what he’s saying. I have no idea who this guy is, but I buy some of it. But some of it is a stretch, IMO. His worst case scenario hasn’t happened yet.
He mentions Lincoln’s use of the 14th Amendment. Didn’t mention that 600,000 American soldiers died in that insurrection.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIJPXaj-qVA (https://t.co/Hmajv6gzBB?amp=1)
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Outstanding.
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https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/what-youve-been-asking-for-a-fairly-complete-list-of-some-of-the-most-significant-claims-of-2020-election-miscounts-errors-or-fraud/
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Meet your new leader of the US and his lackey that will make it happen.
(The lackey is on the left)
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https://www.scotusblog.com/election-litigation/pennsylvania-democratic-party-v-boockvar/
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https://trendingpolitics.com/polish-american-warns-about-communism-what-matters-is-who-counts-the-votes/
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https://kraken-wood.com/pdf/SCRule.pdf
The newly obtained evidence from Antrim County, Michigan is directly relevant to Petitioners’ Emergency Petition Under Rule 20 for Extraordinary Writ of Mandamus before this Honorable Court because the new evidence corroborates and supports the existing record of evidence proving massive election fraud, multiple violations of the Michigan Election Code, federal statutes, and the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution. In addition to new expert evidence from Antrim County, the Petitioners have also been provided with new affidavits from two additional forensic experts that are not subject to a protective order but evince international interference in the election.The new affidavits are from Military Intelligence electronic intelligence analysts and state that the SSL certificates from dominionvoting.com were used multiple times from Canada, Serbia, and the United States. Images are attached to the affidavits, demonstrating that Dominion systems were connected to foreign systems around the globe. Additionally, the affidavits detail evidence demonstrating that Sequoia Capital seeded or funded Dominion Voting Systems and HSBC Toronto acquired from Dominion Voting Systems eighteen patents representing intellectual property of Dominion Voting Systems. These patents all pertain to direct interfaces with the U.S. election process by means of ballots, systems, and machines. This affidavit further reveals that a Toronto-based Chinese bank (HSBC) secures the intellectual patents pertaining to direct access to the U.S. election systems and
3equipment from Dominion Voting Systems. The information revealed in these affidavits is relevant to Petitioners’ Rule 20 Petition for Extraordinary Writ of Mandamus to further demonstrate foreign interference in the November 3, 2020 election. Petitioners seek to file these new affidavits and evidence from Military electronic intelligence analysts to support and corroborate the existing evidence of international interference in the November 3, 2020 election.
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It’s not about the truth, it’s how you package the lies.
https://twitter.com/Kruisin4Potus/status/1337308649337851908
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Wow. Pure and undiluted leftist moonbattery.
Admits Trump won bigly. Admits Trump won bigly because he said the left was going to do something Biden herein admits he is, yes, going to do.
No wonder POTUS hasn’t given this stooge any military briefings. He’s mentally challenged and a threat to the free world.
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“That’s how they beat the living hell out of us, across the country”....
Wow. Admitting Trump won the election.
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https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1338467687828254720
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Atrim County Dominion Forensic Report
https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/antrim_michigan_forensics_report_[121320]_v2_[redacted].pdf
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There is SUCH an awful lot of no evidence of fraud....
I guess President Trump saying something mean is so much worse than TREASON. Our leftist friends just can't imagine anything worse.
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Atrim County Dominion Forensic Report
https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/antrim_michigan_forensics_report_%5B121320%5D_v2_%5Bredacted%5D.pdf (https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/antrim_michigan_forensics_report_%5B121320%5D_v2_%5Bredacted%5D.pdf)
https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/antrim_michigan_forensics_report_[121320]_v2_[redacted].pdf
There were square brackets in the URL that caused the forum software to prematurely truncate it when clicked on. It would generate a 404 error. So I added URL brackets around the link and copied and pasted it such that the brackets get quoted using the HTML percent sign encodings.
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There were square brackets in the URL that caused the forum software to prematurely truncate it when clicked on. It would generate a 404 error. So I added URL brackets around the link and copied and pasted it such that the brackets get quoted using the HTML percent sign encodings.
I don't know what you mean but one of those links took me to it. Thanks. Downloaded in case it vanishes from the internet.
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One thing to remember from all of this is the names of those Republicans that are showing themselves as true "Never Trumpers" and have bailed totally.
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One thing to remember from all of this is the names of those Republicans that are showing themselves as true "Never Trumpers" and have bailed totally.
By this point, everyone should have bailed. It's done. Put a fork in it. Move on.
If the election were held today, I would not vote for Trump. I wouldn't vote for Biden either, but Trump's belief that he must be president shows a lack of respect for the country and the Republic. There is a process and he has lost. If you want to bitch more about cheating, it will still do nothing to change the past. You could do something about the future, but knowing how Republicans operate, you'll just sit home and yell at the kids to get off your lawn.
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https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/14/breaking-wisconsin-supreme-court-says-election-officials-were-wrong-ballots-may-not-be-counted/amp/
The opinion, which was released this morning, says local elections officials were wrong to suggest that voters could claim the status of "indefinitely confined" based on COVID-19. The majority decision also held that if voters falsely claimed they were indefinitely confined "their ballots would not count."
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By this point, everyone should have bailed. It's done. Put a fork in it. Move on.
If the election were held today, I would not vote for Trump. I wouldn't vote for Biden either, but Trump's belief that he must be president shows a lack of respect for the country and the Republic. There is a process and he has lost. If you want to bitch more about cheating, it will still do nothing to change the past. You could do something about the future, but knowing how Republicans operate, you'll just sit home and yell at the kids to get off your lawn.
apparently you (bflynn) think that many (some?) of the people on PS are strict Republicans.
I wonder how many PS participants (not lurkers, but people that participate) are registered Republicans...
I, for one, am unenrolled... but I'm in maskachusetts, so it doesn't matter much what with so many people blindly voting for whatever slime has a (d) next to the name.
I'm also confused by the hatred of President Trump, apparently because of his view that elections should be fair. Why are you against fair elections?
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/sztb0si20q2iaij/Judge%20Amy%20Totenberg%20Order%20dated%2010.11.2020%20-%20Curling%20v.%20Raffensperger.pdf?dl=0
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apparently you (bflynn) think that many (some?) of the people on PS are strict Republicans.
I wonder how many PS participants (not lurkers, but people that participate) are registered Republicans...
I, for one, am unenrolled... but I'm in maskachusetts, so it doesn't matter much what with so many people blindly voting for whatever slime has a (d) next to the name.
I'm also confused by the hatred of President Trump, apparently because of his view that elections should be fair. Why are you against fair elections?
Trump has awakened a sleeping giant. Not conservatives, not Republicans, but a populist movement, meaning the forgotten people who have been screwed too long by the political class.
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PA, GA, WI and NV have republican electors casting votes.
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apparently you (bflynn) think that many (some?) of the people on PS are strict Republicans.
I'm also confused by the hatred of President Trump, apparently because of his view that elections should be fair. Why are you against fair elections?
I do believe that most people who support Trump are Republicans, yes. I have no idea how people here are registered to vote and I don't think it really matters / I don't really care about a technical nit pick. If you like, substitute "trump supporters" for Republicans in my previous post.
I've said this before, but I'll restate it. The president has lost, but he shows no sign of acknowledging it, even now when the electoral college is voting. His hubris is driving his behavior now.
Trump is not pursing court cases because he wants elections to be fair, he is doing it because he wants to remain president. That's is evidenced by the relief he asked for - he was asking courts to overrule state government's certifications of their entire election, not to correct the unfair practices that came out of them. In some cases, he won those cases, but most of the time he swung for the fence and struck out.
At this point he is asking someone...anyone...to do something that keeps him as president. It isn't going to happen.
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You are full of shit.
And you are not full of shit because you have any proof to your bullshit but because you are a lib at heart and want your pathetic partisan bullshit to be true so bad that you can’t imagine any other outcome.
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You are full of shit.
And you are not full of shit because you have any proof to your bullshit but because you are a lib at heart and want your pathetic partisan bullshit to be true so bad that you can’t imagine any other outcome.
You should go back to the doctor and get your dosage increased. The current one isn't working.
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By this point, everyone should have bailed. It's done. Put a fork in it. Move on.
If the election were held today, I would not vote for Trump. I wouldn't vote for Biden either, but Trump's belief that he must be president shows a lack of respect for the country and the Republic. There is a process and he has lost. If you want to bitch more about cheating, it will still do nothing to change the past. You could do something about the future, but knowing how Republicans operate, you'll just sit home and yell at the kids to get off your lawn.
So we should just accept massive vote fraud by the Democrats as standard from here on out and move on, got it.
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So we should just accept massive vote fraud by the Democrats as standard from here on out and move on, got it.
You should prove it to the standard required by a court. But you haven't and thats why you keep losing cases.
Barring that, get over it and work to demand that elections be secured.
The United States will survive Biden, we have had worse president before.
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So we should just accept massive vote fraud by the Democrats as standard from here on out and move on, got it.
Of course not! The PA, GA, WI, MI, AZ and NV legislatures will get together and do a comprehensive voter reform requiring ID, clean voter rolls, and strict absentee voting requirements! The Governors of these states will approve the bills and their state SoS's will implement them with proper oversight!
And His Fraudulancy will put together a commission to oversee that all elections are free and fair.............
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You should prove it to the standard required by a court. But you haven't and thats why you keep losing cases.
The majority of cases were thrown out on procedural, not on the merits. On a few of the cases they were thrown out before the judge even would hear the opening argument, and it was clear from the judges prewritten dismissal they read from before even looking at the petition.
The leftist won't touch the merits as they have zero defense. Their only hope is playing legal jujitsu and catch 22 schemes to fight back the petitions and complaints.
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Trump is not pursing court cases because he wants elections to be fair, he is doing it because he wants to remain president.
it's awesome that you can read minds.
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it's awesome that you can read minds.
I can read actions.
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The majority of cases were thrown out on procedural, not on the merits.
So it was the fault of the courts not following the laws the way Trump wanted?
Maybe he needed better lawyers. Or a better case.
Regardless, it's over. For him to keep pushing it just makes him look worse.
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I can read actions.
So it was the fault of the courts not following the laws the way Trump wanted?
Maybe he needed better lawyers. Or a better case.
Regardless, it's over. For him to keep pushing it just makes him look worse.
From Election Night until now, the President has stated repeatedly, in statements, speeches and tweets, that our free republic cannot survive if one party is allowed to fraud its way into power.
He has stated repeatedly that he would be fine with losing an election legitimately, but that this election was not lost legitimately.
He has stated repeatedly that this battle goes far beyond who wins this election.
He is not willing to let a fraudulent election stand because it is a betrayal of American citizens most sacred right and is disastrous for the country.
It’s easy to see that you don’t see much of what he says in speeches, statements or tweets. If you did, you would not have made the statements you did.
I also suspect you’ve not seen much of the staggering evidence, court testimonies and state hearings clearly showing fraud, and that you were not watching election returns on night of November 3.
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So it was the fault of the courts not following the laws the way Trump wanted?
Procedural is a sly way not to hear a case. It's nothing more than legal jujitsu.
Maybe he needed better lawyers. Or a better case.
He has an impressive legal team, not that you would care. The cases based upon merit are also very compelling. This is why the defendants do not want to answer on the merits, they have no answers. This is also why the activist judges don't want it heard in their court, it will put them in a corner in front of the world.
Regardless, it's over. For him to keep pushing it just makes him look worse.
What looks worse is how the leftist keep demanding to shut it down so they don't have to answer to their misdeeds. They are hoping and praying that His Fraudulancy will be coronated and make all of this disappear before a few of them wind up indicted.
It's also amusing how the leftist want to deny others their legal and constitutional rights. I get it , you hate Trump because he hurt your feelings, and you are willing to accept fraud and other criminal behavior if the means justify the end. What other criminal behavior are you willing to accept to see a political agenda carried through? Do you really think that it stops here? Are you that naive?
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From Election Night until now, the President has stated repeatedly, in statements, speeches and tweets, that our free republic cannot survive if one party is allowed to fraud its way into power.
He has stated repeatedly that he would be fine with losing an election legitimately, but that this election was not lost legitimately.
He has stated repeatedly that this battle goes far beyond who wins this election.
He is not willing to let a fraudulent election stand because it is a betrayal of American citizens most sacred right and is disastrous for the country.
It’s easy to see that you don’t see much of what he says in speeches, statements or tweets. If you did, you would not have made the statements you did.
I also suspect you’ve not seen much of the staggering evidence, court testimonies and state hearings clearly showing fraud, and that you were not watching election returns on night of November 3.
All very good points. Our country hangs in the balance due to the rampant fraud being perpetuated by the left. But for some, the means justify the end, and they are happy to watch our freedoms erode and our constitution be trampled because they were offended.
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https://amgreatness.com/2020/12/14/republican-electors-in-6-contested-states-cast-conditional-votes-for-president-trump-gop-electors-in-michigan-blocked/
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https://amgreatness.com/2020/12/14/republican-electors-in-6-contested-states-cast-conditional-votes-for-president-trump-gop-electors-in-michigan-blocked/
Damn!
All right New Mexico!
And WTF Michigan!? Block the electors from entering the building? Shit’s getting real!
So we have 6 states submitting conditional votes, my understanding is Mike Pence on Jan 6 will be opening ALL of them and then he (someone?) decides which of the conflicting ones to accept?
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Damn!
All right New Mexico!
And WTF Michigan!? Block the legislators from entering the building? Shit’s getting real!
So we have 6 states submitting conditional votes, my understanding is Mike Pence on Jan 6 will be opening ALL of them and then he (someone?) decides which of the conflicting ones to accept?
were Legislators blocked? or was it Electors that were blocked?
I would think blocking Legislators would be a violation of MI constitution. But, IANAL, etc etc etc.
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Damn!
All right New Mexico!
And WTF Michigan!? Block the legislators from entering the building? Shit’s getting real!
So we have 6 states submitting conditional votes, my understanding is Mike Pence on Jan 6 will be opening ALL of them and then he (someone?) decides which of the conflicting ones to accept?
Michigan is just a corrupt leftist shithole to the highest order. And what sucks is most of the state is conservative, except for the cesspools of Detroit, Lansing and Grand Rapids. Yet another reason these states need to go to a electoral process rather than a popular vote.
Wisconsin is going to have 200,000 votes gone through for signature verification. Michigan has the Atrim Dominion problem. The Parnell PA case is in front of the SC, there is a GA case pending before the SC. AZ is contesting to the SC.
WI could possibly throw out almost all 200,000 votes and Trump wins, and those electors go to him. MI could possibly have to send an alternate slate if they find the other Dominion machines were rigged. Parnell's case is very strong and will be heard by the SC, and will most likely toss out all votes after election day there. GA is just a dumpster fire that the SoS has created, and it will probably go to Trump once signature verification are completed. AZ also has a strong case after the the high percentage rejection rate was discovered.
Not over, not over by a long shot.
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were Legislators blocked? or was it Electors that were blocked?
I would think blocking Legislators would be a violation of MI constitution. But, IANAL, etc etc etc.
Yes I meant electors.
I changed it.
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https://therightscoop.com/arizona-senate-to-issue-subpoena-for-a-forensic-audit-of-dominion-voting-systems/
The Arizona Senate wants to get to the bottom of the fraud claims they heard in their hearing today and will issue subpoenas to have the Maricopa County Dominion Voting Systems machines audited:
TUSCON.COM – Arizona’s 11 Democratic electors cast their votes Monday for President-elect Joe Biden, even as the chairman of a state Senate panel said he will issue subpoenas to check the accuracy of hardware and software used here in the Nov. 3 presidential election.
Sen. Eddie Farnsworth, R-Gilbert, said there were enough questions raised, in testimony Monday before his Senate Judiciary Committee, about whether the Dominion Voting Systems used in Maricopa County produced reliable results.
Farnsworth isn’t doing this to overturn the election, but rather to find out the truth and restore voter integrity:
Even Farnsworth suggested the subpoenas are simply a matter of addressing the various claims “and try and see if we can reinsert some confidence in our election process.”
“We hold an audit and we see what the outcome is,” he said. “And then we can put this to rest.” He said the subpoenas could be issued as early as Tuesday, Dec. 15.
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https://amgreatness.com/2020/12/14/republican-electors-in-6-contested-states-cast-conditional-votes-for-president-trump-gop-electors-in-michigan-blocked/
It’s 7 now. Michigan did their vote anyway.
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More from the GA dumpster fire
https://www.dailywire.com/news/georgia-announces-signature-audit-in-cobb-county
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Way too much piled on there.
Trump’s legal team, however impressive, was ineffective. By definition, they failed to have an effect.
Just because Trump declares something does not make it so.
Trump does not get to declare what the laws are, nor when they are being broken. Separation of powers, that is the legislature and judiciary respectively.
I haven’t seen any proof. Much testimony, many people saying things. No proof. And that goes back to the legal team, why they have failed.
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Way too much piled on there.
Trump’s legal team, however impressive, was ineffective. By definition, they failed to have an effect.
Just because Trump declares something does not make it so.
Trump does not get to declare what the laws are, nor when they are being broken. Separation of powers, that is the legislature and judiciary respectively.
I haven’t seen any proof. Much testimony, many people saying things. No proof. And that goes back to the legal team, why they have failed.
The proof is there, you just won’t accept it. And your willingness to accept fraud and criminality to justify an end speaks volumes.
It’s a slippery slope, and one that has a point of no return.
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The proof is there, you just won’t accept it. And your willingness to accept fraud and criminality to justify an end speaks volumes.
It’s a slippery slope, and one that has a point of no return.
The proof has not been shown. Once again - show me.
Or just post another pithy meme like you did last time. It doesn’t hurt me.
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Way too much piled on there.
Trump’s legal team, however impressive, was ineffective. By definition, they failed to have an effect.
Just because Trump declares something does not make it so.
Trump does not get to declare what the laws are, nor when they are being broken. Separation of powers, that is the legislature and judiciary respectively.
I haven’t seen any proof. Much testimony, many people saying things. No proof. And that goes back to the legal team, why they have failed.
How about the “fact” that nearly two thirds of the votes in Antrim County were sent to adjudication, meaning they were then allowed to be changed by the adjudicator?
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How about the “fact” that nearly two thirds of the votes in Antrim County were sent to adjudication, meaning they were then allowed to be changed by the adjudicator?
I don’t know and neither do you. There is an allegation of machine malfunction and it is currently being audited but the results of that audit are not known.
There also appears to a hole in election oversight. That is the job of the state legislatures to correct.
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The proof has not been shown. Once again - show me.
It's all around you if you bother to look, but you won't. I could waste my time and post each and every piece, and you would smugly say "that's not evidence". The leftist are using the same tactic.
Nice group you've aligned with. Speaks volumes.
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While the leftist proclaim "no evidence!" they sure busy themselves in an attempt to destroy the "non-evidence" and even threaten the use of the law for those who won't follow the orders.
https://www.ntd.com/group-demands-election-evidence-be-kept_540522.html
On Dec. 1, Michigan’s Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson issued a memo instructing election clerks that electronic poll book files must be deleted from all laptops and flash drives.
This has guilt written all over it. If they were so sure that the "non-evidence" would prove them right, why are they so eager to get rid of it?
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Way too much piled on there.
Trump’s legal team, however impressive, was ineffective. By definition, they failed to have an effect.
You keep using the past tense. “Was “ ineffective. You do know lawsuits are ongoing, right?
Just because Trump declares something does not make it so.
Just because the news media declares something doesn’t make it true.
Trump does not get to declare what the laws are, nor when they are being broken. Separation of powers, that is the legislature and judiciary respectively.
I haven’t seen any proof. Much testimony, many people saying things. No proof. And that goes back to the legal team, why they have failed.
Just that one report by Allied Securities Operations is powerful evidence if not proof. I would call it strongly circumstantial. It discovered that the software is designed to allow manipulation of the vote results. It demonstrates definite proof that someone erased records which is illegal tampering with evidence. If that isn’t video evidence of a murder as it happened it certainly caught the killer standing over the body with a bloody knife.
In what universe would it be okay to “weight” votes for one candidate over another? Why is that feature in the software at all? There is one and only one answer: to allow cheating.
The adjudication rate was 68% in one case and 83% in another. That means the computer kicks the vote to a human who can manually decide the “intent” of the voter and enter or change a result. There is no circumstance where that high a percentage is normal or okay. It is way higher than allowable federal standards for error rates and way higher than previous elections. There is no audit trail, oversight or transparency of the process of adjudication. The actual logs for the 2020 adjudication had been erased but prior years were still there. This is direct proof of evidence tampering. All of this is reason enough to throw out the results as fatally tainted.
However, the forensics team found tabulator tape totals that showed a switch in results of the same votes between Nov. 3 and Nov. 6 that were a result of using different software versions of the Dominion system, contained on two different USB memory sticks. This shows that the software was calculating, not tabulating, the votes! In other words, applying the weighted score. That’s pretty close to having a video of the guy actually stabbing the murder victim.
So if you still want to call that a “glitch” and not deliberate cheating, then explain why the same glitch repeated hundreds of times across several counties and states all changed the votes in Biden’s favor. That and many other statistical impossibilities with this election make it plain, and everyone knows it. No way in hell Biden won.
But hey let’s just let it go.
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So if you still want to call that a “glitch” and not deliberate cheating, then explain why the same glitch repeated hundreds of times across several counties and states all changed the votes in Biden’s favor. That and many other statistical impossibilities with this election make it plain, and everyone knows it. No way in hell Biden won.
But hey let’s just let it go.
That's exactly what the Media wants. Quickly move on, and since they are running the country now, backed by the Chinese, they will get their wish.
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More from the GA dumpster fire
https://www.dailywire.com/news/georgia-announces-signature-audit-in-cobb-county
A day late and a dollar short...
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The proof has not been shown. Once again - show me.
There are none so blind as those that will not see.
(I used to think better of you...)
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A day late and a dollar short...
Of course. The plan all along was to run the clock out.
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There are none so blind as those that will not see.
I recognize that elections were sloppy and sometimes run by incompetent people. But every time I ask for the names of who committed fraud, nobody ever responds. I can only take that as there being nothing there.
Put another way, I cannot see what I have not been shown.
Without data, you are just another person with an opinion.
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/14/wisconsin-supreme-court-says-coronavirus-is-a-not-reason-to-abandon-voter-id-requirement/
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https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1338631925716566017
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I recognize that elections were sloppy and sometimes run by incompetent people. But every time I ask for the names of who committed fraud, nobody ever responds. I can only take that as there being nothing there.
Put another way, I cannot see what I have not been shown.
Without data, you are just another person with an opinion.
Officer, I saw a man shoot a teenage boy
what was the name of the man who did the shooting?
I don't know.
Well, then it didn't happen.
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Well, where we’re headed as a country is this, quite simply, we’re a Republic, and the bedrock of a Republic is an honest and accurate voting system. And if you don’t have an honest and accurate voting system, then you may as well throw out the claim that you’re a Republic. You’ve lost that right. You’ve lost the control of your government, and under those circumstances, those who can steal the most votes, who can engage in the most voter fraud and get away with it are going to be the ones that rule the roost in Washington, D.C. That’s not what our founding fathers wanted. That’s not what a million or so Americans who have lost their lives in wars wanted, giving us this Republic, this democracy where we could control our own fate and our own destiny.
-Mo Brooks, Rep AL
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Officer, I saw a man shoot a teenage boy
what was the name of the man who did the shooting?
I don't know.
Well, then it didn't happen.
Bogus example.
Officer, I saw a man shoot a boy
Did you see him shoot the boy: No
Do you know how he did it: No
Can you describe him: No
Do you know who it is: No
What would you expect the officer to do next? We can search and that's being done. But until you find the shooter, there's nothing next.
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Way too much piled on there.
Trump’s legal team, however impressive, was ineffective. By definition, they failed to have an effect.
Just because Trump declares something does not make it so.
Trump does not get to declare what the laws are, nor when they are being broken. Separation of powers, that is the legislature and judiciary respectively.
I haven’t seen any proof. Much testimony, many people saying things. No proof. And that goes back to the legal team, why they have failed.
It is indisputable that there was a direct violation of separation of powers in several battleground states, including Wisconsin. Governors, unelected Election Commissions, county clerks, and even courts re-wrote election law to accommodate people’s fear of Covid. Only the legislatures can create election law.
This was the source of many of Trump’s legal teams cases, and time after time the courts chose to not get involved in these disputes, citing separation of powers.
When one branch violates another branch’s laws, and the third branch refuses to do its job to resolve that, where do you go?
This is where we find ourselves today. Nothing to do with merit, but everything to do with process.
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Bogus example.
Officer, I saw a man shoot a boy
Did you see him shoot the boy: No
Do you know how he did it: No
Can you describe him: No
Do you know who it is: No
What would you expect the officer to do next? We can search and that's being done. But until you find the shooter, there's nothing next.
"Bogus example." yup. the one you give is indeed bogus
And the one I posted is not the same as your "example"
Are you unable to grasp that?
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https://amgreatness.com/2020/12/14/the-perilous-state-of-americas-republic/
The Perilous State of America’s Republic
If the United States cannot, in Lincoln's words, “bind up the nation’s wounds,” and re-emerge as a strong democracy, the end of Western Civilization is in sight.
By Conrad Black
December 14, 2020
Americans should know how perilous their democracy has become. The majority of Donald Trump’s voters already believe the presidential election was rigged, and there is no doubt that suspect voting changes, attributed to the requirements of voting in a pandemic, have created large anomalies in five states that made a great many such votes impossible to authenticate. Untold numbers of ballots arrived at a time and in a manner that incites the inference that they were substantially fraudulent. The numbers of votes involved in Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin are undoubtedly adequately numerous to have influenced the election.
The courts have failed to address the questions raised by this disturbing pattern of votes confined to only five states. Some of the responsibility rests with President Trump’s counsel, who often have demanded remedies out of all proportion to the complaints alleged. They seem only now to be getting around to an attack on the constitutionality of unverifiable voting on a large scale in the four or five suspect states, which stand out like pike-staffs among the others where all went smoothly.
The refusal of the U.S. Supreme Court to hear the appeal from the state of Texas, joined by 18 other states, is an outright abdication. Of course, Texas and its co-petitioners have perfectly adequate standing to demand that all states, in choosing a president, conduct their elections credibly enough to assure the whole country that the Constitution has been followed in filling the nation’s highest offices. For the Supreme Court to take the position, as it did, that it could not hear the election challenge case because Texas and the others did not have the standing to challenge how another state conducts its presidential election is completely spurious in the circumstances. Where the courts don’t exercise their jurisdiction, a vacuum arises which is likely to be filled by lawlessness, and potentially, even violent lawlessness.
The United States has become a country where a majority of Americans—people of good will from both parties—believe presidential elections are not conducted honestly. (Think back to the contested election of 2000.) An overwhelming majority do not trust the media, which, in political matters, is effectively a totalitarian enterprise slandering the Republicans and censoring criticism of the Democrats.
The Supreme Court has declined to opine on the most important question that possibly can be legitimately brought before it, and the criminal courts approve approximately 98 percent of prosecutions, over 95 percent of those without a trial, such is the corruption of the plea bargain system that enables prosecutors to extort false inculpatory testimony with no consequences to itself or the untruthful witnesses who are granted immunity from prosecution for perjury.
Crime rates are skyrocketing across the country, and last summer “peaceful protests” against civil rights abuses tore apart cities across the country, killing approximately 50 people, injuring 700 police, with looters, vandals, and arsonists (not protesters) committing billions of dollars of property damage. The Democrats made no reference to this at their convention; almost all of these riots took place in Democratic-governed states and cities, and the elected leaders of those cities largely identified with the rioters and responded by reducing police funding. Again, the clear trend is to lawlessness.
The treatment of the controversy surrounding the financial relations of presumptive President-elect Joe Biden and his family with Russia, China, and Ukraine in particular, raises further disquieting questions. The severity with which practically all of the media and social media denounced and ignored suggestions of potential misconduct by former Vice President Biden and his family, including suspending the Twitter account of the New York Post, the country’s oldest newspaper, and of the White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, is indicative of the undemocratic tendencies of the media and it helps to explain why professionally conducted surveys uniformly show that fewer than 15 percent of Americans trust the media. A free press is an indispensable pillar of a functioning democracy, but is now in the United States a despised, corrupted, and shriveled facsimile of the reliable and fearless media a vibrant democracy requires.
There is certainly room to question the conduct of Attorney General William Barr in unilaterally deciding that no mention should be made of the grand jury criminal investigation that has been conducted into these matters for over two years, enabling the media barely six weeks ago to suppress the story in a manner replicative of dictatorial regimes. There is no doubt that the existence of that investigation was a material fact in determining how people voted, and if Barr had emphasized the presumption of innocence, it would have been appropriate to reveal it to allow voters to make an informed decision.
There was widespread concern prior to the election that whatever the result, there could be a violent response. That has not occurred and the ostensibly defeated candidate, who has plenty to suspect in the result, has focused entirely on judicial review. This has been a farce of continued recounts in Georgia of unverifiable ballots, of courts eagerly declining jurisdiction, disputing standing, pusillanimously addressing process, or in the numerous instances provided for them by the president’s under-prepared counsel, dismissing less than rigorously composed complaints from the Trump campaign. Such a treatment of such a well-founded concern about the functioning of the electoral system can easily lead to violence.
In this case, President Trump will continue to focus his entire effort on encouraging his 74 million supporters to concentrate on reforming the election laws of the delinquent states, strengthening the Republican Party in midterm and state elections, and carrying the country against a thoroughly discredited opponent in four years. Allegations against Trump of incitements to violence, like accusations against him of racism and sexism, were never anything but complete falsehoods, and it will be recorded that he has conducted this campaign and its aftermath with admirable restraint. And he will have done so in the face of the greatest provocations any candidate for his office has ever had to endure, in both 2016 and 2020.
It is one of the great ironies of modern times that the world owes chiefly to the United States the spread and comparative success of democracy and of the free market, and yet the United States is not now one of the world’s better-functioning democracies. All through this election year we heard spokespeople for both parties repeating the tired pieties about the “greatest country in human history.” By some measures it certainly is, but it now appears not really to be a functioning democracy and not really to be a society of laws. It is almost chaos, and not a chaos produced by this president, though he has not been a source for serenity.
Americans will have to do more than sing their magnificent anthems, repeat patriotic platitudes, and ignore the threats of minority groups to burn society down, while they “reimagine law enforcement.” Those conservatives who shared most of Trump’s views but became irrational in their hatred of him, and those nominal Republicans who have worked like termites to undermine him, will bear a heavy responsibility for the spectacle of incompetence and venality and of indulgence of national self-loathing that the present Democratic party embodies as it returns to office. If the United States cannot, in Lincoln’s words, “bind up the nation’s wounds,” and re-emerge as a strong democracy, the end of Western Civilization is in sight. It remains the indispensable country, and as Richard Nixon said in 1970: “No power on earth can . . . defeat or humiliate the United States, except the United States.” The whole world is watching as vital history is made.
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It is indisputable that there was a direct violation of separation of powers in several battleground states, including Wisconsin. Governors, unelected Election Commissions, county clerks, and even courts re-wrote election law to accommodate people’s fear of Covid. Only the legislatures can create election law.
I don't disagree. Many laws were not followed and yet states still certified their elections and their courts upheld the certifications. The process of law has been followed and the social agreement just didn't have the result you wanted.
What would you propose next, that we start rioting? AVM (All Votes Matter)?
When one branch violates another branch’s laws, and the third branch refuses to do its job to resolve that, where do you go?
The voting booth, specifically the local voting booth.
This is not fatal to the United States. You have an ability to be impactful in your community, certainly to have more impact than coming here and complaining.
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"Bogus example." yup. the one you give is indeed bogus
And the one I posted is not the same as your "example"
Are you unable to grasp that?
I do not understand what you are saying is different, other than the word "teenage". All I did was ask more questions. Are you saying my questions are invalid? Or that you actually saw it happen but you cannot answer questions about it?
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I do not understand what you are saying is different, other than the word "teenage". All I did was ask more questions. Are you saying my questions are invalid? Or that you actually saw it happen but you cannot answer questions about it?
"Officer, I saw a man shoot a boy
Did you see him shoot the boy: No"
in your ludicrous "example" you changed the witness statement.
In my example for you, I focused on the fact that the witness couldn't give the name of the shooter.
YOU have constantly harped on naming people who committed voter fraud and absent a name, you don't believe it happened. My example was an attempt (futiltely) to show you that a name is required to show something happened. Are you unable to grasp that? Is that really too subtle for you? Are you that dense?
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So, bflynn has now advocated for continuous election fraud ongoing. Laws were ignored and changed by other than the legislative branch and the judicial refused to up hold the law so tough luck.
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I don't disagree. Many laws were not followed and yet states still certified their elections and their courts upheld the certifications. The process of law has been followed and the social agreement just didn't have the result you wanted.
What would you propose next, that we start rioting? AVM (All Votes Matter)?
The voting booth, specifically the local voting booth.
This is not fatal to the United States. You have an ability to be impactful in your community, certainly to have more impact than coming here and complaining.
Your statement is logically inconsistent. And you go on to say the solution to vote fraud is the voting booth.
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In my example for you, I focused on the fact that the witness couldn't give the name of the shooter.
That's probably because nobody can identify who cheated.
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Your statement is logically inconsistent. And you go on to say the solution to vote fraud is the voting booth.
You're right, it was inconsistently stated in the moment.
How about - Many voting laws were not followed. The process of resolving that WAS followed.
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That's probably because nobody can identify who cheated.
Do you understand that any alledged failure to identify those who cheated does not mean that no one cheated?
An invalid ballot is invalid... it doesn't matter who submitted the invalid ballot (and therefore requiring names of those that submitted invalid ballots is irrelevant)
bottomline: you trying to hide behind "no one can names names" is invalid.
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Do you understand that any alledged failure to identify those who cheated does not mean that no one cheated?
An invalid ballot is invalid... it doesn't matter who submitted the invalid ballot (and therefore requiring names of those that submitted invalid ballots is irrelevant)
bottomline: you trying to hide behind "no one can names names" is invalid.
Al Capone wasn’t caught by Elliot Ness having the booze truck driver arrested, charged, named, tried, convicted, and imprisoned.
Neither was he caught by arresting, charging, naming, trying, and convicting his bookkeeper, Edward O’Hare, despite the decade of crimes he committed on behalf of Capone.
He was caught because O’Hare was turned, and became an informant.
A month is hardly long enough to assemble a case sufficient to “name names” for bflynn. Yet that is what he and the democrats and the media are demanding, or, they will assert, no crime was committed.
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Do you understand that any alledged failure to identify those who cheated does not mean that no one cheated?
Yes.
Do you understand that a generic statement that cheating happened is not proof of it happening?
An invalid ballot is invalid... it doesn't matter who submitted the invalid ballot (and therefore requiring names of those that submitted invalid ballots is irrelevant)
bottomline: you trying to hide behind "no one can names names" is invalid.
I'm not hiding behind anything. If cheating happened, then you need to be able to identify it. I don't care if that's a person or a ballot or a process.
"there are invalid ballots" is an accusation. The next thing after that is proof and to convince a court, you're going to need that proof to a legal standard.
You have the accusation. You don't have proof of the accusation. That's why most of Trump's cases failed. The ones that succeeded named specifics. Example: the governor of Pennsylvania improperly extended the mail in ballot deadline. Here is his order doing that and here is the law stating that he cannot. That one was reversed.
Here's an example of things that failed:
"Republican voters were given sharpies which can't be read by the scan machines. their votes weren't counted and we demand they be counted". Election officials showed that all ballots had been counted.
In Georgia, there was an accusation that 54 ballots arrived late and were counted anyway. There was no ability identify the 54 ballots, nor to prove that any late deliveries happened. This was dismissed for a lack of evidence. If fraud happened here, the election systems were ineffective in catching it.
In Michigan, a trained poll challenger, Eric C, claimed to have been excluded from viewing ballot tabulation. The judge's order even stated "The complaint does not specific when, where or by whom plaintiff was excluded. " That's the same thing I've been saying, you can make an accusation, but until you can nail down the facts, you've got nothing.
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A month is hardly long enough to assemble a case sufficient to “name names” for bflynn. Yet that is what he and the democrats and the media are demanding, or, they will assert, no crime was committed.
By all means, please continue the investigation. If you find the evidence, I'll be first in line to demand the harshest punishment for the guilty parties.
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By all means, please continue the investigation. If you find the evidence, I'll be first in line to demand the harshest punishment for the guilty parties.
It doesn’t seem you really believe that, at least not from your post above:
“By this point, everyone should have bailed. It's done. Put a fork in it. Move on.
“If the election were held today, I would not vote for Trump. I wouldn't vote for Biden either, but Trump's belief that he must be president shows a lack of respect for the country and the Republic. There is a process and he has lost. If you want to bitch more about cheating, it will still do nothing to change the past. You could do something about the future, but knowing how Republicans operate, you'll just sit home and yell at the kids to get off your lawn.”
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A month is hardly long enough to assemble a case sufficient to “name names” for bflynn. Yet that is what he and the democrats and the media are demanding, or, they will assert, no crime was committed.
eventually, they will pull a hillary and just dismiss it with a "what difference does it make now?"
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It doesn’t seem you really believe that, at least not from your post above:
“By this point, everyone should have bailed. It's done. Put a fork in it. Move on.
Why would you say that?
The accusations have not been proven. Move on. That has always been my message, however clumsy I was at times delivering it
However, if I am wrong and fraud can be proven, I will be there.
Otherwise, there is nothing.
What is inconsistent?
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81 million voted for him, making history.
Yet, for some reason, he can't get but a few dozen people to attend one of his events.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/10/27/wide-shot-of-joe-bidens-rally-in-georgia-gives-a-good-idea-of-the-massive-crowds-hes-drawing/
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81 million voted for him, making history.
Yet, for some reason, he can't get but a few dozen people to attend one of his events.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/10/27/wide-shot-of-joe-bidens-rally-in-georgia-gives-a-good-idea-of-the-massive-crowds-hes-drawing/
I just got a message from someone who was at Saturday’s rally in DC. He said he wouldn’t be surprised if there were a million people, the crowd was massive and much bigger than any other Trump rally. Yet you don’t hear much about it in the news.
People do not seriously believe Joe Biden won this election. No one does. No matter what anyone says. If you claim to believe it you are lying or are completely delusional.
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I just got a message from someone who was at Saturday’s rally in DC. He said he wouldn’t be surprised if there were a million people, the crowd was massive and much bigger than any other Trump rally. Yet you don’t hear much about it in the news.
People do not seriously believe Joe Biden won this election. No one does. No matter what anyone says. If you claim to believe it you are lying or are completely delusional.
oh, I know a bunch of people that believe Joe Biden won fair and square. (remember, I'm in maskachusetts)
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Colorado is now holding a hearing on election integrity. Someone just mentioned using the National Guard to ensure fair elections.
Someone just made a motion to audit the office of the Secretary of State.
And seconded.
And failed.
New motion, research whether to do a performance audit.
And failed.
There are some nasty Democrats in that hearing. Not interested in looking into election integrity.
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Colorado is now holding a hearing on election integrity. Someone just mentioned using the National Guard to ensure fair elections.
Someone just made a motion to audit the office of the Secretary of State.
And seconded.
And failed.
New motion, research whether to do a performance audit.
And failed.
There are some nasty Democrats in that hearing. Not interested in looking into election integrity.
They have the keys now, and in no way will they give them up. Their dreams have been realized in 2020.
First, after 40 years of climate change not working, they found a new weapon which brought this country down in less than 2 weeks. We’ve not seen the end of this new toy.
Second, they have now proved they can indeed hold an election with a desired outcome. Wanna dispute it? Sure, try getting that through “their” courts. Legislature? They’re neutralized, and the tyrant governors and the leftist courts now make law.
The dream has been realized. The CCP is opening champagne and toasting their new position as the worlds superpower.
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https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1001650/520
McLaughlin Poll: Majority See Vote Fraud as National Problem
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https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1001650/520
McLaughlin Poll: Majority See Vote Fraud as National Problem
It is concerning that in this poll where a majority of voted for Biden, they still can’t say it was an honest election.
THAT’S BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T!
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McLaughlin Poll: Majority See Vote Fraud as National Problem
I see it as a series of state problems. One of my concerns right now is that it seems several states have very loose adherence to their rules and their courts don't seem to care.
Obviously that's presents problems with trust and it has. Close elections always create doubt, but doubt + irregularities lead to what we see now - people making accusations of fraud, regardless of whether or not they can be substantiated.
I think Republicans believe(d?) so strongly in the integrity of the courts that they just assumed that if accusations were made, they would be investigated. That isn't what courts do and presenting factless accusations is why Republicans lost the war.
My concern with Georgia is that there will be massive voter roll fraud with people coming in from out of state and registering/voting under multiple aliases. Georgia is not equipped to detect them in a timely manner. The law "protecting" against this only triggers after the election when the voter is discovered to not have moved to the state, but what will be done then? You can't even discover their real identity, let alone prosecute them.
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This is interesting. Lin Wood sure seems confident people will be going to jail.
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1338715369566048256
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This is interesting. Lin Wood sure seems confident people will be going to jail.
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1338715369566048256
I’m getting pretty sick of Lin Wood. I think he’s in this for his personal brand, and is not committed to anything that doesn’t further him personally.
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President Trump retweeted that Lin Wood tweet. Perhaps he thinks or knows that Kemp and Raffensberger will be going to jail.
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President Trump retweeted that Lin Wood tweet. Perhaps he thinks or knows that Kemp and Raffensberger will be going to jail.
With the swamp track record at the DoJ, I seriously doubt it.
We have witnessed over 4 years crimes that would put an ordinary citizen behind bars, and the only ones suffering the wrath of the DoJ are anyone associated with Trump, and those were either set up by the FBI, or process crimes the DoJ used.
Comey lied under oath. Brennan and Clapper lied under oath. McCabe lied under oath. Hillary destroyed evidence under subpoena. Rosenstein plotted against the President and also leaked information from the DoJ. Comey admitted leaking information from the FBI.
And the list goes on. Their punishment? Book deals, gigs as cable news pundits and adoration of the leftist mob.
We have a two tiered justice system now, like it or not. Kemp and Raffensberger will be richly rewarded by the left. Xi will probably invite them to come to China to be seen with him.
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And BTW, the senate hearings today are a farce. Nothing but an opportunity for the leftist to get air time on the cable networks with well placed sound bites.
Republicans in the senate are playing along.
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With the swamp track record at the DoJ, I seriously doubt it.
We have witnessed over 4 years crimes that would put an ordinary citizen behind bars, and the only ones suffering the wrath of the DoJ are anyone associated with Trump, and those were either set up by the FBI, or process crimes the DoJ used.
Comey lied under oath. Brennan and Clapper lied under oath. McCabe lied under oath. Hillary destroyed evidence under subpoena. Rosenstein plotted against the President and also leaked information from the DoJ. Comey admitted leaking information from the FBI.
And the list goes on. Their punishment? Book deals, gigs as cable news pundits and adoration of the leftist mob.
We have a two tiered justice system now, like it or not. Kemp and Raffensberger will be richly rewarded by the left. Xi will probably invite them to come to China to be seen with him.
Martial law and military tribunals.
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President Trump retweeted that Lin Wood tweet. Perhaps he thinks or knows that Kemp and Raffensberger will be going to jail.
I’m really starting to feel like Charlie Brown, and Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, Bill Barr, John Durham, Sean Hannity are all taking turns playing Lucy holding the football.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/supreme-court-rejects-attempt-to-revive-kansas-voter-id-laws
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https://twitter.com/TrumpRulzz/status/1339018904472006656
(https://www.citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/sig-match.jpg)
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https://thenationalpulse.com/news/zuckerberg-election-influence/
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https://twitter.com/ForAmerica/status/1339247552361803776
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I was hoping someone would do this.
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1339272855809191936
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I was hoping someone would do this.
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1339272855809191936
If GA had a legislature this wouldn't even be an issue. But apparently their legislature, like in PA, MI and WI would rather go into hiding rather than represent the people who elected them.
Everything before us right now rest within the state legislatures, and they have the sole authority of correcting it. For those who live in PA, GA, WI and MI you need to think about that next time they come around wanting your support ($) and vote.
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https://twitter.com/beyouonlybetter/status/1339292353014755330
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https://twitter.com/beyouonlybetter/status/1339292353014755330
Is there any hope these people are being set up? Have they installed hidden cameras and stuff to catch them red handed? Could this have something to do with Lin Wood’s tweets about the top GA officials are getting ready to be jailed?
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https://twitter.com/beyouonlybetter/status/1339292353014755330
What prevents these watchers from opening the fence and moving close enough to see? I’d have a copy of the statute in my hand, and walk buy. If police remove me, they will be charged with interfering in an election.
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What prevents these watchers from opening the fence and moving close enough to see? I’d have a copy of the statute in my hand, and walk buy. If police remove me, they will be charged with interfering in an election.
On Nov 3 they were physically prevented and ejected from the building if they insisted.
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What prevents these watchers from opening the fence and moving close enough to see? I’d have a copy of the statute in my hand, and walk buy. If police remove me, they will be charged with interfering in an election.
That would be quite the video to show to the free press. Oh, wait..... no such thing exists.
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Is there any hope these people are being set up? Have they installed hidden cameras and stuff to catch them red handed? Could this have something to do with Lin Wood’s tweets about the top GA officials are getting ready to be jailed?
No.
This is the result of flippant career politicians doing as they please. They have already been shown the courts will protect them. Who do they have to fear? The voters? Nope, that threat has now been neutralized.
And where is the GA Republican Party? Where is the GA legislature?
Bueller? Bueller?
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No.
This is the result of flippant career politicians doing as they please. They have already been shown the courts will protect them. Who do they have to fear? The voters? Nope, that threat has now been neutralized.
And where is the GA Republican Party? Where is the GA legislature?
Bueller? Bueller?
crickets
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The GA Legislature will not be in session until January. It cannot call itself into session. The Governor would have to call a special session.
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The GA Legislature will not be in session until January. It cannot call itself into session. The Governor would have to call a special session.
ATLANTA — Georgia state Senate Republicans acknowledged in a release on Tuesday that there is "no avenue" toward a special session of the state legislature or overturning the state's election results.
The statement by the Georgia Senate Republican Caucus noted that the "state constitution precludes us from calling a special session due to the lack of a three-fifths majority in both chambers," and that, "even if we could secure the requisite numbers to convene, our laws provide no avenue for us to retroactively alter the results."
. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.11alive.com/amp/article/news/politics/georgia-senate-republicans-acknowledge-special-session-not-happening/85-67d8d9fc-121c-4c17-9d5a-1b6192fa219b
This however does not preclude the members of the legislature from demanding a fair assessment of the signature validation. Where the hell is Doug Collins? Where is Perdue? Loeffler?
Has Georgia really turned into Michigan minus the shitty roads and weather? How has Stacy Abrams, a total fuckin’ nutcase, amassed so much power?
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. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.11alive.com/amp/article/news/politics/georgia-senate-republicans-acknowledge-special-session-not-happening/85-67d8d9fc-121c-4c17-9d5a-1b6192fa219b
This however does not preclude the members of the legislature from demanding a fair assessment of the signature validation. Where the hell is Doug Collins? Where is Perdue? Loeffler?
Has Georgia really turned into Michigan minus the shitty roads and weather? How has Stacy Abrams, a total fuckin’ nutcase, amassed so much power?
That’s GOVERNOR Abrams to you, sir. She identifies as Governor, and thus has the power of governor. Don’t you know how this works?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ODNIgov/status/1339356234777047051
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20-815/163875/20201215164905775_Final%20Michigan%20Notice%20of%20Supplemental%20Authority.pdf
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20-815/163875/20201215164905775_Final%20Michigan%20Notice%20of%20Supplemental%20Authority.pdf
If they reject that one.........
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Just stole that. It’s perfect.
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https://bannonswarroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/The-Immaculate-Deception-12.15.20-1.pdf
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Just stole that. It’s perfect.
I posted that the other day on Facebook. I haven’t been back yet to see if they banned me.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/more-voters-agree-there-was-election-fraud
For the second day in a row, a new voter survey has found support for President Trump’s vow to fight on with his challenge to the election, with more believing that it was plagued with fraud.
While a Tuesday Pew Research Center survey said that it was mostly Republicans who believed that fraud occurred, the new McLaughlin & Associates poll found that all voters, by a 46%-45% margin, believed that there was fraud.
That surprised the pollsters, especially since they also reported that more in the survey voted for Joe Biden over Trump.
“Among American voters the majority is not convinced that voter fraud did not occur in their presidential election. It is important to note that the poll model reflects the national popular vote of 51% Biden, 47% Trump,” Jim and John McLaughlin said in a Newsmax column. They shared their charts with Secrets.
The duo, who polled for Trump's campaign, also said, “There is one stunning result in the entire poll: Americans believe there was a serious vote fraud problem in the last election.”
Democrats and the media have dismissed election fraud charges leveled by Trump’s team and supportive outside groups. Courts have also rejected Trump's efforts to question balloting despite evidence of dead people and illegal immigrants voting.
In the survey, voters also voiced support for Trump’s continued fight to change Washington, 52%-41%.
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So who does the verification? The same people as before?
Will the watchers be told to stand 30 feet away?
https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/secretary_raffensperger_launches_cobb_county_and_statewide_signature_match_audits
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https://www.axios.com/pentagon-biden-transition-briefings-123a9658-4af1-4632-a6e6-770117784d60.html
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Nothing to see here!
https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/18/breaking-maricopa-county-board-refuses-to-allow-audit-of-dominion-machines/amp/
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/georgia-poll-workers-who-raised-election-concerns-terminated
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/georgia-poll-workers-who-raised-election-concerns-terminated (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/georgia-poll-workers-who-raised-election-concerns-terminated)
Was just going to post this.....
https://www.ntd.com/georgia-whistleblowers-fired-before-senate-runoff-elections_542436.html
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Nothing to see here!
https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/18/breaking-maricopa-county-board-refuses-to-allow-audit-of-dominion-machines/amp/
I missed this last night, just posted a video in the other thread.
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https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1340180468239503361
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-huge-simple-math-shows-biden-claims-13-million-votes-eligible-voters-voted-2020-election/
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This article probably belongs in the joke thread. Hypocrisy be thy name!
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2020/12/19/its-not-a-conspiracy-theory-when-they-do-it-left-is-questioning-mitch-mcconnells-vote-totals-in-kentucky-n1221022
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https://therightscoop.com/a-must-watch-as-peter-navarro-details-coordinated-democratic-cesspool-of-fraud-bribery-abuse-in-2020-vote/
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213.8 million registered voters
66.2% voted in election
141.5 million total voters
74 million votes for Trump
That means only 67.5 million votes left. How'd Biden get over 80 million?
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213.8 million registered voters
66.2% voted in election
141.5 million total voters
74 million votes for Trump
That means only 67.5 million votes left. How'd Biden get over 80 million?
This is one of the many mathematical impossibilities that is evidence of fraud on a massive scale but we must all continue pretending the emperor has clothes.
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This is one of the many mathematical impossibilities that is evidence of fraud on a massive scale but we must all continue pretending the emperor has clothes.
Exactly. The statistical data, the analytics have continuously shown this think stinks. And the numbers don't lie.
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https://bigleaguepolitics.com/video-michigan-election-worker-stops-investigation-into-suspicious-ballots-at-risk-limiting-audit-in-antrim-county/
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https://rumble.com/vbyvln-a-close-look-at-the-data-arizona.html
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This is one of the many mathematical impossibilities that is evidence of fraud on a massive scale but we must all continue pretending the emperor has clothes.
Or it could be the 66.2 percent represents the "voting eligible population"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/elections/voter-turnout/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/elections/voter-turnout/)
The voting-eligible population in the U.S. ahead of the November 3 election was just over 239 million people, according to the U.S. Elections Project (https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html), with 160 million people having voted, making 2020 turnout a predicted 66.9 percent.
https://www.newsweek.com/election-2020-voter-turnout-67-percent-highest-120-years-1544552 (https://www.newsweek.com/election-2020-voter-turnout-67-percent-highest-120-years-1544552)
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On December 13 DHS and CISA issued an emergency directive for federal agencies about the SolarWinds Orion Code Compromise”
https://discover.lastobject.com/cotton-qtips-and-swabs/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_5rHv4ze7QIV14nACh1vaQvzEAEYASAAEgIyq_D_BwE
SolarWinds is used by Dominion voting machines and was displayed on their website until recently. They have removed the reference.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-12-15/dominion-voting-systems-deleted-solarwinds-reference-their-website
The FBI, Texas Rangers and US Marshall’s raided the SolarWinds facility in Austin on December 14.
Is what was confiscated in the raid going to show up in the expected ODNI report?
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National Review weighs in:
‘It Must Have Been Stolen’
Debunking a myth
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2020/12/31/it-must-have-been-stolen/
Excerpt:
"How can you spot a stolen election? Maybe just as important, how can you spot an election that isn’t stolen? You can never be entirely certain when the margins are fairly close, which is why stolen-election theories hold a natural attraction for conspiracy-minded partisans. But in terms of evidence, there are three signs to look for that might show that an election’s outcome was the result of fraud by voters or election officials: (1) direct evidence of illegally counted or discounted votes, (2) evidence of an unlawful process, and (3) anomalous results that make sense only if the election was fraudulent.
In the 2020 presidential election, Donald Trump and his supporters have claimed to find all three. But the evidence presented of actual fraud has been persistently underwhelming and often just wrong. Trump’s legal team has, in multiple cases, withdrawn claims that it could prove fraud when it came time to lay its proof on the table. Everywhere it has tried to prove fraud with evidence in court, it has failed. Even the best arguments for direct proof of fraudulent votes end up a long distance from the tens of thousands of votes across multiple states that would be needed to overturn the outcome. Multiple conservative judges, several of them Trump appointees to the federal bench, have reached this conclusion...."
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National Review weighs in:
‘It Must Have Been Stolen’
Debunking a myth
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2020/12/31/it-must-have-been-stolen/
Excerpt:
"How can you spot a stolen election? Maybe just as important, how can you spot an election that isn’t stolen? You can never be entirely certain when the margins are fairly close, which is why stolen-election theories hold a natural attraction for conspiracy-minded partisans. But in terms of evidence, there are three signs to look for that might show that an election’s outcome was the result of fraud by voters or election officials: (1) direct evidence of illegally counted or discounted votes, (2) evidence of an unlawful process, and (3) anomalous results that make sense only if the election was fraudulent.
In the 2020 presidential election, Donald Trump and his supporters have claimed to find all three. But the evidence presented of actual fraud has been persistently underwhelming and often just wrong. Trump’s legal team has, in multiple cases, withdrawn claims that it could prove fraud when it came time to lay its proof on the table. Everywhere it has tried to prove fraud with evidence in court, it has failed. Even the best arguments for direct proof of fraudulent votes end up a long distance from the tens of thousands of votes across multiple states that would be needed to overturn the outcome. Multiple conservative judges, several of them Trump appointees to the federal bench, have reached this conclusion...."
Bullshit and more bullshit.
Keep lying and maybe you will even start to believe the bullshit you are babbling..
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That article is all lies.
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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/heres-the-new-amistad-lawsuit-that-includes-mike-pence-as-defendant/
Trump supporters have now filed a lawsuit against a very unexpected target. The conservative Thomas More Society filed suit against Vice President Mike Pence and the entire electoral college in a bid to stop the greatest steal in American history.
The lawsuit names Pence as a defendant due to his “legal obligations under the Constitution and federal law” to preside over Congress’s ratification of the presidential election that’s due to take place on January 6th.
The suit claims that Pence should not be allowed to count the electoral college’s votes because state legislatures have not affirmatively voted to certify the Presidential electors. “The Vice President and U.S. Congress act unconstitutionally in this election and future elections when they count votes of Presidential electors where the respective state legislature has not affirmatively voted in favor of post-election certification,” the lawsuit states.
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National Review weighs in:
‘It Must Have Been Stolen’
Debunking a myth
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2020/12/31/it-must-have-been-stolen/
Excerpt:
"How can you spot a stolen election? Maybe just as important, how can you spot an election that isn’t stolen? You can never be entirely certain when the margins are fairly close, which is why stolen-election theories hold a natural attraction for conspiracy-minded partisans. But in terms of evidence, there are three signs to look for that might show that an election’s outcome was the result of fraud by voters or election officials: (1) direct evidence of illegally counted or discounted votes, (2) evidence of an unlawful process, and (3) anomalous results that make sense only if the election was fraudulent.
In the 2020 presidential election, Donald Trump and his supporters have claimed to find all three. But the evidence presented of actual fraud has been persistently underwhelming and often just wrong. Trump’s legal team has, in multiple cases, withdrawn claims that it could prove fraud when it came time to lay its proof on the table. Everywhere it has tried to prove fraud with evidence in court, it has failed. Even the best arguments for direct proof of fraudulent votes end up a long distance from the tens of thousands of votes across multiple states that would be needed to overturn the outcome. Multiple conservative judges, several of them Trump appointees to the federal bench, have reached this conclusion...."
So we are still waiting for someone who can take the evidence that's been presented so far and dispute it on it's merits, IOW use factual evidence to disprove it.
The article you just posted is so full of outright lies it's hard to say where to begin, or even if it's worth discussing at all.
The leftist and the establishment have nothing, so they resort to fabricating pure bullshit.
If His Fraudulancy makes it into the WH, he's going in under the most darkest of clouds. Why isn't he and his team working to show transparency to assure the American people he was legitimately elected? I can, and 80+ million can answer that one.
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So we are still waiting for someone who can take the evidence that's been presented so far and dispute it on it's merits, IOW use factual evidence to disprove it.
The article you just posted is so full of outright lies it's hard to say where to begin, or even if it's worth discussing at all.
The leftist and the establishment have nothing, so they resort to fabricating pure bullshit.
If His Fraudulancy makes it into the WH, he's going in under the most darkest of clouds. Why isn't he and his team working to show transparency to assure the American people he was legitimately elected? I can, and 80+ million can answer that one.
You are so full of suit your breath stinks.
Just because the court is too concerned with political fallout to enforce the constitution does make a ducking lie you tell true.
Go Fuck yourself with your neighbors rusty shovel blade.
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You are so full of suit your breath stinks.
Just because the court is too concerned with political fallout to enforce the constitution does make a ducking lie you tell true.
Go Fuck yourself with your neighbors rusty shovel blade.
Uhhhhhhh........................... OK ???
Hitting the "eggnog" a little early today?
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Maybe this time mikey hacked number7's account...
???
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Maybe this time mikey hacked number7's account...
???
Haha.
I took it as number7 agreeing with Lucifer and directing the comment to palmpilot and Luci knows it and is just messing with number7.
And I’m just adding this unnecessary post because I’m bored right now.
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Haha.
I took it as number7 agreeing with Lucifer and directing the comment to palmpilot and Luci knows it and is just messing with number7.
And I’m just adding this unnecessary post because I’m bored right now.
ok.... maybe... sometimes I'm really really REALLY bad at picking up sarcasm/satire... even though I use it a lot.
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Uhhhhhhh........................... OK ???
Hitting the "eggnog" a little early today?
Not you.
The post previous to which you replied set me off.
I'm so fucking sick of communists who call themselves democrats...
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Not you.
The post previous to which you replied set me off.
I'm so fucking sick of communists who call themselves democrats...
LOL..............OK ;) ;D
On a side note, the post that pissed you off is from a resident of the largest shithole state in the country. Hope he enjoys the tyranny he now lives under, his abysmal high taxes and strangling regulations. I'm sure he enjoys having his electricity rationed out as well.
I have to assume when one lives surrounded by shit and covered in shit, they start to believe everyone else wants the same.
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https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-audio-democrat-whistleblower-exposes-biden-campaign-voter-fraud-operation/
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https://thenewamerican.com/nsa-whistleblower-kirk-wiebe-exposes-digital-election-rigging-using-cias-hammer-and-scorecard/
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Uhhhhhhh........................... OK ???
Hitting the "eggnog" a little early today?
Forget it, he's rolling.
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Forget it, he's rolling.
Like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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...IOW use factual evidence to disprove it.
This is the big failure. A (decreasing) number of Republicans are asserting that the election was stolen, then demanding that facts be presented to prove it isn't. No amount of facts can prove a negative.
Of course, there is still have no amount of facts, so have at it.
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This is the big failure. A (decreasing) number of Republicans are asserting that the election was stolen, then demanding that facts be presented to prove it isn't. No amount of facts can prove a negative.
Of course, there is still have no amount of facts, so have at it.
And I can point to several sources that say increasing numbers of citizens (both D and R) are suspicious of election fraud. Plus there are a growing number in congress that are willing to object on January 6th.
Also, the leftist refuse to address the evidence. If they were so confident that this is nonsense and easily disprovable, then why not disprove it? Also, if Biden gets inaugurated, he is going into the WH with a horrible dark cloud hanging over him where half the country views him as a fraud. Yet we see no transparency whatsoever from him or his camp.
Finally, why does these states so adamantly refuse to allow the voting machines to be analyzed by forensic techs? Wouldn't that put to bed any lingering doubts over the machines? Especially since the few machines that were analyzed have already been found to be corrupted? And we are still waiting on anyone from the left to explain the massive vote dumps in the middle of the night. Again, experts in the field have stated their findings on the vote dumps, but the left can't answer intelligently why they happened. Nor can anyone from the left explain why spoiled ballot rejection has dropped to an historic low.
For a group who keeps claiming no election fraud took place they sure are fighting to keep anyone from proving them right.
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This is the big failure. A (decreasing) number of Republicans are asserting that the election was stolen, then demanding that facts be presented to prove it isn't. No amount of facts can prove a negative.
Of course, there is still have no amount of facts, so have at it.
They can prove it by releasing the dominion machines for forensic examination but they won’t. The one instance they did they had already deleted the logs that proved fraud which in itself is strong evidence they had something to hide. Stop believing social media fact checkers.
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They can prove it by releasing the dominion machines for forensic examination but they won’t. The one instance they did they had already deleted the logs that proved fraud which in itself is strong evidence they had something to hide. Stop believing social media fact checkers.
Under the law, destroying evidence is an admission of guilt.
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https://mclaughlinonline.com/2020/12/15/newsmax-article-mclaughlin-poll-mclaughlin-poll-majority-see-vote-fraud-as-national-problem/
There is one stunning result in the entire poll: Americans believe there was a serious vote fraud problem in the last election.
Although Election Day is over a month ago, when we asked — “Do you believe there was election and voter fraud in the presidential election between Joe Biden and Donald Trump back in November?” — the plurality of voters, 46%, said yes, with only 45% saying no.
Among American voters the majority is not convinced that voter fraud did not occur in their Presidential election. It is important to note that the poll model reflects the national popular vote of 51% Biden, 47% Trump.
It is concerning that in this poll where a majority of voted for Biden, they still can’t say it was an honest election.
As our presidential electors went this week to cast their votes, almost half the voters said there was clear election and voter fraud.
Since Election Day, and despite media spin the election fraud story is a big nothing, belief among voters of serious vote fraud has grown.
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https://thenationalpulse.com/commentary/cortes-if-biden-were-sure-of-his-victory-hed-welcome-transparency/
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https://twitter.com/shot_gangster/status/1342222355913797632
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Under the law, destroying evidence is an admission of guilt.
When you are a liberal evidence is so racist...
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What's interesting it with Liberals it's the seriousness of the charge no the nature of the evidence.
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They can prove it by releasing the dominion machines for forensic examination but they won’t. The one instance they did they had already deleted the logs that proved fraud which in itself is strong evidence they had something to hide. Stop believing social media fact checkers.
I’m not on social media.
To me, this looks like tilting at windmills. Meanwhile, nothing is being done to secure future elections.
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I’m not on social media.
To me, this looks like tilting at windmills. Meanwhile, nothing is being done to secure future elections.
That's why they are trying to get this into the courts and trying to get the various state legislatures to act.
You are correct, if this doesn't get shown and fixed now, then nothing will be done to fix it in the next election. At best all we could hope for are some nonsense hearings where we will watch grandstanding and hear recommendations that will never implement.
Or even worse a presidential commission that will waste millions of dollars and draft a worthless report.
State Legislatures have to act and regain their constitutional control of the election process.
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I’m not on social media.
This here board is " social media" or maybe anti-social.
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This here board is " social media" or maybe anti-social.
Different argument. It's not public in the sense that you need a login and it's not in the web index like POA is. A number of times I've googled for information to answer a question on POA only to get the POA thread as the top result.
I've reached the conclusion that we disagree on what constitutes evidence or at least substantial evidence. If you believe whats out there as proof that the election was stolen, then you must also conclude that president trump committed rape because the level of proof (personal testimony by a partisan person) is the same.
I've also become more firm in my belief that Republicans would rather bitch about something than fix it.
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I’ve come to the conclusion that leftist and closet leftist only care about the law and the constitution when it suits their needs. And when they are on the wrong side of the law they obfuscate and twist, and use law fare tactics to avoid being caught.
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I’ve come to the conclusion that leftist and closet leftist only care about the law and the constitution when it suits their needs. And when they are on the wrong side of the law they obfuscate and twist, and use law fare tactics to avoid being caught.
The left really wish to abolish the constitution and rewrite it to suit their beliefs and needs.
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If you believe whats out there as proof that the election was stolen, then you must also conclude that president trump committed rape because the level of proof (personal testimony by a partisan person) is the same.
I believe that there is enough out there to justify a real investigation. It is more than just allegations. I think it is unconscionable that people defend sticking our collective heads in the sand and ignoring this.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/republicans-biden-election-fairly-won
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I've also become more firm in my belief that Republicans would rather bitch about something than fix it.
I've come to the same conclusion. I've heard it said: Republicans hold office, Democrats hold power. It seems that Republicans are much more comfortable being second place. Even when they hold all the offices, they still refuse to use power. Anything that threatens this way things are (as Trump did) must be destroyed.
The reasons for this, I don't know. But Democrats love power and use that power to gain more power. What Republicans love, I don't know. But Trump has shown that there is another way. Both power and wealth (for everyone!) through office. And that can't stand. It's just not the way things have always been done. I truly hope that Trump has wakened the silent majority and set them finally in motion.
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I've come to the same conclusion. I've heard it said: Republicans hold office, Democrats hold power. It seems that Republicans are much more comfortable being second place. Even when they hold all the offices, they still refuse to use power. Anything that threatens this way things are (as Trump did) must be destroyed.
The reasons for this, I don't know. But Democrats love power and use that power to gain more power. What Republicans love, I don't know. But Trump has shown that there is another way. Both power and wealth (for everyone!) through office. And that can't stand. It's just not the way things have always been done. I truly hope that Trump has wakened the silent majority and set them finally in motion.
Agreed. Democrats think they are ROYALTY and know better for everyone. They are huge Control Freaks and use Big Government as their vehicle to do so.
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The left really wish to abolish the constitution and rewrite it to suit their beliefs and needs.
Well, I think they don't believe in the rule of law, which is one reason I cannot support them. To the left, the law is a weapon to be used to get their way.
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https://wpcdn.zenger.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/24190822/2020-12-23-Sidney-Powell-Team-Binder-ZENGER-NEWS.pdf
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“If Congress refuses to act before January 6, I will object to the electoral college vote submissions on the House floor on behalf of the millions of Americans, myself included, who do not trust the validity of this election.”
Brian Babin
https://babin.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=6869&utm_campaign=2078-387
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It appears Stacy Abrams is the de facto Governor of Georgia.
She certainly has more power than the guy that claims to be the governor.
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New York Post:
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/12/201227-trump-editorial.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1)
https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/
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New York Post:
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/12/201227-trump-editorial.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1)
https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/
And yet another drive by posting by Richard. ::)
But it does highlight just how nervous the leftist are getting. For a group that believes they have this sewn up and done they sure are wetting themselves for Trump to concede.
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save the Trump legacy....
Suddenly the far left zoombies care about the Trump legacy.
How interesting...
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And yet another drive by posting by Richard. ::)
But it does highlight just how nervous the leftist are getting. For a group that believes they have this sewn up and done they sure are wetting themselves for Trump to concede.
Yes, they know their days are numbered especially people like the hypocritical, dishonest, poster you quoted. What a tool.
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https://gohmert.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=399897
Congressman Louie Gohmert (TX-01) released the following statement regarding the lawsuit filed against the Vice President:
“The 2020 presidential election was one we'd expect to see in a banana republic, not the United States of America. In fact, the rampant fraud and unconstitutional actions that took place were so egregious that seven contested states-- Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin all sent dueling slates of electors to Congress. This puts Vice President Mike Pence in a position where some argue he has to choose between morality and the law. That is not the case.
“It is also critical to note that as many formerly in the mainstream media, now the Alt-Left media, continue to say that every court has said there is no evidence of fraud. That is disingenuous, deceitful, and flat out dishonest. The truth is that no court so far has had the morality and courage to allow evidence of fraud to be introduced in front of it.
“We continue to hold out hope that there is a federal judge who understands that the fraud that stole this election will mean the end of our republic, and this suit would insure that the Vice-President will only accept electors legitimately and legally elected. There must be an opportunity for a day in court when fraud was this prevalent.
“It is for this reason that I and other plaintiffs have filed a complaint for expedited declaratory and emergency injunctive relief to seek judgement from the court on the Vice President's authority when presiding over the Senate during the Joint Session of Congress. We are asking the court to uphold the powers laid out in the United States Constitution which grant the Vice President the exclusive authority and sole discretion in determining which electoral votes to count. As outlined in the filing, the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional because it directs Vice President Pence to legitimize electoral votes in violation of the Electors Clause and limits or eliminates his Twelfth Amendment authority to determine which slates of electors should be counted and which, if any, may not be counted. This is fundamental because no statute can constitutionally supply rules to the extent that such statute violates the U.S. Constitution.
Thanks to spineless politicians, corrupt state officials and a coordinated effort to undermine the will of the American people in favor of business as usual in the D.C. swamp, we now find ourselves in a place where a stolen election becomes just another one of the miscarriages of justice this town refuses to remedy. The D.C. elites want to sweep these electoral injustices under the rug, just as they have done with countless other scandals such as the Russia-collusion hoax, the Biden-Ukrainian quid-pro quo, and Hillary Clinton's mishandling of classified information, to mention only a few. For the sake of the future of our Republic, come January 6th, Vice President Pence must be authorized to uphold the legal votes of millions of Americans and preserve our nation's great experiment in self-governance.”
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Meanwhile, in Arizona....
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3756988
John R. Lott
US Department of Justice
Date Written: December 21, 2020
Abstract
This study provides measures of vote fraud in the 2020 presidential election. It first compares Fulton county’s precincts that are adjacent to similar precincts in neighboring counties that had no allegations of fraud to isolate the impact of Fulton county’s vote-counting process (including potential fraud). In measuring the difference in President Trump’s vote share of the absentee ballots for these adjacent precincts, we account for the difference in his vote share of the in-person voting and the difference in registered voters’ demographics. The best estimate shows an unusual 7.81% drop in Trump’s percentage of the absentee ballots for Fulton County alone of 11,350 votes, or over 80% of Biden’s vote lead in Georgia. The same approach is applied to Allegheny County in Pennsylvania for both absentee and provisional ballots. The estimated number of fraudulent votes from those two sources is about 55,270 votes.
Second, vote fraud can increase voter turnout rate. Increased fraud can take many forms: higher rates of filling out absentee ballots for people who hadn’t voted, dead people voting, ineligible people voting, or even payments to legally registered people for their votes. However, the increase might not be as large as the fraud if votes for opposing candidates are either lost, destroyed, or replaced with ballots filled out for the other candidate. The estimates here indicate that there were 70,000 to 79,000 “excess” votes in Georgia and Pennsylvania. Adding Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, and Wisconsin, the total increases to up to 289,000 excess votes.
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The Georgia Senate Judiciary Subcommittee is meeting live. www.saraacarter.com to get to the stream. That most recent guy that presented was absolutely fabulous. Sorry I didn't get his name :(
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The Georgia Senate Judiciary Subcommittee is meeting live. www.saraacarter.com to get to the stream. That most recent guy that presented was absolutely fabulous. Sorry I didn't get his name :(
The GA senate is feckless. These hearings are just mental masturbation exercises. All the GA senate and the PA senate is doing is running the clock out.
Stacy Abrams is in fact the de facto governor of GA, she holds far more power than Kemp and she's unafraid to show it, and even rub people's noses in it.
Next week GA will have two far left socialist as their new senators. GA is on their way to becoming the new Michigan.
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Watching this is making me sick.
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Watching this is making me sick.
Agreed. Just window dressing. All for show. “See, we’re concerned!”
Oh, and “Please vote for us in 2022!”
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Jovan Pulitzer is the guy that, for me, had the most impact on this hearing. You can find him with Duck Duck Go and catch some of his explanations.
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I can’t anymore. I’m in a plane in a straight vertical dive to the earth and no way to pull out of it. At a certain point I have to shut my eyes and pretend it’s not happening.
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I can’t anymore. I’m in a plane in a straight vertical dive to the earth and no way to pull out of it. At a certain point I have to shut my eyes and pretend it’s not happening.
well, at least you are flying...
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https://youtu.be/tyVRlaWHSeM
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Link to entire hearing
https://livestream.com/accounts/26021522/events/8730585/videos/215443723
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Once again, if they didn’t cheat, why won’t they release the ballots (machines) for examination.
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Once again, if they didn’t cheat, why won’t they release the ballots (machines) for examination.
(https://i.imgflip.com/22kpdz.jpg)
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Josh Hawley, senator from Missouri, is first to announce he will object to Biden’s electoral win on Jan 6.
https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1344307458085412867
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https://parler.com/post/eb073f7d7378454db1fc37163cb3a50b (https://parler.com/post/eb073f7d7378454db1fc37163cb3a50b)
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https://parler.com/post/eb073f7d7378454db1fc37163cb3a50b (https://parler.com/post/eb073f7d7378454db1fc37163cb3a50b)
Now the question is will the rest of the senate, the Gov and the SoS obstruct them? Or will they throw up road blocks to slow walk it?
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Now the question is will the rest of the senate, the Gov and the SoS obstruct them? Or will they throw up road blocks to slow walk it?
I assume the SoS will do all in his power to stop it.
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I assume the SoS will do all in his power to stop it.
Maybe the SoS and Gov will just rename Georgia to "South Michigan"? ::) Atlanta will become "New Detroit".
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BTW, has the runoff election been called for Ossoff and Warnock yet? :o
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BTW, has the runoff election been called for Ossoff and Warnock yet? :o
There's a part of me that wants them to win. I won't be around long enough for it to totally go to shit and my boys and their families will deserve what they get.
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So Fulton County is now destroying ballots before they can be analyzed.
Destroying evidence is an admission of guilt, not that it matters to South Michigan (formally known as Georgia)
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So Fulton County is now destroying ballots before they can be analyzed.
Destroying evidence is an admission of guilt, not that it matters to South Michigan (formally known as Georgia)
How can they be destroying evidence when there is no evidence? Just ask bflynn.
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How can they be destroying evidence when there is no evidence? Just ask bflynn.
Yea................
So much transparency. They are so confident in the election results that they are fighting subpoenas to allow voting machines to be analyzed, destroying ballots which under law are suppose to be kept for 22 months.
Georgia had over 10,000 dead people that voted. PA has over 200,000 votes with zero traceability. AZ is estimating fraud votes in excess of 160,000, NV had thousands using the same address of a campground, WI has confirmed 200,000 votes that are ineligible, etc, etc, etc...........
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So Fulton County is now destroying ballots before they can be analyzed.
Destroying evidence is an admission of guilt, not that it matters to South Michigan (formally known as Georgia)
Link?
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https://monicamatthews.com/podcast/exclusive-jovan-pulitzer-shares-breaking-news-ga-polling-station-online-with-china-fulton-county-hiding-evidence-after-senate-forensic-audit-resolution-senator-brandon-beach-tells-all/
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Thanks. My bet was Fulton county would not have been able to find that batch of ballots to turn over anyway. Supposedly, it is illegal to destroy those ballots at this time. I bet no one pays the price, if that is what happened.
The other day Jovan said they had hacked into a wireless network the poll pads were on and he said they are not supposed to be on a network. I'm not sure how those devices could work without being on a network. They are used to scan your license or Id to verify it. At our polling place there are a couple of tables with them being used. Seems like they would have to connect to some sort of central database to function properly.
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Thanks. My bet was Fulton county would not have been able to find that batch of ballots to turn over anyway. Supposedly, it is illegal to destroy those ballots at this time. I bet no one pays the price, if that is what happened.
The other day Jovan said they had hacked into a wireless network the poll pads were on and he said they are not supposed to be on a network. I'm not sure how those devices could work without being on a network. They are used to scan your license or Id to verify it. At our polling place there are a couple of tables with them being used. Seems like they would have to connect to some sort of central database to function properly.
The culpability of the Dominion machines have already been proven, over and over. The lies of the machines (secure, no internet connection) have been revealed, over and over.
Yet, our Justice Dept has completely folded. The FBI immediately dispatched a plane with 15 Special Agents to investigate a supposed noose in Bubba Wallace's garage, but when it comes to voter fraud issues they are only interested in harassing those that filed complaints.
States like Texas refused to have Dominion machines because they were shit, but the socialist democrat states embraced them. Even right now South Michigan (Georgia) is using the same flawed machines for the Jan 5th runoff. Anyone willing to place a bet on the winners?
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For Georgia, here are the numbers of ballots not conforming to federal and state law. And never mind that the ballot rejection rate dropped from 3.5% in previous elections to 0.34% in 2020.
And never mind the surveillance video tape showing fraudulent ballots being run through the tabulators multiple times after the room was cleared. And disregard the Dominion forensic audit clearly showing votes being flipped. And no reason to look into why a warehouse of ballots was suddenly being emptied when the state legislature wanted to see the ballots and audit them.
Absentee ballots applied for too early.
305.000
Underaged votes.
66.247
Failed to reregister moving from one county to another
40.279
Voted in GA but changed address before the election.
15.700
Dead people voted.
10.315
Registered in another state but voted in GA
4.926
Ballots send to voters too early.
2.664
Felons voted illegally.
2.560
Unregistered voters
2.423
Voted in GA, but registered in another state.
395
Ballots registered too late.
98
450,607
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I'd like to see a stat on parents voting for their "developmentally challenged" adult children. In my small sample size, I know of one for sure.
For Georgia, here are the numbers of ballots not conforming to federal and state law. And never mind that the ballot rejection rate dropped from 3.5% in previous elections to 0.34% in 2020.
And never mind the surveillance video tape showing fraudulent ballots being run through the tabulators multiple times after the room was cleared. And disregard the Dominion forensic audit clearly showing votes being flipped. And no reason to look into why a warehouse of ballots was suddenly being emptied when the state legislature wanted to see the ballots and audit them.
Absentee ballots applied for too early.
305.000
Underaged votes.
66.247
Failed to reregister moving from one county to another
40.279
Voted in GA but changed address before the election.
15.700
Dead people voted.
10.315
Registered in another state but voted in GA
4.926
Ballots send to voters too early.
2.664
Felons voted illegally.
2.560
Unregistered voters
2.423
Voted in GA, but registered in another state.
395
Ballots registered too late.
98
450,607
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/update-letter-ted-cruz-6-gop-senators-4-senators-elect-sign-letter-reject-election-call-election-commission-10-day-emergency-audit-takes-place/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-senators-cruz-electoral-college-certification-audit
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/update-letter-ted-cruz-6-gop-senators-4-senators-elect-sign-letter-reject-election-call-election-commission-10-day-emergency-audit-takes-place/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-senators-cruz-electoral-college-certification-audit
I knew Ted would come through.
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And no reason to look into why a warehouse of ballots was suddenly being emptied when the state legislature wanted to see the ballots and audit them.
No reason to audit unmarked excess ballots.
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No reason to audit unmarked excess ballots.
My understanding was the marked ballots were stored there as well. But now the discovery of all the additional ballots and why they were suddenly moved is opening new questions.
And in Arizona:
https://creativedestructionmedia.com/news/politics/2021/01/02/az-has-paper-ballots-but-no-one-can-see-them-as-law-requires/
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My understanding was the marked ballots were stored there as well. But now the discovery of all the additional ballots and why they were suddenly moved is opening new questions.
Close up pictures I saw showed unmarked ballots. Do you have some that show otherwise?
I have no doubt some strange shit went on and things were not right. What I do want to stay away from is jumping on every thing that gets tweeted or shows up somewhere.
There is currently an effort underway to discredit Jovan Pulitzer. I don't know much about him, his testimony seemed credible, except where he rushed in to say his group had hacked into the system and got into the poll pads saying they were on a hidden WiFi network. I don't see how the poll pads can work without being on WiFi, they are used to validate the voter against the database using your ID.
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More "non evidence".
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-election-data-shows-17650-votes-switched-from-trump-to-biden-data-scientists_3640670.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-02-1
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Close up pictures I saw showed unmarked ballots. Do you have some that show otherwise?
I have no doubt some strange shit went on and things were not right. What I do want to stay away from is jumping on every thing that gets tweeted or shows up somewhere.
There is currently an effort underway to discredit Jovan Pulitzer. I don't know much about him, his testimony seemed credible, except where he rushed in to say his group had hacked into the system and got into the poll pads saying they were on a hidden WiFi network. I don't see how the poll pads can work without being on WiFi, they are used to validate the voter against the database using your ID.
The fiasco started by wanting to get into the storage building where the ballots were held. Some private investigators got access and found the crates of unmarked ballots, which was very odd.
Then when Pulitzer got permission to go see the ballots trucks showed up and began loading pallets quickly to move to another facility.
So with all of this transparency in a free and fair election, someone is wanting to make sure outside entities can't get to these ballots.
Kinda like having the state BI do the signature match with no observers then declaring a ridiculous low number of spoiled ballots.
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https://patents.google.com/?assignee=Pulitzer+J+H
He does seem to have a lot of patents.
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https://www.ntd.com/more-than-400-ex-intelligence-officers-to-investigate-election-irregularities_548257.html
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More non evidence: https://tennesseestar.com/2021/01/03/still-no-chain-of-custody-documents-produced-in-georgia-for-76-percent-of-absentee-ballots-cast-two-months-ago-in-presidential-election/
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this one isn't funny... if you know what I mean..
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https://youtu.be/IKiyAy9vjrk
Maybe bflynn can answer some of the anomalies pointed out in the video. One would be, why were 106,000 of 113,000+ ballots in Fulton County adjudicated? How about the vote swap in Dodge County? I've done a little searching and cannot find out what type of system they use. The only thing that could explain it would be a hand entry error that was later caught. If hand entry was not used, then there is no explanation.
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https://youtu.be/IKiyAy9vjrk
Maybe bflynn can answer some of the anomalies pointed out in the video. One would be, why were 106,000 of 113,000+ ballots in Fulton County adjudicated? How about the vote swap in Dodge County? I've done a little searching and cannot find out what type of system they use. The only thing that could explain it would be a hand entry error that was later caught. If hand entry was not used, then there is no explanation.
Sure I can answer. I don’t have a clue and neither do you. That is truth, although you will still insist that yes, you do KNOW.
I will say the poll workers in that county need to be replaced. They obviously did something wrong because their outcome was so different than the rest of the state. I don’t believe incompetence is too strong a word. But I think I said that about 35 pages ago and it was rejected then, so I don’t expect anyone to have changed their opinion since.
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More fun and games from South Michigan (formerly Georgia)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-fulton-county-georgia-ballot-inspection-hearing-subverted-georgia-stalling-prevent-forensic-review-suspected-fraudulent-absentee-ballots/
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Too much.....
https://thepostmillennial.com/election-machine-company-dominion-intends-to-sue-sidney-powell
That would be so much fun to watch. Apparently these dumbasses haven't figured out that when the case moves to discovery that also entitles the defense. Just imagine all the stuff that Powell's defense team could ask for, and just imagine all the depositions the plaintiffs will undergo, the interrogatories, etc.
Go for it Dominion! Show 'em who's boss!
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Cunt.
First class cunt.
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If there is nothing to hide, then why is there no transparency?
https://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/status/1346212214101962752
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/ga-non-residential/
Judicial Watch announced today that Georgia voter data shows over 4,700 absentee voters in the presidential election listed non-residential addresses as their places of residence. Georgia law requires citizens registering to vote to reside “in that place in which such person’s habitation is fixed …” Judicial Watch yesterday shared its data with the Georgia Secretary of State and requested an investigation.
In total, 9,989 Georgia voters seem to be registered at non-residential addresses: 1,882 at commercial addresses, 1,336 registered at county and state governmental buildings, and 6,735 at either hotels or motels.
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(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5124.0;attach=1785;image)
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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/congress-certifies-election-evidence-these-voting-irregularities-looms
As Congress certifies election, evidence of these voting irregularities looms large
The storyline that voting irregularities claims are "baseless" is debunked by well documented evidence from courts, state officials and affidavits. That's why large numbers of state legislators are raising red flags.
Depending on the social circles and news sources one fancies, the 2020 election was either hijacked by fraud and irregularities, or so well run that its outcome is not in doubt and any claims to the contrary are, in the words of some reporters, "baseless."
But if we've learned one lesson in the era of incessant cable TV and social media, it's that the truth can't be hurried — and the sensationalized early headlines are often deceiving.
Remember, Trump colluded with Russia … until he didn't. And Jacob Blake was declared shot unarmed … when in fact he was armed with a knife. And let's not forget that Hunter Biden's business scandal was Russian disinformation … until he admitted he was under criminal investigation.
That is why more than 100 state legislators from the battleground states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Georgia sent an 11th hour letter Tuesday to Vice President Mike Pence saying they are not yet confident in the declarations that Joe Biden won their state and want 10 days to investigate further.
That's a large bloc, yes all Republican, but one that shouldn't be ignored when their letter includes a massive index of evidence of irregularities, some of which have been validated by court rulings, official government documents or sworn affidavits.
Just the News worked with more than three dozen journalists across the country for eight weeks trying to investigate claims of irregularities. Many got dismissed, but some were substantially documented by courts, election officials or testimony.
Here are some of the voting irregularities that the Just the News election integrity project documented:
Wisconsin illegally permitted large numbers of residents to evade voter ID requirements by simply declaring they were "indefinitely confined" at home because of COVID-19. Wisconsin's Supreme Court ruled in December that state officials violated the law when they allowed this mass exemption without getting required legislative approval, putting in doubt as many as 200,000 votes in a state where Biden and President Trump were separated by 200,000.
Officials in Fulton County, Georgia, home of the city of Atlanta, prematurely moved data cards from 36 voting machines before voting ended. State officials had advised the county that the cards should be removed just before they reached 10,000 votes, the apparent storage limit for the cards, but county officials admit they removed cards with as few as 3,000 counted votes and locked them in a cabinet. The exact reasons and chain of custody are not fully clear.
Jessy Jacob, a career Detroit city employee with three decades of experience, testified both in an affidavit and at a legislative hearing that for weeks leading to Election Day and at least one full day after, she and her fellow election workers were instructed to manipulate and alter ballots and voter rolls, including falsely backdating ballot requests and actual ballots. City officials have not provided evidence to contest her claims.
Multiple GOP election observers in states like Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania have testified they were wrongly dismissed on election night or kept from being able to provide bipartisan oversight as has been required and embraced for decades.
Wisconsin did not, as required by state law, purge between 100,000 and 200,000 outdated voter registrations from its rolls before the November contest as had been done in prior elections. Litigation concerning this oversight is ongoing.
Georgia state officials acknowledged last month they have 250 open cases of alleged voter fraud or irregularities from the 2020 election and rolled in additional state investigators to help.
In Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, state election officials allowed county clerks to "cure" or "fix" errant ballots without rejecting them though the state legislatures had not approved such mechanisms. Some counties engaged in "curing" while others did not, fearful such activity was illegal.
There are numerous other claims, like those of the Data Integrity Group, who have offered analyses of vote count irregularities, as well as videotape of apparent ballots in suitcases or trucks that have not been fully explained or investigated.
But those irregularities that have already been documented give many state legislators heartburn and a desire to investigate further in the new year as to whether the documented problems could have changed the outcomes. Wisconsin, in particular, is gaining momentum for further investigations
"We know laws were broken," Wisconsin State Rep. Joe Sanfelippo said in an interview Tuesday. "That's indisputable. What we don't know is whether the breaking of those laws affected the outcome of the election."
Sanfelippo said that is why he and other lawmakers are asking Pence for a week to 10-day delay to investigate.
"The U.S. Constitution gives us authority to determine how elections are run," he said. "All of that assumes the law is going to be followed by those who implement it. And now that we know the law wasn't followed in this election, so as state legislators is it up to us to determine did that have any effect on the outcome, to hold those people who didn't follow the law accountable and to make sure in the future those laws are followed."
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What a bullshit post.
Do you what you'll get if you audit a million votes? You'll still have a million votes because at this point you cannot disqualify a ballot. Other than the mark for Joe Biden, how can you identify a counterfeit ballot from a genuine one?
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What a bullshit post.
Do you what you'll get if you audit a million votes? You'll still have a million votes because at this point you cannot disqualify a ballot. Other than the mark for Joe Biden, how can you identify a counterfeit ballot from a genuine one?
That's been explained ad nauseam. You need basic intelligence to understand it, so...........