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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: acrogimp on March 14, 2016, 10:08:40 PM

Title: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: acrogimp on March 14, 2016, 10:08:40 PM
Politics makes strange bed fellows indeed.  To clarify, MoveOn.Org's George Soros' Soros Fund Management is the 6th largest PAC contributor for Kasich.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00009778&type=f

I could not even process the claim in my head the first several times I read it.

Wow.  I mean, um, wow.

'Gimp
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Anthony on March 14, 2016, 11:02:55 PM
Says a lot doesn't it.  He's not going anywhere.  At least that's something.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: nddons on March 15, 2016, 05:01:11 AM
Yea but...his dad was a mailman. Haters! 
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: PaulS on March 15, 2016, 05:21:32 AM
Says a lot doesn't it.  He's not going anywhere.  At least that's something.

He doesn't need to go far, just enough to dilute the vote.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Steingar on March 15, 2016, 08:52:20 AM
I hate Katich as governor, and he's the best candidate the GOP has.  I should really amend that.  He's the only candidate they have who isn't bat-shit crazy.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Joe-KansasCity on March 16, 2016, 05:05:17 AM
I hate Katich as governor, and he's the best candidate the GOP has.  I should really amend that.  He's the only candidate they have who isn't bat-shit crazy.

Based on that standard, what should we call the dregs of society Team D has fielded?
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 16, 2016, 05:17:31 AM
Based on that standard, what should we call the dregs of society Team D has fielded?

Oxygen thieves

Waste of DNA

Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Steingar on March 16, 2016, 08:21:12 AM
Based on that standard, what should we call the dregs of society Team D has fielded?

I call one of them Senator.  I call the other either First Lady, Senator, or madam Secretary. 
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 16, 2016, 08:34:50 AM
I call one of them Senator.  I call the other either First Lady, Senator, or madam Secretary.

and you genuflect when you say it...

Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Joe-KansasCity on March 16, 2016, 08:49:01 AM
I call one of them Senator.  I call the other either First Lady, Senator, or madam Secretary.

Your hypocrisy is showing... again
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Steingar on March 16, 2016, 01:43:56 PM
Your hypocrisy is showing... again

Perhaps you care to explain how calling someone "first lady" who was in fact a first lady, or "Senator", who was in fact a Senator, or "Madam Secretary", who indeed served as secretary of state is hypocrisy.  I could easily call your comment idiocy, however.  I'm almost ready to be rid of this board.  Not only am I alone, but I have to fend off utter tripe instead of informed discussion.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: acrogimp on March 16, 2016, 01:56:11 PM
Perhaps you care to explain how calling someone "first lady" who was in fact a first lady, or "Senator", who was in fact a Senator, or "Madam Secretary", who indeed served as secretary of state is hypocrisy.  I could easily call your comment idiocy, however.  I'm almost ready to be rid of this board.  Not only am I alone, but I have to fend off utter tripe instead of informed discussion.
Didn't you just call ALL of the Republican candidates other than Kasich batshit crazy?  Methinks thou dost protest too much.

'Gimp
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Steingar on March 16, 2016, 02:23:00 PM
Didn't you just call ALL of the Republican candidates other than Kasich batshit crazy?  Methinks thou dost protest too much.

'Gimp

Of the current crop, which ones aren't?  I'm surprised Trumpkins aren't all wearing brown shirts.  Cruz isn't crazy, he's much worse.  Rubio couldn't even win his own state.  I didn't like Kasich as governor, but I would never call him an incompetent.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Joe-KansasCity on March 16, 2016, 02:39:22 PM
Perhaps you care to explain how calling someone "first lady" who was in fact a first lady, or "Senator", who was in fact a Senator, or "Madam Secretary", who indeed served as secretary of state is hypocrisy.  I could easily call your comment idiocy, however.  I'm almost ready to be rid of this board.  Not only am I alone, but I have to fend off utter tripe instead of informed discussion.

No sir... the idiocy began with you claiming all but one GOP candidates are "bat-shit crazy".  One of which is a US Senator and may be the most accomplished attorney in recent history.  Another is a first generation legal immigrant who rose to the level of US Senator against huge odds and the third is one of the most successful individual businessmen in our country.  However, you choose to insult them and show respect for the two least accomplished people in the race for the Presidency.  Bernie is very likely the least accomplished public servant of our time. He's a communist hiding as a socialist (think about that for a second when you contemplate how far we have declined as a nation), and in my view truly un-American.  Then there is one of the most despicable human beings in public office who started off her career by getting booted from from the Watergate committee for fraud and ethics violations, and sunk to increasingly lower lows from that time to the present.

If you want to take your ball and go home to the faculty lounge, so be it.  However, if you have the intestinal fortitude to stick around, you might grow a little thicker skin should you chose to continue with the ridiculously idiotic statements.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: acrogimp on March 16, 2016, 04:36:01 PM
Of the current crop, which ones aren't?  I'm surprised Trumpkins aren't all wearing brown shirts.  Cruz isn't crazy, he's much worse.  Rubio couldn't even win his own state.  I didn't like Kasich as governor, but I would never call him an incompetent.
And Godwin!!

Pathetic.

'Gimp
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 16, 2016, 05:21:09 PM
I love Liberal logic.  Trump will be like Hitler and we'll have brown shirts overnight. Now if they want to do away with the 2nd and take everyone's guns and we make the argument that that leads to things like what Hitler did in Germany, they say it can't happen here.  Can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: FastEddieB on March 16, 2016, 05:43:21 PM
I love Liberal logic.  Trump will be like Hitler and we'll have brown shirts overnight.

Well, he seems to admire tales of war crimes - summary execution of POW's, for instance. Why repeat the story if not to send a message?

And he says he doesn't worry about officers not following illegal orders..."They'll follow them, don't worry".

And he's made numerous statements encouraging violence against protesters, either express or implied. Offered to pay legal fees for supporters who commit assault and/or battery. If that's not an open invitation, I don't know what is.

It all seems familiar to me. And I'm not a liberal.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Lucifer on March 16, 2016, 05:48:33 PM
And I'm not a liberal.

I'm having a hard time believing that statement.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: FastEddieB on March 16, 2016, 06:38:20 PM
I'm having a hard time believing that statement.

Would it hurt your feelings if I told you I don't give a shit?
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Lucifer on March 16, 2016, 07:00:25 PM
Would it hurt your feelings if I told you I don't give a shit?

Neither do I actually.

But I'm not the one continually making a case to support and vote for a democrat.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: asechrest on March 16, 2016, 07:12:31 PM
Neither do I actually.

But I'm not the one continually making a case to support and vote for a democrat.

He's not making the case to support a Democrat. He's making the case to subvert the potential success of a "Republican". You might think there is no difference, but there is.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Lucifer on March 16, 2016, 07:30:48 PM
He's not making the case to support a Democrat. He's making the case to subvert the potential success of a "Republican". You might think there is no difference, but there is.

Given almost 8 years of the worst President ever, and a candidate that wants to continue his legacy and policies, voting for her to subvert a republican candidate is pure fucking insanity.

Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: asechrest on March 16, 2016, 08:43:06 PM
Given almost 8 years of the worst President ever, and a candidate that wants to continue his legacy and policies, voting for her to subvert a republican candidate is pure fucking insanity.

Then, of course, there is the opposing position: voting for a loudmouth dickbag with despotic tendencies and a penchant for offering word salad in lieu of real solutions is pure fucking insanity.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 17, 2016, 05:03:57 AM
Then, of course, there is the opposing position: voting for a loudmouth dickbag with despotic tendencies and a penchant for offering word salad in lieu of real solutions is pure fucking insanity.

Then you don't support clinton or sanders?

Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Lucifer on March 17, 2016, 06:28:57 AM
Then you don't support clinton or sanders?

Exactly, he just described both of them fairly well.  Nice job!
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: asechrest on March 17, 2016, 06:35:47 AM
Then you don't support clinton or sanders?

Correct, I don't support them. Whether I'll vote for either of them come election time is a different question, which is my point.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 17, 2016, 07:01:08 AM
Correct, I don't support them. Whether I'll vote for either of them come election time is a different question, which is my point.

Voting for one of those is in fact support. 

Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: asechrest on March 17, 2016, 07:07:39 AM
Voting for one of those is in fact support.

Allow me to quote myself: "He's not making the case to support a Democrat. He's making the case to subvert the potential success of a "Republican". You might think there is no difference, but there is."
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Lucifer on March 17, 2016, 07:10:06 AM
Allow me to quote myself: "He's not making the case to support a Democrat. He's making the case to subvert the potential success of a "Republican". You might think there is no difference, but there is."

You're trying to spin it.  A vote for a candidate is support.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: asechrest on March 17, 2016, 07:26:36 AM
You're trying to spin it.  A vote for a candidate is support.


I consider only one of those "support" for a candidate. It's not spin, it's life in our Republic.

[Edit] - Grammar
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 17, 2016, 08:17:37 AM
Allow me to quote myself: "He's not making the case to support a Democrat. He's making the case to subvert the potential success of a "Republican". You might think there is no difference, but there is."

In reply #22, you wrote "Then, of course, there is the opposing position: voting for a loudmouth...."

It was that post I was responding to, and in that context suggested that you don't support bernie or clinton (because of not voting for a loudmouth....).

Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Lucifer on March 17, 2016, 08:18:36 AM
  • "I support Hillary, and will vote for her."
  • "Trump is the most dangerous candidate I've ever seen, and I will vote for whomever runs against him."
  • "I'm sick of the entire thing and will stay home on voting day."

I consider only one of those "support" for a candidate. It's not spin, it's life in our Republic.

[Edit] - Grammar

" From a seed of truth sprouts an entire tree of spin."
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: asechrest on March 17, 2016, 09:05:57 AM
" From a seed of truth sprouts an entire tree of spin."

Gandhi was so wise.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: asechrest on March 17, 2016, 09:11:34 AM
In reply #22, you wrote "Then, of course, there is the opposing position: voting for a loudmouth...."

It was that post I was responding to, and in that context suggested that you don't support bernie or clinton (because of not voting for a loudmouth....).

Right, and then you followed that up by stating that voting for Bernie or Hillary to prevent the opposing candidate from winning is "support". I disagree. Sometimes you're faced with two evils, and you choose the lesser of the two. It doesn't mean you "support" that evil, it means you're entirely interested in thwarting the greater doom.
Title: Re: George Soros is John Kasich's 6th Largest Donor?
Post by: Number7 on March 17, 2016, 04:42:40 PM
I hate Katich as governor, and he's the best candidate the GOP has.  I should really amend that.  He's the only candidate they have who isn't bat-shit crazy.

Coming from the party of Bernie Snaders and the Hil-da-beast, you make me laugh.