PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on July 22, 2021, 04:33:11 AM
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Our county hospital broke a record for Covid admissions on Tuesday.
Yesterday, they broke that record.
90% of admissions are from unvaccinated people. They now have 79 admitted patients. Twelve of them are on ventilators, which makes me think those cases are severe, as opposed to asymptomatic.
I read where one doctor said the last thing they often hear from patients prior to intubation is "Can I get the vaccine now", to which the doctor says "sorry, it's too late now".
I think this is good news. I have often said most of our social problems are caused by too many people. Darwin may prove to be our savior.
I thought that pilots had a better understanding of risk avoidance. "Yeah, 600,000 people have died from the virus, but four people got blood clots from the vaccine" so I'll take my chance with the virus.
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I've seen the same tripe, but it comes from the sympathetic media. Therefore, I consider it to be 99.99% bullshit.
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Our county hospital broke a record for Covid admissions on Tuesday.
Yesterday, they broke that record.
90% of admissions are from unvaccinated people. They now have 79 admitted patients. Twelve of them are on ventilators, which makes me think those cases are severe, as opposed to asymptomatic.
I read where one doctor said the last thing they often hear from patients prior to intubation is "Can I get the vaccine now", to which the doctor says "sorry, it's too late now".
I think this is good news. I have often said most of our social problems are caused by too many people. Darwin may prove to be our savior.
I thought that pilots had a better understanding of risk avoidance. "Yeah, 600,000 people have died from the virus, but four people got blood clots from the vaccine" so I'll take my chance with the virus.
Does that mean 10% are from vaccinated people? My understanding is that if you are vaccinated then there is virtually zero risk of getting sick enough to need hospitalization. So there’s a logical disconnect there.
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Media and big tech are also suppressing that there is a huge rise in the vaccinated that are getting Covid.
And of course, media glosses over or just ignores that those hospitalized with Covid have other medical problems, and are typically obese.
But hey, let’s crank up the fear porn once again, demand masking (which doesn’t work) and of course lockdowns. That way the DC Uniparty can drop another multi trillion dollar “stimulus” on us.
Finally, if Covid was that huge of a concern, why are we allowing hundreds of thousands to illegally enter our country with no testing for Covid while at the same time imposing travel restrictions on citizens at that exact same border???
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Our county hospital broke a record for Covid admissions on Tuesday.
Yesterday, they broke that record.
90% of admissions are from unvaccinated people. They now have 79 admitted patients. Twelve of them are on ventilators, which makes me think those cases are severe, as opposed to asymptomatic.
I read where one doctor said the last thing they often hear from patients prior to intubation is "Can I get the vaccine now", to which the doctor says "sorry, it's too late now".
I think this is good news. I have often said most of our social problems are caused by too many people. Darwin may prove to be our savior.
I thought that pilots had a better understanding of risk avoidance. "Yeah, 600,000 people have died from the virus, but four people got blood clots from the vaccine" so I'll take my chance with the virus.
The above post reads REMARKABLY like it was lifted and from some rag and re-posted here as if it were your actual experience.
IIRC that is exactly what scads of liberals do...
steingar comes to mind, as does the lame stream, pussy, sheep, media, school teachers, all ruled by their masters in the CCP.
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Does that mean 10% are from vaccinated people? My understanding is that if you are vaccinated then there is virtually zero risk of getting sick enough to need hospitalization. So there’s a logical disconnect there.
I don't believe anyone knowledgeable has ever said the vaccine is 100% effective. And the statements that I did hear about "practically" eliminating the need for hospitalization of vaccinated people were all before the emergence of the new variants.
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The above post reads REMARKABLY like it was lifted and from some rag and re-posted here as if it were your actual experience.
IIRC that is exactly what scads of liberals do...
steingar comes to mind, as does the lame stream, pussy, sheep, media, school teachers, all ruled by their masters in the CCP.
My statement did come from an article in our local rag. But the data was provided by the hospital, and it was backed up by my nephew who is a doctor at that hospital.
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Media and big tech are also suppressing that there is a huge rise in the vaccinated that are getting Covid.
And of course, media glosses over or just ignores that those hospitalized with Covid have other medical problems, and are typically obese.
But hey, let’s crank up the fear porn once again, demand masking (which doesn’t work) and of course lockdowns. That way the DC Uniparty can drop another multi trillion dollar “stimulus” on us.
Finally, if Covid was that huge of a concern, why are we allowing hundreds of thousands to illegally enter our country with no testing for Covid while at the same time imposing travel restrictions on citizens at that exact same border???
You have never heard me approve of mask mandates, lock downs or travel restrictions. In fact, I am also opposed to mandatory vaccines, or even bribing people to get vaccines. But except for a few people for whom the vaccine is medically contraindicated, I think reasonable people would choose to get the vaccine. I'm glad I did. And if you think that is "virtue signaling", at least I am not stuck at home under quarantine. If YOU don't get a vaccine, then YOU are at a higher risk of getting the virus than I am.
On the other hand, if too few people do get the vaccine, and it continues to run it's course, then more variants will emerge, and I will again be put at higher risk. Just not as high a risk as those that didn't get the vaccine.
As for allowing hundreds of thousands to illegally enter our country, I'd as soon shoot them on site rather that give them amnesty. See how quickly the flood would turn into a trickle after that. A side benefit would be all the legal liberal citizens that might be horrified into leaving the country. Mexico would probably have to close THEIR border to keep them out.
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You have never heard me approve of mask mandates, lock downs or travel restrictions. In fact, I am also opposed to mandatory vaccines, or even bribing people to get vaccines. But except for a few people for whom the vaccine is medically contraindicated, I think reasonable people would choose to get the vaccine. I'm glad I did. And if you think that is "virtue signaling", at least I am not stuck at home under quarantine. If YOU don't get a vaccine, then YOU are at a higher risk of getting the virus than I am.
On the other hand, if too few people do get the vaccine, and it continues to run it's course, then more variants will emerge, and I will again be put at higher risk. Just not as high a risk as those that didn't get the vaccine.
On your “virtue signaling” comment, no where in my post did I state that.
Again, our government doesn’t give a crap about Covid. That’s a fact. If they did, they would stop the illegals from coming in and spreading the virus. All the uniparty cares about is control and obedience. Covid provides that vehicle to accomplish that.
As for allowing hundreds of thousands to illegally enter our country, I'd as soon shoot them on site rather that give them amnesty. See how quickly the flood would turn into a trickle after that. A side benefit would be all the legal liberal citizens that might be horrified into leaving the country. Mexico would probably have to close THEIR border to keep them out.
My doctor advised me not to get the vaccine. He’s a medical professional and not a media personality or journalist (activist). He bases his medical opinions on actual science.
On your virtue signaling comment, no where in my post did I use that term or even imply such.
On Covid and the government, again, the government or the uniparty doesn’t give a shit about Covid. If they did, they would shut down the border and stop infected illegals from entering the country. But what they have done is placed restriction on citizens from crossing.
Covid is all about control and obedience, and Covid provides that vehicle.
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I don't believe anyone knowledgeable has ever said the vaccine is 100% effective. And the statements that I did hear about "practically" eliminating the need for hospitalization of vaccinated people were all before the emergence of the new variants.
In the last day or two heard a news reporter say that the vaccine virtually 100% prevents you from being sick enough to be hospitalized or die. So that was well after the new variants. However, the news reporter is hardly “knowledgeable”.
I hear all kinds of garbage about the new variant(s), from they are more deadly, to way less deadly, and that the vaccines are anywhere from not at all effective against them to nearly as effective as they are against the original. Averaging out all of this, I’m concluding the vaccine must at least greatly reduce your odds of needing hospitalization or dying, and is probably at least partially effective against variants. But who the hell knows what the truth is. I wish we had real journalism interested in facts and truth.
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In the last day or two heard a news reporter say that the vaccine virtually 100% prevents you from being sick enough to be hospitalized or die. So that was well after the new variants. However, the news reporter is hardly “knowledgeable”.
I hear all kinds of garbage about the new variant(s), from they are more deadly, to way less deadly, and that the vaccines are anywhere from not at all effective against them to nearly as effective as they are against the original. Averaging out all of this, I’m concluding the vaccine must at least greatly reduce your odds of needing hospitalization or dying, and is probably at least partially effective against variants. But who the hell knows what the truth is. I wish we had real journalism interested in facts and truth.
We are living under a regime that promotes propaganda and censorship. Like those under repressive regimes finding the truth can be difficult, but it’s out there.
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You have never heard me approve of mask mandates, lock downs or travel restrictions. In fact, I am also opposed to mandatory vaccines, or even bribing people to get vaccines. But except for a few people for whom the vaccine is medically contraindicated, I think reasonable people would choose to get the vaccine. I'm glad I did. And if you think that is "virtue signaling", at least I am not stuck at home under quarantine. If YOU don't get a vaccine, then YOU are at a higher risk of getting the virus than I am.
On the other hand, if too few people do get the vaccine, and it continues to run it's course, then more variants will emerge, and I will again be put at higher risk. Just not as high a risk as those that didn't get the vaccine.
As for allowing hundreds of thousands to illegally enter our country, I'd as soon shoot them on site rather that give them amnesty. See how quickly the flood would turn into a trickle after that. A side benefit would be all the legal liberal citizens that might be horrified into leaving the country. Mexico would probably have to close THEIR border to keep them out.
Almost like the flu ::)
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Almost like the flu ::)
Yep. If a majority of people would get the vaccine, then COVID would be no worse than the flu.
Of course though, I had the flue two or three times. One of them was bad enough that I felt at the time that I would prefer death. I have been getting the flu shot ever since then and never had the flu again.
So yeah, it can be a lot like the flu.
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I have two friends who are severely allergic to Polyethylene Glycol (PEG) and to polysorbate. They do want to get a vaccine but none are available without these ingredients. They are waiting for something else. Per the CDC:
If you are allergic to PEG, you should not get an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. Ask your doctor if you can get the J&J/Janssen vaccine.
If you are allergic to polysorbate, you should not get the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine. Ask your doctor if you can get an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.
What's missing is: if you're allergic to both, good luck.
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Yep. If a majority of people would get the vaccine, then COVID would be no worse than the flu.
Of course though, I had the flue two or three times. One of them was bad enough that I felt at the time that I would prefer death. I have been getting the flu shot ever since then and never had the flu again.
So yeah, it can be a lot like the flu.
What about all the people that have had Covid already? Why on earth are we wanting them vaccinated?
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I have two friends who are severely allergic to Polyethylene Glycol (PEG) and to polysorbate. They do want to get a vaccine but none are available without these ingredients. They are waiting for something else. Per the CDC:What's missing is: if you're allergic to both, good luck.
A few days ago I read an article about a young woman who cannot take the vaccine and was denied college entry.
She explained her physician stated the vaccine will kill her, and the university was “so what?, rules are rules”
Yep, “the science”.
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Yep. If a majority of people would get the vaccine, then COVID would be no worse than the flu.
Of course though, I had the flue two or three times. One of them was bad enough that I felt at the time that I would prefer death. I have been getting the flu shot ever since then and never had the flu again.
So yeah, it can be a lot like the flu.
I had the flu in 2018 bad enough I preferred death and I still won’t get the flu shot. I got a shot in 2016 only because my kid wouldn’t let me visit her newborn unless I did. Haven’t had one since and of course it did nothing to help me in 2018. What’s the point. Another flu shot every goddamn year and even then it’s only effective against a fraction of the actual flu varieties going around. Not worth the time and gasoline to drive to the pharmacy when I have had exactly ONE case of flu in 40 years and I might never get another. I’ll take my chances. If the next one kills me then all my problems will be over.
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Our county hospital broke a record for Covid admissions on Tuesday.
Yesterday, they broke that record.
90% of admissions are from unvaccinated people. They now have 79 admitted patients. Twelve of them are on ventilators, which makes me think those cases are severe, as opposed to asymptomatic.
I read where one doctor said the last thing they often hear from patients prior to intubation is "Can I get the vaccine now", to which the doctor says "sorry, it's too late now".
I think this is good news. I have often said most of our social problems are caused by too many people. Darwin may prove to be our savior.
I thought that pilots had a better understanding of risk avoidance. "Yeah, 600,000 people have died from the virus, but four people got blood clots from the vaccine" so I'll take my chance with the virus.
I read that exact article yesterday! “Sorry, it’s too late,” sob, sob, fear fear, you idiot for thinking for yourself, you deserve death, blah blah.
That piece of staged crap-spewing “doctor” has been TOTALLY DISCREDITED AS FAKE. I’ve saved so many links for the past several years that I’m trying to stop doing it, so didn’t save that one. I’ll look for it if you like.
Also, get over the death count. It’s fake, too. CDC has admitted they over counted, and by vast numbers. Keep up!!!
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for most people, the flu is nothing.
According to the CDC (I got this data before the covid-19 panic): In the USA, there are typically 40,000 to 60,000 flu deaths each flu season. The 2018-2019 flu season was somewhat milder than normal, with more than 34,000,000 cases, more than 16,000,000 medical visits related to the flu, almost 500,000 hospitalizations, and more than 34,0000 deaths.
btw - I wonder how many cases of the COVID-19 are actually cases of the flu. Remember that someone can be infected with covid-19 and not have any symptoms. Today, when a patient presents with flu-like symptoms, the patient is tested for covid-19. But how often is the patient also tested for the flu?
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What about all the people that have had Covid already? Why on earth are we wanting them vaccinated?
Those people could choose to get it or not. Just like everyone else. Personally, I think they should.
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Those people could choose to get it or not. Just like everyone else. Personally, I think they should.
Why?
Your background is medical, correct? I have the antibodies of Covid, and my immunity system is extremely healthy.
What will the vaccine do for me that my body hasn’t already done?
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A discussion of the aforementioned hype.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-retardery-increases.html
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Why?
Your background is medical, correct? I have the antibodies of Covid, and my immunity system is extremely healthy.
What will the vaccine do for me that my body hasn’t already done?
You would not allow those people that have already had the virus to get the vaccine? Why?
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You would not allow those people that have already had the virus to get the vaccine? Why?
How the hell did you get from Lucifer’s question “What will the vaccine do for me,” as he’s already immune, to the assumption that he “would not allow” others who’ve had the pathogen to get the vax?
Joe, I have to say, stop listening to your wife. You are showing signs of liberalism, and it’s scary.
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A discussion of the aforementioned hype.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-retardery-increases.html
In the comments. “She held their hands as they died and hugged their relatives.” Right!!!! A highly contagious disease there, eh???
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You would not allow those people that have already had the virus to get the vaccine? Why?
I didn’t say that.
From your medical background, why would a person who has the antibodies, and is healthy, get the vaccine?
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How the hell did you get from Lucifer’s question “What will the vaccine do for me,” as he’s already immune, to the assumption that he “would not allow” others who’ve had the pathogen to get the vax?
He asked What about all the people that have had Covid already? Why on earth are we wanting them vaccinated?
I said I would allow them the right to choose. He said "Why". Why would he (or anyone) NOT ALLOW them to choose to get the vaccine or not.
Joe, I have to say, stop listening to your wife. You are showing signs of liberalism, and it’s scary.
As for my wife and liberalism. I don't think this has anything to do with politics but I do think it is idiotic that so many people do think that and base their decisions accordingly.
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I noticed you don't respond to my comment about your bullshit post being lifted from elsewhere and posted as if it happened to you.
I guess the power of liberal bullshit is far greater then the truth to some.
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I noticed you don't respond to my comment about your bullshit post being lifted from elsewhere and posted as if it happened to you.
I guess the power of liberal bullshit is far greater then the truth to some.
I did respond to your post #4 in post #6.
I got the data from our local news paper. But they got the data from the local hospital and it was confirmed to me by my nephew who is a doctor at that hospital.
How the fuck else are we supposed to get that kind of information? The only problem is trying to figure out what to believe. If the hospital says they have 79 cases admitted, then I believe they have 79 cases admitted.
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I did respond to your post #4 in post #6.
I got the data from our local news paper. But they got the data from the local hospital and it was confirmed to me by my nephew who is a doctor at that hospital.
How the fuck else are we supposed to get that kind of information? The only problem is trying to figure out what to believe. If the hospital says they have 79 cases admitted, then I believe they have 79 cases admitted.
When you post in such a way as to make believe it's you, then your topic loses ALL credibility.
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When you post in such a way as to make believe it's you, then your topic loses ALL credibility.
I have no fucking idea what your problem is.
I read an article about the local hospital and I made a comment. The comments were mine.
On the other hand we know when your comments are really yours. They are full of 5th grade profanity and misspellings with no logic.
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I have no fucking idea what your problem is.
I read an article about the local hospital and I made a comment. The comments were mine.
On the other hand we know when your comments are really yours. They are full of 5th grade profanity and misspellings with no logic.
So... you get called out for plagiarism and instead of standing up like a man, you attack my original postings.
If you can't speak for yourself, try identifying the bullshit you put out as if it was tour own, as copied, and see if it doesn't end up being called out.
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So... you get called out for plagiarism and instead of standing up like a man, you attack my original postings.
If you can't speak for yourself, try identifying the bullshit you put out as if it was tour own, as copied, and see if it doesn't end up being called out.
What exactly is it that you think I plagiarized?
My comments were about two different articles. One was from the local news-paper. I don't know how to link to a piece of paper and the on-line part is behind a paywall in a PDF version of the paper.
The other was something I read on line elsewhere, as I stated. Becky read the same article.
I don't even know why I am wasting my time replying to you. You are using the same tactics liberals use to discredit conservatives; unfounded accusations.
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What exactly is it that you think I plagiarized?
My comments were about two different articles. One was from the local news-paper. I don't know how to link to a piece of paper and the on-line part is behind a paywall in a PDF version of the paper.
The other was something I read on line elsewhere, as I stated. Becky read the same article.
I don't even know why I am wasting my time replying to you. You are using the same tactics liberals use to discredit conservatives; unfounded accusations.
Had you properly linked and credited the article it would have been read differently.
My take was you were making personal commentary.
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I took it like he was relaying information he’d heard or read on the news and was commenting about it, it didn’t look to me at all like he was copying something verbatim.
“Our county hospital broke a record” sounds like Joe saying his county’s hospital broke a record. I bolded “I read where” below, obviously indicating he read it elsewhere. The last two paragraphs look like his own thoughts. I don’t get what the problem is, other than you disagree with his conclusion that we pilots are not supposed to be so stupid as to not get the vaccine.
Our county hospital broke a record for Covid admissions on Tuesday.
Yesterday, they broke that record.
90% of admissions are from unvaccinated people. They now have 79 admitted patients. Twelve of them are on ventilators, which makes me think those cases are severe, as opposed to asymptomatic.
I read where one doctor said the last thing they often hear from patients prior to intubation is "Can I get the vaccine now", to which the doctor says "sorry, it's too late now".
I think this is good news. I have often said most of our social problems are caused by too many people. Darwin may prove to be our savior.
I thought that pilots had a better understanding of risk avoidance. "Yeah, 600,000 people have died from the virus, but four people got blood clots from the vaccine" so I'll take my chance with the virus.
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I took it like he was relaying information he’d heard or read on the news and was commenting about it, it didn’t look to me at all like he was copying something verbatim.
“Our county hospital broke a record” sounds like Joe saying his county’s hospital broke a record. I bolded “I read where” below, obviously indicating he read it elsewhere. The last two paragraphs look like his own thoughts. I don’t get what the problem is, other than you disagree with his conclusion that we pilots are not supposed to be so stupid as to not get the vaccine.
No problem here.
He won't answer my question though. I would think someone who was a veterinarian would understand the concept of antibodies, immune system and the term "herd immunity".
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From your medical background, why would a person who has the antibodies, and is healthy, get the vaccine?
From your medical background, why would you even ask that question?
I don't have a medical background, but I do know that the variants are called variants because they're different. For each, there is a differing amount of protection against the other variants. We don't know if antibodies from one variant protect against all of them or against future ones. So far, we do know the vaccine usually works against the ones that are out.
Does the person how has antibodies and is healthy want "probably should work" or "we know it works"? Depending on the person, the assurance may be highly desirable.
That's not even that difficult a question, even with the lordly aspirations that a medical background is necessary to answer it.
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Had you properly linked and credited the article it would have been read differently.
My take was you were making personal commentary.
Thank you. But as I said, the main point of my post was read in an actual news PAPER. I can't link to that. The online version is a pdf copy of the paper so I can't cut and paste it, and the article itself is behind a paywall. Besides, the actual wording of the article does not matter as the point of my post was my opinion.
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No problem here.
He won't answer my question though. I would think someone who was a veterinarian would understand the concept of antibodies, immune system and the term "herd immunity".
I do understand that concept of antibodies, immune system and the term "herd immunity".
Antibodies may or may not fully develop from exposure to the live virus. Everyone's immune system is different and the term "herd immunity" only comes into play when a substantial number of specimens have developed sufficient antibodies, whether or not they come from actual exposure to the virus or from a vaccine. That "substantial number" varies with each type of disease and it's transmissibility.
So far, we have not had sufficient exposure to the disease (COVID), or sufficient vaccination levels to develop herd immunity. That is why I think we still need for more people to get the vaccine.
We vaccinate animals for rabies every year. Rabies is rather stable and doesn't mutate.
We also vaccinate for FeLV, FVRCP and other diseases several times initially and then every couple of years. Why? Because immunity isn't necessarily "one and done".
Very very few vaccines are 100% effective for life. Vaccines effect everyone to varying degrees. When dealing with the herd, you make decisions based on the overall picture, not the individual. It's better to vaccinate a few cattle that don't need it than to try to determine which ones are most at risk for the disease and thereby fail to vaccinate some that need it. The only time this doesn't hold true is if there are demonstrable side effects that are worse than the disease.
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From your medical background, why would you even ask that question?
I don't have a medical background, but I do know that the variants are called variants because they're different. For each, there is a differing amount of protection against the other variants. We don't know if antibodies from one variant protect against all of them or against future ones. So far, we do know the vaccine usually works against the ones that are out.
Does the person how has antibodies and is healthy want "probably should work" or "we know it works"? Depending on the person, the assurance may be highly desirable.
That's not even that difficult a question, even with the lordly aspirations that a medical background is necessary to answer it.
I'm going by what my doctor, who I trust and is a health professional, has told me and advised.
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I'm going by what my doctor, who I trust and is a health professional, has told me and advised.
That is exactly what you should do.
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The only time this doesn't hold true is if there are demonstrable side effects that are worse than the disease.
So 10,000+ dead is not a demonstrable side effect? 30,000+ hospitalizations? 60,000 urgent care visits? How about the 20,000 that had a severe allergic reaction? Or maybe those 4,000 that suffered heart attacks?
How about the 1,000 women that suffered miscarriage's?
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
I had covid, it was like a very mild 3 day cold. I'll take that over the vaccine any day.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/564243-new-jersey-officials-say-nearly-50-fully-vaccinated-residents-have-died?amp
New Jersey health officials say that almost 50 fully vaccinated people have died from COVID-19, according to data through July 12, NJ Advance Media reported on Wednesday.
Donna Leusner, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Health, told the news outlet that all 49 people who died were over 50 years old. Thirty were over 80 years old, 13 people were between 65 and 79 years old, and six were between 50 and 64 years old.
Leusner also said many of the people who died had preexisting conditions. Seventeen people had cardiovascular disease, nine had cancer or other conditions that compromised their immune systems and seven had diabetes, the news outlet reported. Others had chronic conditions in the lungs, kidney and liver.
The number of vaccinated people who have died from COVID-19 represents a slight uptick since New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy (D) announced on Monday that 31 inoculated people had died from the coronavirus, according to NJ Advance Media.
Anthony Fauci, the country's leading infectious diseases expert, has mentioned that breakthrough cases among fully vaccinated people is inevitable but has stressed that more than 99 percent of those who died from COVID-19 in June were not vaccinated.
In mid-June, New Jersey reported that 4.7 million people - or 70 percent of the state's adult population - were fully vaccinated, hitting the goal about two weeks earlier than expected, ABC 7 New York reported. About 5.1 million people are fully vaccinated in the state.
According to data from John Hopkins University, the state has reported deaths in the single digits since early June.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/cdc-quietly-deletes-6000-covid-vaccine-deaths-cdc-website-total-one-day-caught-internet-sleuths-video/
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https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-data-from-india-continues-to-blow-up-the-delta-fear-narrative
Rather than proving the need to sow more panic, fear, and control over people, the story from India — the source of the "Delta" variant — continues to refute every current premise of COVID fascism.
The prevailing narrative from Fauci, Walensky, and company is that Delta is more serious than anything before, and even though vaccines are even less effective against it, its spread proves the need to vaccinate even more people. Unless we do that, we must return to the very effective lockdowns and masks. In reality, India's experience proves the opposite true; namely:
Delta is largely an attenuated version, with a much lower fatality rate, that for most people is akin to a cold.
Masks failed to stop the spread there.
The country has come close to the herd immunity threshold with just 3% vaccinated.
Most people are now getting cold-like symptoms from Delta, but to the extent countries hit by Delta suffered some deaths and serious illness, they could have been avoided not with vaccines and masks, but with early and preventive treatment like ivermectin.
In other words, our government is learning all the wrong lessons from India, and now Israel and the U.K. Let's unpack what we know occurred in India and now in some of the other countries experiencing a surge in cases of the Indian "Delta" variant.
The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) recently conducted a fourth nationwide serological test and found that 67.6% of those over 6 years old in June and July had antibodies, including 85% of health care workers. This is a sharp increase from the 24.1% level detected during the December-January study. What we can conclude definitively is that strict mask-wearing (especially among health care workers) failed to stop the spread one bit. Yet now they have achieved herd immunity and burned out the virus with just 3% vaccination (now up to 6%) with roughly one-sixth the death rate of the U.S. and the U.K. and less than one-half that of Israel.
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So 10,000+ dead is not a demonstrable side effect? 30,000+ hospitalizations? 60,000 urgent care visits? How about the 20,000 that had a severe allergic reaction? Or maybe those 4,000 that suffered heart attacks?
How about the 1,000 women that suffered miscarriage's?
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data (https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data)
I had covid, it was like a very mild 3 day cold. I'll take that over the vaccine any day.
Put that one up on FB and it was immediately tagged by Fuckerberg.
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A handful of people showed up at the senile, pedophile, imposter's "town hall," where every question was staged and the senile one had an earpiece so his masters could give him answers, and the fucking imbecile couldn't come up with a cogent answer.
Obviously this freak show got more votes than any candidate in history.... obviously.
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even with the ear piece, the clown occupying the whitehouse is incoherent.
Does he have someone helping him handle hygiene?
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Obama is the puppet master here, what we're seeing the the continued "Fundamental transformation" of America.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Obama is the puppet master here, what we're seeing the the continued "Fundamental transformation" of America.
Yep. The smell of Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice are equally strong.
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A few days ago I read an article about a young woman who cannot take the vaccine and was denied college entry.
She explained her physician stated the vaccine will kill her, and the university was “so what?, rules are rules”
Yep, “the science”.
There will be thousands of college student denied their degrees because of the universities mandating a vaccine as a condition of attendance. Imagine paying for 3 years of Marquette University and entering your senior year, and being denied access.
I see a cottage industry of class action lawsuits happening. That’s one I would support.
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Yep. The smell of Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice are equally strong.
Yep. Jarrett runs the Obamas. Obama is advising foreign and domestic elite wrt Biden and controlling what he does. Jarrett reports to the same elite on Chocolate Jesus.
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(https://i.imgur.com/OJRLNpm.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/BhmGh7G.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/camus37/status/1419295198526545924
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https://twitter.com/camus37/status/1419295198526545924
Wow he nails it! The real epidemic is neurosis and it spreads like a virus until you have collective mob hysteria.
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https://thenationalpulse.com/analysis/if-corporate-reporters-had-any-integrity-here-are-the-questions-theyd-be-asking/
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https://thenationalpulse.com/analysis/if-corporate-reporters-had-any-integrity-here-are-the-questions-theyd-be-asking/
Wow. Well done. Beyond that, we are screwed.
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Something that people seem to be overlooking or deliberatly ignoring is that for many years there have been agencies and researchers looking at potential methods to help slow the spread of a pathogen, the so-called non-Pharmaceutical interventions (masks, distance, hygiene, sanitation). I'm pretty sure it was occuring before the 2003 SARS pandemic, but I've seen papers refering to it after 2003.
It's kind of disingenous to complain that the NPIs employed during the covid-19 pandemic were unproven. Well, it's because they really haven't been tried before, so, duh, they were unproven.
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Something that people seem to be overlooking or deliberatly ignoring is that for many years there have been agencies and researchers looking at potential methods to help slow the spread of a pathogen, the so-called non-Pharmaceutical interventions (masks, distance, hygiene, sanitation). I'm pretty sure it was occuring before the 2003 SARS pandemic, but I've seen papers refering to it after 2003.
It's kind of disingenous to complain that the NPIs employed during the covid-19 pandemic were unproven. Well, it's because they really haven't been tried before, so, duh, they were unproven.
We had bureaucrat's tossing these ideas around ignoring actual science. And they all failed. Those same bureacrats now want to start imposing those same failed tactics once again, because "science".
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Remember the whole social distancing theory was cooked up by a 15 year old out of thin air.
https://townhall.com/columnists/larryoconnor/2020/05/20/misguided-shutdown-policy-began-as-high-school-science-project-n2569154
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Thoughts to ponder. Sometimes my mind works overtime. Let's say you wanted to make some Red State Governors look bad. You have illegal immigrants coming across the border by the tens of thousands and many of them, number unknown, are COVID positive. You have to move them somewhere and turn them loose on society. Where might you be tempted to send them?
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Remember the whole social distancing theory was cooked up by a 15 year old out of thin air.
https://townhall.com/columnists/larryoconnor/2020/05/20/misguided-shutdown-policy-began-as-high-school-science-project-n2569154
I don't believe that social distancing was developed in 2006 nevermind by a high schooler
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I don't believe that social distancing was developed in 2006 nevermind by a high schooler
This version of it, quarantining healthy people, was.
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https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1419967829185544201
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People are idiots. I see more wearing masks again in stores, cars, out walking alone. Just maddening as it is indicative of how weak minded so many are. The believe the propaganda, vote Democrat, buy EVs, like BLM and do everything counter to what we should be doing going forward.
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I love how the supposedly anytime-bullying crowd goes all bully over anything their communist masters tell them to.
Hypocrisy like that should come with an award.
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Yet to see one person at Oshkosh wearing a mask. Hoping this means a flood of estate sale aircraft come on the market in a few months at must-sell prices. Hey, a fellow can dream.
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Yet to see one person at Oshkosh wearing a mask. Hoping this means a flood of estate sale aircraft come on the market in a few months at must-sell prices. Hey, a fellow can dream.
Libertarians are heartless.
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Yet to see one person at Oshkosh wearing a mask. Hoping this means a flood of estate sale aircraft come on the market in a few months at must-sell prices. Hey, a fellow can dream.
I've seen a maybe 20 total if that. I don't count the ATC people at the forums who said they are required to. No one in Scholler that I have seen.
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The Delta variant is so bad they had to crank up the Twitter BOTs
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The Delta variant is so bad they had to crank up the Twitter BOTs
If those are real, that’s disturbing. I have no reason to doubt they are, I heard an ex-CIA guy talk about how foreign powers (China and I suppose others) plant propaganda postings all over social media for the purpose of causing instability and division among Americans, not limited to the left, they post from both sides. That’s what he said anyway. I’ve heard other reports of Chinese bot propaganda postings.
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If those are real, that’s disturbing. I have no reason to doubt they are, I heard an ex-CIA guy talk about how foreign powers (China and I suppose others) plant propaganda postings all over social media for the purpose of causing instability and devision among Americans, not limited to the left, they post from both sides. That’s what he said anyway. I’ve heard other reports of Chinese bot propaganda postings.
Goebbels used similar tactics of his time period. The CCP uses this exact same tactic against their people (this is where the idea originates).
Go watch cable news or MSM and watch how individual networks all use the same talking points depending on the message of the day.
And FWIW, I spoke with a doctor friend last weekend. He's telling me that ICU's and hospital beds are indeed filling up, but not what most believe. He's seeing more and more heart problems and blood clotting issues putting people in the hospital, with people that don't have a history of these problems. Care to guess what they have in common?
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The moron society (democrats) still believe that blind obedience is freedom, and freedom is racist.
What they are, is stupid.
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And FWIW, I spoke with a doctor friend last weekend. He's telling me that ICU's and hospital beds are indeed filling up, but not what most believe. He's seeing more and more heart problems and blood clotting issues putting people in the hospital, with people that don't have a history of these problems. Care to guess what they have in common?
But Jen said it's only the unbranded, er, unvaccinated people who are dying...
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But Jen said it's only the unbranded, er, unvaccinated people who are dying...
And we all know Jen wouldn't spread misinformation...........
The so called vaccines are constantly being proved ineffective, and also being proved to cause side effects including death. The Xiden Administration being run by the democrat communist are now doubling down to force even more people to get shots. Does this make any sense to anyone with a normal thought process?
The democrat communist believe in misinformation, coercion and threats to achieve a goal. Little do they realize it's their actions that is creating so much doubt.
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Goebbels used similar tactics of his time period. The CCP uses this exact same tactic against their people (this is where the idea originates).
Go watch cable news or MSM and watch how individual networks all use the same talking points depending on the message of the day.
And FWIW, I spoke with a doctor friend last weekend. He's telling me that ICU's and hospital beds are indeed filling up, but not what most believe. He's seeing more and more heart problems and blood clotting issues putting people in the hospital, with people that don't have a history of these problems. Care to guess what they have in common?
I'll take Vaccinated for $1,000 Alex.
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The Democrats are SO fucked up.
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The Democrats are SO fucked up.
Indeed.
They are getting so desperate, and in their desperation they are willing to burn down everything around them. Total fucking morons.
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/steve-bannon-interviews-dr-robert-malone/
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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1420443320896081926/pu/vid/282x270/_u_3J2GAmsnQFd6_.mp4?tag=12
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This is Xiden today
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_3517.jpg)
You peasants better get your face diapers on as you have been ordered!
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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1420443320896081926/pu/vid/282x270/_u_3J2GAmsnQFd6_.mp4?tag=12
That guy summed it all up in a nutshell.
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That guy summed it all up in a nutshell.
Prophetic. That was from months ago.
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Look for this to be taken down shortly.
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/the-power-of-natural-covid-immunity/
Johns Hopkins Dr. Marty Makary
EXCERPT FROM WALL STREET JOURNAL
The news about the U.S. Covid pandemic is even better than you’ve heard. Some 80% to 85% of American adults are immune to the virus: More than 64% have received at least one vaccine dose and, of those who haven’t, roughly half have natural immunity from prior infection. There’s ample scientific evidence that natural immunity is effective and durable, and public-health leaders should pay it heed.
Only around 10% of Americans have had confirmed positive Covid tests, but four to six times as many have likely had the infection. A February study in Nature used antibody screenings in late summer 2020 to estimate there had been seven times as many actual cases as confirmed cases. A similar study, by the University of Albany and New York State Department of Health, revealed that by the end of March 2020—the first month of New York’s pandemic—23% of the city’s population had antibodies. That share necessarily increased as the pandemic spread.
Natural immunity is durable. Researchers from Washington University in St. Louis reported last month that 11 months after a mild infection immune cells were still capable of producing protective antibodies. The authors concluded that prior Covid infection induces a “robust” and “long-lived humoral immune response,” leading some scientists to suggest that natural immunity is probably lifelong. Because infection began months earlier than vaccination, we have more follow-up data on the duration of natural immunity than on vaccinated immunity.
Skeptics of natural immunity point to Manaus, capital of the Brazilian state of Amazonas, where reports in January suggested a wave of re-infections despite herd immunity. But the initial estimate of those infected was incorrect because it was based on antibody testing among those who donated convalescent plasma—an unrepresentative subgroup of the population. A follow-up study debunked the re-infection hypothesis and found only three confirmed re-infections in the entire state, whose population exceeds four million. Other studies have confirmed that re-infections are rare and usually asymptomatic or mild.
Should the previously infected be vaccinated? My clinical advice to healthy patients with natural immunity is that one shot is sufficient, and maybe not even necessary, although it could increase the long-term durability of immunity. A University of Pennsylvania study of people previously infected with Covid found that a single vaccine dose triggered a strong immune response, with no increase in that response after a second dose. A separate study from New York’s Mount Sinai School of Medicine concluded that “the antibody response to the first vaccine dose in individuals with pre-existing immunity is equal to or even exceeds the titers found in naïve”—never-infected—“individuals after the second dose.”
Dr. Fauci said last Aug. 13 that when you have fewer than 10 cases per 100,000, “you should be able to open up safely and clearly.” The U.S. reached that point in mid-May. It’s time to stop the fear mongering and level with the public about the incredible capabilities of both modern medical research and the human body’s immune system.
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In other words….
Dr. Quackenheimer is a fraud.
The CDC is full of shit, and the senile imposter, pedo Joe is a public health menace.
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Look for this to be taken down shortly.
I’m glad there is at least one young person in SanDiego who is sane.
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Was at the gym where they have the local and National MSM MEDIA PROPAGANDA ON. Every station had Covid surge and are pushing more Mask Mandates and Lockdowns. All at the same exact time. We are now the Weimar Republic. Oil your implements people.
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https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1420716466094096387
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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1420552057812144134/pu/vid/464x848/Iw21mYL4nVrdFXi2.mp4?tag=12
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https://twitter.com/RepDanCrenshaw/status/1420473988795539458
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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-this-isnt-about-the-science-heres-proof
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Had to sign that I read the Fact sheet this morning. I read it, attached is the first page with my highlighting.
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Had to sign that I read the Fact sheet this morning. I read it, attached is the first page with my highlighting.
Ha! Yep. So you’re going for it. Good luck!
I doubt I’ll ever get the second shot. Why the hell should I if I have to wear the mask anyway?
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Ha! Yep. So you’re going for it. Good luck!
I doubt I’ll ever get the second shot. Why the hell should I if I have to wear the mask anyway?
Because “the science”.
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My sister just called from NC. They interrupted her soap opera to have a press conference where they were told that:
Everyone that is unvaccinated is directly responsible for the huge surge in covid cases. You will end up on a ventilator if you are unvaccinated.
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My sister just called from NC. They interrupted her soap opera to have a press conference where they were told that:
Everyone that is unvaccinated is directly responsible for the huge surge in covid cases. You will end up on a ventilator if you are unvaccinated.
Total bullshit lie.
Why should anyone trust a government who constantly obfuscates data, makes up policy as they go and relies on quack doctors who have never practiced medicine, and even worse, allows career bureaucrats to make medical decisions.
The dims are losing the narrative and control, they are in their death throws and desperate. Fuck 'em.
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My sister just called from NC. They interrupted her soap opera to . . .
People still watch soap operas?
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People still watch soap operas?
My sister struggles to get into the 21st century.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/29/report-cdc-expected-to-announce-tomorrow-that-covid-vaccines-dont-work-on-delta-variant-hence-white-house-credits-trump-with-vaccine-today/
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I don’t know what to believe. Is the delta variant more deadly or not?
https://nypost.com/2021/07/08/dont-buy-the-hysteria-the-delta-variant-is-actually-less-dangerous/
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So I wonder if these "variants" are natural evolutions of the original virus or planned releases of close cousins that were all engineered together as a package?
Fuck nuclear weapons, it won't be "the bomb" that results in global domination...
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My question is, how do they know if someone has the "Delta" variant?
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I wonder if there even is an actual delta variant...
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(https://i.imgur.com/IsQgfK9.jpg)
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So I wonder if these "variants" are natural evolutions of the original virus or planned releases of close cousins that were all engineered together as a package?
Fuck nuclear weapons, it won't be "the bomb" that results in global domination...
They are the natural evolution of the virus but I speculate that vaccines and social distancing create conditions to promote this evolution.
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They are the natural evolution of the virus but I speculate that vaccines and social distancing create conditions to promote this evolution.
Yep, once again the frauds in the government, big tech and MSM want everyone to panic over what is essentially the flu, and has a survival rate of 99.8% or greater.
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How much more buffoonery can these people show?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/insanity-goofy-surgeon-general-vivek-murthy-says-vaccinated-people-need-wear-masks-protect-unvaccinated-people/
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How much more buffoonery can these people show?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/insanity-goofy-surgeon-general-vivek-murthy-says-vaccinated-people-need-wear-masks-protect-unvaccinated-people/
I'm not a hard core anti-masker. But this is the worst reason I have heard to wear masks.
This week Vivek Murthy told MSNBC that vaccinated people need to wear masks to protect unvaccinated people.
If someone doesn't believe, or care to wear masks, why should I inconvenience myself to protect them? That's Darwin's job.
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I'm not a hard core anti-masker. But this is the worst reason I have heard to wear masks.If someone doesn't believe, or care to wear masks, why should I inconvenience myself to protect them? That's Darwin's job.
Likewise if someone doesn’t believe in or care to get vaccinated, why should I inconvenience myself to protect them? And I say that as someone who was going to remain unvaccinated. I still might remain only half vaccinated (the horror!!) I don’t feel entitled to expect everyone else to go to extreme measures to protect me from a virus with a 99% survival rate, especially since the effectiveness of masks is unproven.
What we should have done from the very beginning was isolate the very old and the very sick, wear masks around them if it makes you feel better, and get them and their caretakers vaccinated first. Leave all the schools open, keep all the businesses open, no mask mandates anywhere except in nursing homes and hospitals or your loved one’s sick room if you want.
Had we done that we would have probably had the same death rate but we’d have kept a healthy economy.
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When did the Babylon Bee become one of the only media outlets telling the truth???
If you parse the article, you often find their 'satire' to perfectly mimic the moron democrats and their ignorant bullshit.
To Defeat Delta Variant, Fauci Recommends Doing All The Things That Didn't Work The First Time
U.S.—To defeat the massive, scary, definitely world-ending wave of COVID being driven by the delta variant of the deadly, frightening disease you should remain afraid of for the rest of your life, experts are recommending we try all the things that didn't work the first time.
https://babylonbee.com/news/to-defeat-delta-variant-experts-recommend-doing-all-the-things-that-didnt-work-the-first-time
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Paging POS...
Health Experts Now Recommend Maximizing Social Distance By Attending A Biden Rally
Face Masks Found To Be Effective At Making You Look Like A Giant Dummy Who Doesn’t Know How Vaccines Work
Man Disguises Self As Illegal Immigrant So Democrats Won't Care That He's Unvaccinated
Dr. Fauci Gets In Heated Debate With Seventeen Previous Versions Of Himself
Democrats Propose Requiring Vaccine Passports For Voting
Man Can’t Wait To Get Vaccine So He Can Go Back To Isolating While Wearing A Mask But Now Doing So While Vaccinated
Following The Science: Texas Issues Travel Ban On Democrats To Prevent Dangerous COVID Outbreak
I Love The Bee Headlines... They are so often true.
I'm sure some moron liberal will be along to 'fact check' the satire.
It makes them look so smug and evolved.
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Likewise if someone doesn’t believe in or care to get vaccinated, why should I inconvenience myself to protect them?
Yes. Actually, that was what I meant to type, but . . . perhaps I can blame spell check for my mind wandering (or is that wondering)?
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Likewise if someone doesn’t believe in or care to get vaccinated, why should I inconvenience myself to protect them? And I say that as someone who was going to remain unvaccinated. I still might remain only half vaccinated (the horror!!) I don’t feel entitled to expect everyone else to go to extreme measures to protect me from a virus with a 99% survival rate, especially since the effectiveness of masks is unproven.
What we should have done from the very beginning was isolate the very old and the very sick, wear masks around them if it makes you feel better, and get them and their caretakers vaccinated first. Leave all the schools open, keep all the businesses open, no mask mandates anywhere except in nursing homes and hospitals or your loved one’s sick room if you want.
Had we done that we would have probably had the same death rate but we’d have kept a healthy economy.
Let's face a few realities here.
The CCP, in conjunction with Fauci, engineered the Covid virus, and the virus was used as a biological weapon.
The government has continually lied about the virus, used extremely flawed data to engineer desired results.
The deaths from Covid have been enormously inflated by manipulating data. In reality Covid is on par with influenza on lethality.
Social distancing, masking, lockdowns have all been proven to have failed, except for destroying the economy, and inflecting pain on the public.
Fast forward to today. The DCP is in complete panic mode now. They are throwing anything and everything against the wall praying that something will stick. They have lost the narrative, and their grand plan to fundamentally transform America into a socialist utopia is blowing up in their face.
What's next? Will the DCP attempt to declare martial law in order to "combat the new variant"? Folks, the desperation is at levels we haven't seen in decades. We are now watching the panic play out hour by hour, just look back over the past week.
We haven't hit bottom yet.
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Yes. Actually, that was what I meant to type, but . . . perhaps I can blame spell check for my mind wandering (or is that wondering)?
Yep.
That whole 99.8% survival rate (as faked by the lying fraudsters) is SOOOO dangerous.
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https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1421084453594615813
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What's next? Will the DCP attempt to declare martial law in order to "combat the new variant"? Folks, the desperation is at levels we haven't seen in decades. We are now watching the panic play out hour by hour, just look back over the past week.
We haven't hit bottom yet.
The playbook they use says that if they are failing on one front, start attacking on another. Their messaging is so messed up on COVID that they now have to pivot over to finding racists around every corner. Yes folks, white supremacy is the most horrible thing this nation has faced since it was discovered by the Indians 50,000 years ago. This distraction will allow the DCCP to refine their COVID message to something coherent for when the white supremacy message fails.
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Anchor Chris Cuomo said, “We showed the numbers tonight. 37% of the unvaccinated are white Republicans. It doesn’t have to be like that.”
Which means that 63% of the unvaccinated are either non-white or non-republican. But sure, blame it on white Republicans. Math is hard!
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https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1421084453594615813
The strange thing about democrats is their ability to completely ignore their own history.
Currently the democrat whores are pushing bribes for taking a free vaccine that is not approved for humans.
Doesn't that remind anyone of the democrats regime forcing black soldiers to take shots that ended up killing many of them?
OR
Maybe they fail to remember the democrat regime that 'gave' free blankets laced with disease to American Indians...
I don't know, but, this entire bullying Americans to accept a 'vaccine' that is untested and unproven (except as to it's ability to kill and sicken thousands and thousands of the people who took it) looks an awful like hitler's agenda for purging Germany of Jews.
If the 'vaccine' harms or kills you the democrat regime that bullied you into taking it is not responsible. Neither are the drug companies, or the fucktard media using every trick in the book to force you into complying.
Amazingly, neither are the schools, universities of higher communism, or the companies strong arming you, at the threat of firing) if you don't obey.
So
the democrat (communist) party (the party of slavery, voter suppression thru lynching, killing, burning churches and the kkk) is clearly taking enormous bribes for this scam and the sheep, pussy, liberal, assholes are in lock step with their sick agenda.
OR
you democrats are just too brainwashed to be capable of intelligent thought.
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The playbook they use says that if they are failing on one front, start attacking on another. Their messaging is so messed up on COVID that they now have to pivot over to finding racists around every corner. Yes folks, white supremacy is the most horrible thing this nation has faced since it was discovered by the Indians 50,000 years ago. This distraction will allow the DCCP to refine their COVID message to something coherent for when the white supremacy message fails.
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1420860515111288833
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Yes. Actually, that was what I meant to type, but . . . perhaps I can blame spell check for my mind wandering (or is that wondering)?
I suspected that was what you meant.
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https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1421111641270362113
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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21030483-outbreak-of-sars-cov-2-infections-including-covid-19-vaccine-breakthrough-infections-associated-with-large-public-gatherings-massachusetts-july-30-2021
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This will be banned shortly
https://twitter.com/i/status/1420942302399262727
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This will be banned shortly
https://twitter.com/i/status/1420942302399262727
yup - doesn't seem to be available...
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yup - doesn't seem to be available...
Worked for me.
Brought a tear to my eye.
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This will be banned shortly
https://twitter.com/i/status/1420942302399262727
He’s gonna get a knock on the door from the Secret Service.
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Worked for me.
Brought a tear to my eye.
Me too!
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This will be banned shortly
https://twitter.com/i/status/1420942302399262727
He’s been suspended before
https://twitter.com/Saint_BTC/status/1348384325578883072
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hmmmm. had to reload it several times, but, yup. it worked for me.
I don't think it's a good idea to tell people you are going to kill them.
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hmmmm. had to reload it several times, but, yup. it worked for me.
I don't think it's a good idea to tell people you are going to kill them.
I’m old enough to remember when we actually had freedom of speech in this country.
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Population estimate of the U.S. for 2019 was 328,239,523 (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US?fbclid=IwAR2QRyABF1BRkN1b_LZZb0d61B1OzHuMZv2AOCbXWqiDvu7l5fZ7GdmBvCI)). Of that 22.3% are under the age of 18 or 73,197,413.
Of that 337 have died either with or from COVID or 0.0046% (https://www.statista.com/.../reported-deaths-from-covid.../ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/?fbclid=IwAR1F3LJ77W8_UldDgI_t1Pkjq1enWOAuHdnHh31Ffj022j50CziF3oHOemg))
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Scientists Warn Of New Supersized Double Mega
Limited Edition Teenage Mutant Ninja Snyder Cut
COVID Variant With Frickin' Laser Cannons
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-9154-1.jpg)
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CDC Still Baffled People Are Paying Attention To Them
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-9153-1.jpg)
Gotta Love the Babylon Bee.
More truth than satire, even if it was unintentional.
Liberals are so stupid they actually live out the jokes the Bee is telling.
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I’m old enough to remember when we actually had freedom of speech in this country.
threatening to kill someone isn't exactly the reason we have free speech.
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threatening to kill someone isn't exactly the reason we have free speech.
Was his threat specific???
If I say “If someone kicks my door down and threatens me and my family, I will kill them”.
How is this a violation of free speech?
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Population estimate of the U.S. for 2019 was 328,239,523 (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US?fbclid=IwAR2QRyABF1BRkN1b_LZZb0d61B1OzHuMZv2AOCbXWqiDvu7l5fZ7GdmBvCI)). Of that 22.3% are under the age of 18 or 73,197,413.
Of that 337 have died either with or from COVID or 0.0046% (https://www.statista.com/.../reported-deaths-from-covid.../ (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/?fbclid=IwAR1F3LJ77W8_UldDgI_t1Pkjq1enWOAuHdnHh31Ffj022j50CziF3oHOemg))
Lockdown!!!!!!!
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threatening to kill someone isn't exactly the reason we have free speech.
Yeah there is always the argument that “I’m going to kill you” is a metaphor. I’ve said that to my husband at least once a week for 36 years. But that guy didn’t look like he meant it symbolically. He references military training and seemed quite literal. The problem is that it wasn’t directed at anyone in particular so it can’t be considered a threat.
But:
A) The Secret Service will interpret it to mean a threat to Biden, because Biden suggested door to door vaccination visits.
B) He is almost certainly already on a domestic terrorist watch list just because of his conservative viewpoints.
So Luci is right, we should be able to say this figuratively, but you are right that it will be interpreted literally. Especially in the context of the current purging, canceling and imprisoning political opponents of the illegitimate cabal in power.
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Can you now see how the democrat communist are affecting our free speech? It wasn’t long ago that the fellows twitter wouldn’t have garnered attention because people understand the context.
Now everyone has to carefully consider each and every word.
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Lockdown!!!!!!!
LOOK! We have TWO new cases!!!
QUICK.
Shred the constitution...
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Can you now see how the democrat communist are affecting our free speech? It wasn’t long ago that the fellows twitter wouldn’t have garnered attention because people understand the context.
Now everyone has to carefully consider each and every word.
I don’t know much about Jack Dorsey but Tarl Warwick (who is much more plugged into social media than I am) says he used to be quite libertarian and pro free speech. But now he’s fully on board with the progressive left’s censorship. No doubt all he really cares about is getting himself richer and he promotes whatever ideology furthers that, at the time.
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Can you now see how the democrat communist are affecting our free speech? It wasn’t long ago that the fellows twitter wouldn’t have garnered attention because people understand the context.
Now everyone has to carefully consider each and every word.
Yep. I'm actually fearful of retribution for what I say. This is not America. Also, seeing more and more masks again worn by media propaganda, brainwashed idiots. Fucking losers.
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Yep. I'm actually fearful of retribution for what I say. This is not America. Also, seeing more and more masks again worn by media propaganda, brainwashed idiots. Fucking losers.
Yep, jobs are now at stake based on what you say and your beliefs. I heard that financial institutions are now looking into your social media postings and denying loans or accounts based on your viewpoints. I don’t know if that’s true but I wouldn’t be surprised.
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Yep, jobs are now at stake based on what you say and your beliefs. I heard that financial institutions are now looking into your social media postings and denying loans or accounts based on your viewpoints. I don’t know if that’s true but I wouldn’t be surprised.
sssshhhh... don't say that part out loud
(homage to dilbert 1 August)
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In 2013 I started to wonder when the communists (democrats) would rip a page out of hitler' s playbook and just declare their candidates the winner regardless of how the country voted.
It looked like that pathetic obama had packed the courts and DOJ with trash and other kinds of liberal garbage and gwb had appointed worthless, coward boy John Robert's to the USSC, clearing the way for the takeover.
Now that it has happened, I'm not surprised though outraged to see how proud you fucking democrats are of your communist masters.
It won't take long and government approved denial of lifesaving health care will be withheld based on voter registration. Forced abortions will begin to be carried out against non commie pregnant women and education will be denied to the children of non leftists.
The entire cowardly, whiney liberal population have surrendered entirely to your communist masters and are pathetically proud of your uselessness, worthlessness and over all pussification.
The fear of independence has made most of the entitlement generations helpless, mindless, brainless and dickless.
You democrats make me want to puke every time I hear one of you babble about global warming, white supremacy, male patriarchy while ignoring the sheer hypocrisy of your every thought, word and deed.
Liberalism is a combination mental illness and irrational need for attention.
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Yep, jobs are now at stake based on what you say and your beliefs. I heard that financial institutions are now looking into your social media postings and denying loans or accounts based on your viewpoints. I don’t know if that’s true but I wouldn’t be surprised.
Their actuaries are figuring that after we go full NK, certain borrowers are going to end up in a mass grave and default.
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Their actuaries are figuring that after we go full NK, certain borrowers are going to end up in a mass grave and default.
Wow. Hadn’t thought of it that way. I don’t know whether you are joking or there are actually analysts who figure that way. I’m not sure your average person believes we could go full NK even though it’s starting to happen right before our eyes. For example, imprisonment in solitary confinement without due process or even any charges filed, for merely standing around at, some not even in, the Capitol on January 6. That’s political persecution pure and simple.
Meanwhile the communist, Marxist and anarchist insurrectionists all over the country (the TRUE insurrectionists) enjoy full due process with many (up to 80%) fully exonerated and all charges dropped, charges of firebombing, assault, vandalism, attacking law enforcement, etc. And the FBI is combing through ALL our cell phone location data trying to find every last one of us that might have been at the Capitol Jan 6, and have zero interest in investigating BLM/Antifa terrorists.
This is rule by one party and it’s ideology. Just like all the others (USSR, NK, Cuba, Red China) No difference whatsoever, except they haven’t yet disarmed us and hopefully haven’t yet irreparably damaged the election system. It’s our only chance to reverse this, if it can even be done. With all alphabets on board, all mainstream big tech and media and all academia brainwashing the young, and all technology weaponized against the idea of freedom and privacy, the chances aren’t good.
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Based on the currently available data, I am surprised that the Mayor of D.C. has not imposed a Kevlar vest mandate on all residents and visitors.
To the end of July there have been an average of 16 homicides per month. For the month of July (thru the 27th) there have been 5 COVID deaths. Wear your vest, save a life.
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Based on the currently available data, I am surprised that the Mayor of D.C. has not imposed a Kevlar vest mandate on all residents and visitors.
To the end of July there have been an average of 16 homicides per month. For the month of July (thru the 27th) there have been 5 COVID deaths. Wear your vest, save a life.
Any stats on the race of the vics or the perps?
btw, how ya feelin?
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Based on the currently available data, I am surprised that the Mayor of D.C. has not imposed a Kevlar vest mandate on all residents and visitors.
To the end of July there have been an average of 16 homicides per month. For the month of July (thru the 27th) there have been 5 COVID deaths. Wear your vest, save a life.
What crime?
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Any stats on the race of the vics or the perps?
btw, how ya feelin?
Feeling just fine. Went into the belly of the beast and survived. Most would think that unlikely.
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https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1421167619013480450
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We now have much of the populace as complacent, compliant, submissive, unadventurous, scared SHEEP. I am seeing more and more masks again even people alone in cars. It is like their blankie from when they were a baby now. Fucking cowards.
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We've raised a nation of pussys.
Seriously.
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Follow the money
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/moderna-pfizer-hike-vaccine-prices-25
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My workplace maybe considered a "hot spot" now and will be mandating masks possibly. Effing Commies. >:(
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So much for the hokey masking.
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My workplace maybe considered a "hot spot" now and will be mandating masks possibly. Effing Commies. >:(
My husband is LIVID. He got the vaccine only because his company said they could take off the masks if they were vaccinated. Last week they reversed and said now everyone has to wear them even if you’re vaccinated. When he saw the message he threw his cell phone across the room. Only one other time in our whole marriage have I seen him so mad he threw something.
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My husband is LIVID. He got the vaccine only because his company said they could take off the masks if they were vaccinated. Last week they reversed and said now everyone has to wear them even if you’re vaccinated. When he saw the message he threw his cell phone across the room. Only one other time in our whole marriage have I seen him so mad he threw something.
Over a year ago I said "pandora's box has been opened".
The scamdemic was a dream come true for the democrat communist and the globalist. They spent decades trying all sorts of climate hoaxes, and they all failed. But the virus brought the country down in under two weeks.
We now have another year of dealing with daily, even hourly changes and mandates, more "variants" to be sprung upon us, and 24/7 fear mongering.
The scamdemic is going to push this country to the brink. The democrat communist are in full blown panic mode right now, and when you have a group of radicals this panicked, there is no telling to what extremes they will go.
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Over a year ago I said "pandora's box has been opened".
The scamdemic was a dream come true for the democrat communist and the globalist. They spent decades trying all sorts of climate hoaxes, and they all failed. But the virus brought the country down in under two weeks.
We now have another year of dealing with daily, even hourly changes and mandates, more "variants" to be sprung upon us, and 24/7 fear mongering.
The scamdemic is going to push this country to the brink. The democrat communist are in full blown panic mode right now, and when you have a group of radicals this panicked, there is no telling to what extremes they will go.
When will the pussies in this country wake up? Even the French are protesting in the streets.
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Just remember.
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I was just looking in on the 10 o'clock news.
Hundreds and hundreds of protesters flooded the county hall demanding an end to the stupid mask and Chinese virus rules.
The eternally incompetent mayor of Orange County, jerry demings, ignorant racist val demings' husband is irrationally trying to convince the protesters that he has no intention of reintroducing shut down orders, all while drawing up shut down orders.
Typical fucking democrat, useless, dickless, idiot.
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I was just looking in on the 10 o'clock news.
Hundreds and hundreds of protesters flooded the county hall demanding an end to the stupid mask and Chinese virus rules.
The eternally incompetent mayor of Orange County, jerry demings, ignorant racist val demings' husband is irrationally trying to convince the protesters that he has no intention of reintroducing shut down orders, all while drawing up shut down orders.
Typical fucking democrat, useless, dickless, idiot.
I’m glad somebody in this country is protesting. Maybe it will catch on. We need civil disobedience. People need to just refuse to wear masks or get vaccinated (unless they actually want to). More states need to pass laws forbidding mandatory masks and vaccinations.
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For the last three weeks hundreds of thousands of French people are protesting the creation of mandatory vaccine health passes. The size of the demonstrations appears to be growing each week.
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For the last three weeks hundreds of thousands of French people are protesting the creation of mandatory vaccine health passes. The size of the demonstrations appears to be growing each week.
Why is it now, the French have grown a pair yet most in the U.S. just roll over and take it? We have absolutely lost our way as a free nation. As I've said before, we no longer talk about freedom and liberty as concepts to value. It's been bred out of the general populace.
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Why is it now, the French have grown a pair yet most in the U.S. just roll over and take it? We have absolutely lost our way as a free nation. As I've said before, we no longer talk about freedom and liberty as concepts to value. It's been bred out of the general populace.
Maybe it’s because we have states and France doesn’t. It’s easier for France to mandate draconian vaccine passport laws than for the U.S. as a whole because state by state they can outlaw them. Having said that, the CDC grabbed power by ordering the eviction moratorium. Way unconstitutional and way outside their authority. And is a total catastrophe.
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Maybe it’s because we have states and France doesn’t. It’s easier for France to mandate draconian vaccine passport laws than for the U.S. as a whole because state by state they can outlaw them. Having said that, the CDC grabbed power by ordering the eviction moratorium. Way unconstitutional and way outside their authority. And is a total catastrophe.
Heard a discussion about it yesterday, they said Kavanaugh had said he would allow it to be extended but they needed to understand it was unconstitutional. Why would he have done that back then?
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Heard a discussion about it yesterday, they said Kavanaugh had said he would allow it to be extended but they needed to understand it was unconstitutional. Why would he have done that back then?
Wait, Kavanaugh said he would allow something he admits is unconstitutional? What’s his fucking job?
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Wait, Kavanaugh said he would allow something he admits is unconstitutional? What’s his fucking job?
Enable the Uniparty.
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Enable the Uniparty.
Funny, I don’t see that in the oath he took:
“I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
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Or is it the Center for Delusion and Confusion?
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Funny, I don’t see that in the oath he took:
“I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
Oaths are just for public show anymore. That pesky old outdated constitution calls for it, so they do it, same as a kid playing make believe.
Kavanaugh is just showing his true colors and allegiance.
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Oaths are just for public show anymore. That pesky old outdated constitution calls for it, so they do it, same as a kid playing make believe.
Kavanaugh is just showing his true colors and allegiance.
Most of the Republicans and all of the Democrats with a possible rare exception in places like West Virginia are simply sell outs and traitors to the country and the constitution. I’m done with both parties.
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Dan Bongino Rule #1, or something like that. There are no Democrats that are Republicans, there are Republicans that are Democrats. May not be exact, but close.
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Dan Bongino Rule #1, or something like that. There are no Democrats that are Republicans, there are Republicans that are Democrats. May not be exact, but close.
Wilkow calls them the "republican wing of the democrat party".
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/29/politics/supreme-court-eviction-moratorium-cdc/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/29/politics/supreme-court-eviction-moratorium-cdc/index.html)
Kavanaugh concurrenceAs he often does, Kavanaugh wrote to explain why he voted to allow the moratorium to remain in place. On the one hand, he said he agreed with the District Court that the CDC exceeded its statutory authority by issuing a nationwide moratorium.But, he said, because the CDC has said it will end the moratorium in a few weeks he would allow it to remain in place. He said the extra weeks will "allow for additional and more orderly distribution of the congressionally appropriated rental assistance funds."Kavanaugh made clear however, that if the government were to extend the moratorium past July 31, it would need "specific congressional authorization."
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/29/politics/supreme-court-eviction-moratorium-cdc/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/29/politics/supreme-court-eviction-moratorium-cdc/index.html)
He's acting as a legislator, not a judge.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/29/politics/supreme-court-eviction-moratorium-cdc/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/29/politics/supreme-court-eviction-moratorium-cdc/index.html)
That’s right, they left it in place but it was going to expire soon anyway so they saw little point in rushing it, but the ruling blocks it from ever being done again. Hopefully.... maybe I was too harsh on Kavanaugh.
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Dan Bongino Rule #1, or something like that. There are no Democrats that are Republicans, there are Republicans that are Democrats. May not be exact, but close.
Maybe Vernon Jones was. But he switched and fixed it.
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Why is it now, the French have grown a pair yet most in the U.S. just roll over and take it? We have absolutely lost our way as a free nation. As I've said before, we no longer talk about freedom and liberty as concepts to value. It's been bred out of the general populace.
Kids are taught in school that "rights" emanate from the Government.
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Kids are taught indoctrinated in school that "rights" emanate from the Government.
FTFY
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FTFY
Not just kids.
I remember that half wit, aunt peggy declaring that Freedom of Speech means whatever speech the government and courts allow you to have.
Whack job liberals really have not a clue about much of anything.
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Kids are taught in school that "rights" emanate from the Government.
As a comparison, the Russian constitution has many of the same rights and freedoms as we do, such as freedom of religion, right to own private property, etc. (At least since 1993 and maybe poorly implemented but nevertheless they are put to paper.)
Here is the critical difference: The rights in Russia derive from “universally recognized principles and norms of international law”. Our rights derive from God. Even if you don’t believe in God, the point is, they are cosmic, not granted by any earthly authority. And hence not subject to removal by any earthly entity.
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As a comparison, the Russian constitution has many of the same rights and freedoms as we do, such as freedom of religion, right to own private property, etc. (At least since 1993 and maybe poorly implemented but nevertheless they are put to paper.)
Here is the critical difference: The rights in Russia derive from “universally recognized principles and norms of international law”. Our rights derive from God. Even if you don’t believe in God, the point is, they are cosmic, not granted by any earthly authority. And hence not subject to removal by any earthly entity.
And that fact is key but sadly forgotten as the Leftists hate God or any spiritual, higher power.
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Wondering if the people in Florida are stupid. They seem to have very bad numbers overall. Are they not able to figure out how to protect themselves?
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Wondering if the people in Florida are stupid. They seem to have very bad numbers overall. Are they not able to figure out how to protect themselves?
I live in Fl.
It's bullshit.
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https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/florida
This doesn't seem like BS to me.
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https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/florida
This doesn't seem like BS to me.
Depends.
What's the significance of "cases"? Are these deaths attributed to covid only as the source of death, or is it died with covid? Comorbidities involved?
Figures lie and liars figure.
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Depends.
What's the significance of "cases"? Are these deaths attributed to covid only as the source of death, or is it died with covid? Comorbidities involved?
Figures lie and liars figure.
That site says my county has 20 new cases per day per 100,000 people. Our county doesn’t even have 100,000 people all total.
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That site says my county has 20 new cases per day per 100,000 people. Our county doesn’t even have 100,000 people all total.
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Depends.
What's the significance of "cases"? Are these deaths attributed to covid only as the source of death, or is it died with covid? Comorbidities involved?
Figures lie and liars figure.
And JHU is funded my Mini-Mike Bloomberg.
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That site says my county has 20 new cases per day per 100,000 people. Our county doesn’t even have 100,000 people all total.
you get worked up over from/to. I continue to be disappointed that people don't understand something simple math like 20 cases per 100,000 people.
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People are idiots. I see more wearing masks again in stores, cars, out walking alone. Just maddening as it is indicative of how weak minded so many are. The believe the propaganda, vote Democrat, buy EVs, like BLM and do everything counter to what we should be doing going forward.
Virtually zero mask wearers at OSH. There were a few, but statistically close to 0%.
But LOTs of masktards in Chicago, particularly among the black population.
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Goebbels used similar tactics of his time period. The CCP uses this exact same tactic against their people (this is where the idea originates).
Go watch cable news or MSM and watch how individual networks all use the same talking points depending on the message of the day.
And FWIW, I spoke with a doctor friend last weekend. He's telling me that ICU's and hospital beds are indeed filling up, but not what most believe. He's seeing more and more heart problems and blood clotting issues putting people in the hospital, with people that don't have a history of these problems. Care to guess what they have in common?
Rush was the MASTER of pointing out such common talking points.
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Total bullshit lie.
Why should anyone trust a government who constantly obfuscates data, makes up policy as they go and relies on quack doctors who have never practiced medicine, and even worse, allows career bureaucrats to make medical decisions.
The dims are losing the narrative and control, they are in their death throws and desperate. Fuck 'em.
That’s what I’m sensing too. Their next attempt at populace control is going to end very badly. Americans are done with it.
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And, after one week of mask freedom, work has again decreed that masks shall be worm at work. I'm so tired of this bullshit. 500 calendar days and they can take this job and shove it.
Can't wait!
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Lockdown!!!!!!!
That’s going to be the new “RACIST!!” Post from back in the POA days.
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Not just kids.
I remember that half wit, aunt peggy declaring that Freedom of Speech means whatever speech the government and courts allow you to have.
Whack job liberals really have not a clue about much of anything.
I do recall that. I also seem to recall that Steingar was of the same belief that government GRANTS rights.
When you don’t believe in God and God-given rights, then you default to lick the boot of whatever government rules over you.
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I do recall that. I also seem to recall that Steingar was of the same belief that government GRANTS rights.
When you don’t believe in God and God-given rights, then you default to lick the boot of whatever government rules over you.
Poor mike.
He is such a pussy.
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you get worked up over from/to. I continue to be disappointed that people don't understand something simple math like 20 cases per 100,000 people.
Oh I know what it means. I can do the math and figure out how many cases we actually have. My point is that the way the information is presented makes it appear there are more cases than there really are.
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Oh I know what it means. I can do the math and figure out how many cases we actually have. My point is that the way the information is presented makes it appear there are more cases than there really are.
It's all part of the fear porn.
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And, after one week of mask freedom, work has again decreed that masks shall be worm at work. I'm so tired of this bullshit. 500 calendar days and they can take this job and shove it.
Can't wait!
You’re counting down too? My husband has an app on his phone that is counting down to the second his retirement day (which I dread) (226 days, 7 hours, 52 minutes) and his work also just told them they have to go back to masks even if vaccinated.
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Oh I know what it means. I can do the math and figure out how many cases we actually have. My point is that the way the information is presented makes it appear there are more cases than there really are.
ah, ok
At one of Gov Baker's press conferences last year, he talked about a metric (new cases per 100,000) and a reporter asked what about communities with a population less than 100,000. <sigh>
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ah, ok
At one of Gov Baker's press conferences last year, he talked about a metric (new cases per 100,000) and a reporter asked what about communities with a population less than 100,000. <sigh>
Hahahaha! Yeah I see where you got that now.
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That’s what I’m sensing too. Their next attempt at populace control is going to end very badly. Americans are done with it.
People like us are done with it . Not the Urbanites, most Suburbanites, etc. They are voluntarily giving up their rights, freedoms and liberties because the MEDIA has them SCARED. SHEEPLE all. >:(
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That’s right, they left it in place but it was going to expire soon anyway so they saw little point in rushing it, but the ruling blocks it from ever being done again. Hopefully.... maybe I was too harsh on Kavanaugh.
Just saw the news that the CDC is going to extend the eviction moratorium again - despite the indication from Kavanaugh that the moratorium would lose in the court. And they are taking advantage of the fact that the litigation will take time, so are trying to extend it for two months. Kavanaugh was naive thinking that because the moratorium was ending there was no need to hear the case.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-rolling-out-modified-eviction-moratorium-biden-says (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-rolling-out-modified-eviction-moratorium-biden-says)
"Constitutionally, the bulk of the constitutional scholarship says that it's not likely to pass constitutional muster," the president said. "Look. I want to make it clear. I told you I would not tell the Justice Department or the medical experts or scientists what they should say or do, so I don't want to get ahead of the CDC."
Biden noted that "at a minimum, by the time it is litigated, we'll probably give some additional time while we're getting that $45 billion out to people who are, in fact, behind in the rent and don't have the money."
On Friday, the White House urged Congress to pass legislation extending an eviction moratorium through the end of the year, but Democratic leadership and members of the left-wing "Squad" threw the onus back on President Joe Biden.
The White House originally chose to let the old moratorium expire based on a June 29 decision handed down by the Supreme Court, but administration officials faced a litany of questions in recent days on why they waited until the eleventh hour to ask Congress for an extension.
Senior adviser to the president Gene Sperling told reporters at Monday's White House press briefing that some officials were concerned that challenging the initial ruling could eventually lead the court to limit the CDC's emergency powers, which the administration has taken advantage of in pursuit of the president's legislative agenda.
"It is a consideration that I think, you know, may have affected some of us," Sperling said at the time.
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Just saw the news that the CDC is going to extend the eviction moratorium again - despite the indication from Kavanaugh that the moratorium would lose in the court. And they are taking advantage of the fact that the litigation will take time, so are trying to extend it for two months. Kavanaugh was naive thinking that because the moratorium was ending there was no need to hear the case.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-rolling-out-modified-eviction-moratorium-biden-says (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-rolling-out-modified-eviction-moratorium-biden-says)
What a clusterfuck.
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Biden said it would be different than a moratorium 8)
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Just saw the news that the CDC is going to extend the eviction moratorium again - despite the indication from Kavanaugh that the moratorium would lose in the court. And they are taking advantage of the fact that the litigation will take time, so are trying to extend it for two months. Kavanaugh was naive thinking that because the moratorium was ending there was no need to hear the case.
what people don't understand is that when (if?) the eviction moratorium ends, it does NOT mean that everyone will get booted instantly. At least here in maskachusetts, it'll mean the eviction process can resume. It'll take a long long looooong time to work through all the pending cases.
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You’re counting down too? My husband has an app on his phone that is counting down to the second his retirement day (which I dread) (226 days, 7 hours, 52 minutes) and his work also just told them they have to go back to masks even if vaccinated.
Fuck yeah I'm counting down, and yes, I have an app on the phone. It only counts down the days, that's good enough. And I plan to enter the last year with max vacation hours banked, I'll be able to take 52 days off in my final year. I call it practicing for retirement. If they give me any shit about taking those days I've earned, I'll just turn in my two week and go home early.
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It also does not mean the "renter" won't owe the back rent still, although I'm reminded of getting blood from turnip. Still, someone who is months delinquent in paying rent should be easily evicted.
In NC, the maximum time is around 6 weeks, but eviction can be done as quickly as 3 weeks. There is a 10 day waiting period to start the legal eviction process, but that can be agreed to 0 days in the lease and it almost always is. After that, you file papers in the appropriate court and the sheriff delivers a summons for a hearing in 14 days. If they lose, the tenant can appeal within 10 days and have another 14 day notice for the next hearing. After final judgement, there is 7 days to vacate.
In these cases, if someone hasn't paid their rent for months and refuses to pay it, there isn't a defense. They can delay to the hearing, but they're going to lose that and then have 7 days to move out. On the 7th day, the sheriff will move them out if they're still there, watch a locksmith change the locks and arrange to move their property to storage.
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The CDC is a government agency under the executive branch, and cannot make laws or change laws. Period. They can make regulations through a process in administrative law.
Kavanaugh should have acted to strike down the moratorium for being unconstitutional. By giving the democrat communist a little bit of rope, they used it to create a law out of thin air. Mandates, Executive Orders and such coming from the Executive branch bypasses our legislative branch and are being used in ways that are clearly unconstitutional.
And our republican representatives??? Crickets...............
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what people don't understand is that when (if?) the eviction moratorium ends, it does NOT mean that everyone will get booted instantly. At least here in maskachusetts, it'll mean the eviction process can resume. It'll take a long long looooong time to work through all the pending cases.
This is a nightmare for your average renter, who is not a slumlord. It’s ordinary people renting a second home or two as an investment or even renting a room or rooms out of their own house. We’ve done both and had to evict both and it is a long process and not fun for anyone.
In the first case my husband had bought a house in a historic district that had been subdivided into two sections and was being rented as two apartments. He moved into one of them and allowed the other tenant to stay in the other temporarily as he began renovation on the first section. In the meantime we got married and I moved in. The time came for him to open up the rest of the house and start work on what was originally the kitchen (a tiny closet had been made into a kitchenette in the part we occupied). He gave her 30 days notice, it came and went, blah blah you know the rest. The eviction process took another 3 months.
We were not rich landlords. We had no assets, a mortgage for the house (he paid $68k for it) and some student and credit card debt. Mark had bought the house as a fixer upper, because the neighborhood had been declared a historic district and people were doing that and it seemed the restored homes would greatly increase in value. He was right as it turned out. Zillow right now estimates that house at over $800k, unfortunately we don’t still own it. On the other hand, I wouldn’t live in that neighborhood now for 80% of a million dollars.
The point is, we were barely middle class, and trying to climb our way up, and THAT is the kind of people the eviction moratorium is hurting, and actually people much worse off than we were, because we had jobs. How many “landlords” lost their jobs or business because of covid but still had a mortgage? And now the tenants stop paying rent and they’re mooching off the owner for a year and counting!
Biden and the other Democrat fuckers have no goddamn clue about the lives of the common person. They’re as bad as any aristocracy ever was.
Our second rental adventure was much worse. We moved out of a house but instead of selling it decided to rent it as an income stream. Again, middle class, not billionaire slum lords. Attempting to build wealth the best we can, working two jobs and raising kids. The first tenant paid rent for six months, then just quit. It was a couple, supposedly brother and sister. We gave notice, they ignored, we started proceedings, long story short it was another six months before the sheriff finally came to forcibly remove them from our property. They left it with thousands of dollars of damage AND proceeded to stalk and harass us, and steal our identity. They signed Mark up for the National Guard! Among many other things. We spent two years straightening that out. The police were little help. We did win in small claims (they didn’t show) but of course never could collect. I ended up a witness in another court case against them brought by their subsequent landlord / victim. They did even more damage to his house, poured concrete into the toilets and all the door locks.
It turned out they had used a stolen identity on our application and had set up fake references. They had it down to an art, it was a pattern to pay rent for six months, then live free for six months, then move on, rinse repeat. They were first class sociopaths.
That was it, we were out of the rental business, at least that kind. We did buy and rent vacation properties one of which was very successful but they were managed by an experienced company and vacation renters are a different sort of animal.
The eviction moratorium just makes the whole situation worse. It kicks the can down the road. It allows parasites to live for free off hard working ordinary people who are the backbone of our economy. The longer you have the moratorium the worse it will be when you end it which will make it ever harder to end. This is essentially destroying the property rights of owners.
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It also does not mean the "renter" won't owe the back rent still, although I'm reminded of getting blood from turnip. Still, someone who is months delinquent in paying rent should be easily evicted.
In NC, the maximum time is around 6 weeks, but eviction can be done as quickly as 3 weeks. There is a 10 day waiting period to start the legal eviction process, but that can be agreed to 0 days in the lease and it almost always is. After that, you file papers in the appropriate court and the sheriff delivers a summons for a hearing in 14 days. If they lose, the tenant can appeal within 10 days and have another 14 day notice for the next hearing. After final judgement, there is 7 days to vacate.
In these cases, if someone hasn't paid their rent for months and refuses to pay it, there isn't a defense. They can delay to the hearing, but they're going to lose that and then have 7 days to move out. On the 7th day, the sheriff will move them out if they're still there, watch a locksmith change the locks and arrange to move their property to storage.
6 weeks? Have they changed something in the last 20 years? It sure wasn’t 6 weeks for us.
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A big reason for the huge rise in rental prices (and thus the runup in home prices as well) is landlords using new renters to make up for the shortfalls due to the eviction moratorium. I don't blame them, most of them have notes to pay themselves on these rental properties.
Again, the honest hard working pay for the grifters and dirtbags. Socialism and wealth redistribution disguised...
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This is a nightmare for your average renter, who is not a slumlord. It’s ordinary people renting a second home or two as an investment or even renting a room or rooms out of their own house. We’ve done both and had to evict both and it is a long process and not fun for anyone.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through all that. You're right. Many people have rental properties and are trying to get extra income. They are hurt with no income coming in yet all the expenses still going out.
We had some rentals a while ago. Even with careful background checks on the renters we got some flakes. We think from time to time it would be good to get back into the rental market. Then realize that we don't want to manage the process and really can't trust anyone else to manage it for us to the quality we expect. Lots of people looking to rent houses. It's too bad that we won't tap into that market.
Things will get WAY worse soon. When the housing market implodes and crashes, everyone who bought at the maximum of their two-income qualifications will be underwater. And with another lockdown (count on it) one or both will be out of a job and unable to make mortgage. Tons of houses will suddenly be foreclosed on and available for purchase. By the Chinese. Who will happily rent to these suddenly not homeowners.
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Things will get WAY worse soon. When the housing market implodes and crashes, everyone who bought at the maximum of their two-income qualifications will be underwater. And with another lockdown (count on it) one or both will be out of a job and unable to make mortgage. Tons of houses will suddenly be foreclosed on and available for purchase. By the Chinese. Who will happily rent to these suddenly not homeowners.
Homes are being bought up by corporations now. The trend they are trying to set is a renter society, not owners.
Interesting read https://off-guardian.org/2021/07/31/whats-really-behind-the-war-on-home-ownership/
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Homes are being bought up by corporations now. The trend they are trying to set is a renter society, not owners.
Interesting read https://off-guardian.org/2021/07/31/whats-really-behind-the-war-on-home-ownership/
I've heard of this, and it's quite evil in my opinion.
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We never considered renting instead of selling for more than about three minutes. Too many horror stories, and a huge asset made vulnerable to damage.
However, I have a cousin who worked as a a technician for a few years and began buying houses to rent, then made being a landlord his full time job. He eventually acquired more than 30 homes and rents them almost exclusively to Hispanics. He does most repair work himself on all his houses and goes in person every month to each home to collect the rent. I see him fairly regularly and he says he hasn’t had many problems through the years. He’s now 80, and has begun to sell … he’s sold about a dozen of his rentals at the high prices now common across the country. I’ll have to ask him if he’s selling to corporations or local families.
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I've heard of this, and it's quite evil in my opinion.
It's right in line with the communist.
The democrat communist hate and despise the middle class. By being in a position to make choices and enjoy freedoms these middle class are much harder to control.
The democrat communist would like to see no more private home ownership (except for the elitist). By turning the country into renters, more control is gained by the state. That nice neighborhood you live in? Well, the state can now start importing low income and no income families in under the guise of "equality".
Post something or say something not approved by the Ministry of Truth? Eviction. Want to move elsewhere? Don't think so, so conform or live under a bridge.
They now have control of information, control of healthcare and control of education. The next two institutions they need to get control of is financial and housing, and it's happening right now. Just look no further than the "infrastructure bill" coming down the pike at full speed. Agreed upon before even being written, and is projected to be 2500+pages long.
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It's right in line with the communist.
The democrat communist hate and despise the middle class. By being in a position to make choices and enjoy freedoms these middle class are much harder to control.
The democrat communist would like to see no more private home ownership (except for the elitist). By turning the country into renters, more control is gained by the state. That nice neighborhood you live in? Well, the state can now start importing low income and no income families in under the guise of "equality".
Post something or say something not approved by the Ministry of Truth? Eviction. Want to move elsewhere? Don't think so, so conform or live under a bridge.
They now have control of information, control of healthcare and control of education. The next two institutions they need to get control of is financial and housing, and it's happening right now. Just look no further than the "infrastructure bill" coming down the pike at full speed. Agreed upon before even being written, and is projected to be 2500+pages long.
As we all know, Corporate America is now totally aligned with the far left, Marxist radicals which now control government, media, education, entertainment, Tech, etc. It's not much else the don't control. Also property owners pay government rent in the form of often horrendous property and real estate TAXES.
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https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/quick-update-on-the-israeli-vaccine
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We never considered renting instead of selling for more than about three minutes. Too many horror stories, and a huge asset made vulnerable to damage.
However, I have a cousin who worked as a a technician for a few years and began buying houses to rent, then made being a landlord his full time job. He eventually acquired more than 30 homes and rents them almost exclusively to Hispanics. He does most repair work himself on all his houses and goes in person every month to each home to collect the rent. I see him fairly regularly and he says he hasn’t had many problems through the years. He’s now 80, and has begun to sell … he’s sold about a dozen of his rentals at the high prices now common across the country. I’ll have to ask him if he’s selling to corporations or local families.
That’s what we figured out. To rent successfully it needs to be a full time job. Doing a lot of repairs yourself helps and you need to be a good combination of fair and polite, and firm and ruthless. (Did I do those commas right?) You cannot let yourself feel guilty about “putting people on the street”. You’re not a charity. You’re not responsible for other people’s poor choices or misfortunes. We weren’t cut out for it seeing as we were both busy full time engineers and parents.
But the beach house was a fantastic deal for us. Highly sought after vacation spot, top notch management company that handled everything. All the scheduling, contracts, cleaning between rentals. No calls in the middle of the night when the A/C quit, they dealt with it, all we did was collect the money minus their commission. We did do some repairs and upkeep, like replace the water heaters, ourselves off season when we went down there. It was a good use of our airplane.
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The CDC is a government agency under the executive branch, and cannot make laws or change laws. Period. They can make regulations through a process in administrative law.
Funny, the airlines are invoking "Federal Law" to require masks on their aircraft.
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I'm so sorry that you had to go through all that. You're right. Many people have rental properties and are trying to get extra income. They are hurt with no income coming in yet all the expenses still going out.
We had some rentals a while ago. Even with careful background checks on the renters we got some flakes. We think from time to time it would be good to get back into the rental market. Then realize that we don't want to manage the process and really can't trust anyone else to manage it for us to the quality we expect. Lots of people looking to rent houses. It's too bad that we won't tap into that market.
Things will get WAY worse soon. When the housing market implodes and crashes, everyone who bought at the maximum of their two-income qualifications will be underwater. And with another lockdown (count on it) one or both will be out of a job and unable to make mortgage. Tons of houses will suddenly be foreclosed on and available for purchase. By the Chinese. Who will happily rent to these suddenly not homeowners.
Part of the plan to destroy the middle class.
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https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/quick-update-on-the-israeli-vaccine
Piss poor reasoning (not surprising I suppose since he is a former reporter for the New York Times.)
First he speculates that unvaccinated elderly are that way because they are too feeble to be vaccinated. He then adopts his speculation as fact. Now he has an excuse for disregarding the higher death rate in the unvaccinated. For good measure he then states “it is worth noting that rates of serious illness among the vaccinated are now as high as they were among the unvaccinated only TWO WEEKS AGO.” So now he compares illness rates in two different groups in two different time periods as if that makes any sense. Meanwhile the chart he posted shows an illness rate as of Aug. 2nd in the unvaccinated at ~4.5 times higher despite the fact that the vaccinated group is over 2 times larger.
Meanwhile, scroll down to the “Daily New Deaths in Israel” graph in the next link and have a look at the trend line. The recent uptick is barely discernible:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/)
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Piss poor reasoning (not surprising I suppose since he is a former reporter for the New York Times.)
First he speculates that unvaccinated elderly are that way because they are too feeble to be vaccinated. He then adopts his speculation as fact. Now he has an excuse for disregarding the higher death rate in the unvaccinated. For good measure he then states “it is worth noting that rates of serious illness among the vaccinated are now as high as they were among the unvaccinated only TWO WEEKS AGO.” So now he compares illness rates in two different groups in two different time periods as if that makes any sense. Meanwhile the chart he posted shows an illness rate as of Aug. 2nd in the unvaccinated at ~4.5 times higher despite the fact that the vaccinated group is over 2 times larger.
Meanwhile, scroll down to the “Daily New Deaths in Israel” graph in the next link and have a look at the trend line. The recent uptick is barely discernible:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/)
Yep, the size of the uptick all depends on the scale you use. There was a whole YouTube about this I think we discussed on this forum a couple of years ago. Maybe I can find it, but anyway it talked about how you can propagandize the truth just by tweaking the x and y axis of your graph. They do this ALL the time with climate change. Like showing a graph of global warming over the past 100 years. But if you show it over the past 10,000 years, it looks totally different, the recent uptick is insignificant.
Also,
On July 4th, fewer than 1 older vaccinated person in 100,000 became seriously ill. Today the rate is 10 in 100,000.
Either way, that’s still less than the rate of suicide among police officers on the general population. And anyway how many of those cases are really due only to covid and not underlying conditions like, oh say, you’re a smoker and have emphysema, or you’re a stage 4 cancer patient already in hospice.
I’ve no clue whether we can trust Israel’s numbers but if it’s like the U.S. I take them all with big barrels of salt.
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Funny, the airlines are invoking "Federal Law" to require masks on their aircraft.
It's not federal law, it's only a recommendation.
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It's not federal law, it's only a recommendation.
It pisses me off when the sign on my doctor’s office says “CDC requires you to wear a mask”. No it doesn’t! It can’t! It has no constitutional authority to make me put on a face diaper!
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It pisses me off when the sign on my doctor’s office says “CDC requires you to wear a mask”. No it doesn’t! It can’t! It has no constitutional authority to make me put on a face diaper!
It's all part of the hoax, trying to get you to believe an agency like the CDC carries the force of law. This way they can bypass congress and issue dictates as they see fit.
The recent extension of the eviction moratorium could be tossed out immediately, but as usual, the uniparty doesn't have a problem with it.
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It pisses me off when the sign on my doctor’s office says “CDC requires you to wear a mask”. No it doesn’t! It can’t! It has no constitutional authority to make me put on a face diaper!
The Texas Medical Association said no more masks a few months ago.
Then they said the CDC recommends masks around 2ish weeks ago.
It is not required as law, but many doctors are covid crazy. We had a doctor chase our nurse down in the hall and tell her she had to wear a mask. I told her (any anyone else in our office) to tell him to talk to me and I will tell him to STFU.
I know how stupid many doctors are and do not put up with them when they are wrong. Fortunately my wife is right 100% of the time.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-us-developing-plan-require-foreign-visitors-be-vaccinated-official-2021-08-04/
Notice no mention of having the illegals invading our country to be vaccinated. Why aren't they jabbing needles into them as they cross over?
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OTOH, Phil Valentine, the radio show host from Nashville, has been placed on a ventilator.
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The Texas Medical Association said no more masks a few months ago.
Then they said the CDC recommends masks around 2ish weeks ago.
It is not required as law, but many doctors are covid crazy. We had a doctor chase our nurse down in the hall and tell her she had to wear a mask. I told her (any anyone else in our office) to tell him to talk to me and I will tell him to STFU.
I know how stupid many doctors are and do not put up with them when they are wrong. Fortunately my wife is right 100% of the time.
You're a smart man. ;D
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“If you are coming after the rights of parents in Florida, I’m standing in your way – and not letting you get away with it. If you are trying to deny kids a proper in-person education, I’m standing in your way” … “If you are trying to restrict people and impose mandates; if you are trying to lock people down; I am standing in your way and standing for the rights of the people in Florida” … “Why don’t you do your job, why don’t you secure the border, and until you do that – I don’t want to hear a blip about COVID from you.”
-Gov DeSantis, FL
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https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1422917999602937863
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So now we have an unelected administrator of a US government health agency making laws and implementing them, with her bosses approval even after he admits it's unconstitutional.
And her new decree has nothing to do with public health, and never did. Her new edict is there to hurt land lords, which are made up of primarily middle class people with investment property.
And the republicans? Again, crickets as they sit on the sidelines and watch, drooling over their soon to be had pork coming from an infrastructure bill that has very little to do with infrastructure.
Kavanaugh had the opportunity to strike this down, but gave them a pass (it's ending soon). He, like so many others haven't figured out none of this is ending soon, and it's only going to get worse as the DCP gets more emboldened. And while Kavanaugh is appeasing the DCP they are getting ready to try to impeach him.
Be ready for even more edicts to come from the executive branch as they continue to usurp the constitution and get even bolder. The more they take, the harder it becomes to get it back.
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So now we have an unelected administrator of a US government health agency making laws and implementing them, with her bosses approval even after he admits it's unconstitutional.
And her new decree has nothing to do with public health, and never did. Her new edict is there to hurt land lords, which are made up of primarily middle class people with investment property.
And the republicans? Again, crickets as they sit on the sidelines and watch, drooling over their soon to be had pork coming from an infrastructure bill that has very little to do with infrastructure.
Kavanaugh had the opportunity to strike this down, but gave them a pass (it's ending soon). He, like so many others haven't figured out none of this is ending soon, and it's only going to get worse as the DCP gets more emboldened. And while Kavanaugh is appeasing the DCP they are getting ready to try to impeach him.
Be ready for even more edicts to come from the executive branch as they continue to usurp the constitution and get even bolder. The more they take, the harder it becomes to get it back.
They are following the Obama model. Flood the zone with unlawful EOs; they can’t reverse them all.
Remember when Trump reversed DACA? It’s still in place.
The entire DCP and most Republicans should be brought up on RICO charges and imprisoned for not less than 25 25 years.
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Once again this guy has a good analysis:
https://rumble.com/vkpojp-biden-illegally-commands-the-cdc-to-ignore-scotus-and-extend-the-eviction-m.html
The same video is on YouTube but I prefer not to support YouTube. He puts more content and more sensitive content on rumble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl_zWqBEHMo
He points out that what the left does ends up hurting the poor and middle class, never the rich (yet it’s “sticking it to the rich” is what they paint it as). In this case the rich landowning companies like Blackrock won’t be hurt by this, but the working class family renting out a room in their house that they are paying a mortgage on is being devastated.
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https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1423293044862881792
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The jeopardy answer is…. D. Everything
Every word he speaks
Everything he does…
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Tired of being lied to by unelected Bureacrats and elected career politicians, the new ROYALTY. Guillotines are too good for them. Firing squads are more appropriate.
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Tired of being lied to by unelected Bureacrats and elected career politicians, the new ROYALTY. Guillotines are too good for them. Firing squads are more appropriate.
Yeah... but a good, strong, hemp rope is reusable and does not harm the environment.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1423052688686653440.html
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1423052688686653440.html
Doesn't condor. To liberal talking points, so completely ignored and the informant is shunned by sob story activist, sheep.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1423052688686653440.html
If they mandate vaccines there should be an exception pathway for people like this. If there isn’t then that’s medically deplorable as well as evidence that the mandate has nothing to do with science or the good of society but rather a tool of oppression. They associate the unvaccinated with their political opponents and so want to weaponize the vaccine against them.
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My pharmacist neighbor was ranting yesterday about filling prescriptions for Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Said she doesn't want to risk her license and is thinking of reporting doctors who write scripts for them.
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WHY would any intelligent human believe anything the government and liberals are saying about the scamdemic, while the same communists agents are blocking use of a drug known to help because it might give credibility to President Trump?
That kind of hypocrisy is reserved only for liberals.
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My pharmacist neighbor was ranting yesterday about filling prescriptions for Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Said she doesn't want to risk her license and is thinking of reporting doctors who write scripts for them.
Tattle on suspicious behavior. Good Comrade, the party will surely reward you!
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Tattle on suspicious behavior. Good Comrade, the party will surely reward you!
Can a Dr tell a pharmacist to shut up and prescribe the meds? Isn't the Dr the ultimate authority of what meds will work for a certain situation? I get pharmacists job is to make sure someone taking multiple meds won't have a reaction to each other, but can they refuse to prescribe just because they don't think it can be used to treat a disease? I know there have been issues with birth control and plan b meds, but I'm not too familiar with the outcomes of those situations.
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Can a Dr tell a pharmacist to shut up and prescribe the meds? Isn't the Dr the ultimate authority of what meds will work for a certain situation? I get pharmacists job is to make sure someone is making sure multiple meds won't have a reaction to each other, but can they not refuse to prescribe? I know there have been issues with birth control and plan b meds, but I'm not too familiar with the outcomes of those situations.
I suppose they could report suspected malpractice or crime but there’s nothing illegal about prescribing meds off label and basically, it’s none of the pharmacist’s business. They don’t know your health history nor do they have a medical license. As you say, I thought their responsibility was knowing the drugs, side effects and interactions, particularly if you are going to multiple doctors who might not know what other doctors are giving you. But whether a drug is appropriate for your condition, they are not qualified to judge.
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/when-they-ask-to-see-your-vaccine-passport-show-them-this/
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I got a phone call today telling me I haven’t come in for my second shot yet.
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I got a phone call today telling me I haven’t come in for my second shot yet.
did you mess with them by saying you actually did?
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did you mess with them by saying you actually did?
Haha! Actually it was a robot so no.
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So... Since the commie DeBlasio ordered unvaccinated to be shunned from society, doesn't that make him a raging racist?
Roughly 65% of black in NYC are said to be among the unvaccinated and anything that negatively affects that many blacks is certainly racist.
But...
liberals in their shameless, brainless, dickless, truthless-ness probably already prepared a great lie to cover it.
Yeah....
I know. Arbiters of truth (liars) have already written themselves a pass on their racism.
Telling truth to liberal bullshit is what's racist, not acting out racist policies.
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https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/06/pandemic-policymakers-dancing-the-delta-two-step/
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They've now made the vaccines meaningless using Republicans not getting vaccinated enough. So it's our fault, period. What's the next,moving the goalposts requirements? Fucking lying Communists.
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I suspect twitter will have this taken down shortly.
https://twitter.com/investjay_/status/1423767558654767108
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Not sure this has been posted, but it's a good one.
https://youtu.be/RUPD0W71iMc
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This situation reminds me of lepers being shunned from society, so they didn't infect others. The difference is, there's a path to not be a leper anymore.
Personally, I'd be fine if all the non-vaccinated people got together, had a big love-in and spread the virus amongst themselves. A lot of people would get sick, a lot of people would die, but at least we'd finally be past it all and we could stop hearing you all whine about the vaccine making you grow a third arm or something.
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Not sure this has been posted, but it's a good one.
https://youtu.be/RUPD0W71iMc
Can you imagine what this Doctor is enduring by standing up and telling the truth? No doubt he's being inundated with threats, and probably has people working feverishly to remove his medical license and destroy his practice. I wouldn't doubt he will see a complete IRS audit in his future, and probably a DEA audit of all his prescriptions he's written.
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This situation reminds me of lepers being shunned from society, so they didn't infect others. The difference is, there's a path to not be a leper anymore.
Personally, I'd be fine if all the non-vaccinated people got together, had a big love-in and spread the virus amongst themselves. A lot of people would get sick, a lot of people would die, but at least we'd finally be past it all and we could stop hearing you all whine about the vaccine making you grow a third arm or something.
I’d rather healthily have a third arm than have my organs infested with spike proteins.
https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html
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Can you imagine what this Doctor is enduring by standing up and telling the truth? No doubt he's being inundated with threats, and probably has people working feverishly to remove his medical license and destroy his practice. I wouldn't doubt he will see a complete IRS audit in his future, and probably a DEA audit of all his prescriptions he's written.
I don't doubt it.
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This situation reminds me of lepers being shunned from society, so they didn't infect others. The difference is, there's a path to not be a leper anymore.
Personally, I'd be fine if all the non-vaccinated people got together, had a big love-in and spread the virus amongst themselves. A lot of people would get sick, a lot of people would die, but at least we'd finally be past it all and we could stop hearing you all whine about the vaccine making you grow a third arm or something.
We should have done that in the first place and not even bothered with a vaccine. Viruses like this are better left alone to come to equilibrium with their host species. Like flu. Rather than get jabbed every year with vaccines that just guess at which variety you’re actually going to be exposed to.
They are just money makers for Big Pharma, not really what’s best for mankind.
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I’d rather healthily have a third arm than have my organs infested with spike proteins.
Those aren't the choices. Whatever issues might exist with the vaccine aren't readily apparent right now.
It looks like we'll never get rid of the virus, so we'll be living with it forever. The choice is probably going to be something like "get sick/get the vaccine or die early". As you get older, the virus plus comorbidities will be more deadly and I expect we will see a lower life expectancy in the future.
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Those aren't the choices. Whatever issues might exist with the vaccine aren't readily apparent right now.
How can you say that? We’ve just been talking here about VAERS showing normally-prohibitive numbers of deaths and health events, and we have been given (ahem) a video of a pathologist who is finding spike proteins in organs of the vaxxed.
And the “mysterious” (unknown cause) illnesses and deaths that have spiked since January. This is new territory. Hospitals are sending people home or to the morgue without knowing what is wrong with them.
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We should have done that in the first place and not even bothered with a vaccine. Viruses like this are better left alone to come to equilibrium with their host species. Like flu. Rather than get jabbed every year with vaccines that just guess at which variety you’re actually going to be exposed to.
They are just money makers for Big Pharma, not really what’s best for mankind.
The influenza virus vaccine has been with us for 78 years.
And you are correct on Big Pharma. They are making windfall record profits from these "vaccines" and now they've had a taste, they want more. Imagine having a product in which the government pays for all the research, then mandates the population to receive the product. What company wouldn't love such a deal?
And now the talk is "boosters". Yep, just keep following the money.
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Huge spike in weekly “unclassified” deaths. CDC numbers.
This is what you would expect from a medical experiment that hospitals, clinics, and labs have no real tests or diagnostic protocols for that produce a conclusion. Other than “unclassified,” that is.
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Those aren't the choices. Whatever issues might exist with the vaccine aren't readily apparent right now.
It looks like we'll never get rid of the virus, so we'll be living with it forever. The choice is probably going to be something like "get sick/get the vaccine or die early". As you get older, the virus plus comorbidities will be more deadly and I expect we will see a lower life expectancy in the future.
Lower life expectancy due to covid? I doubt it. We don’t even really know the true death rate, because the statistics still don’t distinguish between dying OF covid and dying WITH covid.
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Huge spike in weekly “unclassified” deaths. CDC numbers.
This is what you would expect from a medical experiment that hospitals, clinics, and labs have no real tests or diagnostic protocols for that produce a conclusion. Other than “unclassified,” that is.
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A bureaucrat will be along to explain you simple don't understand "the science" and please, just do as you are ordered and everything will go back to normal.
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Lower life expectancy due to covid? I doubt it. We don’t even really know the true death rate, because the statistics still don’t distinguish between dying OF covid and dying WITH covid.
Exactly.
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will go back to the "new" normal....
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This situation reminds me of lepers being shunned from society, so they didn't infect others. The difference is, there's a path to not be a leper anymore.
Personally, I'd be fine if all the non-vaccinated people got together, had a big love-in and spread the virus amongst themselves. A lot of people would get sick, a lot of people would die, but at least we'd finally be past it all and we could stop hearing you all whine about the vaccine making you grow a third arm or something.
Would they die? Really? I decided to get vaccinated, but I continue to doubt the information that we are being fed, including what you just said.
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Would they die? Really? I decided to get vaccinated, but I continue to doubt the information that we are being fed, including what you just said.
Pope Tony is declaring Sturgis as a "super spreader" event (even though last year it was not), and the goons on CNN are declaring that Obama's birthday bash of 500+ people unmasked in very close quarters as being a "Sophisticated and Vaccinated crowd".
Non stop virtue signaling.
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How can you say that? We’ve just been talking here about VAERS showing normally-prohibitive numbers of deaths and health events, and we have been given (ahem) a video of a pathologist who is finding spike proteins in organs of the vaxxed.
VAERS alone is insufficient to say that something is a side effect or a naturally occurring event. Without knowledge of how that event occurs absent the vaccine, nothing about causality can be determined.
The scenario I've seen is that commonly something happens "OMG, 10 people died!!!" and then we find out that given that population, we would have expected 12 people to have died in the same time frame without the vaccine. My experience with VAERS is that everyone is twisting themselves around the axel because the common understanding of statistics and the science of proving causes is poorly understood.
There may be side effects from the vaccine, but they aren't easily apparent right now.
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Lower life expectancy due to covid? I doubt it. We don’t even really know the true death rate, because the statistics still don’t distinguish between dying OF covid and dying WITH covid.
Lower life expectancy compared to before covid. For example in 2019 the life expectancy for men was 76.3. Given the current attitude toward the vaccines, in the future I expect life expectancy will be lower because a great number of people will not get vaccinated and will therefore die earlier than 76 when they catch covid. The newer variants are much more virulent and transmissible than the flu and future elderly people who did not have the virus when they were younger and do not get the vaccine will die.
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Lower life expectancy compared to before covid. For example in 2019 the life expectancy for men was 76.3. Given the current attitude toward the vaccines, in the future I expect life expectancy will be lower because a great number of people will not get vaccinated and will therefore die earlier than 76 when they catch covid. The newer variants are much more virulent and transmissible than the flu and future elderly people who did not have the virus when they were younger and do not get the vaccine will die.
Maybe, but correlation is not causality. The average height of Americans has been declining steadily. But it's primarily due to the huge influx of generally shorter people from south of the border. While life expectancy may indeed be shorter (for the US or for the world?), can we attribute it entirely to covid? Maybe again people from south of the border don't live as long and this is driving down the average? The average complexion of Americans is getting darker. Must be because of global warming.
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Huge spike in weekly “unclassified” deaths. CDC numbers.
This is what you would expect from a medical experiment that hospitals, clinics, and labs have no real tests or diagnostic protocols for that produce a conclusion. Other than “unclassified,” that is.
(http://)
A huge spike when flu and pneumonia drop? I'm suspicious of that. Where did you get this graph from? What is the source of the data?
Maybe a better question to ask would be why this graph even exists. The CDC is only posting provisional mortality data through the end of 2020 and I'll emphasize it isn't even finalized yet. Where did someone get finalized data that is showing mortality numbers all the way through this summer? As an agency, they're incompetent, they cannot process data that quickly. But one thing they are good at, when they make graphs they always provide a data source.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm#F1_down
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While life expectancy may indeed be shorter (for the US or for the world?), can we attribute it entirely to covid? Maybe again people from south of the border don't live as long and this is driving down the average? The average complexion of Americans is getting darker. Must be because of global warming.
I'm not attributing it to anything today. I'm observing conditions and making a prediction about the future. There will be very few old people who don't have antibodies, either naturally or via a vaccine.
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Lower life expectancy compared to before covid. For example in 2019 the life expectancy for men was 76.3. Given the current attitude toward the vaccines, in the future I expect life expectancy will be lower because a great number of people will not get vaccinated and will therefore die earlier than 76 when they catch covid. The newer variants are much more virulent and transmissible than the flu and future elderly people who did not have the virus when they were younger and do not get the vaccine will die.
Maybe life expectancy will be lowered because of suicides, drug addiction and poverty due to economic destruction caused by shutdowns.
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Can anyone here say what the stated goal of the government is for COVID?
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Can anyone here say what the stated goal of the government is for COVID?
I don't know that it was ever actually stated, but it appeared the initial goal was to get Trump out of office.
After that was successful, it transitioned into passing every item on the liberal wish list before the frogs realized how hot the water is getting.
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I don't know that it was ever actually stated, but it appeared the initial goal was to get Trump out of office.
After that was successful, it transitioned into passing every item on the liberal wish list before the frogs realized how hot the water is getting.
Very well stated.
I’d also add that it was a trial run at the conduct of a totalitarian state. And the experiment went well.
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The underlying goal was to use the scam to undermine the 1rst Amendment and end free elections, while empowering idiots who can be easily controlled by the communist chinese.
It’s working quite well and empowering lots of Karen’s along the way.
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A huge spike when flu and pneumonia drop? I'm suspicious of that. Where did you get this graph from? What is the source of the data?
Maybe a better question to ask would be why this graph even exists. The CDC is only posting provisional mortality data through the end of 2020 and I'll emphasize it isn't even finalized yet. Where did someone get finalized data that is showing mortality numbers all the way through this summer? As an agency, they're incompetent, they cannot process data that quickly. But one thing they are good at, when they make graphs they always provide a data source.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm#F1_down
My graph is from CDC itself, and goes halfway through 2021.
Mortality is not my focus here, rather “symptoms, signs and abnormal clinical and laboratory findings, not elsewhere classified.” Huge spike.
My point is that this huge spike is exactly what you would expect if hospitals, clinics, doctors and labs were trying to diagnose things that are heretofore unknown, such as what happens when large numbers of self-manufactured spike proteins are roaming around in the human body. Some docs have estimated it could be trillions … so many the body tries to get rid of them, and hence “spike protein shedding” that occurs through body orifices and in the normal means the body uses to eliminate toxins.
And why you keep ignoring the video presentation by a pathologist who actually is looking at organs and tissue damaged by spike proteins, something he saw only after the vaccines started, I’m not sure.
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Can anyone here say what the stated goal of the government is for COVID?
"The Great Reset"
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flynn is ignoring inconvenient information just like every other make believe moderate.
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My graph is from CDC itself, and goes halfway through 2021.
Can you provide a link? It's an unusual graph for the CDC to produce because they haven't finalized 2020 data yet. It's uncharacteristic of them to publish data that is so dramatic so close to the event. I'd like to see their explanation of the data.
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flynn is ignoring inconvenient information just like every other make believe moderate.
On the contrary, I am keely focused on it and would like to understand it better.
It's a weird graph and anyone with half a brain would be intensely interested in where the data came from. It's completely understandable that you'd rather throw around insults, you obviously don't have the brain cells to do two things at once. I heard you were so confused you had your wife put to sleep and got your dog a boob job.
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https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/081/030/239/original/5ef2436798b76b80.mp4?_=2
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1424399282447298563
They can’t arrest us all. They can’t keep all your kids home from school. They can’t keep every government building closed – although I’ve got a long list of ones they should. We don’t have to accept the mandates, lockdowns, and harmful policies of the petty tyrants and feckless bureaucrats.
We can simply say no, not again.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi — you will not arrest or stop me or anyone on my staff from doing our jobs. We have all either had COVID, had the vaccine, or been offered the vaccine. We will make our own health choices. We will not show you a passport, we will not wear a mask, we will not be forced into random screening and testing so you can continue your drunk with power rein over the Capitol.
President Biden — we will not accept your agencies’ mandates or your reported moves toward a lockdown. No one should follow the CDC’s anti-science mask mandates. And if you want to shutdown federal agencies again — some of which aren’t even back to work fully — I will stop every bill coming through the Senate with an amendment to cut their funding if they don’t come to work.
No more.
Local bureaucrats and union bosses — we will not allow you to do more harm to our children again this year. Children are not at any more risk from COVID than they are for the seasonal flu. Every adult who works in schools has either had the vaccine or had their chance to. There is no reason for mask mandates, part time schools, or any lockdown measures.
Children are falling behind in school, and are being harmed physically and psychologically by the tactics you have used to keep them from the classroom last year. We won’t allow it again.
If a school system attempts to keep the children from full-time, in-person school, I will hold up every bill with two amendments. One to defund them, and another to allow parents the choice of where the money goes for their child’s education.
Do I sound fed up to you? That’s because I am.
I’m not a career politician. I’ve practiced medicine for 33 years. I graduated from Duke Medical School, worked in emergency rooms, studied immunology and virology, and ultimately chose to become a surgeon.
I have been telling everyone for a year now that Dr. Anthony Fauci and other public health officials were NOT following science, and I’ve been proven right time and time again.
But I’m not the only one who is fed up. I can’t go anywhere these days — from work, to events, to airports and Ubers, restaurants and stores, without people coming up to me thanking me for standing up for them.
For standing up for actual science. For standing up for freedom. For standing against mandates, lockdowns, and bureaucratic power grabs.
I think the tide has turned, and more and more people are willing to stand up. I see stories from across the country of parents standing up to teacher unions and school boards.
I see members of Congress refusing to comply with Petty Tyrant Pelosi.
We are at a moment of truth and a crossroads. Will we allow these people to use fear and propaganda to do further harm to our society, economy, and children?
Or will we stand together and say, absolutely not. Not this time. I choose freedom.
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It’s the DELTA VARIANT! RUN FOR THE HILLS!
Q: how do you know it’s the “Delta” variant?
a: Because the experts say it is.
Q: Is there a test that can tell the “Delta” variant from just plain jane COVID?
a: no, the experts say……
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I heard you were so confused you had your wife put to sleep and got your dog a boob job.
That wasn't due to confusion. That is what he wanted. He loves his dog.
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As usual a good analysis of the covid situation.
https://rumble.com/vkwdns-forbes-reports-the-vaccinated-can-spread-covid-just-as-easily-then-deletes-.html
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https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/U/i/F/f/UiFfc.caa.mp4?_=2
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Can you provide a link? It's an unusual graph for the CDC to produce because they haven't finalized 2020 data yet. It's uncharacteristic of them to publish data that is so dramatic so close to the event. I'd like to see their explanation of the data.
I don’t have a link. They often update data monthly, and the midway point of 2020 would have been June 30.
Now, let’s talk about the pathologist’s video. It correlates.
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Not sure this has been posted, but it's a good one.
https://youtu.be/RUPD0W71iMc
Removed for violating YouTube “Community Guidelines.”
This was a doctor speaking about Covid, at a Mount Vernon, WA school board meeting I believe.
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Removed for violating YouTube terms of service. This was the doctor speaking at a Mount Vernon, WA school board meeting I believe.
Back up before it get's removed again.
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Back up before it get's removed again.
Wow. That needs to get on an alternative video site. Extremely powerful.
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Wow. That needs to get on an alternative video site. Extremely powerful.
Powerful, and true.
And it should bother anyone with any critical thought process as to why big tech and the government view this with such contempt. I will guarantee this doctor is now getting death threats, being harassed, probably having any social media he's on cancelled, and will now be audited by the IRS and have a DEA audit of his prescriptions.
But the virtue signalers will try to tell us the government knows best, and Big Pharma only wants to help.
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I don’t have a link. They often update data monthly, and the midway point of 2020 would have been June 30.
Now, let’s talk about the pathologist’s video. It correlates.
Where did you get the graph from then? I have strong doubt it's from the CDC because 1) it's in the wrong format, the CDC uses Power BI graphiing and 2) they have no category in their current data labeled "Symptoms, signs and abnormal laboratory findings." It looks very much like a fake graph.
I haven't watched the pathologist video, the signal to noise ratio here is very high. Watching it now and not impressed with him. Multiple things I see wrong.
1) The vaccine is not a gene therapy, it messenger RNA, which is different than genes.
2) mRNA therapy does not cause cancers in 6-12 months. We started this over 12 months ago and we aren't seeing that. Where is he getting his information from?
3) He states that children are having heart attacks as if it's a shock. It happens rather frequently. For deaths in children under 9, heart disease is 3.7% of deaths, from 10-24 it's 2.9% as of 2019.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf
I can't find 2020 data published yet, but if we call this rate just over 3%, I think it certainly explains why 10 children would have died within 2 weeks of having gotten the vaccine. Mortality rates are morbid, but they're better than jumping to conclusions.
4) Ivermectin obviously isn't approved for humans, but if it were you would need about 100x the safe limit to get the concentration used in the petri dish testing.
I don't believe his judgement in the area of patient practice is sound. This guy doesn't see patients, he runs a testing lab, so his deductions are theoretical and based on lab work. Except, he seems to be missing statistics in his analysis, so draws bad conclusions.
Just me, first watch of him, I'm not impressed.
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/important-moment-from-texas-senate/
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Where did you get the graph from then? I have strong doubt it's from the CDC because 1) it's in the wrong format, the CDC uses Power BI graphiing and 2) they have no category in their current data labeled "Symptoms, signs and abnormal laboratory findings." It looks very much like a fake graph.
I haven't watched the pathologist video, the signal to noise ratio here is very high. Watching it now and not impressed with him. Multiple things I see wrong.
1) The vaccine is not a gene therapy, it messenger RNA, which is different than genes.
2) mRNA therapy does not cause cancers in 6-12 months. We started this over 12 months ago and we aren't seeing that. Where is he getting his information from?
3) He states that children are having heart attacks as if it's a shock. It happens rather frequently. For deaths in children under 9, heart disease is 3.7% of deaths, from 10-24 it's 2.9% as of 2019.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf
I can't find 2020 data published yet, but if we call this rate just over 3%, I think it certainly explains why 10 children would have died within 2 weeks of having gotten the vaccine. Mortality rates are morbid, but they're better than jumping to conclusions.
4) Ivermectin obviously isn't approved for humans, but if it were you would need about 100x the safe limit to get the concentration used in the petri dish testing.
I don't believe his judgement in the area of patient practice is sound. This guy doesn't see patients, he runs a testing lab, so his deductions are theoretical and based on lab work. Except, he seems to be missing statistics in his analysis, so draws bad conclusions.
Just me, first watch of him, I'm not impressed.
Having someone plead that this doctor doesn't pass muster while supporting the utter political and profit whore, tony the quack cracks me up.
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Where did you get the graph from then? I have strong doubt it's from the CDC because 1) it's in the wrong format, the CDC uses Power BI graphiing and 2) they have no category in their current data labeled "Symptoms, signs and abnormal laboratory findings." It looks very much like a fake graph.
I haven't watched the pathologist video, the signal to noise ratio here is very high. Watching it now and not impressed with him. Multiple things I see wrong.
1) The vaccine is not a gene therapy, it messenger RNA, which is different than genes.
2) mRNA therapy does not cause cancers in 6-12 months. We started this over 12 months ago and we aren't seeing that. Where is he getting his information from?
3) He states that children are having heart attacks as if it's a shock. It happens rather frequently. For deaths in children under 9, heart disease is 3.7% of deaths, from 10-24 it's 2.9% as of 2019.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf
I can't find 2020 data published yet, but if we call this rate just over 3%, I think it certainly explains why 10 children would have died within 2 weeks of having gotten the vaccine. Mortality rates are morbid, but they're better than jumping to conclusions.
4) Ivermectin obviously isn't approved for humans, but if it were you would need about 100x the safe limit to get the concentration used in the petri dish testing.
I don't believe his judgement in the area of patient practice is sound. This guy doesn't see patients, he runs a testing lab, so his deductions are theoretical and based on lab work. Except, he seems to be missing statistics in his analysis, so draws bad conclusions.
Just me, first watch of him, I'm not impressed.
Some claim the mRNA does make insertions into the genome. This has to be sorted out.
Ivermectin is indeed approved for human use. I have a prescription for it. Several friends are taking it prophylactically. It’s not OTC. It’s been used all over India to great effect against Covid. I received an email from a local doctor today who is recommending it.
Perhaps this doctor will impress you. From another post.
https://youtu.be/auSox6ybZD8
This is a common theme among virology professionals. The vaccinated are getting ill. The vaccines do not work. The virus reacts to it in a vaccinated individual by mutating, hence no cold or flu vaccine has ever gotten rid of colds or flu.
This “vax everyone” push literally is insanity and will:
Kill people needlessly
Weaken the health of those who survive
Weaken the military and health care as people refuse and resign
Weaken the economy
Take livelihoods away from people who refuse
Destroy the education of children into perpetuity
And on and on and on. The Governor of Oregon just required vaccinations for health care workers, and the DOD just notified all military today that they are doing the same.
Insanity … or someone/group of someone’s is engaging in a China-style ramp up to tyranny.
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As with everything communist, I mean democrat,
when they start vaccinating every illegal alien,
And
Hold china and iran to every jot and tittle of the bullshit climate treaties and bullshit agreements they invent,
And
When they start telling the unvarnished truth about their party and it's historic affection for murder, lynching, Chris s burning, the kkk, butchering Indians, embracing murderous regimes from khomeni to hilary,
Then
I want to hear about their fake struggles.
The rest is bullshit and lies, stealing other peoples work and ideas, then projecting their failures onto those who actually contribute instead of live off the taxpayers.
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4) Ivermectin obviously isn't approved for humans,
Yes it is.
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Powerful, and true.
And it should bother anyone with any critical thought process as to why big tech and the government view this with such contempt. I will guarantee this doctor is now getting death threats, being harassed, probably having any social media he's on cancelled, and will now be audited by the IRS and have a DEA audit of his prescriptions.
But the virtue signalers will try to tell us the government knows best, and Big Pharma only wants to help.
I would pass this along as a part of the conversation. I've been known to go looking for alternative viewpoints.
https://www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/addressing-dr-daniel-stock-claims
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Yes it is.
It is approved for humans, so it is apparently safe enough.
It is NOT approved for COVID19, but doctors often use approved meds "off label" for diseases it is not approved for. (At least veterinarians do that).
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I would pass this along as a part of the conversation. I've been known to go looking for alternative viewpoints.
https://www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/addressing-dr-daniel-stock-claims
I found this:
Edward has a Bachelor of Science from Cornell University, where he studied biochemistry.
In another area, he fancies himself a "Science Communicator"......whatever the fuck that is.
So there, it seems Mr. Nirenberg is a "science fact checker", In other words, he has all the credibility of Bill Nye "the science guy".
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It is approved for humans, so it is apparently safe enough.
It is NOT approved for COVID19, but doctors often use approved meds "off label" for diseases it is not approved for. (At least veterinarians do that).
Regular people doctors do that too and it’s perfectly legal.
The ivermectin horse paste is not approved for humans by the FDA because of two things: dose, and inactive ingredients, not because ivermectin itself is unapproved. It is NOT illegal for a human to use it or for tractor supply to sell it. I wouldn’t be surprised though if there are bills being prepared in Congress as we speak to change that.
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/good-gawd-theyre-threatening-doctors-now/
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I found this:
In another area, he fancies himself a "Science Communicator"......whatever the fuck that is.
So there, it seems Mr. Nirenberg is a "science fact checker", In other words, he has all the credibility of Bill Nye "the science guy".
I read the entire Nirenberg response closely. (Spell check substituted Nuremberg when I typed his name.)
It seems to consist partly of what I’d call “anti-fear” porn and as always, seemingly “official” numbers and interpretations about the “official” behavior of viruses and disease and vaccinations once installed in the human body. And he a “Science Communicator?” Sorry. Comparison to Bill Nye is apt.
My goodness, Nirenberg makes it sound like 17 VACCINE-CAUSED deaths per million, and almost totally discounting the very existence of horrific side effects like blood clots and mysterious heretofore unknown maladies, is fine and dandy because greater good. It’s the side effects that are generating resistance, for heaven’s sake!
We’re at a place now in human history, which was always the case, but it’s more obvious now because of the internet, where we are presented with “facts” and told to “trust them.” The trouble with this is that incidents and numbers and “facts” can all be manipulated for agendas known and hidden, or only now beginning to be exposed.
Again, it’s down to we the people, personal observations, and for those of us with faith, God the Father.
As Jean Luc would say, “Engage.” And I would add, “Resist.” It’s disengaging from careful analysis right now , and putting aside our truest instincts, that will usher in the Great Reset.
https://twitter.com/nuancebro/status/1424768475583684617
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Make up your own mind, there are articles that support this and others that trash it.
And there in lies the problem, with so much censorship and propaganda it's hard to get to the truth.
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23/51
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/medical_insanity_as_described_by_an_md.html
August 6, 2021
Medical insanity, as described by an MD
By Matt Bettag, MD
When did the world become insane? What is the reason for it? Big Brother? Depopulation? Or people in love with control? I don't know and it's driving me nuts. But I've decided I'm tired of complaining about it to my friends and family and I'm willing to put my name on the line. If the woke culture wants to ruin me for speaking the truth, I guess I might as well just get it over with now.
I have been a physician for 24 years, a practicing ENT for 19 years. I have never before seen the medical establishment just stop thinking. Insanity is the new rule, and common sense cannot even be discussed.
From the beginning, 15 days to flatten the curve, I was shocked. We had never done this before, but perhaps this virus was really bad, so I gave the government the benefit of the doubt.
Then came Fauci. He initially said social distancing didn't work, and masks were largely ineffective. But by late March, he pronounced both masking and social distancing necessary. Weird...red flag. But what really hit me was that he went on to say people should use Tinder and Grindr at their own discretion. What? How do you socially distance that? So now I am alarmed.
I started researching the utility of masks. There were very good articles I found — one out of a respiratory center in Chicago, and another a good dental review. I bookmarked both of them. Less than a month later, the dental website was down, replaced by a text saying basically that their information is now irrelevant because of COVID. The Chicago article also had a disclaimer that previously wasn't there saying people shouldn't use their article politically. What? Don't use a scientifically-derived article to make a scientifically based decision on the utility of masks? What the hell is going on?
Next comes PCR. Let's conveniently jack up the cycles to 40+, resulting in a 90–97% false-positive rate, then let's start testing all elective surgery, asymptomatic exposures, and hospitalized patients. In addition, we will reimburse hospitals greatly for COVID admissions and ICU visits. Oxygen doesn't work; go home until you get worse. Oh, and bring your family and friends with you; they'll need testing.
Steroids were advised against early on, which makes no sense because they do decrease inflammation and in ENT have been used widely for viral illness. Next, we find a few weeks later the secret drug to treat COVID: steroids. What?
HCQ, not safe. Has been used for decades worldwide with a great safety profile, but not anymore, because orange man bad. Mention it, and you are a lunatic. The same went for any other proven therapeutic, such as ivermectin and vitamin D.
Vaccines? I wouldn't trust anything the president made. That was Kamala Harris back in the fall. Now if you don't get vaccinated, you don't care about other people, and you wanna watch people die. Oh, and by the way, we should vaccinate everyone, including those who previously had COVID, pregnant women, and small children.
What about VAERS? That's the open record report system that the CDC has made almost unnavigable. It's slowly crept up and showed up to 12,000 deaths coincident with the vaccine. Then dropped to 6,000, only to come back up to 10,000 and now back to 12,000. Just a little glitch from our trustworthy government. There are reports that the numbers could be ten times or more as high, and perhaps the CDC is misclassifying deaths to hide them. But let's trust the government; they've been so good thus far.
Now the latest, the delta variant, is surging because of the unvaccinated. Ignore the data from other countries that have very high vaccine rates but high spiking cases, and ignore the data from other countries that have low vaccine rates and almost no COVID. As a matter of fact, let's not even look at Sweden, which essentially didn't do lockdowns or masking, has a low vaccination rate, and has almost zero COVID.
I have never lived in a world like this, where open medical dialogue is completely suppressed and there is only one party line. I thought the left was always talking about how we shouldn't bully people, and we need to have "dialogue." Well...let's start. The media and the government need to do their job and start opening dialogue to the other side. If we are crazy, it will come out. If we are right, and the data show that to be the fact, then a large apology is warranted.
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/medical_insanity_as_described_by_an_md.html
Outstanding.
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Outstanding.
Yet, you won't see this anywhere else. When I have pure, lying PROPAGANDA coming at me 24/7 at work, in stores, in all Media, Entertainment, (most taxpayer funded) I know something is very, very wrong. Soylent Green wrong.
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Are you saying the more authoritarian a government gets the more bribery and corruption there is?
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Are you saying the more authoritarian a government gets the more bribery and corruption there is?
Yes, and more of the economy and other things go underground to black markets and we become some South American shit hole. NOTHING happens without bribes and sometimes large bribes. So, only the rich get what they want. But you already know all that.
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Are you saying the more authoritarian a government gets the more bribery and corruption there is?
Take a gringo $20 note to any third world, or any dictator controlled country and you can get almost anything you need. ;)
Our country is getting to that point.
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From Gab:
“My boss is mandating that everyone be infected with Coronavirus because it grants natural immunity to Coronavirus. We must be Fully Infected in a month. Some employees have noted that Coronavirus might lead to death, but company lawyers assure us that those cases are statistically quite rare. I've made an appointment with the local Chinese restaurant to have a waitress cough on my face.”
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Yes, we're being played.......
https://twitter.com/i/status/1425571346382303233
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The Mask is the new NAZI Swastika armband to show allegiance and compliance out of fear you will be shipped to the Russian Front. Pure Kabuki Theater.
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The Mask is the new NAZI Swastika armband to show allegiance and compliance out of fear you will be shipped to the Russian Front. Pure Kabuki Theater.
I totally agree.
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Oh Goody. Be afraid! Be very afraid! Vaccines don't really work! Everyone lockdown now! When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pfizers-vaccine-efficacy-dropped-42-105945416.html
Business Insider
Pfizer's vaccine efficacy dropped to 42% while Moderna's was at 76% when the Delta variant became the dominant strain, study says
During that month in Minnesota, Pfizer's effectiveness against COVID-19 infection dropped to 42% while Moderna's dropped less dramatically to 76% effectiveness.
An unnamed senior Biden official told Axios of the study: "If that's not a wakeup call, I don't know what is."
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An unnamed senior Biden official
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More idiocy
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fauci-urges-booster-shots-for-people-with-weakened-immune-systems
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https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1425954243807260674
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https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1425954243807260674
and the rabid ‘I demand YOU get vaccinated’ crowd will brainlessly ignore this and all the other facts of this scam, while accusing the rest of us of wanting to kill people…
Liberalism is a mental illness combined with a massive ego trip.
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...or a drooling, obama worshipping, communist in training.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/12/next-up-vaccine-resistant-covid-lambda-variant-from-central-and-south-america-the-2022-mid-term-lock-down-and-mail-in-ballot-variant/
Next Up, Vaccine Resistant COVID Lambda Variant From Central and South America, The 2022 Mid-Term Lock-down and Mail-In Ballot Variant
August 12, 2021 | Sundance
Old COVID narrative = A “Delta Variant” transmissible regardless of vaccinated status, but presumably with the vaccine you won’t get as sick… or so they say. However, not content with the vaccine results so far….
…Now we get the new COVID narrative – A “Lambda Variant” that is not only infectious and transmissible regardless of vaccinated status (just like Delta), but the Lambda Variant is also resistant to any antiviral immunity, meaning the COVID-19 vaccine doesn’t work against it.
New York Post – As the US struggles to suppress the rapidly advancing coronavirus Delta variant, new evidence has emerged that the latest Lambda mutation — ravaging parts of South America — won’t be slowed by vaccines.
In a July 28 report appearing on bioRxiv, where the study awaits peer review prior to getting published, researchers in Japan are sounding the alarm on the C.37 variant, dubbed Lambda. And it’s proven just as virulent as Delta thanks to a similar mutation making them even more contagious.
The strain has been contained in 26 countries, including substantial outbreaks in Chile, Peru, Argentina and Ecuador.
“Notably, the vaccination rate in Chile is relatively high; the percentage of the people who received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine was [about] 60%,” the authors write.
“Nevertheless, a big COVID-19 surge has occurred in Chile in Spring 2021, suggesting that the Lambda variant is proficient in escaping from the antiviral immunity elicited by vaccination,” they warn. […] “In addition to increasing viral infectivity, the Delta variant exhibits higher resistance to the vaccine-induced neutralization,” the authors said. “Similarly, here we showed that the Lambda variant equips not only increased infectivity but also resistance against antiviral immunity.” (read more)
Despite the Lambda variant coming from South and Central America, the Biden administration is keeping the U.S. Southern border open specifically to entice, well, Southern and Central American migrants… Huh, go figure.
If you are cynically thinking this sounds suspiciously like a new “mid-term 2022 lockdown and mail-in ballot variant“… well, you would not be alone.
These folks are nothing, if not predictable.
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This clip is from two months ago but went viral this weekend — The swab used to test for Covid is made in China, and is saturated with Ethylene Oxide (EO), which according to the CDC is a carcinogen, damages DNA and fertility.
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Make up your own ind....
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-eo-swabs-idUSL1N2LU1H0
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Got my Ivermectin prescription filled today.
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Make up your own ind....
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-eo-swabs-idUSL1N2LU1H0
"the process is tightly controlled"
yeah, stuff from China is always of the highest quality...
I crack myself up...
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Worth every minute. Good for your hypnotized friends and relatives who are willing to engage thoughtfully for a while.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZJG37A8xnpmN/
Got my Ivermectin prescription filled today.
If the government, WHO and CDC actually cared about our health (I know, right), they would have issued everyone ivermectin.
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https://twitter.com/JohnEkdahl/status/1427427685546987527
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Got my Ivermectin prescription filled today.
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Not that one, the actual pills.
Not that I have anything against horses.............
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https://uncoverdc.com/2021/08/16/experts-the-covid-emergency-is-over/
Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, asserted on Friday that COVID-19 will become an endemic virus in the United States and other Western countries once the recent rise in Delta variant infections calms down. Likewise, two professors—one from Stanford and one from Harvard—have essentially declared the pandemic over, writing that “In [the] USA, COVID mortality is now the lowest since the start of the pandemic in March 2020.”
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Listen to Mr. Ed. He never lies.
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So.... POS mikey is whining about how EVERYBODU MUST get vaccinated to avoid death by scamdemic.
The senile imposter and his whore friends are beating the same drum as loud as possible.
Governor Abbott of Texas is vaccinated AND suffering from COVID.
How do people like POS Mikey justify their hypocrisy and complete lack of facts?
https://www.newsmax.com/us/covid-19-vaccinated-governor-greg-abbott/2021/08/17/id/1032764/
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As we know the Government/Corporate CABAL is using Covid, CRT, Affirmative Action, sexism, LGBT, etc.to strip us of our Rights codified by the Constitution. This shit needs to Stop NOW.
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So.... POS mikey is whining about how EVERYBODU MUST get vaccinated to avoid death by scamdemic.
The senile imposter and his whore friends are beating the same drum as loud as possible.
Governor Abbott of Texas is vaccinated AND suffering from COVID.
How do people like POS Mikey justify their hypocrisy and complete lack of facts?
https://www.newsmax.com/us/covid-19-vaccinated-governor-greg-abbott/2021/08/17/id/1032764/
Unless it’s a false positive.
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Fuckin’ pedofile.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-extend-travel-mask-mandate-january-18-2022/
One fuckin’ lie after another.
“15 days to slow the spread” began in March 2020 so this mask mandate extension to January 2022 will mean almost two years of Covid tyranny for Americans (until Biden extends the mandate again).
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Fuckin’ pedofile.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-extend-travel-mask-mandate-january-18-2022/
One fuckin’ lie after another.
Can't say I didn't see that coming.
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Keep stoking the propaganda:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/unvaccinated-couple-dies-of-covid-19-on-same-day/vi-AANpxfh?ocid=msedgntp
Never post "vaccinated couple dies".
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Can't say I didn't see that coming.
These fuckin’ idiots that follow that moronic liberal ideology will never figure out once government takes something away, they don’t give it back.
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So.... POS mikey is whining about how EVERYBODU MUST get vaccinated to avoid death by scamdemic.
The senile imposter and his whore friends are beating the same drum as loud as possible.
Governor Abbott of Texas is vaccinated AND suffering from COVID.
How do people like POS Mikey justify their hypocrisy and complete lack of facts?
https://www.newsmax.com/us/covid-19-vaccinated-governor-greg-abbott/2021/08/17/id/1032764/
He has no symptoms.
"Abbott, who is fully vaccinated, is not experiencing any symptoms and is isolating at the Governor's Mansion, spokesperson Mark Miner said in a statement. He is getting Regeneron's monoclonal antibody treatment."
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/17/texas-governor-greg-abbott-positive-covid/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2021/08/17/texas-governor-greg-abbott-positive-covid/)
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https://twitter.com/BrittRooted/status/1427849481551106056
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https://twitter.com/BrittRooted/status/1427849481551106056
She’s my friggin’ hero.
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https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1426209722298994690
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7645850/
3. CONCLUSION
Given the strong evidence that ADE is a non‐theoretical and compelling risk for COVID‐19 vaccines and the “laundry list” nature of informed consents, disclosure of the specific risk of worsened COVID‐19 disease from vaccination calls for a specific, separate, informed consent form and demonstration of patient comprehension in order to meet medical ethics standards. The informed consent process for ongoing COVID‐19 vaccine trials does not appear to meet this standard. While the COVID‐19 global health emergency justifies accelerated vaccine trials of candidates with known liabilities, such an acceleration is not inconsistent with additional attention paid to heightened informed consent procedures specific to COVID‐19 vaccine risks.
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https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1428716975757348873
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https://www.westernjournal.com/twj-covid-tracker-latest-covid-numbers-media-may-not-want-see/
Is the COVID-19 pandemic spiraling out of control?
As the delta variant continues to spread, recent weeks have seen many news outlets claim as much.
However, in many of these cases, outlets are engaging in what seems to be a dishonest bait-and-switch — where their coverage was once focused on the fatality rate and number of COVID deaths, now it seems to be centered on the number of new COVID cases.
Due to the seemingly dishonest, shifting nature of this coverage, The Western Journal has decided to provide regular updates on the COVID fatality rate in the United States as it changes over time. These statistics are taken from Our World in Data, a trusted source on COVID-related statistics.
Aug. 16, 2021, Update:
Trending: Biden Administration Announces It Will Cancel Student Debt, But Only for a Certain Group of People
0.66 percent case fatality rate (moving-average)
2.13 deaths per million people (7-day rolling average)
406 cases per million people (7-day rolling average)
In August, the U.S. continues to experience its lowest COVID-related fatality rate since the onset of the pandemic — roughly 0.66 percent.
Despite this, the majority of coverage on COVID over the week prior (Aug. 8 to Aug. 15) avoided reporting the fatality rate or overall death statistics, opting instead to cover the rising number of COVID cases.
The best example of this is seen in reporting from The New York Times.
A number of such stories published by the Times lamented the growing threat of the delta variant and its hand in the rising number of cases without once mentioning the plummeting fatality rate.
This included stories such as “Taylor Mac’s ‘Joy and Pandemic’ Is Postponed as Covid Cases Surge,” “Jason Isbell and Stevie Nicks cancel shows over COVID concerns,” “Coronavirus Briefing: What Happened Today” and “Virus Misinformation Spikes as Delta Cases Surge,” among others.
One of the only Times stories to mention COVID deaths was “We Studied One Million Students. This Is What We Learned About Masking,” published on Aug. 10.
The story suggested that, despite their rarity, COVID deaths among children are too prevalent and, because of this, mask mandates must be enforced for children.
“Schools that do not require masks will have more coronavirus transmission,” the article read.
“And while mortality from Covid was only two per 100,000 school-age children as of April, with more than 50 million public school children in the United States, that could still mean many avoidable deaths of children in a year.”
The data on child mortality for COVID cited by the story shows that, in 2020, deaths caused by injury, suicide, cancer, homicide, congenital anomalies, heart disease, chronic lower respiratory diseases, cerebrovascular complications and even influenza were all more common than those related to COVID among children ages 1-17.
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https://twitter.com/AbbyJohnson/status/1429256398706204676
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With the MEDIA and Democrats it was always about number of Cases first. Which is meaningless. Mortality rate was always hidden. Number of deaths have also been inflated from the beginning. Lying scum.
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https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 (https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19)
My DIL brought this up yesterday.
BTW, the Front Line Docs will do a video call with you and prescribe Ivermectin.
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I can see covid is becoming another fake goal (to eradicate it) that we will never reach but we must do massive social and economic harm to ourselves in the futile attempt. It will never happen. It is here to stay, like colds and flu.
What are some others? Unreachable goals but we turn ourselves inside out trying to reach?
* eliminate addiction and drug abuse
* stop the extinction of all non-human species
* stop climate change
* end all human prejudice (except against white straight males and any minority not woke)
* achieve economic equality of outcome (for the masses, not the elite)
Of course, the massive harm done to society trying to achieve these unreachable goals doesn’t include the elite class. They still have their mansions, jets, riches, parties without masks, drugs without consequences and openly hate others for their politics or the color of their skin, and now, their vaccination status.
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With the MEDIA and Democrats it was always about number of Cases first. Which is meaningless. Mortality rate was always hidden. Number of deaths have also been inflated from the beginning. Lying scum.
A year+ ago, it was all about the daily death count, ignoring the high probability that millions of people had been exposed and suffered none/mild symptoms, many not even knowing they "had" it, thereby "justifying" the overwrought government response.
Now, all of the major news propaganda outlets tout "cases" while ignoring
-huge number of false positives
-no demographics of the dead/very ill
and making up the "cases" from the so-called "Delta Variant" to scare the skeptics into getting the jab.
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https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html (https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html)
Ivermectin obliterates 97 percent of Delhi cases
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Can't take creidt for this, Jim posted it on the PB
https://c19ivermectin.com/
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A year+ ago, it was all about the daily death count, ignoring the high probability that millions of people had been exposed and suffered none/mild symptoms, many not even knowing they "had" it, thereby "justifying" the overwrought government response.
Now, all of the major news propaganda outlets tout "cases" while ignoring
-huge number of false positives
-no demographics of the dead/very ill
and making up the "cases" from the so-called "Delta Variant" to scare the skeptics into getting the jab.
The VAST MAJORITY dying WITH Covid, very old and very sick, NOT FROM IT. Fucking liars all.
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Phil Valentine has died from COVID.
Nobody dies from COVID. They die from something complicated by COVID.
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Australia has gone full Orwellian.
https://twitter.com/CharlieEmmaUK/status/1429471216260235266
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1429832227567902730
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Australia has gone full Orwellian.
https://twitter.com/CharlieEmmaUK/status/1429471216260235266
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9fXqQbWYAYy1o6?format=jpg&name=small)
The once great British Empire is now a sniveling, fearful, effeminate colony. How pathetic.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2021/08/24/will_covid_fearmongers_ever_let_the_pandemic_end_550097.html?utm_source=rcp-today&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mailchimp-newsletter&mc_cid=4e552d922e
https://www.city-journal.org/will-policymakers-let-the-covid-crisis-end?wallit_nosession=1
Throughout the pandemic, American political and public-health leaders have been following Rahm Emanuel’s classic dictum for power-seeking officials: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” Now they’ve adopted a corollary: you never want a crisis to end.
So they are prolonging the national misery instead of easing it, which could be done with a few simple strategies. Explain to the public that the virus will never disappear but is no longer a mortal threat to the vast majority of Americans. Encourage the minority still at risk to get vaccinated by honestly discussing who is in jeopardy and what scientists have learned about infections. Promote treatments proven to prevent infection and speed recovery while avoiding unproven treatments and mandates that cause collateral damage and generate mistrust. Above all, make it clear to Americans that we finally have reason to celebrate: what once seemed an unprecedented danger is now just one of many pathogens that we know how to live with.
But the nation’s crisismongers aren’t about to relinquish their hold over the public, so they’ve set new goals that are as unachievable as they are unnecessary and harmful. Making vaccines available to every American adult is no longer sufficient; now the crisis cannot end until the entire population has been vaccinated. Instead of focusing efforts on vaccinating the vulnerable, officials obsess on compelling universal obedience, even if that means squandering vaccines on people who already have acquired natural immunity or are at minimal risk of serious illness.
The same progressives who regularly denounce “systemic racism” and “Western imperialism” are now enforcing policies that disproportionately punish minorities and the poor, both in the United States (the majority of black teenagers and young adults in New York have been banished from much of public life by the city’s new vaccine-passport policy) and in the rest of the world. The hypocrisy was deftly captured in a tweet by Martin Kulldorff, the Harvard epidemiologist: “If you favor university vaccine mandates for low-risk American and European students, when there is not enough vaccine for older high-risk people in Asia, Africa and Latin America, please remove your #BLM tags from your Twitter/Facebook profiles.”
Children are being sentenced to another round of unnecessary mask mandates and probably more school closures based on evidence-free warnings from Anthony Fauci and others that the Delta variant will be more deadly to them than the original virus. While the variant is more infectious, the evidence does not show it to be any more lethal. In fact, the current mortality rate among American children with Covid is lower than it was last year—and last year many more children died of the flu than of Covid. One of the most thorough studies, in England, shows that the survival rate for those under 18 with Covid is 99.995 percent. But instead of emphasizing these reassuring statistics, public-health officials like Jerome Adams, the surgeon general, keep looking for new ways to scare parents and children.
“I’m an anesthesiologist,” he tweeted last weekend. “And a dad. And I can assure you in both capacities that your child will be far more comfortable if they’re in a face mask, than on a ventilator. If you’re making a choice on behalf of a child, please choose based on their comfort, vs yours.” He offered no new evidence that children are at heightened risk from the virus, much less any evidence that a mask would make any difference, but he did make sure to include a gruesome photograph of a child on a ventilator.
It was a new low in public-health demagoguery, but unfortunately not so different from the fearmongering of other officials, the press, and social-media platforms. They lament that a minority of the public remains reluctant to get vaccinated without recognizing that their own tactics are likely a chief cause of this reluctance. They have been misleading people for so long—and censoring challenges to their misinformation—that it’s no wonder polls show that an overwhelming majority of unvaccinated Americans say they don’t trust Fauci or the CDC.
Many of these unvaccinated people have mistaken ideas about vaccine side effects, but they’re not wrong when they tell pollsters that the dangers of the virus have been exaggerated and exploited for political purposes. The White House and its Democratic allies in the press have seized on the seasonal surge in the Sun Belt to attack Republicans for not mandating masks—while largely ignoring surges in Democratic strongholds with mask mandates and other restrictions, like Hawaii, Oregon, and San Francisco.
This political cherry-picking of data has been the norm during the pandemic. During surges last year, Florida and Sweden’s failure to lock down and mandate masks was blamed for the outbreaks—never mind that both places did better than average in limiting mortality over the course of the year. In Sweden, which kept its schools open without masks or social distancing during the spread of the Delta variant this year, the overall mortality rate this year has actually been lower than normal.
The CDC continues to undermine its credibility by claiming strong evidence for the efficacy of lockdowns and mask mandates. Dozens of studies have found that lockdowns are ineffective, and one recent analysis of trends in the United States and other countries found that lockdown policies are associated with an increase in excess deaths. The evidence offered by the CDC for mask mandates is weak, as Jeffrey H. Anderson has documented, and the most rigorous research—from more than a dozen randomized clinical trials—suggests that masks are ineffective (and possibly counterproductive) at stopping viral spread. One recent study, which tracked Covid case growth across the United States, concluded that “mask mandates and use are not associated with slower state-level Covid-19 spread during Covid-19 growth surges.”
Even Robert Redfield, who made unsubstantiated claims for mask efficacy last year while he was directing the CDC, now concedes that there is a “paucity of data” to support mask mandates. When asked if the CDC is wrong to be recommending masks for schoolchildren, he replied, “I’m saying that I haven’t been able to review data that supports that recommendation.”
His successors at the agency, unfortunately, seem less interested in reviewing data than in hiding it. As David Zweig reported in New York, when researchers from the CDC compared Covid-mitigation techniques at 169 elementary schools in Georgia, they found no statistically significant reduction of infections in schools that required masks for students, enforced social distancing, or installed barriers between desks. Those were important findings because it was the first such large study, but the CDC did not even mention them in the summary of research that it published. Instead, the agency went on recommending masks for all students.
The European Union’s equivalent of the CDC, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, has sensibly recommended against masking students under age 12 because of the physical, psychological, and social harms to children, but American officials have made no effort to weigh the costs and benefits. The National Institutes of Health hasn’t even bothered to study the negative impacts of its mask policies on children. Dozens of other researchers, though, have demonstrated an array of problems called “Mask-Induced Exhaustion Syndrome.” The problems include decrease in blood oxygen saturation; increase in blood carbon dioxide; increase in heart and respiratory rates; difficulty breathing; dizziness; headache; drowsiness; and decreased ability to concentrate and think.
Masking children at minimal risk from the virus was justified last year on the grounds that it might prevent infections of vulnerable adults who had no defense against the virus. But now that vaccines are readily available, why harm children for the sake of adults who have deliberately chosen not to protect themselves? Since when do children bear responsibility for adults’ decisions?
The mask mandates for children can’t be justified on ethical or scientific grounds, but they persist because they serve the interests of a certain class of adults. The purpose of this hygiene theater was described with blunt accuracy by Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor and one of the few politicians who has actually been following the science during the pandemic. “Politicians,” he explained, “want to force you to cover your face as a way for them to cover their own asses.”
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https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-washington-public-school-forces-unvaccinated-teens-to-wear-ankle-monitors
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This entire scamdemic is about control and distruction of the Billof Rights, aided and abetted by a hostile group of selfish, Whiny snowflakes.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/it-finally-peaked-delta-delta-turns-negative
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https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-washington-public-school-forces-unvaccinated-teens-to-wear-ankle-monitors
Give these fuckers an inch, and they’ll take a mile.
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I think a yellow star armband would be less expensive and more visible so people would be alerted to keep their distance.
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I think a yellow star armband would be less expensive and more visible so people would be alerted to keep their distance.
With tattooed number on their arm, then as time permits, a chip installed. Must keep up with the times!
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Nails what we are dealing with.
https://rumble.com/vlivjw-authoritarianism-is-authoritarianism-regardless-of-sub-form.html
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https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/it-finally-peaked-delta-delta-turns-negative
Delta has not peaked yet. It is on the decline in FL, but on the rise in most other states and there are many states the wave hasn’t reached yet. If you go to covidactnow.org, you can track it. A week ago the US was mostly yellow and red with only two states in the darker red. But now, going through the individual states, every one of them is on the rise.
Zerohedge should probably go back to investing.
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Delta has not peaked yet. It is on the decline in FL, but on the rise in most other states and there are many states the wave hasn’t reached yet. If you go to covidactnow.org, you can track it. A week ago the US was mostly yellow and red with only two states in the darker red. But now, going through the individual states, every one of them is on the rise.
Zerohedge should probably go back to investing.
So what? No more risk to the otherwise healthy than the other strain, yet idiot Sheeple keep putting up with the oppression.
If you're old and sick, take precautions if you want. Otherwise live your fucking life. You probably only get ONE.
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The extreme damage to the entire world’s economy is not worth it. We don’t even have a grasp on how far reaching and devastating it is and will be for years. Supply chain disruptions are severe and having an impact on several industries. The psychological damage is profound. Impact on personal lives in so many ways. None of this is covered openly in mainstream media. The damage will be suffered by the young generations for decades to come, yet the great majority of deaths due to covid are the old and already near dead. Nowhere in nature do you sacrifice the young and healthy for the sake of the old, weak, sick, and already near dead. I don’t want to hear about the rare cases of young healthy people dying of covid. Rare outliers don’t change the math. Millions of deaths are happening due to starvation and economic devastation caused by the lockdowns. Those numbers won’t show up in your WHO/CDC case counts because letting the public know about that doesn’t fit the agenda of the elected class, using all of this to gain power.
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Damage to the economy means little when the end game is for everyone to work a meager and grim government job for a meager and grim existence.
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Here in Georgia, unemployment is, technically, down to pre-pandemic levels, 3.7%, only because so many people are not looking for work. This is evidenced by the huge number of places with hiring signs out and the apparent lack of staff in many places.
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Here in Georgia, unemployment is, technically, down to pre-pandemic levels, 3.7%, only because so many people are not looking for work. This is evidenced by the huge number of places with hiring signs out and the apparent lack of staff in many places.
Yes, the low unemployment number is not a sign of a healthy economy in this case.
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Damage to the economy means little when the end game is for everyone to work a meager and grim government job for a meager and grim existence.
Damage to the economy is actually the goal.
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Damage to the economy is actually the goal.
With the end of American sovereignty as the main goal. Open borders, oppression from ALL sides, This country needs to be disbanded and States become individual sovereign nations again.
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(https://i.imgur.com/XoTvT1D.jpg)
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Delta has not peaked yet.
So what?
So, Zerohedge appears to be wrong. They care because people who don’t know better care and that affects the market. Their expectation is that we will get a move upward
Also, other people who freak over this do things that affect you and me.
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If there was no "news" or social media, if the government didn't force business to shut down and send people home from their jobs and wear masks, I personally would have no inkling that the virus even exists.
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If there was no "news" or social media, if the government didn't force business to shut down and send people home from their jobs and wear masks, I personally would have no inkling that the virus even exists.
When the games was rigged from the start you see how idiotic the leftists are.
These are people who LOVE to pretend to be afraid of things.
Guns, 'assault rifles', scary black things that shoot, fake global warming, oil pipelines, scamdemics, and all the other bullshit that gives lefties self induced climaxes.
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If there was no "news" or social media, if the government didn't force business to shut down and send people home from their jobs and wear masks, I personally would have no inkling that the virus even exists.
There have been 38 million COVID cases since the beginning. Sooner or later we’re going to run out of people who aren’t vaccinated or infected, but at this rate it’s going to be a few years. By that point, all the leftist city economies should be ruined.
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When the games was rigged from the start you see how idiotic the leftists are.
These are people who LOVE to pretend to be afraid of things.
Guns, 'assault rifles', scary black things that shoot, fake global warming, oil pipelines, scamdemics, and all the other bullshit that gives lefties self induced climaxes.
The Democrat leadership and their handlers/controllers aren't. They know it's all bullshit but use it for an excuse for bigger government, higher taxes, more regulation, Marxism, Totalarian bs. It's all a scam but the useful idiots believe it all.
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When the games was rigged from the start you see how idiotic the leftists are.
These are people who LOVE to pretend to be afraid of things.
Guns, 'assault rifles', scary black things that shoot, fake global warming, oil pipelines, scamdemics, and all the other bullshit that gives lefties self induced climaxes.
Is it just that some people can't think and do for themselves? It's like they need a parental figure or governance to tell them how to live. Jesus, people, it's not that hard...
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Is it just that some people can't think and do for themselves?
I believe it's that certain segments believe that others can't think for themselves. They believe it's their mission in life to save the unfortunate.
Seeing how some people behave, it's hard to argue that they're wrong.
Unfortunately, their solutions are always based on the lowest level and they want to enforce it on everyone. For example, there legitimately are people who should not have guns and given the moral corruptness in the world, maybe a lot of them. But there are many people who are ok with guns because they were raised to respect people and respect firearms. But the leftist view is that some people being deficient means nobody can be trusted.
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Is it just that some people can't think and do for themselves? It's like they need a parental figure or governance to tell them how to live.
For way too many people, that is true.
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I believe it's that certain segments believe that others can't think for themselves. They believe it's their mission in life to save the unfortunate.
Seeing how some people behave, it's hard to argue that they're wrong.
Unfortunately, their solutions are always based on the lowest level and they want to enforce it on everyone. For example, there legitimately are people who should not have guns and given the moral corruptness in the world, maybe a lot of them. But there are many people who are ok with guns because they were raised to respect people and respect firearms. But the leftist view is that some people being deficient means nobody can be trusted.
THIS ^^^^ Set policy to the lowest common denominator. Except that is the very opposite of the concept of individual liberty.
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Unfortunately, their solutions are always based on the lowest level and they want to enforce it on everyone. For example, there legitimately are people who should not have guns and given the moral corruptness in the world, maybe a lot of them. But there are many people who are ok with guns because they were raised to respect people and respect firearms. But the leftist view is that some people being deficient means nobody can be trusted.
thread drift:
This kind of problem applies to any number of things. There are people who should not be trusted with the care of children... or pets... or...
But how do we know ahead of time?
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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
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thread drift:
This kind of problem applies to any number of things. There are people who should not be trusted with the care of children... or pets... or...
But how do we know ahead of time?
Better to have maximum freedom and let some Darwin themselves out. You have to compare lives saved by ivermectin to lives lost by ivermectin idiots. (Or any other thing you want to save people from themselves by controlling their behavior.) No doubt many more are saved. The problem is we probably can’t possibly get honest reporting on that.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930521/Florida-woman-diagnosed-COVID-comes-home-hospital-husband-dead-bedroom.html
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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
I did a quick scan of the actual article, since the abstract failed to mention the results of the death outcomes.
The abstract says they studied three cohorts in order to compare rates of infection of those who acquired natural immunity versus vaccination:
(1) SARS-CoV-2-naïve individuals (people who had never had the disease) who got two Pfizer shots in January and February.
(2) Same as (1) except only one shot.
(3) People who had never been vaccinated who got the disease in January and February.
They then checked to see who in these groups got the disease anyway in the 2.5 months starting in June. They “evaluated four outcomes: SARS-CoV-2 infection, symptomatic disease, COVID-19-related hospitalization and death.” The abstract never mentions the results for death outcomes.
Turns out that is because there were no deaths in any of the cohorts in their followup time period.
I posted the following comment to the article (which has to be approved by a moderator):
“I realize this was a study only on waning immunity, but its results will be misused because there is one important data set missing from the analysis: the number of deaths in each cohort during the January-February time frame due either to the disease that establishes immunity or due to complications from the vaccine itself. (I.e. Survivor bias in establishment of the cohorts.) You would then have a more complete set of data with which to establish risk/benefit ratios. Otherwise one could conclude it is better that everyone get the disease than get vaccinated. Also, the abstract fails to note a fact buried in the article: no one in the followup of any of the cohorts died.”
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930521/Florida-woman-diagnosed-COVID-comes-home-hospital-husband-dead-bedroom.html
Both over 50 and obese. Should have got the vaccine.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/doctors-announce-they-will-no-longer-treat-car-accident-victims-who-didnt-wear-their-seat-belt
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Both over 50 and obese. Should have got the vaccine.
Yep. Daily Mail runs Covid fear porn 24/7. When I opened the article and saw the pictures, it was pretty evident why they had these problems.
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Both over 50 and obese. Should have got the vaccine.
Yes, and I'm glad on this web board we can call it as we see it. Once I saw their picture I was like "Yeah, no shit he'd die of covid"
Indeed, these folks should have taken the vaccine.
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It’s easy to second guess
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https://twitter.com/PierreKory/status/1430733563725598724
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Got the first shot on Monday. A few hours ago my chest started hurting and starting to notice a bit of labored breathing. Going to be real pissed off if this is a side effect of the shot. Going to lay down for a few hours and see how i feel.
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Got the first shot on Monday. A few hours ago my chest started hurting and starting to notice a bit of labored breathing. Going to be real pissed off if this is a side effect of the shot. Going to lay down for a few hours and see how i feel.
Could be you are coincidentally coming down with covid today. The vaccine of course doesn’t take effect right away. Or you could be coincidentally having a garden variety myocardial infarct. Or you could be having myocarditis caused by the vaccine! Or you could be having the start of a dissecting aortic aneurysm. Or severe heartburn, a hemorrhaging ulcer! Or it’s psychosomatic. Feel better? ;D
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Nope. It's Biden. Has to be caused by Biden.
But seriously, I hope you're feeling better soon.
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Could be you are coincidentally coming down with covid today. The vaccine of course doesn’t take effect right away. Or you could be coincidentally having a garden variety myocardial infarct. Or you could be having myocarditis caused by the vaccine! Or you could be having the start of a dissecting aortic aneurysm. Or severe heartburn, a hemorrhaging ulcer! Or it’s psychosomatic. Feel better? ;D
I do have a small hiatal hernia, but that's a different pain when it hits. I also maybe slept 11 hours the past few days. Could just need a nap. It's also lower at the bottom of my ribcage, so it could be pericarditis.
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I do have a small hiatal hernia, but that's a different pain when it hits. I also maybe slept 11 hours the past few days. Could just need a nap. It's also lower at the bottom of my ribcage, so it could be pericarditis.
Costochondritis! I’ve had that. Seriously, I hope you feel better real soon. Is you arm sore at all where you got the shot?
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Costochondritis! I’ve had that. Seriously, I hope you feel better real soon. Is you arm sore at all where you got the shot?
It hurt for 2 days after the shot, but no arm pain now. Not happy if this doesn't go away. Ohio State plays tonight and am supposed to leave in the morning to go camping for the weekend.
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It hurt for 2 days after the shot, but no arm pain now. Not happy if this doesn't go away. Ohio State plays tonight and am supposed to leave in the morning to go camping for thrle weekend.
You aren’t going to like this, but new onset of chest pain plus “labored breathing”? You should go in and get it checked. Maybe not ER, but an urgent care if your own doctor can’t see you today.
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You aren’t going to like this, but new onset of chest pain plus “labored breathing”? You should go in and get it checked. Maybe not ER, but an urgent care if your own doctor can’t see you today.
I'm at ER now. Just to be safe.
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I'm at ER now. Just to be safe.
Good luck Josh.
If this is a move to get your wife to buy you a Navion, nicely played.
Seriously, be well.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9951117/Israel-worlds-Covid-hotspot-0-2-population-catching-yesterday.html
Israel has become the Covid capital of the world despite leading the charge on vaccines, in a clear warning sign that Britain, the US and other highly-immunised nations are still vulnerable to another wave.
Stats compiled by Oxford University-backed research team Our World in Data shows there were a record 1,892 Covid cases per million people in Israel on Wednesday — nearly 0.2 per cent of the entire population in a single day.
That was significantly higher than second worst-hit Mongolia, where the rate was 1,119 per million, and double the figures for Kosovo (980), Georgia (976) and Montenegro (909), which rounded out the top five.
The figure only looks at one day's worth of tests and Israel's high rate is thought to have been driven up by a huge testing push ahead of schools reopening there.
But the country has consistently reported some of the highest infection rates in the world since mid-August amid an unprecedented third wave, despite being one of the most vaccinated nations in the world.
For comparison, 522 people per million in the UK tested positive yesterday and the figure was closer to 595 in the US. It suggests protection gained from vaccines is starting to buckle in the face of the highly-transmissible Delta variant.
While Israel is seeing record case numbers in its fourth wave, the jabs are still protecting against severe illness with Covid deaths running at about half of the level of its second wave, even though fatalities have risen sharply in the last month.
Israel has been offering booster jabs to people over the age of 60 since July, and data suggests the scheme has helped to curb rising hospital admissions. The country has since expanded the top-up drive to everyone over 12 who has already had two doses.
With Israel acting as the 'canary in the mine', the UK has been urged to 'stop hanging around' and launch a mass booster jab programme to avoid a deadly wave this winter.
But the Government's advisory panel has yet to sign off on the plans — leaving the country lagging behind Israel and the US, which is also offering third injections to everyone given two doses.
Prominent SAGE member 'Professor Lockdown' Neil Ferguson today said he expected a surge in cases in winter but is unsure if it will be large enough to warrant rolling back restrictions. Other experts fear the return of schools in England this week and next will cause infections to explode.
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I'm at ER now. Just to be safe.
If you don't update us soon, I will assume you died (of COVID).
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9951117/Israel-worlds-Covid-hotspot-0-2-population-catching-yesterday.html
I want to know if those “cases” are actual cases or just positive test results.
I spoke with someone who’s college age daughter went back to school (Texas A&M I think) and they are requiring all students be tested for covid. She has had covid so should be immune. She tested positive but has no symptoms. They wouldn’t let her on campus and sent her back home. So she went and got tested again locally and it was negative. She called the school and told them and they told her to fax over her new test result, she is good to go. In other words, it was a false positive.
How much you want to bet that got thrown into the case count?
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If you don't update us soon, I will assume you died (of COVID).
Yes please update. The suspense is killing me.
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2 hours here and they've done an ekg (normal) and drew blood and covid test (negative). Waiting on chest xray.
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I want to know if those “cases” are actual cases or just positive test results.
I spoke with someone who’s college age daughter went back to school (Texas A&M I think) and they are requiring all students be tested for covid. She has had covid so should be immune. She tested positive but has no symptoms. They wouldn’t let her on campus and sent her back home. So she went and got tested again locally and it was negative. She called the school and told them and they told her to fax over her new test result, she is good to go. In other words, it was a false positive.
How much you want to bet that got thrown into the case count?
I know a couple of people that said they tested positive. But on further investigation, they were given antibody tests instead of antigen tests. If you had Covid previously, you will test positive on an antibody test. But I doubt a college would make that mistake.
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I know a couple of people that said they tested positive. But on further investigation, they were given antibody tests instead of antigen tests. If you had Covid previously, you will test positive on an antibody test. But I doubt a college would make that mistake.
Nope, no mistake. She also had the antibody test and was indeed positive for that, proving she is immune.
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2 hours here and they've done an ekg (normal) and drew blood and covid test (negative). Waiting on chest xray.
Normal ekg is good. Hope they find nothing, or something minor.
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Normal ekg is good. Hope they find nothing, or something minor.
Just out of curiosity, what is your approximate age?
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Just out of curiosity, what is your approximate age?
42
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42
Whew! I thought he was asking me!
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Whew! I thought he was asking me!
No. I would have asked you your bust size.
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Things got backed up due to needing to life flight someone out. Got my chest xray, so now waiting for those results. Hopefully soon. Kickoff in little more than 2 hours.
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Things got backed up due to needing to life flight someone out. Got my chest xray, so now waiting for those results. Hopefully soon. Kickoff in little more than 2 hours.
Hopefully soon, I know it’s miserable sitting in the ER. Glad you’re playing it safe though.
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Hopefully soon, I know it’s miserable sitting in the ER. Glad you’re playing it safe though.
Got unlucky this day. Not even enough rooms today for everybody.
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Things got backed up due to needing to life flight someone out. Got my chest xray, so now waiting for those results. Hopefully soon. Kickoff in little more than 2 hours.
Well, uh, you know.....been nice knowing ya! :o
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Good luck Josh.
If this is a move to get your wife to buy you a Navion, nicely played.
Seriously, be well.
Jeff Skiles has his 185 for sale on barnstormers. Now just to convince the wife to sell the house and live fulltime in our RV so I can afford it.
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Got unlucky this day. Not even enough rooms today for everybody.
Sheesh I hope you don’t get covid from the crowd there!
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Jeff Skiles has his 185 for sale on barnstormers. Now just to convince the wife to sell the house and live fulltime in our RV so I can afford it.
Maybe you life insurance will allow her to do that!
More seriously, I am trying to talk Leslie into doing the same thing. Sell the house while prices are high and we are still healthy and buy an RV to tour the country for about a year. When we return we could probably afford a nice ALF. The holdup is that she won't sell the Bonanza.
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Things got backed up due to needing to life flight someone out. Got my chest xray, so now waiting for those results. Hopefully soon. Kickoff in little more than 2 hours.
Don’t they know who you are? How rude of them.
Tell them you know a moderator on Pilot Spin.
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Jeff Skiles has his 185 for sale on barnstormers. Now just to convince the wife to sell the house and live fulltime in our RV so I can afford it.
You don’t want his 185. He’s a big-time lib and signed the Scott Walker recall petition.
http://iverifytherecall.com/Images/sw/sw068544.png
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Couldn't find anything wrong, but I had the worst ER doctor there. I do have a haital hernia that causes chest pain, but this was a different pain than that.
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You don’t want his 185. He’s a big-time lib and signed the Scott Walker recall petition.
http://iverifytherecall.com/Images/sw/sw068544.png
Good to know
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Couldn't find anything wrong, but I had the worst ER doctor there. I do have a haital hernia that causes chest pain, but this was a different pain than that.
Well now you don’t have to worry over the weekend. Maybe some Tylenol?
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I’m glad you found out nothing is wrong, and I’m sure they assiduously logged your case as one of the tens of thousands of “unknown cause” issues arising from the vaccine.
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I’m glad you found out nothing is wrong, and I’m sure they assiduously logged your case as one of the tens of thousands of “unknown cause” issues arising from the vaccine.
Possible. Good thing was my discharge took less than 5 minutes. My cousin was my nurse.
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Maybe you life insurance will allow her to do that!
More seriously, I am trying to talk Leslie into doing the same thing. Sell the house while prices are high and we are still healthy and buy an RV to tour the country for about a year. When we return we could probably afford a nice ALF. The holdup is that she won't sell the Bonanza.
RV prices are high, too. We sold our 2 year old RV a few months ago for $4000 more than we bought new. Our new RV we got in June has already risen in price from the dealer $3000.
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You don’t want his 185. He’s a big-time lib and signed the Scott Walker recall petition.
http://iverifytherecall.com/Images/sw/sw068544.png
You should save that airplane from that libtard.
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No. I would have asked you your bust size.
Same answer! what a coincidence.
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You don’t want his 185. He’s a big-time lib and signed the Scott Walker recall petition.
http://iverifytherecall.com/Images/sw/sw068544.png
Wow, how disappointing. Spent several hours with him when my EAA chapter hosted his tour stop.
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Possible. Good thing was my discharge took less than 5 minutes. My cousin was my nurse.
You got the bum's rush because you're not a moneymaker for the hospital. Fortunately.
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You got the bum's rush because you're not a moneymaker for the hospital. Fortunately.
Yep, as soon as the covid test came back negative and they weren’t going to get the dollars per case they needed to get you out of there.
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Same answer! what a coincidence.
It's the answer to everything in the Universe.
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Got unlucky this day. Not even enough rooms today for everybody.
At the risk of sounding like a liberal alarmist, why do you think that was?
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At the risk of sounding like a liberal alarmist, why do you think that was?
Easy. People tested (supposedly) positive for Covid. Each admission to the hospital gets funding from the fedgov. Let them get bad enough for a ventilator, and the funding increases dramatically.
The people I know and have spoke to that work in the hospitals have confirmed that many of those admitted shouldn't even be there, but because of the incentives of fedgov, there they are.
And it doesn't help that big tech and the MSM are fear mongering 24/7 to the point anyone with sniffles goes running to the emergency room.
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Easy. People tested (supposedly) positive for Covid. Each admission to the hospital gets funding from the fedgov. Let them get bad enough for a ventilator, and the funding increases dramatically.
The people I know and have spoke to that work in the hospitals have confirmed that many of those admitted shouldn't even be there, but because of the incentives of fedgov, there they are.
And it doesn't help that big tech and the MSM are fear mongering 24/7 to the point anyone with sniffles goes running to the emergency room.
I'm really worried about my next door neighbor. She's sick and getting worse. She texted me saying she's trying to decide whether to go to urgent care. I'm afraid if she goes they'll put her in the hospital, instead of giving her ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, which they should have several days ago anyway. It might be too late now according to the protocol Becky posted. She might be in the prednisone phase now.
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I'm really worried about my next door neighbor. She's sick and getting worse. She texted me saying she's trying to decide whether to go to urgent care. I'm afraid if she goes they'll put her in the hospital, instead of giving her ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, which they should have several days ago anyway. It might be too late now according to the protocol Becky posted. She might be in the prednisone phase now.
Probably.
Follow the money. Go back to the covid relief bills and look at the money granted to hospitals for patients and ventilator usage. The bill was written in such a manor that hospitals profit off of admitting people and doing very little, and then if they get worse, the money stream grows. So there's no incentive to use readily available medication that has been proven to work, just the opposite.
Go to the hospital sick with covid and your chances of survival go down.
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I'm really worried about my next door neighbor. She's sick and getting worse. She texted me saying she's trying to decide whether to go to urgent care. I'm afraid if she goes they'll put her in the hospital, instead of giving her ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, which they should have several days ago anyway. It might be too late now according to the protocol Becky posted. She might be in the prednisone phase now.
She very assiduously should watch her breathing and oxygen level. Worsening breathing with Covid can go south very fast. You can tell her what you know and offer to give her a tube of your ivermectin if she wants to use it. Must carefully calculate dosage:body weight. I’ve see some statements that later-stage ivermectin usage can help.
It might be pneumonia and she needs antibiotics fast.
But of course it’s dicey giving such advice on the internet or even to friends.
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Probably.
Follow the money. Go back to the covid relief bills and look at the money granted to hospitals for patients and ventilator usage. The bill was written in such a manor that hospitals profit off of admitting people and doing very little, and then if they get worse, the money stream grows. So there's no incentive to use readily available medication that has been proven to work, just the opposite.
Go to the hospital sick with covid and your chances of survival go down.
Like everything the government does. They react to A. But discount the fact that their reaction causes A to change.
FAA medical certification scrutiny causes pilots to not go get treated for stuff.
Giving welfare money to mothers that don’t have a man in the home causes more mothers to not have a man in the home.
Taxing business more causes business to leave your jurisdiction and therefore fewer businesses to tax.
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She very assiduously should watch her breathing and oxygen level. Worsening breathing with Covid can go south very fast. You can tell her what you know and offer to give her a tube of your ivermectin if she wants to use it. Must carefully calculate dosage:body weight. I’ve see some statements that later-stage ivermectin usage can help.
It might be pneumonia and she needs antibiotics fast.
But of course it’s dicey giving such advice on the internet or even to friends.
Yeah she knows about all this stuff and I don’t want to push anything on her but if she asks I will give it to her (or her husband can go buy it at the local Tractor Supply). Funny thing is she hasn’t yet tested positive. It’s possible she just has regular flu.
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Yeah she knows about all this stuff and I don’t want to push anything on her but if she asks I will give it to her (or her husband can go buy it at the local Tractor Supply). Funny thing is she hasn’t yet tested positive. It’s possible she just has regular flu.
I sure hope so. Good sign that she's not positive. And +1 on Becky's advice to watch her breathing and O2 levels. Best of luck to you and to your neighbor.
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It's the answer to everything in the Universe.
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Easy. People tested (supposedly) positive for Covid. Each admission to the hospital gets funding from the fedgov. Let them get bad enough for a ventilator, and the funding increases dramatically.
The people I know and have spoke to that work in the hospitals have confirmed that many of those admitted shouldn't even be there, but because of the incentives of fedgov, there they are.
And it doesn't help that big tech and the MSM are fear mongering 24/7 to the point anyone with sniffles goes running to the emergency room.
And how many of those positives were vaccinated vs unvaccinated?
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I'm really worried about my next door neighbor. She's sick and getting worse. She texted me saying she's trying to decide whether to go to urgent care. I'm afraid if she goes they'll put her in the hospital, instead of giving her ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, which they should have several days ago anyway. It might be too late now according to the protocol Becky posted. She might be in the prednisone phase now.
Regadless of whether they give her Ivermectin or Hydrxychloroquine or not, she needs to go to the hospital. My brother just got out of the hospital. He was on Pred, Zith and zinc, and IV fluids instead of I or H, but he recovered. He resisted going to the hospital until he almost couldn't stand up or breath. I believe if he stayed home any longer he would have died.
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That has got to be a joke. No one could be that monstrously insensitive. Oh wait …
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Regadless of whether they give her Ivermectin or Hydrxychloroquine or not, she needs to go to the hospital. My brother just got out of the hospital. He was on Pred, Zith and zinc, and IV fluids instead of I or H, but he recovered. He resisted going to the hospital until he almost couldn't stand up or breath. I believe if he stayed home any longer he would have died.
What does it say about the official medical arm of the cabal (let’s just call it what it is) that people are afraid to go to the hospital in AMERICA because they see it as a death sentence?
“If this were a true pandemic, people would be killing each other to get the vaccine, not giving up their livelihoods to avoid it.”
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My research assistant has the Covid. Got vaccinated in February. Got tested, negative. Doctor said bad cold. Felt worse, got tested, positive. Doctor said that they are having a lot of trouble with false negatives in vaccinated people. Tired, coughing, slight fever, but expects to be through it by next week. Interesting that they are having a lot of trouble with false negatives.
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The wonky testing is keeping fear and uncertainty alive.
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That has got to be a joke. No one could be that monstrously insensitive. Oh wait …
He was punking them.
It was Highland Park, so it could have gone either way.
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And how many of those positives were vaccinated vs unvaccinated?
From what I heard? Over half were vaccinated.
The vaccine narrative is failing.
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That has got to be a joke. No one could be that monstrously insensitive. Oh wait …
That has to be a joke. If not, I just saw the most colossally demented freak show I’ve ever seen.
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He was punking them.
It was Highland Park, so it could have gone either way.
Ok, that’s fucking funny as hell. Lol
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ROTFLMAO! “We could go into the gay community and do mayor Johnson’s free Johnson and Johnson because the gay community would like to double entendre.” Hahahahaha! He sounds so genuine.
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I'm still not convinced I didn't have a rection to the shot. Still feel a little tightness in the chest. From what I've been reading, milder cases of Pericarditis and Myocarditis don't always show on a chest x-ray. A few years back an x-ray missed broken vertebrae in my back, and it wasn't until a week later my primary dr called me and said it took the radiologist to review it and saw the break. And since our hospital sucks, I can see them missing it.
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I'm still not convinced I didn't have a rection to the shot. Still feel a little tightness in the chest. From what I've been reading, milder cases of Pericarditis and Myocarditis don't always show on a chest x-ray. A few years back an x-ray missed broken vertebrae in my back, and it wasn't until a week later my primary dr called me and said it took the radiologist to review it and saw the break. And since our hospital sucks, I can see them missing it.
Very plausible. Imaging isn’t an exact science, for that matter neither is pathology. They biopsied a bump on my dad’s head and the pathology report came back saying it was cancer. A few weeks later he got a revised report saying, uh, we went back and looked at this again and come to think of it, it looks more like [long Latin name for some benign growth], so we don’t think it’s cancer after all. Sorry ‘bout that!
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#MeToo. Routine scan for other things showed a blocked portal vein!! I’m gonna die!!!! Oops, no, my GP doubted the images and consulted with other docs, and they all decided it was an “artifact,” a questionable image.
Another time there was a tumor on my kidney! I’m gonna die!!! Oops, it was a lump of fat.
So I’m still here to annoy you all.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/04/irony-biden-administration-being-called-out-by-health-officials-for-political-booster-shots-that-do-not-follow-science/
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/denmark-to-lift-all-remaining-covid-restrictions-on-10-september
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(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5597.0;attach=2138;image)
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Do how much longer before they start offering a vaccine for the effects of the first vaccine? Or something like that??
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/
Well those scientists are obviously racist conspiracy theorists. We can’t be calling for studies to confirm how effective a cheap abundant drug like ivermectin is against covid. We must suppress all talk of an early effective treatment! People must be forced to either get vaccinated or die of covid in the hospital, no other option should be permitted.
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Studies have already been done.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/
Conclusion - there is weak evidence that it does anything, but it’s well tolerated and had few side effects, so there appears to be no harm.
So of course, that means they’ll jump right on it since that’s essentially the same thing Fauci said about masks.
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Studies have already been done.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/
Conclusion - there is weak evidence that it does anything, but it’s well tolerated and had few side effects, so there appears to be no harm.
So of course, that means they’ll jump right on it since that’s essentially the same thing Fauci said about masks.
Not sure what you mean by weak evidence that it does anything. That article seems to be saying there is strong evidence that it is a good treatment as long as it’s used early.
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Studies have already been done.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/
Conclusion - there is weak evidence that it does anything, but it’s well tolerated and had few side effects, so there appears to be no harm.
So of course, that means they’ll jump right on it since that’s essentially the same thing Fauci said about masks.
Agree with Rush. I’m unable to reconcile your summary with the conclusion in the abstract, particularly their use of “significant impact”:
“Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”
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The section under therapeutic advances gives lots of examples saying it’s not certain. The conclusion uses words like could and suggests and “are possible”, which denote uncertainty.
There should be more studies since the therapy hasn’t been vetted. Or, are you guys in favor of large scale testing of drugs on the population now? Isn’t that your complaint about the vaccines? They aren’t proven, so we should be testing them out in controlled circumstances?
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The section under therapeutic advances gives lots of examples saying it’s not certain. The conclusion uses words like could and suggests and “are possible”, which denote uncertainty.
There should be more studies since the therapy hasn’t been vetted. Or, are you guys in favor of large scale testing of drugs on the population now? Isn’t that your complaint about the vaccines? They aren’t proven, so we should be testing them out in controlled circumstances?
You said it has limited side effects, so what's the downside? However, the side effects of the various vaccines are coming out but most still unknown.
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The section under therapeutic advances gives lots of examples saying it’s not certain. The conclusion uses words like could and suggests and “are possible”, which denote uncertainty.
There should be more studies since the therapy hasn’t been vetted. Or, are you guys in favor of large scale testing of drugs on the population now? Isn’t that your complaint about the vaccines? They aren’t proven, so we should be testing them out in controlled circumstances?
Apples and oranges! Ivermectin has already been tested large scale! Just not for this particular disease. The vaccine had never been tested on humans before the rushed initial mass testing just last year. No history of safe use. Ivermectin has been widely used for decades.
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Apples and oranges! Ivermectin has already been tested large scale! Just not for this particular disease. The vaccine had never been tested on humans before the rushed initial mass testing just last year. No history of safe use. Ivermectin has been widely used for decades.
Exactly. Why even FedGov is giving Ivermectin to the Afghan refugees they are importing.
And our pals at Pfizer are developing an oral medication for Covid, that shares the exact same makeup as, wait for it.......Ivermectin.
Ivermectin is cheap and has been in wide scale use for decades with little to no side effects. Big Pharma can't make money off of something like that (Also HCQ), thus why they were so opposed.
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Exactly. Why even FedGov is giving Ivermectin to the Afghan refugees they are importing.
And our pals at Pfizer are developing an oral medication for Covid, that shares the exact same makeup as, wait for it.......Ivermectin.
Ivermectin is cheap and has been in wide scale use for decades with little to no side effects. Big Pharma can't make money off of something like that (Also HCQ), thus why they were so opposed.
Ah I see. They need to tweak the chemical composition of ivermectin just enough to be able to patent it and then get it approved for use against covid by the FDA which of course is cooperating by not approving ivermectin for covid.
They do this all the time.
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Exactly. Why even FedGov is giving Ivermectin to the Afghan refugees they are importing.
Probably to get rid of the sand worms.
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Probably to get rid of the sand worms.
But Ivermectin is for horses only.............
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But Ivermectin is for horses only.............
Unless it's found to be profitable. Then everyone will be REQUIRED to take it twice a day forever.
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Unless it's found to be profitable. Then everyone will be REQUIRED to take it twice a day forever.
But Pfizer is developing their own version. And that will be required twice a day for LIFE...........at a 1000% markup. :o
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But Pfizer is developing their own version. And that will be required twice a day for LIFE...........at a 1000% markup. :o
Yeah, I saw that in the other thread. I think you're exactly right. Modify it just enough to be patentable, and do everything possible to discount and discredit the original medicine. Follow the money indeed.
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Exactly. Why even FedGov is giving Ivermectin to the Afghan refugees they are importing.
Interesting. Do you by chance have a link that I can use to share with my in-laws?
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Interesting. Do you by chance have a link that I can use to share with my in-laws?
https://drrichswier.com/2021/09/05/cdc-endorses-use-of-ivermectin-for-afghan-refugees/
https://thetruedefender.com/ivermectin-is-given-to-afghan-refugees-according-to-the-cdc-website/
https://joemiller.us/2021/09/cdc-endorsed-use-of-ivermectin-for-afghan-refugees/
https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-cdc-endorsed-use-of-ivermectin-for-afghan-refugees
https://independentside.com/cdc-website-reveals-afghan-refugees-given-ivermectin/
Plenty more on this using a duckduckgo search https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ivermectin+given+to+afghan+refugees&t=brave&ia=web
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Plenty more on this using a duckduckgo search https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ivermectin+given+to+afghan+refugees&t=brave&ia=web
I admit I should have looked it up myself. But I'm still glad I asked because DDG came up with this:
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-afghanistan-refugees-idUSL1N2Q605Q
Of course though, it is Reuters, which is just as bad as any of the MSM, but they do have an alternate theory, which my in-laws would have thrown back in my face>
Outrage has spread online that Afghan refugees entering the United States will receive the drug ivermectin although it does not have U.S. approval as a COVID-19 treatment. However, the posts miss the vital context that refugees are given ivermectin for infections unrelated to the novel coronavirus.[/quote
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I admit I should have looked it up myself. But I'm still glad I asked because DDG came up with this:
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-afghanistan-refugees-idUSL1N2Q605Q
Of course though, it is Reuters, which is just as bad as any of the MSM, but they do have an alternate theory, which my in-laws would have thrown back in my face>
Outrage has spread online that Afghan refugees entering the United States will receive the drug ivermectin although it does not have U.S. approval as a COVID-19 treatment. However, the posts miss the vital context that refugees are given ivermectin for infections unrelated to the novel coronavirus.
" But...but...but.... Ivermectin is a HORSE drug.......and...and ...It's not safe for humans!!!!"
Reuters and other fake news sites gloss over, if not absolutely deny that Ivermectin has had a lot of success in treating Covid. It's so successful that Pfizer is coming out with their own version strictly for covid.
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" But...but...but.... Ivermectin is a HORSE drug.......and...and ...It's not safe for humans!!!!"
Reuters and other fake news sites gloss over, if not absolutely deny that Ivermectin has had a lot of success in treating Covid. It's so successful that Pfizer is coming out with their own version strictly for covid.
All that may be true, and I believe it is,
but taking things so far out of context is a game liberals play, and because of that, I believe very little of what they say. If "our side" starts doing it to, then we lose credibility.
Ivermectin is approved for certain types of parasites. People from shit-hole countries have all kinds of parasites. Giving them Ivermectin might make sense. Claiming that it was given for Covid does not make sense.
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Oh for fuck’s sake.
1) Ivermectin can work, and has worked for many people, to treat Covid. Obviously, vaccine efficacy is waning and many people resist the idea of boosters ad infinitum.
2) Because of 1) above, people ask their doctors for Rx ivermectin in case they get Covid.
3) Some doctors will prescribe it and some won’t. Even if you get an Rx, some pharmacies won’t fill it. Mine stopped filling it because the FDA told them to stop. You know, the FDA that we trust as much as we do the DOJ or FBI.
4) Because of 3) above, people decide to have the feed store ivermectin on hand.
Now I ask you:
If doctors would prescribe and pharmacies would fill prescriptions for ivermectin, would people have go to the feed store at all?
No. Unless they have livestock.
Ideally, we would do as India did and give everyone a Covid Pak … it contains an antibiotic (to prevent pneumonia) and two other medications, one of which is ivermectin.
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All that may be true, and I believe it is,
but taking things so far out of context is a game liberals play, and because of that, I believe very little of what they say. If "our side" starts doing it to, then we lose credibility.
Ivermectin is approved for certain types of parasites. People from shit-hole countries have all kinds of parasites. Giving them Ivermectin might make sense. Claiming that it was given for Covid does not make sense.
No one claimed it was given to the afghans for Covid. What is being put out is the government demonizing ivermectin as “unsafe” while actively giving it out to the Afghans. More hypocrisy.
And yes, Ivermectin works incredibly well to treat Covid. This is why Pfizer is coming out with their version of ivermectin.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-highly-effective-covid-treatment-joe-biden-wont-tell-you-about
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Oh for fuck’s sake.
1) Ivermectin can work, and has worked for many people, to treat Covid. Obviously, vaccine efficacy is waning and many people resist the idea of boosters ad infinitum.
2) Because of 1) above, people ask their doctors for Rx ivermectin in case they get Covid.
3) Some doctors will prescribe it and some won’t. Even if you get an Rx, some pharmacies won’t fill it. Mine stopped filling it because the FDA told them to stop. You know, the FDA that we trust as much as we do the DOJ or FBI.
4) Because of 3) above, people decide to have the feed store ivermectin on hand.
Now I ask you:
If doctors would prescribe and pharmacies would fill prescriptions for ivermectin, would people have go to the feed store at all?
No. Unless they have livestock.
Ideally, we would do as India did and give everyone a Covid Pak … it contains an antibiotic (to prevent pneumonia) and two other medications, one of which is ivermectin.
I was not denigrating Ivermectin. So you can take your "for fucks sake" and eat it.
My point was that screaming and pointing fingers at FEDGOV for giving Ivermectin to Afghan refugees was not a tacit admission by the government of Ivermection as a treatment for COVID.. In spite of Luci saying that nobody said it was about Covid, that was the implication. If that was the case, then the whole accusation means nothing. In fact, it means less than nothing. It actually hurts the case FOR Ivermectin when the context is a lie.
Ivermectin is approved for human use for parasites. There is no inconsistency in giving it to refugees from a parasite ridden region. Those people don't even know what toilet paper is. They wipe their ass with their hands. I hope we give them a horses dose of dewormer.
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My point was that screaming and pointing fingers at FEDGOV for giving Ivermectin to Afghan refugees was not a tacit admission by the government of Ivermection as a treatment for COVID.. In spite of Luci saying that nobody said it was about Covid, that was the implication.
BULLSHIT! That's what YOU read into it.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/time-hold-government-accountable-covid-lies/
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Was looking today, Florida is on the back side of the curve now. Here in Georgia it looks like we are just starting the down slide. Spent the weekend in Darlington, SC, SC is still on the upswing. Next week we head to Florida again for a few days in Jacksonville.
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Was looking today, Florida is on the back side of the curve now. Here in Georgia it looks like we are just starting the down slide. Spent the weekend in Darlington, SC, SC is still on the upswing. Next week we head to Florida again for a few days in Jacksonville.
Is this a Number of Cases curve or mortality rate? If it's Number of Cases, it's meaningless. Even mortality rate is suspect as they count just about everything. Go out. Enjoy life. No masks!
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Is this a Number of Cases curve or mortality rate? If it's Number of Cases, it's meaningless. Even mortality rate is suspect as they count just about everything. Go out. Enjoy life. No masks!
You can look at either....https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases
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You can look at either....https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases
Thanks. However, I don't believe their data due to how they count deaths and also the unreliability of testing for Covid WRT number of cases, (false positives, false negatives) then there are the asymptomatic, etc.
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Gee, wouldya look here.............Seems Pope Tony has been caught in more lies, again.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-scientist-on-new-report-about-research-in-chinese-labs-its-clear-fauci-was-untruthful?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter
A report published on Monday alleges that the U.S. government funded highly controversial gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and the chief medical advisor to Democrat President Joe Biden, has denied that the National Institute of Health [NIH] has ever funded gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. During a heated exchange with Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) back in May, Fauci claimed that the “[National Institute of Health] has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”
This week, The Intercept reported that 900 new pages of previously undisclosed information from the NIH, which The Intercept obtained through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit, that the EcoHealth Alliance used federal grant money to fund dangerous bat coronavirus research in the Chinese labs. The Intercept reported:
The bat coronavirus grant provided the EcoHealth Alliance with a total of $3.1 million, including $599,000 that the Wuhan Institute of Virology used in part to identify and alter bat coronaviruses likely to infect humans. Even before the pandemic, many scientists were concerned about the potential dangers associated with such experiments. The grant proposal acknowledges some of those dangers: “Fieldwork involves the highest risk of exposure to SARS or other CoVs, while working in caves with high bat density overhead and the potential for fecal dust to be inhaled.”
Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University, reviewed the material and told The Intercept that the “viruses they constructed were tested for their ability to infect mice that were engineered to display human type receptors on their cell.”
Ebright also noted that the documents showed that the scientists were not only conducting the experiments with SARS-related coronavirus, but also MERS-related coronaviruses.
“The materials show that the 2014 and 2019 NIH grants to EcoHealth with subcontracts to WIV funded gain-of-function research as defined in federal policies in effect in 2014-2017 and potential pandemic pathogen enhancement as defined in federal policies in effect in 2017-present,” Ebright added on Twitter. “The materials confirm the grants supported the construction — in Wuhan — of novel chimeric SARS-related coronaviruses that combined a spike gene from one coronavirus with genetic information from another coronavirus, and confirmed the resulting viruses could infect human cells.”
“The materials reveal that the resulting novel, laboratory-generated SARS-related coronaviruses also could infect mice engineered to display human receptors on cells (‘humanized mice’),” he continued. “The materials further reveal for the first time that one of the resulting novel, laboratory-generated SARS-related coronaviruses — one not been previously disclosed publicly — was more pathogenic to humanized mice than the starting virus from which it was constructed and thus not only was reasonably anticipated to exhibit enhanced pathogenicity, but, indeed, was *demonstrated* to exhibit enhanced pathogenicity.”
Ebright concluded by accusing Fauci and NIH Director, Francis Collins, of being “untruthful” in their previous remarks on the matter.
“The documents make it clear that assertions by the NIH Director, Francis Collins, and the NIAID Director, Anthony Fauci, that the NIH did not support gain-of-function research or potential pandemic pathogen enhancement at WIV are untruthful,” he wrote.
Paul previously referred Fauci to the U.S. Department of Justice for criminal prosecution.
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Ivermectin doesn't do squat against COVID. It is killer of intestinal parasites, not an antiviral. I already put up the highly cited peer-reviewed research that debunked it.
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Ivermectin doesn't do squat against COVID. It is killer of intestinal parasites, not an antiviral. I already put up the highly cited peer-reviewed research that debunked it.
You start drinking early in the morning huh?
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Ivermectin doesn't do squat against COVID. It is killer of intestinal parasites, not an antiviral. I already put up the highly cited peer-reviewed research that debunked it.
I went and found the study you posted and here is a quote directly from it:
We included studies investigating the effect of pharmacological management of patients hospitalized for COVID-19 management. Mild patients who do not require hospitalization or have self-limiting disease courses were not eligible for our NMA (Network Meta-Analysis)
They excluded the group it DOES work in!
That’s like doing a study to see if the polio vaccine works but only including people already in an iron lung.
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND IVERMECTIN ONLY WORK IF YOU GIVE THEM EARLY.
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I went and found the study you posted and here is a quote directly from it:
They excluded the group it DOES work in!
That’s like doing a study to see if the polio vaccine works but only including people already in an iron lung.
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND IVERMECTIN ONLY WORK IF YOU GIVE THEM EARLY.
You might as well try to explain this to your dog....he'll understand, unlike the perfesser.
The perfesser is only interested in "the science"......that is democrat communist approved
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Many of the studies showing their efficacy aren’t even on people diagnosed with covid. In other words, it works as a preventative. If you have a large population, half gets ivermectin for parasites and the other half doesn’t, control for exposure opportunity, and the group being treated ends up getting covid significantly less than the untreated group, then that is evidence ivermectin can prevent getting it in the first place. This is EXACTLY what they are finding in third world countries with a lot of parasites being treated.
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I went and found the study you posted and here is a quote directly from it:
They excluded the group it DOES work in!
That’s like doing a study to see if the polio vaccine works but only including people already in an iron lung.
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE AND IVERMECTIN ONLY WORK IF YOU GIVE THEM EARLY.
But, but it was PEER REVIEWED. What a crock of Leftist BS once again from the professor. ::)
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Many of the studies showing their efficacy aren’t even on people diagnosed with covid. In other words, it works as a preventative. If you have a large population, half gets ivermectin for parasites and the other half doesn’t, control for exposure opportunity, and the group being treated ends up getting covid significantly less than the untreated group, then that is evidence ivermectin can prevent getting it in the first place. This is EXACTLY what they are finding in third world countries with a lot of parasites being treated.
I'm old enough to remember when the MSM was salivating at the "delta variant" apocalypse coming to India, and they were predicting millions of deaths, yet strangely that disappeared.
Seems those Indians were routinely using Ivermectin over the counter. ::)
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Using your reasoning I could assume fluorescein cured the Chalazion I suffered last week.
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Using your reasoning I could assume fluorescein cured the Chalazion I suffered last week.
How do you know it didn't?
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How do you know it didn't?
I'll answer that. Because you look at a thousand people with chalazion that had fluorescein put in their eye and a thousand with chalazion that did not have fluorescein put in their eye and you count how many were cured in each group and compare. If they were about the same rate, you conclude fluorescein doesn't cure chalazion.
In the case of ivermectin, there is a big statistical difference between the counts. The most likely conclusion is ivermectin prevents covid.
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How do you know it didn't?
Because it's just a fluorescent molecule the physician put in my eye so he could see the chalazion in the first place. If any of you knew what a chalazion is you'd know that fluorescein would have no more effect on it than eyedrops.
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Because it's just a fluorescent molecule the physician put in my eye so he could see the chalazion in the first place. If any of you knew what a chalazion is you'd know that fluorescein would have no more effect on it than eyedrops.
I knew what it was! ;D
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I knew what it was! ;D
I know what it is too. We treated it in cats. I just didn't see the point in responding to a post who's only purpose was to make him look smart. I don't want to elevate him past me on the acknowledged intelligence ladder. I'd hate being on the bottom again.
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I know what it is too. We treated it in cats. I just didn't see the point in responding to a post who's only purpose was to make him look smart. I don't want to elevate him past me on the acknowledged intelligence ladder. I'd hate being on the bottom again.
That sort of thing doesn’t bother me. I grew up with it. My dad and my uncle would get into vocabulary duels to see who could out intellectualize the other. Liberal amounts of alcohol were involved.
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That sort of thing doesn’t bother me. I grew up with it. My dad and my uncle would get into vocabulary duels to see who could out intellectualize the other. Liberal amounts of alcohol were involved.
Now THAT, I have no problem with.
(as I pour another glass of Macallan).
At least I wait till evening to start.
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/georgia-bulldogs-experiencing-massive-covid-spike-more-than-90-of-team-is-vaccinated/
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/georgia-bulldogs-experiencing-massive-covid-spike-more-than-90-of-team-is-vaccinated/
"massive spike"
wow - "three of four guys" and a couple of staff members.
Yessiree, that's definitely the epitome of "massive"
Let's do the math... how many guys on the team? it's 132 players. ~90% vaccinated. so that's about 119 vaccinated players and about 13 unvaccinated.
If every one of those vaccinated players were exposed to covid-19, you'd expect 5 or 6 to contract covid-19 (the vaccine is "only" about 95% effective).
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/georgia-bulldogs-experiencing-massive-covid-spike-more-than-90-of-team-is-vaccinated/
Are they “out with covid” because they’re actually sick? Or because they tested positive because they are all being regularly tested every few days? So they’re sent home “with covid” when 1. There are false positives, 2. There are cases where you do have the virus but you have no symptoms. If you test everyone all the time you will have positive results and if the rule is a positive test means you’re out for two weeks then you’ll have “cases” to report.
But without the information about whether these people are actually sick, it’s meaningless. And it’s not news. We all know the vaccine doesn’t protect us from getting the virus, but it does protect us from getting seriously sick. This article is strongly implying that it doesn’t. It’s just more fear porn.
More useful would be whether any of these cases were hospitalized or died. If so, then we should be worried that the vaccine doesn’t protect us against the delta variant.
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Are they “out with covid” because they’re actually sick? Or because they tested positive because they are all being regularly tested every few days? So they’re sent home “with covid” when 1. There are false positives, 2. There are cases where you do have the virus but you have no symptoms. If you test everyone all the time you will have positive results and if the rule is a positive test means you’re out for two weeks then you’ll have “cases” to report.
But without the information about whether these people are actually sick, it’s meaningless. And it’s not news. We all know the vaccine doesn’t protect us from getting the virus, but it does protect us from getting seriously sick. This article is strongly implying that it doesn’t. It’s just more fear porn.
More useful would be whether any of these cases were hospitalized or died. If so, then we should be worried that the vaccine doesn’t protect us against the delta variant.
Since we have no standard on information of this "pandemic", each and every source can twist and contort to get the desired result.
Cases are meaningless, that has been well established. But "cases" sounds scary, and makes the boogeyman seem real.
There's also a real difference from dying strictly from Covid (rare) to dying with Covid (more common). But the narrative must be continued, because Biden is fucking up everything daily and the scamdemic is all the DCP has at this point to divert attention.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/cdc-changes-definition-vaccine-vindicates-alex-berenson/
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/cdc-changes-definition-vaccine-vindicates-alex-berenson/
My understanding of vaccines has always been that it causes the body to produce antibodies due to the introduction of a "low dose" of the target disease. So are they spinning or just "correcting" their original bullshit?
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My understanding of vaccines has always been that it causes the body to produce antibodies due to the introduction of a "low dose" of the target disease. So are they spinning or just "correcting" their original bullshit?
Spinning. Also, now the CDC doesn't consider anyone as "vaccinated" within the first 14 days of getting the shot.
The goalpost is in constant motion.
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https://www.foxnews.com/health/covid-19-hospitalizations-nonvaccinated
It would be nice if my first reaction to this isn't "that's propaganda"...
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Spinning. Also, now the CDC doesn't consider anyone as "vaccinated" within the first 14 days of getting the shot.
The goalpost is in constant motion.
Well I would intuitively expect that it takes time for the antibodies (or in this case, gene therapy, to build up to a useful point.
The goalpost has been on wheels since Day One.
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Well I would intuitively expect that it takes time for the antibodies (or in this case, gene therapy, to build up to a useful point.
The goalpost has been on wheels since Day One.
Yep, the number of days are manipulated depending upon the narrative.
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https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/08/the-top-reason-i-hate-masks-is-they-force-me-to-live-by-lies/
The Top Reason I Hate Masks Is They Force Me To Live By Lies
Being forced to wear a mask is being forced to communicate that I support treating COVID-19 as if it should take priority over everything else in life. That's not only false, but evil.
Throughout the last year, I’ve read a lot of masking arguments but none that broached my top objection: mask mandates force me to communicate what I believe are very dangerous lies.
Even if masks ultimately do provide some small reduction in coronavirus spread without imposing additional harms, a contentious claim, to me that is almost beside the point. The point is the security theater, which assumes that drastic government micromanagement of our lives and indefinite curtailment of our liberties are not only ever acceptable but in fact the moral thing to do.
I’m not talking about high-risk situations like nursing homes or hospitals or the homes of cancer patients, where I am willing to mask and sanitize and so forth for the chance it may indeed protect highly vulnerable people. I’m talking about in normal life, in public settings. Despite what people have been shanghaied into assuming, these are low-risk environments and should be treated as such.
Far above and beyond any health considerations, masking is a symbol. It is a talisman, a ritual, a communication of premises that I utterly reject. Being forced to wear a mask to me is the equivalent of being forced to wear a T-shirt that supports legalized abortion, which I believe is mass murder.
Wearing a mask communicates that I accept the premise that everyone should wear a mask, even if vaccinated, even if possessing natural antibodies, even if a child to whom the flu is more dangerous, even if an adult who believes living with risk is part of human life and that attempting to eliminate risk is more dangerous than accepting it. It communicates that the entire world should look like a hospital, a fearful and sad place where people are desperately sick, even if they don’t know it.
It communicates that I believe harassing the living hell out of Americans is a justified response to a disease with a 99.5 percent survival rate or better for those younger than 65. It communicates that it is reasonable to worship health as an idol, and to control citizens with fear. Well, I simply don’t believe any of that, and I’m not going to be forced to communicate that I do.
Yes, I could be wrong both about abortion, masking, and every other thing I believe. But it used to be considered an American thing for others to “defend to the death” my right to express what I believe, even by those who vehemently disagree with the content of my beliefs and speech.
Now I’m told by people who identify even as libertarians that I do not have the right to my own opinion about the post-totalitarian COVID regime, or that if I may hold my opinion privately I certainly cannot live in accord with my beliefs. Clearly, America has fundamentally changed. I oppose that fundamental transformation, too.
I’ve recently been reading and rereading communist dissident Vaclav Havel’s famous essay, “The Power of the Powerless,” in an attempt to make more sense out of how to live in our time. I find myself applying his insights to multiple current issues, including this one.
Havel famously uses the example of a greengrocer putting the Marxist slogan “Workers of the world unite!” in his shop window to analyze the power dynamics in what he calls a “post-totalitarian” society. It was a little startling to me how closely his observations of living in a Communist Bloc country paralleled my daily experiences under the COVID regime.
Havel makes it clear that whether the grocer believes the slogan is immaterial. Probably, he says, the man does not. But he conforms to the demands made of him, even when they contradict reality and good sense, because if he doesn’t he will be punished.
In posting signs of affirmation of their regime, “The greengrocer and the office worker have both adapted to the conditions in which they live, but in doing so, they help to create those conditions,” Havel writes. “…Quite simply, each helps the other to be obedient. Both are objects in a system of control, but at the same time they are its subjects as well. They are both victims of the system and its instruments.”
As with the masks, whether “Workers of the world unite!” is true is beside the point. The point is signaling compliance out of fear, not an honest discussion of the evidence, or persuasion, or any mechanism respecting the informed and open consent of the governed.
“The greengrocer had to put the slogan in his window, therefore, not in the hope that someone might read it or be persuaded by it, but to contribute, along with thousands of other slogans, to the panorama that everyone is very much aware of,” notes Havel. “This panorama, of course, has a subliminal meaning as well: it reminds people where they are living and what is expected of them. It tells them what everyone else is doing, and indicates to them what they must do as well, if they don’t want to be excluded, to fall into isolation, alienate themselves from society, break the rules of the game, and risk the loss of their peace and tranquility and security.”
This is what mask mandates achieve — a false signal that dissenters don’t exist, that everyone buys into the indefinite suspension of our rights “because COVID,” no matter how much it harms people, nor how weak its alleged rationales. This was confirmed for me when my governor finally let his mask mandate lapse. Suddenly, after I had been for months nearly the only person I ever saw without a mask, now almost nobody wore them.
And it wasn’t because everyone was vaccinated, as government statistics show the majority are not. So it was clear that the vast majority of my fellow citizens were obeying the mandate simply because it was a mandate, not because they fully supported it. Yet their compliance communicated the falsehood that the COVID regime had mass support. And that is exactly the point.
Citizens’ assistance to a lying and oppressive regime, Havel says, changes those who corrupt themselves in this way: “they may learn to be comfortable with their involvement, to identify with it as though it were something natural and inevitable and, ultimately, so they may — with no external urging — come to treat any non-involvement as an abnormality, as arrogance, as an attack on themselves, as a form of dropping out of society.”
In other words, falsifying reality brings about more of that falsified reality. It’s the same dynamic as gang initiations requiring initiates to commit crimes. Once people have compromised themselves, they are more likely to identify with their compromise, because it’s embarrassing to admit you were wrong. So instead, people double down. They heap onto their initial cowardice the additional cowardice of refusing to admit they could have been wrong.
This also helps account for the viciousness with which people often treat dissenters. Dissenters are living proof that everyone does not have to comply, that it is possible to live in the truth. This shames those who have chosen temporary comfort over noble sacrifice.
The greengrocer who does not display the sign, Havel says, is soundly punished by his peers precisely because “He has shown everyone that it is possible to live within the truth. Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is universal. The principle must embrace and permeate everything. There are no terms whatsoever on which it can coexist with living within the truth, and therefore everyone who steps out of line denies it in principle and threatens it in its entirety.”
The crumbling of the Soviet Union began when people “came to realize that not standing up for the freedom of others, regardless of how remote their means of creativity or their attitude to life, meant surrendering one’s own freedom,” Havel writes. There came a point when more people realized that the price of staying silent, of accepting lies, was too much.
Do we need an Afghanistan-level catastrophe for more Americans to realize their acceptance of lockdowns, which mask-wearing signals, is just as deadly? Statists are more than happy to oblige. But the longer we take to wake up, the worse the suffering must be.
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Spinning. Also, now the CDC doesn't consider anyone as "vaccinated" within the first 14 days of getting the shot.
The goalpost is in constant motion.
There is no goalpost.
It's like the 14 days to flatten the curve.
The communist democrats have no intention of ever ceding liberty back to us peons.
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https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2021/09/learn-to-live-with-covid.html
Learn to live with covid
On April 27, 2020, the Portland Press-Herald reported, "Rye [New Hampshire] police are advising surfers to catch a wave elsewhere or face the prospective of a fine.
"Rye Police Chief Kevin Walsh said his officers are weary of chasing off surfers in groups as large as 10 who are ignoring beach closures.
"Many are parking in church lots and on private property, so Walsh is seeking permission from these property owners to ticket and tow the vehicles. Police may also start issuing tickets to surfers for trespassing on the beach."
Chief Walsh's efforts were in vain. Guarding 19 miles of ocean from 10 surfers did not work. Covid spread across the state.
Masks did not work.
Social distancing did not work.
Plexiglass did not work.
Bumping elbows instead of shaking hands did not work.
Separating loved ones from their dying relatives did not work.
Shutting down the economy did not work.
Vaccines don't seem to be working either. Israel, the most vaccinated country in the world, is suffering its worst covid wave yet.
Sweden didn't lockdown and it did little worse than anyone else and fared better than some.
It is time to live again.
Americans need to live like Americans again. Two centuries before Chief Walsh, another New Hampshire leader -- General John Stark -- the hero of the Battle of Bennington -- wrote to his men, "Live Free Or Die."
We need to be worthy of General Stark and go back to being Americans.
Yes, everybody with an ocean
Across the U.S.A
Go out and be surfin'
Even Californi-a
Go put on your baggies
Huarache sandals too
This is, this is what we do
Surfin' U.S.A.
General Stark and his men and the Green Mountain Boys of the Republic of Vermont fought a Revolutionary War amid a smallpox epidemic in which one-third of those infected died.
Not 0.5%.
33%.
They did not Zoom the war. They fought. They did not allow an actual plague to stop them from living before they died.
What has living like inmates locked down on death row achieved?
Nothing.
The New York Daily News reported, "Daily coronavirus cases are four times higher than they were following Labor Day weekend of last year with the number of daily deaths twice as high as they were this time in 2020, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
"Since the global health crisis emerged in late 2019, the United States has recorded more than 40 million COVID-19 cases, including just 4 million in the last month alone.
"Health officials noted the biggest difference between this year and last is the delta variant. They blamed the 316% increase over last year’s daily infections on the highly contagious covid 19 mutation as well as a large number of Americans refusing to become vaccinated against the fast-spreading disease.
"According to data from Health and Human Services, hospitalization rates are also up 157% compared with Labor Day weekend 2020, leaving medical facilities packed to the brim and their staffs exhausted and overwhelmed.
"What’s more, intensive care units across several states are inching closer to full capacity, which could force doctors to make life-and-death decisions."
The report is a bunch of Bolshevik Propaganda.
But the Pandemic Panic Press inadvertently makes my point. A year ago, we had no vaccine. Now we do and half the population is vaccinated and cases have quadrupled, then nothing works.
Blaming the unvaccinated for the increase is ridiculous. Last year no one was vaccinated, and we had one-fourth the cases we have now.
We know why.
The government and the media are manipulating the data.
At some point, we have to quit being babies and go back to being Americans.
Oh sure. Take precautions. I am not really sure just what those precautions are because none of them have stemmed the spread of covid. I was vaccinated. That seemed to work. But you do you.
Above all live.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/09/moderna-says-its-developing-a-single-vaccine-for-covid-and-flu-boosters-shares-gain.html
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https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/08/the-top-reason-i-hate-masks-is-they-force-me-to-live-by-lies/
The Top Reason I Hate Masks Is They Force Me To Live By Lies
Being forced to wear a mask is being forced to communicate that I support treating COVID-19 as if it should take priority over everything else in life. That's not only false, but evil.
That’s the most accurate article I’ve read in a long, long time. It encapsulates how I’ve come to feel.
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https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1436154487765405697
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I would love to see that chart broken down with ACCURATE numbers. The lockdown prevented some deaths (for example, fewer people on the roadways). It also caused some deaths (from despair, suicide, killing those stuck the house with you for weeks on end) plus those actually from COVID. I fear that we'll never know the truth since the truth will hurt those who crave power. But as an analytics guy, I'd love to see actual, clean, truthful data.
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One thing is for certain. Had we done what you guys prefer, nothing, the death toll would've been around 3 million instead of 600,000. I suspect a number of you would be among the deceased.
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One thing is for certain. Had we done what you guys prefer, nothing, the death toll would've been around 3 million instead of 600,000. I suspect a number of you would be among the deceased.
Too bad you have nothing to back up such a ludicrous statement with.
What kind of alcohol do you drink this early in the day btw?
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I would love to see that chart broken down with ACCURATE numbers. The lockdown prevented some deaths (for example, fewer people on the roadways). It also caused some deaths (from despair, suicide, killing those stuck the house with you for weeks on end) plus those actually from COVID. I fear that we'll never know the truth since the truth will hurt those who crave power. But as an analytics guy, I'd love to see actual, clean, truthful data.
I thought I heard that roadway deaths were actually up because people felt free to speed on emptier highways. That might be location specific. Maybe they were down in cities. Don’t know any the overall total is.
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One thing is for certain. Had we done what you guys prefer, nothing, the death toll would've been around 3 million instead of 600,000. I suspect a number of you would be among the deceased.
You might be right if people did nothing. But an SENSIBLE approach like protecting the most vulnerable, voluntary mask and voluntary work from home if you are uncomfortable being among others, a well-tested vaccine taken voluntarily. Sure, there may have been a few more deaths from COVID. A lot less deaths from draconian government overreach. And an economy that is booming and way less suffering. Of course Trump would still be president and I'm sure you'd hate that.
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I would love to see that chart broken down with ACCURATE numbers. The lockdown prevented some deaths (for example, fewer people on the roadways). It also caused some deaths (from despair, suicide, killing those stuck the house with you for weeks on end) plus those actually from COVID. I fear that we'll never know the truth since the truth will hurt those who crave power. But as an analytics guy, I'd love to see actual, clean, truthful data.
It’s a meme, obviously. However, it has a citation at the bottom for the CDC. I’m sure some enterprising minds can look them up and drop them into an Excel spreadsheet and come up with the same information. If not, then we’ve all been duped by a meme. However, this has been my belief all along, that the deaths and death rates in 2020 and 2021 won’t be statistically different than the historical numbers.
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One thing is for certain. Had we done what you guys prefer, nothing, the death toll would've been around 3 million instead of 600,000. I suspect a number of you would be among the deceased.
I don’t think it would have been very different. If people stayed home when sick with symptoms, or at most the whole family stays home, that would have been enough. Otherwise keep all businesses open, no mask silliness, no six feet apart in line at the grocery checkout, no one way aisle silliness, I think all of that was worse than useless.
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One thing is for certain. Had we done what you guys prefer, nothing, the death toll would've been around 3 million instead of 600,000. I suspect a number of you would be among the deceased.
are you using a new definition of "certain"?
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I don’t think it would have been very different. If people stayed home when sick with symptoms, or at most the whole family stays home, that would have been enough. Otherwise keep all businesses open, no mask silliness, no six feet apart in line at the grocery checkout, no one way aisle silliness, I think all of that was worse than useless.
^^^^^This, exactly. Do what we’ve done for a hundred and fifty years. Keep the sick people home, and the healthy get on with your lives.
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I would love to see that chart broken down with ACCURATE numbers. The lockdown prevented some deaths (for example, fewer people on the roadways). It also caused some deaths (from despair, suicide, killing those stuck the house with you for weeks on end) plus those actually from COVID. I fear that we'll never know the truth since the truth will hurt those who crave power. But as an analytics guy, I'd love to see actual, clean, truthful data.
The numbers look plausible if one assumes about half the ~650,000 deaths are counted in 2020 and the other half in 2021. I always use the rough approximation that ~1% of the population dies each year, so any value in the vicinity of 3 million/year looks right (the U.S. having a population of ~330,000,000.)
An increase of ~0.3 million/year is a 10% increase on ~3 million/year. So if one displays the percentage of deaths value only to a single digit, i.e. 0.9% in the meme, a 10% change could be obscured.
In the end the numbers are meaningless in arguments of public policy because one needs to look to basic principles to decide, otherwise one finds themselves arguing over selection of some arbitrarily chosen lethality number. This is a losing argument for anyone who desires individual freedom because a vital concession has been made to the people arguing for authoritarianism.
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One thing is for certain. Had we done what you guys prefer, nothing, the death toll would've been around 3 million instead of 600,000. I suspect a number of you would be among the deceased.
The communist moron has graced us the sum total of his bullshit ignorant communist blabber.
All hail comrade POS.
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Here's data I would like to see, of the break through cases, which vaccine(s) were used? What if it was just Moderna or J&J or Pfizer. Would that data every see the light of day?
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Why are we even using an emtionally charged phrase like "break through"?
No vaccine is perfect. The mRNA vaccines have a demonstrated effectiveness of about 95%. Which, if the math means anything, would mean that you can expect 5% of the vaccinated people to become infected if exposed.
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No vaccine is perfect. The mRNA vaccines have a demonstrated effectiveness of about 95%. Which, if the math means anything, would mean that you can expect 5% of the vaccinated people to become infected if exposed.
Another manipulated number.
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The numbers look plausible if one assumes about half the ~650,000 deaths are counted in 2020 and the other half in 2021. I always use the rough approximation that ~1% of the population dies each year, so any value in the vicinity of 3 million/year looks right (the U.S. having a population of ~330,000,000.)
An increase of ~0.3 million/year is a 10% increase on ~3 million/year. So if one displays the percentage of deaths value only to a single digit, i.e. 0.9% in the meme, a 10% change could be obscured.
In the end the numbers are meaningless in arguments of public policy because one needs to look to basic principles to decide, otherwise one finds themselves arguing over selection of some arbitrarily chosen lethality number. This is a losing argument for anyone who desires individual freedom because a vital concession has been made to the people arguing for authoritarianism.
One thing should be abundantly clear, if that meme is even remotely factual.
This Covid “crisis” has obscured almost all other types of deaths from public view. Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc., to the point that the fear porn we are being fed about Covid is designed to keep us from seeing the big picture.
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One thing should be abundantly clear, if that meme is even remotely factual.
This Covid “crisis” has obscured almost all other types of deaths from public view. Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc., to the point that the fear porn we are being fed about Covid is designed to keep us from seeing the big picture.
Exactly.
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Why are we even using an emtionally charged phrase like "break through"?
No vaccine is perfect. The mRNA vaccines have a demonstrated effectiveness of about 95%. Which, if the math means anything, would mean that you can expect 5% of the vaccinated people to become infected if exposed.
What if the case were only showing up for those that had Moderna? Would you not want to know that if you were considering getting vaccinated?
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Another manipulated number.
I would respectfully ask that you cite the study demonstrating the incorrectness of that estimate. I admit, it is lower now. It was based on the data then, where there was less virus and the new mutant strain wasn't present.
I would prefer to see a peer-reviewed study, and not some shit from Tucker Carlson or the like.
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I would respectfully ask that you cite the study demonstrating the incorrectness of that estimate. I admit, it is lower now. It was based on the data then, where there was less virus and the new mutant strain wasn't present.
I would prefer to see a peer-reviewed study, and not some shit from Tucker Carlson or the like.
You're a quack academic and a phony scientist. You are way too locked into an ideology to be objective.
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What if the case were only showing up for those that had Moderna? Would you not want to know that if you were considering getting vaccinated?
fair question. Except we know from the three vaccine trials (Moderna, pfizer, and J&J) there were people that were infected dispite being vaccinated.
It would be completely unexpected if any of the three suddenly became 100% effective.
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Why are we even using an emtionally charged phrase like "break through"?
No vaccine is perfect. The mRNA vaccines have a demonstrated effectiveness of about 95%. Which, if the math means anything, would mean that you can expect 5% of the vaccinated people to become infected if exposed.
I recently heard from a local hospital administrator that 83.6% of Covid patients at the local hospital are un-vaccinated. That's not 95%, but it is still enough to convince me that the vaccines help a lot. I for one am certain (using what I think is a traditional definition of the word) that I don't want to go through what my brother just went through. Of course though, he was vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.
edit: had to change "vaccinated to unvacinated" due to typo.
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fair question. Except we know from the three vaccine trials (Moderna, pfizer, and J&J) there were people that were infected dispite being vaccinated.
It would be completely unexpected if any of the three suddenly became 100% effective.
I did take the Pfizer vaccine, but now feel that I've been sold a pig in the poke. You get the polio vaccine, and you don't get polio. You get the whooping cough vaccine and you don't get whooping cough.
You get the covid vaccine and you maybe do/maybe don't get covid? WTF is that? If it doesn't work, it isn't a vaccine. Period.
Although I did get the two shot Pfizer series, I'll not get any more boosters or vaccines until one is PROVEN to work and do so WITHOUT potential serious side effects.
What bullshit! This is the LAST time I listen to any government or medical talking head. If their lips are moving, they're LYING!
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I did take the Pfizer vaccine, but now feel that I've been sold a pig in the poke. You get the polio vaccine, and you don't get polio. You get the whooping cough vaccine and you don't get whooping cough.
You get the covid vaccine and you maybe do/maybe don't get covid? WTF is that? If it doesn't work, it isn't a vaccine. Period.
Although I did get the two shot Pfizer series, I'll not get any more boosters or vaccines until one is PROVEN to work and do so WITHOUT potential serious side effects.
What bullshit! This is the LAST time I listen to any government or medical talking head. If their lips are moving, they're LYING!
The HIV vaccine is about 50% effective and people were lining up to get that, and it helped stem the tide.
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https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/09/07/massachusetts-coronavirus-breakthrough-cases-jump-4415-last-week-more-than-600-fully-vaccinated-people-a-day/
More than 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts tested positive for the coronavirus last week, a daily average of more than 600 people as breakthrough infections continue to rise each week amid the delta variant.
The rate of breakthrough infections week-over-week starting five weeks ago surged 64%, then the following week went up 20%, the next week jumped by 25%, the subsequent week increased by 20%, and in the last week climbed by 23%.
Breakthrough cases in Massachusetts are making up about one-third of the state’s overall cases. People who are unvaccinated are at a higher risk for infection and a severe case.
Overall, 23,858 fully vaxxed people have tested positive for the virus, according to new data from the state Department of Public Health on Tuesday. That’s 0.53% of the more than 4.5 million fully vaxxed people in Massachusetts.
The nearly 24,000 overall cases is an increase of 4,415 breakthrough infections from last week — or a daily average of 631 fully vaccinated people testing positive.
Last Tuesday’s report showed a rise of 3,704 breakthrough cases, a daily average of 529 fully vaxxed people testing positive.
The previous week was a jump of 3,098 infections, a daily average of 443 fully vaxxed people.
The prior week was a jump of 2,672 infections, a daily average of 382 infections.
The week before that was a rise of 2,232 breakthroughs, a daily average of 319 infections.
Breakthrough hospitalizations account for about 25% of current COVID-19 hospitalizations. Those who are unvaccinated are at a much higher risk for a severe case and hospitalization.
There have been 762 hospitalizations among fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts, which is 0.02% of those who are fully vaxxed.
The 762 total patients is a one-week increase of 111 fully vaxxed patients. The previous weekly increase was 80 fully vaxxed patients.
The state has reported 162 breakthrough deaths, or 0.004% of those who are fully vaxxed. That’s a one-week increase of 18 deaths. The previous weekly increase was 13 deaths, and the week before that was seven deaths.
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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00075-X/fulltext
What does 95% COVID-19 vaccine efficacy really mean?
It is imperative to dispel any ambiguity about how vaccine efficacy shown in trials translates into protecting individuals and populations. The mRNA-based Pfizer, and Moderna vaccines were shown to have 94–95% efficacy in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, calculated as 100 × (1 minus the attack rate with vaccine divided by the attack rate with placebo). It means that in a population such as the one enrolled in the trials, with a cumulated COVID-19 attack rate over a period of 3 months of about 1% without a vaccine, we would expect roughly 0·05% of vaccinated people would get diseased. It does not mean that 95% of people are protected from disease with the vaccine—a general misconception of vaccine protection also found in a Lancet Infectious Diseases Editorial. In the examples used in the Editorial, those protected are those who would have become diseased with COVID-19 had they not been vaccinated. This distinction is all the more important as, although we know the risk reduction achieved by these vaccines under trial conditions, we do not know whether and how it could vary if the vaccines were deployed on populations with different exposures, transmission levels, and attack rates.
Simple mathematics helps. If we vaccinated a population of 100 000 and protected 95% of them, that would leave 5000 individuals diseased over 3 months, which is almost the current overall COVID-19 case rate in the UK. Rather, a 95% vaccine efficacy means that instead of 1000 COVID-19 cases in a population of 100 000 without vaccine (from the placebo arm of the abovementioned trials, approximately 1% would be ill with COVID-19 and 99% would not) we would expect 50 cases (99·95% of the population is disease-free, at least for 3 months).
Accurate description of effects is not hair-splitting; it is much-needed exactness to avoid adding confusion to an extraordinarily complicated and tense scientific and societal debate around COVID-19 vaccines.
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I did take the Pfizer vaccine, but now feel that I've been sold a pig in the poke. You get the polio vaccine, and you don't get polio. You get the whooping cough vaccine and you don't get whooping cough.
The polio vaccine is not 100% effective.
The whooping cough vaccine is not 100% effective.
The MMR vaccine is not 100% effective.
Not one vaccine is 100% effective. Not one. None.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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The polio vaccine is not 100% effective.
The whooping cough vaccine is not 100% effective.
The MMR vaccine is not 100% effective.
Not one vaccine is 100% effective. Not one. None.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Flu - 40-60%
Polio - 2 doses, 90%, 4 doses, 99-100%
Measles - 93%
Smallpox - 95%
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Flu - 40-60%
Polio - 2 doses, 90%, 4 doses, 99-100%
Measles - 93%
Smallpox - 95%
Speaking of measles, we are now getting outbreaks in the camps of the Afghans we are importing.
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I did take the Pfizer vaccine, but now feel that I've been sold a pig in the poke. You get the polio vaccine, and you don't get polio. You get the whooping cough vaccine and you don't get whooping cough.
You get the covid vaccine and you maybe do/maybe don't get covid? WTF is that? If it doesn't work, it isn't a vaccine. Period.
Although I did get the two shot Pfizer series, I'll not get any more boosters or vaccines until one is PROVEN to work and do so WITHOUT potential serious side effects.
What bullshit! This is the LAST time I listen to any government or medical talking head. If their lips are moving, they're LYING!
Its NOT A VACCINE.
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Flu - 40-60%
Polio - 2 doses, 90%, 4 doses, 99-100%
Measles - 93%
Smallpox - 95%
When was the last time you heard of someone getting smallpox?
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Its NOT A VACCINE.
But Healthcare, Government, MEDIA, Corporations, Education etc are CALLING IT A VACCINE.
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Its NOT A VACCINE.
Because no cows were harmed in its production?
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fair question. Except we know from the three vaccine trials (Moderna, pfizer, and J&J) there were people that were infected dispite being vaccinated.
It would be completely unexpected if any of the three suddenly became 100% effective.
The statement is a bullshit lie, told by professional liars.
My wife and her girlfriend are both RN's.
I am told by both that at the hospital, if you are admitted with covid and are vaccinated THEY DO NOT COUNT YOU AS AN ACTUAL COVID CASE to skew the numbers intentionally.
Only unvaccinated people admitted with active covid are being reported counted as new cases.
I'm sure steingar can cite a 'peer reviewed study' explaining why that is good medicine.
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The HIV vaccine is about 50% effective and people were lining up to get that, and it helped stem the tide.
Are you seriously trying to equate HIV with the chinese virus?
Please....
If the scam vaccine was so effective and protected so many against the fucking chinese chemical warfare release in the US, how come the government has to threaten people to take it?
How come there are 300% more 'cases' of the scam virus than a year ago, before any vaccine was available, when so many have pandered to the whores in the CDC and taken the scam vaccine?
AND MY FAVORITE question for the cdc whores...
HOW COME illegals are exempted from the scam vaccine if it is so imperative????
Because it is all based on lies and liars, like that fucking senile imposter.
It is all about power and money.
That's why.
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When was the last time you heard of someone getting smallpox?
I think the last case was in the 70s. But the vaccine would still have the same efficacy if we were still vaccinating people, which we might have to start up again if either of the two remaining stores of the virus ever escape. (One in Russia and the other in the U.S. IIRC)
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So, my wife may have COVID, had her tested today, no results for 36-48 hours. She had cold symptoms for a couple of days now coughing, sneezing and runny nose. It was after we had breakfast out this morning that she said she couldn't smell the perfume she put on nor taste her food.
While you can buy in-home rapid test kits, they sell out as soon as the pharmacies get them in. I did manage to get her a test within out health system. They have a drive through location not far from us. She had Moderna months ago. She is definitely not sick enough to go to the ER so she would never show in that kind of statistic. I kind of wonder what would make a vaccinated person show up at the ER and need to be admitted.
I seem to be fine, certainly that could change. My vaccination was more recent and is Pfizer.
One thing that grinds my ass is it seems like they are trying to paint Republicans as the one not getting vaccinated. I'm not sure I know any conservative voices that are not vaccinated and do not tell folks to get vaccinated. It is a lot of middle class folks and a large amount of the black population that are not vaccinated.
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The HIV vaccine is about 50% effective and people were lining up to get that, and it helped stem the tide.
You mean HPV. Totally different disease. There is no HIV vaccine yet that I’m aware of.
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You're a quack academic and a phony scientist. You are way too locked into an ideology to be objective.
I will take that to mean that you are completely unable to fulfill my respectfully made request and got your facts from a Right Wing blog or a tweet or something.
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So, my wife may have COVID, had her tested today, no results for 36-48 hours. She had cold symptoms for a couple of days now coughing, sneezing and runny nose. It was after we had breakfast out this morning that she said she couldn't smell the perfume she put on nor taste her food.
While you can buy in-home rapid test kits, they sell out as soon as the pharmacies get them in. I did manage to get her a test within out health system. They have a drive through location not far from us. She had Moderna months ago. She is definitely not sick enough to go to the ER so she would never show in that kind of statistic. I kind of wonder what would make a vaccinated person show up at the ER and need to be admitted.
I seem to be fine, certainly that could change. My vaccination was more recent and is Pfizer.
One thing that grinds my ass is it seems like they are trying to paint Republicans as the one not getting vaccinated. I'm not sure I know any conservative voices that are not vaccinated and do not tell folks to get vaccinated. It is a lot of middle class folks and a large amount of the black population that are not vaccinated.
I hope your wife just has a regular cold. My neighbor is on day 13, her symptoms are very stuffy head, sinus and nose pressure, and headache, she is very dizzy, presumably from inner ear involvement. She’s been in bed all this time and is very miserable. But her husband and daughter both had mild symptoms and seem to have gotten over it in less than a week.
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I hope your wife just has a regular cold. My neighbor is on day 13, her symptoms are very stuffy head, sinus and nose pressure, and headache, she is very dizzy, presumably from inner ear involvement. She’s been in bed all this time and is very miserable. But her husband and daughter both had mild symptoms and seem to have gotten over it in less than a week.
She seems better today. The trigger to get her tested was her talking about taste and smell. We'll see.
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She seems better today. The trigger to get her tested was her talking about taste and smell. We'll see.
My son in law had a normal cold several years ago. He lost all sense of smell and taste. It was awful, he said all food tasted like cardboard, he had trouble eating anything. After about two years it slowly started coming back. So that can happen with other viruses too but it does seems more common with covid than ordinary colds.
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When was the last time you heard of someone getting smallpox?
Outside of the third world illegal immigrant population.
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I will take that to mean that you are completely unable to fulfill my respectfully made request and got your facts from a Right Wing blog or a tweet or something.
No, take it to mean what I wrote. You are a phony, and a quack. It’s laughable that you consider yourself a teacher.
Real scientist aren’t locked into an ideology.
Liberalism is a mental disorder. You’re living proof of that.
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You mean HPV. Totally different disease. There is no HIV vaccine yet that I’m aware of.
Duh, I suppose Mikey and I were having a few drinks when I posted that. I may have been thinking about the FIV (Feline Immunodeficiency Virus; or "Feline Aids") vaccine, which has been pulled since I was in the business. It was pulled partly because of it's low effectiveness rate.
It's embarrassing when I post stupid shit like that. Especially when I get caught. :-[
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Duh, I suppose Mikey and I were having a few drinks when I posted that. I may have been thinking about the FIV (Feline Immunodeficiency Virus; or "Feline Aids") vaccine, which has been pulled since I was in the business. It was pulled partly because of it's low effectiveness rate.
It's embarrassing when I post stupid shit like that. Especially when I get caught. :-[
You’re doing it wrong. You’re supposed to say, “Of course I know that. I fat fingered HIV when I meant HPV.”
;D
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You’re doing it wrong. You’re supposed to say, “Of course I know that. I fat fingered HIV when I meant HPV.”
;D
Even that would have been wrong. The correct way is to blame it on spell check. But the truth is, I had a senior moment.
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When it came out the HPV was as miraculous as it was controversial. They took a gene that encodes a viral protein, expressed it in yeast, purified the protein and combined it with an adjuvant (something to trigger the immune system).
A really good legacy vaccine was about 75%. HPV was around 95%. Even the makers were astounded by its efficacy.
But the controversy. HPV is the causative agent of cervical cancer, a big killer of women, So the HPV vaccine could save lots of lives. But HPV is a venereal disease, so upstanding young people shouldn’t need it. I recall at the time a fairly high ranking member of the Bush administration (the younger) saying were there a good HIV vaccine (there isn’t that I know of) he’s not give it to his kids.
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When it came out the HPV was as miraculous as it was controversial. They took a gene that encodes a viral protein, expressed it in yeast, purified the protein and combined it with an adjuvant (something to trigger the immune system).
A really good legacy vaccine was about 75%. HPV was around 95%. Even the makers were astounded by its efficacy.
But the controversy. HPV is the causative agent of cervical cancer, a big killer of women, So the HPV vaccine could save lots of lives. But HPV is a venereal disease, so upstanding young people shouldn’t need it. I recall at the time a fairly high ranking member of the Bush administration (the younger) saying were there a good HIV vaccine (there isn’t that I know of) he’s not give it to his kids.
That's exactly right! When it came out my sister was asking me if she should take my niece to get it and I said yes and she said, but won't that tell her it's okay to have sex? I'm like, you REALLY trust ANY teenager to not have sex just because you think you raised them right? If they are truly chaste and not having sex, then simply getting a vaccine isn't going to change their mind. There are kids out there committed to waiting, more than you think but if they are, one vaccine won't derail them. And what if they're raped? Or maybe they get married young? There is also an association between HPV and certain throat cancers so it's possible you can get it from just kissing although that hasn't been absolutely confirmed yet AFAIK.
That's the same argument for not letting teens have access to birth control, because it will be like "giving them permission to have sex". That's how you end up with abortions.
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In my vaccine research I came across the HPV vax Gardasil. It was found to have caused a striking number of women/girls to get POTS syndrome. My neighbor’s daughter is one of them. It has struck her down in the midst of an education and internship for the career she loves, physical therapy.
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In my vaccine research I came across the HPV vax Gardasil. It was found to have caused a striking number of women/girls to get POTS syndrome. My neighbor’s daughter is one of them. It has struck her down in the midst of an education and internship for the career she loves, physical therapy.
The problem is that you give Gardasil mostly to young women, and POTS also strikes mostly young women so there’s an association but it hasn’t been proven that the vaccine is the cause. They don’t really know the cause but it might be an auto immune disorder. I was diagnosed with it myself but late in life and I’ve never had the HPV vaccine. Well, if you consider my age “late”…
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.119.013602
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In my vaccine research I came across the HPV vax Gardasil. It was found to have caused a striking number of women/girls to get POTS syndrome. My neighbor’s daughter is one of them. It has struck her down in the midst of an education and internship for the career she loves, physical therapy.
No link between Guardasil and POTS according to these guys:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0883073817718731?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed& (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0883073817718731?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed&)
and these guys:
https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(17)30411-1/pdf (https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(17)30411-1/pdf)
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I'm still waiting to understand the virtue in forcing people to get vaccinated. To force someone to do something shows a lack of respect for them. It's arrogance in what might be its worst form.
Yes, I believe people should get the vaccine, but if they don't, it's not a problem for me. I'm vaccinated. Even with Delta, the odds of me dying from covid are 1 in a million. if you don't want the vaccine, what you're really saying is that you'll take your chances getting covid to acquire your immunity. Everyone is going to gain immunity eventually, it's just a matter of when and how much/what kind of risk you want to take on.
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I'm still waiting to understand the virtue in forcing people to get vaccinated. To force someone to do something shows a lack of respect for them. It's arrogance in what might be its worst form.
Yes, I believe people should get the vaccine, but if they don't, it's not a problem for me.
My 30 something nephew was/is a big anti-vaxer. He contracted Covid and had to go to the ER, although he wasn't bad enough to be admitted. He went home and a few days later his 9 yr old son got it and had to be quarantined. Nine yr olds hate that, but even that wasn't too bad. The kid had something like a mild cold and got better.
But he also gave it to his 55 yr old Pfizer-vaccinated father (my brother) who had an awful time for several weeks, including a stint in the ICU.
At least there are now three more people with immunity. But for those that rightly say that our reaction (lockdowns, social distancing etc) cost the economy too much, a couple of vaccines would have cost a whole lot less too.
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My 30 something nephew was/is a big anti-vaxer. He contracted Covid and had to go to the ER, although he wasn't bad enough to be admitted. He went home and a few days later his 9 yr old son got it and had to be quarantined. Nine yr olds hate that, but even that wasn't too bad. The kid had something like a mild cold and got better.
But he also gave it to his 55 yr old Pfizer-vaccinated father (my brother) who had an awful time for several weeks, including a stint in the ICU.
At least there are now three more people with immunity. But for those that rightly say that our reaction (lockdowns, social distancing etc) cost the economy too much, a couple of vaccines would have cost a whole lot less too.
But you just said your brother was vaccinated and it didn’t seem to do him any good. And what we have now is not either / or…. (Either you get vaccinated OR you must continue social distancing) as promised. We now have both together, you all must get vaccinated AND we will continue masks, social distancing, 50% capacity and so on.
No getting back to normal. They keep promising and then breaking their promise beginning with “two weeks to flatten the curve”. Now we have all the variants the vaccine is much less effective against, in less than a year. Every few months we will get a new variant that defeats the vaccine. This is not polio, this is not smallpox, it will never be eradicated. Polio had a death rate of 5-15% and left many more paralyzed, it was a FAR worse disease and we never locked down and destroyed the whole economy over it. This is the biggest man-made unnecessary socio-economic disaster of all time.
https://www.aier.org/article/no-lockdowns-the-terrifying-polio-pandemic-of-1949-52/
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My 30 something nephew was/is a big anti-vaxer. He contracted Covid and had to go to the ER, although he wasn't bad enough to be admitted. He went home and a few days later his 9 yr old son got it and had to be quarantined. Nine yr olds hate that, but even that wasn't too bad. The kid had something like a mild cold and got better.
But he also gave it to his 55 yr old Pfizer-vaccinated father (my brother) who had an awful time for several weeks, including a stint in the ICU.
At least there are now three more people with immunity. But for those that rightly say that our reaction (lockdowns, social distancing etc) cost the economy too much, a couple of vaccines would have cost a whole lot less too.
What makes you so certain (other than it fits your narrative) that your brother got covid from your nephew?
By what measure do you claim that IF he (they) were vaccinated things would have been completely different?
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But you just said your brother was vaccinated
I feel pretty confident in using the term "nobody" in this case; As in NOBODY has ever said the vaccine was 100% effective. In fact, I believe even YOU have said that. But the odds of getting the disease are much lower if you are vaccinated, and they are lower still if you are not directly exposed by someone in your own household that you live with every day. Our local hospital here has about a 17% "breakghrough" rate, although my brother lives 400 miles from here.
I believe that you have also stated, or at least agreed with the idea that the more often the disease is replicated, the higher the chance of it mutating and further reducing the effectiveness of the vaccine.
and it didn’t seem to do him any good.
I don't know that and neither do you. He didn't die from it. He may well have died if he had not had the vaccine. He was very sick as it was, as evidenced by being admitted to the hospital.
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But he also gave it to his 55 yr old Pfizer-vaccinated father (my brother) who had an awful time for several weeks, including a stint in the ICU.
You can posit that, but given the apparent long incubation period and the number of people that have had (or have it currently), your brother could have gotten it from any number of other sources.
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You can posit that, but given the apparent long incubation period and the number of people that have had (or have it currently), your brother could have gotten it from any number of other sources.
And how would that change anything? Yeah, he "may" have gotten it from another vaccinated person, but the odds are vastly in favor of him having contracted it from an un-vaccinated person. And that would make it ever worse because he would have gotten it from someone else who said "my body my choice" and still infected MY brother.
And speaking of odds, (Yeah, it is only me speaking of odds) but what are the odds of him catching it from a stranger with whom he had little contact versus catching it from his son, who he was living with and taking care of?
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Was looking at the CDC data this morning. It brought up questions. This rise in cases began around July 1st. We are now on the the back side of the curve. Why did Biden wait until September 9th to decide action was warranted. Seems like that decision should have been made nearer to July 15th or so.
I think we all know this is more about control and trying to take to the focus away from other things. How many of you know that CPI was up 8% for August? That was recently announced. Add that to all the other shit that has happened and.........
As a SS recipient my mind wonders how they will rework the SS formula to screw us at the end of the year.
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Was looking at the CDC data this morning. It brought up questions. This rise in cases began around July 1st. We are now on the the back side of the curve. Why did Biden wait until September 9th to decide action was warranted. Seems like that decision should have been made nearer to July 15th or so.
I think we all know this is more about control and trying to take to the focus away from other things. How many of you know that CPI was up 8% for August? That was recently announced. Add that to all the other shit that has happened and.........
As a SS recipient my mind wonders how they will rework the SS formula to screw us at the end of the year.
Xiden’s mandates are nothing but pure politics. If the senile old crook was truly concerned about Covid and health, the southern border would have been the first thing closed. And since he didn’t close it, instead opting to fly sick illegals into red states and red cities to spread the virus.
Second, his mandates exclude large groups. Again, this is not about health. The proof is all around him.
Xiden and his handlers are bailing water on a sinking administration. His only recourse is to attack and blame US citizens that he considers “undesirable”. Remember Hillary’s deplorable’s comment?
The democrat communist are seeking a mass purge.
What’s next? Well quietly the Xiden Administration is looking at forbidding unvaxxed from airline, train and bus travel. They are also considering withholding SS checks, military retirement checks and access to VA medical facilities.
Weaponization of federal agencies is in full swing now.
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Was looking at the CDC data this morning. It brought up questions. This rise in cases began around July 1st. We are now on the the back side of the curve. Why did Biden wait until September 9th to decide action was warranted. Seems like that decision should have been made nearer to July 15th or so.
I think we all know this is more about control and trying to take to the focus away from other things. How many of you know that CPI was up 8% for August? That was recently announced. Add that to all the other shit that has happened and.........
As a SS recipient my mind wonders how they will rework the SS formula to screw us at the end of the year.
I heard that it was up, but I hadn't heard 8%! Do you have a link for that/
This is all I could find:
https://www.bls.gov/cpi/
July +0.5%
In July, the Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers rose 0.5 percent on a seasonally adjusted basis; rising 5.4 percent over the last 12 months, not seasonally adjusted.
So in July it was up 5.4% for the past 12 months.
and this:
Next Release
August 2021 CPI data are scheduled to be released on September 14, 2021, at 8:30 A.M. Eastern Time.
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Xiden’s mandates are nothing but pure politics. If the senile old crook was truly concerned about Covid and health, the southern border would have been the first thing closed. And since he didn’t close it, instead opting to fly sick illegals into red states and red cities to spread the virus.
Second, his mandates exclude large groups. Again, this is not about health. The proof is all around him.
Xiden and his handlers are bailing water on a sinking administration. His only recourse is to attack and blame US citizens that he considers “undesirable”. Remember Hillary’s deplorable’s comment?
The democrat communist are seeking a mass purge.
What’s next? Well quietly the Xiden Administration is looking at forbidding unvaxxed from airline, train and bus travel. They are also considering withholding SS checks, military retirement checks and access to VA medical facilities.
Weaponization of federal agencies is in full swing now.
I believe and/or agree with all of that.
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Fuck Covid. It's nothing but a Smokescreen to deflect from the real crap they're doing or enabling. Hyper inflation, probable increased terrorism from the Afghan debacle, more fossil fuel restrictions, EV mandates, taxes, giveaways, etc.
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Fuck Covid. It's nothing but a Smokescreen to deflect from the real crap they're doing or enabling. Hyper inflation, probable increased terrorism from the Afghan debacle, more fossil fuel restrictions, EV mandates, taxes, giveaways, etc.
Exactly.
Covid is a control function that has worked brilliantly for the Democrat communist and the CCP.
If the perfesser has any reading comprehension skills, he could go back and read all of Pope Tony’s emails to see just what is actually going on. It’s right there, in Pope Tony’s own words. Pope Tony has lied repeatedly under oath, and continues to lie even with videos and his own documentation proving his lies. Had Pope Tony been a conservative, and had colluded with Trump, he would be wearing an orange jumpsuit in solitary confinement awaiting to be arkancided.
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I feel pretty confident in using the term "nobody" in this case; As in NOBODY has ever said the vaccine was 100% effective. In fact, I believe even YOU have said that. But the odds of getting the disease are much lower if you are vaccinated, and they are lower still if you are not directly exposed by someone in your own household that you live with every day. Our local hospital here has about a 17% "breakghrough" rate, although my brother lives 400 miles from here.
I believe that you have also stated, or at least agreed with the idea that the more often the disease is replicated, the higher the chance of it mutating and further reducing the effectiveness of the vaccine.
I don't know that and neither do you. He didn't die from it. He may well have died if he had not had the vaccine. He was very sick as it was, as evidenced by being admitted to the hospital.
What does 17% breakthrough mean? 17% of vaccinated people will get covid as shown by a positive test? 17% will get it and be symptomatic? 17% will get it bad enough to be hospitalized? 17% of people who say they are vaccinated but are lying will get it?
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What does 17% breakthrough mean? 17% of vaccinated people will get covid as shown by a positive test? 17% will get it and be symptomatic? 17% will get it bad enough to be hospitalized? 17% of people who say they are vaccinated but are lying will get it?
My 17% figure is the ratio of vaccinated to non-vaccinated people with Covid in our local hospital. (Hospitalized = serious symptoms) The actual number is 83.5% unvaccinated and 16.5% vaccinated.
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Fuck Covid. It's nothing but a Smokescreen to deflect from the real crap they're doing or enabling. Hyper inflation, probable increased terrorism from the Afghan debacle, more fossil fuel restrictions, EV mandates, taxes, giveaways, etc.
I also agree with this. Covid is serious, and "I THINK" most people should CHOOSE to get vaccinated.
But I also agree that COVID should be lower priority than those things you mentioned, and more. And it shouldn't be used as an excuse to bankrupt us and make millions dependent on "government assistance".
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And how would that change anything?
It sounded like you were assigning blame and it really isn't conclusive exactly where it came from.
heck, it could have be a cummulative exposure.
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I heard that it was up, but I hadn't heard 8%! Do you have a link for that/
This is all I could find:
https://www.bls.gov/cpi/ (https://www.bls.gov/cpi/)
July +0.5%
So in July it was up 5.4% for the past 12 months.
and this:
My bad, it is the PPI....
https://www.newsdirectory3.com/u-s-ppi-annual-growth-rate-expanded-to-8-3-in-august-hitting-a-new-11-year-high-anue/
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My bad, it is the PPI....
https://www.newsdirectory3.com/u-s-ppi-annual-growth-rate-expanded-to-8-3-in-august-hitting-a-new-11-year-high-anue/
I would not have been surprised if you did have an early source, official or not. I expect that when the August CPI is announced, it will be in a similar range to the PPI. I certainly know my consumer costs have gone up. It costs almost as much to cook at home now as it used to cost to go out.
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Who could have possibly predicted that adding trillions of dollars to the economy would cause inflation?
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I'm still waiting to understand the virtue in forcing people to get vaccinated. To force someone to do something shows a lack of respect for them. It's arrogance in what might be its worst form.
Yes, I believe people should get the vaccine, but if they don't, it's not a problem for me. I'm vaccinated. Even with Delta, the odds of me dying from covid are 1 in a million. if you don't want the vaccine, what you're really saying is that you'll take your chances getting covid to acquire your immunity. Everyone is going to gain immunity eventually, it's just a matter of when and how much/what kind of risk you want to take on.
If they can "make you" do this for an ailment that doesn't even present symptoms in at least 80%, "inconvenient" non-specific symptoms in 19+%, and fatal results in some percentage of those that are old and vulnerable to anything to tip their health in a bad way already, then they can make you do anything.
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My 30 something nephew was/is a big anti-vaxer. He contracted Covid and had to go to the ER, although he wasn't bad enough to be admitted. He went home and a few days later his 9 yr old son got it and had to be quarantined. Nine yr olds hate that, but even that wasn't too bad. The kid had something like a mild cold and got better.
But he also gave it to his 55 yr old Pfizer-vaccinated father (my brother) who had an awful time for several weeks, including a stint in the ICU.
At least there are now three more people with immunity. But for those that rightly say that our reaction (lockdowns, social distancing etc) cost the economy too much, a couple of vaccines would have cost a whole lot less too.
The "reaction" is forced by government, not the "disease."
And IT'S NOT A VACCINE!
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This is not polio, this is not smallpox, it will never be eradicated. Polio had a death rate of 5-15% and left many more paralyzed, it was a FAR worse disease and we never locked down and destroyed the whole economy over it. This is the biggest man-made unnecessary socio-economic disaster of all time.
There is an agenda. There has to be.
First, it was used to unseat Trump because every other way failed. "They" would not tolerate another 4 years.
Then, once they discovered how easily the world could be controlled, they adopted the fear porn as a mechanism to do worse.
It's going to get worse. Much worse.
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-victory-boris-johnson-just-cancelled-vaccine-passports/
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And how would that change anything? Yeah, he "may" have gotten it from another vaccinated person, but the odds are vastly in favor of him having contracted it from an un-vaccinated person. And that would make it ever worse because he would have gotten it from someone else who said "my body my choice" and still infected MY brother.
And speaking of odds, (Yeah, it is only me speaking of odds) but what are the odds of him catching it from a stranger with whom he had little contact versus catching it from his son, who he was living with and taking care of?
Why does one family member "get it" and the rest of the household doesn't?
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Why does one family member "get it" and the rest of the household doesn't?
Covid is a highly intelligent virus. It seeks out only certain people, at certain times and in certain situations. For “sophisticated liberals” Covid will avoid them, and seek out knuckle dragging MAGA hat wearers.
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And how would that change anything? Yeah, he "may" have gotten it from another vaccinated person, but the odds are vastly in favor of him having contracted it from an un-vaccinated person. And that would make it ever worse because he would have gotten it from someone else who said "my body my choice" and still infected MY brother.
And speaking of odds, (Yeah, it is only me speaking of odds) but what are the odds of him catching it from a stranger with whom he had little contact versus catching it from his son, who he was living with and taking care of?
Your generalizations about every facet of your story is a problem for me.
Just because you think something, doesn't make it true.
That's what liberals do. They make up shit, spin it into a sob story and then demand action, that suits their agenda.
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Yea, it’s really about public health...,,, ::)
https://mobile.twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1437105028494503936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1437105028494503936%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fcaught-on-video-we-need-to-be-more-scary-to-the-public-we-need-to-inflate-the-real-covid-numbers%2F
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Why does one family member "get it" and the rest of the household doesn't?
It wouldn't be uncommon for only some of the household to catch a virus. Some people have better immune systems, or maybe aren't as close to each other, or maybe wash their hands more. I remember as a kid, out of us six kids it seemed like everyone was sick at one time or another, but not usually more than two at a time. And my mother almost never got sick.
But in this instance, everyone got it.
My nephew's girlfriend abandoned him and their kid (to run away with his best friend) last year. A few months later, my brother's wife kicked him out of the house and filed for divorce. So he moved in with his son and grandson. All three of them got it.
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The "reaction" is forced by government, not the "disease."
True, but why do you feel the need to tell me that when I never said differently?
And IT'S NOT A VACCINE!
By who's definition? It certainly meets most of the definitions of a vaccine that I am aware of.
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Yea, it’s really about public health...,,, ::)
https://mobile.twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1437105028494503936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1437105028494503936%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fcaught-on-video-we-need-to-be-more-scary-to-the-public-we-need-to-inflate-the-real-covid-numbers%2F
Wish there was info on who those people were in the video.
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Wish there was info on who those people were in the video.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/caught-on-video-we-need-to-be-more-scary-to-the-public-we-need-to-inflate-the-real-covid-numbers/
https://www.wect.com/2021/09/10/novant-health-issues-statement-leaked-internal-discussion-covid-19-patient-numbers/
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/caught-on-video-we-need-to-be-more-scary-to-the-public-we-need-to-inflate-the-real-covid-numbers/
https://www.wect.com/2021/09/10/novant-health-issues-statement-leaked-internal-discussion-covid-19-patient-numbers/
Thanks. The statement issued by the medical center was utterly clueless.
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https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/caught-on-video-we-need-to-be-more-scary-to-the-public-we-need-to-inflate-the-real-covid-numbers/ (https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/caught-on-video-we-need-to-be-more-scary-to-the-public-we-need-to-inflate-the-real-covid-numbers/)
https://www.wect.com/2021/09/10/novant-health-issues-statement-leaked-internal-discussion-covid-19-patient-numbers/ (https://www.wect.com/2021/09/10/novant-health-issues-statement-leaked-internal-discussion-covid-19-patient-numbers/)
The release talks about how deaths are the worst now. I guess they were being specific to their hospital as the data from the CDC doesn't seem to agree with that.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailydeaths
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Thanks. The statement issued by the medical center was utterly clueless.
Of course. They never intended on that getting out.
Still think this is about healthcare?
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The release talks about how deaths are the worst now. I guess they were being specific to their hospital as the data from the CDC doesn't seem to agree with that.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailydeaths
They’re caught lying, and they’re caught planning to lie more.
This is why Americans no longer trust health care or the government.
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You can posit that, but given the apparent long incubation period and the number of people that have had (or have it currently), your brother could have gotten it from any number of other sources.
To be fair, it is true that most cases are gotten from very close contact, family and coworkers. You don’t pick it up from strangers in the grocery aisle.
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There is an agenda. There has to be.
First, it was used to unseat Trump because every other way failed. "They" would not tolerate another 4 years.
Then, once they discovered how easily the world could be controlled, they adopted the fear porn as a mechanism to do worse.
It's going to get worse. Much worse.
^^^^^^^THIS!!!!!!
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https://twitter.com/StephHoover8/status/1437454457315467270
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The problem with liberals - all liberals - is that it is NEVER enough.
There is never enough to satisfy liberals because they are the most unhappy, pathetic, useless, waste of oxygen and damned angry that it is legal for other to be happy.
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The problem with liberals - all liberals - is that it is NEVER enough.
There is never enough to satisfy liberals because they are the most unhappy, pathetic, useless, waste of oxygen and damned angry that it is legal for other to be happy.
Exactly. Ask any one of them how much tax is enough? How much freedom is enough? No answer. It's always more more more. Tax income. Tax wealth. Tax everyone (except me).
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https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1437793334999883780?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1437793535688908806%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fcdc-admits-natural-immunity-is-real%2F
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Don't remember if I posted this here or not. As of last Friday my wife tested positive, results gotten on Sunday. She also tested at a Walgreens drive thru on Sunday and that was positive also Her symptoms through all of it were sore throat, then runny nose and sneezing. We got her tested on Friday because she added in taste and smell to the symptoms. The other symptoms started very early in the week if not before.
I didn't have her isolate and we've lived fairly normally since other than not going out anywhere. When we went thru the Walgreens drive in on Sunday I asked if they had any in-home kits in stock. The had one left, so I bought it. I hung on to it until this morning. I have had zero symptoms all this time. I tested this morning and tested negative.
The kit has two tests in it and she will test with it on Thursday or Friday. My DIL may be having here cancer surgery on Friday in Jacksonville, FL and we want to be down there, but will not go until my wife tests negative. CDC actually says she could mingle now as she's been symptom for days now.
The line by the "C" means I was negative, a line by the "T" would have meant positive.
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Don't remember if I posted this here or not. As of last Friday my wife tested positive, results gotten on Sunday. She also tested at a Walgreens drive thru on Sunday and that was positive also Her symptoms through all of it were sore throat, then runny nose and sneezing. We got her tested on Friday because she added in taste and smell to the symptoms. The other symptoms started very early in the week if not before.
I didn't have her isolate and we've lived fairly normally since other than not going out anywhere. When we went thru the Walgreens drive in on Sunday I asked if they had any in-home kits in stock. The had one left, so I bought it. I hung on to it until this morning. I have had zero symptoms all this time. I tested this morning and tested negative.
The kit has two tests in it and she will test with it on Thursday or Friday. My DIL may be having here cancer surgery on Friday in Jacksonville, FL and we want to be down there, but will not go until my wife tests negative. CDC actually says she could mingle now as she's been symptom for days now.
The line by the "C" means I was negative, a line by the "T" would have meant positive.
Why do they do that? Why not N and P for negative and positive? Keep it simple.
I’m glad she’s doing better. My next door neighbor is slowly getting better, she had a real rough time with headache and head congestion but she finally got up out of bed yesterday.
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If the sample contains SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen, it will react with the anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the blocker pad and conjugate pad and forms a sandwich complex that migrates up the test strip. As the complex continues to migrate up the test strip it encounters the Test (T) Zone and will react with the streptavidin immobilized on the nitrocellulose, a reddish-purple line will appear, qualitatively
indicating the presence of SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid antigen in the sample. The intensity of the line color is not directly proportional to the amount of antigen present in the sample. If the sample does not contain SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen, the sandwich complex will not form and the reagents will flow past the Test (T) Zone.
Further up the test strip, the sample will encounter the Control (C) Zone. This is a built-in procedural control which
serves to demonstrate that the fluid migrated through the test device. For negative results and most positive results a
line will form at the Control (C) Zone. In some cases when viral levels are high, the line at the Control Zone may be
very faint or may not be present.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/new-study-suggests-almost-half-all-covid-hospitalizations-january-june-had-mild-or
A brand new study is calling into question how reliable and meaningful of a number of "patients hospitalized with Covid-19" in the U.S. is.
Covid hospitalizations - the most common metric heard when discussing the seriousness of the pandemic - may not be nearly as meaningful of a number as many once thought. And don't take it from us: The Atlantic published a stunning piece on Tuesday citing a new study that suggests "almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases".
The Atlantic had formerly called Covid hospitalizations “the most reliable pandemic number,” last winter. Now, after a nationwide study of hospitalization records was release, the publication is walking back its fervor on that statement.
Researchers from Harvard Medical School, Tufts Medical Center, and the Veterans Affairs Healthcare System took on the task of trying to figure out how serious Covid cases were in those hospitalized, and how many people counted as Covid hospitalizations were actually in the hospital for Covid, versus getting a Covid test after being admitted for something else.
The study "analyzed the electronic records for nearly 50,000 COVID hospital admissions at the more than 100 VA hospitals across the country," The Atlantic wrote. It "checked to see whether each patient required supplemental oxygen or had a blood oxygen level below 94 percent" in order to try and determine if cases met the NIH's threshold for "severe COVID".
What the study found was that from March 2020 to January 2021, 36% of Covid cases in the hospital were mild or asymptomatic. From January 2021 to June 2021, during the Delta variant's spread, that number rose all the way to 48%. For vaccinated hospital patients, the number rose to a stunning 57%.
As The Atlantic put it in their own words: "The study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease."
The limitations of the study obviously included the fact that the VA isn't representative of the total U.S. population:
Among the limitations of the study is that patients in the VA system are not representative of the U.S. population as a whole, as they include few women and no children. (Still, the new findings echo those from the two pediatric-admissions studies.) Also, like many medical centers, the VA has a policy to test every inpatient for COVID, but this is not a universal practice. Lastly, most of the data—even from the patients admitted in 2021—derive from the phase of the pandemic before Delta became widespread, and it’s possible that the ratios have changed in recent months. The study did run through June 30, however, when the Delta wave was about to break, and it did not find that the proportion of patients with moderate to severe respiratory distress was trending upward at the end of the observation period.
Graham Snyder, the medical director of infection prevention and hospital epidemiology at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, says the study buries the lede of how effective the vaccine is: “It’s underreported how well the vaccine makes your life better, how much less sick you are likely to be, and less sick even if hospitalized. That’s the gem in this study.”
Daniel Griffin, an infectious-disease specialist at Columbia University, concurred: “People ask me, ‘Why am I getting vaccinated if I just end up in the hospital anyway?’ But I say, ‘You’ll end up leaving the hospital.’”
"We should refine the definition of hospitalization," said Shira Doron, an infectious-disease physician and hospital epidemiologist at Tufts Medical Center and co-author of the study. "Those patients who are there with rather than from COVID don’t belong in the metric.”
What does the study as a whole conclude? Again, in the words of The Atlantic: "...the study also demonstrates that hospitalization rates for COVID, as cited by journalists and policy makers, can be misleading, if not considered carefully."
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/pfizer-exec-calls-israel-a-sort-of-laboratory-for-covid-vaccines/
A top Pfizer executive has called Israel a “sort of laboratory” for the COVID vaccine in comments that were seized on by local anti-vaxxers, rejected by Israeli health officials, and later clarified by the pharmaceutical company.
Philip Dormitzer, the chief scientific officer at Pfizer, made the comments to a Zoom gathering of academics last week. They were first reported by Channel 12 news on Friday night.
“Early in the pandemic we established a relationship with the Israeli Ministry of Health where they used exclusively the Pfizer vaccine and then monitored it very closely,” Dormitzer told the gathering, “so we had a sort of laboratory where we could see the effect.”
He added that Israel “immunized a very high proportion of the population very early — so it’s been a way that we can almost look ahead: What we see happening in Israel happens again in the US a couple months later.”
On Sunday morning, Health Ministry Director General Nachman Ash rejected the claim that Israel had any sort of exclusive deal with Pfizer. “There is no exclusivity with Pfizer in any shape or form,” he told 103FM radio. “Currently, those over 18 who are getting vaccinated are prioritized to receive the Moderna vaccine.”
Ash said that Israel is “studying the statistics, and the world certainly learns from them, but I am not prepared to use the word ‘laboratory.’ Yes, the company is learning from us about the [effectiveness] of the third dose, but there is no connection to harming the interests of Israeli citizens.”
Israel was an early leader in COVID vaccinations after having cut a deal with Pfizer to receive a large number of vaccine doses before many other countries. It also purchased a smaller number of Moderna vaccines, which it began using more widely in July and August when its Pfizer stockpile neared expiration. Israel rolled out its vaccines rapidly to large portions of the population, vaccinating 50 percent of all residents by March, then began an unprecedented rollout of third booster shots in August. As of Sunday, more than 2.8 million people had received a third dose.
Prominent anti-vaccine activists both in Israel and around the world seized on Dormitzer’s comments over the weekend. Eldad Yaniv, a vocal critic of the government’s COVID approach, shared the Channel 12 report and said it provides further support for the decision of those Israelis “who do not agree to take part in the Pfizer experiment being operated in Israel.”
Others claimed that Dormitzer’s comments had been taken out of context and improperly translated and sensationalized by Channel 12. The Pfizer scientist did not say that Israel and Pfizer had an exclusive deal, but rather that Israel “used exclusively the Pfizer vaccine.” He also didn’t call Israel a laboratory but said its vaccine rollout provided an opportunity for “sort of a laboratory.”
Pfizer later clarified Dormitzer’s comments in a statement to Channel 12 news.
“Pfizer is aware of a video clip featuring an interview with one of our scientists who unfortunately misspoke on a key point we wish to clarify: We are grateful for the cooperation between Pfizer and the Israeli Health Ministry. It is not a clinical research study. This is a non-interventional ‘real world’ evidence data collection collaboration.”
The pharmaceutical company also noted that it had no exclusive deal with Israel and “the country does not serve as a laboratory, but rather, as the first nation to achieve significant rates of vaccine uptake, it was able to evaluate real world vaccine and duration of protection, and share data with the world.”
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If the sample contains SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen, it will react with the anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the blocker pad and conjugate pad and forms a sandwich complex that migrates up the test strip. As the complex continues to migrate up the test strip it encounters the Test (T) Zone and will react with the streptavidin immobilized on the nitrocellulose, a reddish-purple line will appear, qualitatively
indicating the presence of SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid antigen in the sample. The intensity of the line color is not directly proportional to the amount of antigen present in the sample. If the sample does not contain SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen, the sandwich complex will not form and the reagents will flow past the Test (T) Zone.
Further up the test strip, the sample will encounter the Control (C) Zone. This is a built-in procedural control which
serves to demonstrate that the fluid migrated through the test device. For negative results and most positive results a
line will form at the Control (C) Zone. In some cases when viral levels are high, the line at the Control Zone may be
very faint or may not be present.
Wow. I'm impressed. You sound just like Mikey. ;)
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/new-study-suggests-almost-half-all-covid-hospitalizations-january-june-had-mild-or
So they’re lying to us.
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If the sample contains SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen, it will react with the anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the blocker pad and conjugate pad and forms a sandwich complex that migrates up the test strip. As the complex continues to migrate up the test strip it encounters the Test (T) Zone and will react with the streptavidin immobilized on the nitrocellulose, a reddish-purple line will appear, qualitatively
indicating the presence of SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid antigen in the sample. The intensity of the line color is not directly proportional to the amount of antigen present in the sample. If the sample does not contain SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein antigen, the sandwich complex will not form and the reagents will flow past the Test (T) Zone.
Further up the test strip, the sample will encounter the Control (C) Zone. This is a built-in procedural control which
serves to demonstrate that the fluid migrated through the test device. For negative results and most positive results a
line will form at the Control (C) Zone. In some cases when viral levels are high, the line at the Control Zone may be
very faint or may not be present.
Oh.
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So they’re lying to us.
This has been the case all along (the lies and the real hospitalizations)
Fall and break an arm and go to the hospital? They Covid test you, and if you test positive, you are a “Covid hospitalization” even though you have zero symptoms and your reason to be there is the broke arm.
Same with Covid death counts. All over inflated.
We’ve been played.
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This has been the case all along (the lies and the real hospitalizations)
Fall and break an arm and go to the hospital? They Covid test you, and if you test positive, you are a “Covid hospitalization” even though you have zero symptoms and your reason to be there is the broke arm.
Same with Covid death counts. All over inflated.
We’ve been played.
The really scary part is more than 50% of the population believes the lies. Many to the extreme.
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https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-unmistakable-ivermectin-miracle-in-the-indian-state-of-uttar-pradesh
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This has been the case all along (the lies and the real hospitalizations)
Fall and break an arm and go to the hospital? They Covid test you, and if you test positive, you are a “Covid hospitalization” even though you have zero symptoms and your reason to be there is the broke arm.
Same with Covid death counts. All over inflated.
We’ve been played.
So when we hear “all the hospital beds are filled with covid cases so we don’t have room for anybody else so everybody else is going untreated”, what is really happening is everybody else is getting treated they are just being called covid cases, so the hospital can get more covid money. Is that what’s going on? Has anyone tried to confirm all the broken legs and appendicitis cases that are going untreated because the hospital is full of covid patients?
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So when we hear “all the hospital beds are filled with covid cases so we don’t have room for anybody else so everybody else is going untreated”, what is really happening is everybody else is getting treated they are just being called covid cases, so the hospital can get more covid money. Is that what’s going on? Has anyone tried to confirm all the broken legs and appendicitis cases that are going untreated because the hospital is full of covid patients?
FWIW, the people working in the local hospitals have told me that they are having a lot of vaccine injuries taking up beds, yet those get classified as "covid hospitalizations". They also say they are getting over run by people who have a sniffle or stuffy nose who run to the emergency room because of media fear.
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Don't remember if I posted this here or not. As of last Friday my wife tested positive, results gotten on Sunday. She also tested at a Walgreens drive thru on Sunday and that was positive also Her symptoms through all of it were sore throat, then runny nose and sneezing. We got her tested on Friday because she added in taste and smell to the symptoms. The other symptoms started very early in the week if not before.
I didn't have her isolate and we've lived fairly normally since other than not going out anywhere. When we went thru the Walgreens drive in on Sunday I asked if they had any in-home kits in stock. The had one left, so I bought it. I hung on to it until this morning. I have had zero symptoms all this time. I tested this morning and tested negative.
The kit has two tests in it and she will test with it on Thursday or Friday. My DIL may be having here cancer surgery on Friday in Jacksonville, FL and we want to be down there, but will not go until my wife tests negative. CDC actually says she could mingle now as she's been symptom for days now.
The line by the "C" means I was negative, a line by the "T" would have meant positive.
Best wishes and prayers for your Daughter in Law, Eppy. Cancer sucks.
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Best wishes and prayers for your Daughter in Law, Eppy. Cancer sucks.
Ditto.
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Best wishes and prayers for your Daughter in Law, Eppy. Cancer sucks.
And ditto from me too.
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I'm not saying I'm happy with the politics behind the need for the change, but the change itself makes sense.
Since virtually NO vaccine is 100% effective, the term "immunity is" not appropriate. The term "Protection" is more appropriate.
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Cyanide and Happiness today.
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I'm not saying I'm happy with the politics behind the need for the change, but the change itself makes sense.
Since virtually NO vaccine is 100% effective, the term "immunity is" not appropriate. The term "Protection" is more appropriate.
Yes, let's keep moving the goalpost and rewriting everything to maintain a narrative.
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Quoting POS mikey I see…
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Ultimate goal... Vaccination: the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce obedience to a specific political party.
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I'm not saying I'm happy with the politics behind the need for the change, but the change itself makes sense.
Since virtually NO vaccine is 100% effective, the term "immunity is" not appropriate. The term "Protection" is more appropriate.
How about partial immunity. It’s still your immune system resisting the disease.
My neighbor is getting over covid, I don’t know if she was vaccinated but I suspect that she was not. Her symptoms were all in her head… literally. Headache, stuffy nose and ears. She had severe pressure in her ears and sinuses. The past two days I have had stuffy feelings in my right ear, like the Eustachian tube keeps malfunctioning. Also my usual allergic rhinorrhea that I’ve had for five decades is continuing. Maybe I have covid! And since I’m vaccinated I am having very minor symptoms. That’s partial immunity.
Differential Dx:
* Allergic rhinorrhea causing ear symptoms
* Atmospheric pressure changes due to TS Nicholas passing literally directly over me the past couple days.
* Psychosomatic, all in my imagination triggered because my neighbor is sick
* Maybe some cold or flu other than covid?
* An insect is trapped in my ear
* A brain tumor!
Do I need to go to the ER and get tested for covid?
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Saw my rheumatologist on Monday for one of my periodic checkups. Near the end she asked about my vaccination status and when I said I had the second dose in March she said I was eligible for a booster. I believe that is because boosters are recommended for anyone who is immunocompromised. (One of the medications I take (Methotrexate) works by suppressing the immune system.) I declined since there isn’t a lot of evidence for boosters and I already suffered one possible vaccine side effect that might (unknown probability) be made worse by a booster.
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No booster for me. I'm waiting on the vaccine pump to be introduced.
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https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographicsovertime
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/09/how_bad_is_covid_now_a_tale_of_two_charts.html
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Still think this is about public health?
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1438118967915290630
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Still think this is about public health?
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1438118967915290630 (https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1438118967915290630)
Can't find anything that confirms this.
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Can't find anything that confirms this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/14/monoclonal-antibodies-shortage/
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This is no different than what they did with masks, etc at the start of the pandemic. The items were in short supply, so the govt took control of distribution to apply it evenly.
I thought it was stupid then and I think it’s stupid now. But if you’re complaining about govt overreach, you’re way too late on this.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/14/monoclonal-antibodies-shortage/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/14/monoclonal-antibodies-shortage/)
Thanks. Last week my wife got a message from her doctor saying they were offering monoclonal treatment at the office. I believe it said four injections over an hour, then an hour wait after.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/new-missouri-covid-whistleblower-hospitals-lying-public-covid-can-prove/
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I was surprised to see an article today (16 Sept) in the Boston Herald (paper, I don't have a url). It talked about how there has been a significnat decrease in covid detected in the sewerage and suggested that we are past a peak.
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I was surprised to see an article today (16 Sept) in the Boston Herald (paper, I don't have a url). It talked about how there has been a significnat decrease in covid detected in the sewerage and suggested that we are past a peak.
Shhhh don’t tell anybody. It doesn’t support panic and hysteria. People might get the idea they don’t need the $vax. People might get the idea they have a right to return to normal.
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Shhhh don’t tell anybody. It doesn’t support panic and hysteria. People might get the idea they don’t need the $vax. People might get the idea they have a right to return to normal.
See now why the regime is doubling down on mandates? I mean, other than using the mandates as a diversion from the Afghanistan debacle?
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https://pjmedia.com/columns/victor-davis-hanson/2021/09/16/the-death-of-science-n1479221
The Death of Science
The scientific method used to govern much of popular American thinking.
In empirical fashion, scientists advised us to examine evidence and data, and then by induction come to rational hypotheses. The enemies of “science” were politics, superstition, bias and deduction.
Yet we are now returning to our version of medieval alchemy and astrology in rejecting a millennium of the scientific method.
Take the superstitions that now surround COVID-19.
We now know from data that a prior case of COVID-19 offers immunity as robust as vaccination. Why, then, are Joe Biden’s proposed vaccination mandates ignoring that scientific fact? Dr. Anthony Fauci, when asked, seemed at a loss for words.
Is this yet another of the scientific community’s Platonic “noble lies,” as when Fauci assured the public last year that there was no need for masks? He later claimed he had lied so that medical professionals would not run out of needed supplies.
Fauci also threw out mythical percentages needed for herd immunity, apparently in an attempt to convince the public that it will never be safe until every American is protected from COVID-19 by vaccination only.
And why was it that hard for the scientific community to postulate a likely origin of COVID-19? Some of the very scientists engaged in gain-of-function research oversaw an investigation with Chinese authorities. They confirmed the predetermined conclusion that the virus likely had little to do with gain-of-function engineering. And they saw little proof it was birthed in a Wuhan virology lab. Yet scientific opinion, emerging evidence and basic logic have suggested the opposite.
How can the government hector citizens that they have a moral duty — and soon a legal obligation — to be vaccinated when it does not mandate vaccinations for unvetted refugees flying in from Afghanistan?
How can the government medical community remain largely silent when an anticipated 2 million foreign nationals will cross into the United States in the current fiscal year — almost none of whom are vaccinated or tested for COVID-19?
Why do the media and government blame particular races for the delta variant outbreak on grounds that they were insufficiently vaccinated? Why wouldn’t officials simply urge the Latino and Black communities to be vaccinated as quickly as possible? Data shows that both groups have lower vaccination rates than white and Asian populations.
Are woke political agendas discrediting science and losing public health?
We saw just that in June 2020, when more than 1,200 “health care professionals” signed a petition demanding exemptions from lockdowns and quarantines for Black Lives Matter protesters marching en masse. And they concocted medical excuses such as “vital to the national public health” to insist that violating quarantines was less unhealthy than not pouring into the streets.
Why did presidential candidate Joe Biden and his running mate, Kamala Harris, warn the American people on the eve of vaccination rollouts that an inoculation under the Trump administration could be unsafe, thereby undermining confidence in vaccines?
Why was the medical community largely silent about such dangerous sabotaging of new vaccines, but months later became vociferous in warning the public that any doubts about the safety of these Operation Warp Speed vaccinations were scientifically misplaced? Was there a medical breakthrough on Jan. 20, 2020, to alter their consensus?
From rewarding wokeness in medical school admissions to the peer-reviewing of scientific papers, the anti-scientific mania has polluted scientific endeavors.
“Critical race theory” would preposterously tell us that we need racism to fight racism.
“Critical legal theory” ludicrously claims that laws have no rational basis but simply reflect power inequities.
“Modern monetary theory” defies millennia of evidence and basic logic in stating that governments can simply print money without worrying about balancing expenditures with revenues or inflating the currency to ruination.
Corporations are now asked to substitute a new woke agenda theory — “Environmental, Social and Corporate Governance (ESG)” — in lieu of market realities, rules of investment and economic data.
Science is dying; superstition disguised as morality is returning. And we’ll all soon become poorer, angrier and more divided.
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I was surprised to see an article today (16 Sept) in the Boston Herald (paper, I don't have a url). It talked about how there has been a significnat decrease in covid detected in the sewerage and suggested that we are past a peak.
I saw that several weeks ago. I'm surprised they were able to bury it this long.
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Still think it's about health?
Xiden doesn't think these "new citizens" need to be vaxxed.
https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1438488795398250500?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1438489399902212100%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fphoto-of-the-day-8000-illegal-invaders-living-underneath-texas-bridge%2F
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So according to my liberal friends the new mantra isn't the science is settled. It's science is finding the truth and when science changes, scientists didn't lie, they just learned more. And if you aren't a scientist and you disagree with scientists, you are wrong.
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Yea, Galileo Galilei was imprisoned for not following "the science".
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Think of where we are. The vaccination mandate is being done on purpose to create and even worse crisis than they claim we have now. As nurses and doctors refuse to get vaccinated and lose their jobs, we will indeed have a crisis that will be blamed on those individuals, "all they had to do was get vaccinated"
We are beyond fucked at this point. Say a sad good bye to the U.S. of A. China has won.
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Still think any of this is about public health?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/democrats-reject-plan-to-mandate-coronavirus-vaccines-for-immigrants/
House Democrats rejected a plan this week that would have required immigrants to the United States to take one of three available Chinese coronavirus vaccines despite mandates on American citizens from President Joe Biden’s administration.
Last week, Biden ordered that the Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) develop a rule requiring all private companies with 100 or more employees to mandate the vaccine or be subjected to weekly coronavirus tests.
Biden also ordered the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) to require vaccines for all health care workers who work at facilities receiving federal Medicare or Medicaid funding.
As Breitbart News reported, Biden has seemingly not imposed any such vaccine requirements on border crossers, illegal aliens, legal immigrants, or Afghan refugees who are arriving in the U.S.
During a hearing for the Democrats’ $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) proposed an amendment that would require the vaccine for foreign nationals in the U.S. who are seeking to adjust their immigration status to remain in the U.S.
Every Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee opposed the vaccine mandate for immigrants while every Republican supported the measure.
Those Democrats include:
Reps. Jerry Nadler (D-NY), Madeleine Dean (D-PA), Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), Steve Cohen (D-TN), Hank Johnson (D-GA), Theodore Deutch (D-FL), Karen Bass (D-CA), Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), David Cicilline (D-RI), Eric Swalwell (D-CA), Ted Lieu (D-CA), Jamie Raskin (D-MD), Pramila Jayapal (D-WA), Val Demings (D-FL), Luis Correa (D-CA), Mary Scanlon (D-PA), Sylvia Garcia (D-TX), Joe Neguse (D-CO), Lucy McBath (D-GA), Greg Stanton (D-AZ), Veronica Escobar (D-TX), Mondaire Jones (D-NY), Deborah Ross (D-NC), Cori Bush (D-MO)
“The American people are more than aware that President Biden is mandating vaccines for Americans while exempting those illegally flooding our borders and being released into our communities without notice,” Issa said. “And they want the hypocrisy to end.”
The lack of a vaccine requirement specifically for Afghans arriving as part of Biden’s massive resettlement operation comes as outbreaks of the coronavirus and measles have occurred at various U.S. military bases where refugees are temporarily staying.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has yet to respond to an inquiry by Breitbart News asking for clarification on the agency’s vaccine policy for arriving Afghans.
Also this week, Democrats similarly rejected amendments that would have stripped their massive amnesty for illegal aliens plan out of the budget reconciliation. Democrats even went as far as to open the amnesty to illegal aliens who are registered sex offenders, convicted drunk drivers, and gang members.
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https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1438564518771179520
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https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1438589549974892550
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Now HHS is controlling how much and who gets Rengeneron. They own all the supply and are in the process of punishing Florida because DeSantis got out on front by setting up his monoclonal treatment centers. DeSantis is now working on alternate suppliers, hopefully before the Feds buy up those also.
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https://twitter.com/CarmineSabia/status/1438517145709604865
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Now HHS is controlling how much and who gets Rengeneron. They own all the supply and are in the process of punishing Florida because DeSantis got out on front by setting up his monoclonal treatment centers. DeSantis is now working on alternate suppliers, hopefully before the Feds buy up those also.
The democrat communist are terrified of DeSantis, and are afraid that what DeSantis has done with eliminating covid restrictions and promoting alternatives will make people in other states take notice, and the DC start losing control of the narrative.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/new-biden-goes-nuclear-republican-governors-healthcare-singles-florida-texas-govs-savage-tweet-slashing-delivery-lifesaving-covid-treatment-states/
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/16/white-house-attempts-to-justify-withholding-monoclonal-antibody-treatments-from-florida-and-red-states-fails-miserably/
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One day soon the headlines will read:
US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to CLOSE DUE TO UNMANAGEABLE DEBT...
Unable to print enough money to fund spending, DC to go bankrupt this coming Tuesday night at midnight.
Establishment Washington OUTRAGED to discover being liberal doesn't mean you never have to pay your bills.
Biden blames Trump. "If former president Washington had never chopped down that cherry tree we wouldn't be in this position, but Trump was too
distracted sending out mean tweets to do the right thing!" Speaking from bedside at the Potomac Hills Old Age Home, memory care unit, Biden reminds voters that he is still in complete charge and that the funding crisis will be solved thru stronger COVID regulations imposed on working Americans.
Mitt Romney Complains: "There is nothing in the current budget that would point to such a draconian outcome as shutting down the entire federal government.
Clearly we need a Bipartisan senate committee created to focus on this crisis." Former presidential candidate reminds voters that he was for reasonable spending before he was for anything that sounded good.
Al Sharpton releases statement: "Resist We MUCH!!! This is a racist initiative designed to disenfranchise black people, by forcing them to work for their wages."
Civil Rights activist promises to focus on solutions from his mansions in NY, Saint Louis, Los Angeles, Miami, and the Italian Riviera.
Ignoring the fact that the ENTIRE federal branch will be out of business come WEDS morning, Sharpton promises: "We must protest this terrible blow against people of color.
We PROMISED blacks that whitey would support them forever, and I will take this fight all the way to the US Supreme Court!"
Nancy Pelosi speaking from her kitchen, alongside her her brand new, $45,000 refrigerator, complete with thousands of dollars worth of Ben and Jerry's ice cream, said, "We will not accept the demise of the Federal Government due to something as little as a total revenue collapse. Congress will immediately begin work on a bail-out bill that will give TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS to every person - citizen, or not - in the USA, provided they are properly vaccinated, registered democrat, allow us to cast their votes for them into perpetuity, and post on their facebook page that Black Lives Matter, and all 32 genders are created equal."
Former President Donald Trump, speaking from his home in Mar-a-largo, Florida, said, "America was a great idea, begun by really, really great people. Unfortunately, the current crop of congressmen and senators are just plain dumb, and couldn't be trusted to row a plastic children's boat across a kiddie pool, much less manage a multi-trillion dollar budget. My heart breaks for working Americans who will suffer in the coming days as fifty separate states attempt to organize and survive what will be a very bad time in our history."
Chuck Schumer, self-declared senator for life, immediately condemned Trump's statement as, "riddled with racism, fascism, homophobia, islamaphobia, sexism, and just plain mean-ism."the senator then demanded that congress begin impeachment proceedings against the former president immediately.
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, speaking about the untimely hospitalization of current chief justice John Roberts, for uncontrolled cowardice, said, "Economists, as well as conservative voices in government and industry have warned of the coming economic collapse of the Federal Government. Now that it is here, maybe the left will start to pay attention to the realities of income as it relates to debt."
Congressman Adam Shiff responded to the Justice by saying: "It is utterly racist to connect the ability to pay to the obligations of debt. Clarence Thomas is clearly just another uncle tom, racist, enemy of the state, and should not be quoted, heard, or allowed to participate in public life."
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Again, tell me this is about public health.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/16/florida-landlord-plans-evict-people-refuse-coronavirus-jab/
A Florida landlord who owns eight apartment complexes totaling 1,200 units has given his tenants an ultimatum: get the Chinese coronavirus vaccine or get out.
Santiago A. Alvarez, 80, who mostly owns properties in Miami-Dade and Broward counties, told his employees and new tenants they must be able to show proof of vaccination by August 15. Those who already live in the building must get vaccinated if they wish to renew their leases.
“We have to be concerned about our tenants and our employees. All of these are private properties. We’re just trying to keep people safe and healthy. It’s going to cost us money, but we’re very firm on that,” Alvarez told Florida’s Sun-Sentinel after 15 of his tenants died in the pandemic.
Whether the move is legal is another matter entirely. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) signed a bill this year that bans businesses, educational institutions, and government entities from requiring vaccine passports. The rule went into effect on Thursday and will be enforced by the Florida Department of Health.
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Again, tell me this is about public health.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/16/florida-landlord-plans-evict-people-refuse-coronavirus-jab/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/16/florida-landlord-plans-evict-people-refuse-coronavirus-jab/)
This ought to make a great court case.
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This ought make a great court case.
Look for more and more of this to start happening. The DC's are becoming intoxicated with power, and just like this asswipe with the apartments, will try using any and every avenue to impose their new tyranny.
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https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Fulltext/2021/08000/Ivermectin_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.7.aspx
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More lies
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10000899/A-QUARTER-NHS-beds-taken-Covid-patients-primarily-treated-reasons.html
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This should get interesting
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/15/un-general-assembly-covid-vaccine-russia-new-york
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I really like it when you post all those links with no comment as to why I should click on it. It make skimming the posts so much faster.
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I really like it when you post all those links with no comment as to why I should click on it. It make skimming the posts so much faster.
I don’t give a fuck what you do, or what you read. Quit being such a crybaby.
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I don’t give a fuck what you do, or what you read. Quit being such a crybaby.
See. That was much better. It told me what YOU think.
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See. That was much better. It told me what YOU think.
I get what you're saying but I assume he's in support of the article's conclusions as he posted it. Yes a brief statement is sometimes helpful but not all of us have the time to do so. Don't want to speak for The Prince of Darkness for obvious retribution possibilities which are almost endless. ;D
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I get what you're saying but I assume he's in support of the article's conclusions as he posted it. Yes a brief statement is sometimes helpful but not all of us have the time to do so. Don't want to speak for The Prince of Darkness for obvious retribution possibilities which are almost endless. ;D
Speaking of the PoD I just finished the last season of “Lucifer” which just came out. It became insufferably woke, even used the word “woke” in dialogue. I’m pretty sure they changed the planned script and added all that stuff. Last year there was a trailer out that had some new character that looked like Jesus but that trailer has vanished from the internet. I think some time in 2020 they took out a whole subplot and replaced it with one about police brutality and racism. They also have a gay wedding (not that there’s anything wrong with that) and a bunch of drag queens and alleged sexism. I watch fiction to escape sanctimonious lecturing, not to subject myself to more of it. This past year it has gone into overdrive in real life.
Just to be clear I have no problem with shows addressing these subjects organically. Everybody here that knows me knows for example how much I advocate for gays, or that I have huge problems with police corruption. My problem is with the transformation of a show that had nothing to do with these subjects into a platform for current political activism. For example, in season 1 Maze is straight. By season 6 suddenly she’s gay. That is not smooth character development.
If I want political preaching instead of an intelligent construction of a good storyline I can find it everywhere in real life. If I want intelligent and informative nonfiction or fiction about gays or the problems with police these days I can find it. What I don’t want is prepackaged dogma stuck in the middle of a series for the undisguised purpose of leveraging current events to stoke emotion for an activist agenda.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/trust-dont-want-fully-vaccinated-comedian-chris-rock-tests-positive-covid-tells-people-get-vaccinated/
When a fully vaccinated person gets Covid, it’s ‘proof the vaccines work.’
When an unvaccinated person gets Covid, they are mocked and told they are sick because they didn’t get vaxxed.
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https://twitter.com/LATiffani1/status/1439702460503715845
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wait, if that's before the cameras arrive, how did they get that picture?
I'm so confused...
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wait, if that's before the cameras arrive, how did they get that picture?
I'm so confused...
People have these devices now......called smart phones.......and get this! They have cameras in them!!!
Seriously, check it out.
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https://twitter.com/Source_33_/status/1438621519714869249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1438621519714869249%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fmeanwhile-in-el-salvador%2F
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https://twitter.com/Source_33_/status/1438621519714869249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1438621519714869249%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fmeanwhile-in-el-salvador%2F
They’re doing it right! However I would like to see data on the effectiveness in El Salvador.
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The 2021 Emmys. Elites go maskless, the hired help, nope.
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They’re doing it right! However I would like to see data on the effectiveness in El Salvador.
Agreed. I’m guessing it would greatly reduce hospitalizations.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/trust-dont-want-fully-vaccinated-comedian-chris-rock-tests-positive-covid-tells-people-get-vaccinated/
Well, he IS a comedian.
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2nd shot today. Waiting to see if I have any issues after this one. My pharmacist said to let her know right away if there is and she will report it to VAERS.
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The 2021 Emmys. Elites go maskless, the hired help, nope.
They are sophisticated. They are elites. Their rules do not apply to the peasants.
Still think this has anything to do with public health?
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2nd shot today. Waiting to see if I have any issues after this one. My pharmacist said to let her know right away if there is and she will report it to VAERS.
Was the first one reported?
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The 2021 Emmys. Elites go maskless, the hired help, nope.
Right, tell me it's not a status mark.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/emmy-viewers-call-out-celebs-not-wearing-masks-social-distancing
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Was the first one reported?
Not that I know of. Hospital blew it off as non specific chest pains. I could always self report it, and I might when I get a few minutes to do it
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2nd shot today. Waiting to see if I have any issues after this one. My pharmacist said to let her know right away if there is and she will report it to VAERS.
I’m sure you’re looking forward to the 3rd booster, and the 4th, and the 5th, and…
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I’m sure you’re looking forward to the 3rd booster, and the 4th, and the 5th, and…
It will be so sweet to not need to wear the mask…
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It will be so sweet to not need to wear the mask…
Oh, I don't care. I'll continue to wear my mask as an armband to show my allegiance to and support of The Party. The Party that has given me everything. Proud to be a Fasco-Communist.
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Wow! This is amazing. All foreigners entering the country must be fully vaccinated or they will be turned away. This will certainly stop all the chaos at the border.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/politics/biden-administration-international-travel-restrictions/index.html
The new rules will require all foreign nationals arriving in the United States to show proof of being fully vaccinated, the White House Covid-19 response coordinator Jeff Zients said. He said the new rules would take effect in early November, a timeline that will give agencies and airlines "time to prepare."
Oh wait. It's only on Europeans. Never mind.
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Right, tell me it's not a status mark.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/emmy-viewers-call-out-celebs-not-wearing-masks-social-distancing
I just saw what Seth Rogen said, guess he will not be getting much work for a while.
Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
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Wow! This is amazing. All foreigners entering the country must be fully vaccinated or they will be turned away. This will certainly stop all the chaos at the border.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/20/politics/biden-administration-international-travel-restrictions/index.htmlOh wait. It's only on Europeans. Never mind.
I read that damn article six times and still cannot tell to whom it applies. Plus, it says at the bottom that the article has been updated, but not how.
And CNN adherents vote. Obfuscatory journalism should repulse us all. But no.
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I just saw what Seth Rogen said, guess he will not be getting much work for a while.
Sent from my iPad . Squirrel!!
Surely he knew what he was doing, like Ricky Gervais when he lambasted the attendees at some ceremony, I think it might have been the Oscars.
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https://www.projectveritas.com/news/federal-govt-whistleblower-goes-public-with-secret-recordings-government/ (https://www.projectveritas.com/news/federal-govt-whistleblower-goes-public-with-secret-recordings-government/)
Project Veritas
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https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1440121443212140551?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1440121443212140551%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fthe-vaccine-isnt-working-in-bermuda-check-the-chart%2F
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https://twitter.com/Source_33_/status/1438621519714869249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1438621519714869249%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fmeanwhile-in-el-salvador%2F
The Covid treatment in the US seems totally reactive, and not proactive.
I can’t believe doctors aren’t rebelling.
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The Covid treatment in the US seems totally reactive, and not proactive.
I can’t believe doctors aren’t rebelling.
Follow the money.
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The Covid treatment in the US seems totally reactive, and not proactive.
I can’t believe doctors aren’t rebelling.
It's criminal. My cousin just spent 5 days in the hospital from covid. She got sick 2 weeks ago. Got positive test. Had 2 trips to the ER and they sent her home each time. Finally her sister (my other cousin the nurse who I mentioned earlier in my ER visit) took her in, and pulled her strings to get her admitted. It developed into covid pneumonia at that point. She was on oxygen, iv meds for the pneumonia, and meds to prevent blood clots (which would probably would have killed her at that point). So instead of trying to cure the covid at the first ER visit, they sent her home with nothing more that flu meds and pretty much told her to hope it doesn't get worse.
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It's criminal. My cousin just spent 5 days in the hospital from covid. She got sick 2 weeks ago. Got positive test. Had 2 trips to the ER and they sent her home each time. Finally her sister (my other cousin the nurse who I mentioned earlier in my ER visit) took her in, and pulled her strings to get her admitted. It developed into covid pneumonia at that point. She was on oxygen, iv meds for the pneumonia, and meds to prevent blood clots (which would probably would have killed her at that point). So instead of trying to cure the covid at the first ER visit, they sent her home with nothing more that flu meds and pretty much told her to hope it doesn't get worse.
If she’d been in El Salvador she’d have been given Ivermectin from the get go.
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There really is no cure for COVID (Ivermectin doesn't do a damn thing, sorry) nor is there anything a hospital can do except monitor. Steroids can have a good effect, but that's to tamp down an out of control immune system, and does naught to the virus. There is a drug against the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase, but it's yet to show any real efficacy. Viruses are difficult, and the number of true antiviral drugs is not large.
Were the hospitals not all completely full of COVID patients they might have admitted the patient in question to be careful, but hospitals are full. The other day no hospitals in Lucas County were taking patients from ambulances, none. If you were taking someone in an ambulance you had to go outside of Lucas country, and there aren't many hospitals in the styx.
The latest outbreak is both bad and scary. If it's this bad during the good weather, how bad will it be when the weather turns cold and we're all shut up in doors? I can only hope the virus has burned through the population leaving a lot of immunity in its wake. There was a time I had been thinking of joining the medical profession. I am now SO glad I didn't.
Believe it or not I really worry about all of you. I suspect we're all old enough to be at risk for a nasty COVID infection, and I really worry about the unvaccinated. Do be careful. Despite whatever you read, COVID is real and it's dangerous.
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(Ivermectin doesn't do a damn thing, sorry)
You keep saying that ignoring the evidence that says differently.
This is a major reason you have zero credibility as a scientist. You choose ideology over science. You follow "the science" rather than being objective.
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https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
Once again the good "doctor" is wrong.
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Were the hospitals not all completely full of COVID patients they might have admitted the patient in question to be careful, but hospitals are full.
Why is it that the methodology of counting actual people sick with the scamdemic keeps being changed by the very same assholes who think the science is settled???
It is so curious that the same clown that keeps babbling about the dangers of covid and the wondrous miracle of vaccinating, keeps tripping over his own bullshit.
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You keep saying that ignoring the evidence that says differently.
This is a major reason you have zero credibility as a scientist. You choose ideology over science. You follow "the science" rather than being objective.
Every time Steingar gives his opinion that ivermectin doesn't work, I'm reminded of Alexander Fleming. His discovery that penicillin kills bacteria was discarded by other doctors and scientists for years. Yet in the end penicillin has treated millions, possibly billions, of people. If covid is so dangerous, then why are possible cures being discounted? We should be throwing every possible drug at it in tests to see what works and doesn't. Could it be that politics and money has a bigger role in covid treatment than possible life saving drugs?
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Every time Steingar gives his opinion that ivermectin doesn't work, I'm reminded of Alexander Fleming. His discovery that penicillin kills bacteria was discarded by other doctors and scientists for years. Yet in the end penicillin has treated millions, possibly billions, of people. If covid is so dangerous, then why are possible cures being discounted? We should be throwing every possible drug at it in tests to see what works and doesn't. Could it be that politics and money has a bigger role in covid treatment than possible life saving drugs?
Follow the money. Pope Tony didn't spend millions and millions of your tax dollars on the Chinese for nothing.
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https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
Once again the good "doctor" is wrong.
I posted up a metastudy done for a very reputable journal and I'm done arguing. If Ivermectin did what they said steroids could do it ten times better. Heck NSAIDS could do it too. You guys read something in Fox News and decide it has to be the truth. I follow the literature.
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I posted up a metastudy done for a very reputable journal and I'm done arguing. If Ivermectin did what they said steroids could do it ten times better. Heck NSAIDS could do it too. You guys read something in Fox News and decide it has to be the truth. I follow the literature.
You follow the narrative and a fucked up ideology. You're a fraud.
BTW, you seem a bit more sober today. Just coming off a binge?
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I posted up a metastudy done for a very reputable journal and I'm done arguing. If Ivermectin did what they said steroids could do it ten times better. Heck NSAIDS could do it too. You guys read something in Fox News and decide it has to be the truth. I follow the literature.
You always bitch about if it's not in a peer reviewed journal, it doesn't mean shit. Yet here I link a peer reviewed journal, and you dismiss it as fox news propaganda. And you wonder why people are questioning the medical and scientific community.
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.. but hospitals are full.
maybe in your neck of the woods. In maskachusetts, patients with covid-19 account for less than 10% of the patients.
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Michael chooses to ignore the fact that many states are now on the back side of the curve.
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Michael chooses to ignore the fact that many states are now on the back side of the curve.
Maybe. There have been wild swings in a lot of states and it's not clear that it's on the decline except in a few states - Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina. Texas, North Carolina, and Tennessee are maybes, they look close to peaking. Everywhere else it is going up.
If you count all 9 of those, I'm not convinced the word "many" is the right thing to describe them.
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https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
Once again the good "doctor" is wrong.
Thank you for that link.
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There really is no cure for COVID (Ivermectin doesn't do a damn thing, sorry) nor is there anything a hospital can do except monitor. Steroids can have a good effect, but that's to tamp down an out of control immune system, and does naught to the virus. There is a drug against the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase, but it's yet to show any real efficacy. Viruses are difficult, and the number of true antiviral drugs is not large.
Were the hospitals not all completely full of COVID patients they might have admitted the patient in question to be careful, but hospitals are full. The other day no hospitals in Lucas County were taking patients from ambulances, none. If you were taking someone in an ambulance you had to go outside of Lucas country, and there aren't many hospitals in the styx.
The latest outbreak is both bad and scary. If it's this bad during the good weather, how bad will it be when the weather turns cold and we're all shut up in doors? I can only hope the virus has burned through the population leaving a lot of immunity in its wake. There was a time I had been thinking of joining the medical profession. I am now SO glad I didn't.
Believe it or not I really worry about all of you. I suspect we're all old enough to be at risk for a nasty COVID infection, and I really worry about the unvaccinated. Do be careful. Despite whatever you read, COVID is real and it's dangerous.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Follow the money.
Doctors generally don’t individually benefit from the cost of medications. Hospital groups certainly do, but I can’t believe that a hospital group sending directives down to physicians wouldn’t be leaked by someone. Something else is afoot.
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Doctors generally don’t individually benefit from the cost of medications. Hospital groups certainly do, but I can’t believe that a hospital group sending directives down to physicians wouldn’t be leaked by someone. Something else is afoot.
Maybe they want to keep their jobs.
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So.... Steingar is a cockwomble?
Good to know what to call him when posts drunk later today.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/uk-scientists-warn-covid-will-likely-resemble-common-cold-next-spring
At this point in the pandemic, most readers have probably heard that COVID will likely remain endemic in the human population, like the cold or the flu.
And as we prepare for the second flu season (in the northern hemisphere, at least), more scientists (and, increasingly, politicians) are realizing that they're going to need to embrace a change in messaging - messaging that, at one time, might have left them vulnerable to accusations of being an "anti-vaxxer".
We're of course referring to the notion that COVID will stick around and become a regular illness, like the flu or the common cold.
Australia has finally acknowledged that its government's commitment to "ZeroCOVID" simply didn't make sense, and abandoned it. In the US, the vast majority of people who haven't been vaccinated probably wouldn't get the jab if you offered to pay them (which, incidentally, New York City and several other states and cities have tried to do).
Fortunately, as humanity's resistance to the virus grows, the danger that COVID poses should continue to wane. A pair of scientists discussed this phenomenon in a recent story with Sky News. Both suggested that, by Springtime, COVID could be like a "cold or mild flu" for most people.
hared a slightly more optimistic take, claiming COVID will become like the common cold by next Spring.
Professor Sir John Bell, religious professor of medicine at Oxford University, said the virus could resemble the common cold by spring next year as people's immunity to the virus is boosted by both vaccines AND natural exposure.
He added the country "is over the worst" and things "should be fine" once winter has passed, adding that there was continued exposure to the virus even in people who are vaccinated.
Bell's comments followed a similar remark from Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert, one of the UK's most high-profile figures who helped develop the Astra-Zeneca jab. Gilbert said a few days ago that there's evidence that the population is developing greater immunity levels as time goes on and more are infected and vaccinated. She also played down fears about another new hyper-virulent variant.
Asked about Gilbert's comment, John said: "If you look at the trajectory we're on, we're a lot better off than we were six months ago."
At the very least, the pressure on the yuan will abate.
"So the pressure on the NHS is largely abated. If you look at the deaths from COVID, they tend to be very elderly people, and it's not entirely clear it was COVID that caused all those deaths.
"So I think we're over the worst of it now and I think what will happen is, there will be quite a lot of background exposure to Delta," he added, saying the case numbers are quite high but those who have had two vaccines and are infected will still lead to stronger herd immunity".
Speaking at a Royal Society of Medicine webinar on Wednesday, Dame Gilbert said the most sensible scenario for COVID is that it will mutate to become less deadly for humans, making it more like the flu or cold, possibly by next year.
"We normally see that viruses become less virulent as they circulate more easily and there is no reason to think we will have a more virulent version of Sars-CoV-2," Dame Sarah said.
"It's just a question of how long it's going to take to get there and what measures we're going to have to take to manage it in the meantime."
In both cases, their remarks were a reactions a statement from England's chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty, who said this week that all children who had not been vaccinated would likely end up getting COVID. Most available data would suggest this is unlikely.
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Way to go Norway!
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/09/23/norway-reclassifies-covid-19-no-more-dangerous-than-ordinary-flu/
The Norwegian Institute of Public Health FHI has made the remarkable, but statistically supported, decision to classify Covid-19 as a respiratory disease that is as dangerous as the common flu. It is clarified that the pandemic is not over, but that it has entered a new phase where Covid-19 is now equated with a common respiratory disease, such as a flu or respiratory infection. This is done, among other things, due to the mutations that the Coronavirus has undergone, which makes it less dangerous, together with increased natural and vaccination-induced immunity that has been achieved in Norwegian society.
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Way to go Norway!
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/09/23/norway-reclassifies-covid-19-no-more-dangerous-than-ordinary-flu/
The Norwegian Institute of Public Health FHI has made the remarkable, but statistically supported, decision to classify Covid-19 as a respiratory disease that is as dangerous as the common flu. It is clarified that the pandemic is not over, but that it has entered a new phase where Covid-19 is now equated with a common respiratory disease, such as a flu or respiratory infection. This is done, among other things, due to the mutations that the Coronavirus has undergone, which makes it less dangerous, together with increased natural and vaccination-induced immunity that has been achieved in Norwegian society.
That's going to piss of flynn, steingar, and the pussy contingent.
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That's going to piss of flynn, steingar, and the pussy contingent.
I think it is great that Norway authorities have seen the light.
I think you are clueless because you constantly ascribe positions to other people before they’ve had a chance to make their positions known. You do it because it is the only way you can win an argument. (Not sure you’ll see what I did there.)
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not "win an argument"
rather "try to win..."
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Way to go Norway!
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/09/23/norway-reclassifies-covid-19-no-more-dangerous-than-ordinary-flu/
The Norwegian Institute of Public Health FHI has made the remarkable, but statistically supported, decision to classify Covid-19 as a respiratory disease that is as dangerous as the common flu. It is clarified that the pandemic is not over, but that it has entered a new phase where Covid-19 is now equated with a common respiratory disease, such as a flu or respiratory infection. This is done, among other things, due to the mutations that the Coronavirus has undergone, which makes it less dangerous, together with increased natural and vaccination-induced immunity that has been achieved in Norwegian society.
Dominos are slowly falling, hence why the Biden regime is trying to pump it for all it's worth.
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I think it is great that Norway authorities have seen the light.
I think you are clueless because you constantly ascribe positions to other people before they’ve had a chance to make their positions known. You do it because it is the only way you can win an argument. (Not sure you’ll see what I did there.)
And ki think you constantly try to pretend to be the voice of reason and centrism, while always indulging your ego and taking shots at people on the pretense of your make believe superiority.
In other words, you are mostly a stuck up poster, full of shit.
But your experience may vary.
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Way to go Norway!
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/09/23/norway-reclassifies-covid-19-no-more-dangerous-than-ordinary-flu/
The Norwegian Institute of Public Health FHI has made the remarkable, but statistically supported, decision to classify Covid-19 as a respiratory disease that is as dangerous as the common flu. It is clarified that the pandemic is not over, but that it has entered a new phase where Covid-19 is now equated with a common respiratory disease, such as a flu or respiratory infection. This is done, among other things, due to the mutations that the Coronavirus has undergone, which makes it less dangerous, together with increased natural and vaccination-induced immunity that has been achieved in Norwegian society.
I’d move there if it wasn’t so cold and dreary.
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I’d move there if it wasn’t so cold and dreary.
It can be cold and dreary, but the rest of the time it can be absolutely beautiful and amazing.
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This will anger the Branch Covidians as it’s heresy to question their religion.
https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/
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This will anger the Branch Covidians as it’s heresy to question their religion.
https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/
Wow, that’s a fantastic source of info, all in one place. I’ve seen most of it elsewhere but yes it is hard to pull it all together, especially since stuff gets scrubbed off the internet by biased “fact” checkers.
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Also highlights today's American society now seemingly (at least to the MEDIA) dominated by Woke, Bliss Ninny, Safety at all cost, Feminized Apparachiks.
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Wow, that’s a fantastic source of info, all in one place. I’ve seen most of it elsewhere but yes it is hard to pull it all together, especially since stuff gets scrubbed off the internet by biased “fact” checkers.
The Branch Covidians will loose their minds. Thou shall not speak ill of the devine sickness or the patron saint Pope Tony.
Wonder how long it will take the Branch Covidians to come up with their version of Sharia Law?