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Pilot Zone => Pilot Zone => Topic started by: PeterNSteinmetz on September 25, 2021, 02:52:13 PM

Title: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on September 25, 2021, 02:52:13 PM
I am happy to note that there is now a website with reviews of DPEs which have been gathered from around the web.

http://dpereviews.org

Please let me know what you think.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 12:03:22 PM
I am happy to note that there is now a website with reviews of DPEs which have been gathered from around the web.

http://dpereviews.org

Please let me know what you think.

Could be a decent resource, taken with the usual grains of salt.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on September 26, 2021, 12:24:59 PM
Could be a decent resource, taken with the usual grains of salt.

Yes, definitely. As it says on the site, these are the opinions of varied people on the web. As usual with such data, it tends to be biased to the extremes -- people either love or hate the DPE -- not a lot of in between.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 12:27:52 PM
Yes, definitely. As it says on the site, these are the opinions of varied people on the web. As usual with such data, it tends to be biased to the extremes -- people either love or hate the DPE -- not a lot of in between.

The guy I did my IR with was a mensch, and a couple people put him down as rude and unprofessional.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on September 26, 2021, 12:30:44 PM
The guy I did my IR with was a mensch, and a couple people put him down as rude and unprofessional.

Well sometimes these things will depend on how the DPE and the applicant interact on a personal level.

Have you provided a positive review for the DPE? Perhaps consider doing so?
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 01:19:14 PM
Well sometimes these things will depend on how the DPE and the applicant interact on a personal level.

Have you provided a positive review for the DPE? Perhaps consider doing so?

Perhaps
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Rush on September 26, 2021, 02:42:24 PM
I pretty much agree with Steve about online reviews.

Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on September 26, 2021, 08:03:18 PM
Well, it’s the best we’ve got about DPEs right now.

I understand that there has been a mandate for the FAA to develop a feedback and tracking system. Could be an improvement depending on how it is implemented. But being a government implemented system, I will be somewhat skeptical.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Doc Holliday on September 27, 2021, 06:39:46 AM
Well, it’s the best we’ve got about DPEs right now.

I understand that there has been a mandate for the FAA to develop a feedback and tracking system. Could be an improvement depending on how it is implemented. But being a government implemented system, I will be somewhat skeptical.

 AFAIK, that system is already in place.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on September 27, 2021, 08:14:03 AM
Is there a way for the general public to access this information? I haven’t seen it.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Doc Holliday on September 27, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
Is there a way for the general public to access this information? I haven’t seen it.

 No, it's internal.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on September 27, 2021, 08:57:09 AM
Too bad, because that doesn't benefit the public directly then.

Honestly my experience and that of other instructors here in AZ is that the local FSDO doesn't really want to be bothered to do much about them.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Doc Holliday on September 29, 2021, 06:45:06 AM
DPE's are appointed by the administrator.  Therefore the administrator must provide oversight of their operations.

I can't see having a DPE public opinion page on the net provided by the FAA as being useful.   
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: schmookeeg on September 29, 2021, 08:49:57 AM
DPE's are appointed by the administrator.  Therefore the administrator must provide oversight of their operations.

I can't see having a DPE public opinion page on the net provided by the FAA as being useful.   

It would help me avoid dealing with and paying a d-bag DPE?

Is there an internal FAA system that collects public opinion about ASIs also? :D I would find that incredibly useful also, as a member of the public.

Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Doc Holliday on September 29, 2021, 01:41:59 PM
It would help me avoid dealing with and paying a d-bag DPE?

 Usually just asking around can get someone familiar with a DPE. 

Is there an internal FAA system that collects public opinion about ASIs also? :D I would find that incredibly useful also, as a member of the public.

 Don't know.  Given that so few people have any actual interactions with FAA ASI's anymore, unless they are on a 135 or a 121 certificate (or Part 145 repair station).
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on October 16, 2021, 04:03:06 PM
I few minor changes to the http://dpereviews.org website just went up.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Bamaflyer on October 19, 2021, 07:17:05 AM
No matter what I put in it results in the same list all over the country. IfI put Birmingham in FSDO same result. Even putting in a name I get the list of all over the country. Useless as of now, at least to me.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on October 21, 2021, 09:49:18 AM
No matter what I put in it results in the same list all over the country. IfI put Birmingham in FSDO same result. Even putting in a name I get the list of all over the country. Useless as of now, at least to me.

Thanks for the comment. Not sure how you are entering the information. One needs to fill in the value desired in the text field to the right of the button for the search type you desire and then press the button.

If you press the button with no value, then you get the list for the full country.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 21, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Thanks for the comment. Not sure how you are entering the information. One needs to fill in the value desired in the text field to the right of the button for the search type you desire and then press the button.

If you press the button with no value, then you get the list for the full country.

The database is missing a lot of DPEs. For example the FAA designee locator search page lists 7 DPEs in South Dakota, but that web site shows only one of them.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on October 21, 2021, 10:15:55 AM
The database is missing a lot of DPEs. For example the FAA designee locator search page lists 7 DPEs in South Dakota, but that web site shows only one of them.

Yes, it is based on an older database. Obviously those DPEs have no reviews presently. If you send one in for another DPE it will be added.

If it continues to be reasonably popular, the database should be modified to stay current.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Bamaflyer on October 28, 2021, 10:02:17 AM
Thanks for the comment. Not sure how you are entering the information. One needs to fill in the value desired in the text field to the right of the button for the search type you desire and then press the button.

If you press the button with no value, then you get the list for the full country.

FSDO button
I’ve entered Birmingham, Birmingham FSDO, BHM FSDO, BHM with no results.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on October 28, 2021, 10:22:52 AM
The FSDO search is on FSDO codes, like WP07. Not so clear an aspect of the UI and should probably be a pull-down.

If you want to search for Birmingham, put it in the address field and search by address.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: Bamaflyer on October 28, 2021, 11:59:02 AM
The FSDO search is on FSDO codes, like WP07. Not so clear an aspect of the UI and should probably be a pull-down.

If you want to search for Birmingham, put it in the address field and search by address.

Nah too much trouble. I’m an active CFI and was just curious what people had to say about a few DPEs in the Birmingham area.
Title: Re: DPE reviews site
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on October 29, 2021, 07:22:41 AM
Nah too much trouble. I’m an active CFI and was just curious what people had to say about a few DPEs in the Birmingham area.
Turns out there are no reviews for any DPE in Alabama. Submit some!