PILOT SPIN
Pilot Zone => Pilot Zone => Topic started by: PeterNSteinmetz on October 03, 2021, 05:33:26 PM
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Shouldn’t we also have a thread here about Jerry’s escapades? From PoA -
New from Jerry. in this one, Jerry gives Robert a step-by-step lesson on the best way to create an unstable approach.
(Jerry disabled embedding so you have to click to watch on YouTube)
https://youtu.be/OJ3uNkFAMqA
Spoiler alert: "Low altitude alert. 3SJ, check your altitude immediately."
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Never heard of the guy.
I'm not a fan of these youtube warriors putting their nonsense on display.
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but that guy is special.
well, as special as any f'n idiot can be.
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Never heard of him. Is he on POA?
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OP could you tell us what happen with the gear up Bo that you flew Ithink in a club? Asking for a friend.
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I’ve been able to watch about 30 seconds of Jerry before he got annoying.
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I’ve been able to watch about 30 seconds of Jerry before he got annoying.
Ha! That’s how long I lasted as well.
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OP could you tell us what happen with the gear up Bo that you flew Ithink in a club? Asking for a friend.
Sorry can’t talk about that per attorney advice now. I think there is some sort of lesson for people there, though not likely broadly applicable, and will probably discuss more in the future once contractual and legal issues resolved.
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Never heard of him. Is he on POA?
I don’t think so. He flies a twin and constantly posts these videos in which he makes all manner of errors.
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Sorry can’t talk about that per attorney advice now. I think there is some sort of lesson for people there, though not likely broadly applicable, and will probably discuss more in the future once contractual and legal issues resolved.
If you're too shitty of a pilot to put your own gear down, maybe you shouldn't be starting threads calling other people's errors out. Pot calling the kettle black and all.
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If you're too shitty of a pilot to put your own gear down, maybe you shouldn't be starting threads calling other people's errors out. Pot calling the kettle black and all.
is that you POS?
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If you're too shitty of a pilot to put your own gear down, maybe you shouldn't be starting threads calling other people's errors out. Pot calling the kettle black and all.
A buddy mine geared up his Mooney, destroyed it. He didn't forget jack squat, some mechanic "fixed" his gear so it didn't work right. He broke off the Johnson bar trying to lower the gear.
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A buddy mine geared up his Mooney, destroyed it. He didn't forget jack squat, some mechanic "fixed" his gear so it didn't work right. He broke off the Johnson bar trying to lower the gear.
Peter was a brand new pilot to an often flown Bonanza. Occam's razor tells us he most probably forgot.
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is that you POS?
Hell, Peter's been private messaging us to come over here. I guess this is the attention he wanted.
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If you're too shitty of a pilot to put your own gear down, maybe you shouldn't be starting threads calling other people's errors out. Pot calling the kettle black and all.
Gear ups and other mishaps happen for various reasons. Are you privy to the details?
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is that you POS?
Hell, Peter's been private messaging us to come over here. I guess this is the attention he wanted.
peternsteinmetz ? come over from where? let me get it straight / the guy wants people to come here but if you call out his propaganda n use words he dont like he blocks your name? why s he coming to this group anyway someone pee on his parade over on poa ?
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Gear ups and other mishaps happen for various reasons. Are you privy to the details?
have been privy to details of rotor n wing aka you wondered for a long time . why the change rotor?
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Peter was a brand new pilot to an often flown Bonanza. Occam's razor tells us he most probably forgot.
You're one of the PoA crybabies that need the MC to use the "ban hammer" and their cancel culture to rid their precious forum of anyone who offends.
Now you come over here thinking you can do the same?
Please feel free to post, but we don't ban nor do we censor. You are free to make an assclown of yourself for everyone's enjoyment.
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Please feel free to post, but we don't ban nor do we censor. You are free to make an assclown of yourself for everyone's enjoyment.
Perfect. I'll go ahead and leave this here then.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-man-arrested-for-allegedly-pointing-rifle-at-woman-teen/
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Perfect. I'll go ahead and leave this here then.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-man-arrested-for-allegedly-pointing-rifle-at-woman-teen/
Wow, you're the tough guy huh?
Sorry your wittle feewings are so hurt and you are twiggered by the mean Dr.
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Perfect. I'll go ahead and leave this here then.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-man-arrested-for-allegedly-pointing-rifle-at-woman-teen/
Well, that's quite interesting, and seems to be verified. Peter, what say ye?
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Lotta new sock puppets here lately.
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Perfect. I'll go ahead and leave this here then.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-man-arrested-for-allegedly-pointing-rifle-at-woman-teen/
Wow is that the OP? A Google search of his name brings a lot of (interesting) results. Having thought he might be credible resource for some time, he now appears to be a psychopath. Several articles relating him to illegal Bitcoin trading too, followed by a 14 month sentence.
“A medical researcher accused of pointing a loaded rifle towards a woman and her teenage daughter inside Phoenix’s main airport has denied that he directed his firearm at anyone, and claimed he was just trying to make a political statement.
Peter Nathan Steinmetz, 54, was carrying the AR-15 rifle on 25 July inside Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport’s busy Terminal 4 and bought a cup of coffee before stopping in front of some passenger gates, a court document says.
Steinmetz removed the rifle from his shoulder, causing the muzzle to face a mother and her 17-year-old daughter, authorities said.”
Making a political statement by pointing an AR-15 at someone inside an airport? Yep, he’s now lost all credibility to me.
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Well, that's quite interesting, and seems to be verified. Peter, what say ye?
Since this is not related to Air Wagner, I have moved discussion of this issue to a new thread entitled "Armed protests against the TSA".
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... Yep, he’s now lost all credibility to me.
I can only imagine how crushed he will be...
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I can only imagine how crushed he will be...
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Wow is that the OP? A Google search of his name brings a lot of (interesting) results.Several articles relating him to illegal Bitcoin trading too, followed by a 14 month sentence.
“A medical researcher accused of pointing a loaded rifle towards a woman and her teenage daughter inside Phoenix’s main airport has denied that he directed his firearm at anyone, and claimed he was just trying to make a political statement.
Peter Nathan Steinmetz, 54, was carrying the AR-15 rifle on 25 July inside Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport’s busy Terminal 4 and bought a cup of coffee before stopping in front of some passenger gates, a court document says.
Steinmetz removed the rifle from his shoulder, causing the muzzle to face a mother and her 17-year-old daughter, authorities said.”
Making a political statement by pointing an AR-15 at someone inside an airport? Yep, he’s now lost all credibility to me.
This post contains two false and arguably libelous statements.
1. That I pointed an AR-15 at someone -- which I did not. I have moved further discussion of that to the thread "Armed protests against the TSA".
2. That there was some sentence involved in the settlement of of the indictment against me for operating an unlicensed money transmitting business. This issue was resolved with all charges being dropped and a settlement agreement in which I admitted no wrongdoing. Also has nothing to do with Air Wagner so I have move this to a new thread entitled "Is buying or selling cyptocurrency for cash illegal?"
Interesting how all of these have nothing to do with Air Wagner and are merely an attempt at attacking a speaker. Usually a sign that the speaker has nothing worthwhile to say on the subject at hand.
Let's get this thread back to Air Wagner, discussion of whose errors can be both informative and at times entertaining.
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From FlyingKeys regarding the last Wagner video :
Here’s the highlights - it’s a crapfest starting at about 8:30 when he’s at 6000 and almost 200kts GS, given a descent to 4000, and barely descends for the next several minutes.
At 9:56, he’s almost into the turn onto the LOC, cleared to 3400 and intercept, but he’s still at 5600. He then arms the AP ALT for 3500. This comes into play later.
At 11:13, he passes GROVE 1100’ above the typical altitude for an intercept from below, still at 190kts GS.
At 11:50, he’s fighting the nose down, but the autopilot is winning because it’s now trying to hold the 3500 altitude he armed earlier. Well above glideslope and diverging. 180KIAS
12:02, figures out the altitude hold.
12:20 starts a 3000FPM dive, 7° nose down, well above VFE and VLE. Has to deploy spoilers. Can’t figure out why he’s not slowing down.
12:39 blows through glideslope - A/P “it should capture it,” except he’s now pulling out of a dive.
12:45 ATC gives a low altitude alert. You can actually hear the MSAW going off in the background.
12:53 “I meant to do that, haha”
13:18 realizes he’s not configured
14:19 talks about his round of golf later
14:29 “localizer glideslope localizer glideslope localizer glideslope”
15:30 executes a crosswind landing, slightly left of centerline
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A buddy mine geared up his Mooney, destroyed it. He didn't forget jack squat, some mechanic "fixed" his gear so it didn't work right. He broke off the Johnson bar trying to lower the gear.
That's not even in the same category. That's a MECHANICAL FAILURE. Not a pilot induced gear up.
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That's not even in the same category. That's a MECHANICAL FAILURE. Not a pilot induced gear up.
I think Steingar’s point was, until you know the cause of the gear up, you can’t assume it was pilot error. I don’t believe we know the cause in the case being speculated about in this thread.
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I think Steingar’s point was, until you know the cause of the gear up, you can’t assume it was pilot error. I don’t believe we know the cause in the case being speculated about in this thread.
I understand that, but 99% of gear ups are pilot error. He's being obtuse again, obviously still insecure about his PIO prop strike. Everything he says is pure PROJECTION. Classic "Progressive".
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I understand that, but 99% of gear ups are pilot error. He's being obtuse again, obviously still insecure about his PIO prop strike. Everything he says is pure PROJECTION. Classic "Progressive".
First of all, I didn’t know about his prop strike. Secondly, even if I did I wouldn’t necessarily assume he’s projecting his feeling about that onto Peter, and third of all, when progressives project, they are accusing innocent people of crimes they themselves commit. Steingar wasn’t projecting pilot error onto Peter, rather the opposite, was presuming innocent until proven guilty. Even if 99% of gear ups are pilot error, we don’t presume guilt in America. At least we’re not supposed to in due process, I understand Internet opinions aren’t bound by the Constitution, but I still like to follow that principle.
Of course I could be misinterpreting the whole thread.
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First, Peter has impressive bona fides. He is what he says he is, and his publication record is laudable, though by no means spectacular. I think carrying a semiautomatic rifle into a commercial airport a demonstration of breathtakingly bad judgement, but I believe him when he says he pointed the firearm at no one. Cops lie all the time, and we all know it.
Second, Anthony is quite correct. I did strike the prop on my Mooney. It was poor airmanship and entirely my fault.
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First, Peter has impressive bona fides. He is what he says he is, and his publication record is laudable, though by no means spectacular. I think carrying a semiautomatic rifle into a commercial airport a demonstration of breathtakingly bad judgement, but I believe him when he says he pointed the firearm at no one. Cops lie all the time, and we all know it.
Second, Anthony is quite correct. I did spike the prop on my Mooney. It was poor airmanship and entirely my fault.
Which, to your credit always admitted. Kudos for that. I'm sure you also did the necessary remedial training to avoid that again. Thumbs up!
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Which, to your credit always admitted. Kudos for that. I'm sure you also did the necessary remedial training to avoid that again. Thumbs up!
I very very very nearly left aviation for good after that, believing myself washed out. It took all my friends and a couple CFIs (and my insurance agent!) to talk me back into it. Got lots of training afterwards. To be honest the whole thing cause about because I was still a little green with the aircraft and did some things wrong.
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Which, to your credit always admitted. Kudos for that. I'm sure you also did the necessary remedial training to avoid that again. Thumbs up!
I hadn't porpoised the bird in years, yet this past Wednesday night I did, and the second oscillation was worse than the first. A light bit of throttle settled her down just above the runway and then a nice landing. Good to remember how to deal with those things, you never know when something is gonna be a little off.
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I hadn't porpoised the bird in years, yet this past Wednesday night I did, and the second oscillation was worse than the first. A light bit of throttle settled her down just above the runway and then a nice landing. Good to remember how to deal with those things, you never know when something is gonna be a little off.
In my case it was the first bounce that did it.
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In my case it was the first bounce that did it.
That must have been one hell of a bounce!
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That must have been one hell of a bounce!
It was a really hard one. I think it was assisted by the uneven nature of the airstrip, but I honestly at this point can't really say what I did or what caused it. I have to one advantage that no matter how badly I land I can say it wasn't my worst one.
Truth be told I have a much better intuitive feel for the aircraft these days, can usually tell when it's going to go the way I want and when not. Haven't bounced at all in a couple years.
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I think Steingar’s point was, until you know the cause of the gear up, you can’t assume it was pilot error. I don’t believe we know the cause in the case being speculated about in this thread.
yes we do actually. the man in question gave affirmation to a poster over on poa , that he hit gear up when trying to clean up flaps on the roll out. peter says he can not discuss , per attorney , it goes without sayin .
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yes we do actually. the man in question gave affirmation to a poster over on poa , that he hit gear up when trying to clean up flaps on the roll out. peter says he can not discuss , per attorney , it goes without sayin .
So why didn't the squat switches prevent the gear motor from actuating?
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So why didn't the squat switches prevent the gear motor from actuating?
Common mistake in Bo's with the piano key switches.
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Common mistake in Bo's with the piano key switches.
Has nothing to do with the switch.
The squat switch is on the landing gear itself and opens the circuit once weight is on the wheels to prevent the switch in the cockpit from retracting the gear inadvertantly.
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Has nothing to do with the switch.
The squat switch is on the landing gear itself and opens the circuit once weight is on the wheels to prevent the switch in the cockpit from retracting the gear inadvertantly.
If the switch works, there birds are old. Are they supposed to be tested at annual during gear swings?
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If the switch works, there birds are old. Are they supposed to be tested at annual during gear swings?
Yep. Tested and adjusted.
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Yep. Tested and adjusted.
Ah, hence the Peter "on the advice of council" thing.
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Ah, hence the Peter "on the advice of council" thing.
Exactly.
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First of all, I didn’t know about his prop strike. Secondly, even if I did I wouldn’t necessarily assume he’s projecting his feeling about that onto Peter, and third of all, when progressives project, they are accusing innocent people of crimes they themselves commit. Steingar wasn’t projecting pilot error onto Peter, rather the opposite, was presuming innocent until proven guilty. Even if 99% of gear ups are pilot error, we don’t presume guilt in America. At least we’re not supposed to in due process, I understand Internet opinions aren’t bound by the Constitution, but I still like to follow that principle.
Of course I could be misinterpreting the whole thread.
“If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit.”
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In Peter's defense, I assume he was referring to his gear up when he said he didn't want to say anything on advice of counsel. I don't know when this happened but it could be on the way to active adjudication. I'm certain there was lots of money involved.
Bo's suffering gear collapses because someone hits the gear switch instead of the flap switch is nothing new, they've been happening for years. Peter wasn't the first, and he won't be the last. Really stupid design by Beechcraft to make the gear switch look like the flap switch and put them in proximity. They also suffer fuel starvation because their fuel system is both complex and not entirely intuitive. There are plenty of pilots who've successfully managed gear and fuel in these aircraft, but there are lots who haven't.
All that said, whenever Peter took flight in this Bonanza these issues were known. if I were flying one of these aircraft I'd be super ultra paranoid about hitting the correct switch. I'd also make certain I had a very, very good understanding of the fuel system. Some of them are quite byzantine. Peter should have known better, period.
I'm so paranoid about landing gear up in my retractable gear airplane I lower the gear 3 miles from the airport, and I have a giant bar that sits in the middle of the panel.