PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 03, 2015, 12:49:25 PM
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Somehow I got on the AOPA e-mail list. This caught my eye today.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/science-and-technology/2-degrees-flies-planes-author-works-at-nasa-moshe-kai-cavalins-age-just-17 (http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/science-and-technology/2-degrees-flies-planes-author-works-at-nasa-moshe-kai-cavalins-age-just-17)
So we saw The Martian this weekend, and I have been thinking about NASA. Are they doing monumental things these days? Do we still have large groups of highly-skilled people actually cooperating to do monumental things? Has PC infiltrated NASA so that technically unqualified people are hired, kind of like a certain percentage of ingredients in a processed food can be non-organic, but still labeled organic?
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JAAAAAAAASOOOOONNNNNNNNNN
We need a popcorn smilie
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The mission of NASA is two fold. Promote government solutions for Man Made Climate Change, and promote Muslim Outreach.
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ABC required me to fill out a survey before being able to read the article, so I passed.
But I think I can still answer your questions.
In my opinion, NASA has been castrated, for both budgetary reasons and political reasons.
I think NASA still does some deep space and planetary work, but their inability to put an American into space on its own, without the help of the Russians, is an international embarrassment and a strategic blunder of epic proportions.
Within the last decade the National AERONAUTICS
AND SPACE Administration has been reduced to a Man-Made Global Warming advocacy group and "Muslim Outreach" international diplomacy agency.
It is a pathetically sad state of affairs, and we will probably never recover.
I believe that we will see other nations militarize space during my lifetime, and we will be utterly unable to respond.
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NASA has only been exploring the solar system, with probes to many of the planets and landers on Mars. Apparently none of you noticed the first ever flyby of Pluto by the New Horizons spacecraft.
Apparently all this just isn't enough for some people.
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I have a friend who is a retired NASA engineer and who worked in the control room on the Shuttle. He says that if we wanted to go to the moon again there is no one left who knows how.
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NASA has only been exploring the solar system, with probes to many of the planets and landers on Mars. Apparently none of you noticed the first ever flyby of Pluto by the New Horizons spacecraft.
Apparently all this just isn't enough for some people.
I stated that they are doing deep space and planetary work. Did you miss that?
And no, it's not enough. As long as we have a need for manned space flight, and are putting our astronauts into space, we damned sure aught to be able to get our astronauts into space and bring them back, on our own.
In case you haven't noticed, Putin has been a little belligerent lately. Would you like to be a US astronaut in the International Space Station with a one way ticket home on Russian spacecraft while Putin is having a pissing match with the US?
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Why exactly do we NEED manned spaceflight? Robots have been doing a stellar job (if you'll forgive the pun) lately.
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Why exactly do we NEED manned spaceflight? Robots have been doing a stellar job (if you'll forgive the pun) lately.
That irrelevant, and worthy of a different thread. But we have Commander Scott Kelly up there right now, who is seven months into a year-long mission. And we have no means of bringing him home on our own.
We have had an American on the International Space Station continuously since 2000 I believe. As long as we think that's important, and I do, then we need to have the means to get them back.
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Why exactly do we NEED manned spaceflight? Robots have been doing a stellar job (if you'll forgive the pun) lately.
Oh my! Are you so bereft of human spirit and adventure that you have to ask that question?
Do you want this species to be stuck on this tiny ball of dirt?
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You know what bugged me the most about "The Martian"
The #1 tag line "I'm going to have to science the shit out of this!"
No...you need to engineer the shit out of this. You're not coming up with new stuff, you're taking what you already have and know and applying it. That's engineering, not science.
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That's engineering, not science.
And that's pedantic, not profound.
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That's engineering, not science.
And that's pedantic, not profound.
Meh....can't argue with that, it just bugged me is all.
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Meh....can't argue with that, it just bugged me is all.
But, but...
...I came here for an argument!
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The mission of NASA is two fold. Promote government solutions for Man Made Climate Change, and promote Muslim Outreach.
Just keep on promoting your kind of hate. Why is it that those who love the constitution, particularly the 2nd amendment, seem to forget we have a first amendment?
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The mission of NASA is two fold. Promote government solutions for Man Made Climate Change, and promote Muslim Outreach.
Just keep on promoting your kind of hate. Why is it that those who love the constitution, particularly the 2nd amendment, seem to forget we have a first amendment?
What hate did Anthony exhibit? And have YOU ever read the Constitution? Doubtful, or you wouldn't have made such an asinine statement.
The fact is that Obama has redefined the mission of NASA to become a global warming and international diplomacy agency. That is twisted and wrong, and has hurt our strategic security standing, requiring us to rely on adversaries to lead manned space exploration. Pathetic and dangerous.
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The mission of NASA is two fold. Promote government solutions for Man Made Climate Change, and promote Muslim Outreach.
Just keep on promoting your kind of hate. Why is it that those who love the constitution, particularly the 2nd amendment, seem to forget we have a first amendment?
Your ideology of stupidity is showing. Is projection all you bring to every thread?
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Just keep on promoting your kind of hate. Why is it that those who love the constitution, particularly the 2nd amendment, seem to forget we have a first amendment?
Since when have I tried to limit someone's free speech??? ::)
The two issues I stated as missions of NASA are true. So, I don't understand your statement at all.
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I had totally forgotten about that bizarre dictate of Obama's to the Director of NASA to "make the Muslims feel good about themselves."
Just watched the YouTube video of that interview. Painful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUNc9bWu_1I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUNc9bWu_1I)
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I had totally forgotten about that bizarre dictate of Obama's to the Director of NASA to "make the Muslims feel good about themselves."
Just watched the YouTube video of that interview. Painful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUNc9bWu_1I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUNc9bWu_1I)
Ugh. Give Obama 1 more term, or give Hillary a term, and our military will be turned into a well-armed Peace Corps.
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NASA does do a lot of important work still, as pointed out above, but I do agree that we need to have the means to bring astronauts and supplies to and from the ISS without relying on the Russians.
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NASA doesn't have a manned space program for one reason and one reason only. The majority of Americans, primarily conservative Americans don't want to pay for it. Putting people in space is very expensive and it is the "nice to have" program that gets cut when congress refuses to expand NASA's budget to support it. It is embarrassing to not be able to transport our own astronauts, but we are working on that with several private contractors that are working toward cost effective solutions. In the mean time, since we only seem to be committed to space exploration on the super cheap, we tell our astronauts to ride the bus instead of buying them a car.
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NASA doesn't have a manned space program for one reason and one reason only. The majority of Americans, primarily conservative Americans don't want to pay for it. Putting people in space is very expensive and it is the "nice to have" program that gets cut when congress refuses to expand NASA's budget to support it. It is embarrassing to not be able to transport our own astronauts, but we are working on that with several private contractors that are working toward cost effective solutions. In the mean time, since we only seem to be committed to space exploration on the super cheap, we tell our astronauts to ride the bus instead of buying them a car.
When Obama gave NASA a new mandate to make Muslim countries feel good about their contributions to science he created another reason that we don't have a manned space program.
NASA's mandate should be related to space and aeronautics.
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When Obama gave NASA a new mandate to make Muslim countries feel good about their contributions to science he created another reason that we don't have a manned space program.
NASA's mandate should be related to space and aeronautics.
Agreed. He also made man made climate change a mission also. The guy is obsessed with MMCC, and government solutions (taxes, regs, etc).
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NASA doesn't have a manned space program for one reason and one reason only. The majority of Americans, primarily conservative Americans don't want to pay for it. Putting people in space is very expensive and it is the "nice to have" program that gets cut when congress refuses to expand NASA's budget to support it. It is embarrassing to not be able to transport our own astronauts, but we are working on that with several private contractors that are working toward cost effective solutions. In the mean time, since we only seem to be committed to space exploration on the super cheap, we tell our astronauts to ride the bus instead of buying them a car.
I don't think that cost is the case. Here is the annual NASA budget, by year.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_NASA
You will note that it has virtually never gone down, and is currently at 18 billion. That is a mere 0.50% of the federal budget - a rounding error. It has gone down as a % of the federal budget, but I attribute that more to the magnitude of the budget than the size of NASA. It's also gone down in constant dollars, if you like that mental masterbation.
So without a shrinking budget, where is the money going?
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The mission of NASA is two fold. Promote government solutions for Man Made Climate Change, and promote Muslim Outreach.
Just keep on promoting your kind of hate. Why is it that those who love the constitution, particularly the 2nd amendment, seem to forget we have a first amendment?
Because as long as we have a 2A, we don't need a 1A.
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The mission of NASA is two fold. Promote government solutions for Man Made Climate Change, and promote Muslim Outreach.
Just keep on promoting your kind of hate. Why is it that those who love the constitution, particularly the 2nd amendment, seem to forget we have a first amendment?
LMAO! Liberalism is a thought (so called) echo chamber.
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NASA has only been exploring the solar system, with probes to many of the planets and landers on Mars. Apparently none of you noticed the first ever flyby of Pluto by the New Horizons spacecraft.
Apparently all this just isn't enough for some people.
Built and launched during the Bush II administration.
What else ya got?