Post by: Lucifer on October 04, 2021, 01:39:16 PM
Hmmmmmmm, seems now they have this in the works since their scamdemic isn't working as planned.
https://newspress.com/americas-supply-chain-truck-wreck/
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I want to speak to you about the reason store shelves are emptying and why parts of the United States are dealing with scarcities of all kinds. Some of it has to do with the prolonged shutdown of our economy that literally broke the links in our supply chains.
Much of it has to do with the trucking industry that has been ignored, slighted, taken for granted and over regulated, to the point there are not enough trucks and truckers to offload hundreds of cargo ships waiting offshore of our ports throughout the nation.
The supply chain breakage was exaggerated by way of a triple whammy of the COVID-19 lockdown as it affected truckers. Deliveries were eliminated to stores and facilities that were closed.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-10-04/out-of-stock-shortages-for-christmas-shopping-put-retailers-at-risk
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It’s the beginning of October, just the start of what the retail world simply calls “peak.” But the industry is already in various forms of panic that usually don’t take hold until the weeks before Christmas.
Early in the year, the hope was that the bottlenecks that gummed up the global supply chain in 2020 would be mostly cleared by now. They’ve actually only gotten worse — much worse — and evidence is mounting that the holiday season is at risk.
Across Europe, retailers such as apparel chain H&M can’t meet demand because of delivery delays. In the U.S., Nike cut its sales forecast after Covid-19 triggered factory closures in Vietnam that wiped out months of production. And Bed Bath & Beyond’s stock plunged amid shipping woes, with Chief Executive Officer Mark Tritton warning that disruptions would last well into next year. “There is pressure across the board, and you will hear about that from others.”
Covid outbreaks have idled port terminals. There still aren’t enough cargo containers, causing prices to spike 10-fold from a year ago. Labor shortages have stalled trucking and pushed U.S. job openings to all-time highs. And that was before UPS, Walmart and others embark on hiring hundreds of thousands of seasonal workers to take on the peak of peak.
Post by: Rush on October 04, 2021, 02:07:30 PM
Post by: Lucifer on October 04, 2021, 02:11:53 PM
Sounds like a good time to fire everybody that won’t get a vaccination.
Nothing going on for the past two years was accidental, or just happened.
Post by: Anthony on October 04, 2021, 04:31:32 PM
Nothing going on for the past two years was accidental, or just happened.
Yep. More Government, more control, more Marxism.
Post by: Steingar on October 05, 2021, 06:18:59 AM
Post by: nddons on October 05, 2021, 06:29:23 AM
Could get worse. Most of our goods are shipped over the seas. The crews of those boats have had it really rough, a lot of them haven't been able to go home for a long time. Little shore leave, it isn't a very good situation. This has been going on a couple years, and I don't know how much longer they'll put up with it.Not helped by Covid-related dock slowdowns, trucking issues, etc.
There are claims that there are anywhere from 90 to 1,000 cargo ships are anchored off the coast of California, waiting to unload at Los Angeles and Long Beach. I’m guessing it’s closer to 100 or less, but that’s a lot of junk from China.
Post by: bflynn on October 05, 2021, 09:23:20 AM
Could get worse. Most of our goods are shipped over the seas. The crews of those boats have had it really rough, a lot of them haven't been able to go home for a long time. Little shore leave, it isn't a very good situation. This has been going on a couple years, and I don't know how much longer they'll put up with it.
That isn't anything new. Freighter crews have been doing short turn arounds for decades, aka, as long as any of them have been working. The do work shifts, so 2-3 months on board, 1-2 months on shore.
That might be getting pinched because certain ports (Long Beach, looking at you) don't want to do the work to offload. But really, it will just mean that ships get rerouted to other ports in the future.
Post by: Little Joe on October 05, 2021, 05:27:43 PM
Not helped by Covid-related dock slowdowns, trucking issues, etc.1,000 wouldn't surprise me. I recently returned from a Florida-Maine and return trip. All the major seaports had armadas of cargo ships hanging out off shore. It looked like dozens of invasion forces. I've never seen anything like it. I have been waiting since April for a shipment of Travertine tile for my pool deck. I hope it is on one of those ships instead of still sitting in Turkey.
There are claims that there are anywhere from 90 to 1,000 cargo ships are anchored off the coast of California, waiting to unload at Los Angeles and Long Beach. I’m guessing it’s closer to 100 or less, but that’s a lot of junk from China.
Post by: Steingar on October 06, 2021, 06:13:51 AM
That isn't anything new. Freighter crews have been doing short turn arounds for decades, aka, as long as any of them have been working. The do work shifts, so 2-3 months on board, 1-2 months on shore.
That might be getting pinched because certain ports (Long Beach, looking at you) don't want to do the work to offload. But really, it will just mean that ships get rerouted to other ports in the future.
The problem is because of COVID related rules worldwide a lot of those guys haven't seen their families or gotten a break in a long time.
Post by: bflynn on October 06, 2021, 07:32:27 AM
The problem is because of COVID related rules worldwide a lot of those guys haven't seen their families or gotten a break in a long time.
BTDT. It sucks for sure. But I don't think covid rules prevent a crew member from rotating off a ship.
Edit: Found this about how they're handling it. If there's a covid case on board the ship, there are different options for quarantine, but it doesn't appear they are otherwise required.
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/maritime/recommendations-for-ships.html
Post by: Steingar on October 06, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
BTDT. It sucks for sure. But I don't think covid rules prevent a crew member from rotating off a ship.
If the border is closed. If the country requires a COVID test, and the hand can't get one on board the ship. Lots of stuff prevent these guys from getting off.
Post by: bflynn on October 06, 2021, 07:46:32 AM
If the border is closed. If the country requires a COVID test, and the hand can't get one on board the ship. Lots of stuff prevent these guys from getting off.
I'm not aware of any country preventing permanent residents from entering the country. Rather than the conditional "if the country", do you a specific example?
It takes about a month to cross the Pacific. That's a pretty good quarantine period if there's been no cases on board.
Post by: Steingar on October 06, 2021, 07:48:26 AM
I'm not aware of any country preventing permanent residents from entering the country. Rather than the conditional "if the country", do you a specific example?
It takes about a month to cross the Pacific. That's a pretty good quarantine period if there's been no cases on board.
The guys next to me at Oshkosh had to have a COVID test to go back to Canada. Had they not been able to get one they'd not have been allowed back in.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 06, 2021, 08:07:54 AM
The guys next to me at Oshkosh had to have a COVID test to go back to Canada. Had they not been able to get one they'd not have been allowed back in.
Fuck Canada.
Post by: Number7 on October 06, 2021, 08:10:42 AM
The guys next to me at Oshkosh had to have a COVID test to go back to Canada. Had they not been able to get one they'd not have been allowed back in.
WHERE'S YOUR LINK to that story, Troll???
Where is the peer reviewed study proving it, since links lie???
Why are you publishing UNVERIFIED claims?
Post by: Steingar on October 06, 2021, 10:36:54 AM
WHERE'S YOUR LINK to that story, Troll???
Where is the peer reviewed study proving it, since links lie???
Why are you publishing UNVERIFIED claims?
Admittedly this was a personal experience. The guys next to me were in a Mooney Chaparral. They were an Egyptian guy and another of Middle Eastern descent, don't recall where his people came from. Both were Muslim and both were fluent in Arabic. They came from Toronto and left the day before me. They were really sweating the COVID test too. We did dinner one night shared food. It was pretty cool.
I have to admit, the stuff about the crews on the container ships is secondhand information. Stuff I read about and remembered, as I felt bad for the men and women involved.
Post by: nddons on October 06, 2021, 02:09:02 PM
I'm not aware of any country preventing permanent residents from entering the country. Rather than the conditional "if the country", do you a specific example?I had no idea it took a month. Wow.
It takes about a month to cross the Pacific. That's a pretty good quarantine period if there's been no cases on board.
I have a good friend who flies 747 freighters to the Far East. Said when you get shuttled to the hotel, they literally lock you into the room and give you no key to get in and out. You are basically locked up in a hotel room until the shuttle picks you up for your return flight.
Post by: Rush on October 06, 2021, 02:16:00 PM
I had no idea it took a month. Wow.
I have a good friend who flies 747 freighters to the Far East. Said when you get shuttled to the hotel, they literally lock you into the room and give you no key to get in and out. You are basically locked up in a hotel room until the shuttle picks you up for your return flight.
What? That should be against fire codes. That’s literal imprisonment.
Post by: Lucifer on October 06, 2021, 02:21:33 PM
What? That should be against fire codes. That’s literal imprisonment.
It's not the US. And yes, several countries are doing this.
Again, this has nothing to do with health or a virus.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 06, 2021, 02:28:42 PM
It's not the US. And yes, several countries are doing this.
Again, this has nothing to do with health or a virus.
What idiot would put up with that?
Post by: nddons on October 06, 2021, 02:40:15 PM
What idiot would put up with that?Those that want to keep their flying jobs I guess. She used to fly for Cathay Pacific, and that Chinese airline was downright abusive of their flight crews. Currently, she’s flying for a US-based freight company. Flies to China, Hong Kong, and literally all over the globe.
Post by: Username on October 07, 2021, 08:03:47 AM
https://guidedimports.com/shipping-from-china-to-us/
Route: Shenzhen Port to New York City Port, and trucked to the center of the city.
Time: 33-days
Cost: $3,600
Typical shipping times:
1-5 Days – via China Air Express
2-15 Days –via China Air Freight
15+ Days – via China Sea Freight to the West Coast
25+ Days – via China Sea Freight to the East Coast
Post by: Lucifer on October 07, 2021, 08:06:19 AM
Typically I plan on 3 weeks transit.
Post by: Anthony on October 07, 2021, 11:13:02 AM
Post by: Lucifer on October 07, 2021, 11:19:16 AM
Now I know where the phrase, "take a slow boat to China" comes from.
A container ship typically runs about 10 knots (give or take) at cruise. By running at hull speed they gain their best efficiency.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_speed
Post by: texasag93 on October 07, 2021, 11:57:40 AM
Post by: nddons on October 07, 2021, 12:28:52 PM
A container ship typically runs about 10 knots (give or take) at cruise. By running at hull speed they gain their best efficiency.Where’s Henning when you need him so he can tell you how wrong you are?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_speed
Post by: Rush on October 07, 2021, 01:40:51 PM
http://ports.com/sea-route/port-of-shanghai,china/port-of-los-angeles,united-states/ (http://ports.com/sea-route/port-of-shanghai,china/port-of-los-angeles,united-states/)
It weaves its way west through the Suez Canal, the Panama Canal and everything instead of just going straight across the Pacific? What's up with that? Is it safer? I know nothing about sea stuff.
Post by: Lucifer on October 07, 2021, 01:44:03 PM
It weaves its way west through the Suez Canal, the Panama Canal and everything instead of just going straight across the Pacific? What's up with that? Is it safer? I know nothing about sea stuff.
I think it's just the way the program was written. That's the long way around for sure.
Post by: nddons on October 07, 2021, 02:17:51 PM
I think it's just the way the program was written. That's the long way around for sure.But it brings you through some really exciting areas. I’m thinking of taking a Mogadishu cruise soon.
Post by: Anthony on October 07, 2021, 04:21:04 PM
It weaves its way west through the Suez Canal, the Panama Canal and everything instead of just going straight across the Pacific? What's up with that? Is it safer? I know nothing about sea stuff.
Jap subs.
Post by: Rush on October 07, 2021, 04:29:08 PM
Jap subs.
LOL!
Post by: ConfederateGeneral on October 07, 2021, 08:58:22 PM
Jap subs.worse than that . watch for vets off vietnam war who can ‘t get into hong kong . not good , no end in sight either .