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Title: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 04, 2022, 09:27:39 PM
Ok, that’s just the name of an outstanding 70’s band that plays here in Southeast Wisconsin.  However, the band fulfills my nostalgia for some of the best music ever made.

Recently my daughter turned me on to Spotify vs Pandora, and I just learned that I could listen to entire albums on Spotify, the way God intended for music to be heard. The good news is with a little tinnitus I can still hear the hiss from playing vinyl albums.

I just got done listening to one of the best albums of all time:

Eagles:  Hotel California



Others on my list will be:

Cheap Trick:  Live at Budokan

REO Speedwagon:  You Can Tune a Piano, But You Can’t Tune a Fish

Billy Joel:  The Stranger

Bob Seger:  Stranger in Town

What say you?
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 05, 2022, 03:48:42 AM
I've been using YouTube Music to listen to tunes through ear buds, when at the gym then stream it with my TV at home. Is Spotify an AP?

Wow Stan, we have almost opposite music tastes. I dislike most of those bands and individuals.  There are a couple decent Eagles songs from their VERY early albums. Billy Joel and REO Speedwagon suck.  Elevator music. 
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 05, 2022, 05:58:42 AM
Desert island list:

Supertramp Crime of the Century

Alan Parsons Project The Turn of a Friendly Card

The The Soul Mining

Talk Talk The Colour of Spring

Marvin Gaye What's Going On

Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 05, 2022, 06:42:03 AM
I was a big fan of Supertramp!

Right now I’m listening to Northern Arms which nobody has heard of.

And nostalgia? Cranberries.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Lucifer on January 05, 2022, 07:20:03 AM
The Robert Johnson original recordings.

Son House

Albert King

Elmore James

Muddy Waters

Howlin' Wolf

Buddy Guy

BB King

John Mayall and the Blues Breakers

John Lee Hooker

Any ZZ Top

Any Eric Clapton

Any Stevie Ray Vaughn

Any Joe Bonamassa

Any Elton John album up to Rock of the Westies (1975)

Any Jimmy Buffett album up to Volcano 1979

Alan Parsons Project Tales of Mystery and the Imagination

Any Ted Nugent

Any AC/DC

Any Van Halen prior to 1995

Any Rush

Any David Bowie

Any Rod Stewart

Any Chuck Berry

Any Queen

Any Prince


Plus many, many lessor known artist.

Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 05, 2022, 07:22:25 AM
The Robert Johnson original recordings.

Son House

Albert King

Elmore James

Muddy Waters

Howlin' Wolf

Buddy Guy

BB King

John Mayall and the Blues Breakers

Any ZZ Top

Any Eric Clapton

Any Stevie Ray Vaughn

Any Joe Bonamassa

Any Elton John album up to Rock of the Westies (1975)

Any Jimmy Buffett album up to Volcano 1979

Alan Parsons Project Tales of Mystery and the Imagination

Any Ted Nugent

Any AC/DC

Any Van Halen prior to 1995

Any Rush

Any David Bowie

Any Rod Stewart

Any Chuck Berry

Any Queen


Plus many, many lessor known artist.

I'll take about nine of those, the rest not so much.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Lucifer on January 05, 2022, 07:30:21 AM
I'll take about nine of those, the rest not so much.

BB King once said "I don't like everything I hear, but I do like a little of everything".
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Username on January 05, 2022, 07:34:59 AM
Most 1980s except Michael Jackson.  Love anything Blondie or Benatar.  Mannheim Steamroller for driving music.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 05, 2022, 07:52:21 AM
I've been using YouTube Music to listen to tunes through ear buds, when at the gym then stream it with my TV at home. Is Spotify an AP?

Wow Stan, we have almost opposite music tastes. I dislike most of those bands and individuals.  There are a couple decent Eagles songs from their VERY early albums. Billy Joel and REO Speedwagon suck.  Elevator music.
My music is pretty eclectic - we probably have more similarities than differences.

However, the assignment was listing ALBUMS that were specifically produced to be heard in the order presented on the vinyl.

On my Spotify library I also have:
Scorpions
Pat Travers Band
AC/DC
Ted Nugent
Rainbow
Kansas
Peter Gabriel
Supertramp
Dire Straights
Toby Keith
Brooks and Dun
Foreigner
Warren Zevon
George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers
Head East
Foghat
The Knack
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Aerosmith
The J. Geils Band
Gordon Lightfoot

Ted Nugent’s album “Ted Nugent” is really good but I don’t sit and feel the need to listen to those songs in order.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 05, 2022, 07:58:30 AM
I was a big fan of Supertramp!

Right now I’m listening to Northern Arms which nobody has heard of.

And nostalgia? Cranberries.
There are a number of bands that I’ll watch on YouTube much later and kind of cringe. However, Roger Hodgson has some videos and he sounds virtually identical to when he was Supertramp. Outstanding stuff.

Zombie!
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Bamaflyer on January 05, 2022, 08:16:30 AM
Early Chicago (1st 3 albums)
Lynyrd Slynyrd
Bob Seger
Hendrix
Elvis
Tom Petty
Rare Earth
Grand Funk
Van Halen
Extreme
Credence Clearwater
Temptations
Dion
Four Tops
ZZ Top
Four Seasons
Allman Brothers

So many more…yeah I’m old.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 05, 2022, 08:52:23 AM
There are a number of bands that I’ll watch on YouTube much later and kind of cringe. However, Roger Hodgson has some videos and he sounds virtually identical to when he was Supertramp. Outstanding stuff.

Roger Hodgson and Rick Davies are a couple of very talented dudes, and the rest of that band was as well.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 05, 2022, 08:59:01 AM
Early Chicago (1st 3 albums)
Lynyrd Slynyrd
Bob Seger
Hendrix
Elvis
Tom Petty
Rare Earth
Grand Funk
Van Halen
Extreme
Credence Clearwater
Temptations
Dion
Four Tops
ZZ Top
Four Seasons
Allman Brothers

So many more…yeah I’m old.

I'll take ten of those as well, and yes, we're all old. My wife always criticizes me for continuing to listen to 70's, 80's, and early 90's music, but what can I do, it's what I like.

Lets add some:

Steely Dan

Average White Band (and Tower of Power and some other good funk)

Bill Withers

The Smiths, The Cure, and others from that era

Fleetwood Mac

Micheal McDonald (with and without the Doobies)

And then add earlyt Doobies

Widespread Panic, the only jam band I follow regularly

Early U2 (up to and including Joshua Tree)

America, Seals and Crofts, Crosby, Stills, and Nash, and other of that ilk


Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 05, 2022, 09:13:58 AM
My music is pretty eclectic - we probably have more similarities than differences.

However, the assignment was listing ALBUMS that were specifically produced to be heard in the order presented on the vinyl.

On my Spotify library I also have:
Scorpions
Pat Travers Band
AC/DC
Ted Nugent
Rainbow
Kansas
Peter Gabriel
Supertramp
Dire Straights
Toby Keith
Brooks and Dun
Foreigner
Warren Zevon
George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers
Head East
Foghat
The Knack
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Aerosmith
The J. Geils Band
Gordon Lightfoot

Ted Nugent’s album “Ted Nugent” is really good but I don’t sit and feel the need to listen to those songs in order.

You're right. I like a lot of those.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Bamaflyer on January 05, 2022, 11:51:55 AM
I'll take ten of those as well, and yes, we're all old. My wife always criticizes me for continuing to listen to 70's, 80's, and early 90's music, but what can I do, it's what I like.

Lets add some:

Steely Dan

And then add earlyt Doobies (for me Doobies w/o McDonald)

Widespread Panic, the only jam band I follow regularly

America, Seals and Crofts, Crosby, Stills, and Nash, and other of that ilk

I’ll agree with those. Well 60s-70s we’re the most creative period in music according to…me!
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 05, 2022, 01:14:49 PM
I’ll agree with those. Well 60s-70s we’re the most creative period in music according to…me!
That was a time when the music relied on the musicians, instruments, and the singers, and not on the computer-generated artificial sounds of today.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: TimRB on January 05, 2022, 03:51:20 PM
Nobody likes Pink Floyd?  I still put Dark Side of the Moon in my top five, maybe top, period.  I never get tired of it.

Tim
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Lucifer on January 05, 2022, 03:55:19 PM
Nobody likes Pink Floyd?  I still put Dark Side of the Moon in my top five, maybe top, period.  I never get tired of it.

Tim

  Big fan of Pink Floyd.  My list could go on for page after page.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 05, 2022, 04:22:02 PM
I also love Pink Floyd, Lynyrd Skynyrd and all the classic southern rock of the 70s. But my all time favorite band is Muse, especially the early stuff, late 90s, early 2000s. Genre is progressive alternative or something. Go figure. I don’t like much anything else “progressive”.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Lucifer on January 05, 2022, 04:50:17 PM
I also love Pink Floyd, Lynyrd Skynyrd and all the classic southern rock of the 70s. But my all time favorite band is Muse, especially the early stuff, late 90s, early 2000s. Genre is progressive alternative or something. Go figure. I don’t like much anything else “progressive”.

 Lynyrd Skynyrd only had one song I liked, which was The Ballad of Curtis Lowe.

 I did like Mollie Hatchet.   And Black Oak Arkansas.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 05, 2022, 06:14:04 PM
Lynyrd Skynyrd only had one song I liked, which was The Ballad of Curtis Lowe.

 I did like Mollie Hatchet.   And Black Oak Arkansas.

Well, pre-plane crash Lynyrd Skynyrd. I love The Ballad of Curtis Loew.

You don’t like Call Me The Breeze? Both the guitar and keyboard solos send chills up my spine, even after all these years.

At least there’s a couple of pics in here you might like.   :D

Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Lucifer on January 05, 2022, 07:35:58 PM
Well, pre-plane crash Lynyrd Skynyrd. I love The Ballad of Curtis Loew.

You don’t like Call Me The Breeze? Both the guitar and keyboard solos send chills up my spine, even after all these years.

At least there’s a couple of pics in here you might like.   :D



 My problem with Lynyrd Skynyrd was, IMO, poor musicianship.  Essentially a glorified garage band.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 05, 2022, 08:36:08 PM
Well, pre-plane crash Lynyrd Skynyrd. I love The Ballad of Curtis Loew.

You don’t like Call Me The Breeze? Both the guitar and keyboard solos send chills up my spine, even after all these years.

At least there’s a couple of pics in here you might like.   :D


Hmmm, I took you for a brunette, not a blond, Rush. 


Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 05, 2022, 08:48:10 PM
Hmmm, I took you for a brunette, not a blond, Rush. 




Uh, yeah, that’s me, I still look like that, uh huh, yep.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 06, 2022, 05:53:05 AM
Nobody likes Pink Floyd?  I still put Dark Side of the Moon in my top five, maybe top, period.  I never get tired of it.

Tim

Love DSotM, just didn't think I needed to list it, any classic rock lover has this in their library. Love other Floyd, and some of DG's solo albums. Raise My Rent is a fantastic piece.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 06, 2022, 06:03:39 AM
I also love Pink Floyd, Lynyrd Skynyrd and all the classic southern rock of the 70s. But my all time favorite band is Muse, especially the early stuff, late 90s, early 2000s. Genre is progressive alternative or something. Go figure. I don’t like much anything else “progressive”.

Absolutely, love Muse, intersting stuff. I like some progressive, but not others.

Let's add some earlier Genesis, I'd say Trick of the Tail is the last good one, although I might stretch that to Duke. Abacab and beyond is right out, they sold out to make money and fill stadiums.

And let's not forget one of the most incredible live performances ever, Queen's 20min at Live Aid, that man owned that crowd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iU5GuBL9SM

Another group I'm somewhat fascinated with is Talk Talk, going in a five album stretch from being a new romantic Duran Duran wanna be to going far into experimental music. The middle album, "The Colour of Spring", is in my top five. A great Talk Talk live performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IaRrlofgfw





Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Bamaflyer on January 06, 2022, 07:53:34 AM
My problem with Lynyrd Skynyrd was, IMO, poor musicianship.  Essentially a glorified garage band.

Really? The piano player was classically trained for one. Steve Gaines, amazing guitar payer, listen to their last recorded album, Street Survivors, and you’ll see. Respect your opinion but don’t agree with it.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 06, 2022, 07:58:05 AM
I never had a Queen album, but I never minded them. However a month or so ago I saw the movie Bohemian Rhapsody, and thought it was outstanding. I learned a lot about the band.  Unlike a lot or rock movies, they didn’t overly dwell in the sex and drugs, and spent more time on the rock and roll.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 06, 2022, 07:59:18 AM
Really? The piano player was classically trained for one. Steve Gaines, amazing guitar payer, listen to their last recorded album, Street Survivors, and you’ll see. Respect your opinion but don’t agree with it.
Bamaflyer 1, Satan 0.


Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 06, 2022, 08:34:15 AM
My problem with Lynyrd Skynyrd was, IMO, poor musicianship.  Essentially a glorified garage band.

Like bamaflyer I’m trying to figure out what you mean by that. Their playing is incredibly tight. But I will say that for all bands and all genres, I generally only like about 5% of their songs, if that. Lynyrd Skynyrd is no exception. What I love about Muse is the reverse, I like 95% of their songs.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: TimRB on January 06, 2022, 02:59:28 PM
However a month or so ago I saw the movie Bohemian Rhapsody, and thought it was outstanding.

If you want to be really impressed, look at one of the side-by-side Rami/Freddy comparison videos of Rami Malek's performance of Live Aid. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-JCVQJ-caA

Edit:  That video is just an excerpt.  If you find a full-length one, you'll see that Malek studied and duplicated Freddie's entire performance.

Tim
Title: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 06, 2022, 03:25:37 PM
If you want to be really impressed, look at one of the side-by-side Rami/Freddy comparison videos of Rami Malek's performance of Live Aid. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-JCVQJ-caA

Edit:  That video is just an excerpt.  If you find a full-length one, you'll see that Malek studied and duplicated Freddie's entire performance.

Tim
Holy crap, that’s amazing. When the movie started my wife and I thought they overdid his buck teeth, but I stopped the movie and checked out pictures of Freddy Mercury, and they were spot on with the teeth.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 06, 2022, 03:55:34 PM
Wow! That is amazing! I saw the movie and I also saw live aid but never together like that. Freddy Mercury is one of my favorite artists, his early death was so tragic.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 06, 2022, 04:12:31 PM
Wow! That is amazing! I saw the movie and I also saw live aid but never together like that. Freddy Mercury is one of my favorite artists, his early death was so tragic.
Agreed. Lots of early deaths in rock and roll.

Then again we need to buckle down as a society and decide what kind of world we are going to leave for Keith Richards.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: jb1842 on January 06, 2022, 04:38:42 PM
Agreed. Lots of early deaths in rock and roll.

Then again we need to buckle down as a society and decide what kind of world we are going to leave for Keith Richards.

We need to put him in charge of FAAs Medical Branch. He obviously knows something.....or is a clone.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Lucifer on January 06, 2022, 06:21:08 PM
Agreed. Lots of early deaths in rock and roll.

Then again we need to buckle down as a society and decide what kind of world we are going to leave for Keith Richards.

Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 12, 2022, 03:38:01 AM
I have a steamer trunk full of old vinyl. Need to get a turntable.  That being said, I stream music now on phone and through a firestick.

Current extremely partial Playlist.

Blur
The Charlatans
The Dandy Warhols
The Clash
New Order
Sonic Youth
Beck
Bush
The Kinks
Garbage
Elastica
The Beatles
Silversun Pickups
King Crimson
The Rolling Stones
The Yardbirds
Cream
Elvis Costello

Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 12, 2022, 06:34:22 AM
I could never get into the Beatles for some reason. That whole Beatlemania thing just bypassed me.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: jb1842 on January 12, 2022, 06:43:53 AM
I could never get into the Beatles for some reason. That whole Beatlemania thing just bypassed me.

Same here. Beatles, U2, Nirvana. All influential. All overrated to me.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 12, 2022, 06:54:53 AM
The Clash
New Order
Sonic Youth
Beck

Reminds me of my alternative music clubbing days, 35 years ago lol.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Lucifer on January 12, 2022, 06:55:37 AM
I could never get into the Beatles for some reason. That whole Beatlemania thing just bypassed me.


Same here. Beatles, U2, Nirvana. All influential. All overrated to me.


  It's all about marketing and hype.  Each of those groups had something good, but not everything.  But they did have expert marketing.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: jb1842 on January 12, 2022, 07:01:23 AM


  It's all about marketing and hype.  Each of those groups had something good, but not everything.  But they did have expert marketing.

I agree. The Beatles were foreign, so the chicks were all about that. U2 were the first woke retards, so those wannabes flocked to them. Nirvana was able to convince a bunch of potheads their music was good. But at least Nirvana had Dave Grohl, and I love Foo Fighters.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 12, 2022, 07:24:32 AM
U2

U2 was good up to and including Joshua Tree, a fabulous album. After that, I have little interest.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: jb1842 on January 12, 2022, 07:33:09 AM
U2 was good up to and including Joshua Tree, a fabulous album. After that, I have little interest.

They do have some good songs and I would probably like them more if they weren't such big hypocrites and try to preach and talk down to us normal people. Good music can only go so far.

One band who absolutely sucks and I will turn off no matter what is B-52s. Such a waste of a great band name on terrible, screeching, horrific sounds.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 12, 2022, 08:55:09 AM
Reminds me of my alternative music clubbing days, 35 years ago lol.

Me too. I was in bands back then in my misspent youth and that's what we played.  Good times.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 12, 2022, 09:03:35 AM
Me too. I was in bands back then in my misspent youth and that's what we played.  Good times.

Loved alternative music clubs, loved alternative music girls even more!
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 12, 2022, 09:04:41 AM
I could never get into the Beatles for some reason. That whole Beatlemania thing just bypassed me.
Same with me!  I much prefer The Rolling Stones from that same era vs the Beatles.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 12, 2022, 09:06:11 AM
Same here. Beatles, U2, Nirvana. All influential. All overrated to me.
Agreed. U2 and Nirvana were too angsty and took themselves too seriously.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 12, 2022, 09:12:53 AM
A real early 80's gem is an album called "Soul Mining" by thethe, not well known but a favorite since the 1st day I heard it.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 12, 2022, 09:22:05 AM
My favorite band, can't even remember the name we used. I'm second from the left. Sophomore year in HS. 1965 or 66
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Bamaflyer on January 12, 2022, 09:59:05 AM
I could never get into the Beatles for some reason. That whole Beatlemania thing just bypassed me.

When the Beatles became big I didn’t care for them that much either. I was into the Beach Boys then, but I did like The Searchers, a Brit band. Shortly after my favorite Brit band was The Animals and Stones. First vinyl I bought was the Stones first or second album. Probably still have it.

As the Beatles evolve I got into them more starting with their Rubber Soul album I think. My favorite Beatle album though is Let It Be. I was into Motown big time, Four Tops and Temptations. Temptations, IMO, were the best Motown group.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 12, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
When the Beatles became big I didn’t care for them that much either. I was into the Beach Boys then, but I did like The Searchers, a Brit band. Shortly after my favorite Brit band was The Animals and Stones. First vinyl I bought was the Stones first or second album. Probably still have it.

As the Beatles evolve I got into them more starting with their Rubber Soul album I think. My favorite Beatle album though is Let It Be. I was into Motown big time, Four Tops and Temptations. Temptations, IMO, were the best Motown group.

I did like Motown.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: elwood blues on January 12, 2022, 02:49:36 PM
My favorite band, can't even remember the name we used. I'm second from the left. Sophomore year in HS. 1965 or 66

Nice pants, dude!
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Little Joe on January 12, 2022, 02:58:41 PM
Same with me!  I much prefer The Rolling Stones from that same era vs the Beatles.
Back then there seemed to be two camps.
1.  Love the Beatles and hate the Stones
2.  Love the Stones and hate the Beatles.

Of course, there were exceptions.  I was one of them.  I like both of them at different times.  But mostly, I only liked the Stones when I was drifting into a different consciousness.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 12, 2022, 03:13:19 PM
Yer all a bunch of old fogies!
 ;)
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: jb1842 on January 12, 2022, 03:15:48 PM
Yer all a bunch of old fogies!
 ;)

Makes you wonder the ages of all on here. I bet the average age is over 60. I bet I'm one of the youngest at 43.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 12, 2022, 03:29:17 PM
Makes you wonder the ages of all on here. I bet the average age is over 60. I bet I'm one of the youngest at 43.
GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 12, 2022, 06:43:58 PM
Same with me!  I much prefer The Rolling Stones from that same era vs the Beatles.

The Stones Muscle Shoals recordings!!!!!
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 13, 2022, 03:11:22 AM
I like the Stones and Beatles, but the Beatles were more cutting edge. Many don't see that looking back but they just were and in a huge way. The Stones were always just a great blues rock band.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 13, 2022, 06:09:09 AM
I like the Stones and Beatles, but the Beatles were more cutting edge. Many don't see that looking back but they just were and in a huge way. The Stones were always just a great blues rock band.

The Revolver album changed rock and roll, many new recording techniques used on the album that soon spead through the recording industry. There's a decent book on it if you're interested:

https://www.amazon.com/Revolver-Beatles-Re-Imagined-Rock-Roll/dp/1617130095/ref=sr_1_1?crid=VMFUTPWM0MG&keywords=beatles+revolver+book&qid=1642079226&sprefix=beatles+revolver+book%2Caps%2C62&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 13, 2022, 08:09:55 AM
I like the Stones and Beatles, but the Beatles were more cutting edge. Many don't see that looking back but they just were and in a huge way. The Stones were always just a great blues rock band.
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What’s more cutting edge than “I saw a red door and I want it painted black”? 
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 13, 2022, 08:30:55 AM
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What’s more cutting edge than “I saw a red door and I want it painted black”? 

You got me there Stan!
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 21, 2022, 06:08:42 AM
RIP Meat Loaf

Bat Out of Hell was an anthem album when I was in college.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Lucifer on January 21, 2022, 06:10:55 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10426153/Bat-Hell-singer-Meat-Loaf-dies-74.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailceleb

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/01/21/11/53200363-10426153-Meat_Loaf_right_with_long_time_collaborator_Jim_Steinman_left_in-a-119_1642766370311.jpg)
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 21, 2022, 06:11:04 AM
RIP Meat Loaf

Bat Out of Hell was an anthem album when I was in college.

It was, but I was never a fan. But I went along with it since the girls really seemed to dig "Paradise by the Dashboard Light."
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Username on January 21, 2022, 07:34:43 AM
RIP Meat Loaf

Bat Out of Hell was an anthem album when I was in college.
He was brilliant in the movie "Rocky Horror Picture Show"
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 21, 2022, 07:39:42 AM
It was, but I was never a fan. But I went along with it since the girls really seemed to dig "Paradise by the Dashboard Light."
There were a lot of other really good songs on that album, including Bat Out of Hell.
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Post by: Mr Pou on January 21, 2022, 07:55:54 AM
There were a lot of other really good songs on that album, including Bat Out of Hell.

Sorry, the guy just wasn't my cuppa joe.
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Post by: Lucifer on January 21, 2022, 08:12:17 AM
What made Meat Loaf such a success was his collaboration with Jim Steinman.

Jim Steinman wrote the lyrics and composed the music, and Meat Loaf delivered it with a voice and style that brought it all to life.

Unfortunately the people that marketed the music focused on Meat Loaf and wanted Jim Steinman relegated to the foot notes, a move that Meat Loaf opposed and deeply hurt Jim Steinman.   To add more tension, the marketers wanted multiple albums which Steinman wouldn't do as he did not create music for commercial reasons. 
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Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 21, 2022, 08:38:44 AM
Sorry, the guy just wasn't my cuppa joe.

Likewise; when my "friends" wanted to annoy me, they would play "Paradise".
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Post by: Anthony on January 21, 2022, 12:10:06 PM
Groups and entertainers I HATE that everyone thinks I should like.

Meatloaf
Bruce Springsteen
Elton John
Journey
The Eagles
REO Speedwagon
Billy Joel

(I'll think of more)
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Post by: Bamaflyer on January 21, 2022, 04:24:53 PM
Groups and entertainers I HATE that everyone thinks I should like.

Meatloaf
Bruce Springsteen
Elton John
Journey
The Eagles
REO Speedwagon
Billy Joel

Opposite here…like em all, some more than others, some before they got so f’ kin political! Looking at you Springsteen! 😡

(I'll think of more)
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Post by: Rush on January 21, 2022, 06:44:35 PM


I hate when they get political. Musicians suffer from the delusion that because they have musical talent that they are somehow smarter and wiser than the rest of us when it comes to politics and current events. Nothing could be further from the truth. If anything it makes them worse. They take on the narcissism of the disconnected ruling class.
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Post by: nddons on January 21, 2022, 11:11:35 PM
Groups and entertainers I HATE that everyone thinks I should like.

Meatloaf
Bruce Springsteen
Elton John
Journey
The Eagles
REO Speedwagon
Billy Joel

(I'll think of more)
Ha. I like them all except for Bruce Springsteen. He sounds like he’s taking a shit every time he sings. And then the politics.

I’m not an Elton John fan, but I did attend my first concert on a date with a hot Italian girl named Doryce. Elton John and Kiki Dee at the Chicago Stadium, 16 years old in 1976.  Took my dad’s Chrysler Town and Country station wagon.  So that memory is embedded in my cranium.

I hate Bob Dylan. Same with Jimmie Hendrix.  Not a Deep Purple fan.
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Post by: Rush on January 22, 2022, 03:43:24 AM
Ha. I like them all except for Bruce Springsteen. He sounds like he’s taking a shit every time he sings. And then the politics.

I’m not an Elton John fan, but I did attend my first concert on a date with a hot Italian girl named Doryce. Elton John and Kiki Dee at the Chicago Stadium, 16 years old in 1976.  Took my dad’s Chrysler Town and Country station wagon.  So that memory is embedded in my cranium.

I hate Bob Dylan. Same with Jimmie Hendrix.  Not a Deep Purple fan.

Not crazy about Dylan, but I love “I Shall be Released” (written by Dylan) as sung by Levon Helm (The Band) or Joe Cocker. Speaking of Cocker, “Unchain My Heart” might be my favorite of his covers. His performances, a combination of air guitar and epileptic fit, are pretty entertaining. I’ve always had a thing for Levon Helm. “Up on Cripple Creek” is one of my favorites.

I don’t know Cocker’s politics and I don’t want to know. I can more easily forgive the present day English for having the wrong politics because it’s in their DNA to kneel before a ruling class. But when Americans want to submit to a ruling class, they are betraying their ancestors who came here to get away from that.
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Post by: Anthony on January 22, 2022, 03:57:20 AM
Ha. I like them all except for Bruce Springsteen. He sounds like he’s taking a shit every time he sings. And then the politics.

I’m not an Elton John fan, but I did attend my first concert on a date with a hot Italian girl named Doryce. Elton John and Kiki Dee at the Chicago Stadium, 16 years old in 1976.  Took my dad’s Chrysler Town and Country station wagon.  So that memory is embedded in my cranium.

I hate Bob Dylan. Same with Jimmie Hendrix.  Not a Deep Purple fan.

Dylan is a great songwriter but he can't sing. Love Hendrix and Deep Purple.

Hate Tom Petty.  Sounds like Dylan.
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Post by: Anthony on January 22, 2022, 03:58:29 AM
Dylan is a great songwriter but he can't sing. Love Hendrix and Deep Purple.

There are a few Elton John songs I really like. One is Madman Across the Water. Excellent.

Hate Tom Petty.  Sounds like Dylan.

I can't type on my phone. I quoted myself again.  See in the quotes Stan et al.
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Post by: Rush on January 22, 2022, 04:25:14 AM
I can't type on my phone. I quoted myself again.  See in the quotes Stan et al.

I like some Elton John. “Sacrifice”.
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Post by: Little Joe on January 22, 2022, 04:48:18 AM
I did attend my first concert on a date with a hot Italian girl named Doryce.   

<snip>

So that memory is embedded in my cranium.
Ha.  I see what you did there.
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Post by: Anthony on January 22, 2022, 05:31:31 AM
I like some Elton John. “Sacrifice”.

Funeral for a friend is a great song.also.
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Post by: Bamaflyer on January 22, 2022, 08:11:11 AM
Dylan is a great songwriter but he can't sing. Love Hendrix and Deep Purple.

Hate Tom Petty.  Sounds like Dylan.

Hate Tom? Wow. Great song writer, not the best singer but his voice fits his songs. Always loved Deep Purple and Hendrix too. Thing is, back in the 60-70s there were many great groups that had different sounds. Some groups pleased everyone, some didn’t. But the artists, for the most part, stuck to their sound while some became “commercialized” musicians. Happened to Chicago after their third album with Peter Cetera and David Foster fucking up what Chicago was.

Ok, I do t particularly care for Queen, although Freddie Mercury has an amazing voice, and definitely Kiss. But, I’m 73 so different period of time appeals to me. YMMV as they say!
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Post by: nddons on January 22, 2022, 08:59:15 AM
Not crazy about Dylan, but I love “I Shall be Released” (written by Dylan) as sung by Levon Helm (The Band) or Joe Cocker. Speaking of Cocker, “Unchain My Heart” might be my favorite of his covers. His performances, a combination of air guitar and epileptic fit, are pretty entertaining. I’ve always had a thing for Levon Helm. “Up on Cripple Creek” is one of my favorites.

I don’t know Cocker’s politics and I don’t want to know. I can more easily forgive the present day English for having the wrong politics because it’s in their DNA to kneel before a ruling class. But when Americans want to submit to a ruling class, they are betraying their ancestors who came here to get away from that.
John Belushi did a great Joe Cocker.

https://youtu.be/aZsOyO_lXD8
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Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 22, 2022, 09:11:45 AM
Groups and entertainers I HATE that everyone thinks I should like.

Meatloaf
Bruce Springsteen
Elton John
Journey
The Eagles
REO Speedwagon
Billy Joel

(I'll think of more)

I like Elton and BJ, great composers and performers and fellow keyboardists, plus Billy is an Islander like me. Knew of him before he became "popular." Springstein sucks, his fans think "Born in the USA" is some kind of patriotic anthem. Like a few Eagles and Journey tunes, the rest is drek.
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Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 22, 2022, 09:44:28 AM
I can more easily forgive the present day English for having the wrong politics because it’s in their DNA to kneel before a ruling class. But when Americans want to submit to a ruling class, they are betraying their ancestors who came here to get away from that.

The British model was that the gentry in “the big house” in each village would “care” for the farmers and assorted peasants who made the gentry’s life pleasant. Shame actually came the gentry’s way if they didn’t care for their loyal retainers in their illness and old age. If a farmer or peasant had injury or misfortune, the gentry would bring food and care. Gentry was even used for counseling … hat in hand, a peasant could visit the big house and talk over a problem.

That model was destroyed when the government took more and more “responsibility” and subsequently taxed the big houses into decay, while at the same time removing the vital community connection between giver and receiver.
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Post by: Rush on January 22, 2022, 10:51:55 AM
It was, but I was never a fan. But I went along with it since the girls really seemed to dig "Paradise by the Dashboard Light."

I didn’t particularly like the song musically, but I loved the story it told. This performance with Karla DeVito illustrates it so well:

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Post by: Rush on January 22, 2022, 10:58:17 AM
The British model was that the gentry in “the big house” in each village would “care” for the farmers and assorted peasants who made the gentry’s life pleasant. Shame actually came the gentry’s way if they didn’t care for their loyal retainers in their illness and old age. If a farmer or peasant had injury or misfortune, the gentry would bring food and care. Gentry was even used for counseling … hat in hand, a peasant could visit the big house and talk over a problem.

That model was destroyed when the government took more and more “responsibility” and subsequently taxed the big houses into decay, while at the same time removing the vital community connection between giver and receiver.

I was referring to the royalty but I guess it’s ironic that the gentry who came to America to get out from under the thumb of royalty turned around and bought slaves from Africa. However I’m not sure how many of them were Tories. Some didn’t come here to be independent, but were just colonizing for profit.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 22, 2022, 11:17:36 AM
The very first record I owned was a 45 single, Nancy Sinatra. “Summer Wine” and “Sugar Town”. I was just a kid and you’d think I’d won the lottery. And we had a new record player just for us kids. Before that the only one in the house was Dad’s back in his den where he’d play his classical music.
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Post by: nddons on January 22, 2022, 11:21:17 AM
I didn’t particularly like the song musically, but I loved the story it told. This performance with Karla DeVito illustrates it so well:


Karla DeVito and Patti Russo were both smoking hot.  Meat had good taste in brunettes.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 22, 2022, 11:57:40 AM
Hate Tom? Wow. Great song writer, not the best singer but his voice fits his songs. Always loved Deep Purple and Hendrix too. Thing is, back in the 60-70s there were many great groups that had different sounds. Some groups pleased everyone, some didn’t. But the artists, for the most part, stuck to their sound while some became “commercialized” musicians. Happened to Chicago after their third album with Peter Cetera and David Foster fucking up what Chicago was.

Ok, I do t particularly care for Queen, although Freddie Mercury has an amazing voice, and definitely Kiss. But, I’m 73 so different period of time appeals to me. YMMV as they say!

Well maybe I don't hate Tom Petty.   Just tired of it all. 

What happened to Chicago was the death of lead guitarist and lead singer Terry Kath from an accidental shooting.  I like the 1st two Chicago albums a lot.
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Post by: Little Joe on January 22, 2022, 12:25:00 PM

What happened to Chicago was the death of lead guitarist and lead singer Terry Kath from an accidental shooting.
Did he go hunting with Dick Cheney?
Or did he piss of a Clinton and shoot himself in the back of the head a couple of times?
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Post by: Bamaflyer on January 22, 2022, 07:38:49 PM
Well maybe I don't hate Tom Petty.   Just tired of it all. 

What happened to Chicago was the death of lead guitarist and lead singer Terry Kath from an accidental shooting.  I like the 1st two Chicago albums a lot.

Yeah a tragedy with Terry Kath. Hendrix even commented that he thought Kath was great. Third album good too, and the live album (4th album) wasn’t bad either.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: elwood blues on January 22, 2022, 08:02:27 PM
Groups and entertainers I HATE that everyone thinks I should like.

Meatloaf
Bruce Springsteen
Elton John
Journey
The Eagles
REO Speedwagon
Billy Joel

Ditto.

(I'll think of more)

Ditto.

I do think Jim Morrison had a voice as smooth as silk.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 22, 2022, 08:28:09 PM
The Traveling Wilburys
Abba
Roy Orbison
Gordon Lightfoot
Joan Baez

And you haven’t lived until you’ve heard Dave Dudley’s “Tell Them What We’re Fighting For.” On the flip side was his “Coffee Coffee Coffee,” which Rush would love.
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Post by: nddons on January 22, 2022, 09:52:48 PM
Well maybe I don't hate Tom Petty.   Just tired of it all. 

What happened to Chicago was the death of lead guitarist and lead singer Terry Kath from an accidental shooting.  I like the 1st two Chicago albums a lot.
James Pankow went to my high school, though roughly 10 years before me. So when Terry Kath died, my high school kind of felt how it would affect the band.
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Post by: nddons on January 22, 2022, 09:54:38 PM
The Traveling Wilburys
Abba
Roy Orbison
Gordon Lightfoot
Joan Baez

And you haven’t lived until you’ve heard Dave Dudley’s “Tell Them What We’re Fighting For.” On the flip side was his “Coffee Coffee Coffee,” which Rush would love.
Gordon Lightfoot is outstanding.
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Post by: Anthony on January 23, 2022, 03:05:46 AM


Ditto.

I do think Jim Morrison had a voice as smooth as silk.

The Doors are my favorite band.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 23, 2022, 03:08:39 AM
Did he go hunting with Dick Cheney?
Or did he piss of a Clinton and shoot himself in the back of the head a couple of times?

Kath shot himself in the head playing with a loaded gun he thought was unloaded.  Sad.  All guns are ALWAYS LOADED. First rule.
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Post by: Rush on January 23, 2022, 05:36:41 AM
On the flip side was his “Coffee Coffee Coffee,” which Rush would love.

Just to illustrate how true that is, I woke up this morning and read that and said, “I don’t understand. What’s she talking about? Why would….”   Then I went in the kitchen and made my huge mug of coffee. Now my neurons are firing.
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Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 23, 2022, 07:19:05 AM
Just to illustrate how true that is, I woke up this morning and read that and said, “I don’t understand. What’s she talking about? Why would….”   Then I went in the kitchen and made my huge mug of coffee. Now my neurons are firing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsvVULs4meo
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Post by: Rush on January 23, 2022, 07:37:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsvVULs4meo

That’s me! Only difference is I don’t put sugar in.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 23, 2022, 05:49:59 PM
Don Wilson, Rhythm Guitarist and Founding Member of The Ventures, Dies at 88.


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Post by: Anthony on January 24, 2022, 02:29:46 AM
Don Wilson, Rhythm Guitarist and Founding Member of The Ventures, Dies at 88.



The Ventures were innovative.  Original instrumental surf sound. Did the theme for Hawaii Five-O also.  Too cool!
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Post by: Mr Pou on January 24, 2022, 06:12:08 AM
Happened to Chicago after their third album with Peter Cetera and David Foster fucking up what Chicago was.

Yup, love early Chicago, hate love ballad Chicago.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 24, 2022, 06:18:27 AM
Nancy Sinatra.

Still epic, and I imagine Anthony approved!

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Post by: Little Joe on January 24, 2022, 06:34:10 AM
I liked Nancy till she turned traitor.
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Post by: Mr Pou on January 24, 2022, 06:35:23 AM
I do think Jim Morrison had a voice as smooth as silk.

There was a time when I could sing every Doors song, and I'll bet I could still sing some of them. And Ray Manzarek was one hell of a keyboard player. This video, recorded a few years before his death, is fucking outstanding and well worth ten minutes of your time.

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Post by: Little Joe on January 24, 2022, 06:41:36 AM
The Doors were one of my all-time favorites.  That clip was awesome.  Thanks.
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Post by: nddons on January 24, 2022, 07:36:25 AM
I liked Nancy till she turned traitor.
?????

You’re not thinking of Hanoi Jane Fonda, are you? 
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Post by: Bamaflyer on January 24, 2022, 08:17:43 AM
?????

You’re not thinking of Hanoi Jane Fonda, are you?

I don’t recall Nancy being anti-American. I immediately thought he meant Fonda too.
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Post by: Little Joe on January 24, 2022, 08:28:36 AM
?????

You’re not thinking of Hanoi Jane Fonda, are you?
I hate Monday mornings.  Was out kind of late last night watching the Royal Philharmonic in Orlando.  Paying for it this morning.

I can go back to enjoying Nancy's video again now.
Sorry for the confusion, but Thanks.
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Post by: nddons on January 24, 2022, 09:05:25 AM
I hate Monday mornings.  Was out kind of late last night watching the Royal Philharmonic in Orlando.  Paying for it this morning.

I can go back to enjoying Nancy's video again now.
Sorry for the confusion, but Thanks.
If Anthony hasn’t worn out the YouTube video yet. Lol
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Post by: Anthony on January 24, 2022, 10:01:45 AM
If Anthony hasn’t worn out the YouTube video yet. Lol

Nancy Pelosi's?  Guilty as charged sir.
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Post by: Jim Logajan on January 24, 2022, 10:10:32 AM
Still epic, and I imagine Anthony approved!



That's a Scopitone. When that video was shot there was no MTV-like outlet where it could be shown. It was intended to be shown on a jukebox with a video component. The videos were on 16mm, resulting in high quality images, so no Youtube video will ever do justice to the originals. The video jukeboxes were generally in bars so the videos were geared toward that target audience, not the Mitch Miller or Lawrence Welk audiences.

In the spirit of scientific edification, I present a couple of other example Scopitones where the video and the music and the lyrics all clash, IMHO:





Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Little Joe on January 24, 2022, 11:02:01 AM
Thanks Jim.  That was, um, educational.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 24, 2022, 11:27:56 AM
Did she say four kids from one to four and another on the way?  Wow.  There was a time that was a woman’s best fantasy. To have a comfortable home she took care of, raised lots of children, let the man earn the money. Women actually have a strong biological drive to have babies and then stay home to care for them, or did, until feminism. It’s why little girls love to play with dolls.  I guess men used to have the fantasy of a woman keeping a home for him and caring for his children and being happy to see him when he came home in the evening. Cook his breakfast and dinner. I guess men don’t dare say they want that nowadays. And women don’t dare say they want to stay home and raise children. What have we done? Erased a million years of biology. We can’t even say we are all either men or women.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 24, 2022, 12:06:05 PM
Did she say four kids from one to four and another on the way?  Wow.  There was a time that was a woman’s best fantasy. To have a comfortable home she took care of, raised lots of children, let the man earn the money. Women actually have a strong biological drive to have babies and then stay home to care for them, or did, until feminism. It’s why little girls love to play with dolls.  I guess men used to have the fantasy of a woman keeping a home for him and caring for his children and being happy to see him when he came home in the evening. Cook his breakfast and dinner. I guess men don’t dare say they want that nowadays. And women don’t dare say they want to stay home and raise children. What have we done? Erased a million years of biology. We can’t even say we are all either men or women.

Ever notice the wage "stagnation" in middle class job wages started at the same time droves of women entered the workforce?

Nah, just a coincidence.
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Post by: Lucifer on January 24, 2022, 12:14:31 PM
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 24, 2022, 12:30:53 PM
Ever notice the wage "stagnation" in middle class job wages started at the same time droves of women entered the workforce?

Nah, just a coincidence.

We essentially doubled the workforce.  Wages are based on supply and demand which is exactly what you're saying, so......
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 24, 2022, 12:33:04 PM
If Anthony hasn’t worn out the YouTube video yet. Lol

I like Nancy Sinatra but don't find her that hot.  Just a cool period piece and reflection of the times which were, ahh, interesting.  Even as a little kid I could tell the 60s were different.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Little Joe on January 24, 2022, 01:10:08 PM
We essentially doubled the workforce.  Wages are based on supply and demand which is exactly what you're saying, so......
And the additions to the workforce were much less demanding of higher salaries.

As an employer I made lots of offers to men and women.  The offers were basically similar, but invariably, the men asked for more.  The women said "thank you".  That explains why my men were paid more than my women.  I wasn't about to give all the women a raise because a man I wanted to hire asked for more.  Plus, on an ongoing basis men would ask for raises.  Women would ask for (or just take) time off.
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Post by: Rush on January 24, 2022, 01:32:01 PM
And the additions to the workforce were much less demanding of higher salaries.

As an employer I made lots of offers to men and women.  The offers were basically similar, but invariably, the men asked for more.  The women said "thank you".  That explains why my men were paid more than my women.  I wasn't about to give all the women a raise because a man I wanted to hire asked for more.  Plus, on an ongoing basis men would ask for raises.  Women would ask for (or just take) time off.

Men are more productive. Work longer hours. Some women pursue a career as aggressively as men but they pay a huge price. They don’t ever see their children. But most women take a lot more time off to deal with sick kids, etc. than men. The “wage gap” is totally women driven, it’s not sexism.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Number7 on January 24, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
Ever notice the wage "stagnation" in middle class job wages started at the same time droves of women entered the workforce?

Nah, just a coincidence.

Women entered the work force in large numbers due to WWII.

Most of the men were 'over there.' Women manned the assembly lines churning out ships, tents, tanks,  planes and guns.

In the sixties women followed gloria steinem into burning their bras and declaring themselves independent of men, which really meant abandoning children to day care workers to raise, instead of parental input all along throughout the developmental phases of childhood.

Now when a woman says she wants to find a husband, settle down and raise babies the asshole contingent thinks she somehow doesn't have the right to decide that for herself. Public school drones (teachers) are so fucking busy following whatever bullshit the media tells them they have to believe that they offer, little, to no actual education or guidance.

When women stayed home while the children grew up, children knew they harps that anchor, mom would be available should anything bad happen, and children grew up with far more confidence and much less angst.

Kids never needed therapy in those days. They had mom to show them the pm the right way to behave.p and there were consequences for straying. Now the fucking public education sewer intentionally leads children into total abandonment of anything vaguely  resembling responsible behavior and personal consequences for poor behavior and life choices.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 24, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
Women entered the work force in large numbers due to WWII.

Most of the men were 'over there.' Women manned the assembly lines churning out ships, tents, tanks,  planes and guns.

In the sixties women followed gloria steinem into burning their bras and declaring themselves independent of men, which really meant abandoning children to day care workers to raise, instead of parental input all along throughout the developmental phases of childhood.

Now when a woman says she wants to find a husband, settle down and raise babies the asshole contingent thinks she somehow doesn't have the right to decide that for herself. Public school drones (teachers) are so fucking busy following whatever bullshit the media tells them they have to believe that they offer, little, to no actual education or guidance.

When women stayed home while the children grew up, children knew they harps that anchor, mom would be available should anything bad happen, and children grew up with far more confidence and much less angst.

Kids never needed therapy in those days. They had mom to show them the pm the right way to behave.p and there were consequences for straying. Now the fucking public education sewer intentionally leads children into total abandonment of anything vaguely  resembling responsible behavior and personal consequences for poor behavior and life choices.

Yep, all of this is true. After the war, when the men were back and the women didn’t have to work anymore, and technology was bringing labor saving devices like washing machines and vacuum cleaners and electric sewing machines, this was the golden age to be a housewife. But a problem developed. Before modern labor saving devices, you had servants and the children did work and there was a strong community. Indeed you had a lot of children. You were kept very busy. But then came the pill. Between the pill and labor saving machines, the productive meaning of a woman’s life was reduced. Instead of 8 children (3 of which died when young) and managing a farm, or complex urban household with servants (even middle and lower classes had “help”) women were now having only 2 or 3 children who would soon be in school all week, and the machines cut out the need for servants or to spend all day working. They grew bored, but worse, their meaning of life was reduced. Depression ensued, many got Valium from their doctors. They began to envy the men who had all the “fun and glory” of jobs outside the home. They were ripe for Gloria Steinem.

Some women found meaning in volunteer work, and being involved in the church. But too many bought the feminist lie that women could basically BE a man, do all the things a man can do, and not need a man. Worse, feminism told women that all their problems were the fault of men, male oppression, patriarchy, when nothing is further from the truth. What kept women at home was reproductive biology, period.

Birth control, modern technology, and feminism making women hostile to men has resulted in our species failing to do our biological mandate: propagate. We are headed for a massive population collapse.
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Post by: Little Joe on January 24, 2022, 02:51:16 PM
Yep, all of this is true. After the war, when the men were back and the women didn’t have to work anymore, and technology was bringing labor saving devices like washing machines and vacuum cleaners and electric sewing machines, this was the golden age to be a housewife. But a problem developed. Before modern labor saving devices, you had servants and the children did work and there was a strong community. Indeed you had a lot of children. You were kept very busy. But then came the pill. Between the pill and labor saving machines, the productive meaning of a woman’s life was reduced. Instead of 8 children (3 of which died when young) and managing a farm, or complex urban household with servants (even middle and lower classes had “help”) women were now having only 2 or 3 children who would soon be in school all week, and the machines cut out the need for servants or to spend all day working. They grew bored, but worse, their meaning of life was reduced. Depression ensued, many got Valium from their doctors. They began to envy the men who had all the “fun and glory” of jobs outside the home. They were ripe for Gloria Steinem.

Some women found meaning in volunteer work, and being involved in the church. But too many bought the feminist lie that women could basically BE a man, do all the things a man can do, and not need a man. Worse, feminism told women that all their problems were the fault of men, male oppression, patriarchy, when nothing is further from the truth. What kept women at home was reproductive biology, period.

Birth control, modern technology, and feminism making women hostile to men has resulted in our species failing to do our biological mandate: propagate. We are headed for a massive population collapse.
That is one of the best summations I have read.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 24, 2022, 02:59:42 PM
Interesting what comes of posting a Jody Miller music video.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: nddons on January 24, 2022, 03:30:41 PM
Interesting what comes of posting a Jody Miller music video.
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Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 24, 2022, 03:44:22 PM


Your taste in music is similar to my husband’s. I sent him that link.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 24, 2022, 04:15:27 PM
Welcome to Internet forums.

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Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 25, 2022, 06:07:20 AM
We are headed for a massive population collapse.

We as in western civilization, in other areas of the world not so much. Reason #1634 this country is going down the tubes.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 25, 2022, 06:24:14 AM
Women entered the work force in large numbers due to WWII.

Most of the men were 'over there.' Women manned the assembly lines churning out ships, tents, tanks,  planes and guns.

In the sixties women followed gloria steinem into burning their bras and declaring themselves independent of men, which really meant abandoning children to day care workers to raise, instead of parental input all along throughout the developmental phases of childhood.

Now when a woman says she wants to find a husband, settle down and raise babies the asshole contingent thinks she somehow doesn't have the right to decide that for herself. Public school drones (teachers) are so fucking busy following whatever bullshit the media tells them they have to believe that they offer, little, to no actual education or guidance.

When women stayed home while the children grew up, children knew they harps that anchor, mom would be available should anything bad happen, and children grew up with far more confidence and much less angst.

Kids never needed therapy in those days. They had mom to show them the pm the right way to behave.p and there were consequences for straying. Now the fucking public education sewer intentionally leads children into total abandonment of anything vaguely  resembling responsible behavior and personal consequences for poor behavior and life choices.

Very, very well said and accurate.  We've allowed Far Leftists, the MEDIA and Education destroy our society.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 25, 2022, 06:27:25 AM
Yep, all of this is true. After the war, when the men were back and the women didn’t have to work anymore, and technology was bringing labor saving devices like washing machines and vacuum cleaners and electric sewing machines, this was the golden age to be a housewife. But a problem developed. Before modern labor saving devices, you had servants and the children did work and there was a strong community. Indeed you had a lot of children. You were kept very busy. But then came the pill. Between the pill and labor saving machines, the productive meaning of a woman’s life was reduced. Instead of 8 children (3 of which died when young) and managing a farm, or complex urban household with servants (even middle and lower classes had “help”) women were now having only 2 or 3 children who would soon be in school all week, and the machines cut out the need for servants or to spend all day working. They grew bored, but worse, their meaning of life was reduced. Depression ensued, many got Valium from their doctors. They began to envy the men who had all the “fun and glory” of jobs outside the home. They were ripe for Gloria Steinem.

Some women found meaning in volunteer work, and being involved in the church. But too many bought the feminist lie that women could basically BE a man, do all the things a man can do, and not need a man. Worse, feminism told women that all their problems were the fault of men, male oppression, patriarchy, when nothing is further from the truth. What kept women at home was reproductive biology, period.

Birth control, modern technology, and feminism making women hostile to men has resulted in our species failing to do our biological mandate: propagate. We are headed for a massive population collapse.

Also very, very well said and accurate. 
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Rush on January 25, 2022, 06:34:40 AM
We as in western civilization, in other areas of the world not so much. Reason #1634 this country is going down the tubes.

That is correct. As countries develop, their birth rates decline. It is associated with women joining the work force, getting access to birth control, and the reversal of the economic impact of children on the household. Pretty much the only areas still with high birth rates are Africa and parts of the Mideast.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Anthony on January 25, 2022, 08:18:15 AM
There was a time when I could sing every Doors song, and I'll bet I could still sing some of them. And Ray Manzarek was one hell of a keyboard player. This video, recorded a few years before his death, is fucking outstanding and well worth ten minutes of your time.


Ray Mansarek was a musical genius, and I'm not even a "keyboard guy" and I can tell that.  I've always played some form of guitar or bass guitar.  But he made the Doors sound along with Krieger and Densmore of course.  Robby Krieger is one of my favorite guitarists also. 
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 25, 2022, 08:30:58 AM
Ray Mansarek was a musical genius, and I'm not even a "keyboard guy" and I can tell that. 

Speaking of musical genius, I'll throw out two others I believe are worthy, Matt Johnson and Mark Hollis.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: elwood blues on January 27, 2022, 02:19:27 PM
There was a time when I could sing every Doors song, and I'll bet I could still sing some of them. And Ray Manzarek was one hell of a keyboard player.

Another song that was underrated was The Spy.
Title: Re: Almighty Vinyl
Post by: Mr Pou on January 27, 2022, 02:28:38 PM
Another song that was underrated was The Spy.

Forgot about that one. Hotel was a pretty good album.