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Title: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Mase on January 21, 2022, 03:10:16 PM
https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/what-a-cluster%E2%80%A6.136217/page-2
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Rush on January 21, 2022, 03:47:41 PM
Skydog asked the question and I answered it. I wasn’t being argumentative. It wasn’t politics. It was company policy in hiring and completely factual.

Somebody has a problem with the TRUTH being talked about.
Title: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on January 21, 2022, 04:28:40 PM
The moderation at PoA is now based on explicitly subjective rules. Best avoided. But if they lock a thread that is an opportunity to invite the participants to come over to PilotSpin via private message.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Number7 on January 21, 2022, 04:30:02 PM
Idiot; insecure liberals who can’t imagine people holding opposing views is the real problem with the moron management at POA.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 21, 2022, 04:58:15 PM
The moderation at PoA is now based on explicitly subjective rules. Best avoided. But if they lock a thread that is an opportunity to invite the participants to come over to PilotSpin via private message.

PoA moderation was, IMHO, operating subjectively at least from 2008{*}, though posters then had an outlet in their pilotspin subforum. The subjectivity progressed over the years as their rules grew and grew and grew. In addition the successor of a moderator is chosen by other moderators, so divergence from the user base was inevitable.

{*} I say 2008 because I believe that is when I created an account on PoA after aviation author Bob Gardner (RIP) left Usenet rec.aviation.piloting newgroup that year with this announcement:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.piloting/c/vKZQkSU3Huw/m/foUVB0wmbBoJ (https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.piloting/c/vKZQkSU3Huw/m/foUVB0wmbBoJ)
Title: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on January 21, 2022, 05:28:31 PM
PoA moderation was, IMHO, operating subjectively at least from 2008{*}, though posters then had an outlet in their pilotspin subforum. The subjectivity progressed over the years as their rules grew and grew and grew. In addition the successor of a moderator is chosen by other moderators, so divergence from the user base was inevitable.

{*} I say 2008 because I believe that is when I created an account on PoA after aviation author Bob Gardner (RIP) left Usenet rec.aviation.piloting newgroup that year with this announcement:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.piloting/c/vKZQkSU3Huw/m/foUVB0wmbBoJ (https://groups.google.com/g/rec.aviation.piloting/c/vKZQkSU3Huw/m/foUVB0wmbBoJ)
I guess these sort of forums do age. And with the successors being chosen by successors the drift seems inevitable.

While there is always some amount of subjectivity in enforcing even objectively defined rules, they now propose to enforce explicitly subjective rules which they base on being able to judge the states of mind of posters. I was shocked to learn of that and that is when I decided to largely stop contributing there. I don’t think anyone is particularly good at mind reading.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Little Joe on January 22, 2022, 04:52:24 AM
I don’t think anyone is particularly good at mind reading.
Aw come on man!  That's not what you think at all!
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: bflynn on January 22, 2022, 05:54:16 AM
No, I don't think it was Rush.  It was around post 13 when it started to get rocky and by post 24 it took a hard turn into politics.

New word of the day - "Woketude", the quality of being a wuss.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Rush on January 22, 2022, 05:57:27 AM
No, I don't think it was Rush.  It was around post 13 when it started to get rocky and by post 24 it took a hard turn into politics.

New word of the day - "Woketude", the quality of being a wuss.

But mine was the only post they deleted.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Little Joe on January 22, 2022, 06:09:49 AM
But mine was the only post they deleted.
How can you be sure?  If someone posted something that hurt their feelings and was quickly deleted, you may not have seen it.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: bflynn on January 22, 2022, 06:12:24 AM
how far down in the thread was it?  The only post I saw was the second one.

Well, I guess you'll find out if you get a nasty gram from the High Emperors, Almighty Wielders of the Ban Hammer.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Rush on January 22, 2022, 08:36:49 AM
how far down in the thread was it?  The only post I saw was the second one.

Well, I guess you'll find out if you get a nasty gram from the High Emperors, Almighty Wielders of the Ban Hammer.

Mine was post number 49 and now the management post is 49 so mine was the only one unless there were posts after mine that they also deleted.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on January 22, 2022, 09:27:44 AM
In my view, solution is simple. Improve performance here on PS, refer people here from PoA, open up PS to search engines. and stop using PoA.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Mase on January 22, 2022, 09:30:57 AM
If you mention this place on POA you get deleted and banned.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 22, 2022, 10:17:20 AM
If you mention this place on POA you get deleted and banned.

not always.

snowflakes will whine about pilotspin and supposedly being an echo chamber.  in other words, posts dumping on piltospin are ok.



Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: nddons on January 22, 2022, 11:19:11 AM
not always.

snowflakes will whine about pilotspin and supposedly being an echo chamber.  in other words, posts dumping on piltospin are ok.
When the mods silence opposing viewpoints, are they not simply turning POA into its own echo chamber? 

Curious if any of those snowflakes are participants here.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 22, 2022, 11:23:08 AM
When the mods silence opposing viewpoints, are they not simply turning POA into its own echo chamber? 

yup

Curious if any of those snowflakes are participants here.

I believe that some at least lurk.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on January 22, 2022, 01:13:32 PM
If you mention this place on POA you get deleted and banned.

Best to mention to people in private messages on PoA. While the management council members may read some private messages, they are less likely to ban you for them. This is likely an effective tactics for threads that get locked, like the one in the OP.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Mr Pou on January 24, 2022, 06:44:02 AM
The only real reason I still hang at POA is there are people I do like getting together with, in person, now and then.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Mase on January 24, 2022, 11:16:05 PM
I go there because of Doc Bruce.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Anthony on January 25, 2022, 08:20:03 AM
I go there because of Doc Bruce.

He's on Pilot's Place which I no longer participate and haven't for a very long time.  However, he's become a Far Leftists and Fauci worshipper now.  Very weird.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: jb1842 on January 25, 2022, 08:34:18 AM
He's on Pilot's Place which I no longer participate and haven't for a very long time.  However, he's become a Far Leftists and Fauci worshipper now.  Very weird.

What's so weird? They both think they are smarter than everyone else in the room.
Title: Re: Rush, did you get this POA thread locked
Post by: Anthony on January 26, 2022, 04:14:03 AM
What's so weird? They both think they are smarter than everyone else in the room.

True. What was I thinking?   ;D