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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: nddons on February 22, 2022, 06:22:59 AM

Title: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 22, 2022, 06:22:59 AM
Is it me, or is Putin just dangling a ball of yarn over Biden, watching him slap the air like a geriatric cat.

Meanwhile, Kameltoe goes and flails away in speeches in Europe, where the foreign press said she was “consistently unprepared.”

What the fuck is going on?  I think Putin has the upper hand, and is hoping these taunts fracture NATO.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 22, 2022, 06:27:20 AM
Is it me, or is Putin just dangling a ball of yarn over Biden, watching him slap the air like a geriatric cat.

Meanwhile, Kameltoe goes and flails away in speeches in Europe, where the foreign press said she was “consistently unprepared.”

What the fuck is going on?  I think Putin has the upper hand, and is hoping these taunts fracture NATO.

  Putin and in many ways Xi are showing the world that the US is weak and powerless.   They are showing everyone how ineffective the US has become and who to go to.

 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on February 22, 2022, 06:30:35 AM
We need a second comming.....of someone like Ronald Reagan, or even Dick Nixon, the Russians were afraid of that fucker.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 22, 2022, 08:41:04 AM
Or Trump. The whole world was afraid of hm.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 22, 2022, 08:49:01 AM
Or Trump. The whole world was afraid of hm.

I don’t believe Russia would be doing this if Trump were in office. It is so obvious he sees how weak Biden is and that’s why he’s acting now.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 22, 2022, 08:57:45 AM
Or Trump. The whole world was afraid of hm.
Correct, whether militarily, or whether he was demanding that they pick up their own costs for defending their own shithole countries instead of outsourcing their defense to us. They were VERY afraid of that.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 22, 2022, 10:40:32 AM
This is an incredible, comprehensive, worldwide perspective on this whole clusterfuck:

https://rumble.com/vvjyxo-bidens-desperate-hail-mary-on-ukraine-failed-now-the-legacy-media-is-in-dam.html
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 22, 2022, 11:12:47 AM
Is it me, or is Putin just dangling a ball of yarn over Biden, watching him slap the air like a geriatric cat.

Yes, but it isn't a string, it's a pudding cup.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on February 22, 2022, 11:19:32 AM
I don’t believe Russia would be doing this if Trump were in office. It is so obvious he sees how weak Biden is and that’s why he’s acting now.

EVERYBODY knows this but the pussy leftists refuse to acknowledge it.
They are happy to destroy America to make sure the right doesn't get their way.
The most selfish, dishonest, deceitful  people on earth are democrats.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on February 22, 2022, 11:22:47 AM
I have been listen to someone in Ukraine. She does admit she is bias and to double check everything you hear. 
She said the people where worried at first with Biden because they remember Obama and what happened with Crimea.  She said so far it seems like Biden and the rest of the West is doing 100 times better and has hope.
According to her people in Ukraine think sanctions will work if big enough, because everyone knows Putin like his money and does not want to do anything that will hurt that.
She also like to point out that there has been fighting with the Russian in that area for 8 years. Something that we don’t really hear on the news here.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 23, 2022, 05:51:51 AM
Personally, I think the whole thing is a staged play.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 23, 2022, 05:56:48 AM
Personally, I think the whole thing is a staged play.
I’m with you.  If this was true, we would be seeing the military of Poland and others taking a strong defensive position on their boarders.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on February 23, 2022, 06:11:35 AM
Personally, I think the whole thing is a staged play.

IOW, Biden colluding with Russia? Why, the Dems would NEVER do that...
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 23, 2022, 06:18:57 AM
Personally, I think the whole thing is a staged play.

The more I think about it, I think you’re right. Biden would love us to get all upset about Russia and forget about his inflation, his wrecking our energy independence, his continuing to support Faucism, and his total failure to secure the southern border while making it difficult for legitimate truckers to cross the northern border.

If he thinks he’s going to unite the country in a war against Russia like GW did against Al-Quida after 9/11 he’s got another thing coming. At least I certainly hope even the lunatic left will balk at going to war. I’m not so sure though the way they have done a 180 on vaccines and censorship. I guess I won’t be surprised if the “peace loving, tolerant” left rallies to go to war. After all they went to war in our own cities in the summer of 2020.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 23, 2022, 06:36:42 AM
And right on cue the press and democrats freak out.  Trump says that what Putin did was genius.  He never said that he approved.  You can think a move is genius while hating that the move was made.  Fucking turds.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-praises-putins-genius-incursion-into-ukraine-234001858.html
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-joe-biden/index.html
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"This is genius," he said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 23, 2022, 06:39:04 AM
Biden's handlers have concocted the new fantasy that they can blame everything on Russia.

Gas prices?  Russia!   Inflation?  Russia!    Supply shortages?   Russia!!!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 23, 2022, 06:41:22 AM
Biden's handlers have concocted the new fantasy that they can blame everything on Russia.

Gas prices?  Russia!   Inflation?  Russia!    Supply shortages?   Russia!!!
Losing to Trump in 2024?  Russia!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 23, 2022, 06:45:34 AM
Losing to Trump in 2024?  Russia!

  Expect a narrative on how Russia is interfering with he elections.

  Also look for Biden's handlers to try to concoct a "national emergency" as well.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 23, 2022, 06:55:02 AM
And right on cue the press and democrats freak out.  Trump says that what Putin did was genius.  He never said that he approved.  You can think a move is genius while hating that the move was made.  Fucking turds.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-praises-putins-genius-incursion-into-ukraine-234001858.html
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-joe-biden/index.html

"It's unclear what Trump thinks the military would do on the U.S. southern border"

Um.... secure it?  Fucking idiots.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on February 23, 2022, 08:03:10 AM
"It's unclear what Trump thinks the military would do on the U.S. southern border"

Um.... secure it?  Fucking idiots.

liberals are STUPID.

They're not Liberals.  Today's so called Liberals are FASCISTS.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 23, 2022, 09:40:42 AM
Biden's handlers have concocted the new fantasy that they can blame everything on Russia.

Gas prices?  Russia!   Inflation?  Russia!    Supply shortages?   Russia!!!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 23, 2022, 09:47:25 AM
Within the next 48 hours the weak minded liberals will be convinced that this is all the fault of Russia.

You'll even see one jump in here with the talking points.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 23, 2022, 10:03:08 AM
Also look for more "tie ins" to Trump.   MSM and Big Tech will begin dumping story after story of how Trump "approves" of what Putin is doing and is somehow working with Putin.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 23, 2022, 02:53:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshmanmode_/status/1491400870134632454
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 24, 2022, 06:25:29 AM
And so the invasion begins.  Expect marshal law and suspension of all rights and elections immediately.  Federalization of all industries and funds in banks and elsewhere.  All wealth (except for a few oligarchs) will belong to the State.  In the USA.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 24, 2022, 06:53:48 AM
And so the invasion begins.  Expect marshal law and suspension of all rights and elections immediately.  Federalization of all industries and funds in banks and elsewhere.  All wealth (except for a few oligarchs) will belong to the State.  In the USA.

We have some safeguards. The powers reserved to red states and, hopefully, some previous swing states will be firmly red in November.  So our job now is to get the cooperative RINOs out and some “Republicans” in that won’t put up with this ruling class dictatorship. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 24, 2022, 07:01:32 AM
...So our job now is to get the cooperative RINOs out and some “Republicans” in that won’t put up with this ruling class dictatorship.

Alternatively, help the RINOs understand their errors.  Help them seek Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 24, 2022, 07:07:08 AM
Of course we will welcome with open arms 25 million Ukrainian refugees who will work for pennies.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 24, 2022, 07:10:59 AM
Of course we will welcome with open arms 25 million Ukrainian refugees who will work for pennies.
That ^^^
Plus,
We should welcome with open arms (pun intended) any arms the Europeans (NATO and Ukraine) wish to purchase from us.

I'm all for the latter.  I'm undecided on the former.  The Ukrainians are a hardworking proud and freedom loving people, even if their leaders are more corrupt than Hunter Biden and his Daddy.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 24, 2022, 07:12:50 AM
Of course we will welcome with open arms 25 million Ukrainian refugees who will work for pennies.

I wonder if Ukrainian refugees are like Cubans and know the evils of communism.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 24, 2022, 07:17:07 AM
I wonder if Ukrainian refugees are like Cubans and know the evils of communism.
That is my experience.  The Ukrainians (two families) I know HATE Russia.  They LOVE the USA, except they are very disappointed in us lately due to our leftward spiral.  They have used the words "Just like Russia", and then spit on the ground.
One guy is a computer repair technician.  The other guy owns a local hardware store franchise and one of their wives is a manager of a large local (non-chain) restaurant.  The other wife stays home and takes care of the kids and does all the yard work.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 24, 2022, 07:23:36 AM
We have some safeguards. The powers reserved to red states and, hopefully, some previous swing states will be firmly red in November.  So our job now is to get the cooperative RINOs out and some “Republicans” in that won’t put up with this ruling class dictatorship.
I heard Beto's poll numbers were on the rise in TX.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 24, 2022, 07:26:25 AM
That is my experience.  The Ukrainians (two families) I know HATE Russia.  They LOVE the USA, except they are very disappointed in us lately due to our leftward spiral.  They have used the words "Just like Russia", and then spit on the ground.

As long as they recognize it’s the left making us that way, and aren’t brainwashed by media propaganda into thinking it’s Trump/Russia collusion, which if they have half a brain cell they should.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 24, 2022, 07:36:21 AM
You're right.  I revoke my previous comment.  Ukrainians are welcome as they do indeed hate the evils of communism.  Exactly why the democrats won't want them.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 24, 2022, 07:59:01 AM
Personally, I think the whole thing is a staged play.

I agree.  Putin wants higher energy prices to get more oil and natural gas revenue and Biden, the Democrats and the Globalist World Elite want higher energy prices to push Electric Vehicles and other Man-Made Climate Change NONSENSE (LIES) to get even richer, consolidate power and oppress the masses.  This is a great and immediate way to do that. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 24, 2022, 08:02:28 AM
You're right.  I revoke my previous comment.  Ukrainians are welcome as they do indeed hate the evils of communism.  Exactly why the democrats won't want them.

Nah, you didn’t use green font so you’re good.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 24, 2022, 10:43:44 AM
Does anyone, including Democrats, have any confidence in Biden to solve this? 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 24, 2022, 10:49:37 AM
Does anyone, including Democrats, have any confidence in Biden to solve this?

  At least there are no mean tweets to upset anyone.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 24, 2022, 10:53:32 AM
John Kerry is on the job!
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President Biden’s climate czar, John Kerry, warned Wednesday that Russia’s war against Ukraine is going to distract the world from the climate change crisis and produce "massive emissions" that will negatively impact the globe.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on February 24, 2022, 10:54:29 AM
John Kerry is on the job!
Beat me to it!

Anyway, here's the link-

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-kerry-russia-ukraine-war-climate-change
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 24, 2022, 10:54:54 AM
I wonder if Ukrainian refugees are like Cubans and know the evils of communism.
They do. My daughter is dating a Ukrainian guy. He and his twin brother emigrated with their mother when they were 18. That was about 8 years after Ukraine declared its independence in 1991. So he lived half his life under the USSR, and half as an independent Ukraine. Their primary language was Russian.  Ukraine has its own language, but it’s very similar to Russian. Probably like how Portuguese varies from Spanish.

The emigrated not knowing much English. They went to a university in the US, and largely learned English by watching movies with subtitles. They then graduated and both went on medical school, and both are accomplish MDs in a specialty field. They both are also pilots, and very conservative. They know the boot of tyranny. It’s fascinating to listen to him.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 24, 2022, 10:56:31 AM
I heard Beto's poll numbers were on the rise in TX.
Well I heard he didn’t really mean that he would take away all of our ARs and AK-47s, so all’s good now.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 24, 2022, 11:06:55 AM
They do. My daughter is dating a Ukrainian guy. He and his twin brother emigrated with their mother when they were 18. That was about 8 years after Ukraine declared its independence in 1991. So he lived half his life under the USSR, and half as an independent Ukraine. Their primary language was Russian.  Ukraine has its own language, but it’s very similar to Russian. Probably like how Portuguese varies from Spanish.

The emigrated not knowing much English. They went to a university in the US, and largely learned English by watching movies with subtitles. They then graduated and both went on medical school, and both are accomplish MDs in a specialty field. They both are also pilots, and very conservative. They know the boot of tyranny. It’s fascinating to listen to him.

Sounds like a keeper.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 24, 2022, 12:57:08 PM
Also hearing reports that China has designs on Afghanistan.  Are they passively working together?

Didn't Germany and Japan do something like this about 85-90 years ago?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 24, 2022, 01:07:11 PM
Also hearing reports that China has designs on Afghanistan.

 Has?     You need to be paying attention.

 https://insiderpaper.com/china-belt-and-road-afghanistan-us-forces-leave/

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/17/taliban-in-afghanistan-china-may-exploit-rare-earth-metals-analyst-says.html

https://www.westernjournal.com/report-china-taking-major-airbase-abandoned-us-deploying-military-planes-forward-position/

https://www.brookings.edu/research/china-buys-into-afghanistan/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 24, 2022, 01:22:41 PM
Also hearing reports that China has designs on Afghanistan.  Are they passively working together?

Didn't Germany and Japan do something like this about 85-90 years ago?

Probably. Putin was the only world leader to show up (as far as I know) at the Olympic opening ceremonies. You know China's leader and him were planning some shit behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 24, 2022, 01:25:22 PM
I do hope that the Russian soldiers are fully vaccinated and masked, otherwise they will be in big trouble!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 24, 2022, 01:42:03 PM
Will we be withholding Russia's ability to participate in SWIFT?  That is not on the table at this time.

Sure is good strategy to give up your strategy, or lack thereof.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 24, 2022, 01:49:06 PM
I do hope that the Russian soldiers are fully vaccinated and masked, otherwise they will be in big trouble!

Anyone else think it's fucked up that Biden sends troops to Europe in case Russia moves further west while at the same time kicking people from the military who refuse to get a shot that proves little benefit to their health?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 24, 2022, 02:08:05 PM
Anyone else think it's fucked up that Biden sends troops to Europe in case Russia moves further west while at the same time kicking people from the military who refuse to get a shot that proves little benefit to their health?

It's very clear that the U.S. is no longer the leading world power. We could easily have been with a second Trump term. But Biden has castrated us in the eyes of the world.  By Biden I mean the Dems. Our military should be a lean killing machine, and instead it is being made all woke and rainbowey.  We are a laughing stock. I don't even want to think about what would happen if Biden does something with the troops. Anything.

Think about it. We can't even manufacture anything. All our shit comes from China. And all our finances, energy, and basically everything, is online - easily attackable as the Colonial pipeline hack showed. We desperately need to become self sufficient again. We aren't the nation we were in 1945. We need to stay the fuck out of it. The west screwed up by not getting Ukraine into NATO years ago. It's too late now, it's lost. If Biden starts messing around and gets our kids killed in Ukraine, it won't be Russia I'll be pissed at.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on February 24, 2022, 02:32:13 PM

Think about it. We can't even manufacture anything. All our shit comes from China. And all our finances, energy, and basically everything, is online - easily attackable as the Colonial pipeline hack showed. We desperately need to become self sufficient again.

There are those within the D party that want us weak. This is completely obvious, and it's not a side effect of their policies.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 24, 2022, 02:53:47 PM
It's very clear that the U.S. is no longer the leading world power. We could easily have been with a second Trump term. But Biden has castrated us in the eyes of the world.  By Biden I mean the Dems. Our military should be a lean killing machine, and instead it is being made all woke and rainbowey.  We are a laughing stock. I don't even want to think about what would happen if Biden does something with the troops. Anything.

Think about it. We can't even manufacture anything. All our shit comes from China. And all our finances, energy, and basically everything, is online - easily attackable as the Colonial pipeline hack showed. We desperately need to become self sufficient again. We aren't the nation we were in 1945. We need to stay the fuck out of it. The west screwed up by not getting Ukraine into NATO years ago. It's too late now, it's lost. If Biden starts messing around and gets our kids killed in Ukraine, it won't be Russia I'll be pissed at.
I’m taking a different approach. I think if we pulled Ukraine into NATO, Russia would look at that like we looked at Cuba during the Cubs Missile Crisis. That’s as close as we ever came to playing nuclear chicken. Ukraine bulges way into Russia, not just a flat border to border. I’m not sure we want to play nuclear chicken.

Tulsi Gabbard has a similar take on this.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 24, 2022, 03:12:39 PM
Has?     You need to be paying attention.

 https://insiderpaper.com/china-belt-and-road-afghanistan-us-forces-leave/

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/17/taliban-in-afghanistan-china-may-exploit-rare-earth-metals-analyst-says.html

https://www.westernjournal.com/report-china-taking-major-airbase-abandoned-us-deploying-military-planes-forward-position/

https://www.brookings.edu/research/china-buys-into-afghanistan/

And now, they are working to remove the Taliban and take over Afghanistan. 

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 24, 2022, 03:17:26 PM
And now, they are working to remove the Taliban and take over Afghanistan.

  Why remove the Taliban?  They need someone there to run the country and keep the populace "in line".   The Taliban fits the bill, they're ruthless and savage and don't have any qualms with killing dissenters.   Plus they work cheap.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 24, 2022, 03:47:58 PM
Anyone else think it's fucked up that Biden sends troops to Europe in case Russia moves further west
I think that is prudent and called for, since we are signatories to NATO.
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while at the same time kicking people from the military who refuse to get a shot that proves little benefit to their health?
Now THAT is fucked up.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 24, 2022, 04:05:08 PM
Here is the actual President of the US

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Ron_Klain%2C_White_House_Chief_of_Staff.jpg/220px-Ron_Klain%2C_White_House_Chief_of_Staff.jpg)

  This piece of garbage is Ron Klain, WH Chief of Staff.   This is who is pulling the strings and putting on the teleprompter what he wants Biden to say.

 And this is not a secret inside the beltway.  It's largely known, and yes, our republican representatives know it as well.   They simply don't want to do anything about it.

 While you are watching everything spin out of control, this is the unelected guy calling the shots. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 24, 2022, 05:00:24 PM
Here is the actual President of the US

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Ron_Klain%2C_White_House_Chief_of_Staff.jpg/220px-Ron_Klain%2C_White_House_Chief_of_Staff.jpg)

  This piece of garbage is Ron Klain, WH Chief of Staff.   This is who is pulling the strings and putting on the teleprompter what he wants Biden to say.

 And this is not a secret inside the beltway.  It's largely known, and yes, our republican representatives know it as well.   They simply don't want to do anything about it.

 While you are watching everything spin out of control, this is the unelected guy calling the shots.

What a Fag.

Not a cigarette.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 24, 2022, 05:37:41 PM
  Why remove the Taliban?  They need someone there to run the country and keep the populace "in line".   The Taliban fits the bill, they're ruthless and savage and don't have any qualms with killing dissenters.   Plus they work cheap.

The same reason to remove the Dali Lama. 

Afghans have already shown themselves to be meek and unwilling to fight for their freedom.  China will "liberate" them for many years and install Chinese overlords.  It's like Hitler, but in slow motion.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mase on February 24, 2022, 05:48:10 PM
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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 24, 2022, 05:49:46 PM
The same reason to remove the Dali Lama. 

Afghans have already shown themselves to be meek and unwilling to fight for their freedom.  China will "liberate" them for many years and install Chinese overlords.  It's like Hitler, but in slow motion.

  Yea, lots of "liberating" going on there right now.    ::)

https://www.voanews.com/a/east-asia-pacific_china-says-its-ready-work-taliban/6209667.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/13/china-will-be-very-careful-dealing-with-the-taliban-in-afghanistan.html

https://warontherocks.com/2021/08/a-reluctant-embrace-chinas-new-relationship-with-the-taliban/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/asia/china-vaccines-aid-afghanistan-intl-hnk/index.html

https://thediplomat.com/2021/08/the-taliban-chinas-deal-with-the-devil-in-afghanistan/

https://thediplomat.com/2021/12/china-in-afghanistan-how-beijing-engages-the-taliban

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/28/world/asia/china-taliban-afghanistan.html

https://thebl.tv/us-news/chinese-regime-has-been-aiding-taliban-terrorists-for-decades-china-expert-claims.html

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 24, 2022, 06:18:03 PM
I’ve been watching Klein since I first heard of him. He keeps a very low profile, unlike previous chiefs of staff. He has an upper lip like Klaus Schwab. Maybe it’s a mark of the beast. Not much doubt that Klein is indeed calling all Biden’s shots.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 24, 2022, 08:26:15 PM
At least the military has gotten its diversity training and probably has it pronouns set up.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 24, 2022, 09:07:37 PM
Anthony's girl friend has some ideas.

https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1496979534897418244
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 24, 2022, 11:27:24 PM
These showed up in my Youtube suggestions.



Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 25, 2022, 02:32:01 AM
Anthony's girl friend has some ideas.

https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1496979534897418244

Maybe one of her daughters?  She's getting a bit old for me, although still hot.   ;D

However, she's EXACTLY RIGHT!  GO KRISTI!!!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 25, 2022, 05:32:04 AM
These showed up in my Youtube suggestions.



Wow. I don’t even have words. Those are either the bravest soldiers ever or they really hate the Russians. Or both.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 25, 2022, 05:55:03 AM
Questions on what Putin wants.  To me, it's simple:  MRGA - Make Russia Great Again.  It's what every good leader should want for their country.

In 1938, it was MGGA
In 1911, MCGA

In 2022, in the United States, it's Biden seeking peace in our time.  Why should we have gotten involved in Europe?  In 1940, we had no interest in Poland or Czechoslovakia, right?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 25, 2022, 06:07:13 AM
Putin wants MTSUGA.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 25, 2022, 08:15:08 AM
Anthony's girl friend has some ideas.

https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1496979534897418244
The comments below Noem’s tweet are just one reason why I shitcanned Twitter years ago. Fucking trolls.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mase on February 25, 2022, 10:16:08 AM
Can't talk about this on POA. 

https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/we-need-to-have-a-discussion-on-the-ukraine.136931/page-2#post-3220869
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 25, 2022, 10:21:07 AM
Can't talk about this on POA. 

https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/we-need-to-have-a-discussion-on-the-ukraine.136931/page-2#post-3220869

  Why does anyone waste their time there?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 25, 2022, 10:43:58 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 25, 2022, 11:31:32 AM
8)

If these are real quotes then they perfectly encapsulate both the stupidity and the hypocrisy of the left.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 25, 2022, 11:33:23 AM
Can't talk about this on POA. 

https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/we-need-to-have-a-discussion-on-the-ukraine.136931/page-2#post-3220869

I'm really surprised the thread lasted as long as it did.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on February 25, 2022, 11:56:31 AM
I'm really surprised the thread lasted as long as it did.

I did my part to throw some fuel on that fire  ;D
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 25, 2022, 12:13:56 PM
  Why does anyone waste their time there?
I totally agree.

What fucking pansies.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on February 25, 2022, 02:46:30 PM
I totally agree.

What fucking pansies.

Liberals are stupid, as well as cowards, bullies  and assholes.
They just are.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: TimRB on February 25, 2022, 02:54:23 PM
No AR15 needed...

That meme is a true story.  Yesterday on the news they showed a line of people waiting at a Ukraine police station where they were to be issued a rifle (AK) on request.  Evidently no questions asked--one person interviewed had never fired a gun before and didn't even know how to operate his new rifle.  I hope the police were smart enough not to take names of people getting rifles, since those sorts of records would be among the first seized by the Russians.

This, of course, is good evidence why the Second Amendment is FAR from outdated, and points to the need of the people not only to be armed, but also competent with their rifles.  And I mean "rifles".  Shotguns and pistols won't cut it.

Tim
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 25, 2022, 02:56:02 PM
If Russia drops a nuke on DC and all of America is in chaos, we wouldn’t be allowed to mention it on the PoA board.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 25, 2022, 03:02:50 PM
If Russia drops a nuke on DC and all of America is in chaos, we wouldn’t be allowed to mention it on the PoA board.

Let’s be fair. If Russia drops a nuke on DC, we won’t be ABLE to mention it anywhere. The world will end. Unless Biden forgets his code.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 25, 2022, 03:25:06 PM
No AR15 needed...

That meme is a true story.  Yesterday on the news they showed a line of people waiting at a Ukraine police station where they were to be issued a rifle (AK) on request.  Evidently no questions asked--one person interviewed had never fired a gun before and didn't even know how to operate his new rifle.  I hope the police were smart enough not to take names of people getting rifles, since those sorts of records would be among the first seized by the Russians.

This, of course, is good evidence why the Second Amendment is FAR from outdated, and points to the need of the people not only to be armed, but also competent with their rifles.  And I mean "rifles".  Shotguns and pistols won't cut it.

Tim

Also true, Snake Island:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Snake_Island
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on February 25, 2022, 03:47:22 PM


This, of course, is good evidence why the Second Amendment is FAR from outdated, and points to the need of the people not only to be armed, but also competent with their rifles. 

Tim

This is the "well regulated" clause in 2A.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 25, 2022, 05:05:54 PM
The WSJ reports that Canada is doing its part:

"Some of Canada’s government-owned liquor retail monopolies are pulling Russian products, mostly vodka, off their shelves in response to the country’s military attack on Ukraine.

The Ontario government has instructed the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, a monopoly wine-and-spirits retailer that bills itself as one of the world’s biggest buyers of alcohol, to remove Russian vodka from its shelves. “Ontario joins Canada’s allies in condemning the Russian government’s act of aggression against the Ukrainian people,” said the province’s finance minister, Peter Bethlenfalvy. Ontario is Canada’s most-populous province, accounting for nearly 40% of the country’s population."
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 25, 2022, 06:34:04 PM
Who knew the invasion was COVID related.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 25, 2022, 06:55:15 PM
https://thebluestateconservative.com/2022/02/25/look-you-know-every-uh-well-anyway-joe-biden-absolutely-loses-it-in-press-conference-video/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 25, 2022, 07:05:54 PM
https://thebluestateconservative.com/2022/02/25/look-you-know-every-uh-well-anyway-joe-biden-absolutely-loses-it-in-press-conference-video/

I love the article next to the one about the clown losing it...

Title: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 25, 2022, 07:36:30 PM
Also true, Snake Island:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Snake_Island
Fucking Ukrainian heroes with gigantic testicles.

Bravo Zulu, gentlemen.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 25, 2022, 08:25:00 PM
$6.4 billion to the Ukraine. 

Meanwhile, our border remains open while the wall material rots in the desert.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 25, 2022, 09:00:46 PM
$6.4 billion to the Ukraine. 

Meanwhile, our border remains open while the wall material rots in the desert.

On top of the money we spend to buy oil from Russia that we  used to produce in our own country less than 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2022, 04:53:56 AM
Fucking Ukrainian heroes with gigantic testicles.

Bravo Zulu, gentlemen.
In the Wiki article, it said:
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The Ukrainian border guards' last words, "Russian warship, go fuck yourself", went viral due to their defiance. The phrase became a rallying cry for supporters of Ukraine around the world.[21] The Week compared the phrase to "Remember the Alamo" from the 19th century Texas Revolutio
I compared it to the phrase "Let's Go Brandon".
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2022, 04:54:51 AM
On top of the money we spend to buy oil from Russia that we  used to produce in our own country less than 2 years ago.
I gave that post a "like" because we don't have a "dislike" button, and I did like that you pointed out that stupid factoid.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2022, 05:05:10 AM
I wonder what Biden would do in a similar circumstance:

Quote
Zelenskyy refuses US offer to evacuate him: 'I need ammunition, not a ride'

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/ukraine-russia-invasion-news

Actually, Biden would probably not ask to be evacuated either.  He would be afraid to come out of his basement.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2022, 05:23:53 AM
Does anyone know if there is a mechanism to allow the UN to take away Russia's permanent seat at the UN Security Council?  As is, they veto almost every resolution that Western Countries try to pass.  I would think that would be one of the strongest, non-military moves we could make against them.  They could still sit at the children's table.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 26, 2022, 05:42:36 AM
Loving all the "supporting Ukraine" messages, lights, etc.  To really support Ukraine one should grab the AR and head to Ukraine.   ;)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 06:15:08 AM
Loving all the "supporting Ukraine" messages, lights, etc.  To really support Ukraine one should grab the AR and head to Ukraine.   ;)

Psyops is working really well on me.  That’s exactly what I want to do.  The bravery of the Snake Island 13 sends me over the edge.  It absolutely enrages me.  The guy that released that audio may or may not have deliberately intended it to have the effect of getting the world worked up to come help Ukraine and if he did it doesn’t matter.  I know I’m being psychologically manipulated but it still works.

I’m going to be major pissed if Biden uses this to send us into the fray.  My head says stay the hell out of it but my heart wants to go kill Putin. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 26, 2022, 06:17:44 AM
Loving all the "supporting Ukraine" messages, lights, etc.  To really support Ukraine one should grab the AR and head to Ukraine.   ;)

The left has no shame. One of my friends, who is a public school teacher (no more explanation needed) is posting online trying to shame the right by comparing Ted Cruz going on vacation last year when Texas lost power to Ukraine's PM who is staying in country during a war. I'm trying not to go off on him for being utterly stupid. I promised my wife to try to be nicer.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2022, 07:03:35 AM
The left has no shame. One of my friends, who is a public school teacher (no more explanation needed) is posting online trying to shame the right by comparing Ted Cruz going on vacation last year when Texas lost power to Ukraine's PM who is staying in country during a war. I'm trying not to go off on him for being utterly stupid. I promised my wife to try to be nicer.

  The crisis is so dire that Biden went to his home in Delaware for the weekend.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 26, 2022, 07:30:08 AM
Psyops is working really well on me.  That’s exactly what I want to do.  The bravery of the Snake Island 13 sends me over the edge.  It absolutely enrages me.  The guy that released that audio may or may not have deliberately intended it to have the effect of getting the world worked up to come help Ukraine and if he did it doesn’t matter.  I know I’m being psychologically manipulated but it still works.

I’m going to be major pissed if Biden uses this to send us into the fray.  My head says stay the hell out of it but my heart wants to go kill Putin.
I feel that way too.

One thing I don’t understand is why we aren’t sending divisions to the border of NATO countries that border Ukraine.  We are signatories on that treaty for God’s sake. And why don’t we hear of other NATO countries mobilizing into a defensive posture?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2022, 08:29:41 AM
I feel that way too.

One thing I don’t understand is why we aren’t sending divisions to the border of NATO countries that border Ukraine.  We are signatories on that treaty for God’s sake. And why don’t we hear of other NATO countries mobilizing into a defensive posture?

Three reasons:

1.  As Number 7 would say, Biden is a pussy.

2.  They are dependent on Russian gas because they ignored Trump's plea to turn down Nord Stream and buy American Gas

3.  Democrats rebelled and  called Trump a bully when he tried to get European NATO countries to increase their defense budgets to 2 percent.  They just don't have the forces to do it without us (see #1)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2022, 08:33:09 AM
For member nations of NATO, the original agreement stipulated that each country contribute 2% of their defense budget to fund NATO.

However, many of these countries shrugged it off and left the US holding the bag and paying for them.  Trump came along and pointed this out, and actually got them to start paying their share.

Now that Biden is in, the US is back to getting stuck with the bills, again.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 08:47:29 AM
I now know how to say “go fuck yourself” in Russian.  They didn’t teach that when I took Russian back in college.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2022, 09:10:54 AM
иди на хуй
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on February 26, 2022, 09:24:29 AM
I am sure this is not going as Putin expected. The Ukrainian people are standing up to Russia and the government is arming everyone that can hold a gun.  It looks like it is taking Russia longer to take over Kyiv than most people expected.
Now what is Putin going to do?  We all know Putin does not care about his people just power and money. So does he double down and send more troops?


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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 26, 2022, 09:27:26 AM
I am sure this is not going as Putin expected. The Ukrainian people are standing up to Russia and the government is arming everyone that can hold a gun.  It looks like it is taking Russia longer to take over Kyiv than most people expected.
Now what is Putin going to do?  We all know Putin does not care about his people just power and money. So does he double down and send more troops?


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I think that's exactly what he'll do.  He's a bully and a thug.  However, Europe will buy his gas and oil anyway.   So he gets slammed by the asshole media.   So what.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 26, 2022, 09:30:32 AM
I am sure this is not going as Putin expected. The Ukrainian people are standing up to Russia and the government is arming everyone that can hold a gun.  It looks like it is taking Russia longer to take over Kyiv than most people expected.
Now what is Putin going to do?  We all know Putin does not care about his people just power and money. So does he double down and send more troops?


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I was reading somewhere online, reddit or some such place, where a former Russian soldier was saying that the state of the Russian army is very poor at the lowest level; that most of the soldiers are conscripted and this is probably the first time most of them have shot their rifles or drove a tank, etc. The invasion is mostly ojt for the majority of the Russians on the ground, and that's why Ukraine has been able to resist and fight back as well as they have been able to so far.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 09:40:49 AM
иди на хуй

That’s it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 09:44:13 AM
I was reading somewhere online, reddit or some such place, where a former Russian soldier was saying that the state of the Russian army is very poor at the lowest level; that most of the soldiers are conscripted and this is probably the first time most of them have shot their rifles or drove a tank, etc. The invasion is mostly ojt for the majority of the Russians on the ground, and that's why Ukraine has been able to resist and fight back as well as they have been able to so far.

I saw a video of a Ukrainian woman angrily yelling at a Russian soldier, calling him an invader, enemy, and so forth, and the guy’s reaction seemed like he really didn’t want to be there and his heart wasn’t in it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: elwood blues on February 26, 2022, 09:53:13 AM
I'm trying not to go off on him for being utterly stupid. I promised my wife to try to be nicer.

We are past the point of diplomacy.  It's time to do what's right.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2022, 10:00:10 AM
We are past the point of diplomacy.  It's time to do what's right.
I'm doing my part.  I usually drink vodka martinis on Friday night but last night I had gin martinis.

I hope this is over soon because I hate gin martinis.  Maybe I can find some Ukrainian vodka.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 26, 2022, 10:08:08 AM
I'm doing my part.  I usually drink vodka martinis on Friday night but last night I had gin martinis.

I hope this is over soon because I hate gin martinis.  Maybe I can find some Ukrainian vodka.
I’m a gin guy 100%, but my wife likes Vodka. Her favorite is from Poland - Belvedere.

I’ll be damned, there is Ukrainian vodka. Here you go Joe:

https://vipflow.com/the-best-ukrainian-vodka-brands-in-the-world/#:~:text=Best%20Ukrainian%20Vodka%20Brands%20to%20Try%201%20Nemiroff.,Dar.%20...%2010%20Dima%E2%80%99s.%20...%20More%20items...%20
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: elwood blues on February 26, 2022, 10:12:29 AM
The thing about Putin is that you cannot think of him as a PM or a president or any kind of head of state.  Think of him as a mob boss.  That's the level at which he operates.  He lies, he cheats, he steals, and if no one calls him out or stands up to him, he gets his way.

Biden, on the other hand ....

The US has had now two major foreign policy disasters in less than a year.  Our ineptitude is on full display, for all the world to see.

Quote
Emboldened? You know what emboldens dictators like Putin? Stupidity. Cowardice. Inaction. Empty threats. Ignorance. And Biden has these traits in spades.

There is a lot of gaslighting online and in corporate media coverage about how Trump was – and still is – a puppet for Putin. These desperate claims would be hilarious if not for the seriously flawed and dangerous results of holding such contemptible views. The only question worth asking in the moment is: Did any of this happen under Trump? The answer, of course, is no. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2022, 10:21:21 AM
There is much, much worse to come.

 We the American people are going to pay dearly for all of this.   The Biden Regime has destroyed our energy independence and now has us buying record oil from Russia, at record prices.   And now we are going to start buying oil from Iran.

 Think inflation is high now?  Just wait till this summer.  We are on the edge of a great depression that will further weaken the US dollar and destroy wealth in the middle class.   China wants desperately to become the reserve currency, and they are well on their way of achieving that.

 But don't place the blame all on the Biden Regime.  The republican party shares a huge part of this as well.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on February 26, 2022, 10:38:51 AM
I think that's exactly what he'll do.  He's a bully and a thug.  However, Europe will buy his gas and oil anyway.   So he gets slammed by the asshole media.   So what.
Agree unless Europe is going to stop buying from Russia Putin is fine. They won’t stop because it will hurt them to much.  Much easier to send weapons to other people and let their country get torn apart.


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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on February 26, 2022, 10:42:23 AM
I was reading somewhere online, reddit or some such place, where a former Russian soldier was saying that the state of the Russian army is very poor at the lowest level; that most of the soldiers are conscripted and this is probably the first time most of them have shot their rifles or drove a tank, etc. The invasion is mostly ojt for the majority of the Russians on the ground, and that's why Ukraine has been able to resist and fight back as well as they have been able to so far.
Sound like Putin got the chechen fighters to go to Ukraine.  They are real fighters we will see how Ukraine holds up to them


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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 11:43:58 AM
There is much, much worse to come.

 We the American people are going to pay dearly for all of this.   The Biden Regime has destroyed our energy independence and now has us buying record oil from Russia, at record prices.   And now we are going to start buying oil from Iran.

 Think inflation is high now?  Just wait till this summer.  We are on the edge of a great depression that will further weaken the US dollar and destroy wealth in the middle class.   China wants desperately to become the reserve currency, and they are well on their way of achieving that.

 But don't place the blame all on the Biden Regime.  The republican party shares a huge part of this as well.

Lord help us.  The only silver lining, if there is one, is hopefully it will ensure a huge midterm asskicking for the dems.  But we still have until 2024 to get his Fraudluency the fuck out of office.  I hold no hope the Republicans would lead an impeachment or 25th him.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2022, 12:53:35 PM
Lord help us.  The only silver lining, if there is one, is hopefully it will ensure a huge midterm asskicking for the dems.  But we still have until 2024 to get his Fraudluency the fuck out of office.  I hold no hope the Republicans would lead an impeachment or 25th him.

  The mid terms are meaningless.   Why?  Look at who is taking over.  A bunch of establishment republicans being lead by Kevin McCarthy and the Turtle.   It's just a rearranging of the deck chairs, nothing more.

 The republicans will not remove Biden.  Period. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 01:23:27 PM
  The mid terms are meaningless.   Why?  Look at who is taking over.  A bunch of establishment republicans being lead by Kevin McCarthy and the Turtle.   It's just a rearranging of the deck chairs, nothing more.

 The republicans will not remove Biden.  Period.

Honestly that is obviously what needs to happen but I know it won’t.  He needs to IMMEDIATELY be taken out of office and put into a nursing home.  We can’t have Harris in charge though.  None of this would be happening if Trump had stayed in office.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on February 26, 2022, 03:34:30 PM
Does anyone know if there is a mechanism to allow the UN to take away Russia's permanent seat at the UN Security Council?  As is, they veto almost every resolution that Western Countries try to pass.  I would think that would be one of the strongest, non-military moves we could make against them.  They could still sit at the children's table.

Why? They could have kicked us out based on invasions of Iraq and Afuckistan.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 03:35:16 PM
I wonder if this is true:

https://twitter.com/remilitari/status/1497699493889949702
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 26, 2022, 04:16:05 PM
We are past the point of diplomacy.  It's time to do what's right.

The pansies on the left don’t have the balls to do what is right.  They are weak spined wimps in the mold of Chamberlain. You can never appease a bully. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 26, 2022, 04:18:31 PM
Honestly that is obviously what needs to happen but I know it won’t.  He needs to IMMEDIATELY be taken out of office and put into a nursing home.  We can’t have Harris in charge though.  None of this would be happening if Trump had stayed in office.
I don’t think Biden should be removed by Republicans at this point. The alternative is worse. Either:

A.  Kameltoe assumes office constitutionally, bringing the first black woman into the Oval. Regardless how utterly corrupt and unqualified that bitch is, the democrats will circle the wagons like they were protecting The baby Jesus. No amount of destruction of the Republic would be too much in order to protect Kammy for 8 years.

B.  Within hours before the vote to use the 25th to remove Biden, Kammy will somehow commit Clintoncide, leaving Nancy Pelosi to assume the presidency.

Keep the old fucker chained to the radiator in the attic and give him a dribble bib and a sippie cup. The alternative to removing him is worse.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on February 26, 2022, 04:20:58 PM


Keep the old fucker chained to the radiator in the attic and give him a dribble bib and a sippie cup. The alternative to removing him is worse.
He's the safest man on the planet
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 26, 2022, 04:31:18 PM
I don’t think Biden should be removed by Republicans at this point.

Republicans don’t have a say in the matter unless democrats waffle
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 26, 2022, 04:37:26 PM
Republicans don’t have a say in the matter unless democrats waffle
I think an earlier post implied this would be after the Republicans take control and McCarthy is speaker, God Forbid.

It also presumes the Republicans don’t shit the bed in November, which I don’t put past them.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: texasag93 on February 26, 2022, 04:51:48 PM
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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 26, 2022, 05:00:44 PM
I think that we should keep President Depends in office.  No, we probably can't pass any legislation (which isn't a bad thing) for the next two years.   But the more we see of the doddering fool, the better chance we have of winning the presidency.  Play the long game. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on February 26, 2022, 05:04:16 PM
I think that we should keep President Depends in office.  No, we probably can't pass any legislation (which isn't a bad thing) for the next two years.   But the more we see of the doddering fool, the better chance we have of winning the presidency.  Play the long game.
I am inclined to agree. His replacement would likely be considerably worse.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 26, 2022, 05:15:24 PM
Play the long game.

The long game isn’t measured in a 4 year cycle.  It’s measured in decades or centuries.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 26, 2022, 05:56:57 PM
The long game isn’t measured in a 4 year cycle.  It’s measured in decades or centuries.
Oh, I agree.  But when corporations can't think beyond the end of a quarter, going out two years is mind-bogglingly distant future.  Democrats have been playing the long-ish game in the destruction of our country.  Bit by bit by bit.  The Chinese are happy to wait centuries for world domination.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 26, 2022, 05:58:06 PM
I'm surprised the Russians didn't attempt air superiority, or possibly failed at the task, or are still working at it. At least that seemed to be the case in the beginning, not that the Ukraine air force was all that large. Presumably some were still engaging Russians as of yesterday.
Other thing is (and possibly related to air superiority) is the telecom system wasn't knocked out enough to stop, say, live videos from being streamed from Kiev (they changed the spelling on me some years ago):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09TGonEOXdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09TGonEOXdU)

Just saw a news article wherein Musk has made Starlink available in Ukraine and is sending ground terminals in response to a request from a Ukrainian official.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 05:58:48 PM
I don’t think Biden should be removed by Republicans at this point. The alternative is worse. Either:

A.  Kameltoe assumes office constitutionally, bringing the first black woman into the Oval. Regardless how utterly corrupt and unqualified that bitch is, the democrats will circle the wagons like they were protecting The baby Jesus. No amount of destruction of the Republic would be too much in order to protect Kammy for 8 years.

B.  Within hours before the vote to use the 25th to remove Biden, Kammy will somehow commit Clintoncide, leaving Nancy Pelosi to assume the presidency.

Keep the old fucker chained to the radiator in the attic and give him a dribble bib and a sippie cup. The alternative to removing him is worse.

Alright, I retract my statement.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on February 26, 2022, 07:25:26 PM
Kiev is Russian spelling Ukrainian spelling is Kyiv
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2022, 07:54:25 PM
Kiev is Russian spelling Ukrainian spelling is Kyiv
I found that out when I looked it up today.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2022, 08:03:01 PM
Is Russia like Canada or is Canada like Russia?

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 26, 2022, 08:57:17 PM
Kiev is Russian spelling Ukrainian spelling is Kyiv

That explains it. I learned the Russian spelling as a young teenager when my oldest brother and I played the Avalon Hill war game Stalingrad (it covered the entire WWII eastern front at the division level.) Years later when I was working at a silicon valley startup I startled a fellow programmer from Belarus by knowing the approximate relative locations of Minsk, Smolensk, and the Pripyat marshes (and river) - without looking at a map. He was surprised an American would know their names, never mind where they were located. Especially Smolensk, which he considered a small unimportant town. To me it was an important city on the rail line from Poland to Moscow - we just knew it as the Minsk-Smolensk attack route to Moscow.

On looking around the web I found this picture of the game board (sorry, just engaging in a bit of nostalgia on my part):

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/large/img/JPI9ryrSRc6OxuX8xKb-LjO7bHE=/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:no_upscale()/pic1409450.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 27, 2022, 02:44:41 AM
The Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe kicked ass along that route then, Like Napoleon retreated along the same route. Russian winters are unforgiving.  Some of the greatest tank battles we'll ever know took place there.  No Americans or Brits in site.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 27, 2022, 04:51:21 AM
Sound like Putin got the chechen fighters to go to Ukraine.  They are real fighters we will see how Ukraine holds up to them


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Sounds like the Chechens got fucked up.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17781459/missile-strikes-third-night-fighting-2/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 06:21:20 AM
Sounds like the Chechens got fucked up.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17781459/missile-strikes-third-night-fighting-2/
If Putin is as furious as it sounds, and considering that he has already mentioned using his nuclear arsenal, I wonder what our nuclear DEFCON is?  Do we have nuclear capable bombers in the are, or pre-positioned in a more "ready" condition than usual?  Are our Silos on high alert?  Are our nuclear subs being alerted to be "more" ready?

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable of the proper terms to use than I am can interpret my question, but I think the point of my question comes through?  How close are we to a nuclear conflict?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 06:25:34 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ukraine-wipes-out-bloodthirsty-chechen-special-forces-sent-to-zelensky/ar-AAUn8Uu

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According to the Daily Mail, Ukraine dealt a big blow to Russia by supposedly killing a large contingent of vicious Chechen special forces ordered to assassinate Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelensky.

The military force, which is known for its horrific aggression and human rights violations, is alleged to have been decimated after their convoy of 56 tanks was blown to smithereens by Ukrainian missile fire
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 06:38:37 AM
Belarus is entering the war on the side of Russia or is about to.  France has closed its airspace to Russia, several countries are sending arms to Ukraine, Turkey is considering blocking Russia’s passage to the Black Sea, sanctions are flying like hot cakes all over the globe and Germany seems to have taken the lead in NATO given the absence of any kind of U.S. leadership.  This is starting to feel reminiscent of the beginnings of the Great War, absent an assassination.  Except now there are nukes and the nuclear superpowers aren’t allies.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 06:39:08 AM
Why? They could have kicked us out based on invasions of Iraq and Afuckistan.
Completely different situation.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-continues-ukraine-invasion-live-updates

I'm not the only one asking:
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Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Sunday called for Russia to lose its voting power as a member of the U.N. Security Council during the fourth day of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 07:06:36 AM
If Putin is as furious as it sounds, and considering that he has already mentioned using his nuclear arsenal, I wonder what our nuclear DEFCON is?  Do we have nuclear capable bombers in the are, or pre-positioned in a more "ready" condition than usual?  Are our Silos on high alert?  Are our nuclear subs being alerted to be "more" ready?

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable of the proper terms to use than I am can interpret my question, but I think the point of my question comes through?  How close are we to a nuclear conflict?

I just saw this:
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Putin orders nuclear deterrent forces be put on high alert
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-continues-ukraine-invasion-live-updates
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on February 27, 2022, 07:15:28 AM
Belarus is entering the war on the side of Russia or is about to.  France has closed its airspace to Russia, several countries are sending arms to Ukraine, Turkey is considering blocking Russia’s passage to the Black Sea, sanctions are flying like hot cakes all over the globe and Germany seems to have taken the lead in NATO given the absence of any kind of U.S. leadership.  This is starting to feel reminiscent of the beginnings of the Great War, absent an assassination.  Except now there are nukes and the nuclear superpowers aren’t allies.

I seriously doubt putin would even acknowledge france closing their airspace to his bombers.

macron would be far more likely to burst into tears and surrender than actually stand up to him.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 07:24:05 AM
I seriously doubt putin would even acknowledge france closing their airspace to his bombers.

macron would be far more likely to burst into tears and surrender than actually stand up to him.

That’s a good point and isn’t France as well as most of Europe buying oil and gas from Russia? 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 07:27:05 AM
I just saw this:https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-continues-ukraine-invasion-live-updates

Are they trying to scare us or is it normal to alert your nuke deterrents any time there is tension?

From your link:

Putin ordered the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military's General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a "special regime of combat duty." The move signals tensions could boil over into a nuclear war.

"He is right now threatening a nuclear escalation," said former DIA intelligence officer Rebekah Koffler. "This a veiled threat – or maybe such a veiled threat - he just met with his chief of general staff and minister of defense. He is escalating the conflict into the nuclear domain in order to de-escalate – that is topple Kyiv’s regime quickly."
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 27, 2022, 07:53:46 AM
I just saw this:https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-continues-ukraine-invasion-live-updates

The unknown to me are the upper Russian military. Are they all hardcore Putin followers or are they just playing along to protect themselves? Will they actually use the weapons at Putin's orders or will they refuse and lead a coup against him? We could be on the brink of nuclear war, or the brink on an unprecedented era of world stability and peace (or as close to that as may ever be possible) if we handle this the right way. Do we as the world combined have the balls to attack and completely destroy Russia's military and nuclear capability if a coup goes down, or even straight up dropping cruise missiles on Putin's head? Are we willing to destroy their oil infrastructure and completely cutoff oil imports/exports and bankrupt and starve the Russian populace to destroy their country? At this point are there any peaceful options? Do we really want Putin to leave Ukraine only to keep him with the capability for him to come back in a few years?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 08:43:44 AM
The unknown to me are the upper Russian military. Are they all hardcore Putin followers or are they just playing along to protect themselves? Will they actually use the weapons at Putin's orders or will they refuse and lead a coup against him? We could be on the brink of nuclear war, or the brink on an unprecedented era of world stability and peace (or as close to that as may ever be possible) if we handle this the right way. Do we as the world combined have the balls to attack and completely destroy Russia's military and nuclear capability if a coup goes down, or even straight up dropping cruise missiles on Putin's head? Are we willing to destroy their oil infrastructure and completely cutoff oil imports/exports and bankrupt and starve the Russian populace to destroy their country? At this point are there any peaceful options? Do we really want Putin to leave Ukraine only to keep him with the capability for him to come back in a few years?
All good questions, and the reason I am glad I don't have to answer them.  I just wish it wasn't Biden or any of his ilk making the decisions.
Hillary is probably the only Democrat with enough balls to stand up to Russia, but only if there is something in it for her.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 08:51:47 AM
The unknown to me are the upper Russian military. Are they all hardcore Putin followers or are they just playing along to protect themselves? Will they actually use the weapons at Putin's orders or will they refuse and lead a coup against him? We could be on the brink of nuclear war, or the brink on an unprecedented era of world stability and peace (or as close to that as may ever be possible) if we handle this the right way. Do we as the world combined have the balls to attack and completely destroy Russia's military and nuclear capability if a coup goes down, or even straight up dropping cruise missiles on Putin's head? Are we willing to destroy their oil infrastructure and completely cutoff oil imports/exports and bankrupt and starve the Russian populace to destroy their country? At this point are there any peaceful options? Do we really want Putin to leave Ukraine only to keep him with the capability for him to come back in a few years?

Yep. This is also eerily WW2 deja vu.  There was indeed a plot among Hitler’s higher ups to stop him but it failed.  That’s a very difficult thing to pull off.  People tend to look out for themselves.  I’m not sure there’s enough discontent with Putin among the Russians in general to support a coup.  Yes there have been protests against this war but that doesn’t mean Russians want to completely destabilize their government. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2022, 08:53:44 AM

Hillary is probably the only Democrat with enough balls to stand up to Russia, but only if there is something in it for her.

  Yea........she would really stand up to them.............   https://theamericanreport.org/2021/08/05/the-uranium-one-deal-is-a-clear-and-present-danger-to-america/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Old Crow on February 27, 2022, 09:12:02 AM
“Found on Twitter. Ukraine has been taking down street signs and direction markers to potentially confuse Russian invaders. Their digital signs are reading “Go Fuck Yourselves”.  Does anyone know here know Russian and can say if that is accurate?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 09:26:22 AM
  Yea........she would really stand up to them.............   https://theamericanreport.org/2021/08/05/the-uranium-one-deal-is-a-clear-and-present-danger-to-america/
You helped prove my point.

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Hillary is probably the only Democrat with enough balls to stand up to Russia, but only if there is something in it for her.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 27, 2022, 09:27:24 AM
All good questions, and the reason I am glad I don't have to answer them.  I just wish it wasn't Biden or any of his ilk making the decisions.
Hillary is probably the only Democrat with enough balls to stand up to Russia, but only if there is something in it for her.

No.  Hillary would cower like the bitch she is and cut a deal to give Putin whatever he wanted.  Your Demicratness is showing.   ::)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 09:28:49 AM
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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2022, 09:33:58 AM
You helped prove my point.

  Anyone who is foolish enough to believe Hillary is in any way, shape or form a leader, is a total fool.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 09:38:59 AM
  Anyone who is foolish enough to believe Hillary is in any way, shape or form a leader, is a total fool.
I know you like criticizing anything I say as much a liberals like criticizing Trump, but sometimes you have to look further than the best way to spin something.

I never said she was a leader.  Now way, no how.  You invented that.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 27, 2022, 09:40:09 AM
Are our nuclear subs being alerted to be "more" ready?

How close are we to a nuclear conflict?

I cannot speak to silos and bombers, but our boomers are at normal status, which is to say they are ready.

How close?  Not. Unless Putin believes he can stop our entire triad, he would be a fool to launch anything. Putting his nuclear force on high alert is a political stunt intended to scare you. He wants you terrorized that he WILL launch, even knowing that if he does, he will have destroyed the world. His only out would be if Biden forgot which ID number is his.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 09:41:23 AM
“Found on Twitter. Ukraine has been taking down street signs and direction markers to potentially confuse Russian invaders. Their digital signs are reading “Go Fuck Yourselves”.

That appears to be genuine, not photoshopped. It's difficult to trust ANYTHING we see and hear coming out.  But I was able to find another.  It's easy to believe they are taking that up as their war cry.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 27, 2022, 09:50:56 AM
His only out would be if Biden forgot which ID number is his.
I'm pretty sure it's either "password" or "12345"
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2022, 09:59:48 AM
I know you like criticizing anything I say as much a liberals like criticizing Trump, but sometimes you have to look further than the best way to spin something.

I never said she was a leader.  Now way, no how.  You invented that.

  Just pointing out the absurdity of your comments.  And yes, you implied leadership.

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Hillary is probably the only Democrat with enough balls to stand up to Russia
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 10:16:57 AM
  Just pointing out the absurdity of your comments.  And yes, you implied leadership.
Whatever.

I suppose that when Trump said Putin's move was "genius" that you took it to mean that he approved what Putin is doing.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2022, 10:18:18 AM
Whatever.

I suppose that when Trump said Putin's move was "genius" that you took it to mean that he approved what Putin is doing.

  You really suck at projection.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 10:35:14 AM
  You really suck at projection.
What is this all really about?  Surely your hostility is not just because I said Hillary had balls.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 27, 2022, 10:35:55 AM
I'm pretty sure it's either "password" or "12345"

That’s not how it works. Biden and other senior members eligible to be the second man to authorize a nuclear weapons launch have an id card with rows of different numbers on it. The identity check requires Biden to identify which number is the real one, something like “mine is the fourth one down”.  If he can’t remember which one it is, the military will not have confirmation of authority to confirm launch.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2022, 10:38:43 AM
  You really suck at projection.

What is this all really about?  Surely your hostility is not just because I said Hillary had balls.

  I stand by my statement.  Thanks for proving it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 27, 2022, 11:08:50 AM
Please someone, show me where Hillary ever exhibited any kind of leadership, ability to manage or actually do anything other than fucking TALK.  Until that happens Joe will feel persecuted.

Maybe how she managed the fallout from Bill's affair DURING his Presidency?  How'd she do there?  Lol!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 11:13:22 AM
Please someone, show me where Hillary ever exhibited any kind of leadership, ability to manage or actually do anything other than fucking TALK.  Until that happens Joe will feel persecuted.

Maybe how she managed the fallout from Bill's affair DURING his Presidency?  How'd she do there?  Lol!
While you are at it, please ask someone to show you where I ever said that I thought Hillary was any kind of a leader?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 27, 2022, 11:14:42 AM
Please someone, show me where Hillary ever exhibited any kind of leadership, ability to manage or actually do anything other than fucking TALK.  Until that happens Joe will feel persecuted.

Maybe how she managed the fallout from Bill's affair DURING his Presidency?  How'd she do there?  Lol!

I'm sure she exhibited great leadership doing the (illegal) closed meetings about universal health care - in the first few months of billy clinton's first term.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 27, 2022, 12:05:41 PM
That explains it. I learned the Russian spelling as a young teenager when my oldest brother and I played the Avalon Hill war game Stalingrad (it covered the entire WWII eastern front at the division level.) Years later when I was working at a silicon valley startup I startled a fellow programmer from Belarus by knowing the approximate relative locations of Minsk, Smolensk, and the Pripyat marshes (and river) - without looking at a map. He was surprised an American would know their names, never mind where they were located. Especially Smolensk, which he considered a small unimportant town. To me it was an important city on the rail line from Poland to Moscow - we just knew it as the Minsk-Smolensk attack route to Moscow.

On looking around the web I found this picture of the game board (sorry, just engaging in a bit of nostalgia on my part):

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/large/img/JPI9ryrSRc6OxuX8xKb-LjO7bHE=/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:no_upscale()/pic1409450.jpg)
That’s really cool. Did you ever go on to study Russian further?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on February 27, 2022, 12:07:16 PM
Sounds like the Chechens got fucked up.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17781459/missile-strikes-third-night-fighting-2/
Saw that,  I am sure that just made Putin’s day.  Guess he will go back to sending more 18 untrained kids in
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on February 27, 2022, 12:19:28 PM
This must be really helping the Russian people stand behind Putin.  Not that many do anymore based on the protest

Ukraine launches website to help Russian families find their relatives killed in combat. The Interior Ministry has launched 200rf.com, where it publishes photos and documents of the dead and captured Russian soldiers. Earlier Ukraine appealed to the Red Cross so that it carries out a humanitarian mission to hand over the bodies of Russian soldiers, but Russia hasn’t responded to the request. That is why Ukraine is asking the relatives of the dead to pick up their bodies.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on February 27, 2022, 12:21:21 PM
C'mon man, it's her turn!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 27, 2022, 12:22:09 PM
Completely different situation.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-continues-ukraine-invasion-live-updates

I'm not the only one asking:
Not from the POV of other members of the Security Council. China and France permanent members are on the SC. France put up a shit fit when we invaded Iraq since they traded with Iraq.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 12:42:23 PM
This must be really helping the Russian people stand behind Putin.  Not that many do anymore based on the protest

Ukraine launches website to help Russian families find their relatives killed in combat. The Interior Ministry has launched 200rf.com, where it publishes photos and documents of the dead and captured Russian soldiers. Earlier Ukraine appealed to the Red Cross so that it carries out a humanitarian mission to hand over the bodies of Russian soldiers, but Russia hasn’t responded to the request. That is why Ukraine is asking the relatives of the dead to pick up their bodies.

I was just getting ready to post that.  Just went there.  Wow. 

In other videos posted elsewhere and translated, the Russian POWs say that their cell phones were taken away from them by the Russians prior to the invasion so they 1. Couldn’t contact their families to tell them where they are and 2. Couldn’t get outside info about what was going on. They’ve been told they are participating in “exercises”, and mostly don’t want to be there.  Now of course maybe they’re trained to say that if captured and who knows if they’re really captured soldiers anyway or it’s some staged thing for Ukrainian psyops but it seemed authentic to me.  I’m getting the idea the Russian soldiers are not at all passionate about what they’re doing, and of course the Ukrainians are, and I’ve heard the saying that in war, the side that has the stronger will and reason to fight is the one likely to win.  It’s not looking like that’s the Russians at all. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 27, 2022, 01:01:16 PM
That’s really cool. Did you ever go on to study Russian further?

Nyet.

Though playing those games made me aware of, for example, the first Finnish-Soviet war started in 1939 where the Soviet army got its military butt kicked by a smaller foe - though the Soviets eventually adjusted and through sheer weight of numbers won the territory it sought (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War)). Perhaps too long ago to be relevant to the current situation.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 01:30:24 PM
Nyet.

Though playing those games made me aware of, for example, the first Finnish-Soviet war started in 1939 where the Soviet army got its military butt kicked by a smaller foe - though the Soviets eventually adjusted and through sheer weight of numbers won the territory it sought (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War)). Perhaps too long ago to be relevant to the current situation.

I sure wish I remembered my Russian and could still read all this Cyrillic stuff.  I've lost all of it except Yes, no, please and thank you. And now go fuck yourself.  That's the extent of my Russian anymore.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 27, 2022, 01:31:39 PM
I find all the fire fight video footage amazing   ::)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: elwood blues on February 27, 2022, 03:22:20 PM
Please someone, show me where Hillary ever exhibited any kind of leadership, ability to manage or actually do anything ....

Maybe how she managed the fallout from Bill's affair DURING his Presidency?  How'd she do there?  Lol!

That, of course, was a fake, staged show made for the masses, which is her MO.  Everything she does, every word she speaks, every thought she thinks is a lie and a scam.  No leader, it's all about her.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 04:16:23 PM
That, of course, was a fake, staged show made for the masses, which is her MO.  Everything she does, every word she speaks, every thought she thinks is a lie and a scam.  No leader, it's all about her.
I'm still waiting for someone to point out where I called her a leader, or even said anything good about her.

But I'll tell you what though, we do have a bunch  of assholes on this site. (I'm not talking to you Elwood.)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 27, 2022, 04:25:04 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to point out where I called her a leader, or even said anything good about her.

But I'll tell you what though, we do have a bunch  of assholes on this site. (I'm not talking to you Elwood.)

I count 402.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 04:27:33 PM
I count 402.
I would have thought you would have said 42,
but since you said 402, and we have 406 registered here, I'm wondering who the 4 others are.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 27, 2022, 04:57:45 PM
I would have thought you would have said 42,
but since you said 402, and we have 406 registered here, I'm wondering who the 4 others are.

I've always had a problem with math. That's why I chose physics as my major in college. Cause 402 is approximately 100, 7 is approximately 10, 3 is approximately 1, and so on.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 27, 2022, 06:38:28 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to point out where I called her a leader, or even said anything good about her.

But I'll tell you what though, we do have a bunch  of assholes on this site. (I'm not talking to you Elwood.)
Elwood was responding to Anthony, not you.  Are we a little moody and sensitive today?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 27, 2022, 07:29:49 PM
Elwood was responding to Anthony, not you.  Are we a little moody and sensitive today?
Yeah I am.
But Elwood referenced Clinton as a leader, and that is the lie that Lucifer made up about me saying that.  And then others jumped on the band wagon.

Just because someone is paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get them.  But I did learn something today.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 27, 2022, 07:34:06 PM
Yeah I am.
But Elwood referenced Clinton as a leader, and that is the lie that Lucifer made up about me saying that.  And then others jumped on the band wagon.

Just because someone is paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get them.  But I did learn something today.

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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 27, 2022, 07:59:08 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/mysterious-large-circles-on-russian-radar-turn-out-to-be-president-zelenskys-testicles
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 28, 2022, 02:17:35 AM
While you are at it, please ask someone to show you where I ever said that I thought Hillary was any kind of a leader?

You said she had the balls to stand up to Putin.  That denotes leadership, no?  You want to say positive things about far left, power crazed nut bags like Hillary which have no basis in fact and are WRONG, then you're going to get called out on it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 04:14:01 AM
You said she had the balls to stand up to Putin.  That denotes leadership, no?  You want to say positive things about far left, power crazed nut bags like Hillary which have no basis in fact and are WRONG, then you're going to get called out on it.

I have to disagree with that.  Having balls isn’t the same thing as leadership.  In Zelensky’s case he has both.  But they don’t necessarily travel together. 

Jordan Peterson has done talks on how the genders express aggression.  Males tend to fight physically.  Females use words, reputation destruction, social ostracism, that sort of thing.  What it amounts to with Hillary is she uses her yap.  That in no way means anyone would follow her ass into battle or that she’d ever go there herself.  It might take a certain amount of balls to verbally challenge an enemy, doesn’t make anyone a leader.  And to the extent Hillary might have enough “balls” to bitch at people, it isn’t a compliment.  People who do extreme sports might have balls but stupidly get themselves killed carrying it too far.  I admit they have balls but I won’t follow them.  If I had to define it that way, that would be Hillary, she’d get us into WW3 with her yap.  Trump on the other hand, being a leader, would have kept us out of this mess.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 04:20:10 AM
You said she had the balls to stand up to Putin.  That denotes leadership, no?  You want to say positive things about far left, power crazed nut bags like Hillary which have no basis in fact and are WRONG, then you're going to get called out on it.
I have heard on here many times that Hillary has balls. I have heard she had a higher testosterone count than Bill and everyone laughs and joins in. But I say it, even in the context of an insult and I get called out for praising her.  That is the same type tactic the liberals are using against Trump.

Edit: Which of YOU guys are going to follow a leader
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but only if there is something in it for her.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 04:21:36 AM
I have heard on here many times that Hillary has balls. I have heard she had a higher testosterone count than Bill and everyone laughs and joins in. But I say it, even in the context of an insult and I get called out for praising her.  That is the same type tactic the liberals are using against Trump.
Thank you Rush.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 05:46:36 AM
Thank you Rush.

It’s like I’ve said about Flynn, you can say anything you want and have any opinion you want.  What matters to me is what you do in the voting booth.  I highly doubt you voted for Hillary in 2016.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 28, 2022, 06:00:54 AM
You said she had the balls to stand up to Putin.  That denotes leadership, no? 

nope.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 06:07:38 AM
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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 28, 2022, 06:09:24 AM
Always fun to come here and read insulting post after insulting post.   ::)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 06:18:22 AM
Always fun to come here and read insulting post after insulting post.   ::)

  It's more fun living rent free in people's heads.   ;)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 09:00:38 AM
  It's more fun living rent free in people's heads.   ;)
Oh, I see.  This is just a game.  You like being an asshole and your little sycophants join in to get your approval.  Your mama must be very proud.  You get to be the bully on an anonymous board.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 09:46:50 AM
Oh, I see.  This is just a game.  You like being an asshole and your little sycophants join in to get your approval.  Your mama must be very proud.  You get to be the bully on an anonymous board.

  Once again, thanks for proving my point.  ;)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 28, 2022, 10:14:33 AM
Always fun to come here and read insulting post after insulting post.   ::)

Mommy forcing you to read them or Joe's overbearing wife?

Lol!  ;D
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 28, 2022, 10:15:08 AM
nope.

Bullshit.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 28, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
Bullshit.

You asked the question.  Not my problem that you don’t like the answer

I know plenty of people with courage/strength/balls/whatever and have absolutely no leadership ability

Balls don’t do not have anything to do with leadership
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 10:30:18 AM
Bullshit.
Is it your opinion that just because someone has balls, they are a good leader? 

Or is it that someone that only acts if there is something in it for themselves that makes them a good leader?  Or does it have to be both.

And finally, do you REALLY believe that I think Hillary is a good leader?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 11:19:20 AM
In Anthony’s defense, they often do go together.  Just not necessarily always. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 11:24:10 AM
In Anthony’s defense, they often do go together.  Just not necessarily always.
What part of that defense leads him to believe that I think Hillary is a good leader.  Or any sort of leader for that matter.


Can you defend Anthony saying this:
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You said she had the balls to stand up to Putin.  That denotes leadership, no?  You want to say positive things about far left, power crazed nut bags like Hillary which have no basis in fact and are WRONG, then you're going to get called out on it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 11:27:22 AM
I will probably continue to post here because it is sort of addicting.

But if I do decide to leave, it won't be because I got my feelings hurt.  It will be because I have lost respect for too many people here.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 11:34:51 AM
What part of that defense leads him to believe that I think Hillary is a good leader.  Or any sort of leader for that matter.

None. 

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Can you defend Anthony saying this:

Nope, in fact I countered it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
I will probably continue to post here because it is sort of addicting.

But if I do decide to leave, it won't be because I got my feelings hurt.  It will be because I have lost respect for too many people here.

One reason I come here is to process current events.  That might be the main reason. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 11:45:46 AM

Nope, in fact I countered it.
Yes you did.  And I thanked you for it.

But here he is, still attacking me.  AND my wife.  And none of it is in jest.   
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 11:48:08 AM
But if I do decide to leave, it won't be because I got my feelings hurt.  It will be because I have lost respect for too many people here.

  And here we go, martyrdom.    ::)

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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 28, 2022, 11:57:42 AM
Always fun to come here and read insulting post after insulting post.   ::)

Meanwhile, in Ukraine....

The peace negotiations have concluded with both sides agreeing to continue to negotiate.  Is it just me, or was that a joke on MASH?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 11:57:50 AM
  And here we go, martyrdom.    ::)

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Wow.  It really took balls to post that.  You must be a real great leader.

 8)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on February 28, 2022, 12:00:02 PM
I love the discourse and what I learn here, but could do without the bullying and ad hominem.

But what do I know? I'm the resident pussy liberal yellow bellied commie lovin motherfucker
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 12:01:48 PM
Wow.  It really took balls to post that.  You must be a real great leader.

 8)

  The best.  BTW, lots of space here to roam around your head, rent free.   ;D
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 12:07:40 PM
 So the Biden Regime managed to whip up a war to get the attention away from all of their dismal failures, only to showcase even more to the world how inept they are.

 Putin took the bait and made several huge miscalculations.  Meanwhile, the leftist lunatics inside the beltway are attempting to use this mess to drive up fossil fuel prices in a delusional hope that people with embrace green technology.

 It's not even summer yet, and so far this year we are once again totally fucked with the faux presidency.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 12:07:52 PM
I love the discourse and what I learn here, but could do without the bullying and ad hominem.

But what do I know? I'm the resident pussy liberal yellow bellied commie lovin motherfucker
At this point, I'm just trying to see how far they will go.  As far as I am concerned, they are hurting themselves more than they are hurting me.

But you aren't the only  resident pussy liberal yellow bellied commie lovin motherfucker.   Any one that doesn't join their circle jerk is labeled that.  Even Stan left the reservation once and was on the receiving end of that label.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on February 28, 2022, 12:16:46 PM
Meanwhile, in Ukraine....

The peace negotiations have concluded with both sides agreeing to continue to negotiate.  Is it just me, or was that a joke on MASH?

Did Frank Burns bring a gun?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 28, 2022, 12:20:12 PM
So the Biden Regime managed to whip up a war to get the attention away from all of their dismal failures, only to showcase even more to the world how inept they are.

 Putin took the bait and made several huge miscalculations.  Meanwhile, the leftist lunatics inside the beltway are attempting to use this mess to drive up fossil fuel prices in a delusional hope that people with embrace green technology.

 It's not even summer yet, and so far this year we are once again totally fucked with the faux presidency.

Biden could open up oil production in our country, bring down gas to Trump prices, and secure his re-election. But his handlers are too delusional/stupid/head up their collective asses to let that happen. Unfortunately, they are going to hurt too many people who are barely scraping by as it is, and then act all surprised when they turn against Biden; obligatory screams of racism, misogyny, trumpism to follow. And yes, some idiots out there will jump on the green technology bandwagon regardless of the harm, and those who have drank all the liberal kool-aid and think the left can do no harm no matter what.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 28, 2022, 12:21:45 PM
  And here we go, martyrdom.    ::)

Are you trying to win something? Is there a monetary award or just personal satisfaction?
In other words, what is your objective other than perhaps trying to humiliate someone?

I've been using online forums as far back as 1976 so I have a pretty good idea how Lucifer may respond to this post. It is insulting, but that is unavoidable since he isn't my direct audience. The questions aren't entirely rhetorical, though - there are many reasons people post to forums: some like to share what they know, or to share their thoughts, or to ask questions and learn, and some see forums as metaphorical sports arenas.

One of my discoveries is that often times the best response to a post is no response.
The other discovery is to avoid getting into a land war in Asia.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 12:24:13 PM
Biden could open up oil production in our country, bring down gas to Trump prices, and secure his re-election. But his handlers are too delusional/stupid/head up their collective asses to let that happen. Unfortunately, they are going to hurt too many people who are barely scraping by as it is, and then act all surprised when they turn against Biden; obligatory screams of racism, misogyny, trumpism to follow. And yes, some idiots out there will jump on the green technology bandwagon regardless of the harm, and those who have drank all the liberal kool-aid and think the left can do no harm no matter what.

  Another point to ponder:  The people who took a peaceful Libya and destroyed it, then left it in the chaos it is today are the same people behind what is happening in the Ukraine.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 12:28:01 PM
I just love that this forum is completely UNCENSORED and anybody can say anything.  I like just about everybody here for various different reasons.  Most of all I like to discuss the dangerous subject of politics without little dictator wannabes shutting it down.  If it results in some of you exchanging fire with each other, it’s just one more way it’s uncensored.  I don’t like it or dislike it, it’s just what it is.  What I hate is censorship.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on February 28, 2022, 12:32:43 PM
Biden could open up oil production in our country, bring down gas to Trump prices, and secure his re-election.

Not only that, but hit Putin where it hurts the most, his wallet, and the wallets of his oligarchs.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 01:26:48 PM
Not only that, but hit Putin where it hurts the most, his wallet, and the wallets of his oligarchs.

I’m starting to agree with the people insinuating that he has a screw loose, Condi Rice among them.  I’m not sure he cares about money or the Russian economy. I feel sure he doesn’t care about his people, only staying in power.  I don’t think he imagines ever giving up his “throne”.  That’s not to say don’t hit him in the wallet.  Maybe the best to hope for is his oligarchs will care enough about their rubles to do something about him although the odds of that happening are probably remote.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 28, 2022, 02:08:48 PM
Meanwhile, in Ukraine....

The peace negotiations have concluded with both sides agreeing to continue to negotiate.  Is it just me, or was that a joke on MASH?

yup.  That was one of the jokes
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 28, 2022, 02:10:15 PM
Who's with me?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gooden-americans-seize-russian-yachts-planes-oligarchs-ukraine-invasion
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 02:18:14 PM
Who's with me?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gooden-americans-seize-russian-yachts-planes-oligarchs-ukraine-invasion
I don't have the balls to tempt a Russian Bratva Oligarch to come after me.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 28, 2022, 02:19:52 PM
I don't have the balls to tempt a Russian Bratva Oligarch to come after me.

so, you don't have leadership ability, right?

 ;)

(too soon?)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 28, 2022, 02:24:12 PM
I don't have the balls to tempt a Russian Bratva Oligarch to come after me.

I've been told I look like a Russian gangster, so I can get us close.Need someone with language skills, though.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on February 28, 2022, 02:42:28 PM
BTW, there's a lot of talks about cyber attacks against the United States.  Putin wouldn't dare.  That would be as stupid as the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 02:50:21 PM
so, you don't have leadership ability, right?

 ;)

(too soon?)
Nah.  Not too soon.  Unless it embarrasses a few others, in which case the timing is just right.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 03:06:51 PM
I don't have the balls to tempt a Russian Bratva Oligarch to come after me.

Me neither.  The brave part about Snake Island wasn’t “Go fuck yourself,” it was, “Russian warship, Go fuck yourself.”  It was who they were addressing it to.  I’m not brace enough to take on Russian gangsters.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 03:17:13 PM
Me neither.  The brave part about Snake Island wasn’t “Go fuck yourself,” it was, “Russian warship, Go fuck yourself.”  It was who they were addressing it to.  I’m not brace enough to take on Russian gangsters.
Then I guess you're not a leader either. :)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 03:29:34 PM
Then I guess you're not a leader either. :)

Oh I’m definitely not a leader.  I’m not a follower either.  I work completely alone.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on February 28, 2022, 03:34:48 PM
Oh I’m definitely not a leader.  I’m not a follower either.  I work completely alone.

You got the sniper rifle.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 28, 2022, 04:03:06 PM
Me neither.  The brave part about Snake Island wasn’t “Go fuck yourself,” it was, “Russian warship, Go fuck yourself.”  It was who they were addressing it to.  I’m not brace enough to take on Russian gangsters.

Speaking of Snake Island.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/snake-island-defenders-alive-ukraine-navy
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 04:16:59 PM
Speaking of Snake Island.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/snake-island-defenders-alive-ukraine-navy

OMG YOU JUST MADE MY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!      ;D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 28, 2022, 04:18:50 PM
You asked the question.  Not my problem that you don’t like the answer

I know plenty of people with courage/strength/balls/whatever and have absolutely no leadership ability

Balls don’t do not have anything to do with leadership
You can look at this two ways. If Joe thought that Hillary has the balls to take on Putin so she could kick him in the testicles, that’s not leadership.

But if Hillary has the balls to take on Putin in any other capacity in which she COULD TAKE ON Putin, the only options would something like the head of state. That would by definition require leadership. It could be terrible, fatal leadership, but it would require leadership nonetheless.
Title: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 28, 2022, 04:30:20 PM
Me neither.  The brave part about Snake Island wasn’t “Go fuck yourself,” it was, “Russian warship, Go fuck yourself.”  It was who they were addressing it to.  I’m not brace enough to take on Russian gangsters.
I read today those 13 didn’t die, but are alive and well, but captured as POWs.

In a world where literally everyone has a camera in their pocket, and communications are instantaneous, why is it we can’t trust a single piece of news coming out on this conflict.

(No need to remind me about being unable to trust any news, anywhere. I get it. I just want to focus on this war.)

EDIT:  Eppy beat me to it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 05:11:44 PM
You can look at this two ways. If Joe thought that Hillary has the balls to take on Putin so she could kick him in the testicles, that’s not leadership.

But if Hillary has the balls to take on Putin in any other capacity in which she COULD TAKE ON Putin, the only options would something like the head of state. That would by definition require leadership. It could be terrible, fatal leadership, but it would require leadership nonetheless.
Read my post again, and tell me I am wrong:


Hillary is probably the only Democrat with enough balls to stand up to Russia, but only if there is something in it for her.
First, I am saying that most Democrats have no balls (compared to Hillary)
Then I say, "but only if there is something in it for her'.

Please tell me what part of that you disagree with.
Then tell me what part of that insinuates that I think she is a good leader.

And unless you really think I am praising Hillary, then you need to admit that Lucifer is either lying or is a complete asshole.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 05:16:27 PM

And unless you really think I am praising Hillary, then you need to admit that Lucifer is either lying or is a complete asshole.

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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on February 28, 2022, 05:18:36 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/58620018.jpg)
One of us does.  Do you really think I was praising Hillary?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 05:20:31 PM
One of us does.  Do you really think I was praising Hillary?

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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 06:32:16 PM
I read today those 13 didn’t die, but are alive and well, but captured as POWs.

In a world where literally everyone has a camera in their pocket, and communications are instantaneous, why is it we can’t trust a single piece of news coming out on this conflict.

(No need to remind me about being unable to trust any news, anywhere. I get it. I just want to focus on this war.)

EDIT:  Eppy beat me to it.

Styx has been saying we have to take everything we hear and see about the conflict with a grain of salt.  It’s called “the fog of war”.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on February 28, 2022, 06:42:32 PM
Styx has been saying we have to take everything we hear and see about the conflict with a grain of salt.  It’s called “the fog of war”.

We’re being played, again.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on February 28, 2022, 06:59:02 PM
Balls has the connotation of making hard decisions and acting upon them. Sometimes improperly.  So yes, Joe you implied leadership.  I meant nothing mean, nor untrue, but that's exactly what you did. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on February 28, 2022, 07:01:12 PM
Read my post again, and tell me I am wrong:
First, I am saying that most Democrats have no balls (compared to Hillary)
Then I say, "but only if there is something in it for her'.

Please tell me what part of that you disagree with.
Then tell me what part of that insinuates that I think she is a good leader.

And unless you really think I am praising Hillary, then you need to admit that Lucifer is either lying or is a complete asshole.
Ok, I went back this afternoon and I think YOU were the one who inserted “good” after Anthony questioned you about her being a leader. I said above leaders can be very, very bad.

And if you don’t think that there’s something in it for ANYONE running for president, then that’s naive. Anyone who has ever run for any office has had a massive ego, almost always accompanied by an insatiable thirst for power and aggrandizement.

Ergo, if someone has the balls has to stand up to Putin, he or she must do so from a position of power, which in turn would mean that person is a leader (good or bad), which would provide something for him or her, namely satisfying an insatiable thirst for power and aggrandizement.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 28, 2022, 08:07:27 PM
Bongino said today that he doesn't believe anything he hears unless he can verify it with good sources, He cited the Snake Island thing as reasoning, said he was taken in by it and had to issue a retraction.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on February 28, 2022, 08:17:14 PM
Bongino said today that he doesn't believe anything he hears unless he can verify it with good sources, He cited the Snake Island thing as reasoning, said he was taken in by it and had to issue a retraction.

I’m thinking the audio was real.  Maybe Ukraine knew they hadn’t been killed, maybe not, who knows.  If the audio is real, the guy(s) who said it are no less brave. 

I’d like to know if the smartphone texts between the killed Russian soldier and his mom are real.
Title: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on February 28, 2022, 08:32:22 PM
I’d like to know if the smartphone texts between the killed Russian soldier and his mom are real.

Seems a little off.  All the other reports I hear are that none of the Russian soldiers had cell phone. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on March 01, 2022, 01:25:53 AM
Seems a little off.  All the other reports I hear are that none of the Russian soldiers had cell phone.

99% sure no decent solider would carry unauthorized electronic devices into the field. The electronic signals emitted can be tracked.

Then again, maybe Russian soldiers do have them.

Idle observation - modern battle tanks burn about 40 gallons of fuel per hour. I’m reminded of the Battle of the Bulge and the importance of logistics in war.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 03:56:28 AM
99% sure no decent solider would carry unauthorized electronic devices into the field. The electronic signals emitted can be tracked.

Then again, maybe Russian soldiers do have them.

Idle observation - modern battle tanks burn about 40 gallons of fuel per hour. I’m reminded of the Battle of the Bulge and the importance of logistics in war.

I hear they’re having logistics problems and overall poor planning. As for cell phones, things are different from ever before. People are stuck to their cells like conjoined twins.  We’re talking about post millennials here.  This is a generation that never knew life without a personal portable screen.  I can believe they’d sneak unauthorized cells along.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 01, 2022, 04:12:35 AM
I hear they’re having logistics problems and overall poor planning. As for cell phones, things are different from ever before. People are stuck to their cells like conjoined twins.  We’re talking about post millennials here.  This is a generation that never knew life without a personal portable screen.  I can believe they’d sneak unauthorized cells along.

I agree.  And discipline in the armed forces, especially U.S., is NOT what it was before due to PC bullshit.  I can see the Russian conscripts breaking all kinds of rules mainly because of lack of training and also being forced into the military.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on March 01, 2022, 04:16:28 AM
Ok, I went back this afternoon and I think YOU were the one who inserted “good” after Anthony questioned you about her being a leader. I said above leaders can be very, very bad.
Here is what I said that started all of this.
Hillary is probably the only Democrat with enough balls to stand up to Russia, but only if there is something in it for her.
Then it all went sideways for some reason.
No.  Hillary would cower like the bitch she is and cut a deal to give Putin whatever he wanted. 
I can understand someone disagreeing with my saying she had balls, or that she would stand up to Putin. Even though I didn't say she WOULD stand up to Putin.  I said she was the ONLY Democrat that had enough balls to do so. (Does that sound like something a Democrat would say)?


But I also said she would only stand up to Russia if there was something in it for her.



So where the fuck did this come from?
Your Demicratness is showing.   ::)
To borrow from our Rush, I was gobsmacked to think that my statement sounded like I was a "Demicrat."

And another thing.  The word "good" was not in my statement, and neither was the word "leader".

I stand by my original statement.  All the rest is just the carnage from false accusations.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 04:28:47 AM
I agree.  And discipline in the armed forces, especially U.S., is NOT what it was before due to PC bullshit.  I can see the Russian conscripts breaking all kinds of rules mainly because of lack of training and also being forced into the military.

It was probably true what he said about being told they were just doing “exercises” at least when they first started out, so they wouldn’t have worried about being tracked.  Besides, it’s not like the satellites aren’t seeing the long lines of tanks and stuff anyway.  The only covert operations are the assassination squads and recon being sent in to the cities.  They probably have cellphones too.  But what the hell do I know.  They’d be pinging AT&T towers in Kyiv?  How would that even work?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 01, 2022, 05:05:00 AM
Anyone wonder is Putin has an incurable cancer and that is why he is doing this?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 05:42:51 AM
Anyone wonder is Putin has an incurable cancer and that is why he is doing this?

Who knows.  I heard that rumor.  I think this sums up what’s wrong with him.  You can fast forward to 8:15, or for just the summary, 9:45.  Oh hell, I’ll spoil it for you.  Factor 1 psychopathy, grandiose narcissism, and Machiavellianism.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 01, 2022, 06:01:00 AM
Here is what I said that started all of this.Then it all went sideways for some reason.I can understand someone disagreeing with my saying she had


So where the fuck did this come from?To borrow from our Rush, I was gobsmacked to think that my statement sounded like I was a "Demicrat."

And another thing.  The word "good" was not in my statement, and neither was the word "leader".

I stand by my original statement.  All the rest is just the carnage from false accusations.

It came from your statement that Hillary could stand up to Putin. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 01, 2022, 06:04:08 AM
Here is what I said that started all of this.Then it all went sideways for some reason.I can understand someone disagreeing with my saying she had balls, or that she would stand up to Putin. Even though I didn't say she WOULD stand up to Putin.  I said she was the ONLY Democrat that had enough balls to do so. (Does that sound like something a Democrat would say)?


But I also said she would only stand up to Russia if there was something in it for her.



So where the fuck did this come from?To borrow from our Rush, I was gobsmacked to think that my statement sounded like I was a "Demicrat."

And another thing.  The word "good" was not in my statement, and neither was the word "leader".

I stand by my original statement.  All the rest is just the carnage from false accusations.
Ok Joe. You’re the victim. We get it. Now put some salve on it get back in the game.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Little Joe on March 01, 2022, 06:12:54 AM
Ok Joe. You’re the victim. We get it. Now put some salve on it get back in the game.
Not yet.  A little patronizing pat on the head doesn't get it.

I don't care about Lucifer, but I am really disappointed in Anthony.  Calling me a demicrat and accusing me of respecting Hillary is bad enough.  But to keep it up removes any sense of respect I had for him.  If anyone is that stupid, then I don't trust ANYthing they say or any conclusions they draw.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 01, 2022, 06:28:22 AM
We’re being played, again.

Why should we suddenly believe the MSM after being lied to for the past two years?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 01, 2022, 06:33:58 AM
Why should we suddenly believe the MSM after being lied to for the past two years?

  Two years?  Let's see, lets go back to 2016..........Better yet, let's go back to the 90's............

  We've been lied to continuously.  The only difference is today they are more brazen about it and are trying to use censorship to prop up the lies.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on March 01, 2022, 06:46:22 AM
  Two years?  Let's see, lets go back to 2016..........Better yet, let's go back to the 90's............

  We've been lied to continuously.  The only difference is today they are more brazen about it and are trying to use censorship to prop up the lies.

Seriously? Not even close.

Let's go back to Watergate to see the real ramp up of media lies and mis-information.

I think about that snake, ted koppel and the thousands of outright lies he told about Ronald Reagan.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 01, 2022, 06:52:33 AM
oh heck, newspapers (back when that was the *only* media source) have been lying about politicals for decades and decades and decades.  Think about the origins of "yellow journalism"

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 06:54:36 AM
oh heck, newspapers (back when that was the *only* media source) have been lying about politicals for decades and decades and decades.  Think about the origins of "yellow journalism"

I've got a bunch of newspapers from the 1930s and 40s in a plastic box under my bed.  Once in a while I pull one out and read it.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 01, 2022, 07:12:30 AM
Not yet.  A little patronizing pat on the head doesn't get it.

I don't care about Lucifer, but I am really disappointed in Anthony.  Calling me a demicrat and accusing me of respecting Hillary is bad enough.  But to keep it up removes any sense of respect I had for him.  If anyone is that stupid, then I don't trust ANYthing they say or any conclusions they draw.

I can’t count how many times someone has misinterpreted my meaning and ascribed their own meaning to what I said. It happens. And people being what we are, our nature, even when we are intelligent and respected, is to defend our misinterpretation. Let it go.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 01, 2022, 08:05:51 AM
Not yet.  A little patronizing pat on the head doesn't get it.

I don't care about Lucifer, but I am really disappointed in Anthony.  Calling me a demicrat and accusing me of respecting Hillary is bad enough.  But to keep it up removes any sense of respect I had for him.  If anyone is that stupid, then I don't trust ANYthing they say or any conclusions they draw.

I stand by my statement.  I believe you are a closet Democrat in some ways, not all.  It occasionally peeks out, you get called on it then get upset.  Well too bad.  Didn't you say fuck you to me once or more? Get over it.....or not.    ::)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 01, 2022, 08:06:58 AM
I can’t count how many times someone has misinterpreted my meaning and ascribed their own meaning to what I said. It happens. And people being what we are, our nature, even when we are intelligent and respected, is to defend our misinterpretation. Let it go.

I don't believe that's the case here, but understand your perspective.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 08:41:50 AM
I stand by my statement.  I believe you are a closet Democrat in some ways, not all.  It occasionally peaks out, you get called on it then get upset.  Well too bad.  Didn't you say fuck you to me once or more? Get over it.....or not.    ::)

Somebody define closet Democrat.  In some ways?  I’m a libertarian which means I side with the left on some issues.  Does that make me a “closet Democrat”?   I don’t even know what these labels mean anymore.  I will die before I vote for any Democrat.  No part of me is a Democrat although I hold some liberal views.  Not leftist, liberal.  There’s a big difference.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 01, 2022, 08:47:53 AM
Somebody define closet Democrat.  In some ways?  I’m a libertarian which means I side with the left on some issues.  Does that make me a “closet Democrat”?   I don’t even know what these labels mean anymore.  I will die before I vote for any Democrat.  No part of me is a Democrat although I hold some liberal views.  Not leftist, liberal.  There’s a big difference.

  In my experience, most people don't mind telling you they are a conservative or libertarian, and what their principles are.

  Yet for some reason some of those with leftist leanings will try to convince you they are "moderate" or "centrist", yet virtually everything they talk about has hard leftist leanings.  Then they will get very agitated when it gets pointed out they are using leftist talking points and positions.

 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on March 01, 2022, 09:07:04 AM
Somebody define closet Democrat.  In some ways?  I’m a libertarian which means I side with the left on some issues.  Does that make me a “closet Democrat”?   I don’t even know what these labels mean anymore.  I will die before I vote for any Democrat.  No part of me is a Democrat although I hold some liberal views.  Not leftist, liberal.  There’s a big difference.

Yeah, I may be a bit more libertarian than I am a Repub. I am certainly conservative on military, constitutional rights and staying within constitutional bounds, 2A, and in fiscal concerns. Socially, I'm more middle of the road, and am certainly live and let live wrt the LGBTQ community. My rule is basically, as long as your lifestyle causes others no harm, enjoy!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 10:02:46 AM
Yeah, I may be a bit more libertarian than I am a Repub. I am certainly conservative on military, constitutional rights and staying within constitutional bounds, 2A, and in fiscal concerns. Socially, I'm more middle of the road, and am certainly live and let live wrt the LGBTQ community. My rule is basically, as long as your lifestyle causes others no harm, enjoy!

That's basically me.  But these days labels are just all over the map.  Like how the Canadian "liberal" government is actually behaving very fascistically.

Let's take one issue: medical marijuana.  Legalizing marijuana, medical or otherwise, has been a traditional leftist, liberal position. It's one of the things I'm "liberal" on.  Whereas keeping pot illegal used to be a strong conservative/Republican position.

But wait.  Take a look at what's happening today.  Big Pharma seems to be opposing medical marijuana. Why?  Because in states where it has been legalized, there's a huge drop in prescriptions for painkillers. People are smoking pot instead of getting OxyContin.  This is a big money loss for the drug companies. Is it a coincidence then that the DEA and FDA are fighting medical marijuana?  Who is in control of these federal agencies?  It's not a bunch of conservatives.  And Biden and the House Dems seem happy to do nothing (except take donations from Big Pharma). In fact, the feds are ramping up to attack perfectly legal hemp derived Delta-8 because it is as effective as regular marijuana, and hence also threatening Big Pharma pain pill profits.

Like Lucifer always says, follow the money.  The divide isn't really right or left, or conservative or liberal.  It actually seems to be authoritarian centralized control vs letting the free market decide the best medical treatment for pain.

So I don't really know if I should call myself "liberal" on the marijuana issue anymore.  Not if by "liberal" you mean the Democrat elite these days.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: elwood blues on March 01, 2022, 10:20:41 AM
My rule is basically, as long as your lifestyle causes others no harm...,


Well, that's the trick, isn't it?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on March 01, 2022, 10:28:01 AM
My rule is basically, as long as your lifestyle causes others no harm, enjoy!
But I'm offended by your lifestyle.  It causes me great mental harm.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on March 01, 2022, 11:53:33 AM
But I'm offended by your lifestyle.  It causes me great mental harm.

Yeah, those pussies can go stuff it. All the triggered bullshit is exactly that, bullshit.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on March 01, 2022, 11:56:23 AM
So I don't really know if I should call myself "liberal" on the marijuana issue anymore.  Not if by "liberal" you mean the Democrat elite these days.

I think you're just common sense on marijuana. I personally have no issues with legalization and taxation of weed, I don't find it much different than the present legal intoxicant.

Of course, as you say, there are multiple lobbies that migh wish to oppose such an action.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on March 01, 2022, 12:01:01 PM
But I'm offended by your lifestyle.  It causes me great mental harm.

Your mental harm causes me mental harm.  I demand you stop it!

This is why the Left's philosophy doesn't work.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 12:51:50 PM
Well there you have it.  A literal madman, just like Hitler.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 01, 2022, 01:08:50 PM
Well there you have it.  A literal madman, just like Hitler.



We’re being played big time right now.   Sorry, I’m not buying any propaganda.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 01:33:40 PM
We’re being played big time right now.   Sorry, I’m not buying any propaganda.

You think they’re doing that to make us think we should go head to head with him?  I agree he is a psychopathic madman, but I don’t want to go fight him.  This isn’t 1941 and everybody has too many nukes now.  Ukraine is lost, we missed our chance to avoid all of this.   I DEFINITELY don’t want to go to war with Biden at the helm.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 01, 2022, 06:24:34 PM
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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on March 02, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
I guess Burisma shut off payments to the Biden family and this is their revenge?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 02, 2022, 05:56:58 PM
They are calling all Russian citizens to come out into the streets and protest on March 6.  Russia is gonna have their very own insurrection!  No doubt they’ll be hauled off to rot in jail without due process, just like here in America!

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on March 03, 2022, 09:46:11 AM
Really not amazing that TASS has better and more accurate reporting than CNN.
https://tass.com/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 04, 2022, 04:03:11 AM
Really not amazing that TASS has better and more accurate reporting than CNN.
https://tass.com/

Somebody ‘splain this to me:

Quote
State Duma introduces criminal liability for calls for sanctions against Russia

Such deeds will be punishable with a fine, or by deprivation of liberty, obligatory labor, arrest, or imprisonment

Is that Russia saying that if its own citizen merely speaks an opinion supporting sanctions against Russia then they will be convicted and sentenced to 3 years forced labor, fines, and “deprivation of liberty”?
LOL, liberty.  Like Russians have any.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 04, 2022, 05:04:40 AM
Putin has ordered Russian media not to use the words “invasion” or “war”, as they are false misinformation.

Twitter, Youtube and Facebook would be proud of this outstanding level of calling obvious truth “misinformation”.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/02/26/russia-bans-media-outlets-from-using-words-war-invasion-a76605
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on March 04, 2022, 05:48:52 AM
Somebody ‘splain this to me:

Russia is not a free country. They are the evil empire and Putin is the evil Emperor.

I kow it’s obvious but you did ask someone to mansplain it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 04, 2022, 05:58:29 AM
Putin has ordered Russian media not to use the words “invasion” or “war”, as they are false misinformation.

Twitter, Youtube and Facebook would be proud of this outstanding level of calling obvious truth “misinformation”.

Our Mainstream Media does it too, as does Canada, Australia, UK and others, WITHOUT being ordered directly by Government.  Well, we don't know who is behind the scenes.  They are following someone's orders. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 04, 2022, 06:17:08 AM
Trump in 2018 warning Germany not to keep buying oil and gas from Russia, that Germany is now 70% energy dependent on Russia, and all of Europe is becoming too dependent on Russian energy, sending $billions to Russia while the U.S. taxpayer continues to fund NATOs defense.

Now look at the pickle Europe is in.  Trump was spot on.  Yet now we have a clueless vapid vegetable as a “wartime president”. 

Everyone stupid enough to vote or cheat to take Trump out of office is responsible for this disaster that could well result in nuclear obliteration of the whole human race.  Thanks a lot you motherfucking Democrats.  Putin saw that the first thing Biden did was turn the U.S. from an oil exporter to an oil importer and saw his chance to make a move. He wouldn’t have dared do this with Trump in office.


Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 04, 2022, 08:24:55 AM
^^^^^What Rush said. Full stop. ^^^^^
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Ron22 on March 04, 2022, 10:31:09 AM
Nice to see the USA leading the world.

https://twitter.com/davekeating/status/1499752553810214916?s=21

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220304/a22d43ce08ecef29faff4e6d3fdd0901.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on March 04, 2022, 11:03:50 AM
Nice to see the USA leading the world.

https://twitter.com/davekeating/status/1499752553810214916?s=21

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220304/a22d43ce08ecef29faff4e6d3fdd0901.jpg)

It's not the size of your sanction, but how you use it.

Or so I hear...
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 04, 2022, 02:39:43 PM
Sanctions…….

And we are financing Russia by buying 600,000 bbls a day in oil. 

Give me a fuckin’ break.     We are being played yet again.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 04, 2022, 06:32:35 PM
Russia has blocked Facebook.
Karma.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 04, 2022, 06:34:26 PM
Russia has blocked Facebook.
Karma.

  But that violates free speech...............
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 04, 2022, 07:29:14 PM
Kamala is off to visit Poland and Romania to show support for Ukraine sovereignty.  And she can’t be bothered to visit the fucking U.S. Mexico border to show support for U.S. sovereignty. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 04, 2022, 07:32:21 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/4d-chess-us-mexico-border-disguised-as-ukrainian-border-so-democrats-will-defend-it
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 05, 2022, 03:21:38 AM
^^^^^What Rush said. Full stop. ^^^^^

Yep.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 05, 2022, 03:23:30 AM
Sanctions…….

And we are financing Russia by buying 600,000 bbls a day in oil. 

Give me a fuckin’ break.     We are being played yet again.

We'll buy Russian oil but aren't allowed by the Democrats to drill and transport oil and natural gas here.  Madness.  They need the guillotine.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2022, 06:58:34 AM
Someone will be along shortly to say "meh" and explain this away.


https://twitter.com/MrsT106/status/1499882430668619780?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499882430668619780%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2022%2F03%2Fjoey-cheese-brain-biden-get-place-know-putin-decides-going-invade-russia-video%2F
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 05, 2022, 07:22:21 AM
Someone will be along shortly to say "meh" and explain this away.


https://twitter.com/MrsT106/status/1499882430668619780?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499882430668619780%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2022%2F03%2Fjoey-cheese-brain-biden-get-place-know-putin-decides-going-invade-russia-video%2F

To answer your question, Joe, look in the mirror.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 05, 2022, 09:55:29 AM
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2022, 03:12:19 PM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1500173342795603969
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 05, 2022, 05:23:25 PM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1500173342795603969

Ted, oil and gas embargo? We need to step up our own ASAP.  And billions to Zelensky will only increase our inflation.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 05, 2022, 05:54:02 PM
Interesting battle and context of what’s going on!

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 05, 2022, 08:12:38 PM
I wonder if this is true.  Trump told Putin, “You invade Ukraine, I’ll drop a bomb on Moscow.” 

True or not, Trump was crazy enough for Putin to think he’d do it.  I am convinced Putin would not have done this if Trump were in the White House.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on March 05, 2022, 08:18:22 PM
Donald Trump was not putin's bitch like biden...

Donald Trump was not xi's bitch like biden...

Donald Trump was not soros' bitch like biden....
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on March 06, 2022, 06:31:21 AM
Ted, oil and gas embargo? We need to step up our own ASAP.  And billions to Zelensky will only increase our inflation.
The billions to Zelensky would indirectly affect inflation, but it would primarily come back to feed the military / industrial complex.  As intended.  Here's a few billion.  If you buy our weapons.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on March 06, 2022, 06:32:50 AM
Donald Trump was not putin's bitch like biden...
But but but Russia helped him win the election!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 06, 2022, 06:03:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNMc9KQWYAANINJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 06, 2022, 06:08:36 PM
standard liberal thinking - it's always the fault of someone else... never ever take responsibility

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 07, 2022, 12:37:01 PM
So this is interesting. I have some sites I visit in MeWe. One of them is called MAGA AGAIN.  Yes, lots of pro Trump stuff.

However, I noticed a very subtle pro-Russia, anti-Ukraine vibe on that site.  I’m wondering if the organizers feel that, or if it’s a Russian bot site.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2022, 12:58:38 PM
So this is interesting. I have some sites I visit in MeWe. One of them is called MAGA AGAIN.  Yes, lots of pro Trump stuff.

However, I noticed a very subtle pro-Russia, anti-Ukraine vibe on that site.  I’m wondering if the organizers feel that, or if it’s a Russian bot site.

It sounds like it. Some "alt right" I hear them say we don't want to get entangled in it, but NO ONE supports Putin.  People might be pro-Russian people, but if anyone is saying pro-Trump people approve of what Putin is doing then they are most likely Russian operatives or simply American leftist propagandists. Because the left is all pro-Ukraine right now, the assumption is the right is the opposite. Nothing could be further from the truth but the left would like to paint the right as "on the wrong side".  With no evidence.

That's my take anyway.  So far.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 07, 2022, 01:28:07 PM
It sounds like it. Some "alt right" I hear them say we don't want to get entangled in it, but NO ONE supports Putin.  People might be pro-Russian people, but if anyone is saying pro-Trump people approve of what Putin is doing then they are most likely Russian operatives or simply American leftist propagandists. Because the left is all pro-Ukraine right now, the assumption is the right is the opposite. Nothing could be further from the truth but the left would like to paint the right as "on the wrong side".  With no evidence.

That's my take anyway.  So far.

I think that's accurate.  I went by a restaurant today that has a bar also. Pretty upscale place. They had a large sign out front saying no Russian Vodka served here.   More virtue signaling from some Leftist owner or manager. These people are pathetic.  And I paid $4.45 for gasoline.  No not 100LL.   >:(
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on March 07, 2022, 01:29:46 PM
$4.40 here yesterday...
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 07, 2022, 02:05:43 PM
It sounds like it. Some "alt right" I hear them say we don't want to get entangled in it, but NO ONE supports Putin.  People might be pro-Russian people, but if anyone is saying pro-Trump people approve of what Putin is doing then they are most likely Russian operatives or simply American leftist propagandists. Because the left is all pro-Ukraine right now, the assumption is the right is the opposite. Nothing could be further from the truth but the left would like to paint the right as "on the wrong side".  With no evidence.

That's my take anyway.  So far.
I would say it’s mostly anti-Ukraine vs pro-Putin. This is the most egregious.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220307/4e89883666faffe0bb08f2a71ca2735a.jpg)

Also this:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220307/0236a2bc8d0fe74d83912035c2bf877a.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2022, 02:07:54 PM
I filled up at 3.76 today. 4 days ago it was at 3.01. I'm sure it will be over 4.00 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Old Crow on March 07, 2022, 03:09:02 PM
$4.29 for the 87 and diesel is $5.09
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 07, 2022, 03:12:04 PM
I would say it’s mostly anti-Ukraine vs pro-Putin. This is the most egregious.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220307/4e89883666faffe0bb08f2a71ca2735a.jpg)


Good heavens. "MAGA AGAIN" is short for "Make America Great Again Again".
That is just wrong wrong.
 ;D

Seriously though, it's Russian propaganda/trolling.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 07, 2022, 03:29:27 PM
Filled up yesterday at $3.699, same station was $3.999 this morning.

Since 1/18/2021 price has increased 89%  Let's Go Brandon
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 07, 2022, 03:46:47 PM
Filled up yesterday at $3.699, same station was $3.999 this morning.

Since 1/18/2021 price has increased 89%  Let's Go Brandon

  You are aware this is all Putin's fault, right?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 07, 2022, 04:04:26 PM
  You are aware this is all Putin's fault, right?

And Trump.  They are in cahoots!  Lol!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 08, 2022, 05:20:22 AM
LOL. Putin is threatening to cut off gas flow to Europe.  Question:  Won’t that also cut off money flow to Putin?  Will China just send him money?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on March 08, 2022, 05:33:43 AM
LOL. Putin is threatening to cut off gas flow to Europe.  Question:  Won’t that also cut off money flow to Putin?  Will China just send him money?

Germany should have listened to Trump. Nobody wanted to listen to Trump, and now we all pay.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 08, 2022, 06:04:08 AM
LOL. Putin is threatening to cut off gas flow to Europe.  Question:  Won’t that also cut off money flow to Putin?  Will China just send him money?

  China won't send him money.   However, it's still cold in Europe.  No fuel means no heat, also means most deliveries stop so people start going hungry.  It's a game of chicken.

  Europe stuck their middle finger in the air when the US tried to tell them not to get dependent on Russian oil.  Now the price will be paid.

 Oh, and look for the lunatic left to blame this on Trump.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 08, 2022, 06:59:58 AM
  China won't send him money.   However, it's still cold in Europe.  No fuel means no heat, also means most deliveries stop so people start going hungry.  It's a game of chicken.

  Europe stuck their middle finger in the air when the US tried to tell them not to get dependent on Russian oil.  Now the price will be paid.

 Oh, and look for the lunatic left to blame this on Trump.

Yep exactly.

Speaking of winter, a lot of the videos I see of the fighting in Ukraine is with snow falling.  And civilians fleeing under frozen precipitation.  What a miserable mess.  At least the dead bodies and body parts might take longer to start smelling.

Speaking of dead Russians, there is a Ukrainian phone line Russian family members can call to try to find out information about their soldier who has stopped texting them.  Usually they don’t get anything.  The Ukrainians claimed, at least at first, to be collecting IDs and photo images of the dead to put up on their 200rf or whatever website and Twitter account so Russian families can identify them, but as the body count and chaos mounts, I wonder how well they are keeping up with that.

Unlike the first two world wars we now have DNA technology that, in theory, could supply conclusive proof of a MIA’s demise.  But the resources to do that would be immense.  You’d have to collect a sample from each of the bodies (whether whole or in unidentifiable pieces) before chucking it all into a mass grave, which they must do, if, as some of the Russian captives have said, the Russians are not bothering to collect their dead.  You’d have to preserve the samples, ultimately test them, the families in Russia would need to do likewise and so on.  I have no idea if anyone is attempting to do this. I can imagine the Ukrainians caring less and less about the Russian dead as more and more of their own civilians are being killed.

The Russians can’t even manage to move their 40+ mile long convoy, or keep it supplied with food and fuel, much less move bodies back in the other direction.  The crew in that convoy are in many cases moving out of the vehicles to camp in the woods at some distance for fear of Ukrainian spot attacks.  They are running out of food and water.  I imagine some might be deserting and trying to melt into the countryside, to take their chances switching sides. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Old Crow on March 08, 2022, 11:10:50 AM
The Russians can’t even manage to move their 40+ mile long convoy, or keep it supplied with food and fuel, much less move bodies back in the other direction.  The crew in that convoy are in many cases moving out of the vehicles to camp in the woods at some distance for fear of Ukrainian spot attacks.  They are running out of food and water.  I imagine some might be deserting and trying to melt into the countryside, to take their chances switching sides.
I keep wondering what that convoy is waiting for.  Is the news about them running out of food and fuel a smokescreen?  Something stinks in this mess.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 08, 2022, 01:45:43 PM
I keep wondering what that convoy is waiting for.  Is the news about them running out of food and fuel a smokescreen?  Something stinks in this mess.

  Russian military is known for their lack of maintenance and using old outdated and dilapidated vehicles.  This, and a group of men who don't want to actually be there, and Vlad has major problems.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 08, 2022, 06:27:56 PM
I keep wondering what that convoy is waiting for.  Is the news about them running out of food and fuel a smokescreen?  Something stinks in this mess.

I’m inclined to believe it’s true but there is a lot of propaganda.  There’s a rumor floating around that one of the Belarusian Generals resigned because of mass refusal by military units to take actions against Ukraine, but that was denied by their Defense Ministry.  Although I can believe the rank and file “cannon fodder” Belarusians want to go invade Ukraine about as much as the Russian soldiers do.

Possibly what happened is he tried to resign and got told he and his whole family will be disappeared if he doesn’t fall in line.

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/75790/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 08, 2022, 09:35:51 PM
According to this guy, one possibility is that the the 40 mile long convoy is a result of the Russians establishing forward operating bases in anticipation of a long conflict - meanwhile parking alongside the road simply because there are no forward areas large (yet) for them.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 09, 2022, 06:17:24 AM
(https://blazingcatfur.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/putin-twitter.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 09, 2022, 06:18:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6PUkquq.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 09, 2022, 06:40:26 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6PUkquq.jpg)

Image search confirms that’s true.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 09, 2022, 03:52:49 PM
 Cathartic. Should you be missing real leadership and pro-America energy in the White House, this is for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRbRoQcO9os
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 09, 2022, 04:03:28 PM
if only the person behind the camera understood the proper use whip-pans and panning.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 10, 2022, 06:29:36 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/u6S6tvz.jpg]%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3E[img]https://i.imgur.com/YLJ2XY5.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on March 10, 2022, 09:19:40 AM
…and millions of idiot liberals fell for every one of those lies.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 10, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
The MEDIA is blaming high gasoline prices and inflation of other essentials solely on Russia, Putin and the Ukraine situation.  Yet this was ALL happening prior to the invasion.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 10, 2022, 11:23:47 AM
The MEDIA is blaming high gasoline prices and inflation of other essentials solely on Russia, Putin and the Ukraine situation.  Yet this was ALL happening prior to the invasion.

The problem is the segment of the population stupid enough to buy it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 10, 2022, 11:28:04 AM
The problem is the segment of the population stupid enough to buy it.

That's the plan.  It's working.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 10, 2022, 11:34:30 AM
Jesus fucking christ. Harris is again giggling like a fucking goddamned retard on the worlds stage when questioned on serious matters. And Peppermint Patty is saying that gas prices are high because people were driving more because of covid lockdowns. WTF?!?! Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mase on March 10, 2022, 11:53:49 AM
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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 10, 2022, 12:35:38 PM
yup - the russian soldiers must be really proud of their accomplishments.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 10, 2022, 12:48:47 PM
Jesus fucking christ. Harris is again giggling like a fucking goddamned retard on the worlds stage when questioned on serious matters. And Peppermint Patty is saying that gas prices are high because people were driving more because of covid lockdowns. WTF?!?! Embarrassing.
This?  Because yes, a humanitarian and refugee crisis is fuckjng hilarious. 

And people say Trump embarrassed us on the world stage. Smh

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1501901624943464449?t=uHUXQsz9K7k5M-xBpmxdZw&s=07
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 10, 2022, 12:54:02 PM
This?  Because yes, a humanitarian and refugee crisis is fuckjng hilarious. 

And people say Trump embarrassed us on the world stage. Smh

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1501901624943464449?t=uHUXQsz9K7k5M-xBpmxdZw&s=07

Yep. Such an embarassment. Bring her back, don't let her out of her offices, keep her off TV.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 10, 2022, 01:06:48 PM
This?  Because yes, a humanitarian and refugee crisis is fuckjng hilarious. 

And people say Trump embarrassed us on the world stage. Smh

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1501901624943464449?t=uHUXQsz9K7k5M-xBpmxdZw&s=07

Wow!  “Hahahaha!  A friend in need is a friend indeed, hahahahaha!”  Talking about refugees?  Wtf?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 10, 2022, 01:19:49 PM
This?  Because yes, a humanitarian and refugee crisis is fuckjng hilarious. 

And people say Trump embarrassed us on the world stage. Smh

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1501901624943464449?t=uHUXQsz9K7k5M-xBpmxdZw&s=07

I knew one person who suffered from nervous laughter - they had difficulty controlling it.

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/nervous-laughter (https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/nervous-laughter)

"Nervous laughter is called an incongruous emotion. This means that you experience an emotion when the situation doesn’t necessarily call for it.

Nervous laughter happens for a number of reasons. Some research suggests that your body uses this sort of mechanism to regulate emotion. Other research has found that nervous laughter may be a defense mechanism against emotions that may make us feel weak or vulnerable.

Either way, it’s pretty weird to experience. Uncontrollable nervous laughter may also be a symptom of an underlying condition."
...
"So we’re essentially reassuring ourselves that whatever’s making us uncomfortable isn’t that big a deal when we laugh at an uncomfortable situation.

This could be a result of a cognitive defense mechanism for lowering anxiety associated with discomfort or showing the threat itself that we don’t fear it."
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 10, 2022, 01:24:14 PM
I knew one person who suffered from nervous laughter - they had difficulty controlling it.

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/nervous-laughter (https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/nervous-laughter)

"Nervous laughter is called an incongruous emotion. This means that you experience an emotion when the situation doesn’t necessarily call for it.

Nervous laughter happens for a number of reasons. Some research suggests that your body uses this sort of mechanism to regulate emotion. Other research has found that nervous laughter may be a defense mechanism against emotions that may make us feel weak or vulnerable.

Either way, it’s pretty weird to experience. Uncontrollable nervous laughter may also be a symptom of an underlying condition."
...
"So we’re essentially reassuring ourselves that whatever’s making us uncomfortable isn’t that big a deal when we laugh at an uncomfortable situation.

This could be a result of a cognitive defense mechanism for lowering anxiety associated with discomfort or showing the threat itself that we don’t fear it."

So we are 1 seat of office away from a person who is unable to control their emotions from having access to nuclear weapons? Time to remove her from her office.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 10, 2022, 01:41:12 PM
So we are 1 seat of office away from a person who is unable to control their emotions from having access to nuclear weapons? Time to remove her from her office.

Indeed. Inability to regulate emotion, eh? Defending herself from uncomfortable emotions? Whoa.  Maybe she needs some therapy for that. I’m old enough to remember the Eagleton summer. Harris always, always sounds like a kid doing a book report who hasn’t read the book.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Old Crow on March 10, 2022, 04:51:15 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-press-secretary-ukrainian-president-tragedy-kamala-harris-president
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 10, 2022, 06:44:22 PM
Indeed. Inability to regulate emotion, eh? Defending herself from uncomfortable emotions? Whoa.  Maybe she needs some therapy for that. I’m old enough to remember the Eagleton summer. Harris always, always sounds like a kid doing a book report who hasn’t read the book.

Well put. She is way out of her depth.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 10, 2022, 06:57:40 PM
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 10, 2022, 07:06:39 PM
Cathartic. Should you be missing real leadership and pro-America energy in the White House, this is for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRbRoQcO9os

Glad I got around to watching it before it was “removed for violating YouTube’s community guidelines”.

Wow.  What was the name of that YouTube channel?  Those three kids?  I want to find their podcast. It was something podcast?  Full Send Podcast, found remnants of it in search results.

Here’s a parade of it.  Hurry before they remove that too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3s7ilIHASY

FOUND THE ORIGINAL

https://odysee.com/@QuantumRhino:9/Donald-Trump-on-WW3--Talking-to-Putin-and-Joe-Rogan---FULL-SEND-Podcast:8
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 11, 2022, 05:40:17 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/u68eCPw.gif)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 11, 2022, 05:44:45 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/AUcufvL.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 11, 2022, 05:49:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/u68eCPw.gif)

It works to deceive the masses because the MEDIA is promoting this crap.  People believe pure propaganda.  Goebbels would be envious how gullible people have become.  I see people still wearing masks outside and in cars when ALONE.  Pure MEDIA driven irrational fear. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 11, 2022, 06:34:20 AM
News videos I watched:

They’re calling for cold temperatures in Ukraine and suggesting that the Russians could freeze to death in their tanks if they aren’t kept supplied with fuel.

The convoy is splitting up, fanning out into the forest.  This is apparently an official order, as opposed to many of the soldiers having already abandoned the convoy to either loot nearby villages or turn themselves in to the Ukrainians.

Going out into the forest means the surrounding villages.  More contact with civilians.  I listened to an audio of Russian soldiers encountering civilians, robbing them, then deciding whether to kill them.  “If we don’t they will give away our position,” one said, so they did.  I have no idea if it is authentic.

Think about it.  You’re a drafted soldier. You were lied to about going into battle, and you have no beef with these people.  You find yourself a sitting duck for two weeks in a line of tanks being randomly blown up.  Maybe your food and water are running low.  What would you do?  Stay where you are, wait to eventually get to Kyiv and face intense battle with an enemy that has good reason to fight to the death?  That is, if the Ukrainians don’t first destroy you where you sit, or you die of hypothermia.

Maybe you figure the risk to yourself is way less if you leave the convoy on foot, find a village, turn yourself in and hope to survive the war as a POW.  I have to believe many were doing that, not all, not even most, but some.  So now the commanders say “this isn’t working.”  So now we have tank crews on missions to infiltrate the landscape. Maybe we get a lot more of the encounters with civilians where they end up dead.

I have no idea if my take is accurate nor am I judging what anyone over there does.  If the Russians don’t obey orders they face prison or execution when they get home.  If they desert and deliberately surrender to the enemy they know they can never return home.  One of them said that he feared punishment from Putin for just getting captured because he “failed” at his job.  But who knows if captured Russians are coerced by the Ukrainians into saying things that portray the Russians as worse than they are.  They don’t look very coerced.  Not like western hostages of Islamic terrorists. You can kind of tell when people are being forced to say stuff.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 11, 2022, 07:08:05 AM
So now the US is worried that their US funded BioWeapons labs in the Ukraine could be compromised by the Russians.

What in the hell is the US doing with bioweapon labs in a country like Ukraine??

This is really starting to stink.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Old Crow on March 11, 2022, 07:47:47 AM
So now the US is worried that their US funded BioWeapons labs in the Ukraine could be compromised by the Russians.

What in the hell is the US doing with bioweapon labs in a country like Ukraine??

This is really starting to stink.
Maybe ask Hunter?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 11, 2022, 08:01:56 AM
So now the US is worried that their US funded BioWeapons labs in the Ukraine could be compromised by the Russians.

What in the hell is the US doing with bioweapon labs in a country like Ukraine??

This is really starting to stink.

Whatever it is, I bet money it wasn’t Trump.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 11, 2022, 08:06:09 AM

Tell me you’ve been part of the swap for too long without telling me you’ve been a part of the swamp for too long. Go.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 11, 2022, 08:18:15 AM
I hate to say it but CNN agrees with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuX4LfbxUKk
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: elwood blues on March 11, 2022, 12:04:27 PM
Maybe ask Hunter?

Or Romney, or Cheney, or ...


Whatever it is, I bet money it wasn’t Trump.

Agreed, but he will surely be blamed.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on March 11, 2022, 05:48:51 PM
What in the hell is the US doing with bioweapon labs in a country like Ukraine?

What the hell were we doing financing one in China? 

You shouldn’t ask questions you don’t already know the answer to. Tomorrow we will find out why it is Trump’s fault.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 11, 2022, 05:59:19 PM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1502428207491989506
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 11, 2022, 08:42:27 PM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1502428207491989506

IKR?  I was watching one of those CNN reports and almost posted it here saying “that’s rich!”  But got distracted and lost it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 12, 2022, 03:03:00 AM
I would believe any media more than CNN. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 03:33:33 AM
I would believe any media more than CNN.

How about - Russian propaganda:

https://www.198russianews.com/2022/03/10/the-struggle-against-the-western-propaganda/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 12, 2022, 03:40:09 AM
How about - Russian propaganda:

https://www.198russianews.com/2022/03/10/the-struggle-against-the-western-propaganda/

Yes,  because I expect that from them.  CNN being anti American, anti freedom and pro Totalitarian Marxism is really much worse. They are indicative of 95% of all media, however.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 04:16:30 AM
Oh goody.  Japan wants to get involved.  More deja vu.

https://boingboing.net/2022/03/08/japan-reaffirms-sovereignty-over-the-kuril-islands-annexed-by-russia-in-1945.html

Quote
The Kuril islands runs from Japan to Russia, separating the Okhotsk sea from the Pacific ocean. Annexed by Russia after World War II and administered by it since, the southernmost islands in the chain remain a Japanese claim—and on Monday, the long-running feud erupted with an unusually forthright announcement by Japan's prime minister.

"The Northern Territories are a territory that belongs to Japan, a territory over which Japan has sovereignty," the Japanese Prime Minister said.

On one hand, this is a return to language Japan used to use during the cold war. On the other hand, Russia has gone all-in on its Ukraine war—"nearly 100 percent of the Russian combat power prestaged at the Ukrainian border are now committed to the fight"—and Japan is suggesting that Russia couldn't do anything to stop Japan from taking the Kurils*.

* Short of nuclear war. And what an asterisk that is!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Old Crow on March 12, 2022, 05:45:40 AM
This is interesting.  How accurate?  Don't know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXFDc-44YeE
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 06:47:43 AM
This is interesting.  How accurate?  Don't know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXFDc-44YeE

Sounds good to me.  I can believe their reflexive control pulls Biden’s leash around, and the western media falls for their sensationalistic over statements about new technology, and the most frightening thing I got from it is how much bigger threat China is.  He even makes the point at the end that Russia’s sorry state of mundane maintenance shouldn’t lull us into underestimating them. I like his concept of looking at reality instead of stopping at manipulative media reporting.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on March 12, 2022, 07:48:50 AM
Some sober analysts (as opposed to the fucking mental dwarfs of the left) are saying that the Ukraine invasion might turn out to be as expensive a debacle as their foray into Afghanistan.

If Putin is as unbalanced as he seems, other factions might take a stronger hand and try to turn the tide of Putin's strategy of prosecuting an unnecessary war, while losing control of those he has had his boot on for years.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 08:33:38 AM
Some sober analysts (as opposed to the fucking mental dwarfs of the left) are saying that the Ukraine invasion might turn out to be as expensive a debacle as their foray into Afghanistan.

I’ve been thinking that myself.  And they didn’t seem to learn from Afghanistan like the U.S. did in Vietnam. We adjusted to warfare in jungle/village/urban/civilian settings.  They don’t seem to have.  Their column of tanks is straight out of WW2.  They were being picked off by unmanned drones.  Didn’t they see what Obama was doing all those years?  It looks like they might finally be learning, by dispersing off the road and hiding amongst houses and trees. 

But let’s say they do manage to kill Zelensky and take Kyiv.  They’re going to face chronic insurrection.  The west is being led to believe Zelensky is driving this whole thing.  I don’t believe that’s the case.  He’s a galvanizing force for sure, but only because the Ukrainians themselves want the fight.  It’s not top down from Zelensky like it is with Putin.  On the contrary Zelensky is merely leading them in what they would be doing anyway.  Without him the Ukrainians would appoint another leader and carry on the fight. The same cannot be said for Putin. His mile long table says it all:  A lone and paranoid old man.


Quote
If Putin is as unbalanced as he seems, other factions might take a stronger hand and try to turn the tide of Putin's strategy of prosecuting an unnecessary war, while losing control of those he has had his boot on for years.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 03:46:59 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/the-babylon-bee-has-obtained-this-exclusive-photo-of-the-ghost-of-kyiv/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2022, 03:59:00 PM
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1502301319599640578/vid/480x270/IGzdN61aOhZn9lT0.mp4?tag=14
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 05:09:01 PM
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1502301319599640578/vid/480x270/IGzdN61aOhZn9lT0.mp4?tag=14

WTF was that??
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2022, 05:16:37 PM
WTF was that??

  Word salad Kamala

 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 12, 2022, 05:18:06 PM
WTF was that??

Just a classic response to any question that isn't a softball - don't answer it, but simply spout a talking point.... or in the case of KT, just blabber.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 12, 2022, 06:06:04 PM
  Word salad Kamala

 
And people thought Dan Quayle was a fucking moron because he misspelled “potato.”
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2022, 07:05:02 PM
And people thought Dan Quayle was a fucking moron because he misspelled “potato.”

Seriously.. I have never in my life seen such deplorable lack of.. well everything needed in a leader. There is NOTHING there, absolutely nothing.  I don’t know what’s worse, between her complete lack of experience, knowledge, maturity or skill for the job, or Biden’s mental vacuum. I think she’s worse.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 12, 2022, 09:52:11 PM
Seriously.. I have never in my life seen such deplorable lack of.. well everything needed in a leader. There is NOTHING there, absolutely nothing.  I don’t know what’s worse, between her complete lack of experience, knowledge, maturity or skill for the job, or Biden’s mental vacuum. I think she’s worse.

They’re inhabited by evil. No love or concern for their fellow Americans. No love for their country. Empty husks.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 12, 2022, 09:52:19 PM
My 4 year old gives a more logical explanation giving the blame to some mythical creature as to why a bag of cheetos ended up all over the living room floor.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: texasag93 on March 13, 2022, 07:02:22 AM
My 4 year old gives a more logical explanation giving the blame to some mythical creature as to why a bag of cheetos ended up all over the living room floor.

I should have listened to my kids to hear if they gave me a reason as creative as that.

I just spanked the crap out of them so it would not happen again.

I rarely got a second chance to spank them for a repeat offense. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 13, 2022, 07:21:00 AM
I should have listened to my kids to hear if they gave me a reason as creative as that.

I just spanked the crap out of them so it would not happen again.

I rarely got a second chance to spank them for a repeat offense.

Haha!  Ours got one or two spankings but mostly were controlled by the 1,2,3 method.   If they weren’t behaving my husband just started counting, “One, two…”  That’s all it took.  One day one of them asked him, “What happens when you get to three?”  He shrugged and said, “I don’t know. But you don’t want to find out.”
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 13, 2022, 08:52:01 AM
I should have listened to my kids to hear if they gave me a reason as creative as that.

I just spanked the crap out of them so it would not happen again.

I rarely got a second chance to spank them for a repeat offense.

Usually the 5 second countdown is enough to get mine to behave, but had to get spanked last weekend. One whack. His reply, "That didn't hurt." Hopefully he learned his lesson from the next whack he got. I'm sure the far side of the neighborhood heard it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 14, 2022, 12:11:55 PM
Seriously.. I have never in my life seen such deplorable lack of.. well everything needed in a leader. There is NOTHING there, absolutely nothing.  I don’t know what’s worse, between her complete lack of experience, knowledge, maturity or skill for the job, or Biden’s mental vacuum. I think she’s worse.
I’ve had staff employees who have poor work ethic, disregard for their professional career, and people who just look at being a CPA as a job.

I can sometimes light a fire under some of these people, get them enthused for the job, and turn things around. But they have to go above and beyond to dig themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves. This means showing an interest, a thirst for knowledge, and a desire to become a subject matter expert.

That’s for a job in a CPA firm. And Kameltoe has no desire to do those things to become a better VP? 

That’s what an affirmative action hire gets you.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 14, 2022, 01:02:28 PM
I’ve had staff employees who have poor work ethic, disregard for their professional career, and people who just look at being a CPA as a job.

I can sometimes light a fire under some of these people, get them enthused for the job, and turn things around. But they have to go above and beyond to dig themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves. This means showing an interest, a thirst for knowledge, and a desire to become a subject matter expert.

That’s for a job in a CPA firm. And Kameltoe has no desire to do those things to become a better VP? 

That’s what an affirmative action hire gets you.

Here’s what pisses me off the most about affirmative action hires.  That everyone sees this and then assumes all minority hires are under qualified and were hired for their skin color, gender etc.  As a woman engineer I want to be known that I was hired because I’m good, better than the other candidates.  I don’t want people to think I was hired because I’m female.  I’m old now so I don’t give a shit but the best most excellent young engineer I know is a black female, extremely sweet, and was hired solely because she was the best out of all the candidates but in today’s hyper woke atmosphere with blatant race and sex discrimination against white males all over the place, people probably assume that she was hired because of her color and gender and because of Kamala Harris you can see why people think that. What about the SC nominee, Joey came right out and declared it would be a black female period. No consideration about who is best qualified.  So here is my friend who can engineer circles around everybody else, thrown in with the likes of those two whose top qualifications - in the case of Harris only qualifications - were their skin and genitals.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 14, 2022, 02:40:30 PM
Here’s what pisses me off the most about affirmative action hires.  That everyone sees this and then assumes all minority hires are under qualified and were hired for their skin color, gender etc.  As a woman engineer I want to be known that I was hired because I’m good, better than the other candidates.  I don’t want people to think I was hired because I’m female.  I’m old now so I don’t give a shit but the best most excellent young engineer I know is a black female, extremely sweet, and was hired solely because she was the best out of all the candidates but in today’s hyper woke atmosphere with blatant race and sex discrimination against white males all over the place, people probably assume that she was hired because of her color and gender and because of Kamala Harris you can see why people think that. What about the SC nominee, Joey came right out and declared it would be a black female period. No consideration about who is best qualified.  So here is my friend who can engineer circles around everybody else, thrown in with the likes of those two whose top qualifications - in the case of Harris only qualifications - were their skin and genitals.
You’re exactly right. More evidence that democrats don’t give a flying fuck about blacks or other minorities.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Old Crow on March 14, 2022, 04:11:03 PM
You’re exactly right. More evidence that democrats don’t give a flying fuck about blacks or other minorities.
My feeling is that dems do care about blacks and minorities but ONLY for their votes.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 15, 2022, 11:27:55 AM
Nice BMW accessory.  What’s in red letters on the bumper sticker at 1:26?  Lucifer can read it.  Hahahaha!
Hey, you can see it in the thumbnail without having to play it.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: texasag93 on March 15, 2022, 01:46:09 PM
My feeling is that dems do care about blacks and minorities but ONLY for their votes.

The Dems do not care if they can even fog a mirror, they just need the name and DOB so they can fill out the absentee ballot for them.

Texas' new voter requirement for absentee ballots is last 4 of SS# or full Texas ID. 




Guess what?  The Dems do not have that and see what happens:

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/more-than-25-of-tarrant-mail-in-ballots-may-not-count-because-of-new-rules/2893544/ (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/more-than-25-of-tarrant-mail-in-ballots-may-not-count-because-of-new-rules/2893544/)




From the story:


More than 25% of mail-in ballots are being “questioned” and could ultimately not count unless voters correct their ballots, said elections administrator Heider Garcia.

“It’s significantly higher” than past elections which saw a less than 10% rejection rate, Garcia said.

Last year, the Republican-controlled Texas Legislature passed new rules they say make it harder to cheat.

This is the first election since those changes, which require more information from voters on mail-in ballots.

Specifically, voters must include their driver’s license number or last four digits of their social security number under a flap on the envelope.

The numbers must match the information on file with the election office.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 15, 2022, 02:23:39 PM
Yay Texas! That's why the Dems are importing illegals there.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 16, 2022, 06:45:15 AM
https://twitter.com/Brick_Suit/status/1503929659653713923?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1503929659653713923%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fpelosi-hits-the-bottle-early%2F
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 16, 2022, 07:35:40 AM
Yay Texas! That's why the Dems are importing illegals there.

It’s backfiring on them.  The flood of new illegals has caused established citizen Hispanics to flip red in growing numbers.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 16, 2022, 08:35:30 AM


More Russell Brand
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 16, 2022, 11:03:43 AM
It’s backfiring on them.  The flood of new illegals has caused established citizen Hispanics to flip red in growing numbers.

My friend's wife is 2nd or 3rd generation Mexican American from LA now in Texas. Holy shit don't get her started on illegal Mexicans.

Now my brother, who lives on Martha's Vineyard, and won't surprise me if he takes out Obama one day (just kidding, I hope), doesn't mind them. According to him, they work. He hates Brazillians, who are the top of the food chain for laziness and welfare handouts, according to him.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 16, 2022, 12:40:36 PM
My friend's wife is 2nd or 3rd generation Mexican American from LA now in Texas. Holy shit don't get her started on illegal Mexicans.

Now my brother, who lives on Martha's Vineyard, and won't surprise me if he takes out Obama one day (just kidding, I hope), doesn't mind them. According to him, they work. He hates Brazillians, who are the top of the food chain for laziness and welfare handouts, according to him.

I have two adopted nieces who are Hispanic from Guatemala I believe, were in a Mexican orphanage when my brother and SIL adopted them.  They are both definitely NOT leftists.  Pretty much right leaning libertarian/conservative.

I hear bad things about Brazil, high crime rate, violent gangs. Don’t know if that’s just perception or if it’s really worse there than elsewhere.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 16, 2022, 03:55:21 PM
I'm beginning to believe this is all part of plan between Russia, China and some mid eastern nations to cut us down.  I believe they know there is no way Biden will allow himself to get drawn into this thing. They do know we'll throw money at it left and right that we'll have to print.  They could give a rats ass if Ukraine is destroyed or how many people are killed in the process. Once they have severely damaged our credibility China will sweep in and negotiate peace and look like the new world leader they really want to be. We've seen one hand begin to be played with the Saudis looking at accepting the Yuan from China, the beginning of cutting us off at the knees. The know they have three more years to get this done before a possible return of Trump and by then it will be too late. We'll swamped by inflation, our currency will be worthless as China will have replaced the dollar as the world currency and we'll be totally fucked.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 16, 2022, 04:02:41 PM
I'm beginning to believe this is all part of plan between Russia, China and some mid eastern nations to cut us down.  I believe they know there is no way Biden will allow himself to get drawn into this thing. They do know we'll throw money at it left and right that we'll have to print.  They could give a rats ass if Ukraine is destroyed or how many people are killed in the process. Once they have severely damaged our credibility China will sweep in and negotiate peace and look like the new world leader they really want to be. We've seen one hand begin to be played with the Saudis looking at accepting the Yuan from China, the beginning of cutting us off at the knees. The know they have three more years to get this done before a possible return of Trump and by then it will be too late. We'll swamped by inflation, our currency will be worthless as China will have replaced the dollar as the world currency and we'll be totally fucked.

kind of a reverse of President Reagan "forcing" the USSR to spend itself into oblivion?

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 16, 2022, 04:39:53 PM
I'm beginning to believe this is all part of plan between Russia, China and some mid eastern nations to cut us down.  I believe they know there is no way Biden will allow himself to get drawn into this thing. They do know we'll throw money at it left and right that we'll have to print.  They could give a rats ass if Ukraine is destroyed or how many people are killed in the process. Once they have severely damaged our credibility China will sweep in and negotiate peace and look like the new world leader they really want to be. We've seen one hand begin to be played with the Saudis looking at accepting the Yuan from China, the beginning of cutting us off at the knees. The know they have three more years to get this done before a possible return of Trump and by then it will be too late. We'll swamped by inflation, our currency will be worthless as China will have replaced the dollar as the world currency and we'll be totally fucked.

Pretty diabolical of Russia to be a party to a plan that makes its military look so inept, among other things.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 16, 2022, 05:06:24 PM
Yes. We are doomed.  Can’t put it any plainer than this:

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 16, 2022, 05:15:13 PM
The worthless clown occupying the whitehouse makes President Bush (George W) look eloquent.  Heck, the clown makes *EVERYONE* look eloquent in comparison.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 16, 2022, 05:28:41 PM
But look at what's important here..............at least no more mean tweets to hurt anyone's feelings.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 16, 2022, 06:03:46 PM
We are doomed. Listen to this Russian government official.  “We are are going to clean Ukraine of Nazis,” as they indiscriminately bomb civilians.  Russia is actually after all of us.  I applaud Mikhaila for presenting both sides. 

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 16, 2022, 06:20:30 PM
We are doomed. Listen to this Russian government official.  “We are are going to clean Ukraine of Nazis,” as they indiscriminately bomb civilians.

  Meanwhile, our government is using words like treasonous and insurrectionist against anyone they disagree.  Our government uses another term "DVE" (Domestic Violent Extremist) to describe anyone who wants to peacefully protest, publicly disagree with politicians, disagree with how their children are being educated or simply wearing a MAGA hat.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 16, 2022, 06:59:53 PM
Basically Russia thinks it’s still WW2 except this time the U.S. and the rest of the allies are on Germany’s side.  That’s how deluded they are.  On the other hand with the left and the great reset, the west is indeed becoming an authoritarian threat.  But so is Putin.

So what we have here is two global sized authoritarian assholes about to throw nukes at each other and all us innocents will be crushed.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 17, 2022, 12:31:10 AM
But look at what's important here..............at least no more mean tweets to hurt anyone's feelings.

Thank the MEDIA, Tech and Covid justified mail in voter fraud four ousting Trump.  Propaganda and cheating works.  Especially with the Useful Idiots who populate Metro Areas today.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 17, 2022, 03:53:52 AM
The CCP egging Biden on now......

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 17, 2022, 05:03:39 AM
The CCP egging Biden on now......

(https://i.imgur.com/8jJgFby.gif)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 17, 2022, 07:13:36 AM
The CCP egging Biden on now......
This whole thing is such a clusterfuck. We have no cogent response, no plan, congressmen who want to start WWIII, people who don’t are called Putin propagandists, people like Tucker and Tulsi Gabbard being called TRAITORS and Putin sympathizers, commentators saying we used to hang people for giving aid and comfort to the enemy, which in this case means you don’t want US soldiers to die for our country.

This is a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 17, 2022, 07:15:29 AM
This whole thing is such a clusterfuck. We have no cogent response, no plan, congressmen who want to start WWIII, people who don’t are called Putin propagandists, people like Tucker and Tulsi Gabbard being called TRAITORS and Putin sympathizers, commentators saying we used to hang people for giving aid and comfort to the enemy, which in this case means you don’t want US soldiers to die for our country.

This is a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

  But thank god we don't have to tolerate any more mean tweets!!!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 17, 2022, 07:22:59 AM
Facebook unbans Nazis.  Nazis are good now because they fight for Ukraine and Putin says they are bad. We must disagree with Putin because Trump admires him.  So, Trump is no longer a Nazi?  What a mess.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on March 17, 2022, 08:04:06 AM
Do people even know what the Nazis were/are? Or like "pussy", is it just a knee jerk word?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 17, 2022, 08:21:34 AM
We have a President that wouldn't impose sanctions based on the build, even though they kept telling us the invasion was coming, knowing that the sanctions would take time to hit Russia. 


Biden was shown up by Poland. Blinken gave a green light to the Migs so Poland dropped them in our lap in Germany and now they just sit there.

Biden also spends time telling everyone what he's not going to do.'

In recap, we're so fucked.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 17, 2022, 08:25:36 AM
Do people even know what the Nazis were/are? Or like "pussy", is it just a knee jerk word?

I think people conflate “Nazi” with “authoritarian”.   If you notice when leftists talk about the threat of authoritarianism in the U.S. they are talking about conservatives, Trump or Republicans.  They are referring to anti-abortion laws and marriage is between one man and one woman, that sort of thing.

But when the Russians talk, I don’t know if the translation is literally Nazi or if they are using some Russian word for authoritarian, which they perceive the Ukrainian government to be.  However, they associate that with NATO, the U.S. and the west, and if you watch the Mikhaila Peterson video with the Russian giving his side, which I don’t blame you if you didn’t it’s so long, he is speaking about how the west has lost traditional values.  We have lost our morality with gays, wokeness and so on.  He is calling that “Nazi” which is the exact opposite of what the left in America call “Nazi”.

Of course the real definition of Nazi is very specifically Hitler’s socialist nationalism with antisemitic racism, anti-Catholic, anti-gay, and so on.  Strictly speaking Zelensky cannot be a Nazi - he’s Jewish.  So it seems nobody, really, is using the term correctly.  And it seems to me everyone is using the term to mean what they perceive as authoritarianism, or a power trying to impose their ideals or morals or lack of them on me.  Whatever my opinion is, the opposite is a Nazi.  If you substitute “authoritarian” then it fits; the right in American views the left as the authoritarian.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on March 17, 2022, 08:28:28 AM
Whatever my opinion is, the opposite is a Nazi.

Boiled down, I think that is close. Anyone who is really bad is a Nazi, because that name is associated with really bad people of the past. No matter if one really understands what a Nazi was.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on March 17, 2022, 09:10:38 AM
liberals use nazi and dictator like they use racism.

It's a word that is meant to define anyone who disagrees with their bullshit.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 17, 2022, 09:14:49 AM
Boiled down, I think that is close. Anyone who is really bad is a Nazi, because that name is associated with really bad people of the past. No matter if one really understands what a Nazi was.

I thought I’d watched all of that Russell Brand video, I hadn’t. So I just finished it, it is brilliant- not Brand, but the article he is reading.  Nails what’s going on. It is DELIBERATE changing definitions to keep us (the masses) off balance and unable to think for ourselves.

Brand himself does say something brilliant in the end, that the political spectrum is meaningless because it is ever shifting.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 17, 2022, 09:40:48 AM
Do people even know what the Nazis were/are? Or like "pussy", is it just a knee jerk word?
You mean like traitor, or racist, or white supremacist, or Putin apologist?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 17, 2022, 10:24:15 AM
You mean like traitor, or racist, or white supremacist, or Putin apologist?

My favorite is xenophobic.

Because I oppose illegal immigration, even though I favor legal immigration, I have an irrational fear of foreigners. How is that even logical? 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on March 17, 2022, 12:35:48 PM
My favorite is xenophobic.

Because I oppose illegal immigration, even though I favor legal immigration, I have an irrational fear of foreigners. How is that even logical?

Democrats ie; liberal communists need no logic, reason, or facts. They emote and despise anyone who actually thinks. 

Irrational are the ones who think voter ID means racism.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 17, 2022, 01:10:52 PM
My favorite is xenophobic.

Because I oppose illegal immigration, even though I favor legal immigration, I have an irrational fear of foreigners. How is that even logical?

I fear immigrants today because unlike the past waves of migrants, today's immigrants don't want to become American.  They still associate with their previous country and society.  Past immigrants wanted to be Americans because that gave them the best chance of economic and social success.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 17, 2022, 01:39:42 PM
I fear immigrants today because unlike the past waves of migrants, today's immigrants don't want to become American.  They still associate with their previous country and society.  Past immigrants wanted to be Americans because that gave them the best chance of economic and social success.

I guess we are encountering different legal immigrants.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 17, 2022, 01:40:57 PM
I fear immigrants today because unlike the past waves of migrants, today's immigrants don't want to become American.  They still associate with their previous country and society.  Past immigrants wanted to be Americans because that gave them the best chance of economic and social success.

One of Mikhaila Peterson’s guests disputed that.  (Although it is widely believed.)  He said that actually by the second or third generation, they are well assimilated and are indistinguishable from native born Americans in language, culture, religion and politics.  I take that to mean locally: if they’re in a Dem city they become soy drinking leftists and if they’re in redneck country they become gun toting Trump supporters.  From my personal experience around here in my corner of Texas that’s true.

BUT and this is a big but.  He said in Europe in some countries they automatically give immigrants welfare income which means they don’t have to work or start a business to survive, they cloister in isolated communities and those are the ones that retain the original culture.  The same might be true of pockets in America, especially in Dem states but in general, they must work, and by doing so they absorb our culture, not the first generation, but one or two generations down.

The opposition guy said social welfare programs is the big problem.  Unlimited immigration would be fine if it weren’t a burden on he taxpayers. 

Both these guys made astoundingly strong arguments.  I agree with a lot of what they both said.  The pro guy said the reason we have so many illegals is that the legal process to come in is so onerous and he’s right.  The anti guy said basically we don’t have enough room for more people. The pro guy said sure we do we have plenty of empty land and the anti guy said but they don’t settle there, they settle in already overcrowded cities.  They both made excellent points.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 17, 2022, 01:57:08 PM
Since the fertility rate in the U.S. has dropped below the replacement rate, the idea that there is no room for immigrants is dubious.

The only ethnic group  in the U.S. with a near-even fertility rate is Native Hawaiians:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/fertility-rates-in-the-united-states-by-ethnicity.html (https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/fertility-rates-in-the-united-states-by-ethnicity.html)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 17, 2022, 02:18:02 PM
Since the fertility rate in the U.S. has dropped below the replacement rate, the idea that there is no room for immigrants is dubious.

The only ethnic group  in the U.S. with a near-even fertility rate is Native Hawaiians:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/fertility-rates-in-the-united-states-by-ethnicity.html (https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/fertility-rates-in-the-united-states-by-ethnicity.html)

Exactly.  If we aren’t going to make our own babies we desperately need immigrants. Problem is they need to be vetted and legal.  We really need to overhaul our immigrant system, crack down harder on illegals, vet legals better, but streamline and speed up the process. No free benefits.  Make it easy and fast for able and productive people to come but they must be able to support themselves and have no criminal history.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 17, 2022, 07:03:49 PM
Exactly.  If we aren’t going to make our own babies we desperately need immigrants. Problem is they need to be vetted and legal.  We really need to overhaul our immigrant system, crack down harder on illegals, vet legals better, but streamline and speed up the process. No free benefits.  Make it easy and fast for able and productive people to come but they must be able to support themselves and have no criminal history.
A country must be able to control its border, control its immigration, and invite people who ADD to the country, not suck from it. Today, we are massively inviting people who have no purpose other than to suck from the country.

In the early 2000s the Hispanics were marching in the streets carrying MEXICAN flags shouting “Si Se Puede.”  My wife majored in Spanish in college and lived for half a year in Mexico, Peru, and Colombia. She was so disgusted she stopped speaking Spanish altogether.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 18, 2022, 05:11:39 AM
Now we have a bunch of Ukrainians and Russians on the Mexican border trying to get in, and it seems they’re letting the Ukrainians in but not the Russians.  And the delays and difficulties are of course Trumps’s fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW9kMVEVn5k
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 18, 2022, 06:34:10 AM
A country must be able to control its border, control its immigration, and invite people who ADD to the country, not suck from it. Today, we are massively inviting people who have no purpose other than to suck from the country.

In the early 2000s the Hispanics were marching in the streets carrying MEXICAN flags shouting “Si Se Puede.”  My wife majored in Spanish in college and lived for half a year in Mexico, Peru, and Colombia. She was so disgusted she stopped speaking Spanish altogether.

There's no reason to even have a country if you don't have secure borders. Without them, we're just a territory with "free" stuff for the taking. Our stuff. 

The Democrats and whomever runs them want a centralized World Government, where individuals have little or no say in their present nor future. They want controlled, subservient people who toil on their behalf. Wealth flows up, not down.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 18, 2022, 07:05:09 AM
There's no reason to even have a country if you don't have secure borders. Without them, we're just a territory with "free" stuff for the taking. Our stuff. 

The Democrats and whomever runs them want a centralized World Government, where individuals have little or no say in their present nor future. They want controlled, subservient people who toil on their behalf. Wealth flows up, not down.

The Democrats want a centralized world government and Putin wants to conquer the west and be the world strongman.  We are all caught in the middle between two unacceptable scenarios.  99.9999999% of the world’s people want to be left alone to just live.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 18, 2022, 07:12:20 AM
The Democrats want a centralized world government and Putin wants to conquer the west and be the world strongman.  We are all caught in the middle between two unacceptable scenarios.  99.9999999% of the world’s people want to be left alone to just live.

  I'll go a bit further.

  We are under the "Great Reset".  With the scamdemic fading, they needed another crisis to keep the pressure on the populace, so a nice little war was provoked.  But those doing the provocation are in fact morons, and they bit off way more than they can chew. 

  This has the potential to get really out of control with unintended consequences.  But the one thing that it will do is further reduce freedoms, and place the populace under more restrictions and controls.   Just look at everything Biden's handlers are doing right now, who is paying the price?  Those sanctions hurt the American citizens and the citizens of Russia, not the ruling class or the elites.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 18, 2022, 08:08:40 AM
  I'll go a bit further.

  We are under the "Great Reset".  With the scamdemic fading, they needed another crisis to keep the pressure on the populace, so a nice little war was provoked.  But those doing the provocation are in fact morons, and they bit off way more than they can chew. 

  This has the potential to get really out of control with unintended consequences.  But the one thing that it will do is further reduce freedoms, and place the populace under more restrictions and controls.   Just look at everything Biden's handlers are doing right now, who is paying the price?  Those sanctions hurt the American citizens and the citizens of Russia, not the ruling class or the elites.

We are probably due for another destructive World War which actually threatens the mainland and maybe Civil War to reset the priorities of the Useful Idiots who think they are green energy, LGBT, Women's Rights, Racism, etc.  Sad but true.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 18, 2022, 09:11:59 AM
We are probably due for another destructive World War which actually threatens the mainland and maybe Civil War to reset the priorities of the Useful Idiots who think they are green energy, LGBT, Women's Rights, Racism, etc.  Sad but true.

“Due for another war”…. I have a theory.  Why do we wage war?  The simplistic answer is competition over resources.  You know, like leftover from caveman days when resources were scarce.  That doesn’t make a lot of sense now.  Modern technology is advanced to the point we can easily supply the whole world with food and energy. We have an abundance of it, the only reason there is scarcity is political. Tribalism on the global scale and the “dark forest theory”. (You have to annihilate outside groups first because you can’t know their intentions, and they feel the same about you.)

But it might be way simpler than that.  It might be simply the extrapolated result of sexual selection:  Females select mates who are bigger and stronger and more dominant so as to give the best genes to her offspring.  So evolution results in some males becoming extremely dominant.  At the pinnacle are the most Machiavellian psychopaths - those who ruthlessly climb to the top of the dominance hierarchy, the ultimate expression of the “superior” genes that females select for.

But survival and superiority aren’t just about who is the most violent and dominant.  It’s also about empathy and compassion. You want a man to give your children genes for strength but you also need him to be cooperative in the group, and feel protective of you and your children. That’s why most males aren’t Machiavellian psychopaths.  Evolution won’t allow many like that, they are eventually stopped (like Hitler).  People like Hitler and Putin got the dominance genes but lack the humanity gene.

Feminists like to blame war on men.  That evil testosterone.  But it’s women who made them that way by selection.  It’s just that nature doesn’t always put all the genes together in the right balance and you end up with some extreme assholes like Putin.  We are always going to have some like that.  The good news is they are widely disapproved of once they show their true colors.  Unfortunately they cause massive suffering and destruction before they can be stopped.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 18, 2022, 09:14:32 AM
“Due for another war”…. I have a theory.  Why do we wage war?  ...

Tom Clancy (in the Jack Ryan novels and similar one) expressed a different view of war today and why countries wage war... but I'm way too laze to try to find it... maybe I'll get around to to it after I finally quote TMIAHM for you regarding news media...

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 18, 2022, 12:56:43 PM
Jen Psaki news briefing.... is it just me or is she really grating. She sounds condescending and annoyed at everybody.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on March 18, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Jen Psaki news briefing.... is it just me or is she really grating. She sounds condescending and annoyed at everybody.

Even the whore media have caught on that she lies like hilary.

Her temper is all about not getting a free pass every time she pukes the senile imposter’s lies.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 18, 2022, 04:53:05 PM
Even the whore media have caught on that she lies like hilary.

Her temper is all about not getting a free pass every time she pukes the senile imposter’s lies.

Yes.  I get the feeling it’s defensive hostility because she knows how full of shit she and that administration is.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 18, 2022, 05:08:03 PM
“Due for another war”…. I have a theory.  Why do we wage war?  The simplistic answer is competition over resources.  You know, like leftover from caveman days when resources were scarce.  That doesn’t make a lot of sense now.  Modern technology is advanced to the point we can easily supply the whole world with food and energy. We have an abundance of it, the only reason there is scarcity is political. Tribalism on the global scale and the “dark forest theory”. (You have to annihilate outside groups first because you can’t know their intentions, and they feel the same about you.)

But it might be way simpler than that.  It might be simply the extrapolated result of sexual selection:  Females select mates who are bigger and stronger and more dominant so as to give the best genes to her offspring.  So evolution results in some males becoming extremely dominant.  At the pinnacle are the most Machiavellian psychopaths - those who ruthlessly climb to the top of the dominance hierarchy, the ultimate expression of the “superior” genes that females select for.

But survival and superiority aren’t just about who is the most violent and dominant.  It’s also about empathy and compassion. You want a man to give your children genes for strength but you also need him to be cooperative in the group, and feel protective of you and your children. That’s why most males aren’t Machiavellian psychopaths.  Evolution won’t allow many like that, they are eventually stopped (like Hitler).  People like Hitler and Putin got the dominance genes but lack the humanity gene.

Feminists like to blame war on men.  That evil testosterone.  But it’s women who made them that way by selection.  It’s just that nature doesn’t always put all the genes together in the right balance and you end up with some extreme assholes like Putin.  We are always going to have some like that.  The good news is they are widely disapproved of once they show their true colors.  Unfortunately they cause massive suffering and destruction before they can be stopped.

Resources include markets today in our Global business model.  Physical resources too, and we have plenty, but as you say our resources, like energy, are only limited politically, to appease the Useful Idiots who vote for the Globalists.  Now that they can create votes, the Useful Idiots may not be so useful.  Maslo's hierarchy of needs has to come back into play at some point and for that to happen, unfortunately we will be forced to suffer first.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 19, 2022, 04:25:42 AM
Peppermint Patty is getting increasingly worse as she has to tell more lies.  The other day she said there was no proof that COVID didn't effect kids as badly as older folks.  She really had the "balls" to say that.   ::)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 19, 2022, 04:56:23 AM
Peppermint Patty is getting increasingly worse as she has to tell more lies.  The other day she said there was no proof that COVID didn't effect kids as badly as older folks.  She really had the "balls" to say that.   ::)

What she is probably talking about is the new study that came out saying that kids get infected just as much as adults, BUT, and this is a very big but, they are still way less likely to show any symptoms at all.  What this has to mean is simply testing.  Everybody is testing their kids now and nobody was in 2020.  If kids have no symptoms, we have no clue they got sick and no case is counted.  Now, every positive test is counted as a “case”.  This artificially skews the data implying the virus has mutated to attack children more but that may not be the truth at all.

I have not read the actual study, I’m making assumptions here. Things like they didn’t control for testing or symptoms and use the new incorrect definition of “case”.  But it wouldn’t surprise me at all for the CDC, the Biden administration, Psaki, and the cult covidians to all misconstrue that study to justify more vaccines for kids and continued masking the poor little things.

Don’t get me wrong I’m not defending her.  The defining feature of covid has always been that it’s a threat primarily to the old and those with comorbidities and that hasn’t changed.  They’re still pushing the nonsense that toddlers need to wear masks and get jabbed to prevent them from killing grandma and there is still no real evidence that I’m aware of that asymtomatic children are transmitting the virus.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 19, 2022, 05:18:57 AM
These people are criminals and need to be eradicated like the vermin they are.  Eradicated with extreme prejudice.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Old Crow on March 19, 2022, 09:00:50 AM
I've often wondered if Peppermint Pattie really believes the shit she's slinging out.  I've seen her get testy with some reporters and something in the back of my head says she really doesn't believe the crap.  Wonder how she sleeps at night and how much longer she's going to last where she is.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 19, 2022, 09:14:29 AM
I miss McEnany.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 19, 2022, 09:16:10 AM
Really good background on Ukraine and Russia.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 19, 2022, 09:21:45 AM
I've often wondered if Peppermint Pattie really believes the shit she's slinging out.  I've seen her get testy with some reporters and something in the back of my head says she really doesn't believe the crap.  Wonder how she sleeps at night and how much longer she's going to last where she is.

I thinks she's a true believer. She gets testy because she's mad that they aren't true believers like she is.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 19, 2022, 09:46:16 AM
I thinks she's a true believer. She gets testy because she's mad that they aren't true believers like she is.

Maybe it’s both.  The cognitive dissonance of the left must make it really hard to live within their own minds.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 19, 2022, 09:52:56 AM
I've often wondered if Peppermint Pattie really believes the shit she's slinging out.  I've seen her get testy with some reporters and something in the back of my head says she really doesn't believe the crap.  Wonder how she sleeps at night and how much longer she's going to last where she is.
Pretty sure Peppermint "Pinocchio" Patty knows exactly what she is doing. She is the designated spin master of the administration.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 19, 2022, 04:15:14 PM
Pretty sure Peppermint "Pinocchio" Patty knows exactly what she is doing. She is the designated spin master of the administration.

The real problem is the Useful Idiots believe her and parrot her lies just like they do with CNN, NBC, CBS,  ABC, MSNBC, etc. It's maddening!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 19, 2022, 04:16:39 PM
I thinks she's a true believer. She gets testy because she's mad that they aren't true believers like she is.

I'm not so sure.  I think she's just another Dem operative Apparachik.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on March 20, 2022, 06:39:34 AM
I'm not so sure.  I think she's just another Dem operative Apparachik.
I'm sure that she's a very well paid attention whore.  But certainly not a chick.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on March 20, 2022, 06:40:44 AM
The real problem is the Useful Idiots believe her and parrot her lies just like they do with CNN, NBC, CBS,  ABC, MSNBC, etc. It's maddening!

They don't believe her bullshit.

They do what they are told by their masters.

Far be it for a liberal to actually think. That's apostasy.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 20, 2022, 09:15:44 AM
I believe in looking at ALL sides.  No censorship whatsoever, not in the public square and not in my own mind.  So here is an opinion piece out of Nigeria and I will question his reasoning.

https://www.thecable.ng/ukraine-is-zelensky-a-hero-or-is-he-deluded/amp

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…the bitter truth is that all that President Volodymyr Zelensky has to do to stop the relentless slaughter of his people is to state clearly and categorically that Ukraine will never join NATO, that Ukraine will never allow foreign military bases on her soil and that Ukraine will maintain her neutrality like Sweden and Finland.

He also has to allow the Russian-speaking people of Donetsk and Eastern Ukraine to exercise their right of self-determination and either form their own independent country or become part of Russia. Finally, he has to renounce Ukraine’s claim to Crimea and accept the fact that this strategically-placed seaport and region is now, and will always be part and parcel of Russia.

Instead of offering these guarantees and taking these steps, he is giving fine speeches to western parliaments whilst his people are being slaughtered and butchered in their churches, offices, homes and houses and whilst his villages, towns and cities are being bombed, burnt, bombarded and utterly destroyed.

My response to that is, do we know Russia will stop if Zelensky does these things?  I hardly think so.  Putin has made it clear that he intends to absorb all of Ukraine, and “kill all the Nazis”, and has already gone back on negotiated humanitarian corridor agreements, and even if Zelensky agrees to all of this, one of Russia’s points is that past NATO related promises have been broken by the west, why would Putin accept more promises?


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I am constrained to ask, what type of man is this? Is he delusional or does he just pretend to be? I cannot possibly describe him as a hero.

I say this because a hero helps his people, does what is in their best interest and does all that is reasonable and necessary to guarantee their comfort, well-being, safety and security.

A hero does not goad and provoke the Russian bear or spit in its face in a reckless and dangerous display of open defiance and contempt.

Well maybe he is doing what’s in their best interest.  They don’t want to be ruled by Russia.  And open defiance is arguably the best response to an illegitimate invader.  To do otherwise shows weakness.  Zelensky is doing the right thing IF his people want it, and have the same defiant will that he does.  From all I see they do, the ones around Kyiv in the west anyway.  On the other hand, “all I see” is likely war propaganda.  I’m sure there are civilians in Kyiv that hate him and want to give up to stop the bombing and they are not being interviewed and put online.  I have to keep an open mind about that.


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All this could have been avoided if her president had displayed a little humility and restraint from the outset and if he had he not opted to dance to the tune of Joe Biden, Boris Johnson, Emmanuel Macron and all his other western friends who later deserted him.

Not sure I disagree with the bold part. Russia seems put out about the corrupt ties between Biden etc. and Ukraine. I’ve heard some supporters of Russia claim Russia is fighting against the whole global fascist, Big Tech, woke, great reset thing happening in the west.  While that may be true, it doesn’t mean I think Putin and his form of corrupt oligarchy should win that fight. They’re no better and in fact are just the same or worse.  It is not the case that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I don’t pretend to have any clue what we should do about this.  Is Putin a dangerous Hitler that needs to be stopped whatever it takes, and the U.S. needs to get directly involved?  Does that risk all out nuclear war?  Does the U.S. need to remain neutral and let Ukraine deal with it on their own?  Will that encourage Putin to continue west and attack NATO nations?  Then triggering us getting involved anyway?

Are we hurting ourselves more than Russia with economic sanctions?  Will economic sanctions cause Russia to depose Putin or Putin to cave, or will they just hurt the west more and drive Russia to become self sufficient and friendlier with China?  Then China will invade Taiwan, and we will end up fighting both Russia and China at the same time.

I have no idea if we should close the Ukrainian airspace like Zelensky wants or if we should send the fighter jets in.  I do know for certain that Biden shutting down our energy self reliance is the WRONG thing no matter what.  That’s about all I know for certain other than Biden/Harris is the absolute worst possible administration at this time. 

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on March 20, 2022, 07:38:30 PM
Ultimately we are hurting ourselves because we have a weak beta boy president with dementia.  The loss of US leadership did not come because EU leaders didn't like Donald Trump, it came because Biden is afraid. 

Should we risk nuclear war?  Yes, but then I believe there is no chance Putin is so stupid as to destroy the world in a temper tantrum, he thinks far too highly of himself.  If he uses even a single tactical nuclear weapon, he loses Ukraine because too much will be contaminated and that contamination will be carried on air currents back into Russia.  Plus, the entire world will be turned against him and he will fully be a pariah.  I don't think even China could stand with him.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on March 21, 2022, 05:57:52 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/kOsq6Cc.gif)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 22, 2022, 02:29:48 PM
Hopeful?

https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/03/22/russias-invasion-of-ukraine-reaches-its-culmination-point-and-zelensky-plays-hardball-in-the-peace-negotiations-n539426
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 22, 2022, 05:30:30 PM
On the other hand…..


Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 22, 2022, 07:07:42 PM
President Trump says Biden is destroying America and may destroy the world.

 :'(

https://conservativebrief.com/trump-8-61301/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 23, 2022, 03:44:53 AM
President Trump says Biden is destroying America and may destroy the world.

 :'(

https://conservativebrief.com/trump-8-61301/ (https://conservativebrief.com/trump-8-61301/)

Bongino had Trump on yesterday.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on March 23, 2022, 04:44:29 AM
President Trump says Biden is destroying America and may destroy the world.

 :'(

https://conservativebrief.com/trump-8-61301/

Biden wants it that way. Then he can help usher in a New World Order.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2022, 05:30:55 AM
Biden wants it that way. Thenche can help usher is a New World Order.

Burn it all down for the masses so they MUST rely on a Marxist, controlling, soul crushing government to survive.  The ELITE will have all the power, money, comforts, etc. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on March 23, 2022, 08:05:37 AM
Burn it all down for the masses so they MUST rely on a Marxist, controlling, soul crushing government to survive.  The ELITE will have all the power, money, comforts, etc.
That’s precisely how fascism and Marxism occurred, after their populations were decimated and beat down after WWI in Germany and in Russia, both post WWI and post WWII. 

Destroy the population, and offer a totalitarian governmental solution. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 23, 2022, 09:47:41 AM
That’s precisely how fascism and Marxism occurred, after their populations were decimated and beat down after WWI in Germany and in Russia, both post WWI and post WWII. 

Destroy the population, and offer a totalitarian governmental solution. Wash, rinse, repeat.

And that is what Putin is doing in Ukraine.  That guy Candace interviewed said so. We think Russia is a bumbling mess but actually they’re being very deliberate, slowly circling to cut off cities from supplies to starve them out and target civilians with rockets until there is nothing left.

Is it true Putin thought he could take Ukraine in one day and is now stupidly surprised they’re resisting?  Or did he plan it to be like this all along?  Like the Art of War, let your enemy think you are weak when you are strong and Vice versa.

I have no idea what to believe.  Except it’s true Putin wants to destroy Ukraine so he can implement his totalitarianism there.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on March 23, 2022, 01:58:47 PM
Except it’s true Putin wants to destroy Ukraine so he can implement his totalitarianism there.

If Ukraine is destroyed, who will rule over?  My take is all the women are leaving and the men are fighting.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 23, 2022, 02:01:27 PM
If Ukraine is destroyed, who will rule over?  My take is all the women are leaving and the men are fighting.

Putin doesn't care if he kills all of them. In fact that's his stated objective. It's literal genocide. Kill all the "Nazis" he says, meaning, the Ukrainians who support Zelensky. He wants the whole country to belong to the Russian speaking separatists.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 26, 2022, 05:45:14 AM
Kremlin releases photo evidence proving Defense Minister Shoigu is alive and well.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 26, 2022, 05:50:35 AM
From a FB friend, information not verified, too lazy to research.

Accountant geeky ….
WWI began 7-28-1914   7+28+19+14=68
WWII began 9-1-1939   9+1+19+39= 68
Ukrainian/Russian war began 2-24-2022   2+24+20+22=68
What a coincidence……
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 26, 2022, 07:02:04 AM
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/03/24/biden-linked-company-partnered-with-ukraine-biolabs/

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EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden Bio Firm Partnered With Ukrainian Researchers ‘Isolating Deadly Pathogens’ Using Funds From Obama’s Defense Department.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 26, 2022, 07:03:09 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10652127/Hunter-Biden-helped-secure-millions-funding-military-biotech-research-program-Ukraine.html

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EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden DID help secure millions in funding for US contractor in Ukraine specializing in deadly pathogen research, laptop emails reveal, raising more questions about the disgraced son of then vice president
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 26, 2022, 09:31:30 AM
Excellent take on what’s going on, especially Trump at the very end.  Nails it.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 27, 2022, 04:28:00 AM
I knew Biden going over there would be a disaster.  Well, he’s a disaster everywhere.  Every time he opens his mouth.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on March 27, 2022, 04:38:52 AM
Biden is a complete IDIOT.  Even before the Dementia.  He's always been an utter fool even in his "prime". I'm embarrassed we've sunk this far as a country.  We are no longer the USA.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on March 27, 2022, 04:51:21 AM
Biden is a complete IDIOT.  Even before the Dementia.  He's always been an utter fool even in his "prime". I'm embarrassed we've sunk this far as a country.  We are no longer the USA.

No we are not. Trump brought us back for four years.  I don’t know if he can do it again, or if we will be a smoking crater by 2024.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 27, 2022, 05:05:11 AM
Trump appeared just up the road from me last night. Spoke for nearly two hours. He's pushing hard for his candidates here in Georgia.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on March 28, 2022, 04:17:58 AM
Biden is a complete IDIOT.  Even before the Dementia.  He's always been an utter fool even in his "prime". I'm embarrassed we've sunk this far as a country.  We are no longer the USA.

Dementia plus Komprot are a dangerous combination. 100%, Biden sold himself to China through Hunter. He is “the big guy”.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 05, 2022, 07:05:51 AM
There are reports that Russia is laying mines in the Black Sea outside of Bulgaria and if true this can be considered an aggression against NATO and could elicit a response.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 05, 2022, 07:53:13 AM
There are reports that Russia is laying mines in the Black Sea outside of Bulgaria and if true this can be considered an aggression against NATO and could elicit a response.

response:  a stern warning and a wagged finger...

or maybe the clown will fire off a shotgun...

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on April 05, 2022, 08:00:02 AM
I don't believe anything from this war.

Biden and Co have an agenda (supported by big tech and the MSM), Putin has an agenda, and Ukraine has an agenda.

Be suspect of anything from these three sources.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 05, 2022, 08:02:33 AM
...
Be suspect of anything from these three sources.

especially filtered through the "media"

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 05, 2022, 08:22:33 AM
Oh I don’t take any of these reports as gospel.  But here is a good broad picture of the whole enchilada:




Edited to put the YouTube brackets in because I’ve found if you watch it here instead of on YouTube, they don’t play the ads. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on April 05, 2022, 10:30:44 AM
Biden is a complete IDIOT.  Even before the Dementia.  He's always been an utter fool even in his "prime". I'm embarrassed we've sunk this far as a country.  We are no longer the USA.

The senile imposter is the epitome of idiocracy
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 16, 2022, 06:44:00 PM
What do you people think Trump would be doing if he were in the White House right now?  I know, Putin never would have invaded Ukraine.  But suppose in an alternative universe he did and we could switch out Biden for Trump right now.  What exactly would happen?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on April 16, 2022, 07:14:24 PM
Trump would express his disapproval of Putin’s actions and refuse to send Americans to Ukraine to die.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 24, 2022, 06:38:21 PM
Trump would express his disapproval of Putin’s actions and refuse to send Americans to Ukraine to die.

From the horse’s mouth. God I miss him.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on April 25, 2022, 01:31:22 AM
Trump would express his disapproval of Putin’s actions and refuse to send Americans to Ukraine to die.

That's why the MIC wanted Trump OUT!
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 25, 2022, 04:17:35 AM
Maybe off topic, I seem to be seeing a lot of commercials for new drugs. Anyone else notice that?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 25, 2022, 04:28:22 AM
That's why the MIC wanted Trump OUT!
Now the MIC gets to make money through our proxy war with Russia via Ukraine. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on April 25, 2022, 04:50:52 AM
Trump would express his disapproval of Putin’s actions and refuse to send Americans to Ukraine to die.

Isn’t that exactly what Biden is doing?  Would Trump have done that if he were president in 1941?

We have had a failing of leadership in foreign policy for the past 15 or so years.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2022, 05:11:20 AM
Isn’t that exactly what Biden is doing?

  Biden is waging a proxy war right now by sending billions of our dollars to Ukraine, and using our military to train Ukrainian military.  And while Biden has slipped up and said he would send our troops into Ukraine, only to have his handlers walk it back, others in his administration keep alluding to sending troops in. 

  Would Trump have done that if he were president in 1941?

 Trump was not president in 1941.

We have had a failing of leadership in foreign policy for the past 15 or so years.

  Under BHO our foreign policy switched to appeasement and the US became the laughing stock of the world as BHO was bowing to tyrants and praising dictators.  BHO's administration destabilized countries and governments (example: Libya) and fueled several conflicts.

  Trump came along and took a stronger stance on foreign policy, such as requiring NATO members to pay up and stop using the US to fund their defense.  Trump wanted out of Afghanistan but the neocons serving the MIC refused.  Those same neocons beat the drum loudly to get us into more wars, and again Trump refused.  The democrat party flipped from being the party of peace to the party demanding we go to every war that cropped up.   Trump used the big stick method of Teddy Roosevelt and it worked.

 Along comes FJB who has now sunk our foreign policy to even lower than his mentor BHO, and we haven't hit bottom yet.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 25, 2022, 05:25:41 AM
Maybe off topic, I seem to be seeing a lot of commercials for new drugs. Anyone else notice that?

I don’t watch TV and I haven’t noticed more drugs in the YouTube ads. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 25, 2022, 05:33:39 AM
Isn’t that exactly what Biden is doing?  Would Trump have done that if he were president in 1941?

We have had a failing of leadership in foreign policy for the past 15 or so years.

It was an unfair hypothetical question because Trump wouldn’t have faced this situation.  His stance while in charge prevented Putin from acting.

You can’t define it by the words he says.  He and Biden could say the exact same words and the effects would be totally different. 

It’s like how a parent can correct misbehaving children with just a look, or a warning grunt.  But other parents cannot because they have no air of authority. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2022, 05:39:26 AM
Biden is currently pouring our tax dollars into this money pit of Ukraine.  One has to wonder if he's getting his 10%.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on April 25, 2022, 05:45:49 AM
Biden is currently pouring our tax dollars into this money pit of Ukraine.  One has to wonder if he's getting his 10%.

Keeping it in the family, like any made guy.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on April 25, 2022, 07:27:40 AM
Isn’t that exactly what Biden is doing?  Would Trump have done that if he were president in 1941?

We have had a failing of leadership in foreign policy for the past 15 or so years.

Ever since Putin went into Ukraine, Biden and his globohomo handlers have been salivating and hinting about escalating the conflict and getting involved under cover of “defending Ukraine” when what they really want is a major distraction from their money-laundering and corruption there and elsewhere, and a headline- and attention-sucking war to make billions for themselves from.

 It’s clear that all that’s stopping them is public opinion from a war- and pandemic-weary world that wants countries to mind their own affairs. I also suspect globohomo infighting and fear of further exposure.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 25, 2022, 07:33:59 AM
Biden is currently pouring our tax dollars into this money pit of Ukraine.  One has to wonder if he's getting his 10%.
Paying back Ukraine or paying off the blackmail threat, take your pick.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2022, 07:49:09 AM
Paying back Ukraine or paying off the blackmail threat, take your pick.

  Ukraine is the black hole of money laundering.  This is why Hunter Biden was there, as well as the sons of many prominent politicians.  Trump knew about this, and when he brought it to light, the impeachment started.

  Now Biden is dumping in billions, and it's going through the wash cycle.  Many in the UniParty stand to profit with their daisy fresh clean money coming back.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on April 25, 2022, 07:52:45 AM
What Gas company was Hunter working for, again?  And maybe still works.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 25, 2022, 07:53:59 AM
Biden is currently pouring our tax dollars into this money pit of Ukraine.  One has to wonder if he's getting his 10%.

I don’t actually mind giving Ukraine money and weapons, or more accurately, I wouldn’t, if the federal government didn’t waste so much.  For example, five federal agencies in two years spent $3.1 billion giving employees paid administrative leave instead of firing them when caught doing things like patronizing prostitutes while on duty. 

As much as I long to help stop Putin, as it stands right now we can’t afford to support Ukraine.  Not only do we not have the money, keep in mind that weapons given Ukraine deplete our own stockpile and we do not have the workforce or production capacity to quickly replenish them.  We have already given them one third of our javelin anti-tank missiles!  Whether Ukraine falls or not, we might have to face Russia and/or China eventually.  It’s insane to bankrupt ourselves both financially and militarily at this point in time, making us that much weaker and emboldening our enemies possibly even causing them to aggress further: Taiwan, Moldova, etc.

There is a real risk this could morph into a global conflict requiring us to defend our own homeland.  We should be shutting down all funding of spotted salamanders and gender studies, cutting the federal bureaucracy by 90%, and directing most of the budget to building our own defense capabilities including domestic manufacturing, funding social security and Medicare, securing our southern border, gaining energy independence, and NOTHING MORE.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on April 25, 2022, 07:57:50 AM
Meanwhile, our real enemy, China, gets to do whatever they want, worldwide, for resources like energy and critical minerals while we turn a blind eye.  The MEDIA says nothing.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on April 25, 2022, 08:14:07 AM
Isn’t that exactly what Biden is doing?  Would Trump have done that if he were president in 1941?


Your Trump derangement is showing again (still)...
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2022, 08:49:13 AM
More money laundering:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1519686562291896321
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 28, 2022, 09:16:37 AM
More money laundering:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1519686562291896321 (https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1519686562291896321)
Blackmail is hell
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 28, 2022, 11:12:12 AM
More money laundering:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1519686562291896321


Okay millions I wasn’t having too big a problem with.  BILLIONS?

WHAT ABPUT OUR OWN FUCKING WALL BIDEN???
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2022, 11:17:20 AM

Okay millions I wasn’t having too big a problem with.  BILLIONS?

WHAT ABPUT OUR OWN FUCKING WALL BIDEN???

The Big Guy and his corrupt family can’t make money on a border wall, unless it’s in a foreign country using our money.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 28, 2022, 06:17:40 PM
Perhaps he's being black mailed by Zelensky.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2022, 06:27:17 PM
Perhaps he's being black mailed by Zelensky.

I don’t think so. 

War is big business.  The MIC was severely pissed off the last administration wouldn’t get us into a war.  They were pissed off FJB cut off their Afghanistan money machine, but hey, FJB couldn’t make money off of Afghanistan. 

 Ukraine has been a corrupt money laundering country for years, hence why so many politicians and their families do “business” there. 

 Ukraine will feed the MIC for years to come.  The money FJB wants for Ukraine will get laundered and end up in his and his family bank accounts, with plenty to go around for his political buddies. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on April 29, 2022, 03:49:06 AM
I don’t think so. 

War is big business.  The MIC was severely pissed off the last administration wouldn’t get us into a war.  They were pissed off FJB cut off their Afghanistan money machine, but hey, FJB couldn’t make money off of Afghanistan. 

 Ukraine has been a corrupt money laundering country for years, hence why so many politicians and their families do “business” there. 

 Ukraine will feed the MIC for years to come.  The money FJB wants for Ukraine will get laundered and end up in his and his family bank accounts, with plenty to go around for his political buddies.

This crap needs to stop, even if by extreme, of course, legal, means.   ::)

I never thought the USA would become a South American, corrupt dictatorship.  What happened to Truth, Justice and the America Way?  I actually grew up believing that the U.S. was the best country in the world and I couldn't imagine being born anywhere else.  Yes, there has always been corruption, but NOTHING like today and practically out in the open. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on April 29, 2022, 05:33:32 AM
(https://blazingcatfur.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/biden-ukraine-war.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 29, 2022, 05:48:45 AM
I don’t think so. 

War is big business.  The MIC was severely pissed off the last administration wouldn’t get us into a war.  They were pissed off FJB cut off their Afghanistan money machine, but hey, FJB couldn’t make money off of Afghanistan. 

 Ukraine has been a corrupt money laundering country for years, hence why so many politicians and their families do “business” there. 

 Ukraine will feed the MIC for years to come.  The money FJB wants for Ukraine will get laundered and end up in his and his family bank accounts, with plenty to go around for his political buddies.

They are BADLY miscalculating.  This isn’t going to be a protracted geographically limited war in the Mideast or Far East that could provide them with years of profit while the rest of the world chugs merrily along.  Ukraine and Russia together produce almost a quarter of the world’s wheat with Ukraine’s production already cut by 20% so far because of the war.  If Russia takes Odessa, which they are already bombing, Ukraine will lose its last export port. Countries that depend on its grain will begin to starve and:

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“Hunger in less developed countries readily leads to social unrest, bread riots, and revolutions,” the CAPI report says. “The terrible irony is that the food security issues — already in existence but further sparked by the Ukrainian invasion — could spark further secondary conflicts in the Middle East, North Africa, and elsewhere

Meanwhile the U.S. has converted over half of its farmland in 1981 from wheat to corn just to produce ethanol as mandated by our insane government. Even if we suddenly reversed this policy, as we should forthwith but we won’t, it would take years to ramp up production and we still haven’t solved our own internal logistics and labor problems caused by two years of lockdowns.

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It’s becoming more apparent by the day that this unfolding disaster has joined the global pandemic as defining moments in modern human history. The world is staring at serious grain supply shocks for which there is no easy remedy. The only certainty is that the situation will get much, much worse if Putin wins because it will cause further instability.

The path to increased production elsewhere to make up for what is being lost in Ukraine and withheld by Russia is a long one that is fraught with complications. It takes time to push into production arable land that has been idled (usually because it’s environmentally fragile or not very productive) or lands that are not yet developed.

https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/comment/comment-big-little-decisions-are-needed-to-address-growing-global-food-insecurity/

Now, all of that doesn’t even address issues of Finland, NATO, Transnistria, etc.  As long a the U.S. appears weak (Biden et al) Putin is going to continue.  I do NOT feel confident Putin isn’t crazy enough to engage a NATO nation.  Ukraine is now firing missiles inside Russian territory and attacking fuel and ammo depots.  Although Ukraine is not a NATO nation, Putin equates Ukraine with the NATO threat and now Russian soil is under attack.  There is a real danger this war will spread. The first inch of NATO land touched and we’re on!  How long will the U.S. stay out of the European conflagration this time, and how long will everyone refrain from going nuclear?

The MIC is playing with fire.  There were two ways to avoid this.  Keep Trump in the WH and Putin never would have dared.  Or, Zelensky let Putin have Ukraine from the start and it will become Russian but the infrastructure and food production will remain intact instead of the devastation we see now.  The problem is that second option never existed because of the will of the Ukrainian people who understandably didn’t accept Putin’s dictatorship.  I’d have fought him to the death too.

So here we are, heading towards a global disaster that will make the first and second world wars look like a picnic in the park.  The money the MIC generates for themselves and their corrupt politicians will do them little good as they die in the nuclear winter.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on April 29, 2022, 05:59:04 AM
So here we are, heading towards a global disaster that will make the first and second world wars look like a picnic in the park.  The money the MIC generates for themselves and their corrupt politicians will do them little good as they die in the nuclear winter.

Maybe it will finally bring about the REAL reset that is needed in the world to re-align our priorities with reality and what it actually important in life.  NOT Man-Made Climate Change, Racism, LGBTqxyz, Women's "Rights", Political Correctness, Hate Speech, Speech Derangement, etc.  Bring it on.  I'll go get my AR. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 29, 2022, 05:43:06 PM
I could have sworn Brand hated Trump.  But here he uses this interview to draw a comparison between modern international relations and primitive basic interactions and says Trump brings a brutal simplicity to it. This is a brilliant take on Trump and what’s going on with Russia.  I’ll spoil the end for you: “No one has a right to condemn Trump unless they’re coming from a place of integrity and in the whole political landscape I don’t see it anywhere.”

Brand’s reaction to Trump and Kim Jong Un’s dick measuring contest is hilarious.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 04:14:00 AM

…..

Now, all of that doesn’t even address issues of Finland, NATO, Transnistria, etc.  As long a the U.S. appears weak (Biden et al) Putin is going to continue.

…..


Here we go!

I expected this, I just didn’t expect it so soon. 



Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 04:37:02 AM
Not to worry.  MSNBC assures me this will not escalate into all out nuclear war.  Whew!  Good thing I trust MSNBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUjI3cqVnX4

Not gonna do them the favor of putting the YouTube code around it.  I hate to get you to give them clicks, just take my word for it.  The guy says Putin isn’t crazy enough to deploy nukes because he knows that will be mutually assured destruction.  All Putin’s talk of nukes is just saber rattling.  Uh huh.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: bflynn on April 30, 2022, 04:05:14 PM
Not to worry.  MSNBC assures me this will not escalate into all out nuclear war.  Whew!  Good thing I trust MSNBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUjI3cqVnX4

Not gonna do them the favor of putting the YouTube code around it.  I hate to get you to give them clicks, just take my word for it.  The guy says Putin isn’t crazy enough to deploy nukes because he knows that will be mutually assured destruction.  All Putin’s talk of nukes is just saber rattling.  Uh huh.

The only way this escalates to nuclear war is if Putin believes he can win it.  Right now, spineless US leadership is making that more likely by try to calm down the situation, not less.  A nuclear war will start because of US weakness and right now we have that in spades. 

To prevent it, Putin needs to be reminded clearly and forcefully that the US policy on nuclear weapons is that they are unacceptable and we will respond to their use with nuclear weapons.  If that means destroying the entire world, including Russia and having Putin die in a nuclear fireball, then that is what he will force on us.  Our position should be laid out in such uncertain terms that there is no way Putin would say "Nah, they don't really mean it".  Right now, he's thinking Biden doesn't have the balls to order a strike. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
The only way this escalates to nuclear war is if Putin believes he can win it.  Right now, spineless US leadership is making that more likely by try to calm down the situation, not less.  A nuclear war will start because of US weakness and right now we have that in spades. 

To prevent it, Putin needs to be reminded clearly and forcefully that the US policy on nuclear weapons is that they are unacceptable and we will respond to their use with nuclear weapons.  If that means destroying the entire world, including Russia and having Putin die in a nuclear fireball, then that is what he will force on us.  Our position should be laid out in such uncertain terms that there is no way Putin would say "Nah, they don't really mean it".  Right now, he's thinking Biden doesn't have the balls to order a strike.

Excellent summary.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 01, 2022, 10:01:39 AM
Protecting her families business interest.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pelosi-makes-surprise-visit-to-kiev-meets-with-zelensky/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 01, 2022, 10:38:52 AM
Protecting her families business interest.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pelosi-makes-surprise-visit-to-kiev-meets-with-zelensky/ (https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pelosi-makes-surprise-visit-to-kiev-meets-with-zelensky/)
Getting tips on how to silence your political opponents and shut down media you don't like.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 01, 2022, 10:51:08 AM
Getting tips on how to silence your political opponents and shut down media you don't like.

  Look soon for a massive spending bill, 2000+ pages long and will have to be voted on immediately (do not read), all for supporting Ukraine. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on May 01, 2022, 10:51:31 AM
Getting tips on how to silence your political opponents and shut down media you don't like.

She could have stayed here and talked to the Clinton's for that.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 01, 2022, 10:52:27 AM
Getting tips on how to silence your political opponents and shut down media you don't like.

Who is giving tip to who?  Whom?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 01, 2022, 10:57:28 AM
Protecting her families business interest.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pelosi-makes-surprise-visit-to-kiev-meets-with-zelensky/

That is sickening. 

Seriously, seeing those two together is causing me so much cognitive dissonance.  🤮  When the hell is that bitch going to retire!?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on May 01, 2022, 12:22:17 PM
  Look soon for a massive spending bill, 2000+ pages long and will have to be voted on immediately (do not read), all for supporting Ukraine.
Well, that will be the title so it can be sold to the proletariat.  Maybe 5 percent for Ukraine.  The rest for promoting their socialist agenda and buying votes here at home
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 01, 2022, 12:52:24 PM
Well, that will be the title so it can be sold to the proletariat.  Maybe 5 percent for Ukraine.  The rest for promoting their socialist agenda and buying votes here at home

Just like the billions FJB has already spent on Ukraine, most of that money never leaves the US, and what does finds its way back here. 

Follow. The. Money.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 01, 2022, 01:30:34 PM
Just like the billions FJB has already spent on Ukraine, most of that money never leaves the US, and what does finds its way back here. 

Follow. The. Money.

So how does that work?  We give money to Ukraine, Ukraine uses it to buy weapons and ammo from U.S. manufacturers, and the manufacturers give kickbacks to the politicians? - who gave the money to Ukraine in the first place? 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 01, 2022, 01:44:17 PM
So how does that work?  We give money to Ukraine, Ukraine uses it to buy weapons and ammo from U.S. manufacturers, and the manufacturers give kickbacks to the politicians? - who gave the money to Ukraine in the first place?

There’s not just one grift, there are many. 

You are correct, on the weapons that money stays here to feed the MIC, who in turn pay off politicians.

Another grift is say, $1 million for Ukraine aid.  Someone must administer that “aid” so a contractor is set up, usually in the US. Funds are transferred to the contractor, and maybe 10% makes it to Ukraine.  The contractor then pays off the politicians. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. 

Another grift is the contractor is on Ukraine, or another shithole.  Money goes in, a few pennies go out and the rest makes it back to the US. 

The feeding frenzy is on, and will keep going.  There is profit in war, and you and I are paying for it.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 01, 2022, 03:03:43 PM
There’s not just one grift, there are many. 

You are correct, on the weapons that money stays here to feed the MIC, who in turn pay off politicians.

Another grift is say, $1 million for Ukraine aid.  Someone must administer that “aid” so a contractor is set up, usually in the US. Funds are transferred to the contractor, and maybe 10% makes it to Ukraine.  The contractor then pays off the politicians. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. 

Another grift is the contractor is on Ukraine, or another shithole.  Money goes in, a few pennies go out and the rest makes it back to the US. 

The feeding frenzy is on, and will keep going.  There is profit in war, and you and I are paying for it.

Putin started it.  He wouldn’t have if Trump were in the WH.  I blame all who voted for Biden and those who rigged the election.

On top of the war spending, we have inflation, and now, a declining GDP!

Instead of sending all this money to Ukraine, let’s drop 2 big nukes.  One on Moscow, and one on DC.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on May 01, 2022, 05:45:51 PM
We need to disband the politician (Royalty) MIC establishment. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on May 01, 2022, 05:46:35 PM
There’s not just one grift, there are many. 

You are correct, on the weapons that money stays here to feed the MIC, who in turn pay off politicians.

Another grift is say, $1 million for Ukraine aid.  Someone must administer that “aid” so a contractor is set up, usually in the US. Funds are transferred to the contractor, and maybe 10% makes it to Ukraine.  The contractor then pays off the politicians. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. 

Another grift is the contractor is on Ukraine, or another shithole.  Money goes in, a few pennies go out and the rest makes it back to the US. 

The feeding frenzy is on, and will keep going.  There is profit in war, and you and I are paying for it.

Bingo.  Spot on.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: elwood blues on May 01, 2022, 06:24:57 PM
So how does that work?

There’s not just one grift, there are many. 

You are correct, on the weapons that money stays here to feed the MIC, who in turn pay off politicians.

"Hello Raytheon/General Dynamics/Lockheed.  This is Sen. Screwjob.  You need my vote on the appropriations bill that includes your hardware?  Sure, sure.  Just make a donation to my family trust that my son is running, and if the donation is big enough, I'll make sure the bill gets passed."

A business being a business bakes the costs into the price of the goods, which is paid for by you and me.
This is why toilet seats cost $700 and missiles cost millions of dollars.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 01, 2022, 06:28:37 PM
We need to disband the politician (Royalty) MIC establishment.

I don’t mind having a MIC.  We need to be the best armed nation on the planet with the best technology.  For-profit capitalism is how to get the best of anything.  And it provides jobs for Americans.

I do mind:

*corruption, grift, and wars without a clear goal to win, providing asymmetrical gain to the elite

*defending the borders of other countries while not defending our own

*have a military force under the command of the federal government while also attempting to disarm the citizenry

*purging the military of people with the “wrong” political views

To your comment, we need to disband the political establishment currently misusing our MIC. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 01, 2022, 07:13:45 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/ukraine-insulted-by-bidens-offer-of-33-billion-in-weapons-when-he-gave-the-taliban-86-billion
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 02, 2022, 05:55:50 AM
If (when?) we end up in a direct conflict with Russia and assuming we survive until 2024, how would DeSantis be as a wartime president?  Opinions?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: jb1842 on May 02, 2022, 06:03:17 AM
If (when?) we end up in a direct conflict with Russia and assuming we survive until 2024, how would DeSantis be as a wartime president?  Opinions?

I don't think we can predict how anybody will be during wartime. But I think he will rein in all the woke bullshit that is going on in the military, which is good. The military is not a social experiment. It is an organization meant to to protect our country by destroying and killing our enemies. You can't do that by lowering standards and allowing policies to change to appease certain people.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on May 02, 2022, 06:19:56 AM
I don't think we can predict how anybody will be during wartime. But I think he will rein in all the woke bullshit that is going on in the military, which is good. The military is not a social experiment. It is an organization meant to to protect our country by destroying and killing our enemies. You can't do that by lowering standards and allowing policies to change to appease certain people.

Exactly.  These "Woke" practices and policies destroy mission readiness, mission capability and unit cohesion.  You can't have everyone running around only concerned with their personal feelings, looks and beliefs.  They wear a UNIform for a reason and it's not so they can exhibit their personal pathologies. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on May 02, 2022, 01:58:34 PM
I don’t mind having a MIC.  We need to be the best armed nation on the planet with the best technology.  For-profit capitalism is how to get the best of anything.  And it provides jobs for Americans.

I do mind:

*corruption, grift, and wars without a clear goal to win, providing asymmetrical gain to the elite

*defending the borders of other countries while not defending our own

*have a military force under the command of the federal government while also attempting to disarm the citizenry

*purging the military of people with the “wrong” political views

To your comment, we need to disband the political establishment currently misusing our MIC.
I too don’t mind having a MIC as a necessary component of keeping the US safe. I’d rather have a Cold War than what we have now - stupid little shooting wars where ROEs require a call to a JAG officer before killing a bad guy , and our soldiers are still waking down streets in Shitholistan getting knocked off by goatfucker snipers. Cold wars don’t usually involve shooting.

We are in this place because GHW Bush invoked the “Peace Dividend,” enabling Bill Clinton spend the dividend and shrink the MIC to the point that the MIC needs these little shooting wars where Americans die.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 02, 2022, 02:02:56 PM

We are in this place because GHW Bush invoked the “Peace Dividend,” ...

Really?  I thought the "Peace Dividend" was something the democrats tried to use.

For sure and for certain, the democrats wanted to use all of the "Peace Dividend" (and more) to spend on more and more wasteful programs.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on May 02, 2022, 02:05:18 PM
Agree somewhat Stan, however, Korea and Vietnam involved shooting as well as others.  Still there was an order to the Cold War.   Not so with this crap.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on May 02, 2022, 06:06:38 PM
Really?  I thought the "Peace Dividend" was something the democrats tried to use.

For sure and for certain, the democrats wanted to use all of the "Peace Dividend" (and more) to spend on more and more wasteful programs.
Yep.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_dividend#:~:text=%20Peace%20dividend%20was%20a%20political%20slogan%20popularized,as%20Britain%27s%201990%20Options%20for%20Change%20defence%20review.

But what’s not stated is who chose to spend the peace dividend. It gave Bill Clinton and the democrats an open checkbooks to meet their two lifelong goals - tear down the U.S. military, and build the welfare state.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on May 02, 2022, 06:13:00 PM
Agree somewhat Stan, however, Korea and Vietnam involved shooting as well as others.  Still there was an order to the Cold War.   Not so with this crap.
Fair point. I was thinking about the binary US v USSR  Cold War - the one that had us doing duck and cover drills in grade school.  We did have the Bay of Pigs and a few other skirmishes, but by living Reagan’s muscular “Peace Through Strength” policy, we never got into an all-out shooting war with the other Superpower.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 02, 2022, 07:00:05 PM
Maybe the problem isn’t the MIC, it’s the MICC, military–industrial–congressional complex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–industrial_complex (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–industrial_complex)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 03, 2022, 04:53:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/SLDDcAE.gif)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Mr Pou on May 03, 2022, 05:06:40 AM
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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 09, 2022, 02:29:32 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSVtW89WYAIkUKk.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 10, 2022, 09:44:17 AM
You can hear the squealing coming from DC as they feed at the trough.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/democrats-boost-biden-ukraine-aid-plan-40b-84599765
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: texasag93 on May 10, 2022, 03:42:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/SLDDcAE.gif)

............odd functioning toilet.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Number7 on May 10, 2022, 04:09:38 PM
............odd functioning toilet.

You ought to see it run at SUPEONA SPEED
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 10, 2022, 06:46:36 PM
Gotta keep sending money so Zelensky doesn't release the evidence.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 11, 2022, 05:27:20 AM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1524326477424218116
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 11, 2022, 08:30:59 AM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1524409925086105600
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on May 11, 2022, 04:09:05 PM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1524409925086105600

That's the problem.   The trough.  And WE PAY FOR IT.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 13, 2022, 08:07:32 AM
If Rand Paul ever runs for president I'm voting for him. 

https://rumble.com/v14kmub-rand-paul-blocks-a-fast-track-of-the-40-billion-dollar-ukraine-aid-package.html
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 14, 2022, 10:24:54 AM
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/that-sinking-feeling/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 14, 2022, 10:25:37 AM
Sickening

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/mcconnell-and-susan-collins-visit-ukraine/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on May 16, 2022, 10:41:50 AM
Sickening

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/mcconnell-and-susan-collins-visit-ukraine/
The first comment encapsulated my entire thoughts on this visit:

“Well I see our “leaders” are visiting their favorite ATM machine again.”
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 17, 2022, 09:58:40 AM
Isn’t Ukraine enough?

https://rumble.com/v151817-biden-decides-to-get-the-usa-more-involved-in-the-civil-war-in-somalia-agai.html
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 17, 2022, 10:02:10 AM
Isn’t Ukraine enough?

https://rumble.com/v151817-biden-decides-to-get-the-usa-more-involved-in-the-civil-war-in-somalia-agai.html

   Follow. The. Money.


  Our treasury is being looted, and we watch it happen and nothing we can do to stop it.  Our elected representatives (except a few) are all happily on the payroll.   Ever wonder why someone invest millions of dollars to run for congress?     
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Rush on May 17, 2022, 10:06:03 AM
   Follow. The. Money.


  Our treasury is being looted, and we watch it happen and nothing we can do to stop it.  Our elected representatives (except a few) are all happily on the payroll.   Ever wonder why someone invest millions of dollars to run for congress?   

Because they altruistically want to improve the lives of their constituents?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on May 17, 2022, 10:35:34 AM
Because they altruistically want to improve the lives of their constituents?
Ha!  Good one!

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Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on May 22, 2022, 06:52:24 PM

https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2022/roll145.xml
 
 
 
Breitbart News defense reporter Kristina Wong broke down the spending for the Ukraine aid package, which includes $20 billion for the Department of Defense:

— $17 billion for U.S. military operations, including the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, and to replace U.S. military equipment sent to Ukraine;
— $1.8 billion in U.S. military equipment for Ukraine;
— $414 million for “research, development, test and evaluation” related to the Ukraine war;
— $15 million for U.S. troop pay related to the war; and
— $13.9 million for the Defense Health Program.

Roughly $20 billion was for Ukraine, the State Department, international organizations, and other agencies, including:
— $8.77 billion in economic assistance for Ukraine;
— $4.35 billion in humanitarian aid for Ukraine;
— $4 billion for foreign military financing program (run by the State Department);
— $900 million for the Administration for Children and Families for refugee and entrant assistance;
— $500 million for the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development;
— $400 million for the international narcotics control and law enforcement to combat human trafficking and collect evidence of war crimes;
— $350 million for the State Department’s Migration and Refugee Assistance;
— $190 million for the State Department for “Diplomatic Programs;
— $150 million for the Global Agriculture and Food Security Program;
— $110 million for the State Department for embassy security, construction, and maintenance;
— $100 million for the State Department for nonproliferation, anti-terrorism, de-mining and related programs;
— $67 million for the Justice Department;
— $54 million for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to carry out public health and disease detection related to Ukraine;
— $17 million for the United States Agency for International Development (USAID);
— $10 million for the State Department’s “Capital Investment Fund”;
— $4 million for the State Department’s Office of Inspector General;
— $2 million for “salaries and expenses” to provide regulatory and technical support; and
— $1 million for USAID’s Office of Inspector General.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 22, 2022, 07:04:53 PM
$8B would have built the wall.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on July 09, 2022, 11:20:15 AM
Just an unlimited money supply. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-sending-400-million-military-aid-ukraine-86468650

Follow. The. Money.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on July 09, 2022, 12:52:14 PM
Amazingly it seems no one is putting this together.  The money pit of Ukraine, selling our oil to China and other countries, the endless push to vaccinate.  The Biden Crime Family has their fingerprints all over this.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/biden-commits-another-400-million-taxpayer-dollars-ukraine/

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It is unknown how much more American taxpayer dollars will go to Ukraine as the war continues. One thing is certain, the American people has begun to feel as though Biden cares more for Ukraine than his own nation. Billions of dollars in aid continue to flow while Americans are still facing record inflation, high gas prices, food shortages and more.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 09, 2022, 02:00:29 PM
Just an unlimited money supply. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-sending-400-million-military-aid-ukraine-86468650 (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-sending-400-million-military-aid-ukraine-86468650)

Follow. The. Money.
That's how black mail works
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on July 09, 2022, 02:04:45 PM
That's how black mail works

I don’t think it’s much as blackmail, I see it as furthering the family business.  The Chinese oil sale has a company that Hunter is involved in, and we all know of Hunter’s business dealings in Ukraine. 

What does the family hold in Pfizer and Moderna?

At what point does Hunter become a billionaire?
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on July 09, 2022, 03:53:24 PM
These people should be held accountable by an honest, unbiased Media that doesn't constantly promote the Woke, Racist, Feminazi, LGBTqxz anti White male agenda.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 09, 2022, 04:38:42 PM
These people should be held accountable by an honest, unbiased Media that doesn't constantly promote the Woke, Racist, Feminazi, LGBTqxz anti White male agenda.

you crack me up.

Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 09, 2022, 04:46:47 PM
I don’t think it’s much as blackmail, I see it as furthering the family business.  The Chinese oil sale has a company that Hunter is involved in, and we all know of Hunter’s business dealings in Ukraine. 

What does the family hold in Pfizer and Moderna?

At what point does Hunter become a billionaire?
The blackmail part is Ukraine
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on July 09, 2022, 05:11:28 PM
you crack me up.

Lol. I Crack myself up.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: nddons on July 10, 2022, 10:15:51 AM
Just an unlimited money supply. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-sending-400-million-military-aid-ukraine-86468650

Follow. The. Money.
Soon we’ll be putting “advisers” in country. Because what could go wrong? 

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2022, 05:02:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vA1OanD.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on July 12, 2022, 06:21:29 PM
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biden-gives-1-7-billion-more-to-zelensky-to-pay-salaries-in-ukraine/
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 12, 2022, 07:46:01 PM
Remember how proud FJB was telling the world how he got the prosecutor fired?  We sure are paying for it now.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on July 13, 2022, 06:13:23 AM
I'm waiting to see when Hunter crosses over the threshold to become a billionaire.

With all the money pouring in to Ukraine, the oil money coming from the sell of oil to China, the chinese companies that produce equipment for green energy, his Russian business dealings and so on, the amount of money pouring in (and under the table, no taxes) he must be getting close.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Username on July 13, 2022, 06:34:38 AM
I'm waiting to see when Hunter crosses over the threshold to become a billionaire.

With all the money pouring in to Ukraine, the oil money coming from the sell of oil to China, the chinese companies that produce equipment for green energy, his Russian business dealings and so on, the amount of money pouring in (and under the table, no taxes) he must be getting close.
Plus all the money he gets from his "art" from "anonymous" buyers. 
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on July 13, 2022, 06:40:57 AM
Plus all the money he gets from his "art" from "anonymous" buyers.

 That's probably just hooker and blow pocket money.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 27, 2022, 07:55:44 AM
Is this real?

https://twitter.com/terminalcwo/status/1562818637282840577
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on August 27, 2022, 08:30:47 AM
Is this real?

https://twitter.com/terminalcwo/status/1562818637282840577

Yes it is.

For 5 plus decades the pentagon published a yearly paper detailing US military arms, ammunition, assets, etc.  Starting with the Biden Regime this has been stopped.

Ask yourself why?   FJB left billions of dollars worth of military hardware in Afghanistan.   He’s now spending billions to send arms to Ukraine, yet no one can account to where all of this is going once it leaves the US or point of departure.   And our feckless congress won’t demand accountability.

 Wake up folks.  Someone, somewhere is getting armed to the teeth.  Add in the millions of military aged men crossing our border, and being quietly dispersed through the US.   And just for giggles, look at how our military is being gutted and reduced.

 And does anyone wonder why the democrat communist are frothing at the mouth to disarm citizens?

 Please, sit there and smirk while thinking “conspiracy theory”.  If you do think that, you aren’t  paying attention.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2022, 05:27:20 PM
More of our money being pissed away

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Fworld%2Fus%2Fus-congress-negotiators-set-12-bln-new-ukraine-aid-2022-09-26%2F
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Anthony on September 27, 2022, 04:36:20 AM
Yes it is.

For 5 plus decades the pentagon published a yearly paper detailing US military arms, ammunition, assets, etc.  Starting with the Biden Regime this has been stopped.

Ask yourself why?   FJB left billions of dollars worth of military hardware in Afghanistan.   He’s now spending billions to send arms to Ukraine, yet no one can account to where all of this is going once it leaves the US or point of departure.   And our feckless congress won’t demand accountability.

 Wake up folks.  Someone, somewhere is getting armed to the teeth.  Add in the millions of military aged men crossing our border, and being quietly dispersed through the US.   And just for giggles, look at how our military is being gutted and reduced.

 And does anyone wonder why the democrat communist are frothing at the mouth to disarm citizens?

 Please, sit there and smirk while thinking “conspiracy theory”.  If you do think that, you aren’t  paying attention.

This needs to be repeated. My Colt M4 is getting antsy.
Title: Re: Ukraine, Putin, and Biden
Post by: Lucifer on October 19, 2022, 05:59:52 AM
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