PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 13, 2022, 11:50:23 AM

Title: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 13, 2022, 11:50:23 AM
https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/dan-gryder-attacking-others-in-aviation.137603/

Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2022, 12:04:09 PM
That Dan Gryder is an asshole based on everything I’ve seen from him on YouTube. I don’t know anything about the subject of the post.
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: Lucifer on April 13, 2022, 12:49:29 PM
Gryder is a publicity seeking asshat.

I'm sure he has a great following at PoA.   ::)
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 13, 2022, 12:54:01 PM
Gryder is a publicity seeking asshat.

I'm sure he has a great following at PoA.   ::)
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Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: Number7 on April 13, 2022, 01:11:24 PM
I can just imagine what sacred cow was skewered when someone dared to disagree with the approved narrative of the snowflake assholes.

Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2022, 01:37:03 PM
A newbie that hasn’t got with the program yet.  You can’t express strong opinions there.

And, calling a trans woman “him” is an “attack”.  What ever happened to sticks and stones?
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2022, 02:27:18 PM
A newbie that hasn’t got with the program yet.  You can’t express strong opinions there.

And, calling a trans woman “him” is an “attack”.  What ever happened to sticks and stones?
My sole compromise is to call such persons by their chosen name. I wouldn’t call Kaitlyn “Bruce,” because people can change their names.

They cannot change their sex or gender, however, so I will not participate in someone’s fraudulent use of the English language.
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: Anthony on April 13, 2022, 03:34:28 PM
My sole compromise is to call such persons by their chosen name. I wouldn’t call Kaitlyn “Bruce,” because people can change their names.

They cannot change their sex or gender, however, so I will not participate in someone’s fraudulent use of the English language.

I have to admit, I also call the trans man at work his chosen female name as I don't view it my place to protest nor confront his mental illness.  I also call him her and she as a sign of acceptance and yes, support.   I can't imagine what these people deal with and are going through.  It's obviously difficult.  "She" does "her" job, is kind and accepting to me, isn't political about it, so I show her the same courtesy.  I've also met her mom and grandad as they've visited my workplace and they're very thankful of the general acceptance there.  Golden rule and all, ya know.
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2022, 05:26:35 PM
I have to admit, I also call the trans man at work his chosen female name as I don't view it my place to protest nor confront his mental illness.  I also call him her and she as a sign of acceptance and yes, support.   I can't imagine what these people deal with and are going through.  It's obviously difficult.  "She" does "her" job, is kind and accepting to me, isn't political about it, so I show her the same courtesy.  I've also met her mom and grandad as they've visited my workplace and they're very thankful of the general acceptance there.  Golden rule and all, ya know.

I come from a different place than either of y’all.  Having been deep in the gay/trans subculture back in the 20th century, effeminate gay men, drag queens, and MtF transgenders would refer to each other with female pronouns, but it had a specific context.  Often it was snarky.  It was an inside joke.  It called attention to the fact that this was a male they were referring to, and they were using the female pronoun to point out that he was being particularly bitchy, or outrageous, or amusing; it was definitely not always an insult, but it was always very conscious, that it was a twist on reality. It was never with the expectation that people in general should use the female pronouns, unless a transgender had actually seriously transitioned, in which case they hoped to “pass” as a female, and then it ideally shouldn’t be an issue, although that was unrealistic (hence the high suicide rate etc.)

So to me, it is a normal language thing but only in that subculture and only those conditions.  I have no problem calling a transitioned tranny “she”.  But overall… they’ve ruined the charm of it.  When you try to force such an unnatural and special language use on unwilling people through legal mandates, canceling, shaming, etc., then you’re no longer the good guy, you’re now the oppressor.

Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: bflynn on April 13, 2022, 06:42:02 PM
And, calling a trans woman “him” is an “attack”.  What ever happened to sticks and stones?

As is attacking someone on the internet.
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on April 14, 2022, 02:10:44 PM
My suggestion. Stop using PoA. They explicitly attempt to enforce subjective rules using mind reading. Not worth the hassle dealing with the MC there.
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: nddons on April 14, 2022, 06:46:08 PM
My suggestion. Stop using PoA. They explicitly attempt to enforce subjective rules using mind reading. Not worth the hassle dealing with the MC there.
Most of us have shit canned POA a long time ago. Some masochists still like to pop in just see the craziness I guess.
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: Rush on April 14, 2022, 07:23:18 PM
Most of us have shit canned POA a long time ago. Some masochists still like to pop in just see the craziness I guess.

I like Medical Matters.  I’ve always had a peripheral interest in medicine.  And I have a long term friendship with Dr Bruce.  Other than that I’d go there when this place got too slow.  But I think it’s all over with now.
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: nddons on April 14, 2022, 08:48:19 PM
I like Medical Matters.  I’ve always had a peripheral interest in medicine.  And I have a long term friendship with Dr Bruce.  Other than that I’d go there when this place got too slow.  But I think it’s all over with now.
No need to justify anything!  I’ve gone into a few too many seedy bars in my youth myself.
Title: Re: here's another one that will (rightly) get locked and tossed
Post by: Lucifer on April 15, 2022, 06:40:27 AM
The level of stupidity on display over there is astounding.   It seems to be a constant pissing match on who can come across as more stupid than the next person.

 And "advice" given on aviation subjects?  Only a fool would follow much of the advice given.   Idiots on parade.