Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on April 18, 2022, 10:08:36 AM
This from a thread in mooneyspace in December 2017 titled "About time I fessed up" (https://mooneyspace.com/topic/23693-i-should-really-think-about-giving-up-this-aviation-thing/#comment-376115)
"August 2016 I was delivering my Mooney M20c to my mechanic, Bobby Norman, at the Parr airport (42I) in Zanesville Ohio. I had interaction with Bobby years ago, and he came highly recommended by a number of local Mooney owners. I had thought the field was about 2300 feet (wrong, more on that later) so coming in over the trees I pulled the power to idle, put it in a forward slip and came down. 75mph over the numbers, flared and BANG!. Hardest landing I'd ever done in anything. At the top of the bounce I had a choice, and decided to ride it out. I was uncomfortable trying to go around at a short strip in that predicament. The aircraft bounced a couple more times and stopped, and I taxied back. I had struck the prop in that landing, quite badly.
The prop was bent asymmetrically, and the craskshaft busted. I hit hard enough that the force went through the gear into the Johnson bar, wrecking the mechanism that holds it in place (Bobby only figured that part out when he started taxiing. He said it was quite exciting)."
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on April 18, 2022, 10:12:49 AM
Edited with updated information.
Micheal Weinstein does own a Mooney M20C in an LLC. N6475U .
This aircraft was involved in a crash back in 75, but nothing the NTSB more recently. https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/brief.aspx?ev_id=47053&key=0 . That crash does not appear to be the incident he is referring to since the pilot in that crash was 58 at the time.
He seems to have a very different persona on mooneyspace. Perhaps because he is known there?
Here is a thread titled "I should really think about giving up this aviation thing", dated Aug 28, 2017. It mentions the prop strike as being previous. https://mooneyspace.com/topic/23693-i-should-really-think-about-giving-up-this-aviation-thing/#comment-376115
In a way, this seems more curious to me. He has this fairly humble friendly persona then comes on PoA, PS, and PB with all these fallacies and is very hostile.
Post by: Mr Pou on April 18, 2022, 10:34:54 AM
If the runway is of sufficient length, I add a little throttle, and then softly land again. This technique usually works, but if the aircraft leaves the runway a second time, it's time to apply full power and get the hell out of there. Maybe you can save the second bounce, maybe not. The problem is, if you get a third bounce, you will likely have a prop strike.
I didn't know he came down so hard as to damage the landing gear, that is a tough one. Ugh. One problem with the Mooney is the rubber biscuit landing gear. Unlike an a strut, which I assume has some damping abilitiy just as a car strut does, the rubber gear has zero damping. Pretty much all of the energy put into compressing the gear WILL be released as a rebound, bouncing the plane back into the air. A soft touchdown (at the right speed) is the ticket to avoiding the bounce.
Post by: Rush on April 19, 2022, 09:53:45 AM
He seems to have a very different persona on mooneyspace. Perhaps because he is known there?
… He has this fairly humble friendly persona then comes on PoA, PS, and PB with all these fallacies and is very hostile.
The Worlds Theory. There’s Mooney Michael, and there’s the other Michael. You’re bringing them together. That’s a no-no. You’re killing Independent Michael. We have to keep our worlds separate.
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on April 19, 2022, 10:19:17 AM
There’s Mooney Michael, and there’s the other Michael. You’re bringing them together. That’s a no-no. You’re killing Independent Michael. We have to keep our worlds separate.
My pleasure.