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Title: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Trump/won/bigly) on July 06, 2022, 08:51:31 PM
Concern is rising that the vaccines are keeping us from really moving past this virus, and letting it weaken as would naturally occur sans vaccine. This coming fall and winter could be awful. If the past two years are any indication, the people “in charge” will not let up on the push to vaccinate.

Everyone should be ready for early treatment, get set up with a doctor you trust to see things as they are, and keep up Vitamin D levels and have some antivirals on hand.

I hope the worst does not happen, but trusted voices are urging that vaccinations stop.

https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 07, 2022, 05:08:03 AM
It is my feeling, not as a scientist but as an observant person with common sense and a pretty broad base of general knowledge, that certain specific vaccines are good but that the number of diseases we vaccinate against should be limited because we are interfering with the natural evolutionary balance between ourselves and pathogens. 

Smallpox, YES.  Rabies, YES.  Tetanus, YES.  Annual flu?  No.  Chickenpox?  Probably doing more harm than good.  Now that we are vaccinating kids against chickenpox, older adults are not being exposed to sick kids and reinforcing the natural immunity they have against the virus from their own childhood chickenpox, hence a rise in shingles and the necessity for a shingles vaccine.

Polio, maybe.  But now we are giving our kids vaccines for fourteen different diseases before they’re even one year old. Infants have extremely alert immune systems.  At the moment of birth they go from a sterile environment to instantaneous attack by billions of pathogens.  With the help of their mother’s breast milk, their immune system hits the ground running and is busy building protection throughout the early years based on what they are exposed to.  Do we really know the effect of artificially fooling the immune system by exposing them to altered versions of diseases that historically most children acquired natural immunity to?

The argument is, these diseases killed some of these kids.  The pragmatic response is, that strengthens the species by culling the genes that couldn’t fight the bug.  If these vaccines do prevent these deaths, we cannot escape the conclusion that we are preventing the human species from remaining naturally strong against co-evolving pathogens.  We are creating a dependency on the technology of vaccination. 

But we have done that already in countless other ways.  Corrective lenses for example.  In prehistoric times the very nearsighted probably got eaten by tigers.  You don’t see any nearsighted eagles.  We now depend on technology for food with mass agriculture with most people having no idea how to feed themselves absent the capitalist system now in place.

So creating dependency on vaccines may or may not necessarily be a bad thing.  Maybe not if you like the idea of humans becoming enmeshed with artificial molecules and pieces and parts. Hell, I’m getting ready to exchange a major joint for a piece of artificial technology.  So fine, shoot the babies full of artificial immunity.  Might as well prop up what few babies we’re having with as much technology as possible. We are too far removed from nature now to ever go back.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 07, 2022, 05:12:32 AM
Oh and in case you can’t put together my opinion on the Covid vaccine, that would be a HELL NO.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on July 07, 2022, 05:52:28 AM
Oh and in case you can’t put together my opinion on the Covid vaccine, that would be a HELL NO.

Pope Tony's Magic Elixir is "the science".    Never question the Great Pope Tony.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Trump/won/bigly) on July 08, 2022, 05:19:34 AM
It is my feeling, not as a scientist but as an observant person with common sense and a pretty broad base of general knowledge, that certain specific vaccines are good but that the number of diseases we vaccinate against should be limited because we are interfering with the natural evolutionary balance between ourselves and pathogens. 

Smallpox, YES.  Rabies, YES.  Tetanus, YES.  Annual flu?  No.  Chickenpox?  Probably doing more harm than good.  Now that we are vaccinating kids against chickenpox, older adults are not being exposed to sick kids and reinforcing the natural immunity they have against the virus from their own childhood chickenpox, hence a rise in shingles and the necessity for a shingles vaccine.

Polio, maybe.  But now we are giving our kids vaccines for fourteen different diseases before they’re even one year old. Infants have extremely alert immune systems.  At the moment of birth they go from a sterile environment to instantaneous attack by billions of pathogens.  With the help of their mother’s breast milk, their immune system hits the ground running and is busy building protection throughout the early years based on what they are exposed to.  Do we really know the effect of artificially fooling the immune system by exposing them to altered versions of diseases that historically most children acquired natural immunity to?

The argument is, these diseases killed some of these kids.  The pragmatic response is, that strengthens the species by culling the genes that couldn’t fight the bug.  If these vaccines do prevent these deaths, we cannot escape the conclusion that we are preventing the human species from remaining naturally strong against co-evolving pathogens.  We are creating a dependency on the technology of vaccination. 

But we have done that already in countless other ways.  Corrective lenses for example.  In prehistoric times the very nearsighted probably got eaten by tigers.  You don’t see any nearsighted eagles.  We now depend on technology for food with mass agriculture with most people having no idea how to feed themselves absent the capitalist system now in place.

So creating dependency on vaccines may or may not necessarily be a bad thing.  Maybe not if you like the idea of humans becoming enmeshed with artificial molecules and pieces and parts. Hell, I’m getting ready to exchange a major joint for a piece of artificial technology.  So fine, shoot the babies full of artificial immunity.  Might as well prop up what few babies we’re having with as much technology as possible. We are too far removed from nature now to ever go back.

I’m with you until the last paragraph. The tipping point is the altering of the human immune system to make it dependent on continued injections of high-profit, true data-obscured experimental gene therapy. And using such heinous means to control people. Canada has just declared that henceforth “fully vaccinated” will mean a booster every nine months. These Covid 19 vaccines have to stop. Full. Stop.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 08, 2022, 05:58:58 AM
I’m with you until the last paragraph. The tipping point is the altering of the human immune system to make it dependent on continued injections of high-profit, true data-obscured experimental gene therapy. And using such heinous means to control people. Canada has just declared that henceforth “fully vaccinated” will mean a booster every nine months. These Covid 19 vaccines have to stop. Full. Stop.

Haha, yes.  The last paragraph was a little bit sarcastic.  There is indeed a difference between installing a physical prosthetic (joint) or using an assistive device (corrective lenses), and chemically altering the immune system with ongoing lifelong injections.  The first two may make profit but they are voluntary transactions benefitting both parties. “Good” capitalism. By contrast, mandating Covid injections is a corrupt abuse of capitalism, to profit corporations by forcing it on the unwilling, and using collectivism (taxes) to transfer all the money.

What do you call it when large corporations and government conspire together to impose authoritarian schemes on the people resulting in more power and wealth to the former?  Oh yeah, fascism. And the tax collection method “for the good of society” is socialism.  Where have I seen those two terms together before?
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on July 08, 2022, 07:37:09 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/haiti-not-vaccinate-citizens-current-vax-rate-1-4-yet-country-one-lowest-covid-death-rates-world-weird-huh/
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on July 08, 2022, 05:01:16 PM
Our current Democrat, crony Capitalism is indeed Nazi Germany style Fascism.  Ironically, many involved are Jews.  Totally on board.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on July 09, 2022, 05:32:57 AM
The mid term variant is here, right on cue.

https://news.yahoo.com/ninja-covid-variant-most-dangerous-084832058.html
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 09, 2022, 06:54:03 AM
The mid term variant is here, right on cue.

https://news.yahoo.com/ninja-covid-variant-most-dangerous-084832058.html

Wow.  What a mix of lies and truth.  How do these people live with themselves?

Propaganda by saying one thing in the headline and opening paragraph knowing most people won’t read the whole article.  It’s the “most dangerous”, and “the worst so far”, but note that later in the article it specifies that means the most contagious.  It says nothing about severity of illness or death rates.

Early in the article it says the pandemic isn’t over, but at the very end it admits it’s no longer a pandemic, but endemic.  But then it doubles down on the danger, much more dangerous than the flu. Really?  Where are all the victims dropping like flies?

It claims this “ninja” variant evades the antibodies.  Then it blames the unvaxxed for its rise.  How is that possible?  It’s the vaxxed who all have antibodies whether or not they get the disease.  So more of them have antibodies than the unvaxxed, so a variable that evolves to evade antibodies would have done so among the vaxxed more than the unvaxxed.

The trashed vaccines are a “ bureaucratic screw-up.”. No, the trashed vaccines are due to the public rejecting the infinite booster scheme.

That article is blatant fear porn, and no one with two brain cells to rub together is buying their bullshit anymore.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on July 09, 2022, 08:22:48 AM
Yahoo news is about as dependable as Wikipedia.

I'm surprised petey hasn't used them yet.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Trump/won/bigly) on July 10, 2022, 07:44:39 AM
Whoever replaces Boris will be cabal.

https://gab.com/PJ_STORM/posts/108622983842562337

Covid failed, climate is underway.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Username on July 10, 2022, 08:14:28 AM
Whoever replaces Boris will be cabal.

https://gab.com/PJ_STORM/posts/108622983842562337

Covid failed, climate is underway.
They will try, but for the most part people don't care about global warming / climate change / climate crisis / climate emergency.  It's a long-term thing, "experts" say we're already past the tipping point, and the vast majority of people aren't concerned that rich folks on the coast will have their multi-million dollar houses get wet (Obama, etc.).  What will happen is artificially induced food shortages and strategically set fires and totally preventable blackouts and totally preventable water rationing to convince the masses that they must make sacrifices and lock down for the climate, vote by mail, and obey their masters.  While those masters get richer.  I'm hoping that the masses are smarter than that and will see through the scheme.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: nddons on July 10, 2022, 11:25:07 AM
They will try, but for the most part people don't care about global warming / climate change / climate crisis / climate emergency.  It's a long-term thing, "experts" say we're already past the tipping point, and the vast majority of people aren't concerned that rich folks on the coast will have their multi-million dollar houses get wet (Obama, etc.).  What will happen is artificially induced food shortages and strategically set fires and totally preventable blackouts and totally preventable water rationing to convince the masses that they must make sacrifices and lock down for the climate, vote by mail, and obey their masters.  While those masters get richer.  I'm hoping that the masses are smarter than that and will see through the scheme.
Well, except for the climate saboteurs embedded in FedGov that are driving our government into destroying our farmers market economy and the middle class, all to advance their green agenda.  They still care, even if it kills the US. And for now, they hold the levers of power.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on July 10, 2022, 03:19:21 PM
They will try, but for the most part people don't care about global warming / climate change / climate crisis / climate emergency.  It's a long-term thing, "experts" say we're already past the tipping point, and the vast majority of people aren't concerned that rich folks on the coast will have their multi-million dollar houses get wet (Obama, etc.).  What will happen is artificially induced food shortages and strategically set fires and totally preventable blackouts and totally preventable water rationing to convince the masses that they must make sacrifices and lock down for the climate, vote by mail, and obey their masters.  While those masters get richer.  I'm hoping that the masses are smarter than that and will see through the scheme.

Government cares, therfore Corporations care and Education cares, indoctrinaing and brainwashing generations. Generally young people are on board yet they want all their plastics, luxuries and comfort.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: nddons on July 10, 2022, 04:59:41 PM
Government cares, therfore Corporations care and Education cares, indoctrinaing and brainwashing generations. Generally young people are on board yet they want all their plastics, luxuries and comfort.
This gets under my skin so much. Are these young people that ignorant, or are they just massive evil hypocrites? 

Growing up in the 1960s forward, we did the following:
-water came from the water faucet, not plastic bottles.
-pop and beer came in returnable bottles, and we returned them to the grocery store or liquor store.
-paper grocery bags properly degraded.
-newspapers that have been read were packed in paper grocery bags, and dropped off at the church’s monthly newspaper drive, where the Boy Scouts stacked them inside of a shipping container for recycling.
-cans were crushed and recycled.
-etc.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 10, 2022, 05:54:51 PM
This gets under my skin so much. Are these young people that ignorant, or are they just massive evil hypocrites? 

Growing up in the 1960s forward, we did the following:
-water came from the water faucet, not plastic bottles.
-pop and beer came in returnable bottles, and we returned them to the grocery store or liquor store.
-paper grocery bags properly degraded.
-newspapers that have been read were packed in paper grocery bags, and dropped off at the church’s monthly newspaper drive, where the Boy Scouts stacked them inside of a shipping container for recycling.
-cans were crushed and recycled.
-etc.

I can beat that.  I used cloth diapers on my babies.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 11, 2022, 04:48:08 AM
I can beat that.  I used cloth diapers on my babies.

remember when we were being told that laundry detergent was bad for the environment?

Sooooo, washing diapers was bad.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2022, 01:42:25 PM
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/07/11/pfizer-sponsors-florida-democratic-convetion/
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on July 11, 2022, 02:22:02 PM
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/07/11/pfizer-sponsors-florida-democratic-convetion/

Somebody has to show up with the check...
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Trump/won/bigly) on July 22, 2022, 05:47:57 AM
Well, here’s the thing. Their aged, frail and unhealthy imposter has covid.

How do you keep covid fear stoked when the aged, frail and unhealthy imposter says he feels fine though testing positive?

Either covid is a big deal or it isn’t.



Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 22, 2022, 05:50:46 AM
Well, here’s the thing. Their aged, frail and unhealthy imposter has covid.

How do you keep covid fear stoked when the aged, frail and unhealthy imposter says he feels fine though testing positive?

Either covid is a big deal or it isn’t.

Actually, it is a big deal…. when you are old old old    Just like influenza and pretty much any other illness
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2022, 05:55:47 AM
Actually, it is a big deal…. when you are old old old    Just like influenza and pretty much any other illness

Yep.  Any illness can turn catastrophic for the very old.  The truth is Covid has devolved into another common cold.  It’s not even as bad as influenza anymore. 
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Trump/won/bigly) on July 22, 2022, 05:58:09 AM
C’mon, Bob! Officialdom tells us “everyone is going to get covid,” and in the same breath tells us to get vaccinated against it.

The weakest organism in the country is walking around infected with it, contact tracing has been rejected by officialdom (in his case) as unimportant, and wow, “this President” made Paxlovid available. Yet the clot shot EUAs are still in place.

https://twitter.com/backtolife_2023/status/1550195321975836673

Corruption and obfuscation and inconsistency much?
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on July 22, 2022, 06:10:21 AM
Yep.  Any illness can turn catastrophic for the very old.  The truth is Covid has devolved into another common cold.  It’s not even as bad as influenza anymore.

Isn't that actually the purpose of these viruses? To take out the non productive old and weak? Sounds callous but it's true.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2022, 07:11:35 AM
Isn't that actually the purpose of these viruses? To take out the non productive old and weak? Sounds callous but it's true.

Yes it is, but we are long past allowing nature to work as intended.  We have technology’d ourselves into allowing the stupidest and weakest of our species to survive and reproduce to the point that for the first time in 2 million years of evolution we are now actually getting dumber instead of smarter.  As for those too old to reproduce, our technology now keeps them alive and draining resources from the young for far too long after they’ve ceased to contribute anything to the household or society, other than keeping nursing homes profitable. 

That didn’t hurt too much as long as there were fewer old people than young people but because age demographics have been turned upside down, we can look forward to sucking the financial and emotional life out of what few youngsters we make as we burden them with billions of decrepit useless withered old vampires being kept around on life support for no good reason.

There, did I out-callous you?   ;D
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: jb1842 on July 22, 2022, 07:34:25 AM
Yes it is, but we are long past allowing nature to work as intended.  We have technology’d ourselves into allowing the stupidest and weakest of our species to survive and reproduce to the point that for the first time in 2 million years of evolution we are now actually getting dumber instead of smarter.  As for those too old to reproduce, our technology now keeps them alive and draining resources from the young for far too long after they’ve ceased to contribute anything to the household or society, other than keeping nursing homes profitable. 

That didn’t hurt too much as long as there were fewer old people than young people but because age demographics have been turned upside down, we can look forward to sucking the financial and emotional life out of what few youngsters we make as we burden them with billions of decrepit useless withered old vampires being kept around on life support for no good reason.

There, did I out-callous you?   ;D

Imagine how affordable healthcare would be if we stopped prolonging the life of the elderly or terminally ill longer than they it should naturally be? We all love the old people in our lives, but there comes a time where life needs to end, and it's not being prolonged in hospitals just because.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2022, 07:57:24 AM
Imagine how affordable healthcare would be if we stopped prolonging the life of the elderly or terminally ill longer than they it should naturally be? We all love the old people in our lives, but there comes a time where life needs to end, and it's not being prolonged in hospitals just because.

There comes a point where they aren’t even who they used to be.  When not only can they not physically do anything, they don’t even have a mind anymore.  You can’t even benefit from their wisdom and memories so they are literally contributing nothing. And usually they themselves never wanted to be like that.

This becomes a pretty complicated ethical question.  These people shouldn’t be offed against their will.  If you want to hang around for years as a useless piece of meat it should be your right - as long as you can pay for it yourself.  The problem comes when you expect the taxpayer to fund your useless last years in a facility.  Or your children, who should be raising the next generation or saving for their own retirement. 
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on July 22, 2022, 08:00:11 AM
Imagine how affordable healthcare would be if we stopped prolonging the life of the elderly or terminally ill longer than they it should naturally be? We all love the old people in our lives, but there comes a time where life needs to end, and it's not being prolonged in hospitals just because.

When the fucktard liberals made abortion the end all-be all of feminism, they corrupted the medical profession into becoming hired killers.

Moving on to the sick and elderly isn't much of a leap for those soulless, fucking, morons.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on July 22, 2022, 08:35:49 AM
Healthcare would be affordable if we would have kept government out of it.   In countries where healthcare is a free market, it's very affordable.

Also, our healthcare system is a wreck.   Need a medical procedure?   Good luck on finding transparent pricing.   It's such a shell game and the insurance companies run the show.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2022, 08:51:53 AM
Healthcare would be affordable if we would have kept government out of it.   In countries where healthcare is a free market, it's very affordable.

Also, our healthcare system is a wreck.   Need a medical procedure?   Good luck on finding transparent pricing.   It's such a shell game and the insurance companies run the show.

THIS.  Let the free market operate and you minimize the poor class that can’t afford healthcare or long term elderly care.  These have become profit making institutions completely corrupted by government interference.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Mase on July 22, 2022, 09:38:43 AM
Y'all sound like Obama.  Take the pill, we can't afford the surgery.

My 75-year-old wife just had a knee replacement.  Thank you Medicare and taxpayers.

Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on July 22, 2022, 10:06:34 AM
Y'all sound like Obama.  Take the pill, we can't afford the surgery.

My 75-year-old wife just had a knee replacement.  Thank you Medicare and taxpayers.

No, we believe in the free market.  There is a place for Medicare, we just don’t need it being applied to every other healthcare segment. 

This is why it’s almost impossible to get a quote on a medical procedure.  Because of insurance and government, these cost are buried in layers of codes.  If we had a free market, you could inquire at a facility “how much for this procedure?”  and get an answer to allow the consumer to shop around. 

Who knows, the Sisters of Perpetual Motion Hospital may be offering a 50% sale this month on knee replacements. 
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2022, 10:44:20 AM
Y'all sound like Obama.  Take the pill, we can't afford the surgery.

My 75-year-old wife just had a knee replacement.  Thank you Medicare and taxpayers.

Technically, Medicare is an insurance you paid into.  Health insurance, but an incredibly expensive and corrupt one that you are forced to buy for all intents and purposes.

I’m not judging, Medicare is about to buy me a total hip replacement.  I hope you’re wife is doing well.  They tell me knees are harder to recover from than hips these days.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Mase on July 22, 2022, 01:22:59 PM
.  I hope you’re wife is doing well.  They tell me knees are harder to recover from than hips these days.

Thanks.  So far so good.  Only been a week so far.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2022, 02:05:48 PM
Thanks.  So far so good.  Only been a week so far.

The doctor already told me that the first reaction after a hip replacement is regret. "What have I got myself into?"  Ha ha, but it's uphill from there.  Hopefully the first week is the worst for knee too.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on July 22, 2022, 04:52:25 PM


There, did I out-callous you?   ;D

Maybe.   ;D
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2022, 03:43:35 PM
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/will-physicians-ever-speak-out
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on July 26, 2022, 06:50:29 AM
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1551571265374154752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1551571265374154752%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fthe-vaccine-will-eventually-be-known-as-biggest-scandal-in-medical-history%2F
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 02, 2022, 01:56:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xXWLHlV.jpg)
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on August 02, 2022, 04:15:23 PM
I had internal bleeding from taking Benadryl and Ibuprofen over an extended period so ended up going to the ER. My hemoglobin was 4, so they kept me for a few days with three IV's in my arm and three blood transfusions.  No biggie. However this was 18-20 months ago during the peak of Covid.  The hospital was EMPTY.  I was the only person on my wing.  In the ER, I had three doctors and two nurses attending to me because they were bored. The MEDIA had been saying the hospitals were over capacity with the sick and dying from Covid.  More LIES!!!!
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 02, 2022, 04:56:31 PM
I had internal bleeding from taking Benadryl and Ibuprofen over an extended period so ended up going to the ER. My hemoglobin was 4, so they kept me for a few days with three IV's in my arm and three blood transfusions.  No biggie. However this was 18-20 months ago during the peak of Covid.  The hospital was EMPTY.  I was the only person on my wing.  In the ER, I had three doctors and two nurses attending to me because they were bored. The MEDIA had been saying the hospitals were over capacity with the sick and dying from Covid.  More LIES!!!!

some hospitals (maybe just a relatively small percentage?) were packed at times... e.g., many hospitals in maskachusetts.   

btw - don't get confused by the number of beds occupied because sometimes there weren't enough staff available for all the beds that physically existed.

but now... less than 10% of the patients in maskachusetts hospitals have covid and less than 1/3rd of those are actually in the hospital because of covid (source:  mass.gov).

Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on August 02, 2022, 05:46:14 PM
I had internal bleeding from taking Benadryl and Ibuprofen over an extended period so ended up going to the ER. My hemoglobin was 4, so they kept me for a few days with three IV's in my arm and three blood transfusions.  No biggie. However this was 18-20 months ago during the peak of Covid.  The hospital was EMPTY.  I was the only person on my wing.  In the ER, I had three doctors and two nurses attending to me because they were bored. The MEDIA had been saying the hospitals were over capacity with the sick and dying from Covid.  More LIES!!!!

Yikes! Glad you’re okay!
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on August 02, 2022, 06:17:12 PM
Yikes! Glad you’re okay!

Thanks,  yeah. I took an Uber and walked in think they'd give me something and let me go. I was wrong.  Lol.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 03, 2022, 08:03:14 AM
I had internal bleeding from taking Benadryl and Ibuprofen over an extended period so ended up going to the ER. My hemoglobin was 4, so they kept me for a few days with three IV's in my arm and three blood transfusions.  No biggie. However this was 18-20 months ago during the peak of Covid.  The hospital was EMPTY.  I was the only person on my wing.  In the ER, I had three doctors and two nurses attending to me because they were bored. The MEDIA had been saying the hospitals were over capacity with the sick and dying from Covid.  More LIES!!!!

I don't think it was the benedryl.

Also, I wonder how many people died because they avoided going to hospitals when they needed to because media-government complex fear generation.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on August 03, 2022, 08:38:19 AM
I don't think it was the benedryl.

Also, I wonder how many people died because they avoided going to hospitals when they needed to because media-government complex fear generation.

Combination Benadryl and Ibuprofen.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 04, 2022, 07:19:55 AM
https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1554944791175016448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1554944791175016448%7Ctwgr%5Ef2f0b2eda1e5724df89a66e4199502ff2a2d0dcc%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fhyper-vaccinated-australia-sets-new-record-for-covid-deaths%2F
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2022, 05:56:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wKdEhkE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2022, 06:12:13 AM
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/deborah-birx-guide-destroying-america

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Birx then spends hundreds of pages recounting what appears to be political maneuvering to intentionally deceive as many Americans as possible into willingly locking down for as long as possible, without making it seem like a “lockdown”:

At this point, I wasn’t about to use the words lockdown or shutdown. If I had uttered either of those in early March, after being at the White House only one week, the political, nonmedical members of the task force would have dismissed me as too alarmist, too doom-and-gloom, too reliant on feelings and not facts. They would have campaigned to lock me down and shut me up.

Birx recalls using “flatten-the-curve guidance” to manipulate the “political, nonmedical members” of the government into consenting to lockdowns that were stricter than they realized:

On Monday and Tuesday, while sorting through the CDC data issues, we worked simultaneously to develop the flatten-the-curve guidance I hoped to present to the vice president at week’s end. Getting buy-in on the simple mitigation measures every American could take was just the first step leading to longer and more aggressive interventions. We had to make these palatable to the administration by avoiding the obvious appearance of a full Italian lockdown. At the same time, we needed the measures to be effective at slowing the spread, which meant matching as closely as possible what Italy had done—a tall order. We were playing a game of chess in which the success of each move was predicated on the one before it.

She also admits that her guidance regarding the maximum allowable size of social gatherings—10 people—was arbitrary, because her real goal was zero—no social contact of any kind, anywhere:

I had settled on ten knowing that even that was too many, but I figured that ten would at least be palatable for most Americans—high enough to allow for most gatherings of immediate family but not enough for large dinner parties and, critically, large weddings, birthday parties, and other mass social events. … Similarly, if I pushed for zero (which was actually what I wanted and what was required), this would have been interpreted as a “lockdown”—the perception we were all working so hard to avoid.

Birx then divulges her strategy of using federal advisories to give cover to state governors to impose mandates and restrictions:

The White House would “encourage,” but the states could “recommend” or, if needed, “mandate.” In short, we were handing governors and their public health officials a template, a state-level permission slip they could use to enact a specific response that was appropriate for the people under their jurisdiction. The fact that the guidelines would be coming from a Republican White House gave political cover to any Republican governors skeptical of federal overreach.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2022, 07:15:03 AM
In other words - the truth - the fucking communists LIED to everyone from the President down to Joe Six-Pack because they knew that the REAL PRESIDENT not the senile imposter) wouldn't agree with such communist actions.

He didn't. Liberal shit holes did and are paying the price.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Steingar on August 11, 2022, 07:17:17 AM
Yeah, vaccines only knocked out Polio and Smallpox. They're not to be trusted.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 11, 2022, 07:22:59 AM
11 August 2022 Pearls Before Swine
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 11, 2022, 07:26:49 AM
Yeah, vaccines only knocked out Polio and Smallpox. They're not to be trusted.
Yeah, and knocked out COVID, oh wait.   Time to wake up Michael.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2022, 07:34:23 AM
Yeah, vaccines only knocked out Polio and Smallpox. They're not to be trusted.

The fake academic is lecturing us by changing the point.... AGAIN.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2022, 07:48:26 AM
Yeah, vaccines only knocked out Polio and Smallpox. They're not to be trusted.

  Nice.  You are once again obfuscate in order to hide your real intent.   Apparently you fully support tyrannical government control when it comes to health. 

  So here's a direct question:  Should the federal government have the ability to force a citizen to take a vaccine?
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2022, 07:50:42 AM
  Nice.  You are once again obfuscate in order to hide your real intent.   Apparently you fully support tyrannical government control when it comes to health. 

  So here's a direct question:  Should the federal government have the ability to force a citizen to take a vaccine?

According to stupid people, hypocrites and other people like Mikey, a woman has the right to decide absolutely everything about her body EXCEPT when talking about ANYTHING other than abortion.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on August 11, 2022, 08:56:36 AM
Yeah, vaccines only knocked out Polio and Smallpox. They're not to be trusted.


Liberals come up with new ideas, because they are “chaos”.

Conservatives can take the new idea and implement it because they are “order”.

Neither chaos nor order can exist alone.  We need both in balance.  Too much chaos (liberals in charge) things don’t function.  Too much order (conservatives in charge) you get ossified and cannot innovate.

Capitalism is the imposition of order (requiring hierarchy) on the ideas of innovation so that they can be made manifest in practical reality.  It is the tool of conservatism.

Both conservatism and liberalism unchecked lead to tyranny.  Capitalism unchecked leads to monopolies, corruption and tyranny as those at the top gain power and wealth.  Liberalism does the same or worse because being chaos they can’t even manage the basics when they’re in charge (like food and electricity).  They rise to power through brute force or by partnering with the corrupt capitalists.

I think what happened with vaccines is, it was a good idea.  Early vaccines against deadly and crippling diseases were developed with good intentions and good results.  But the drug companies got large and greedy and the idea of vaccines took off as something to pursue endlessly for endless profit. The profit motive is good to get good ideas implemented but then it tends to grow out of control.  We got vaccines for all the normal, usually benign, childhood diseases. Then the flu, also usually benign except for occasional strains. Vaccines took the place of naturally developed herd immunity, and now we aren’t real sure if that’s a good thing for our species in the long run.

The Covid vaccine is the final result of this journey from something excellent and useful all the way to something mediocre at best from a now massive, lumbering and ossified top heavy corporate structure in bed with an even more massive, top heavy and largely incompetent government.



Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2022, 09:37:31 AM
The scam vaccine was a cash cow for criminal communist and other types of democrats.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Steingar on August 11, 2022, 10:01:30 AM
  Nice.  You are once again obfuscate in order to hide your real intent.   Apparently you fully support tyrannical government control when it comes to health. 

  So here's a direct question:  Should the federal government have the ability to force a citizen to take a vaccine?

They do already.  You have to take several to be in the military, for example.

Should the government be allowed to force you to take a vaccine?  No, absolutely not.  On the other hand, I think it reasonable that you be required for some activities.  For example, my institution began a vaccine mandate when they became widely available. You could opt out, but it you wanted to be on campus you had to be tested weekly.  Worked too, we've had minimal to no spread of the virus in classrooms and very little spread on campus.  We've also maintained an infection rate a third of the surrounding area.

I do think medical professionals shouldn't be forced to take care of you when you fall victim to the disease the vaccine might have prevented, however.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2022, 10:08:40 AM
They do already.  You have to take several to be in the military, for example.

OK, we ARE NOT talking about military service or other forms of service in which you are told up front that certain vaccines are rquired.

Should the government be allowed to force you to take a vaccine?  No, absolutely not. 

Agreed.

On the other hand, I think it reasonable that you be required for some activities.  For example, my institution began a vaccine mandate when they became widely available. You could opt out, but it you wanted to be on campus you had to be tested weekly.  Worked too, we've had minimal to no spread of the virus in classrooms and very little spread on campus.  We've also maintained an infection rate a third of the surrounding area.

  That was a state run institution, not federally run.

I do think medical professionals shouldn't be forced to take care of you when you fall victim to the disease the vaccine might have prevented, however.

  I don't think any profession should be forced to preform against their will.   However, doctors were losing their licenses for trying to care for their patients.  Other doctors were have their prescription writing ability terminated by the DEA for writing prescriptions their patients needed.

Was that fair?
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 11, 2022, 10:17:12 AM
They do already.  You have to take several to be in the military, for example.

Should the government be allowed to force you to take a vaccine?  No, absolutely not.  On the other hand, I think it reasonable that you be required for some activities.  For example, my institution began a vaccine mandate when they became widely available. You could opt out, but it you wanted to be on campus you had to be tested weekly.  Worked too, we've had minimal to no spread of the virus in classrooms and very little spread on campus.  We've also maintained an infection rate a third of the surrounding area.

I do think medical professionals shouldn't be forced to take care of you when you fall victim to the disease the vaccine might have prevented, however.
In other words, heavy handed coercion is acceptable.

Should medical professionals refuse to treat you if you don't take statins or like to eat red meat and bread and you have a heart attack?
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on August 11, 2022, 04:15:25 PM
Yeah, vaccines only knocked out Polio and Smallpox. They're not to be trusted.

The Covid jabs were NOT A VACCINE.  Talk to people with real medical knowledge and find out.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2022, 04:22:56 PM
The Covid jabs were NOT A VACCINE.  Talk to people with real medical knowledge and find out.

Mikey shows up, babbles his bullshit and runs for cover because he is, as always, factually challenged.

He is always full of opinions. Though. It's a shame they are always opinions given out as talking points. He never thinks for himself, and is shocked when we reject his polit-I-speak.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: elwood blues on August 11, 2022, 06:11:37 PM
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/deborah-birx-guide-destroying-america


And this is what happens when you put a liberal, an intellectual, in charge who "only wants to help you."
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on August 11, 2022, 06:52:32 PM

And this is what happens when you put a liberal, an intellectual, in charge who "only wants to help you."

Nothing less than an a control freak.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 11, 2022, 09:52:43 PM
So, no more social distancing required and no distinction between vaccinated or not.

Guess that means all those people that have been fired will get their jobs back now.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2022, 05:03:20 PM
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Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2022, 05:27:31 PM
^^^^^lol!
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2022, 05:31:17 PM
Well obviously Albert Bourla isn’t in South Africa.  He said the vaccine 100% prevented Covid 19 in South Africa.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2022, 05:43:09 PM
FWIW, Albert Bourla is the piece of shit CEO of Pfizer, who is now a billionaire because of his faux vaccine.

Yes, he was trying to convince people that his so called vaccine was 100% effective.

Fuck him, fuck Pope Tony.  There's a place reserved in hell for these tin pot tyrants.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 05:59:15 AM
The Branch Covidians just can't let go.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/scientists-shred-new-research-mask-mandates-junk-science-irredeemably
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2022, 06:19:33 AM
One of the basic flaws of liberalism is the absolute belief that their ideas are right because they had them, not because they actually work.

Once that belief is institutionalized, disagreement becomes criminal.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Steingar on August 16, 2022, 06:23:15 AM
The Covid jabs were NOT A VACCINE.  Talk to people with real medical knowledge and find out.

Define vaccine for us.  I'll wait.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2022, 06:25:16 AM
Define vaccine for us.  I'll wait.


No mikey weistein.

YOU define your bullshit... we will wait a long time for coherent reply.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 06:43:25 AM
Define vaccine for us.  I'll wait.

  Maybe you can answer this:  Why did the CDC change the definition of vaccine within the past two years?
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: jb1842 on August 16, 2022, 11:19:50 AM
I hope we see more and more of this...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/health-care-workers-win-10m-settlement-hospitals-covid-vaccine-mandate-big-wakeup-call
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 16, 2022, 01:04:35 PM
Define vaccine for us.  I'll wait.
You mean the one that was revised AFTER the CDC knew that the jabs didn't PREVENT CV?
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2022, 12:19:07 PM
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-meaning-of-incredible/

We’re witnessing the destruction of every institution in the land and nobody knows how to stop it….


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The CDC seems to think nobody will notice its crimes, and the crimes of its sister agencies, FDA, NIAID, NIH, (and the White House Task Force) if it strolls jauntily into the fall season whistling a happy a tune: Nevermind Covid anymore, la la la…. Did I say crimes? Yes, I did. As in gross violations of the law and the basic social contract.

They lied about their roles in the nefarious origins of SARS CoV-2. They conjured up — already had waiting, actually — dangerous genetic treatments masquerading as “vaccines” and then they faked the safety trials to rush them into use. They denied people proper, effective treatments with inexpensive drugs and killed them with ventilators and remdesivir — solely to maintain a fraudulent emergency use authorization (EUA) that shielded “vaccine” companies from lawsuits. Once the “vaccines’ were widely distributed — and forced upon many people with mandates — they confabulated and hid information about adverse reactions and deaths. They destroyed countless small businesses, livelihoods, households, and hindered children’s development with lockdowns. And they used both social and news media to censor their critics in direct violation of the first amendment. That’s all.

Oh, one more thing: they destroyed modern medicine. They will probably assist in the destruction of law, too, because the legal system will never be able to handle the volume of lawsuits against all parties involved in the Covid “vaccine” mass slaughter — including the corporations that forced their employees to get vaxxed and the pharma companies themselves, who will lose their EUA protections once their fraud is proven. And they will hasten the death of an already ailing financial system that can’t bear the wealth transfers implied in the foregoing (on top of the worst debt crisis in human history).

You think I exaggerate? We’re sailing into the flu season with millions of people whose immune systems are wrecked by multiple shots of mRNA novelty drugs. They are also susceptible to many viruses and bacteria which normally lurk in everybody’s bodily ecosystem, but would be controlled by otherwise healthy immune systems. Likewise, their hacked immune systems are no longer able to suppress cancers — many forms of which are already way up above normal statistical levels. Not to mention damage done to cardiovascular systems by spike proteins, which linger in human bodies for more than a year after “vaccine” shots, as well as neurological and brain damage.

Former Wall Street analyst Edward Dowd said yesterday (Aug 18) that a Society of Actuaries report just made public shows that a 20 percent uptick in excess deaths among working age people, which began with vaxx mandates in the fall of 2021, continued into the second quarter of 2022.  Actuaries are the people who compile and analyze statistics for insurance companies.

So, all week the CDC has been walking-back one “guidance” after another. No more compulsory testing, no more contact-tracing, no more social distancing, no more treating the unvaxxed differently than the vaxxed (though the “Joe Biden” regime still won’t allow unvaxxed travelers into the USA), no more vaxx mandates (except, apparently, the US military). Oh, and they’ve conceded that their “vaccines” do not remain in the deltoid muscle, but actually leak all over the body. Note: whatever else the public health agencies are saying or doing right now, they are still promoting the mRNA vaccines, and lying about their safety and effectiveness — because if they told the truth, they would be completely discredited and surely subject to criminal prosecution. And they are still suppressing cheap and effective treatment protocols while promoting remdesivir and the useless (plus expensive) Paxlovid.

The CDC capped the week’s walk-back campaign by announcing a major overhaul of how the agency works. (The FDA and other public health entities made no such promises.) CDC Director Rochelle Walensky, fronting for other little-known federal  bigwigs actually called in to clean-up after her, made the hilarious statement: “I look forward to working with the incredible people at CDC and our partners to realize the agency’s fullest potential to benefit the health and well-being of all Americans.” What a dim bulb. Does she know the definition of the word incredible? (Here it is: impossible to believe.)

Of course, the more sobering picture is that virtually all American institutions are now incredible, impossible to believe, starting from the top: “Joe Biden” as president. The executive branch of the government is being run by Barack Obama and a claque around him and is being run into the ground either on-purpose or out of astounding incompetence. Attorney General Merrick Garland flamboyantly disgraces the very idea of justice with Stalinesque political prosecutions. FBI Director Christopher Wray flouts every attempt to extract the truth about his agency’s operations, and at least half the country believes he’s turned it into a secret police operation like the Gestapo. The college presidents and deans have dishonored the idea of truth-seeking with their cowardly submission to Jacobin-Marxist maniacs and their program of anti-knowledge. And who, in America really trusts his doctor? (Not me. Mine is the “chief medical officer” of my network and he’s still pushing “vaccines.”)

We allowed this to happen. We tolerated this exorbitant abuse by runaway authorities-gone-criminal. We let them get away with their bullshit about “defending our democracy” when they are actively and visibly destroying it. Serious people must be seriously asking themselves: what will it take to stop them now?
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 20, 2022, 10:58:49 AM
https://t.co/puY06qgf0t
Interesting letter.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on August 20, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
https://t.co/puY06qgf0t
Interesting letter.

I’m sure they’ll get right on that.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 20, 2022, 12:07:19 PM
“It’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated”.  ::)
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on August 20, 2022, 04:41:39 PM
“It’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated”.  ::)

Amazing how our Governments, worldwide, MEDIA, Education, and Corporations fucking LIED to us about it all and so many bought it, hook, line, and sinker.  Lemmings and Sheeple all!!!
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 28, 2022, 06:23:08 AM
Love it....

Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on August 28, 2022, 06:36:59 AM
Eight Covid tests. SMDH.  These people have media-induced mass hypochondria.  Imagine testing yourself eight times. You gonna get eight colds any time soon?  Or are you testing yourself symptom free all the time?  Give it a rest.  Covid is endemic and nothing more than a bad cold at this point.  Get over it.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 28, 2022, 07:05:49 AM
Eight Covid tests. SMDH.  These people have media-induced mass hypochondria.  Imagine testing yourself eight times. You gonna get eight colds any time soon?  Or are you testing yourself symptom free all the time?  Give it a rest.  Covid is endemic and nothing more than a bad cold at this point.  Get over it.
One of the Moms I follow on Twitter posted about cleaning out some large number of tests they were given by the school last year, two per week.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Rush on August 28, 2022, 07:32:16 AM
One of the Moms I follow on Twitter posted about cleaning out some large number of tests they were given by the school last year, two per week.

The damage done to a whole generation of young kids, forced to wear masks all day and now repeatedly tested for “this dangerous disease”, we are teaching them to be terrified of an invisible boogie man.  Especially the boys.  They have been denied physical rough and tumble play, necessary for the development of social skills and normal masculinity.  As if that’s not enough, we drive home the point by suggesting they should question their birth gender; they might not be male anyway.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Anthony on August 28, 2022, 07:41:58 AM
The damage done to a whole generation of young kids, forced to wear masks all day and now repeatedly tested for “this dangerous disease”, we are teaching them to be terrified of an invisible boogie man.  Especially the boys.  They have been denied physical rough and tumble play, necessary for the development of social skills and normal masculinity.  As if that’s not enough, we drive home the point by suggesting they should question their birth gender; they might not be male anyway.

These people are totally FUBAR.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Number7 on August 28, 2022, 08:33:26 AM
kathy griffin is a has been, never was, desperate for both attention and to ‘feel’ superior for being too stupid to think for herself.
Title: Re: The Covid road ahead
Post by: Lucifer on August 29, 2022, 05:39:02 AM