Post by: Lucifer on July 28, 2022, 06:51:26 PM
Now monkeypox. Oh, never mind it’s being spread via gay sex, it’s now a public health emergency in various cities. And Covid? Never mind it’s endemic, and very weakened to nothing more than a cold or mild flu, the government keeps extending that as well.
Climate Change is next.
Post by: Rush on July 29, 2022, 05:36:39 AM
They been telling me climate catastrophe is upon us all my life and not only has it not happened, the fact is things are actually getting better. But the lie is so entrenched in the media and education that all the young generations are completely brainwashed. They won’t figure the truth out until they too have lived long enough to realize they were fooled but by then it will be too late. The world will be under the thumb of a global totalitarian cabal, the one using climate change as an excuse to consolidate power over the masses.
If they really believed it, they wouldn’t be buying mansions at seas level.
Post by: elwood blues on July 29, 2022, 11:22:19 AM
Post by: Anthony on July 29, 2022, 04:55:46 PM
In the Soviet Union they have what is known as "The Five-Year Plan."
We're living in a Soviet or 1930's Germany environment right now. We're the Jews.
Post by: Number7 on July 29, 2022, 06:23:44 PM
We're living in a Soviet or 1930's Germany environment right now. We're the Jews.
Ted Cruz read an email written to the "diversity" officer of fuckwad biden regime yesterday and in it was the statement that they were not hire white, straight, or people of the "wrong" religion.
It won't be long and the programs will begin, fully supported by the democrat party of fuckwads.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 29, 2022, 08:03:28 PM
Post by: Rush on July 30, 2022, 03:07:22 AM
They’re literally trying to rid the government of manly, principled men.
Because manly principled men are toxic. Sure it was them who brought us 99.999% of modern civilization and technical progress, brought us out of subsistence living and made life so comfortable that instead of all our time being occupied with obtaining food we can bitch about how if a man opens a door for a woman he is somehow oppressing her.
Post by: Anthony on July 30, 2022, 05:36:53 AM
Because manly principled men are toxic. Sure it was them who brought us 99.999% of modern civilization and technical progress, brought us out of subsistence living and made life so comfortable that instead of all our time being occupied with obtaining food we can bitch about how if a man opens a door for a woman he is somehow oppressing her.
I got a dirty look from a woman the other day opening a door for her. Of course she was dumpy looking, poorly dressed, obviously a Commie supporter and I was toxic, so.....
Post by: Rush on July 30, 2022, 06:29:57 AM
I got a dirty look from a woman the other day opening a door for her. Of course she was dumpy looking, poorly dressed, obviously a Commie supporter and I was toxic, so.....
It boggles the mind. I opened a door for a man in a wheelchair once and got snapped at. When someone does some nice courtesy for you, even if you are offended somehow, if you respond rudely then YOU are the asshole. No one opens doors with evil intent. Even if there’s some subconscious bias going on about assuming dependency or inferiority, they’re trying to be nice to you, you rude piece of shit. Or in the case of your dumpy female, you rude cunt.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 30, 2022, 07:43:13 AM
Yesterday at the coffee shop, the door holders were two teen girls. It’s heartwarming.
Post by: Number7 on July 30, 2022, 07:48:00 AM
I got a dirty look from a woman the other day opening a door for her. Of course she was dumpy looking, poorly dressed, obviously a Commie supporter and I was toxic, so.....
Back when the feminist movement was just Gloria Steinham, I held the door for a local college women's tennis coach, as she was coming thru with several small boxes in her arms.
She got very angry and started to lecture me about women being JUST as capable as men.
After I blew her off she demanded a tennis match to prove she could compete against ANY man.
Sucked to be her, because I was a bit of tennis player and ambidextrous besides. She went down in straight sets winning only one game out of twelve... in front
of her entire cheering section.
Deferring to the weaker sex only goes so far and I really hammered the bitch.
Post by: Rush on July 30, 2022, 08:50:25 AM
On a brighter note, when I take my 94-year-old Mom places, she has her cane in one hand and clutches my arm with the other. We move VERY slowly. We’ve had people of all ages and colors and genders WAIT at the door for long periods of time while we make our way to it, JUST to hold it open. We always tell them thank you.
Yesterday at the coffee shop, the door holders were two teen girls. It’s heartwarming.
Maybe it’s related to location. Where we are now everybody is polite. People hold doors for each other all the time. Maybe it’s because we’re all carrying guns. Wonder if there is a correlation? Or maybe in big cities rudeness is your default behavior, like it’s expected. I’m never living in a big city again.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 30, 2022, 09:44:46 AM
Maybe it’s related to location. Where we are now everybody is polite. People hold doors for each other all the time. Maybe it’s because we’re all carrying guns. Wonder if there is a correlation? Or maybe in big cities rudeness is your default behavior, like it’s expected. I’m never living in a big city again.I comment all the time, to my wife, about how the east and west coasters live in a much different world that hey think everyone is a racist or whatever. I constantly open doors for folks and do what I can t be helpful and friendly.
Post by: elwood blues on July 30, 2022, 10:47:49 AM
Maybe it’s related to location. Where we are now everybody is polite. People hold doors for each other all the time. Maybe it’s because we’re all carrying guns. Wonder if there is a correlation? Or maybe in big cities rudeness is your default behavior, like it’s expected.
Maybe it's related to a lack of melanin, or a lack of salty air, or a lack of exhaust fumes, but people are polite here too. Nah, it's because we all carry guns.
Post by: Rush on July 30, 2022, 11:45:27 AM
Maybe it's related to a lack of melanin, or a lack of salty air, or a lack of exhaust fumes, but people are polite here too. Nah, it's because we all carry guns.
Yeah it must be the guns. It’s not related to melanin, the melaninated here are the same. We do have salty air but lack exhaust fumes because we lack traffic. Other than one hour in the morning and one hour in the afternoon, and that’s only on the main drag, I can go anywhere and encounter only a smattering of cars.
No traffic, low stress, everybody relaxed but armed. Ideal conditions for people to be nice to each other.
Post by: nddons on August 08, 2022, 01:10:08 PM
We are going to spend the rest of our lives living in one public health emergency after another.I choose not to play their games.
Now monkeypox. Oh, never mind it’s being spread via gay sex, it’s now a public health emergency in various cities. And Covid? Never mind it’s endemic, and very weakened to nothing more than a cold or mild flu, the government keeps extending that as well.
Climate Change is next.
The fear of a flu virus resulted in closed restaurants and businesses, lost wages, severe economic losses, shut schools, stunted learning, mask mandates, vax mandates, and everything else.
Yet the “public health” bureaucrats can’t bring themselves to tell men to not have anal sex with strangers. No, THAT’S a bridge too far.
Fuck them. These people get no quarter from me.
Post by: jb1842 on August 08, 2022, 01:24:01 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 08, 2022, 03:01:17 PM
Post by: Anthony on August 08, 2022, 04:53:27 PM
I choose not to play their games.
The fear of a flu virus resulted in closed restaurants and businesses, lost wages, severe economic losses, shut schools, stunted learning, mask mandates, vax mandates, and everything else.
Yet the “public health” bureaucrats can’t bring themselves to tell men to not have anal sex with strangers. No, THAT’S a bridge too far.
Fuck them. These people get no quarter from me.
Right there with ya Stan. Exactly.
Post by: Lucifer on August 10, 2022, 05:55:32 AM
Post by: Steingar on August 10, 2022, 08:43:21 AM
Post by: Rush on August 10, 2022, 08:50:20 AM
AIDS all over again. Worse than AIDS. We have vaccines, tests, drugs, everything. But its in gay people so who cares? Until it's in all of us. We never fucking learn.
Monkeypox is worse than AIDS? Or am I misunderstanding you?
Post by: jb1842 on August 10, 2022, 08:50:44 AM
AIDS all over again. Worse than AIDS. We have vaccines, tests, drugs, everything. But its in gay people so who cares? Until it's in all of us. We never fucking learn.
How is it worse than AIDS?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 10, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
AIDS all over again. Worse than AIDS. We have vaccines, tests, drugs, everything. But its in gay people so who cares? Until it's in all of us. We never fucking learn.
ah, the irony.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 10, 2022, 09:23:06 AM
Lot of restaurants around here are still closed on Monday.Thats the "traditional" day off.
Post by: Anthony on August 10, 2022, 10:55:39 AM
AIDS all over again. Worse than AIDS. We have vaccines, tests, drugs, everything. But its in gay people so who cares? Until it's in all of us. We never fucking learn.
There was MASSIVE government and corporate spending to treat and prevent AIDS. In addition to tremendous public and medical policy changes. Their efforts were largely successful. So how were Gay people disrespected or shown prejudice in anyway? Yet many still continue practicing unsafe sex? ::)
Post by: Steingar on August 10, 2022, 11:07:37 AM
Monkeypox is worse than AIDS? Or am I misunderstanding you?Monkeypox isn't worse than AIDS. If you got AIDS in the 80's you died, period. No drugs, no tests, no vaccines.
If you get Monkeypox you get to be horribly uncomfortable, possibly maimed, but usually not dead.
I was referring to our response to the virus. We have tests, and we made vaccines long ago. Moreover, we even have a stockpile of drugs, a pretty big one at that. We had all the tools to contain this outbreak in place before it ever hit our shores, but now its raging out of control. I suspect because it got it's first foothold here in the gay community.
Heck, it's been endemic in Africa for a long time. We could have sent them our vaccines and nipped the whole thing in the bud. Oh yeah, Africa.
First world medicine my six. We can't disease outbreak, any disease. We suck at it. Even after COVID we suck at it.
Post by: Rush on August 10, 2022, 11:11:50 AM
Monkeypox isn't worse than AIDS. If you got AIDS in the 80's you died, period. No drugs, no tests, no vaccines.
If you get Monkeypox you get to be horribly uncomfortable, possibly maimed, but usually not dead.
I was referring to our response to the virus. We have tests, and we made vaccines long ago. Moreover, we even have a stockpile of drugs, a pretty big one at that. We had all the tools to contain this outbreak in place before it ever hit our shores, but now its raging out of control. I suspect because it got it's first foothold here in the gay community.
Heck, it's been endemic in Africa for a long time. We could have sent them our vaccines and nipped the whole thing in the bud. Oh yeah, Africa.
First world medicine my six. We can't disease outbreak, any disease. We suck at it. Even after COVID we suck at it.
Ah, gotcha.
Post by: Lucifer on August 10, 2022, 11:21:25 AM
Why isn't the CDC requiring airlines and public transportation to require gays to "social distance" while on planes or other public transportation? Why doesn't the CDC require anyone with monkeypox to wear a special burka when outside their home?
Post by: Steingar on August 10, 2022, 12:39:43 PM
So why isn't the CDC recommending closing gay bath houses? Why are they not requiring the gay community to wear condoms, and why are they not requiring anyone who identifies as gay to be vaccinated?
Why isn't the CDC requiring airlines and public transportation to require gays to "social distance" while on planes or other public transportation? Why doesn't the CDC require anyone with monkeypox to wear a special burka when outside their home?
A good idea would have been to direct the small supply of vaccines we have now to the homosexual community, along with the medical personnel taking care of them. Didn't happen, and still isn't happening even though the vaccine supply is getting somewhat better. Like I said, we suck at viral outbreaks. Expect more in the future.
Post by: nddons on August 10, 2022, 12:53:49 PM
So why isn't the CDC recommending closing gay bath houses? Why are they not requiring the gay community to wear condoms, and why are they not requiring anyone who identifies as gay to be vaccinated?Because that bigotry is not to be tolerated!
Why isn't the CDC requiring airlines and public transportation to require gays to "social distance" while on planes or other public transportation? Why doesn't the CDC require anyone with monkeypox to wear a special burka when outside their home?
But it’s just fine to close schools, close restaurants, force churches to close (but not liquor stores), mandate the vax for anyone doing work for FedGov or wishing to travel, demand masks for everyone, not just the sick, end peoples ability to make a living by closing down their businesses, and causing vast economic, learning, and societal destruction, all designed to “slow the spread” for two weeks.
How about “pinch your cheeks for just two weeks!”
Post by: Username on August 10, 2022, 12:59:34 PM
Like I said, we suck at viral outbreaks. Expect more in the future.Because they work so well to control the people!
Post by: Lucifer on August 10, 2022, 01:02:18 PM
A good idea would have been to direct the small supply of vaccines we have now to the homosexual community, along with the medical personnel taking care of them. Didn't happen, and still isn't happening even though the vaccine supply is getting somewhat better. Like I said, we suck at viral outbreaks. Expect more in the future.
Now wait a minute. During covidiocy the CDC enacted all kinds of bizarre "recommendations" that were targeted at John Q. Public and blatantly put in place to restrict movement, place controls on private business and measures "to insure compliance" such as masking and social distancing, never mind these methods were proven to be ineffective.
But now we have the gay community butt fucking their way into catching a disease that FJB and several dem hell hole cities are citing as a "public health emergency", yet not one mention of having the gays curtail their sexual perversions.
As far as your "we suck at viral outbreaks", you can thank your beloved democrats for their hyper political polarization of the CDC and NIH for this. They weaponized these agencies and now they are now longer trusted.
Post by: Number7 on August 10, 2022, 01:15:40 PM
As soon as the fucking democrat communists imagined buying votes by ignoring public health risks in favor of pandering to queers, all ethics and integrity went out the window.
Now the same communist democrat party assholes are ignoring any and all actual precautions to pander to queers all over again.
Post by: Steingar on August 11, 2022, 05:14:27 AM
Gonorrhea, Syphilis, HPV and a host of other STDS have affected heterosexuals just as equally as homosexuals.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 11, 2022, 05:49:47 AM
Post by: Username on August 11, 2022, 06:31:22 AM
I was near the epicenter of the AIDS epidemic and lost more than a few friends to it. This is the same thing all over again. Some vaccines in Africa could have stopped it. Vaccinating some of the at risk populations could have stopped it. We did none of this and now its loose. Didn't have to be. Only saving grace is it's only rarely fatal.It was in the 1980s that I finally woke up to what was going on. I posed the question to my friends: "If it was shown that mosquitos could transmit AIDS, do you think the government would tell you?" Got them thinking. And more than one began more critical thinking about the government But now if it was shown (or even theorized) that mosquitos could transmit monkeypox, it would not be suppressed. It would cause massive lockdowns, hazmat suits for everyone, and still more government control.
Gonorrhea, Syphilis, HPV and a host of other STDS have affected heterosexuals just as equally as homosexuals.
Now consider your proposal. Vaccinating at-risk populations. How would that work? A massive public ad campaign telling all gay folks to line up at the public health centers to get vaccinated? Yeah, that would work great. Or like it is now: voluntary. But people are people and they resist government mandates for medical. So how would you get the at-risk population vaccinated?
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2022, 07:11:47 AM
If queers can't look after their own behavior and get sick.... oh well...
Isn't that like people with COPD and still smoke?
Post by: Steingar on August 11, 2022, 07:16:01 AM
The government should stay the hell out of medicine since their intention is all about politics and nothing about public health.
If queers can't look after their own behavior and get sick.... oh well...
Isn't that like people with COPD and still smoke?
It is inherently a governmental function to stop epidemics.
Post by: Username on August 11, 2022, 07:23:56 AM
It is inherently a governmental function to stop epidemics.Perhaps. But lately it is inherently a government function to grow government. And that takes priority over ALL.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 11, 2022, 07:28:46 AM
It is inherently a governmental function to stop epidemics.
do you expect the government to protect people from stupid dangerous behavior?
Sure, let's spend billions and billions of dollars protecting someone who could avoid the problem by not performing dangerous acts.
yeah, that's the ticket...
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2022, 07:29:41 AM
It is inherently a governmental function to stop epidemics.
To what level? Is it:
1) Make vaccines available and put out reliable, unbiased information so citizens can make a personal choice?
or,
2) Use government agencies to force people into cooperation by creating tyrannical rules, threatening livelihoods and using the same government agencies to spread propaganda?
We've witnessed first hand #2, and it did not go over well. Now the public has a deep distrust of our government in handling any health emergency. Are we to blame the citizens or the hyper politicized government agencies for this?
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2022, 07:32:31 AM
It is inherently a governmental function to stop epidemics.
Yeah???
So... are they going to start?
Post by: Rush on August 11, 2022, 07:36:22 AM
It was in the 1980s that I finally woke up to what was going on. I posed the question to my friends: "If it was shown that mosquitos could transmit AIDS, do you think the government would tell you?" Got them thinking. And more than one began more critical thinking about the government But now if it was shown (or even theorized) that mosquitos could transmit monkeypox, it would not be suppressed. It would cause massive lockdowns, hazmat suits for everyone, and still more government control.
Now consider your proposal. Vaccinating at-risk populations. How would that work? A massive public ad campaign telling all gay folks to line up at the public health centers to get vaccinated? Yeah, that would work great. Or like it is now: voluntary. But people are people and they resist government mandates for medical. So how would you get the at-risk population vaccinated?
No, not gay people. A massive public ad campaign aimed at all people who engage in anal sex. Straight people do it too, prostitutes, porn stars, even husbands and wives (so I hear… ewwwww!).
There are gay men who do NOT engage in anal sex. There are gay men who don’t have sex at all. My best gay male friend was celibate for the last 40 years of his life. I presume gay women don’t engage in anal sex, unless it’s with an inanimate object. There are monogamous gay male couples who would not be at risk of catching it even if they did have anal sex.
So it would be inappropriate to target “the gay community”. The problematic behavior is anal sex, specifically with multiple partners, so that’s what you target. Prostitutes, swingers, porn stars, gay men who aren’t monogamous and engage in anal sex, married couples who engage in anal sex where somebody cheated.
Target the ad campaign to “anyone who has anal sex other than a strictly monogamous relationship.” And see who comes for the shot!
Post by: Rush on August 11, 2022, 07:38:55 AM
It is inherently a governmental function to stop epidemics.
Says who? Is it in the Constitution?
Post by: Number7 on August 11, 2022, 08:09:18 AM
It is inherently a governmental function to stop epidemics.
Yep... Mikey says...
‘Trust Us To Make Health Decisions For You,’ Says Government Health Agency That Can't Define What A Woman Is
https://babylonbee.com/news/trust-us-to-make-health-decisions-for-you-says-government-health-agency-that-cant-define-what-a-woman-is
Uh... NOPE and Noper.
Post by: Steingar on August 11, 2022, 10:04:08 AM
Says who? Is it in the Constitution?
Not by name, no. But I think it could be readily inferred. You'd want the government to protect you if we were invaded by a hostile foreign force. We are being invaded, but it's by a microbe.
Post by: Rush on August 11, 2022, 10:07:46 AM
Yep... Mikey says...
‘Trust Us To Make Health Decisions For You,’ Says Government Health Agency That Can't Define What A Woman Is
https://babylonbee.com/news/trust-us-to-make-health-decisions-for-you-says-government-health-agency-that-cant-define-what-a-woman-is
Uh... NOPE and Noper.
Wow. That’s literally true. The CDC won’t use the word “woman” when talking about pregnancy and periods.
Quote
Results from recent research studies show that people who menstruate may observe small, temporary changes in menstruation after COVID-19 vaccination, including:
……
Learn more about COVID-19 vaccination for people who would like to have a baby.
…….
Many people have become pregnant after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, including some who got vaccinated during COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials.6-8 In addition, a recent report using the v-safe COVID-19 vaccine pregnancy safety monitoring system data showed that 4,800 people had a positive pregnancy test after receiving the first dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine. Another report using data from eight U.S. healthcare systems documented more than 1,000 people who completed COVID-19 vaccination (with any COVID-19 vaccine) before becoming pregnant.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/planning-for-pregnancy.html
We are living in bizarro world.
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2022, 10:09:52 AM
Not by name, no. But I think it could be readily inferred. You'd want the government to protect you if we were invaded by a hostile foreign force. We are being invaded, but it's by a microbe.
No. That's laughable on it's face with regards to the constitution.
Post by: Rush on August 11, 2022, 10:15:51 AM
Not by name, no. But I think it could be readily inferred. You'd want the government to protect you if we were invaded by a hostile foreign force. We are being invaded, but it's by a microbe.
I want men with guns to protect me if we are invaded by a hostile foreign force. I’d just as soon it be the local militia. Which was kind of the original idea. That would be the same as “the government”. I think we have strayed a bit. Microbes? The private medical community is who I’d look to.
Post by: nddons on August 11, 2022, 11:43:44 AM
It was in the 1980s that I finally woke up to what was going on. I posed the question to my friends: "If it was shown that mosquitos could transmit AIDS, do you think the government would tell you?" Got them thinking. And more than one began more critical thinking about the government But now if it was shown (or even theorized) that mosquitos could transmit monkeypox, it would not be suppressed. It would cause massive lockdowns, hazmat suits for everyone, and still more government control.Or as it will be: mandatory monkeypox vaccine for everybody age 6 months and over, all 350,000,000 Americans, so as not to offend homosexuals.
Now consider your proposal. Vaccinating at-risk populations. How would that work? A massive public ad campaign telling all gay folks to line up at the public health centers to get vaccinated? Yeah, that would work great. Or like it is now: voluntary. But people are people and they resist government mandates for medical. So how would you get the at-risk population vaccinated?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 11, 2022, 11:51:38 AM
It is inherently a governmental function to stop epidemics.
Government functions to serve the people to the extent that the people grant powers to the government...
at least that's what we used to think in the USA.
Post by: nddons on August 11, 2022, 11:54:12 AM
Not by name, no. But I think it could be readily inferred. You'd want the government to protect you if we were invaded by a hostile foreign force. We are being invaded, but it's by a microbe.And that’s how creeping socialism occurs, and why we are $31 Trillion in debt.
Post by: Anthony on August 11, 2022, 04:12:29 PM
It’s disappointing (but not surprising) that certain people look to the government to protect them somehow from the consequences of their destructive behavior and choices
^^^^^This. Bad choices, bad health activity, whether it's eating way too much, drinking way too much, using drugs or UNPROTECTED SEX WITH QUESTIONABLE PEOPLE all lead to bad outcomes.
Post by: Lucifer on August 12, 2022, 06:33:14 AM
Post by: Rush on August 12, 2022, 07:02:07 AM
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Agree although I’m not on board with the fentanyl “emergency”. It’s as easy to avoid as avoiding anal sex, it’s a choice. I wish the right would stop using opioids for fear mongering about the border. They SHOULD use gang violence and sex trafficking. Real victims. Sorry, if you use fentanyl illegally I have trouble feeling sorry for you.
Absolutely right about monkeypox. It is being used as a political weapon. Just watch, they’ll drop monkeypox as soon as the first case of this new Chinese virus hits the U.S. Then we will get “two weeks to flatten the curve” (and universal mail in ballots mwa haha) all over again.
Post by: Lucifer on August 12, 2022, 07:10:34 AM
Agree although I’m not on board with the fentanyl “emergency”. It’s as easy to avoid as avoiding anal sex, it’s a choice. I wish the right would stop using opioids for fear mongering about the border. They SHOULD use gang violence and sex trafficking. Real victims. Sorry, if you use fentanyl illegally I have trouble feeling sorry for you.
Absolutely right about monkeypox. It is being used as a political weapon. Just watch, they’ll drop monkeypox as soon as the first case of this new Chinese virus hits the U.S. Then we will get “two weeks to flatten the curve” (and universal mail in ballots mwa haha) all over again.
The fentanyl crisis can be stopped by simply securing the border. But our government isn't interested. After all, it is providing a service to them by exterminating those pesky citizens.
Post by: Rush on August 12, 2022, 07:23:40 AM
The fentanyl crisis can be stopped by simply securing the border. But our government isn't interested. After all, it is providing a service to them by exterminating those pesky citizens.
Just like the monkeypox faux crisis can be stopped by simply telling people to not ass fuck for a few weeks. The government has no interest in stopping monkeypox. On the contrary, it would love nothing more than another “pandemic” so it could continue grabbing more power.
Post by: nddons on August 12, 2022, 07:27:17 AM
Agree although I’m not on board with the fentanyl “emergency”. It’s as easy to avoid as avoiding anal sex, it’s a choice. I wish the right would stop using opioids for fear mongering about the border. They SHOULD use gang violence and sex trafficking. Real victims. Sorry, if you use fentanyl illegally I have trouble feeling sorry for you.I strongly disagree. Fentanyl is cheap to manufacture, but so strong it is being laced into other drugs and sold on the street to make the other drugs more powerful and cheaper to produce. They are also manufactured to look like pain relievers like Oxycodone or stimulants like Adderall.
Absolutely right about monkeypox. It is being used as a political weapon. Just watch, they’ll drop monkeypox as soon as the first case of this new Chinese virus hits the U.S. Then we will get “two weeks to flatten the curve” (and universal mail in ballots mwa haha) all over again.
Any street drug can be laced with this stuff. That’s why so many Wisconsin KIDS are dying from fentanyl. They weren’t knowingly taking fentanyl, but OD’d from it.
Post by: Anthony on August 12, 2022, 07:40:23 AM
I strongly disagree. Fentanyl is cheap to manufacture, but so strong it is being laced into other drugs and sold on the street to make the other drugs more powerful and cheaper to produce. They are also manufactured to look like pain relievers like Oxycodone or stimulants like Adderall.
Any street drug can be laced with this stuff. That’s why so many Wisconsin KIDS are dying from fentanyl. They weren’t knowingly taking fentanyl, but OD’d from it.
I respectfully disagree. I'm tired of the government continually protecting people from their own stupidity. Sorry they're dead, but too damn bad. Get government out of the drug business and stop the power hungry, expensive faux war on drugs.
Post by: Number7 on August 12, 2022, 07:40:49 AM
When the punishment becomes real enough and the border is secured, it will dry up to a manageable level.
Post by: Rush on August 12, 2022, 08:18:30 AM
I strongly disagree. Fentanyl is cheap to manufacture, but so strong it is being laced into other drugs and sold on the street to make the other drugs more powerful and cheaper to produce. They are also manufactured to look like pain relievers like Oxycodone or stimulants like Adderall.
Any street drug can be laced with this stuff. That’s why so many Wisconsin KIDS are dying from fentanyl. They weren’t knowingly taking fentanyl, but OD’d from it.
Fair point. I will amend my statement to say taking any illegal street drug is a choice. But demonizing fentanyl is no more a solution than demonizing guns as the cause of gun deaths. All it does is make it harder for everyone else to get it legally when they need it. There’s nothing dangerous about fentanyl at all if you use it correctly.
It’s just like making getting guns more difficult to get. The criminal users still get them and use them and the law abiding are restricted. You can’t stop the manufacture of illegal drugs any more than you can stop “ghost guns”. But to try only brings more tyranny to the law abiding. See my thread about how hard it was to get tramadol for my mother.
We need to solve the reason kids become addicts in the first place. In the meantime make all drugs legal so that the manufacture is aboveboard and safe. That’s what will stop the unintentional overdoses.
Why are kids resorting to drugs? I think because nature intends teenagers to begin functioning as adults but our society thwarts them. Instead of a Wisconsin boy being forced to sit in high school learning about white privilege and how he is to be blamed for all of society’s problems, a 14 year old should be apprenticing and learning a trade. By 16 he should be earning money. But we keep them in school til 18, all the while telling them their perfectly normal sex drive is something to be ashamed of and any overture to a girl is sexist misogyny at best and criminal harassment at worst, and then we require them to go to college for four years, never beginning to function in any self sufficient way until well into their 20s. To boot, we tell them to major in useless crap so they graduate in debt and flipping burgers with their degree in “art theory for the gender fluid”. This is what boys are being told to look forward to, instead of nurturing their natural drive to work with their hands, be productive and start developing their identity as future provider and protector to a nice female. Don’t dare hope for that! Women don’t want or need you anymore, they’ll get their own career thankyouverymuch and if you do manage to ever have sex with one and she gets pregnant and doesn’t suck it into a sink you can look forward to financial ruin, if you ever manage to get any finances to start with.
Are we really wondering why kids are hopeless these days? Half the time they’ve already been made addicts to ADHD drugs by the time they’re in their teens. And the girls, what girls dream about most is babies, it’s a biological urge, but THAT is squashed real fast. Don’t you dare want a man and a family. That’s patriarchal oppression. Men are toxic, to be avoided at all costs. Unless of course you discover that you yourself are in fact male, and you need to search on the internet how to find a clinic that will start you on hormones and schedule the surgical removal of your budding titties. But whatever you do, do NOT imagine yourself a stay at home mom raising babies, that’s the quintessential definition of evil.
By early teen years both girls and boys are designed by nature to have these drives - for males to work and provide for, for the reward of sex, and females to be protected by someone strong, and snuggle little babies - but today’s culture COMPLETELY denies teens validation of these basic evolutionary instincts. And we wonder why they come apart at the seams and get into drugs.
Stop demonizing an inanimate substance as if it can jump into your veins without your assistance and instead address all the causes of these hopelessly confused and misguided kids resorting to escaping to street drugs.
Post by: nddons on August 12, 2022, 08:52:35 AM
Fair point. I will amend my statement to say taking any illegal street drug is a choice. But demonizing fentanyl is no more a solution than demonizing guns as the cause of gun deaths. All it does is make it harder for everyone else to get it legally when they need it. There’s nothing dangerous about fentanyl at all if you use it correctly.Do t get me started on what we are doing to our boys and girls. You hit on all my points. Boys are being medicated because they are acting like boys. My brother was a Boy Scout Leader for I think 12 years, and at all times he said at least half the troops’s boys were medicated, and as scout leader HE had to administer them. Madness! Some parents look at scouting as a weekend off from having to deal with their autistic son, so my brother then had to deal with their autistic son.
It’s just like making getting guns more difficult to get. The criminal users still get them and use them and the law abiding are restricted. You can’t stop the manufacture of illegal drugs any more than you can stop “ghost guns”. But to try only brings more tyranny to the law abiding. See my thread about how hard it was to get tramadol for my mother.
We need to solve the reason kids become addicts in the first place. In the meantime make all drugs legal so that the manufacture is aboveboard and safe. That’s what will stop the unintentional overdoses.
Why are kids resorting to drugs? I think because nature intends teenagers to begin functioning as adults but our society thwarts them. Instead of a Wisconsin boy being forced to sit in high school learning about white privilege and how he is to be blamed for all of society’s problems, a 14 year old should be apprenticing and learning a trade. By 16 he should be earning money. But we keep them in school til 18, all the while telling them their perfectly normal sex drive is something to be ashamed of and any overture to a girl is sexist misogyny at best and criminal harassment at worst, and then we require them to go to college for four years, never beginning to function in any self sufficient way until well into their 20s. To boot, we tell them to major in useless crap so they graduate in debt and flipping burgers with their degree in “art theory for the gender fluid”. This is what boys are being told to look forward to, instead of nurturing their natural drive to work with their hands, be productive and start developing their identity as future provider and protector to a nice female. Don’t dare hope for that! Women don’t want or need you anymore, they’ll get their own career thankyouverymuch and if you do manage to ever have sex with one and she gets pregnant and doesn’t suck it into a sink you can look forward to financial ruin, if you ever manage to get any finances to start with.
Are we really wondering why kids are hopeless these days? Half the time they’ve already been made addicts to ADHD drugs by the time they’re in their teens. And the girls, what girls dream about most is babies, it’s a biological urge, but THAT is squashed real fast. Don’t you dare want a man and a family. That’s patriarchal oppression. Men are toxic, to be avoided at all costs. Unless of course you discover that you yourself are in fact male, and you need to search on the internet how to find a clinic that will start you on hormones and schedule the surgical removal of your budding titties. But whatever you do, do NOT imagine yourself a stay at home mom raising babies, that’s the quintessential definition of evil.
By early teen years both girls and boys are designed by nature to have these drives - for males to work and provide for, for the reward of sex, and females to be protected by someone strong, and snuggle little babies - but today’s culture COMPLETELY denies teens validation of these basic evolutionary instincts. And we wonder why they come apart at the seams and get into drugs.
Stop demonizing an inanimate substance as if it can jump into your veins without your assistance and instead address all the causes of these hopelessly confused and misguided kids resorting to escaping to street drugs.
We have feminized boys almost to the point of no return. I see football and most sports disappearing in the next 20 years, because boys are either too afraid or too disinterested to participate or push themselves.
Post by: Anthony on August 12, 2022, 11:10:03 AM
Do t get me started on what we are doing to our boys and girls. You hit on all my points. Boys are being medicated because they are acting like boys. My brother was a Boy Scout Leader for I think 12 years, and at all times he said at least half the troops’s boys were medicated, and as scout leader HE had to administer them. Madness! Some parents look at scouting as a weekend off from having to deal with their autistic son, so my brother then had to deal with their autistic son.
We have feminized boys almost to the point of no return. I see football and most sports disappearing in the next 20 years, because boys are either too afraid or too disinterested to participate or push themselves.
It's criminal what our society has done to boys, especially Education, MEDIA, Entertainment and Government.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 14, 2022, 10:35:00 AM
https://apnews.com/article/health-new-york-city-wastewater-climate-and-environment-8df014e9b38a70606c04234492bb3fb4
and so it continues...
Post by: Rush on August 14, 2022, 11:08:09 AM
AP has an article about Polio detected in New York sewage...
https://apnews.com/article/health-new-york-city-wastewater-climate-and-environment-8df014e9b38a70606c04234492bb3fb4
and so it continues...
What's missing from that report? Polio is a disease of the third world, of places with inferior sanitation. The polio vaccine was only one part of why we got rid of polio in the U.S., the other part was greatly improved sanitation.
So I want to know what part of NYC sewage is this virus showing up? Any particular community? Like for example, around a bunch of illegal aliens who are not vaccinated?
Or maybe immigrants, legal or otherwise, from say Eastern Europe, who have had the OPV which can transmit and shed live virus. We don't use the OPV in the U.S. anymore but people can come here who have recently gotten it.
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 14, 2022, 11:53:23 AM
AP has an article about Polio detected in New York sewage...
https://apnews.com/article/health-new-york-city-wastewater-climate-and-environment-8df014e9b38a70606c04234492bb3fb4
and so it continues...
Sigh. AP news left out the important detail that the outbreak appears to be primarily within the Orthodox Jewish community which has much lower rates of polio vaccination. Try this more informative article instead:
https://www.jta.org/2022/08/12/ny/polio-detected-in-nyc-wastewater-as-data-reveals-heavily-orthodox-williamsburg-is-vulnerable (https://www.jta.org/2022/08/12/ny/polio-detected-in-nyc-wastewater-as-data-reveals-heavily-orthodox-williamsburg-is-vulnerable)
Post by: Rush on August 14, 2022, 01:20:13 PM
Sigh. AP news left out the important detail that the outbreak appears to be primarily within the Orthodox Jewish community which has much lower rates of polio vaccination. Try this more informative article instead:
https://www.jta.org/2022/08/12/ny/polio-detected-in-nyc-wastewater-as-data-reveals-heavily-orthodox-williamsburg-is-vulnerable (https://www.jta.org/2022/08/12/ny/polio-detected-in-nyc-wastewater-as-data-reveals-heavily-orthodox-williamsburg-is-vulnerable)
There ya go. And there has been exactly one case. Lock down the whole nation! Universal mail in ballots!! !!
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2022, 04:03:31 PM
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Since the outset of the global monkeypox outbreak in May, public health and infectious disease experts have told the public that the virus is largely transmitting through skin-to-skin contact, in particular during sex between men.
Now, however, an expanding cadre of experts has come to believe that sex between men itself — both anal as well as oral intercourse — is likely the main driver of global monkeypox transmission. The skin contact that comes with sex, these experts say, is probably much less of a risk factor.
In recent weeks, a growing body of scientific evidence — including a trio of studies published in peer-reviewed journals, as well as reports from national, regional and global health authorities — has suggested that experts may have framed monkeypox’s typical transmission route precisely backward.
Reconceiving the primary risk factors for transmission is crucial because of how it may affect guidance on reducing the risk of infection, including the question of whether demanding that people with the virus self-isolate has any substantial impact on transmission.
“A growing body of evidence supports that sexual transmission, particularly through seminal fluids, is occurring with the current MPX outbreak,” said Dr. Aniruddha Hazra, medical director of the University of Chicago Sexual Wellness Clinic, referring to monkeypox and to recent studies that found the virus in semen.
Consequently, scientists told NBC News that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other public health authorities should update their monkeypox communication strategies to more strongly emphasize the centrality of intercourse among gay and bisexual men, who comprise nearly all U.S. cases, to the virus’ spread.
On Aug. 14, Dr. Jeffrey Klausner, an infectious disease physician at the University of Southern California, and Dr. Lao-Tzu Allan-Blitz, a resident physician in global health at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, published an essay on Medium in which they reviewed the science supporting the argument that during the current outbreak, monkeypox is largely transmitting through anal and oral intercourse between men.
“It looks very clear to us that this is an infection that is transmitting sexually the vast majority of the time,” Allan-Blitz said.
This debate, however, is far from settled.
Dr. Rosamund Lewis, technical lead for monkeypox at the World Health Organization, told NBC News it was “unfortunate but true” that “we don’t know yet” whether the virus is predominantly transmitted through intercourse.
“Completely reading the situation as uniquely due to anal or oral sex is highly likely to be overreach,” she said. “The correlation may appear to be strong, but that does not explain the whole picture of disease caused by this virus. So we need to keep an open mind.”
Some experts in infectious disease see evidence supporting the argument that monkeypox at least transmits more readily through intercourse.
“At this point,” said Dr. Paul Adamson, an infectious disease specialist at the UCLA School of Medicine, “I’m not sure we can say it is primarily the sexual transmission and not the skin-to-skin contact that also occurs during sex that is contributing to the most transmission during this current outbreak. However, emerging data seem to suggest that monkeypox might be more efficiently transmitted sexually.”
Parsing the evidence
In an interview, Klausner, who has submitted a version of his and Allan-Blitz’s essay to a scientific journal for publication, distilled the evidence that he said supports the hypothesis that sex itself fuels the global outbreak into four major points.
First, he noted that, according to the WHO, more than three quarters of global monkeypox cases are among men 18 to 44 years old. This is a typical age breakdown for diagnoses of sexually transmitted infections among gay and bisexual men, he said. What’s more, in recent studies of pooled monkeypox cases among this demographic, 17% to 32% of those diagnosed with the virus received a sexually transmitted infection (STI) diagnosis at the same time.
Second, during the global outbreak, atypical to what has historically been seen in the 11 African nations where the virus has become endemic since first being identified in humans in 1970, monkeypox lesions have in the majority of cases occurred in men’s genital and anorectal areas. This, experts told NBC News, suggests that these were the sites where the virus first passed into the body.
In a study of 197 monkeypox cases in London men published July 28 in The BMJ, the British Medical Association’s journal, researchers found that 56% had lesions in the genital area and 42% had them in their anorectal regions. And in a study published July 21 in The New England Journal of Medicine, a global team of researchers pooled 538 monkeypox cases — also all in men — from around the world and found that 73% had lesions in the genital or anorectal areas.
Third, researchers have found monkeypox in semen and have been able to culture that virus, which suggests it could transmit through ejaculation. Also, the authors of two recent studies have detected the virus after taking anal swabs among men who had monkeypox but were asymptomatic, which indicates that the virus might transmit from the anorectal area during anal intercourse before people develop symptoms. Experts say more research is needed on both these fronts.
Referring to bodily fluids such as semen, vaginal fluids and blood, the WHO’s Lewis said, “Research is underway to find out more about whether people can spread monkeypox through the exchange of these fluids during and after symptomatic infection.”
Finally, Klausner noted that scientists have identified an association between specific sexual acts and the location of monkeypox lesions.