PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on August 04, 2022, 08:08:45 PM
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I'm watching the news people chatting about how ugly the communist cunt running for Arizona governor behaved trying to steal the primary for a swamp friendly RINO.
I don't think her campaign is going to go well as she faces angry Arizona citizens that know how fucking corrupt she and her pose of scum bags are.
Something tells me that she will be indicted shortly after Kari Lake is sworn in as governor.
Oh, and... fuck katie hobbs... I hope she enjoys prison.
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I see that Kari Lake won EVERY county in Arizona, once the eyes of the true conservatives
were turned on the scam perpetrated by the communist democrats.
Seriously, it's like Pennsylvania all over again.
Once President Trump was over a million votes ahead in PA, they stopped counting and went out
and manufactured fake votes to overcome the 'stupid' citizens who voted against the wishes of the elite communist democrats.
Only they decided to manufacture the votes ahead of time to avoid detection and FAILED... because they are a bunch fucking communist democrats, not humans.
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Does somebody smarter than me want to listen to this guy - I know it's painful - and tell me what he is trying to say? It seems to me he is saying the RINOs should win all the primaries because the Trump endorsed candidates are going to lose against the Dems in Nov.
What he says about the Dems backing the "more right" candidate thinking they're less likely to win in November might be true, but is it true that in fact they'll lose against the Dems?
He talks a million miles an hour and throws out all these names and I confess I'm not following all the races so not sure what he is trying to say but I THINK he is trying to say that we should not back Trump endorsed candidates because that means we will lose in November and he is saying now that it's possible we will LOSE the Senate! According to one prediction model. I can believe that, but I don't know if it's because we are electing MAGA candidates or if it's because the Republicans are going apeshit over abortion or some other reason.
I put this in this thread because he mentions Kari Lake and I think he thinks she shouldn't have won? Is he that bad a never Trumper? He seems to be saying we are idiots for voting for someone unknown just because Trump endorses them. He might have a point, or is he way off base?
I don't (can't) listen to too many of his videos. They give me migraines and seizures. The doppler effect of the verbal onslaught screws up my brain waves.
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I'm pretty sure that he is referring to Arizona communists defeating Sheriff Joe a few years ago, which I suppose
was all about fraud, as it seems the communist democrat party has a habit of fraud, lies, violence, racism and intolerance.
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Ugh. Here, Styx seems to be saying the exact same thing Shapiro is saying only in reverse! Shapiro says voting in all these MAGA people will lose the midterms to the Dems. Styx is saying voting in hard right conservatives will lose the midterms.
BOTH say you need to strategically run the one who will defeat the Dems, but disagree on if that is the establishment conservative or the populist.
I agree with what Styx says about the right’s extreme reaction to the left’s extreme reaction on the abortion issue. I was afraid this would happen when they reversed RvW. The GOP is going to fucking lose the Senate now.
https://rumble.com/v1f2avd-will-the-gop-snatch-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory-as-the-generic-polls-ti.html
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I can’t stomach Shapiro. He’s nauseating to listen too, and thinks he’s incredibly intelligent.
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I can’t stomach Shapiro. He’s nauseating to listen too, and thinks he’s incredibly intelligent.
Agreed, but he says the right things, typically.
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Agreed, but he says the right things, typically.
He’s often wrong.
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He’s often wrong.
Don't know as I don't listen to him much. I trust your judgment, however.
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Don't know as I don't listen to him much. I trust your judgment, however.
Lucifer will lead you to hell. Repent now!
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Lucifer will lead you to hell. Repent now!
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Lol Jim! Yeah, hope it's not too bad since the parameters of the girl I'm dating may send me there. At least I'll be in good company??? ;D
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Agreed, but he says the right things, typically.
He’s often wrong.
I agree. With both of you. He isn’t a Democrat so that’s good, and sometimes is spot on with criticism of the left, Biden, etc. especially wokeness, so that’s why I put up with listening to him at times, but I don’t always agree with him. He strikes me as a traditional establishment conservative Republican and that’s not me. I’m a classical liberal, or libertarian, or constitutionalist, and I throw in with populism (MAGA) for now, which is a large wing of the Republican Party, but I don’t see Shapiro representing that. I have yet to hear him say something supportive of Trump but maybe I missed it.
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The good thing about Shapiro is his college campus speeches. He skewers the overwhelming wokeness found therein.
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Ugh. Here, Styx seems to be saying the exact same thing Shapiro is saying only in reverse! Shapiro says voting in all these MAGA people will lose the midterms to the Dems. Styx is saying voting in hard right conservatives will lose the midterms.
BOTH say you need to strategically run the one who will defeat the Dems, but disagree on if that is the establishment conservative or the populist.
I agree with what Styx says about the right’s extreme reaction to the left’s extreme reaction on the abortion issue. I was afraid this would happen when they reversed RvW. The GOP is going to fucking lose the Senate now.
https://rumble.com/v1f2avd-will-the-gop-snatch-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victory-as-the-generic-polls-ti.html
I listen to Shapiro several times a week, and I’ve never gotten the impression that he was advising not to vote for these MAGA candidates in the primaries.
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He’s often wrong.
I don’t see that either. I think he is smart, though he’s fatiguing to listen to because he talks so fast.
There’s no question that he’s not pro-Trump, but at this point I would not back Trump in a primary either, for the reasons that I’ve said many times.
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I listen to Shapiro several times a week, and I’ve never gotten the impression that he was advising not to vote for these MAGA candidates in the primaries.
Did you watch that big long video I posted in reply #2? I think that’s what he’s saying. But I’m not at all sure. It’s very hard for me to follow him because he talks so fast and he’s saying all these names I haven’t kept up with so I don’t know who is MAGA and who isn’t, so I might be misunderstanding the whole thing. I guess I’ll have to listen to it again.
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Did you watch that big long video I posted in reply #2? I think that’s what he’s saying. But I’m not at all sure. It’s very hard for me to follow him because he talks so fast and he’s saying all these names I haven’t kept up with so I don’t know who is MAGA and who isn’t, so I might be misunderstanding the whole thing. I guess I’ll have to listen to it again.
Sorry, nothing pops up on that post in Tapatalk. I’ll have to look at PS tonight on my computer and I’ll report back.
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Sorry, nothing pops up on that post in Tapatalk. I’ll have to look at PS tonight on my computer and I’ll report back.
That thing is 48 minutes long so I don’t blame you if you don’t want to listen to it. For example he says Liz Cheney will lose the primary because she voted to impeach Trump but then as a result they will lose to the Democrat in November. Shapiro SEEMS to not like that, like he thinks it would be better to keep the seat Republican even if it is Liz Cheney.
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That thing is 48 minutes long so I don’t blame you if you don’t want to listen to it. For example he says Liz Cheney will lose the primary because she voted to impeach Trump but then as a result they will lose to the Democrat in November. Shapiro SEEMS to not like that, like he thinks it would be better to keep the seat Republican even if it is Liz Cheney.
That’s illogical. My understanding is that Wyoming is SO Republican, the winner of the primary will be the new house member, because there aren’t enough democrats to ever win that single WY house seat.
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That’s illogical. My understanding is that Wyoming is SO Republican, the winner of the primary will be the new house member, because there aren’t enough democrats to ever win that single WY house seat.
And that's why Wyoming or South Dakota will be my next home.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1588246898942521344
It's getting crazy out in Arizona.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1588246898942521344
It's getting crazy out in Arizona.
Haha! Wow. I want her for Prez.
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https://mikeonline.com/kari-lake-has-a-brilliant-response-to-a-reporter-who-asks-her-about-the-latest-democrat-attack-ads-against-her/
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Haha! Wow. I want her for Prez.
Ditto.
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Kari Lake has lost her bid for Governor of Arizona. Katie Hobbs is the projected winner.
I foresee potential for legal action in this race with all the shit that went on with the tabulators and ballots. Let's not forget that Katie Hobbs was the Secretary of State in charge of the election.
The Republican won the State Treasurer's race. Go take a look at how many votes he won by and compare that to the Governor race totals.
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Kari Lake has lost her bid for Governor of Arizona. Katie Hobbs is the projected winner.
I foresee potential for legal action in this race with all the shit that went on with the tabulators and ballots. Let's not forget that Katie Hobbs was the Secretary of State in charge of the election.
The Republican won the State Treasurer's race. Go take a look at how many votes he won by and compare that to the Governor race totals.
I agree. I think Kari Lake won’t take this sitting down. Fuck!!!!!!!!!
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I agree. I think Kari Lake won’t take this sitting down. Fuck!!!!!!!!!
And what can she do?
The republicans won't give her any support. The dims are antsy wanting her to call a rally or protest at the AZ capitol or Maricopa Co.
The media is dragging her through the gutter. So what options does she have?
This, along with PA, GA, CA and MI, as well as a few other states is why republicans will not win national office anymore.
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And what can she do?
The republicans won't give her any support. The dims are antsy wanting her to call a rally or protest at the AZ capitol or Maricopa Co.
The media is dragging her through the gutter. So what options does she have?
This, along with PA, GA, CA and MI, as well as a few other states is why republicans will not win national office anymore.
Becky’s little voice cries, “Shitcan the GOP for good! The new Patriot Party welcomes you!”
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Kari Lake has lost her bid for Governor of Arizona. Katie Hobbs is the projected winner.
I foresee potential for legal action in this race with all the shit that went on with the tabulators and ballots. Let's not forget that Katie Hobbs was the Secretary of State in charge of the election.
The Republican won the State Treasurer's race. Go take a look at how many votes he won by and compare that to the Governor race totals.
Yes, nothing suspicious there at all. Move right along.
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Yep. DeSantis looks special because he won so big but the reason he won so big is FL elections are so secure. Many other MAGA candidates including Lake would have won just as big. The polls showed a red tsunami and they were not wrong.
Don’t listen to the lying media that says the losing MAGA candidates lost because the people don’t want them. Although it’s also true the GOP abandoned them.
This is a concerted effort between the Dems and the GOP to prevent any MAGA swamp drainers to gain power. We are a threat to the uniparty tyrants.
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Yep. DeSantis looks special because he won so big but the reason he won so big is FL elections are so secure. Many other MAGA candidates including Lake would have won just as big. The polls showed a red tsunami and they were not wrong.
Don’t listen to the lying media that says the losing MAGA candidates lost because the people don’t want them. Although it’s also true the GOP abandoned them.
This is a concerted effort between the Dems and the GOP to prevent any MAGA swamp drainers to gain power. We are a threat to the uniparty tyrants.
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THIS!!
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Yep. DeSantis looks special because he won so big but the reason he won so big is FL elections are so secure. Many other MAGA candidates including Lake would have won just as big. The polls showed a red tsunami and they were not wrong.
Don’t listen to the lying media that says the losing MAGA candidates lost because the people don’t want them. Although it’s also true the GOP abandoned them.
This is a concerted effort between the Dems and the GOP to prevent any MAGA swamp drainers to gain power. We are a threat to the uniparty tyrants.
Truth. Our enemies are NOT hidden.
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It would he funny if the consequences weren't so severe.
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Even if there is no fraud, and it’s just incompetence, the extreme hubris of these people. They want us to know (or think) they are cheating to win, that they’ll do anything to win, that they are in power and we can’t do anything about it. They want us to just submit. For the candidate herself to be in charge of the election, to be refusing to allow republican watchers in to observe the count, to openly show all these signs of secretive fraud, whether it exists or not, is a strong sign that they are confident in their position.
That has got to change. We have GOT to fight these people (I’m speaking metaphorically, through legal avenues, FBI spies, so fuck the hell off).
It’s technically possible Hobbs actually won because large numbers of 18 - 29 year olds came out to vote thinking they’ll get student loan debt forgiveness and they’re too stupid to know Biden can’t unilaterally do that and it appears to be dead, and the Dems knew all along it wouldn’t happen, and they deliberately lied to you just to get your vote.
It’s also possible they cared about abortion for which I hold both the right and left equally responsible because both sides went to the extreme and now nobody is happy. Should have left RvW the fuck alone. The Republicans just don’t get that the majority of voters don’t want complete total ban on abortion from the moment of conception or even before and the Democrats just don’t get that the majority of voters don’t want abortion legal up to the moment of birth or even after.
The idiot youth don’t grasp that revoking RvW only sends it back to the states, it’s not a federal abortion ban, and that’s the demographic that wants to fuck with no consequences.
So it’s possible we underestimated the impact of Dobbs on the election. I blame SCOTUS: yet another instance of conservatives shooting themselves in the foot. They drag their feet on cases all the time, why the hell couldn’t they have put off that ruling until after the midterms? They take that case and rule on it giving the left a gift for the midterms and reject the 2020 election fraud case because they’re intimidated by snot nosed brats rioting in the street? You’d think it was SCOTUS’s mission to keep the Dems in power the way they’ve been acting. That’s our new and improved conservative SC for you.
Which is it? Rule based only on the law? Or rule based on other considerations which you’re not supposed to do? They do it one way one time and the other way the other time and BOTH benefit the Democrats. If you’re going to abandon your principles can’t you at least do it in the direction of the Republicans once in a while? Or are you too scared of rioters showing up at your home? Then just admit it, you, the SCOTUS, have become one more weaponized arm of the Federal government in service to the ruling party against any empowerment of The People.
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And what can she do?
The republicans won't give her any support. The dims are antsy wanting her to call a rally or protest at the AZ capitol or Maricopa Co.
The media is dragging her through the gutter. So what options does she have?
This, along with PA, GA, CA and MI, as well as a few other states is why republicans will not win national office anymore.
I believe it’s in recount territory for whatever that’s worth.
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It would he funny if the consequences weren't so severe.
Exactly.
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Even if there is no fraud, and it’s just incompetence, the extreme hubris of these people. They want us to know (or think) they are cheating to win, that they’ll do anything to win, that they are in power and we can’t do anything about it. They want us to just submit. For the candidate herself to be in charge of the election, to be refusing to allow republican watchers in to observe the count, to openly show all these signs of secretive fraud, whether it exists or not, is a strong sign that they are confident in their position.
That has got to change. We have GOT to fight these people (I’m speaking metaphorically, through legal avenues, FBI spies, so fuck the hell off).
It’s technically possible Hobbs actually won because large numbers of 18 - 29 year olds came out to vote thinking they’ll get student loan debt forgiveness and they’re too stupid to know Biden can’t unilaterally do that and it appears to be dead, and the Dems knew all along it wouldn’t happen, and they deliberately lied to you just to get your vote.
It’s also possible they cared about abortion for which I hold both the right and left equally responsible because both sides went to the extreme and now nobody is happy. Should have left RvW the fuck alone. The Republicans just don’t get that the majority of voters don’t want complete total ban on abortion from the moment of conception or even before and the Democrats just don’t get that the majority of voters don’t want abortion legal up to the moment of birth or even after.
The idiot youth don’t grasp that revoking RvW only sends it back to the states, it’s not a federal abortion ban, and that’s the demographic that wants to fuck with no consequences.
So it’s possible we underestimated the impact of Dobbs on the election. I blame SCOTUS: yet another instance of conservatives shooting themselves in the foot. They drag their feet on cases all the time, why the hell couldn’t they have put off that ruling until after the midterms? They take that case and rule on it giving the left a gift for the midterms and reject the 2020 election fraud case because they’re intimidated by snot nosed brats rioting in the street? You’d think it was SCOTUS’s mission to keep the Dems in power the way they’ve been acting. That’s our new and improved conservative SC for you.
Which is it? Rule based only on the law? Or rule based on other considerations which you’re not supposed to do? They do it one way one time and the other way the other time and BOTH benefit the Democrats. If you’re going to abandon your principles can’t you at least do it in the direction of the Republicans once in a while? Or are you too scared of rioters showing up at your home? Then just admit it, you, the SCOTUS, have become one more weaponized arm of the Federal government in service to the ruling party against any empowerment of The People.
I agree with this 100%.
In some cases, states are doing this without legal authorization. Election boards we’re making their own decisions. In Wisconsin some things like drop boxes were shut down by the courts, but much more needs to be done.
In most other cases, I think these new voting method have been baked into the law, and I’m not sure we can go backwards. So Republicans need to figure out how WE can go canvas assisted living homes, college dorms, etc., how WE can play the early and Mail-in voting game, how WE can be as tenacious as the democrats, how WE can be the poll counters, etc. maybe WE can come up with a better plan on making voting over Sat-Tues vs 2 weeks or 4 weeks or 2 months.
All politics is local, and that’s where this has to start.
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I agree with this 100%.
In some cases, states are doing this without legal authorization. Election boards we’re making their own decisions. In Wisconsin some things like drop boxes were shut down by the courts, but much more needs to be done.
In most other cases, I think these new voting method have been baked into the law, and I’m not sure we can go backwards. So Republicans need to figure out how WE can go canvas assisted living homes, college dorms, etc., how WE can play the early and Mail-in voting game, how WE can be as tenacious as the democrats, how WE can be the poll counters, etc. maybe WE can come up with a better plan on making voting over Sat-Tues vs 2 weeks or 4 weeks or 2 months.
All politics is local, and that’s where this has to start.
The Genie was let out of the bottle with Covid. All of a sudden universal mail in voting is a "right". Lockdowns and remote working has taught everyone to expect to stay home if they want, can't be inconvenienced to go anywhere. We can't unring that bell. It's going to be extremely hard to fix if it even can be done.
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So Republicans need to figure out how WE can go canvas assisted living homes, college dorms, etc.,
How are Republicans going to compete on college campus's against abortion on demand for college girls that want sex without repercussion, or with promises of free tuition. Even if the free tuition never happens, that will be blamed on the Rs.
And how are Rs going to compete in ALFs when they are spending all their time trying to explain they are not really trying to end SS and Medicare.
Rs need to learn how to develop a message and then how to sell it. Newt's "contract with America" comes to mind.
The Rs message sounds like "we have ours, and we aren't giving it away". That ISN"T the message, but that is how it sounds.
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How are Republicans going to compete on college campus's against abortion on demand for college girls that want sex without repercussion, or with promises of free tuition. Even if the free tuition never happens, that will be blamed on the Rs.
And how are Rs going to compete in ALFs when they are spending all their time trying to explain they are not really trying to end SS and Medicare.
Rs need to learn how to develop a message and then how to sell it. Newt's "contract with America" comes to mind.
The Rs message sounds like "we have ours, and we aren't giving it away". That ISN"T the message, but that is how it sounds.
We have ours and aren’t giving it away? What the hell are you talking about? If that’s what you think they sound like, then you have the “party of the rich” ringing in your head from 1980. No one is doing that now that the wealth is mostly on the far left.
In politics parties and candidates used to work hard to explain their position and brings people to their side. That needs to happen again. Fast.
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We have ours and aren’t giving it away? What the hell are you talking about? If that’s what you think they sound like, then you have the “party of the rich” ringing in your head from 1980. No one is doing that now that the wealth is mostly on the far left.
did you see the part where I said:
That ISN"T the message, but that is how it sounds.
In politics parties and candidates used to work hard to explain their position and brings people to their side. That needs to happen again. Fast.
That is EXACTLY what I said.
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Kari Lake has to get within 0.5% to trigger a recount in Arizona. She is currently at 0.6%. Anyone placing bets on that happening? The State Attorney General race is statistically tied which will trigger a recount.
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Nope. The longer they count votes, the bigger the lead for the left. That's how they cheat and steal the elections.
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By delaying counting (something they learned from PA in 2020) it was easy to figure out just how many fake votes the communist party (democrats) had to manufacture.
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By delaying counting (something they learned from PA in 2020) it was easy to figure out just how many fake votes the communist party (democrats) had to manufacture.
THIS.
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At least two counties and Cochise are declining to certify the election, other counties may follow.
Currently, looks like the Democrats have successfully stopped an effort at a hand recount in Cochise County.
https://theparadise.ng/arizona-county-will-delay-certification-of-2022-election-results-after-court-halts-full-hand-recount/
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The Democrats found enough votes now to beat the Republican Attorney General candidate.
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AZ is a corrupt mess.
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https://dailycaller.com/2022/11/21/maricopa-maricopa-tabulator-ballot-memo/?s=35
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Every time I see this thread title I get excited then let down again.
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Every time I see this thread title I get excited then let down again.
Sorry
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Sorry
It’s not your fault.
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If so many Republicans hadn't dropped dead from Covid because they'd not get vaccinated or wear masks perhaps Republican candidates might have won a few more races. Imagine all that misinformation biting Republicans squarely on the ass!!!
I urge Republicans of all stripes to listen to the misinformation, don't get vaccinated, and by all means go out into large throngs of like mined people!
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If so many Republicans hadn't dropped dead from Covid because they'd not get vaccinated or wear masks perhaps Republican candidates might have won a few more races. Imagine all that misinformation biting Republicans squarely on the ass!!!
I urge Republicans of all stripes to listen to the misinformation, don't get vaccinated, and by all means go out into large throngs of like mined people!
Please cite a credible source showing the political affliation of those that are listed as dying because of covid and who were not vaccinated or did not wear masks.
I realize that being dead doesn't stop democrats from voting...
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Please cite a credible source showing the political affliation of those that are listed as dying because of covid and who were not vaccinated or did not wear masks.
I realize that being dead doesn't stop democrats from voting...
You’re right, Steingar has a point. All the Republicans that died ended up voting Democrat by mail in ballot.
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I saw a bumper sticker today:
“Lord, when I die, please don’t let me vote Democrat”.
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I saw a truck bumper sticker that said “Please don’t steal my tools. I have to pay your benefits.”
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We have a friend who had dicey brain surgery that had the potential to change his personality. He told his wife, “If I turn into a liberal just turn me loose up at Goat Rocks (Mt. Rainier National Park) in the dead of winter.”
He came through fine, thankfully.
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But back to thread topic.
https://twitter.com/karilake/status/1594770831069937666
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If so many Republicans hadn't dropped dead from Covid because they'd not get vaccinated or wear masks perhaps Republican candidates might have won a few more races. Imagine all that misinformation biting Republicans squarely on the ass!!!
I urge Republicans of all stripes to listen to the misinformation, don't get vaccinated, and by all means go out into large throngs of like mined people!
On another drinking binge we see……
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Mikey never stops trying to convince us that he is an idiot.
Poor guy is proud of praying for people to get sick and die just to assuage his ego.
What a moron.
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Maroon.
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He's just trolling guys. Ignore him.
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Up to four counties now....
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He's just trolling guys. Ignore him.
And doing a poor job at that. It’s really demeaning and effeminate when a man acts like a Karen.
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And doing a poor job at that. It’s really demeaning and effeminate when a man acts like a Karen.
He takes it as a compliment when reasonable people insult him. He's just looking for responses.
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This is where we are with regard to election integrity. Supervisor threatened with arrest unless he certifies the election.
https://gab.com/MichaelSuede2/posts/109424188529335452
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/corrupt-results-arizonas-maricopa-county-make-no-sense/
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Update from Kari Lake.
https://twitter.com/karilake/status/1597390350171000832
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Add this....
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Add this....
What felony?
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What felony?
I have no idea
My real question is, why did none of these people stand up for what they believe and vote against certifying?
Strong arm tactics seem to be at play here.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1597390350171000832
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https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1597343089898950657?s=20&t=8kEKv2gPwWUymcysFv7tHA
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I have no idea
My real question is, why did none of these people stand up for what they believe and vote against certifying?
Strong arm tactics seem to be at play here.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1597390350171000832
I have been convinced since 2020 that strong arm tactics are heavily used by the left. They found out that it works so continue to do it. We don’t hear much about it because the media has no problem with it. The end justifies the means.
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I have no idea
My real question is, why did none of these people stand up for what they believe and vote against certifying?
Strong arm tactics seem to be at play here.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1597390350171000832
What’s the point of taking a vote if it’s not possible to vote no?
Mao could take lessons from Arizona.
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I would think we the citizenry would instantly be exempt from having to obey ANY laws made or enforced by the people who shoehorn themselves without due process into positions of authority. This is all starting to sound ominously like Revolutionary War fodder.
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Just in......
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Just in......
The court allowed:
* 50 random ballots cast on Election Day from six selected vote centers in Maricopa County
* 50 random early ballots from six separate Maricopa County batches
* 50 random ballots cast on Election Day that were marked "spoiled" from six selected vote centers in Maricopa County.
I hope that means a total of 900 ballots and not 150. The sampling of 900 is already small while 150 would be pathetic. For the purposes of establishing soundness the ballots shouldn't be treated as precious paintings fit only for the eyes of royalty.