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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: PeterNSteinmetz on August 16, 2022, 09:57:14 AM

Title: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on August 16, 2022, 09:57:14 AM
(Cross posted from my MeWe account)

The main thesis of the book "3 Felonies A Day" (https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent-ebook/dp/B00505UZ4G/) is that given the huge number of Federal laws and regulations which have been criminalized, that any person performing a serious function in society is arguably committing 3 felonies each day. Some of them very obscure and hard to even know. And thus if the prosecutors want to get you, they can. If not convict, they can make your life hell for a long time.

If we take this thesis seriously it would seem to imply that they can likely convict Trump of something. I think this is a sad state of affairs generally for all citizens of course and don't support it. But it is a result of many policies promoted by both major political parties.

So what will happen if Trump is convicted and sentenced? Will people finally realize that we live in police state lite and say enough is enough and rise up to bring an end to this, by force of arms if necessary?

Somehow I don't suspect that will happen. A fair fraction of the population hate Trump and will think he is getting what he deserves and even got off easy. In that case, I suppose the best that could happen is some future legislation which starts to peel back this excessive Federal government's police powers. What may be more likely is not that, but that a future President of very conservative nature pardons him.

Given how long these cases can drag on, I would not be surprised to see the adjudication of this case drag out way after 2024. I suppose Trump could even run for President while under indictment.

In terms of the searches and warrants and property. I also expect that to drag on and on. Trump has claimed that there are privileged materials involved. That means they will now appoint a separate filter team to go through everything for privilege, before passing it on to the normal investigation team. That will take a long time. After that the investigators will want to look through everything in detail to see if they can find evidence of one of the 3 felonies a day he likely committed. Then there will be charges. Then negotiations. Then maybe a trial. Then sentencing. Then appeal. After all that, he might get his property back.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 10:18:17 AM
The clowns in the DoJ and FBI didn't deploy a "Taint Team" to look at the material before the agents took it.

This is SOP for a raid, and they have dropped the ball big time.  This was a catastrophic move by the DoJ/FBI, and will come back on them (at least it should).

This raid was absolute bullshit, unconstitutional and illegal in every sense of the word.    Total banana republic crap brought to you by the faux president.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on August 16, 2022, 10:42:32 AM
Is that true about a "taint team"? Certainly the raids that I know of did not have one on site. And a quick search on this shows most discussions being about the taint team being appointed later.

I think their strategy in these is to seize everything for which they have the least cause, then sort it out later at leisure. Like months and months of leisure.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2022, 10:43:15 AM
The corrupt doj and criminal fbi have no interest in what is lawful, any more than communists (democrats) care what is constitutional.

The clintons were the first demoncrats that seems to despise inconvenient laws. After the two person criminal syndicate demoncrats all seems to flow towards ignoring the law in favor of whatever they wanted, instead.

The current doj and Justice departments are run by outright traitors and those traitors should be indicted, convicted and executed, along with those in higher office that have been facilitating their treason.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 11:11:27 AM
Is that true about a "taint team"? Certainly the raids that I know of did not have one on site.

Did the raids "you know of" involve high profile government officials?   And how were you briefed on these raids?


And a quick search on this shows most discussions being about the taint team being appointed later.

  When involving client/attorney privilege or in the case of Trump, executive privilege, you cannot have LEO going through random papers and reading them, then turning them over to another team to have them declared CA privilege or executive privilege.  Therein lies the "taint" once those documents are exposed.


I think their strategy in these is to seize everything for which they have the least cause, then sort it out later at leisure. Like months and months of leisure.

  Strategy???   Seriously??   Think the fourth amendment comes into play here?   Do we actually have a justice system that will sign off a warrant for a fishing expedition???

 Just imagine a judge signing a warrant for the police (or FBI) to go kick down your door and ransack your home for anything that could possibly be connected to a crime. 

 There's a reason they want the affidavits kept sealed.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Username on August 16, 2022, 11:16:50 AM
This three felonies is how they get you to flip on someone.  "Process crimes" like lying to the police is a felony.  They interrogate you for 10 hours and record every word.  After a while your mind gets muddled and they got you.  You contradict yourself because you're tired and muddled.  A contradiction means at least one of those statements is a lie.  So flip on your friend or we put you away for this felony or another.  Police state tactics.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2022, 11:19:49 AM
This three felonies is how they get you to flip on someone.  "Process crimes" like lying to the police is a felony.  They interrogate you for 10 hours and record every word.  After a while your mind gets muddled and they got you.  You contradict yourself because you're tired and muddled.  A contradiction means at least one of those statements is a lie.  So flip on your friend or we put you away for this felony or another.  Police state tactics.

This.  ^^^^ And this is why you don’t talk to them, other than “I want my lawyer”.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 11:26:46 AM
So the creeps in the Biden Regime want to bypass the laws and get attorney/client privileged information as well as executive privileged information.

Simple.  Concoct a warrant based on useless information, and send in the FBI to ransack.  Then, after they've had a chance to conveniently read these docs they otherwise have no rights to, they simply give them back.....oh, after having a late to the party special master look at them.

 This is why this banana republic crap needs to be stopped NOW.   This sets a very dangerous precedent.   



https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/doj-admits-it-took-trumps-passports-offers-return-them

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hree passports, Privileged documents. A file on a presidential pardon. As evidence surfaces about what FBI agents seized during the raid of former President Donald Trump's estate in Mar-a-Lago, new questions about the real focus of the investigation and new avenues for legal challenges are bubbling to the surface.

The Justice Department informed Trump's team Monday that agents gathered the former president's passports and are obligated to return them, and that officials are also reviewing seized materials that may be covered by various privileges, multiple sources told Just the News.

DOJ has designated a process for separating materials that could be covered by executive privilege or attorney client privilege and hopes to return such memos to Trump within a couple of weeks, the sources said.

"Occasionally a warrant collection can grab things outside the scope authorized by the court and the department is now following a procedure we would for any person affected this way," one official said Monday night.

Kevin Brock, who served as FBI assistant director for intelligence under former Director Robert Mueller, said the new revelations raise legitimate questions about over-collection of evidence that could lead to significant legal challenges. Trump lawyers are weighing whether to ask a federal court to name a special master to review sensitive documents and protect the president's 4th amendment, executive and attorney-client privileges.

"Trump's attorneys could have a runway to argue the scope of the search is overly broad," Brock told Just the News. "Search warrants normally require a level of specificity that seems to be missing in this warrant. Specificity is important in order to protect 4th Amendment rights from exuberant government overreach designed to find whatever they can."

Brock said he was particularly troubled FBI agents felt comfortable seizing a record of Trump's pardon of longtime friend Roger Stone, which the bureau disclosed in court documents. He said it suggested the raid may have something more to do with the Jan. 6 Capitol riot probe, where Stone has been a figure of interest, than an investigation into classified records.

"The president’s authority to grant pardon and clemency is clear but what isn’t clear is why the retention of a clemency order would be considered illegal," Brock said  "The fact that it is highlighted on the receipt list, and that it has to do with Stone, will likely provide ammunition to Republicans who are asserting that the search was less about a document dispute and more about a hunt for derogatory Jan. 6 information."

The revelations came on a day when DOJ also opposed requests to unseal the FBI affidavit explaining the motive for the search, arguing such a move could imperil this and other investigations.

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton, whose conservative watchdog regularly sues the government to release documents and is seeking to compel release of documents in the Trump search, said the government's first court filings appear to describe an overly broad search that went far beyond classified records.

"They were engaged in a fishing expedition, and the warrant itself wasn’t about classified information, though it mentioned it," Fitton told Just the News. "It talked about all sort of other documents. It basically gave the FBI carte blanche to anything they wanted from the Trump home.

"And the fact that a judge signed off on it is very troubling," he added.

Brock agreed that the search warrant included a "stunningly broad scope" of targeted evidence and warned it could have a chilling effect on past and future presidents.

"This apparently makes a novel legal assertion that any presidential record kept by a former president is against the law," he explained. "You have to wonder what the other living former presidents think about that.  They have the right and, apparently, clear desire to remain silent.”
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on August 16, 2022, 11:41:36 AM
Did the raids "you know of" involve high profile government officials?   And how were you briefed on these raids?

More usual citizens. I heard about it from the victims.

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When involving client/attorney privilege or in the case of Trump, executive privilege, you cannot have LEO going through random papers and reading them, then turning them over to another team to have them declared CA privilege or executive privilege.  Therein lies the "taint" once those documents are exposed.

You are right. But that is how they do it.


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Think the fourth amendment comes into play here?   Do we actually have a justice system that will sign off a warrant for a fishing expedition???
Yes. But remember, all they need is probable cause. Not a very high standard.


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There's a reason they want the affidavits kept sealed.

Right. And I doubt you will see it until a decision has been made not to charge or the case is fully adjudicated. Think years.

It is not right, but this is what normal innocent citizens go through all the time. "The process is the punishment" is the saying.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 16, 2022, 12:59:23 PM
This three felonies is how they get you to flip on someone.  "Process crimes" like lying to the police is a felony.  They interrogate you for 10 hours and record every word.  After a while your mind gets muddled and they got you.  You contradict yourself because you're tired and muddled.  A contradiction means at least one of those statements is a lie.  So flip on your friend or we put you away for this felony or another.  Police state tactics.
1) Never talk to the police.
2) See #1
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2022, 02:30:26 PM
The corrupt doj and criminal fbi have no interest in what is lawful, any more than communists (democrats) care what is constitutional.

The clintons were the first demoncrats that seems to despise inconvenient laws. After the two person criminal syndicate demoncrats all seems to flow towards ignoring the law in favor of whatever they wanted, instead.

The current doj and Justice departments are run by outright traitors and those traitors should be indicted, convicted and executed, along with those in higher office that have been facilitating their treason.
I would add to the list traitors who are elected officials. Don’t care which party. Both parties have sold us out and given aid and comfort to our enemies. Execute them all.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 02:32:27 PM
Yes. But remember, all they need is probable cause. Not a very high standard.

  This is where the DoJ screwed the pooch.  They are now back peddling on the affidavit because we will find out the affidavit didn't actually support the raid.   Remember, the DoJ judge shopped to get the warrant.   This is no different than the FBI going to the FISA judge and lying to get warrants.  And the DoJ shopped which FISA Judge would sign off while looking the other way.

Bottom line in this debacle is the democrat communist are desperate to attach the former president to a crime.  In 6+ years they have been unable to.  Now we have the Jan 6th show trials that have produced nothing, just as the Russia Hoax, The two impeachments and so on.  Each time they come up empty handed.

 So they figured how wonderful would it be to get their hands on something that falls under executive privilege or attorney client privilege, but then there are those pesky laws.   Get a whistleblower to allege maleficence in record handling, go in without a taint team and rummage through documents.

  Oh wait, where did we hear about a whistleblower previously???  Oh yea, on the impeachment the infamous whistleblower who had second or third hand information about a phone call, and remember, we were told that whistleblower couldn't be identified because, well, national security.   And now we're being fed the same tripe on the affidavit.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2022, 02:33:24 PM
This.  ^^^^ And this is why you don’t talk to them, other than “I want my lawyer”.
How has that worked for the January 6 trespassers who are still sitting in prison without legal representation?  We are in a police state right now.
Title: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: PeterNSteinmetz on August 16, 2022, 05:42:32 PM
Hate to say it, but I strongly suspect they will find something to charge him with. Just like they can most citizens. See the book referenced at the top of the thread.

And then the process is the punishment.

It is possible he has been so exceptionally careful they won’t be able to find anything at least arguably felonious - but I think that unlikely.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 05:52:56 PM
Hate to say it, but I strongly suspect they will find something to charge him with. Just like they can most citizens. See the book referenced at the top of the thread.

And then the process is the punishment.

It is possible he has been so exceptionally careful they won’t be able to find anything at least arguably felonious - but I think that unlikely.

 Perhaps.

 But the Fucking Bunch of Idiots and the Dept of InJustice severely screwed this up, in so many ways.  They weren't even smart enough to attempt to make it look legit.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2022, 06:31:43 PM
Hate to say it, but I strongly suspect they will find something to charge him with. Just like they can most citizens. See the book referenced at the top of the thread.

And then the process is the punishment.

It is possible he has been so exceptionally careful they won’t be able to find anything at least arguably felonious - but I think that unlikely.

I’m hoping after the midterms there will be enough MAGA Republicans to start an investigation into this investigation and put a stop to it. Somehow.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2022, 07:08:00 PM
The communist party has nothing to lose by cooking up a fake crime and trying to evict President Trump from his run to the White House.

Voters are locked in on how they feel about the scams and nothing the communist democrats can do would weaken their support for the legitimate President.

The communists who call themselves democrats are just as intractable.  Nothing (not even the truth) can sway them from their holy war against freedom and common sense.

WHEN the communist party democrats do invent a phony crime the public will continue to turn away, just as large numbers of independent voters have according to yeterday's polls.

The bullshit has gone on too long and the voting public is quite aware of how criminally dishonest the democrats are and have been.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2022, 07:42:21 PM
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Rush on August 17, 2022, 08:29:39 AM
Hate to say it, but I strongly suspect they will find something to charge him with. Just like they can most citizens. See the book referenced at the top of the thread.

And then the process is the punishment.

It is possible he has been so exceptionally careful they won’t be able to find anything at least arguably felonious - but I think that unlikely.

I’d like to believe this guy is right.  I’m not completely sure.  He’s right about a lot of stuff but I’m reserving final judgement until after the midterms.  If he fails to predict rampant cheating resulting in a big Dem win this November I will be disappointed and alarmed because 1. It will mean the Dems pulled it off and Styx failed to see it coming, and 2. Fair elections and the country itself are permanently dead and we are now a dictatorship.

https://rumble.com/v1gamn3-if-the-doj-indicts-trump-it-is-evidence-that-they-are-insane.html
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Rush on August 17, 2022, 10:37:18 AM
Starts at 5:30.  Trump had a standing order that anything he took out of the White House was automatically declassified.  So there can be no classified documents at Mar A Largo and the DOJ/FBI has no case.

Keep listening if you want to hear Tulsi Gabbard talk about it.

Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 17, 2022, 11:06:11 AM
Starts at 5:30.  Trump had a standing order that anything he took out of the White House was automatically declassified. 

Of course the President can declassify anything he want, but I can't speak to whether or not the President can issue such an order...

however, automatically declassifying materials would be a monumentally stupid thing to do...  unless you are one of the people that thinks we have waaaaaaaaay too much classified data and we should declassify everything.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Rush on August 17, 2022, 11:13:18 AM
Of course the President can declassify anything he want, but I can't speak to whether or not the President can issue such an order...

however, automatically declassifying materials would be a monumentally stupid thing to do...  unless you are one of the people that thinks we have waaaaaaaaay too much classified data and we should declassify everything.

I’m sure it was written to apply to anything Trump specifically took, not just anything that walked out!
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2022, 12:40:22 PM
The President can declassify anything he wants declassified.

"Issue such an order"???   Well, duh...........
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: nddons on August 17, 2022, 05:14:54 PM
Of course the President can declassify anything he want, but I can't speak to whether or not the President can issue such an order...

however, automatically declassifying materials would be a monumentally stupid thing to do...  unless you are one of the people that thinks we have waaaaaaaaay too much classified data and we should declassify everything.
We DO have too much classified. You think we don’t?

I think the classification system has given unprecedented and unwarranted power to the very bureaucracy that is benefitting from an increase in power over the peasants. It seems like everybody in FedGov has some kind of clearance these days.

Classification is not just used to classify when a nuke-ladened B-52 will be departing Guam. It’s being used to create POLITICAL shields for the very politicians and bureaucrats that would be embarrassed or arrested if such information came to light.

So yea, fuck it. Let’s declassify everything.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 17, 2022, 05:49:07 PM
We DO have too much classified. You think we don’t?

I think the classification system has given unprecedented and unwarranted power to the very bureaucracy that is benefitting from an increase in power over the peasants. It seems like everybody in FedGov has some kind of clearance these days.

Classification is not just used to classify when a nuke-ladened B-52 will be departing Guam. It’s being used to create POLITICAL shields for the very politicians and bureaucrats that would be embarrassed or arrested if such information came to light.

So yea, fuck it. Let’s declassify everything.

Interesting claim you made.  Kind of tough to prove in an unclassified forum.  so I'll just say this:  Lots of stuff is classified for dang good reasons.  You might disagree or, more likely, you don't have any knowledge of it.  And I'm not referring to anything that has any political connection whatsoever.

And I don't know why you think politicians need to create some sort of shield... the crazy doormat had classified email on her personal server and then erased them... no repercussions.



Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Old Crow on August 18, 2022, 04:49:26 PM
https://dogfaceponia.com/fbi-mar-a-lago-panty-raid/
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: nddons on August 19, 2022, 09:06:38 AM
Interesting claim you made.  Kind of tough to prove in an unclassified forum.  so I'll just say this:  Lots of stuff is classified for dang good reasons.  You might disagree or, more likely, you don't have any knowledge of it.  And I'm not referring to anything that has any political connection whatsoever.

And I don't know why you think politicians need to create some sort of shield... the crazy doormat had classified email on her personal server and then erased them... no repercussions.
I’ll rephrase. Yes, I get some military matters need to remain classified. Possibly even some foreign affairs matters. Only some.

But domestically, the “intelligence” communities have so fully destroyed the trust of American citizens, particularly by their political targeting, that I don’t think anything domestic should ever be classified again. Everything should be public record. Everything.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Number7 on August 19, 2022, 09:35:05 AM
The problem started decades ago when things like toilet paper requisitions started being classified.

Then government agencies realized the advantage of putting proof beyond the reach of motivated congressional committees by classifying their crimes.

Now the communists at the FBI and doj and CIA use the classification of records as cover for political targeting and favoritism to the communist democrat party.

People who think that is ok are also ok with witch hunts, show trials and leaving $8 billion in military hardware for the taliban to use against us.

Those people are called communists, even though that makes them cry.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: nddons on August 19, 2022, 11:32:36 AM
The problem started decades ago when things like toilet paper requisitions started being classified.

Then government agencies realized the advantage of putting proof beyond the reach of motivated congressional committees by classifying their crimes.

Now the communists at the FBI and doj and CIA use the classification of records as cover for political targeting and favoritism to the communist democrat party.

People who think that is ok are also ok with witch hunts, show trials and leaving $8 billion in military hardware for the taliban to use against us.

Those people are called communists, even though that makes them cry.
Precisely.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 19, 2022, 12:09:39 PM
I have read and used a few SCGs, not a lot of them, just a few... on the order of a dozen.

Not once did I see anything classified that wasn't justified.

Not once did I see a classified TP requisition.

Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2022, 12:17:05 PM
I've seen a lot that was classified that didn't warrant it.

And I've witnessed SES types misuse the classification system for their self interest.

The government works for the people, not the other way around.   The government is accountable to the people, not the other way around.

Right now we have a permanent political class in government writing the rules for everyone else while exempting themselves.  We also have a two tiered justice system thanks to this permanent political class.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2022, 04:35:51 PM
So more and more it’s beginning to appear the reason for the raid is the FBI believes Trump has the Crossfire Hurricane documents, and they fear those will be exposed showing how the agency set Trump up. 
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Anthony on August 19, 2022, 04:43:14 PM
I've seen a lot that was classified that didn't warrant it.

And I've witnessed SES types misuse the classification system for their self interest.

The government works for the people, not the other way around.   The government is accountable to the people, not the other way around.

Right now we have a permanent political class in government writing the rules for everyone else while exempting themselves.  We also have a two tiered justice system thanks to this permanent political class.

The new ROYALTY.  They need to be exterminated, legally, of course.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2022, 04:54:49 PM
Understand that one of Bath House Barry’s goals was a national police force. 

Wonder why the communist democrats kept chanting “defund the police”?   Get rid of your local police and replace them with federalies. 

The FBI has been weaponized.  Now, FJB is bringing in 87,000 new IRS “agents” that will carry weapons.  Add those to the other federal agencies with armed agents, and you now have a sizable “police force” to take over state LE functions. 

Just imagine, a federal police force that answers to DC and the DoJ.  It’s terrifying.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Username on August 20, 2022, 06:40:36 AM
Not once did I see a classified TP requisition.
That's because it was classified far above your clearance.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Rush on August 20, 2022, 07:09:36 AM
That's because it was classified far above your clearance.

And this is why.  Government TP waste.  Just kidding.  This is my bathroom.  ;D
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 20, 2022, 08:04:49 AM
And this is why.  Government TP waste.  Just kidding.  This is my bathroom.  ;D
My wife needs that!! She can use a half a roll in one sitting.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 20, 2022, 08:21:10 AM
My wife needs that!! She can use a half a roll in one sitting.

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Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 20, 2022, 08:26:46 AM
And this is why.  Government TP waste.  Just kidding.  This is my bathroom.  ;D

You would save money on toilet paper and have a cleaner butt if you installed a bidet.  ;D
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Anthony on August 20, 2022, 09:14:37 AM
My wife needs that!! She can use a half a roll in one sitting.

TMI!!!   You old people!!!
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Anthony on August 20, 2022, 09:15:56 AM
You would save money on toilet paper and have a cleaner butt if you installed a bidet.  ;D

Stop! Stan has dreams about Rush's Butt.  Don't ruin it for him!
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Rush on August 20, 2022, 09:28:32 AM
Stop! Stan has dreams about Rush's Butt.  Don't ruin it for him!

My butt's about to be ruined by a big old scar so you might as well give it up anyway.  Besides, I thought my talk of six foot fecal spray long since destroyed any such ideas.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: nddons on August 20, 2022, 10:41:38 AM
Stop! Stan has dreams about Rush's Butt.  Don't ruin it for him!
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Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Anthony on August 20, 2022, 10:47:03 AM
My butt's about to be ruined by a big old scar so you might as well give it up anyway.  Besides, I thought my talk of six foot fecal spray long since destroyed any such ideas.

You had to remind me. I'm still having mental anguish about that.   :-X
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Old Crow on August 20, 2022, 03:11:19 PM
We DEFINITELY need a 'laugh' icon!
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Lucifer on August 23, 2022, 06:55:27 AM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/biden-white-house-facilitated-dojs-criminal-probe-against-trump

Biden White House facilitated DOJ's criminal probe against Trump, scuttled privilege claims: memos

"I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege," acting National Archivist Debra Steidel Wall wrote Trump's team in May.

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Long before it professed no prior knowledge of the raid on Donald Trump's estate, the Biden White House worked directly with the Justice Department and National Archives to instigate the criminal probe into alleged mishandling of documents, allowing the FBI to review evidence retrieved from Mar-a-Lago this spring and eliminating the 45th president's claims to executive privilege, according to contemporaneous government documents reviewed by Just the News.

The memos show then-White House Deputy Counsel Jonathan Su was engaged in conversations with the FBI, DOJ and National Archives as early as April, shortly after 15 boxes of classified and other materials were voluntarily returned to the federal historical agency from Trump's Florida home.

By May, Su conveyed to the Archives that President Joe Biden would not object to waiving his predecessor's claims to executive privilege, a decision that opened the door for DOJ to get a grand jury to issue a subpoena compelling Trump to turn over any remaining materials he possessed from his presidency.

The machinations are summarized in several memos and emails exchanged between the various agencies in spring 2022, months before the FBI took the added unprecedented step of raiding Trump's Florida compound with a court-issued search warrant.

The most complete summary was contained in a lengthy letter dated May 10 that acting National Archivist Debra Steidel Wall sent Trump's lawyers summarizing the White House's involvement.

"On April 11, 2022, the White House Counsel's Office — affirming a request from the Department of Justice supported by an FBI letterhead memorandum — formally transmitted a request that NARA provide the FBI access to the 15 boxes for its review within seven days, with the possibility that the FBI might request copies of specific documents following its review of the boxes," Wall wrote Trump defense attorney Evan Corcoran.

That letter revealed Biden empowered the National Archives and Records Administration to waive any claims to executive privilege that Trump might assert to block DOJ from gaining access to the documents.

"The Counsel to the President has informed me that, in light of the particular circumstances presented here, President Biden defers to my determination, in consultation with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, regarding whether or not I should uphold the former President's purported 'protective assertion of executive privilege,'" Wall wrote. "... I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege."

The memos provide the most definitive evidence to date of the current White House's effort to facilitate a criminal probe of the man Joe Biden beat in the 2020 election and may face again as a challenger in 2024. That involvement included eliminating one of the legal defenses Trump might use to fight the FBI over access to his documents.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Anthony on August 23, 2022, 07:11:19 AM
Effing, Fascist criminals.  That's who runs our former country now.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Number7 on August 23, 2022, 08:53:14 AM
There is nothing honorable about the left.

Nothing.

A bigger group of lying scum rarely existed.
Title: Re: The Trump raid and "3 Felonies A Day"
Post by: Rush on August 23, 2022, 11:18:29 AM
I got an email, Trump has sent me some "Top Secret" information.  ROTFLMAO!!!!