Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2022, 05:20:48 AM
I guess they don't want cow farts due to their idiot lying religion of Man-Made Climate Change. But chickens? What do they do, or is it that they're raised and killed in "inhumane" conditions? Now, I eat very little meat today, mostly ground turkey and chicken, but I am not against it, nor will I stop eating it because my body needs the meat protein. Why seek a substitute when the real thing is just fine for me?
If I see the ad again, I will post the company that set me off on this rant. It is a one syllable stupid name.
Oh, and EVs suck!
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2022, 06:07:09 AM
With today's technology manual labor has decreased. We no longer need massive amounts of laborers to build or maintain. In the elites minds, we don't need these excess people anymore and besides, they are destroying the earth that's reserved for the elite class. ::)
Meat and other foods should be reserved for the elites and their sycophants. The undesirables shall eat bugs or whatever the elites deem they can have.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 31, 2022, 06:20:12 AM
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2022, 06:51:26 AM
We are now in a police state under the Biden Regime. Our media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the state. We actually have political prisoners being held in inhumane conditions in a DC Gulag. We have a gestapo like federal police force. Your wealth is being confiscated right before your eyes in plans labeled "Inflation Reduction Act" and other laughable monikers. We no longer have a secure border and an invasion by foreign nationals ongoing, our military has been reduced and our military stockpiles are disappearing with no answers to where.
This is the direct result of a stolen election, and we did nothing to stop it. And if you thought the stealing was bad in 2020, "you ain't seen nothing yet".
Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2022, 06:55:20 AM
We are now in a police state under the Biden Regime. Our media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the state. We actually have political prisoners being held in inhumane conditions in a DC Gulag. We have a gestapo like federal police force. Your wealth is being confiscated right before your eyes in plans labeled "Inflation Reduction Act" and other laughable monikers. We no longer have a secure border and an invasion by foreign nationals ongoing, our military has been reduced and our military stockpiles are disappearing with no answers to where.
This is the direct result of a stolen election, and we did nothing to stop it. And if you thought the stealing was bad in 2020, "you ain't seen nothing yet".
Rally scary and unnerving, but this is the absolute truth right now. Right is wrong, up is down, we are truly though the looking glass. Keep your powder dry folks.
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 06:56:29 AM
Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2022, 06:58:53 AM
I get those prepackaged meal kits where they send you all the ingredients. When picking my weekly menu I have to navigate around the vegetarian dishes and the “plant based” fake meat options.
We are being bombarded with this crap, yet I don't see ANYONE buying it at the grocery stores when checking out. Just like EVs. NOBODY WANTS THEM. (unless you're a woketard)
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 07:51:09 AM
We are being bombarded with this crap, yet I don't see ANYONE buying it at the grocery stores when checking out. Just like EVs. NOBODY WANTS THEM. (unless you're a woketard)
I can think of several people, myself included, that tried the vegetarian thing, gave it up and went back to meat. Low fat and “meat is bad” and “saturated fat is bad” is all outdated and was based on faulty data. Turns out it’s not so simple.
First, there are individual variations. Your ethnicity for example. Your ancestors evolved along with certain eating patterns. A very obvious one is lactose intolerance vs lactase persistence. If you descended from certain groups that domesticated dairy, then milk is good for you. If not then it isn’t. If you came from groups that lived near the ocean and subsisted on seafood, then fish might be especially healthy for you. People living in arctic climates survived on mostly meat and fat, whereas people living in equatorial forests had a varied diet with many fruits, honey and roots in their diet, along with animal protein.
It’s not a stretch to understand that we have genetic variation in our responses to food. We know this with dairy and with food allergies and sensitivities. It probably exists in many other ways yet undiscovered. A vegetarian diet might be healthy for one person but very unhealthy for another based on genetics.
Then there are the differences between industrialized food and their pre-industrial counterparts. Grass fed beef is significantly healthier than factory corn fed. Wheat and corn have been modified to contain more starch than ancient varieties. Claims that meat and saturated fat are bad for you don’t account for Omega 3 vs 6 differences.
And so on. This push away from meat, and a baffling persistence in the “low fat” paradigm, is a low intelligence, overly simplistic approach stinking of political agenda. The last thing it is, is scientifically supported.
Post by: nddons on August 31, 2022, 08:31:10 AM
California Asks Residents To Avoid Charging Electric Vehicles Due To Blackout Risk Days After Unveiling New Gas Car Ban
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Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 08:38:23 AM
Post by: Username on August 31, 2022, 08:41:17 AM
Yeah, I'm kind of messed up today.
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 08:55:18 AM
I don't know... maybe it's because I'm getting older or something. I'm tending away from meat. Not due to health or anything, but because I'm realizing that some animal died so I could enjoy its meat. Nature and all that. Meat comes from the store in nice sanitary packages, not from that cow over there. Except it does. I guess I'm valuing the concept of life. I don't know. But when I enjoy that burger or ribs or chicken casserole, I make sure that I'm not taking more than I can use. Don't throw away needlessly. I get that some animal died so I could eat it. I don't want it to die wastefully.
Yeah, I'm kind of messed up today.
You are doing the species of domesticated animal a favor by eating it. This is how they propagated and avoided extinction. Instead of letting themselves be hunted out of existence like so many other species that insisted on remaining wild, they befriended Homo Sapiens and allowed him to domestic them for consumption. In return they get fed, housed and cared for between birth and slaughter, as well as ensuring their species will continue on.
Personally I believe the bargain was for a relatively happy, if truncated, life, therefore I dislike mass produced industrial meat and prefer true free range and pastured meat.
Post by: nddons on August 31, 2022, 08:58:21 AM
I don't know... maybe it's because I'm getting older or something. I'm tending away from meat. Not due to health or anything, but because I'm realizing that some animal died so I could enjoy its meat. Nature and all that. Meat comes from the store in nice sanitary packages, not from that cow over there. Except it does. I guess I'm valuing the concept of life. I don't know. But when I enjoy that burger or ribs or chicken casserole, I make sure that I'm not taking more than I can use. Don't throw away needlessly. I get that some animal died so I could eat it. I don't want it to die wastefully.My daughter was a large animal veterinarian for 7 years before moving to small animal. She was integral to the food chain. Most of her work was in dairy, but she also did beef and swine as well.
Yeah, I'm kind of messed up today.
She understands the circle of life, and why these animals are here - to provide for human sustenance. Cattle would not exist in the wild (wildebeest and bison excepted.) They would be prey to predators and be wiped out.
Her job was to help maintain healthy, prosperous herds, monitor and improve animal welfare, minimize potential suffering, and maintain a safe food supply for public safety. Not necessarily in that order.
Post by: Username on August 31, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2022, 12:06:22 PM
I don't know... maybe it's because I'm getting older or something. I'm tending away from meat. Not due to health or anything, but because I'm realizing that some animal died so I could enjoy its meat. Nature and all that. Meat comes from the store in nice sanitary packages, not from that cow over there. Except it does. I guess I'm valuing the concept of life. I don't know. But when I enjoy that burger or ribs or chicken casserole, I make sure that I'm not taking more than I can use. Don't throw away needlessly. I get that some animal died so I could eat it. I don't want it to die wastefully.
Yeah, I'm kind of messed up today.
I've removed most meat from my diet because I stopped using food as entertainment or because it tastes good. Sure I still eat the occasional less than healthy food but it is relatively rare. It helps being single and only eating what I want, when I want and how often.
Post by: jb1842 on August 31, 2022, 12:34:18 PM
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 01:29:14 PM
I watch my sugar and carb intake. It makes a difference. But I'm also on a med that screws up my liver if I cut out certain dietary needs completely. I like keto, but can't do hardcore like I used to. And I'm allergic to soy, so that fake meat will never make it's way into my house.
I watch sugar and carb intake too, in theory. But I just had a birthday and my husband bought me a HUGE German Chocolate cake, my kid sent me chocolate covered strawberries and my other kid sent me a poppy seed roll, not the bun sprinkled with a few poppy seeds, the big rolled up log with lots of sugary poppy seed filling. I'm not even testing my blood sugar, I don't wanna know. I'm pathetic. I had to give 3/4 of the cake away to neighbors and it was still too much.
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 01:32:56 PM
I've removed most meat from my diet because I stopped using food as entertainment or because it tastes good. Sure I still eat the occasional less than healthy food but it is relatively rare. It helps being single and only eating what I want, when I want and how often.
I don't understand. What's meat got to do with using food as entertainment or tastes good? All types of food can be used as entertainment and all types of food can taste good or bad depending. And are you implying meat is "less healthy"?
A steak is way healthier than that huge monster slab of utterly to die for delicious German Chocolate cake I
Post by: jb1842 on August 31, 2022, 01:53:17 PM
I watch sugar and carb intake too, in theory. But I just had a birthday and my husband bought me a HUGE German Chocolate cake, my kid sent me chocolate covered strawberries and my other kid sent me a poppy seed roll, not the bun sprinkled with a few poppy seeds, the big rolled up log with lots of sugary poppy seed filling. I'm not even testing my blood sugar, I don't wanna know. I'm pathetic. I had to give 3/4 of the cake away to neighbors and it was still too much.
I'm not familiar with this giving away chocolate cake. Is it some new trend? Not sure how I feel about that.
Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2022, 02:17:23 PM
I don't understand. What's meat got to do with using food as entertainment or tastes good? All types of food can be used as entertainment and all types of food can taste good or bad depending. And are you implying meat is "less healthy"?
A steak is way healthier than that huge monster slab of utterly to die for delicious German Chocolate cake Igobbled uphad to force down because it tasted so bad.
Has nothing to do with meat per se, but higher calorie foods in general of which I include SOME meats or styles of meat like sausage etc.
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 31, 2022, 02:50:05 PM
Post by: bflynn on August 31, 2022, 02:50:55 PM
This is why you must never, never give up your guns.
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 02:56:45 PM
Has nothing to do with meat per se, but higher calorie foods in general of which I include SOME meats or styles of meat like sausage etc.
It is true that protein and fat are calorie dense. You do need to limit the amount you eat which is easy if you don’t add sugar to it. How much plain butter could you eat? A tablespoon maybe? Beat sugar into butter, now how much can you eat? I can eat a whole pound of that.
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 02:58:27 PM
I'm not familiar with this giving away chocolate cake. Is it some new trend? Not sure how I feel about that.
It was painful. That thing was incredible. Hubby went to the high end bakery. It had some sort of brandy or something in it, very moist.
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 02:59:40 PM
This thread now feels like the scene from Jaws where Quint and Hooper compare scars. As I check out the small scar left by removal of my gallbladder I feel like Brody and his appendectomy scar - nothing much to offer. Except to say without a gallbladder I have to limit intake of fat, so fatty meats are rarely in my diet.
I don’t have a gallbladder either and I pay when I eat too much fat.
Post by: nddons on August 31, 2022, 03:15:55 PM
I don't understand. What's meat got to do with using food as entertainment or tastes good? All types of food can be used as entertainment and all types of food can taste good or bad depending. And are you implying meat is "less healthy"?Translation: Don’t think you’re getting taken out to dinner if you’re dating Anthony.
A steak is way healthier than that huge monster slab of utterly to die for delicious German Chocolate cake Igobbled uphad to force down because it tasted so bad.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 31, 2022, 03:50:55 PM
My wife gets little to no exercise and it is hard to get her to give up things she likes, especially when she is feeling down for pain. It make it hard for her to lose any amount of weight.
Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2022, 04:01:18 PM
Translation: Don’t think you’re getting taken out to dinner if you’re dating Anthony.
Occasionally, but I usually do the taking and try to pair healthy functions with meals like hiking or something. But, I get what you're saying. Big, high calorie meals are not my thing anyway. If they can't deal with that, then well...
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 31, 2022, 04:19:06 PM
Just a dive, but the cook in their kitchen is an artist.
Post by: nddons on August 31, 2022, 04:56:09 PM
Occasionally, but I usually do the taking and try to pair healthy functions with meals like hiking or something. But, I get what you're saying. Big, high calorie meals are not my thing anyway. If they can't deal with that, then well...NSA sent me a gif of Anthony on a date immediately after his date orders desert:
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/KBE5fJsb4UsErj3HzL/giphy.gif)
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 05:09:03 PM
My issue is hypothyroidism. It really works against me losing or maintaining weight. To maintain or lose I have to really watch my carbs and I try to watch my portions also. For dinner I just had a salad and a small chicken breast. For most of my lunches I use either egg wraps or cheese wraps to make roll ups of ham and cheese.
My wife gets little to no exercise and it is hard to get her to give up things she likes, especially when she is feeling down for pain. It make it hard for her to lose any amount of weight.
Since my hip went south this year I get zero exercise. Still I didn’t gain any weight until last week and all the b day carbs, I gained a couple pounds so now I have to cut back and lose it again. It really is a matter of what you eat and how much. I have to get in the right frame of mind. Pain makes it really hard to do that. But maybe the upcoming surgery will motivate me. I’d like to be skinnier, I think it will make recovery easier.
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2022, 05:12:04 PM
Occasionally, but I usually do the taking and try to pair healthy functions with meals like hiking or something. But, I get what you're saying. Big, high calorie meals are not my thing anyway. If they can't deal with that, then well...
Taking or talking?
Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2022, 05:42:23 PM
Taking or talking?
Oh, I pay, always, so I take them to dinner or lunch, whatever. Girls don't pay my way, ever. ;D