Post by: Rush on November 04, 2022, 05:02:37 PM
Post by: Bamaflyer on November 04, 2022, 05:13:09 PM
Post by: Rush on November 04, 2022, 05:29:08 PM
No rule against it but you can bet NASCAR will come up with one soon. Used to be an avid fan but it seems since Dale Earnhardt died at Daytona the sport has gone to shitville. Playoffs is their deal now and it blows IMO. Don’t watch it anymore. Indy Cars I still watch til they fuck that up.
I was thinking the same thing, they’ll make a rule against it. Looks like too much fun.
Post by: Number7 on November 04, 2022, 07:21:24 PM
The truth is I started losing interest as soon as the cars stopped looking like street cars and looked exactly alike with a different plastic shell on top.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 04, 2022, 08:22:32 PM
For those not familiar, they run the first 26 races to determine 16 drivers that will be in the playoffs. If you win during those 26 races you are essentially locked in, assuming there are not more than 26 drivers that win. This year there were 16 winners, but one of them, Kurt Busch, suffered a concussion at Pocono and never competed again during the year. That left one spot available by points.
The playoffs consist of 10 races. After 3 races the bottom four in points are eliminated leaving 12. After 3 more races the bottom 4 are eliminated again leaving 8. Three more races and four more are eliminated leaving the final four for the last race of the season. Again, if you win during the three races of each round, you are locked into the next round. One of the final four driver, Christopher Bell, had to win in each of the last two rounds to move on. He won the race in Martinsville last Sunday to get him.
Sunday is the last race in Phoenix and the four start even up and which of the four that finishes ahead of the other three is the champion.
This year was the first year for a brand new car. The car is designed to take advantages away from the high dollar teams. Other than the engines the parts are purchased from sole source suppliers. For the first time the cars have carbon fiber body parts and not sheet metal and 18" low profile tires with a single center lug nut. That has made for an interesting season and allowed teams other than high dollar teams to be competitive and win. Overall, there have been 19 different winners to date.
Post by: Rush on November 05, 2022, 04:25:03 AM
The rest of the story....this was the race to decide the four drivers that would have a short at the championship on Sunday. Prior to the move Denny Hamlin was the number four guy and was in the and Ross Chastain was out and needed to pass two cars to eke out Hamlin. On the final lap he hatched this plan. During the race everyone used 3rd and 4th gears of their five speed transaxles. Headed down the back stretch Chastain shifted into 5th and floored it and ended up passing five cars, including Hamlin at the line. locking him in to the final four for the Sunday race.
For those not familiar, they run the first 26 races to determine 16 drivers that will be in the playoffs. If you win during those 26 races you are essentially locked in, assuming there are not more than 26 drivers that win. This year there were 16 winners, but one of them, Kurt Busch, suffered a concussion at Pocono and never competed again during the year. That left one spot available by points.
The playoffs consist of 10 races. After 3 races the bottom four in points are eliminated leaving 12. After 3 more races the bottom 4 are eliminated again leaving 8. Three more races and four more are eliminated leaving the final four for the last race of the season. Again, if you win during the three races of each round, you are locked into the next round. One of the final four driver, Christopher Bell, had to win in each of the last two rounds to move on. He won the race in Martinsville last Sunday to get him.
Sunday is the last race in Phoenix and the four start even up and which of the four that finishes ahead of the other three is the champion.
This year was the first year for a brand new car. The car is designed to take advantages away from the high dollar teams. Other than the engines the parts are purchased from sole source suppliers. For the first time the cars have carbon fiber body parts and not sheet metal and 18" low profile tires with a single center lug nut. That has made for an interesting season and allowed teams other than high dollar teams to be competitive and win. Overall, there have been 19 different winners to date.
I know absolutely nothing about racing. But here is what I suppose and you can tell me if I’m right. Back in the beginning you built your car however, with maybe some parameters, but otherwise part of winning was that you engineered a better car. If you had more money (high dollar team) you could afford to make a better car. Now, it sounds like the cars have been standardized and the portion of winning that was due to you being able to build a better car has been eliminated. Now, it’s all in the driving. And one unintended result was this kid came up with a new aggressive driving strategy to win.
Am I anywhere in the zip code of what’s going on?
Post by: Anthony on November 05, 2022, 05:00:35 AM
Post by: Lucifer on November 05, 2022, 05:19:40 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 06:34:27 AM
I know absolutely nothing about racing. But here is what I suppose and you can tell me if I’m right. Back in the beginning you built your car however, with maybe some parameters, but otherwise part of winning was that you engineered a better car. If you had more money (high dollar team) you could afford to make a better car. Now, it sounds like the cars have been standardized and the portion of winning that was due to you being able to build a better car has been eliminated. Now, it’s all in the driving. And one unintended result was this kid came up with a new aggressive driving strategy to win.In the zip code. Everything except the engine is standardized. You are fined heavily if you modify any of those parts. There is still some advantage to the high dollar teams as they have more engineering talent on board to figure out how to set these cars up to make them run faster. Driver skill is important and the cars are harder to drive than the older version. Ross did something no one had ever tried or had the balls to try. Certainly it had the potential for disaster. He executed it to perfection.
Am I anywhere in the zip code of what’s going on?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 06:37:16 AM
Don't know anything about NASCAR, but I think it started with "stock" cars that guys souped up to race. Sounds like it's totally different now and really crappy.Started with moonshiners who were good at outrunning the "man". They took showroom stock cars and ran them. Look for videos of the early days of running on the beach at Daytona. Over time they became more standardized in shape, size, weight and engine size. Team with big budgets were able to manufacture suspension pieces that gave them an edge.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 06:45:39 AM
NASCAR: Non Athletic Sports Centered Around RednecksSince the font is not green, I'll assume you also know nothing of the skill involved with driving one of these cars and the stamina needed to do that. You also have to be able to describe to your crew chief what the car is doing so he can make adjustments to the car during pits stops to make it handle better.
I would tell you to watch the most recent Cup race from Homestead Miami. The wiinner of that race, Kyle Larson, ran that race up against the wall for 400 miles, 267 laps. I'll assume you know what a Jersey barrier is, you see them on many dived highways, especially the interstate. How long could you run at 160+ MPH a foot or less from one of those barriers and not in a straight line, but in a curve without hitting it?
The Saturday race at Homestead Miami was the Xfinity Series and the young man, Noah Gragson, that won that race is not in the best of shape and it showed. When he got out of his car he was physically spent, could barely stand up. He also ran the wall during that race. The concentration required to do that was intense, and it showed.
Not gonna find many red necks in NASCAR these days.
Post by: texasag93 on November 05, 2022, 06:47:24 AM
My parents would let me watch Richard Pryor movies when I was a kid.
I had to wait until they went to sleep to watch his stand up routines.
Post by: Rush on November 05, 2022, 07:09:16 AM
Since the font is not green, I'll assume you also know nothing of the skill involved with driving one of these cars and the stamina needed to do that. You also have to be able to describe to your crew chief what the car is doing so he can make adjustments to the car during pits stops to make it handle better.
I would tell you to watch the most recent Cup race from Homestead Miami. The wiinner of that race, Kyle Larson, ran that race up against the wall for 400 miles, 267 laps. I'll assume you know what a Jersey barrier is, you see them on many dived highways, especially the interstate. How long could you run at 160+ MPH a foot or less from one of those barriers and not in a straight line, but in a curve without hitting it?
The Saturday race at Homestead Miami was the Xfinity Series and the young man, Noah Gragson, that won that race is not in the best of shape and it showed. When he got out of his car he was physically spent, could barely stand up. He also ran the wall during that race. The concentration required to do that was intense, and it showed.
Not gonna find many red necks in NASCAR these days.
It still made me laugh in real life. I’m a bad person. :-\
Post by: Rush on November 05, 2022, 07:18:50 AM
In the zip code. Everything except the engine is standardized. You are fined heavily if you modify any of those parts. There is still some advantage to the high dollar teams as they have more engineering talent on board to figure out how to set these cars up to make them run faster. Driver skill is important and the cars are harder to drive than the older version. Ross did something no one had ever tried or had the balls to try. Certainly it had the potential for disaster. He executed it to perfection.
Here is one of the comments on YouTube. Makes sense.
Blasecube
2 days ago
@Sauce123 Not really a NASCAR thing but a Racing thing in general (Personally I'm not into NASCAR at all), you need to slow down in a corner, the key being how to take it as fast as possible. Everyone slows down to take the apex without hitting the wall (which may cause a huge accident). What Chastain did was, essentially, "If I don't care about hitting the wall, I may go as fast as I can!", so he hit the wall on purpose, allowing him to take the corner at MUCH higher speed since, well, he didn't had to worry about either hitting the wall nor understering .
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 07:19:32 AM
It still made me laugh in real life. I’m a bad person. :-\There is a difference between a bad person and someone that really doesn't understand. Don't beat yourself up.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 07:21:53 AM
Here is one of the comments on YouTube. Makes sense.Pretty good synopsis of the move. Tomorrow he is one of only four drivers that can win the championship. Interesting thing about NASCAR, there will still be 32 other cars on the track that all want to win that race. They will not just move out of the way for those four.
Blasecube
2 days ago
@Sauce123 Not really a NASCAR thing but a Racing thing in general (Personally I'm not into NASCAR at all), you need to slow down in a corner, the key being how to take it as fast as possible. Everyone slows down to take the apex without hitting the wall (which may cause a huge accident). What Chastain did was, essentially, "If I don't care about hitting the wall, I may go as fast as I can!", so he hit the wall on purpose, allowing him to take the corner at MUCH higher speed since, well, he didn't had to worry about either hitting the wall nor understering .
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 05, 2022, 07:31:42 AM
... They will not just move out of the way for those four.
I hope not (to be clear: I hope every driver on the track is looking to win - otherwise why be out there?)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 07:45:48 AM
https://www.nbcsports.com/video/extended-highlights-kyle-larson-wins-nascar-cup-race-homestead-miami
Post by: Lucifer on November 05, 2022, 07:56:15 AM
Since the font is not green, I'll assume you also know nothing of the skill involved with driving one of these cars and the stamina needed to do that. You also have to be able to describe to your crew chief what the car is doing so he can make adjustments to the car during pits stops to make it handle better.
I would tell you to watch the most recent Cup race from Homestead Miami. The wiinner of that race, Kyle Larson, ran that race up against the wall for 400 miles, 267 laps. I'll assume you know what a Jersey barrier is, you see them on many dived highways, especially the interstate. How long could you run at 160+ MPH a foot or less from one of those barriers and not in a straight line, but in a curve without hitting it?
The Saturday race at Homestead Miami was the Xfinity Series and the young man, Noah Gragson, that won that race is not in the best of shape and it showed. When he got out of his car he was physically spent, could barely stand up. He also ran the wall during that race. The concentration required to do that was intense, and it showed.
Not gonna find many red necks in NASCAR these days.
Be careful when assuming. It was a joke.
And I don’t waste my time with NASCAR.
Post by: Rush on November 05, 2022, 08:09:47 AM
There is a difference between a bad person and someone that really doesn't understand. Don't beat yourself up.
Of course not. All in good fun. ;D
Post by: Rush on November 05, 2022, 08:17:05 AM
Here's a video of highlights from Homestead miami. There are several shots that show the guys that run up against the wall. I couldn't find the in car video that shows it much better.
https://www.nbcsports.com/video/extended-highlights-kyle-larson-wins-nascar-cup-race-homestead-miami
So they touch the wall and it’s like whoops! Unintentional. Til now. Mua ha ha. I mean they almost have to make a rule against it otherwise you’ll have a bunch more trying it and maybe it’s not really safe? Or you have no chance to win unless you do it and everybody’s jockeying to get on the wall first.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 08:28:10 AM
So they touch the wall and it’s like whoops! Unintentional. Til now. Mua ha ha. I mean they almost have to make a rule against it otherwise you’ll have a bunch more trying it and maybe it’s not really safe? Or you have no chance to win unless you do it and everybody’s jockeying to get on the wall first.There may only be a couple of tracks that it would be useful and only on the last lap. A track like Homestead Miami, you are running flat out anyhow, not much to be gained. Martinsville is the slowest track on the circuit, it was perfect for trying what he did.
Post by: nddons on November 05, 2022, 03:59:55 PM
NASCAR: Non Athletic Sports Centered Around RednecksHa!! When I moved to Charlotte I learned a little about NASCAR. I was always an Indy fan, and attended the time trials several times.
But holy shit, those nascar fans are real rednecks. I went to races in Charlotte and Darlington. Flying from my home airport of Monroe (KEQY) to Concord (KJQF) a reporting point was “over the racetrack” which was the Charlotte Motor Speedway. So that was pretty cool. When I was learning to fly, my CFI wouldn’t let me fly to Concord on Thursdays because that’s when the race teams all flew out to their races.
Post by: Rush on November 05, 2022, 05:23:46 PM
Ha!! When I moved to Charlotte I learned a little about NASCAR. I was always an Indy fan, and attended the time trials several times.
But holy shit, those nascar fans are real rednecks. I went to races in Charlotte and Darlington. Flying from my home airport of Monroe (KEQY) to Concord (KJQF) a reporting point was “over the racetrack” which was the Charlotte Motor Speedway. So that was pretty cool. When I was learning to fly, my CFI wouldn’t let me fly to Concord on Thursdays because that’s when the race teams all flew out to their races.
Wait… you’re from NC? How come I didn’t know that? Or did I and I forgot?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 05:30:23 PM
Ha!! When I moved to Charlotte I learned a little about NASCAR. I was always an Indy fan, and attended the time trials several times.My oldest son lives in Concord maybe five miles from the airport. Flew in there on several occasions.
But holy shit, those nascar fans are real rednecks. I went to races in Charlotte and Darlington. Flying from my home airport of Monroe (KEQY) to Concord (KJQF) a reporting point was “over the racetrack” which was the Charlotte Motor Speedway. So that was pretty cool. When I was learning to fly, my CFI wouldn’t let me fly to Concord on Thursdays because that’s when the race teams all flew out to their races.
Post by: Bamaflyer on November 05, 2022, 06:30:25 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 05, 2022, 07:19:50 PM
Post by: nddons on November 05, 2022, 08:30:57 PM
Wait… you’re from NC? How come I didn’t know that? Or did I and I forgot?Nope. Moved there from Iowa in 2000 and left Charlotte for Wisconsin in 2006. It ended up not what we hoped it would be. I did get that my ASEL in The Carolinas. It was a good place to learn to fly.
Post by: Rush on November 06, 2022, 04:16:21 AM
Nope. Moved there from Iowa in 2000 and left Charlotte for Wisconsin in 2006. It ended up not what we hoped it would be. I did get that my ASEL in The Carolinas. It was a good place to learn to fly.
So you’re from Iowa? I moved from Iowa to NC … in 1968 lol! But I wasn’t born in either.
NC is a good place to fly. Everything from mountains to beaches and everything in between.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 06, 2022, 05:47:40 PM
In other NASCAR news, Saturday was the championship race for the Xfinity Series. Think of it as akin to AAA baseball that feeds the major league teams.
The champion of that series was Ty Gibbs. Ty is the grandson of Joe Gibbs, NFL Hall of Fame coach and the owner of Joe Gibbs Racing and a member of the NASCAR Hall of Fame. Ty's father is Coy Gibbs, son of Joe and the COO/Vice Chairman of Joe Gibbs Racing. The picture is of Coy, left, Ty in the center and Ty's mother taken last night after the championship race. After going to bed last night Coy Gibbs passed away at the age of 49.
You never know when it's your time.......
Post by: Rush on November 06, 2022, 05:57:32 PM
Post by: nddons on November 06, 2022, 10:46:39 PM
Nope. Moved there from Iowa in 2000 and left Charlotte for Wisconsin in 2006. It ended up not what we hoped it would be. I did get that my ASEL in The Carolinas. It was a good place to learn to fly.No, I was born and raised in Chicago. Moved to Davenport iowa in 1993.
Post by: elwood blues on November 07, 2022, 06:31:34 PM
Post by: nddons on November 07, 2022, 07:33:38 PM
The only thing I know about NASCAR, is that it gave birth to the greatest political chant ever.Best post on PS this week!!
Post by: Anthony on November 08, 2022, 03:30:14 AM
Post by: Rush on November 08, 2022, 05:45:26 AM
Post by: Anthony on November 08, 2022, 10:52:09 AM
I associate Chris Watts with NASCAR. All he wanted in life was to be involved in NASCAR and be a crew chief but noooooooo he let himself be emotionally and financially devoured and abused by a woman til he finally murdered her and their two little girls and is now rotting in prison for life. Maybe he gets to watch NASCAR on TV.
I went through that but instead of murdering, I just had, yet another, mid life crisis which I'm now too old for so I guess it's near end life crisis.
Post by: Rush on November 08, 2022, 11:59:00 AM
I went through that but instead of murdering, I just had, yet another, mid life crisis which I'm now too old for so I guess it's near end life crisis.
As long as you’ve learned the lesson not to marry and entangle your finances or major life with a woman you’re good. I guess. Still have to watch out for allegations.
Post by: Anthony on November 08, 2022, 12:12:02 PM
As long as you’ve learned the lesson not to marry and entangle your finances or major life with a woman you’re good. I guess. Still have to watch out for allegations.
Yeah, No, never happening again.