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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on November 18, 2022, 05:01:15 AM

Title: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Little Joe on November 18, 2022, 05:01:15 AM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mystery-vladimir-putins-crony-colonel-28504451

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Vladimir Putin's colonel, Vadim Boyko, 44, was shot five times and killed in a mystery ‘assassination’ in his office in Vladivostok, Russia - as initial reports claimed that it was a ‘suicide’
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The BAZA report went on to question how the colonel could have shot himself in the chest five times.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Number7 on November 18, 2022, 06:21:09 AM
I wonder what information he has on the clintons.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Anthony on November 18, 2022, 09:23:03 AM
He was connected to the war in Ukraine, and to the initial mobilization, the article says. It could have been Putin punishing him for it not going well.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Rush on November 18, 2022, 09:44:32 AM
He was connected to the war in Ukraine, and to the initial mobilization, the article says. It could have been Putin punishing him for it not going well.

Either that or he was too close to Putin and Putin suspected him of disloyalty as dictators are wont to do.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Steingar on November 18, 2022, 12:26:33 PM
A bunch of well-heeled Russians have committed suicide lately, most were on the outs with Putin one way or another.  One killed himself by jumping out a window.  A hospital window.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Little Joe on November 18, 2022, 01:47:23 PM
Either that or he was too close to Putin and Putin suspected him of disloyalty as dictators are wont to do.
Even Trump doesn't go that far.
At least not that we know about.  But he will throw someone under the bus if he perceives a threat.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Rush on November 18, 2022, 02:27:23 PM
Even Trump doesn't go that far.
At least not that we know about.  But he will throw someone under the bus if he perceives a threat.

Trump is not a dictator.  A dictator doesn’t give a fuck about the common man.  Trump is all about making life better for the common man, by actually loosening the grip of centralized government.  Dictators tighten the grip of centralized government.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: bflynn on November 19, 2022, 02:08:52 AM
Trump is all about making life better for the common man, by actually loosening the grip of centralized government. 

I agree he is not a dictator, but I think his motivation is Trump, not you and me. We are tools to be used to stroke his ego and if we benefit along the way, that’s ok too.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Little Joe on November 19, 2022, 04:58:39 AM
Trump is not a dictator.  A dictator doesn’t give a fuck about the common man.  Trump is all about making life better for the common man, by actually loosening the grip of centralized government.  Dictators tighten the grip of centralized government.
Of course he is not a dictator.  But if someone doesn't toe the line (his line) they pay the consequences.  Yes, that goes for just about anyone, but it applies to some people more than others.  Trump comes in somewhere behind Putin and Clinton in the regard.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Rush on November 19, 2022, 06:46:34 AM
Of course he is not a dictator.  But if someone doesn't toe the line (his line) they pay the consequences.  Yes, that goes for just about anyone, but it applies to some people more than others.  Trump comes in somewhere behind Putin and Clinton in the regard.

Bold part:   Isn’t that true for any leader?  No point in being boss if you don’t enforce your orders.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 19, 2022, 06:52:21 AM
I agree he is not a dictator, but I think his motivation is Trump, not you and me. We are tools to be used to stroke his ego and if we benefit along the way, that’s ok too.

You truly believe he takes all the slings and arrows of howling Dem/RINO/cabal hate and lies and persecution and investigations and faux impeachment for … his ego?

That the promises he kept to us, under constant, vitriolic attacks from 2016 to 2020 and all the things we miss now, he did for … himself?

He was and is a lightning rod for the corrupt. All we need now to clearly see who OUR enemies are is to catalogue and eliminate those who hate him. They’re making no secret of their position that STOPPING TRUMP is their only hope to preserve their grift and perfidy ad infinitum, and keep AMERICANS from interfering in our own governing.

Let’s face it, we’re all imperfect and we’re all going to leave a legacy. As Rush has said, if President Trump wants his legacy to be an American government with less corruption, a prosperous and secure America, and secure elections, that’s fine with me.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Rush on November 19, 2022, 06:56:00 AM
I agree he is not a dictator, but I think his motivation is Trump, not you and me. We are tools to be used to stroke his ego and if we benefit along the way, that’s ok too.

I’ve said that myself.  It’s possible, maybe probable, he’s a narcissist.  You have to be, to get into politics, especially to imagine yourself president.  I do not care what his motive for caring about you and me is.  And like you said, if it’s all for his own ego, that’s okay.

If he gets gas back down to $1.80, it can be for whatever twisted reason his little heart desires.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Number7 on November 19, 2022, 07:02:10 AM
I’ve said that myself.  It’s possible, maybe probable, he’s a narcissist.  You have to be, to get into politics, especially to imagine yourself president.  I do not care what his motive for caring about you and me is.  And like you said, if it’s all for his own ego, that’s okay.

If he gets gas back down to $1.80, it can be for whatever twisted reason his little heart desires.

Yes... but... mean tweets!!!

he says mean things...

The pansy brigade is offended.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Rush on November 19, 2022, 07:38:03 AM
Yes... but... mean tweets!!!

he says mean things...

The pansy brigade is offended.

Here’s an example of how my thinking goes.  Trump will get gas back to $1.80.  Or the best he can do under his control, I know there are market forces beyond his control at play, but U.S. policy is the biggest influence.  Open Keystone, drill baby drill, etc.

If DeSantis (or anyone else) runs in the primary, they would have to vow to do the same immediately upon taking office.  They would have to write a contract with the voter, just like Trump did, of promises, and then pinky swear to keep them. 

That would have to be the minimum before I’d even consider voting for them over Trump.  Above and beyond that there would need to be reasons.  Trump pulling a Fettermen would do it. 
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Anthony on November 19, 2022, 08:20:01 AM
You truly believe he takes all the slings and arrows of howling Dem/RINO/cabal hate and lies and persecution and investigations and faux impeachment for … his ego?

That the promises he kept to us, under constant, vitriolic attacks from 2016 to 2020 and all the things we miss now, he did for … himself?

He was and is a lightning rod for the corrupt. All we need now to clearly see who OUR enemies are is to catalogue and eliminate those who hate him. They’re making no secret of their position that STOPPING TRUMP is their only hope to preserve their grift and perfidy ad infinitum, and keep AMERICANS from interfering in our own governing.

Let’s face it, we’re all imperfect and we’re all going to leave a legacy. As Rush has said, if President Trump wants his legacy to be an American government with less corruption, a prosperous and secure America, and secure elections, that’s fine with me.

^^^^^^^^This. All of it. Well said Becky!!!
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: elwood blues on November 19, 2022, 01:43:49 PM
I agree he is not a dictator, but I think his motivation is Trump, not you and me. We are tools to be used to stroke his ego and if we benefit along the way, that’s ok too.

Of course he is not a dictator.  But if someone doesn't toe the line (his line) they pay the consequences.  Yes, that goes for just about anyone, but it applies to some people more than others.  Trump comes in somewhere behind Putin and Clinton in the regard.



Really?  Maybe you could enlighten me, because I never saw that behavior from President Trump.  In fact, I saw the exact opposite.
I heard, and still hear, the left/MSM/tech/hollywood make up lies and claim he was a dictator, and I watched the gullible believe those lies, but I never saw it, so please enlighten me.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Little Joe on November 19, 2022, 02:38:58 PM


Really?  Maybe you could enlighten me, because I never saw that behavior from President Trump.  In fact, I saw the exact opposite.
I heard, and still hear, the left/MSM/tech/hollywood make up lies and claim he was a dictator, and I watched the gullible believe those lies, but I never saw it, so please enlighten me.
Are you asking me to enlighten you as to why I think he is a dictator?
No, that couldn't be it.  You are smarter than that.

So you must be asking me to enlighten you about him turning on a supporter.  Have you ever heard of Ron DeSantis?

Or Horseface?
Or Little Marco?
The list goes on.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Number7 on November 19, 2022, 07:44:13 PM
Are you asking me to enlighten you as to why I think he is a dictator?
No, that couldn't be it.  You are smarter than that.

So you must be asking me to enlighten you about him turning on a supporter.  Have you ever heard of Ron DeSantis?

Or Horseface?
Or Little Marco?
The list goes on.

Your utter lack of common sense and brutality blind devotion to the narrative is noted.

Thanks.

We already knew that about you.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: nddons on November 22, 2022, 01:20:28 PM
I agree he is not a dictator, but I think his motivation is Trump, not you and me. We are tools to be used to stroke his ego and if we benefit along the way, that’s ok too.
Did Trump do a single thing in his first term where he picked and chose between winners and losers?  Did he make a single decision, signed a single bill, or made a single EO that disadvantaged one group of Americans over another? 

Now contrast that to the current administration.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: nddons on November 22, 2022, 01:55:00 PM
Of course he is not a dictator.  But if someone doesn't toe the line (his line) they pay the consequences.  Yes, that goes for just about anyone, but it applies to some people more than others.  Trump comes in somewhere behind Putin and Clinton in the regard.
I think that is true for any leader.

I was with you until that last sentence, which is just idiotic.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: Little Joe on November 22, 2022, 02:17:54 PM
I think that is true for any leader.
That's why I said:
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Yes, that goes for just about anyone, but it applies to some people more than others.
I was with you until that last sentence, which is just idiotic.
Ok.  Perhaps I should have said:
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Trump comes in somewhere WAY behind Putin and Clinton in the regard.
Title: Re: Clinton style suicide in Russia
Post by: nddons on November 22, 2022, 02:22:02 PM
That's why I said: Ok.  Perhaps I should have said:
Doh!  I responded to Little Joe before I read your response. I’m on Tapatalk and not the PS site.

Great minds run on the same track.