PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on November 19, 2022, 03:26:01 PM
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Unwoke:
“Outlander”
Most of the people in 1745 Scotland are white. By the time they get to America in 1770 there are black slaves and Native Americans, portrayed in demographically accurate proportions. There IS homosexuality, woven into the story organically and accurately for the historic times. One bad guy and one good guy. Homosexuality itself isn’t emphasized or held up as some kind of virtue. It serves the plot, not the other way around.
“Night of the Living Dead” 1968
The main character is a black man. The reason it is a black man is because the actor performed the best in the audition. You can tell he was the best qualified because his performance is outstanding.
“Alien” 1979
Main character is female. There’s no snotty in your face emphasis of female empowerment. It is completely seamless, no big deal made of it.
“My Name is Earl”
Darnell Turner. Seamlessly integrated into the character lineup and the stories. Eddie Steeples is PERFECT in the role, there can be no replacement. Joy and Darnell’s mixed marriage is integral to the story and drives many plot lines.
Woke:
Most contemporary shows and ads chock full of so many diversities you would think only 10% of the U.S. population was Caucasian, no one marries within their race, only half of the population is straight, and females dominate all heroics. That would be fine if all of these actors were the very best qualified for the part, and if the diversity served the plot rather than the other way around. Instead, it is gratuitous virtue signaling at the cost of excellence.
I can’t stand a contemporary show with a female in charge of slaying the monster, but I loved Ripley in “Alien”. Why? Because they didn’t have to make her female. The role was written for a male and Ridley Scott just happened to decide to cast a woman, and Sigourney Weaver was a superb choice. Today, the hero must be female, or black, or Asian, or gay, or some combination thereof; anything but a straight white male.
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Agree. If you do see a straight white male in a show you can be assured it's trans.
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The entire woke culture is steeped in conformity, collectivism at the expense of individualism, weakness and emotion instead of strength and intentionality.
The typical woke adult is a pathetic, asshole, looking for someone to show off to how virtuous their bland, corporate, devotion to whatever bullshit they are told to embrace today.
The fact that woke pussies feel empowered to censor all other opinion shows how intolerant, uneducated, unmannered, and manipulated they are. When a leftist, whiner complains that differing opinions are hate speech, they are broadcasting their utter stupidity and lack of common sense.
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The entire woke culture is steeped in conformity, collectivism at the expense of individualism, weakness and emotion instead of strength and intentionality.
The typical woke adult is a pathetic, asshole, looking for someone to show off to how virtuous their bland, corporate, devotion to whatever bullshit they are told to embrace today.
The fact that woke pussies feel empowered to censor all other opinion shows how intolerant, uneducated, unmannered, and manipulated they are. When a leftist, whiner complains that differing opinions are hate speech, they are broadcasting their utter stupidity and lack of common sense.
They define themselves based on an inborn trait as opposed to something they earned, like productive work.
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One of the first signs was when State Farm replaced white Jake with Black Jake.
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One of the first signs was when State Farm replaced white Jake with Black Jake.
Yes. It’s very jarring. It would be like replacing Ving Rhames’ voice with a white boy’s voice in the Arby’s commercial. “We have the meats!” You just don’t redo icons like that.
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I edited the OP to add “My Name is Earl”, one of the most brilliant shows ever, and here’s one of the best scenes. It even slips in a sentence about fossil fuels without being preachy and woke about it.
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The entire woke culture is steeped in conformity, collectivism at the expense of individualism, weakness and emotion instead of strength and intentionality.
The typical woke adult is a pathetic, asshole, looking for someone to show off to how virtuous their bland, corporate, devotion to whatever bullshit they are told to embrace today.
The fact that woke pussies feel empowered to censor all other opinion shows how intolerant, uneducated, unmannered, and manipulated they are. When a leftist, whiner complains that differing opinions are hate speech, they are broadcasting their utter stupidity and lack of common sense.
^^^^^^This! All of it, again!
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They define themselves based on an inborn trait as opposed to something they earned, like productive work.
Exactly. Hard work and accomplishment means nothing to these people because they've deemed a Meritocracy Racist and Sexist. You can't Empower people. It comes from within. Yes you can help motivate people but you can't make them something they're not.
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note that the Dilbert comic has been removed from many newspapers.
supposedly for "budget reasons"
for example, look at https://amac.us/the-woke-mob-comes-for-comic-strips/
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note that the Dilbert comic has been removed from many newspapers.
supposedly for "budget reasons"
for example, look at https://amac.us/the-woke-mob-comes-for-comic-strips/
As Adams has explained, Dilbert was always meant to be a reflection and critique of office culture. That the comic strip has become more political in recent years is simply an echo of the fact that companies have intentionally infused more politics into the workplace. It wasn’t Adams who got more political, but the HR managers and woke executives who insisted that employees show their fealty to progressive values.
Yes. Terrible. First Educational institutions, then media, and finally the engines of free market economics: private corporations. Progressivism has infected capitalism. To rot and destroy it from within:
In a September 15 YouTube video, Adams announced that he would be taking a “hard run” at ESG, or the practice of companies using non-financial standards (like fighting “climate change” or meeting “diversity quotas”) to make financial decisions. ESG policies have, among other things, led investment banks to divest from fossil fuel companies and invest heavily in “green” energy, despite traditional oil and gas companies continuing to turn healthy profits and renewable energy companies still being highly volatile and risky.
ESG has come under fire from conservatives in recent months for violating shareholders’ interests, as companies which people entrust with their money to create maximum return on investment instead use those funds to advance a left-wing agenda. States like Missouri have withdrawn hundreds of millions of dollars from pension fund managers like BlackRock for investing retirement funds of public employees according to ESG principles rather than to make a profit and thus benefit the government employees.
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https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status/1594836033958461440
THIS. He put it perfectly. The difference between my unwoke examples and all the woke shit.
What's funny is I don't think the average gay dude or lesbian is even a fan of this 'movement' these days...
It's more than overcorrected. Instead of tolerance or even acceptance, it now seeks dominance and submission.
Flags must be planted and heretics must be punished.
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Adams doe snot seem broken hearted about it. He's spoken about it many times on his daily live feed.
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Adams doe snot seem broken hearted about it. He's spoken about it many times on his daily live feed.
I’m sure he has his millions and is comfortable. Doe snot need those 77 papers.
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Can't even watch sports on TV anymore, that shit has gone woke as well. I tolerate it to watch some sports, but don't watch any TV or modern movies as I see nothing that reflects my life in that crap.
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Can't even watch sports on TV anymore, that shit has gone woke as well. I tolerate it to watch some sports, but don't watch any TV or modern movies as I see nothing that reflects my life in that crap.
For the most part if it was made 2018 or later I just skip it. Around 2020 it fell off a cliff. Early 2000s to 2017, maybe will be okay. I mostly search for shows made in the 20th century. Or foreign shows that aren’t yet contaminated with woke nonsense. Make no mistake, it’s not because I dislike a cast that’s all non-white. It’s because the quality of the story sucks, quality is a distant second to the woke mandate. I’ll watch Nigerian shows, 99.99% black. They’re non-woke, and if good, I prefer them to the absolute stinking crap America is putting out.
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Modern sitcoms, where the man or father is always shown as being the bumbling fool or idiot. Where the mother, or even the kids, are smarter than the dad. Fuck that shit.
I want to move back to the times of Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best, or even My Three Sons. The father was respected and was relied upon to help solve the problems and issues. And even back then, the mothers weren't portrayed as wallfowers, more as smart and equal.
Blech.
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An excellent recent movie is "Cry Macho" by Clint Eastwood.
Another recent is "Elvis" with Tom Hanks.
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Modern sitcoms, where the man or father is always shown as being the bumbling fool or idiot. Where the mother, or even the kids, are smarter than the dad. Fuck that shit.
I want to move back to the times of Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best, or even My Three Sons. The father was respected and was relied upon to help solve the problems and issues. And even back then, the mothers weren't portrayed as wallfowers, more as smart and equal.
Blech.
Andy of Mayberry. Even though they had some anti-gun crap, and of course Barney's gun handling was atrocious. As a dad, Andy was great. Firm but fair. A good role model and leader.
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Can't even watch sports on TV anymore, that shit has gone woke as well. I tolerate it to watch some sports, but don't watch any TV or modern movies as I see nothing that reflects my life in that crap.
I quit watching all Pro and most college sports over three years ago.
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Episodes 1 & 2 of Season 3 of The Chosen are in the theater now. First two seasons are on Amazon now.
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note that the Dilbert comic has been removed from many newspapers.
supposedly for "budget reasons"
for example, look at https://amac.us/the-woke-mob-comes-for-comic-strips/
I'm a charter member of AMAC.
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Unwoke:
“Outlander”
Most of the people in 1745 Scotland are white. By the time they get to America in 1770 there are black slaves and Native Americans, portrayed in demographically accurate proportions. There IS homosexuality, woven into the story organically and accurately for the historic times. One bad guy and one good guy. Homosexuality itself isn’t emphasized or held up as some kind of virtue. It serves the plot, not the other way around.
“Night of the Living Dead” 1968
The main character is a black man. The reason it is a black man is because the actor performed the best in the audition. You can tell he was the best qualified because his performance is outstanding.
“Alien” 1979
Main character is female. There’s no snotty in your face emphasis of female empowerment. It is completely seamless, no big deal made of it.
“My Name is Earl”
Darnell Turner. Seamlessly integrated into the character lineup and the stories. Eddie Steeples is PERFECT in the role, there can be no replacement. Joy and Darnell’s mixed marriage is integral to the story and drives many plot lines.
Woke:
Most contemporary shows and ads chock full of so many diversities you would think only 10% of the U.S. population was Caucasian, no one marries within their race, only half of the population is straight, and females dominate all heroics. That would be fine if all of these actors were the very best qualified for the part, and if the diversity served the plot rather than the other way around. Instead, it is gratuitous virtue signaling at the cost of excellence.
I can’t stand a contemporary show with a female in charge of slaying the monster, but I loved Ripley in “Alien”. Why? Because they didn’t have to make her female. The role was written for a male and Ridley Scott just happened to decide to cast a woman, and Sigourney Weaver was a superb choice. Today, the hero must be female, or black, or Asian, or gay, or some combination thereof; anything but a straight white male.
Yesterday I went to Hallmark to get an anniversary card for my bride of 39 years. The number of pictures of couples on the cards with one black and one white person was palpable. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that, but I’m also not going to buy a card like that, because it’s not us.
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Yesterday I went to Hallmark to get an anniversary card for my bride of 39 years. The number of pictures of couples on the cards with one black and one white person was palpable. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that, but I’m also not going to buy a card like that, because it’s not us.
I’ve stated repeatedly on this forum I am PRO inter-racial marriage. Inter-group mating has always been a way to ease hostilities which naturally arise between “tribes”, mixing genes is healthy for the species collectively, and it should hopefully eventually lead to easing of racial tensions as people become more alike in appearance. (I’ve also said it won’t really solve anything because we’ll just find other reasons to hate each other, but nevertheless…)
That doesn’t mean I want it preached at me constantly and shoved down my throat at every turn, by people who think they’re morally superior to me. I watched a show where nearly every couple in it was biracial, not reflecting reality at all, and it was very jarring. You had to try to remember that the snow white dad was the father of the very dark skinned daughter and that there must have been presumably a black mother who died at some point, or the kid was adopted, which would be fine if you’d just come out and say so. You could even weave it into the story line, but no, they just present this stuff as if it’s normal in every town for 90% of parents to have completely mismatched skin tone from their own kids.
It isn’t, and that’s my problem. I think it should be, but it’s not now, and you’re not making a good story about how it should be, you’re just throwing it up there for woke virtue signaling.
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...You could even weave it into the story line, but no, they just present this stuff as if it’s normal in every town for 90% of parents to have completely mismatched skin tone from their own kids.
It isn’t, and that’s my problem. I think it should be, but it’s not now, and you’re not making a good story about how it should be, you’re just throwing it up there for woke virtue signaling.
Think it through... you can't have 90% of parents with mismatched skin tone for long. How many generations would it take to even out the skin tones?
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Disney fired their President and CEO yesterday due to his woke leadership delivering a 41% decrease in stock value in2022.
Going woke didn’t really bring the boom that the little queer was expecting.
On those rare occasions that the TV networks and movie studios produce something worth spending money on, we buy a ticket and vote with out wallet.
When they don’t, which is the vast majority of the time, we also vote with our wallet.
Sight and Soundstudios is coming out with “I Heard The Bells” on December first. That’s their first feature film.
We pre bought tickets for our whole posse to support a worthwhile movie. Those are the fist movie tickets we have bought in nearly 20 years.
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Look, if this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, 94% of people approve of interracial marriage, a huge change from 4% in 1958. That is astounding progress. We've all but eliminated prejudice against it. But you'd think the country was still at 4% to listen to the Democrats. They've taken it as their mission to "educate" us racist troglodytes by hammering the message ad nauseum. They are convinced that all Republicans, conservatives, and non-far left are racists stuck in 1958. Their ads and entertainment are designed to force us to see the light, cram it down our throats.
https://twitter.com/waitbutwhy/status/1595099381082251264
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Look, if this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, 94% of people approve of interracial marriage, a huge change from 4% in 1958. That is astounding progress. We've all but eliminated prejudice against it. But you'd think the country was still at 4% to listen to the Democrats. They've taken it as their mission to "educate" us racist troglodytes by hammering the message ad nauseum. They are convinced that all Republicans, conservatives, and non-far left are racists stuck in 1958. Their ads and entertainment are designed to force us to see the light, cram it down our throats.
https://twitter.com/waitbutwhy/status/1595099381082251264
Correction. Their ads and entertainment are designed to convince the rest of society that Republicans are all racists, whether it’s 1958 or 2022.
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Correction. Their ads and entertainment are designed to convince the rest of society that Republicans are all racists, whether it’s 1958 or 2022.
You are right! They don’t care to enlighten us. They just want to demonize us to justify persecuting us. I would add not just Republicans but anyone not woke. Bill Maher for example. Me, I’m not a Republican.
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Look, if this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, 94% of people approve of interracial marriage, a huge change from 4% in 1958. That is astounding progress. We've all but eliminated prejudice against it. But you'd think the country was still at 4% to listen to the Democrats. They've taken it as their mission to "educate" us racist troglodytes by hammering the message ad nauseum. They are convinced that all Republicans, conservatives, and non-far left are racists stuck in 1958. Their ads and entertainment are designed to force us to see the light, cram it down our throats.
https://twitter.com/waitbutwhy/status/1595099381082251264
The Left LIES to divide us. They use totally false Propaganda to accomplish this and it's worked.
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The Left LIES to divide us. They use totally false Propaganda to accomplish this and it's worked.
They would have you believe 50% of the country still opposes mixed race marriage. If I protest and say I’m for it then they will say I subconsciously oppose it. I protest and say but I have dated a black man. They’d say “You didn’t marry him! You racist!” You can’t fucking win with these people. I’m sure if I’d married him I’d still be a racist somehow, because every white person is congenitally racist, they even teach this in corporate sensitivity training classes.
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They would have you believe 50% of the country still opposes mixed race marriage. If I protest and say I’m for it then they will say I subconsciously oppose it. I protest and say but I have dated a black man. They’d say “You didn’t marry him! You racist!” You can’t fucking win with these people. I’m sure if I’d married him I’d still be a racist somehow, because every white person is congenitally racist, they even teach this in corporate sensitivity training classes.
Exactly. They are totally projecting their own racism, sexism, honophobia, etc. They're dishonest, disgusting hypocrites and not worth the air they breath.
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Exactly. They are totally projecting their own racism, sexism, honophobia, etc. They're dishonest, disgusting hypocrites and not worth the air they breath.
The people at the top driving all of this are white liberals.
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The Left LIES to divide us. They use totally false Propaganda to accomplish this and it's worked.
Divide us, or murder us.
You’ve heard the “If you had a chance to kill Hitler in 1938, would you do it?”
In a leftist’s world, there’s no difference. Literally.
The left is so filled with hate and lack of faith in God that the ends will always justify the means. Look at the prosecutors who don’t prosecute criminals for terrible crimes. The Colorado Springs shooter kidnapped his mom with a bomb. The Waukesha parade killer tan over his girlfriend with a car the previous week. Neither was punished. Now there’s at least 12 deaths from these two previously unpunished men.
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The people at the top driving all of this are white liberals.
Yes, well, they call themselves liberals but they're really control freak elitist, Fascists.
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Exactly. They are totally projecting their own racism, sexism, honophobia, etc. They're dishonest, disgusting hypocrites and not worth the air they breath.
Exactly. They are trying to overcome their own racism by screaming racist etc. at others. I don't know where I heard it... Who needs to constantly proclaim that they aren't racist? The racists.
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Apparently I’m not imagining it. The consensus seems to be the writing sucks and they resort to woke propaganda and the writing sucks. Did I mention the writing sucks? THAT’S the biggest problem.
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/etjvxf/netflixs_woke_views_are_getting_tiresome/
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Apparently I’m not imagining it. The consensus seems to be the writing sucks and they resort to woke propaganda and the writing sucks. Did I mention the writing sucks? THAT’S the biggest problem.
https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/etjvxf/netflixs_woke_views_are_getting_tiresome/
Pretty much lost me here:
“I believe in equal rights, equal pay (cause this is a real issue), I take pride in the fact I live in place where the LGBTQ+ community is celebrated. I believe education should be free and housing and healthcare should be accessible to everyone. More companies and governments need to be held accountable instead of just the bottom line. I already stated this, but to some Americans I probably sound like a socialist commie dictator.”
I’m sick of the xyz “community” being celebrated. When that happens, it’s at the expense of another group that is not celebrated. Take pride month, but Memorial Day. I am so over this LGB crowd and their special needs.
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Pretty much lost me here:
“I believe in equal rights, equal pay (cause this is a real issue), I take pride in the fact I live in place where the LGBTQ+ community is celebrated. I believe education should be free and housing and healthcare should be accessible to everyone. More companies and governments need to be held accountable instead of just the bottom line. I already stated this, but to some Americans I probably sound like a socialist commie dictator.”
I’m sick of the xyz “community” being celebrated. When that happens, it’s at the expense of another group that is not celebrated. Take pride month, but Memorial Day. I am so over this LGB crowd and their special needs.
Agree, but when even the pro LGBT etc socialist commie is sick of woke shows, you know it’s gotten way out of hand.
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The problem with the liberal woke crowd is their shattering hypocrisy on every issue.
Gays are tortured, hanged, imprisoned, tortured and tortured some more in many muslim countries and the phony asshole brigade here screams that we are homophobic when there is zero barriers to queers in our society.
Women are stoned, beaten, made to cover themselves head to toe, forced to live a shadow existence and the feminists march in America because every man doesn’t fall at their ugly, overweight, ungracious, ignorant feet.
The ukraine is a pig sty of corruption and we are forced to pretend it isn’t so because phony liberal assholes demand we care about their issue, even though they haven’t a tinker’s damn of an idea what they are talking about.
Fuck them all.
I refuse to cooperate.
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Can't even watch sports on TV anymore, that shit has gone woke as well. I tolerate it to watch some sports, but don't watch any TV or modern movies as I see nothing that reflects my life in that crap.
I gave up all Pro sports about three years ago when they supportrd and pushed BLM and told me I was Racist. New TV shows and movies largely suck also as they want to push their far left agenda.
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If the LBGTQ community really meant something they would all travel to those countries to protest. ;D
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If the LBGTQ community really meant something they would all travel to those countries to protest. ;D
The U.S. is the most diverse, tolerant, and least racist nation on the planet. The woke mob, especially the young, are so spoiled, naive and ignorant of the world and of history that they fall for the intelligentsia nonsense that America is the worst nation on the planet.
Gay rights, minority rights and women’s rights were all won decades ago. Their real agenda is to consolidate power into the hands of the elite and implement a collectivist economy over the masses.
None of the minority groups will benefit from this other than a few individuals promoted for their skin color, genitals, or fuck partner preference; most will suffer the fate of the rest of the common man: A drastically reduced standard of living.
You can hold up Sam Brinton, Karine Jean-Pierre or Ketanji Brown Jackson all you want but for each of them are millions of black, gay and other minorities who remain in poverty, or who are middle class descending into poverty because of leftist policies on energy and the economy. They don’t want you to notice or care about them.
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The U.S. is the most diverse, tolerant, and least racist nation on the planet. The woke mob, especially the young, are so spoiled, naive and ignorant of the world and of history that they fall for the intelligentsia nonsense that America is the worst nation on the planet.
Gay rights, minority rights and women’s rights were all won decades ago. Their real agenda is to consolidate power into the hands of the elite and implement a collectivist economy over the masses.
None of the minority groups will benefit from this other than a few individuals promoted for their skin color, genitals, or fuck partner preference; most will suffer the fate of the rest of the common man: A drastically reduced standard of living.
You can hold up Sam Brinton, Karine Jean-Pierre or Ketanji Brown Jackson all you want but for each of them are millions of black, gay and other minorities who remain in poverty, or who are middle class descending into poverty because of leftist policies on energy and the economy. They don’t want you to notice or care about them.
I agree with your second paragraph. I draw the line for “special rights” for people who have a mental illness and/or mutilate their bodies with elective surgery, and demand that we all participate in their mental illness.