PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 30, 2022, 12:16:40 PM
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just a matter of time...
https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/the-faa-has-been-infected.140753/
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It totally pisses me off that some people think I would be offended by “Airman”. I never took that word to refer to gender at all. Just like “mankind” includes females. REALLY pisses me off when they change language. I will never forgive them for getting rid of BC and AD.
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...I will never forgive them for getting rid of BC and AD.
huh?
when did that happen?
(I wonder if NASA will be directed to replace the plaques on the LEMs on the moon...)
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huh?
when did that happen?
Started sometime around the 1700s.
I hate to disagree with Rush, but no one has "gotten rid of" BC or AD. CE is synonymous with AD and BCE is synonymous with BC. Either can be used by anyone and be understood. Both are in use. It is just that CE and BCE are in more prevalent use than they had been. One can interpret the C in CE and BCE as either Common or Christian or even Current. Whatever floats your boat.
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Still going as of today! Bunch of repeated BS as usual, everyone having to get their two cents in.
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Started sometime around the 1700s.
I hate to disagree with Rush, but no one has "gotten rid of" BC or AD. CE is synonymous with AD and BCE is synonymous with BC. Either can be used by anyone and be understood. Both are in use. It is just that CE and BCE are in more prevalent use than they had been. One can interpret the C in CE and BCE as either Common or Christian or even Current. Whatever floats your boat.
I never saw BCE and CE until a few years ago and now I never see BC and AD anywhere ever. Whenever I see CE I don’t know WTF they’re talking about and have to think about it for a minute. Same with BCE until I just ignore the stupid “E”. I fucking hate it. It’s got nothing to do with Christianity. It’s that they changed something. I hate change. We will have to disagree. ;D
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apparently it has everything to do with people with a severe adverse fear of Christianity or anything associated with Christianity (real or imagined).
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apparently it has everything to do with people with a severe adverse fear of Christianity or anything associated with Christianity (real or imagined).
Thank you Doctor Freud for that insight.
What can you tell us about women dreaming of bananas?
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Thank you Doctor Freud for that insight.
What can you tell us about women dreaming of bananas?
The Left is anti Christian Jim. They just are, because it's been the dominant belief in the U.S. since the beginning. So wake up to the obvious. They want to tear down the past and what amost people think is "normal".
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If it’s true that people use CE and BCE because they don’t like Christianity, they’re still measuring time from the supposed birth of Christ. (I say supposed because some think Jesus didn’t even exist, or was a compilation of several characters.)
They’re just playing word games. Using “era” instead of “birth” because “birth” implies a person and “era” implies a random point in time. But the random point in time you’re referring to is the birth of Christ you stupid idiot. You’ve changed nothing.
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If it’s true that people use CE and BCE because they don’t like Christianity, they’re still measuring time from the supposed birth of Christ. (I say supposed because some think Jesus didn’t even exist, or was a compilation of several characters.)
They’re just playing word games. Using “era” instead of “birth” because “birth” implies a person and “era” implies a random point in time. But the random point in time you’re referring to is the birth of Christ you stupid idiot. You’ve changed nothing.
But they have, or are at least trying to. Anthony is 100% correct.
In today’s society, except for white men, the only other group for which it is socially acceptable and even encouraged to being marginalized, ridiculed, discriminated and outright hated is Christians.
After all, Christians led the history of western civilization, and that can’t be tolerated. And worse than that, Christian’s generally believe in the right to life for the unborn. No greater sin exists in the liberal or Marxist world. So Christianity or reference to it must be eliminated from the public square or, in this case, history.
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If it’s true that people use CE and BCE because they don’t like Christianity, they’re still measuring time from the supposed birth of Christ. (I say supposed because some think Jesus didn’t even exist, or was a compilation of several characters.)
They’re just playing word games. Using “era” instead of “birth” because “birth” implies a person and “era” implies a random point in time. But the random point in time you’re referring to is the birth of Christ you stupid idiot. You’ve changed nothing.
Certainly seems an odd thing to get hot and bothered about, especially considering that Christians account for ~63% of the population and self-identified atheists account for ~3%.
I sympathize with the feeling of persecution but continue to point out the no one demands you to use CE or BCE. Maybe, just maybe, you are engaging in persecution of people of other faiths for NOT using BC and AD. There are dozens of calendar systems in use (e.g. Chinese) but for global coherence in dating other people have graciously adopted the Gregorian system and a common year 1. Is it too much to ask that you find accommodation in this one thing in the interest of consistent numbering of years?
If you want to see real persecution in action, try acting openly as an atheist in any public capacity. Up until a 1961 AD SCOTUS ruling the following were the law in the respective state constitutions (and are still on the books):
Arkansas
Article 19, section 1: “No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court.”
Maryland
Article 37: “That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.”
Mississippi
Article 14, section 265: “No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this State.”
North Carolina
Article VI, section 8: “The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.”
South Carolina
Article XVII, section 4: “No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution.”
Tennessee
Article IX, section 2: “No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishment, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.”
Texas
Article 1, section 4: “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.”
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/08/there-are-states-where-you-technically-cant-hold-public-office-if-youre-an-atheist/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/08/there-are-states-where-you-technically-cant-hold-public-office-if-youre-an-atheist/)
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Certainly seems an odd thing to get hot and bothered about, especially considering that Christians account for ~63% of the population and self-identified atheists account for ~3%.
I sympathize with the feeling of persecution but continue to point out the no one demands you to use CE or BCE. Maybe, just maybe, you are engaging in persecution of people of other faiths for NOT using BC and AD. There are dozens of calendar systems in use (e.g. Chinese) but for global coherence in dating other people have graciously adopted the Gregorian system and a common year 1. Is it too much to ask that you find accommodation in this one thing in the interest of consistent numbering of years?
If you want to see real persecution in action, try acting openly as an atheist in any public capacity. Up until a 1961 AD SCOTUS ruling the following were the law in the respective state constitutions (and are still on the books):
Arkansas
Article 19, section 1: “No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court.”
Maryland
Article 37: “That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.”
Mississippi
Article 14, section 265: “No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this State.”
North Carolina
Article VI, section 8: “The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.”
South Carolina
Article XVII, section 4: “No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution.”
Tennessee
Article IX, section 2: “No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishment, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.”
Texas
Article 1, section 4: “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.”
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/08/there-are-states-where-you-technically-cant-hold-public-office-if-youre-an-atheist/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/08/there-are-states-where-you-technically-cant-hold-public-office-if-youre-an-atheist/)
First, just to clarify, I wasn’t calling you or anyone else here a stupid idiot. That was the generic “you”.
But you (actual you this time) are completely missing the point. I don’t feel persecuted as a Christian. I do not give two hoots about Christianity or atheism nor do I give two hoots about whether the naming convention has any relation to Christianity or not. I feel persecuted as an old person who can’t learn new tricks! All I’ve heard my whole life is BC and AD for whatever reason, maybe I’ve been culturally isolated in America. Now it’s too late to change. Every time I see BCE and CE it jars the hell out of me. It’s unfamiliar. Stop changing shit and get the fuck off my lawn.
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It's ridiculous change to virtue signal anti Christian, Woke sediments by Leftists. They're the idiots. It is just UNNECESSARY change for optics that complicates our speech and comprehension. It is illogical and tiring.
I'm tired of people making excuses for this crap. Yeah, that's for you Jim.
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We need to change to the REAL measure of time. This is year 13,770,000,000.
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We need to change to the REAL measure of time. This is year 13,770,000,000.
Although I agree with the idea, you have to have a constant.
The fact that the Left bitches about it is just a bonus.
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Although I agree with the idea, you have to have a constant.
The fact that the Left bitches about it is just a bonus.
That’s constant enough for me. Starting January 1, it will be year 13,770,000,001 and we can just go from there.
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We need to change to the REAL measure of time. This is year 13,770,000,000.
As long as we're changing things
10 months of 30 days each. The extra days are holidays.
10 hours in a day
100 minutes in an hour
100 seconds in a minute.
There. All problems are now solved. The current system is just silly.
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Certainly seems an odd thing to get hot and bothered about, especially considering that Christians account for ~63% of the population and self-identified atheists account for ~3%.
I sympathize with the feeling of persecution but continue to point out the no one demands you to use CE or BCE. Maybe, just maybe, you are engaging in persecution of people of other faiths for NOT using BC and AD. There are dozens of calendar systems in use (e.g. Chinese) but for global coherence in dating other people have graciously adopted the Gregorian system and a common year 1. Is it too much to ask that you find accommodation in this one thing in the interest of consistent numbering of years?
If you want to see real persecution in action, try acting openly as an atheist in any public capacity. Up until a 1961 AD SCOTUS ruling the following were the law in the respective state constitutions (and are still on the books):
Arkansas
Article 19, section 1: “No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court.”
Maryland
Article 37: “That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.”
Mississippi
Article 14, section 265: “No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this State.”
North Carolina
Article VI, section 8: “The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.”
South Carolina
Article XVII, section 4: “No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution.”
Tennessee
Article IX, section 2: “No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishment, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.”
Texas
Article 1, section 4: “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.”
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/08/there-are-states-where-you-technically-cant-hold-public-office-if-youre-an-atheist/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/07/08/there-are-states-where-you-technically-cant-hold-public-office-if-youre-an-atheist/)
I like those laws. We should have them in every state, but more specifically to bar Muslims (and possibly Jews) from holding office. Yes, it’s a religious test, but Christianity (which is the religion most able to create human flourishing) is so incompatible with those religions as to disrupt civil and cultural life and turn our country into an unrecognizable mess. Not gonna end well if enough get in, and many of the ones in already have jumped on the widely approved “bash Christianity” wagon. Also, I don’t want atheists holding office. They tend to be libertarian in thinking or Democrats, holding to whatever “principles” they personally (engineer atheists like Jim) or collectively (lemming Democrats) espouse, whether workable (not) or merely virtue-signally (what got us into the current mess.)
Criticize Islam … die
Criticize Judaism … get cancelled and labeled anti-semitic
Criticize Christianity … fine, no harm no foul. Because it’s our best path to human flourishing. Can’t have that.
You want America back? It’s going to have to be Christian.
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It's ridiculous change to virtue signal anti Christian, Woke sediments by Leftists. They're the idiots. It is just UNNECESSARY change for optics that complicates our speech and comprehension. It is illogical and tiring.
I'm tired of people making excuses for this crap. Yeah, that's for you Jim.
The origin and history of the abbreviations do not support your claims. "Common era" was first used by Christians in the 1600s AD (at least the Latin version of that term.) There were no woke leftists back then. I don't think Christianity is so fragile it will fail in the face of a simple notation change to dates.
Anyway, I have a bunch of history books so have come across CE and BCE many years ago. I own a copy of "The History of Mathematics, A Brief Course" by Roger Cooke, copyright 1997 that uses CE and BCE. A footnote in it states "The traditional notations for eras, B.C. (before Christ) and A.D. (anno Domini) are gradually being replaced in scholarly work by B.C.E (before the Christian era) and C.E. (Christian era)." Possibly the first book I came across the notation. So I'm not providing excuses, I'm merely telling you the notation has been in use among historians for a while.
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But they have, or are at least trying to. Anthony is 100% correct.
In today’s society, except for white men, the only other group for which it is socially acceptable and even encouraged to being marginalized, ridiculed, discriminated and outright hated is Christians.
After all, Christians led the history of western civilization, and that can’t be tolerated. And worse than that, Christian’s generally believe in the right to life for the unborn. No greater sin exists in the liberal or Marxist world. So Christianity or reference to it must be eliminated from the public square or, in this case, history.
I think you left out the Asians.
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I think you left out the Asians.
You’re right. With all the videos of old Asian men and women getting cold cocked, sucker punched, or even beaten to death on New York streets by black men, I should have mentioned that it’s now apparently socially acceptable to discriminate against Asians too.