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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 05:00:28 PM »
And looking out for their own neck is why they won't vote impeachment. Imagine the other party members reaction to unseating the president of the US. It would be brutal. Not to mention the biggest good old boy network in the world - the GOP

We are in different times now.  What worked previously isn’t working now.  We have an establishment that is fighting to hold onto power. 

 You can toss conventional wisdom out the window.

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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 03:53:24 PM »
 So we have a republican majority in the house and the senate.

 Yet we can't repeal Obamacare.  And even with several R congressmen and senators that actually campaigned and got elected on a repeal promise, when push came to shove, no repeal.   And the bastard of the senate, one John McCain cast the no ballot.

 So trying to convince me that the Senate has the republican majority and don't worry if they lose a senate seat because it will still be a republican majority doesn't give me much comfort.

 Same goes with a whole host of issues that shouldn't be an issue in a house, a senate and a WH under one party.

 Every senate seat is needed. Every house seat is needed.  Right now the republicans have too many swamp creatures looking out for themselves and to hell with the rest of us.

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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 03:11:10 PM »
Flawed logic. I've said this before, but the balance in the senate would shift from 52-48 to 51-49 and it's not even a full term. To suggest this is some massive shift in the balance of the senate is just wrong.

Roy Moore's spokeswoman from that CNN interview tried to claim that this seat will be the deciding vote in balance of the Supreme Court for the next 30-40 years. Again, flawed logic.

You are seriously misjudging and overlooking the establishment types in the senate as well as the house.

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Spin Zone / Re: The failure of a generation
« on: December 06, 2017, 12:56:36 PM »
Socrates did not write that. This article provides the original source:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehaving-children-in-ancient-times/

It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times.

And once again we find the perfesser writing something blatantly untrue and not a hint of fact checking.


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Spin Zone / Re: Really Mueller?
« on: December 06, 2017, 12:19:16 PM »
If trump gets impeached and removed from office, BFD.  I think the Dems should be more afraid of Mike Pence because he comes across as both strong and reasonable and he destroys anyone the DNC has on tap right now.

 In that scenario if the progressives successfully got a sitting president of the other party removed, what makes you think they would stop there?   Their grievance is that they lost an election they felt was rightfully theirs.  They are also alarmed at how Trump has been systematically unraveling the "legacy" of their beloved BHO.  Also they are alarmed they don't control the Supreme Court and that Trump has been changing the face of the judiciary in the lower courts.

 And Pence would continue in that direction.

 The progressives as well as the establishment are in a fight for power.  Until they get an establishment type back in the WH they will not rest.

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Spin Zone / Re: Really Mueller?
« on: December 06, 2017, 10:29:43 AM »
Hmmm... who's  third in line?

BTW, I don''t know why Trump holds Sessions in such high esteem.  Is it a case of keeping the enemy closer?

 Sessions only befriended Trump in order to get a cabinet position. Sessions is just another swamp dweller, he just decided a different method to get what he wants.

And make no mistake, if they were successful in getting Trump out Pence would quickly follow (out).

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Spin Zone / Re: Really Mueller?
« on: December 06, 2017, 07:58:45 AM »
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454361/peter-strzok-fbi-scandal-partisan-american-bureaucracy




This really needs to be shut down.  I am not understanding why Trump is just standing by, seemingly, doing nothing while the deep state carries forward with this coup.


 Trump is in the exact situation the establishment and the progressives want him in.  If he attempts to shut it down then the battle cry is he is guilty!   Also the mouth foaming progressives will start this "obstruction of justice" crap.

 His AG Sessions conveniently recused himself and left Rosenstein in charge. Rosenstein is tied to Mueller and Comey.  Ryan and McConnell are in the back room just hoping and wishing something will come of this so they can get one of their own in the Oval Office.

 

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Spin Zone / Re: Conyers
« on: December 05, 2017, 04:46:30 PM »
https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-conyers-im-retiring-as-of-today

What the hell? I didn't realize we had hereditary succession in this country. Why isn't there a written procedure for who gets a vacated seat midterm?

Gotta keep the corruption in the family.  Lots of money to be made in congress.

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Spin Zone / Re: Really Mueller?
« on: December 05, 2017, 06:43:19 AM »
There's more talk of obstruction of justice with the firing of Comey, and Trump knowing that he lied to Pence, and possibly the FBI. Nevermind obstruction - I have been wondering about misprision of felony. If Trump became aware of Flynn lying to Pence and the FBI and not only did he not report it to authorities, he actually asked Comey to go easy on Flynn for personal reasons. I'm no lawyer, but Trump had to know that lying to the FBI is against the law.

 What's going on right now is they are trying to find a crime to fit the evidence, and it's not working.

 But more important we are witnessing a coup d'état right before our eyes.  This is a coup of the progressives aided by the establishment to bring down a rightful elected President and his administration.

 When one goes back and looks at the timeline of events, and more importantly the players it becomes very obvious the motives in this fiasco. If there was an actual "Russia Collusion" investigation happening the evidence is there and it involves Clinton, Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein.   But this Special Counsel has nothing to do with Russian Collusion, that was just the excuse Comey used to get his pal Mueller, appointed by their pal Rosenstein (which all 3 are closely tied to the Clintons) to open an investigation which the eventual goal is to bring down the President with a fraudulent impeachment. 

 Ask yourself this:  If the progressives are successful in getting Trump removed does it stop there?   The answer is "of course not", they will not stand for a President Pence so he will have to go as well.   How about Trump's actions in office?  The progressives will declare, and find a way to nullify each and every one because he was illegitimate in their eyes.

 The progressives had convinced themselves after the first election of the Alt Left Progressive Obama that they had finally achieved their dream of a march towards a totalitarian government in the country. When he was reelected that just strengthened their belief and they bought into the propaganda that Hillary had already won the election the day she announced.   The election of 2016 sent shock waves through the progressives which they feel the election was "stolen" from them, and now they are seeing eight years of Trump will unravel everything they have worked for.

 Finally, I'm convinced at the end of the day those who still feel our constitution matters and is the law of the land will prevail and this whole matter will come to an end.  But the progressives will use it for their battle cry at every election.

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Spin Zone / Re: Really Mueller?
« on: December 04, 2017, 07:23:34 PM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/muellers-credibility-problem-1512432318


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ll of this reinforces our doubts about Mr. Mueller’s ability to conduct a fair and credible probe of the FBI’s considerable part in the Russia-Trump drama. Mr. Mueller ran the bureau for 12 years and is fast friends with Mr. Comey, whose firing by Mr. Trump triggered his appointment as special counsel. The reluctance to cooperate with a congressional inquiry compounds doubts related to this clear conflict of interest

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Spin Zone / Re: The failure of a generation
« on: December 04, 2017, 01:21:43 PM »
CAn we get back to discussing the failure of a generation?

please

Open discussion board.

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It is sad that the only network that gets aired internationally is an America Hating network.  I guess they world thinks we hate ourselves.  They are more than happy to go along with that, mostly out of petty jealousy.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/acosta-journalists-attacked-journalists-resist/

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CNN senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta on Monday continued to vocally criticize President Donald Trump and his attacks on the media.

During the inaugural Poynter Journalism Ethics Summit, which is "intended to focus on strengthening political reporting and increasing trust in the media," Acosta commented on his behavior while reporting, behavior that has been criticized by some of his own CNN colleagues.

Acosta seemed to speak for all reporters, saying they are not part of the "resistance," but added, "When journalists are attacked, journalists have to resist."

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